September 7, 2025 • 51 mins
In this episode, we sit down with content creator Just Laying Down to explore the balance between fatherhood and content creation. He opens up about the challenges and rewards of juggling family life while staying committed to his creative grind. We also dive into his lifelong love for wrestling, how it fuels his passion for storytelling, and the lessons he’s carried from his humble beginnings into the world of content. A conversation full of authenticity, drive, and heart.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, we are back with
another episode of the New World podcast. It is your
host with the Smoke Game. I got my co host
D and we got a special guest fresh off for
Instagram post. I actually seen him, I think a couple
of minutes ago, now too long ago. He was giving
a rundown on what to expecting that on the next
see we got my boy just laying down jail D.
(00:20):
Thank you so much, Thank you for your time, thank
you for your time, and thank you for you know,
blessing us with your presence. As you guys know, we
did Tim rivera last episode. So if you guys are
paying attention to the episodes, I'm trying to knock out
all the content creators, so all the heavy hitters on Instagram,
the people that you see every day every week, because
consistency is definitely consistency.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sound too, sorry to interject. I have the sound. I
just forgot which like button to go Excel Audio mixers,
I forgot which one. I think it's this one.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hey, yeah, your finger, keep your finger on that butt
as we go.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I love you because at the beginning, before the setup,
I was like, did he is there a sound board there,
like you actually don't touch them, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like, yeah, that's funny, jail D, Like I said, thank
you for your time and patience, thank you for showing up.
So I've just started following you, Like maybe yeah he
got that on his solid day, right, but.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm following.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We found we found each other through the through the internet,
through Instagram, because one thing I've noticed is with the
internet wrestling community, I feel like on Instagram and particularly
it's very small, Like it's the world is big, the
Instagram world is big, but the wrestling community is very
small because all it takes is one retweet, Like I don't.
I don't want to say I don't, but I'm a
(01:49):
big numbers guy when it comes to content. You know,
if if I post something and it will reach one
hundred views, and like this ship is do something. No, Yeah,
it's a bad habit of mine. I've always I've always
been that way. But you'd be surprised who's watching who's
out there? I forgot the gentleman's name. He actually watched
my clip with Tim. I forgot his name. He works
(02:11):
for WW. He doesn't work for WW, but he worked
with them. He's a I forgot his name. His name
is Adrian Okay, forgot his name. But long story short,
content creation and wrestling, especially in New York is very
small at that time. It's a JLD. I seen he was,
he was dope. He's you know, he's doing all the
right things the content creators should do, staying consistent. You know,
(02:31):
he's a fan of the product. There's difference between being
a fan and just reading what the dirt heats tell
you and then putting it on Twitter, which you know, Instagram,
which is a whole different spiel. But yeah, again, JLD,
welcome to the New World Podcast. You are the brand
new member of the South Sidners. But I have a
question for you. So what what? Uh? What's the word
(02:52):
proper way to word this? You have such a passion
for the product, for wrestling, not just ww but wrestling
in general. What sparked that passion and what made you
want to create content?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So my dad is actually a big wrestling fan. That's
how I got into it. I was twelve years old
when I was like watching it full time. RUF was
s Aggression era, John Cena, Batista, Triple HS, Sean Michaels,
those of my heavy hitters, at the time when I
first started watching, and obviously in between there's probably like
a year or two breaks. You know, there's just you know,
becoming a teenager doing other things and then becoming an adult.
(03:27):
Like there were just some gaps in between, But just
overall been a huge wrestling fan since, and honestly, it's
just something I've just loved to watch week after week
after weekend. It's something that also my dad and I
would bond over a lot. We would always talk about it.
Always watch it on Mondays, watch it on Fridays or
Thursdays whenever SmackDown was on. But yeah, that's how I
pretty much got into it. And then in terms of
(03:48):
wrestling content, I actually started making wrestling content in twenty
twenty one, but I started off doing just Twitch streams
and just I wanted to be a Fortnite streamer. I
wanted to be the call of guy. But you know,
it's very diluted. There's a there's a lot of people
trying to do the same thing. And after a year
of doing that, I made one TikTok of me, you
(04:11):
know the memes where it's like, oh, you got the
job at WW Gotta match Randy yort next week, that's
something like that. I made a video similar to that,
but it was the Undertaker. I was like, I was
at the office, They're like, congrats, you got the job.
The scene turns into me. It's smacked down about to
fight the Undertaker. Silly thing, but it went viral. It
was my first ever wrestling video went viral. Make a
(04:32):
Royal Rumble video right after that Royal Rumble season goes
viral again. I'm like, I gotta do this. That's just
the rest is history, and four years later, here we are.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You send me a video because I got you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's fine, bro, Like I was saying, all it takes.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is it just takes one. You can have all the hitting.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The silliest right. It could be the silliest things, bro,
it could be the dumbest thing. How many views did
that video get? That first video you posted or take ballpark.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Around in the beginning, like twenty thousand, and to me
that was a lot because usually I was like in
the four or five hundred view or most of the time,
it'll be rare if I got a thousand, So they
get twenty thousand, I was like, whoa, Like I'm onto something,
and then the next one was a Royal Rumble video
where you got the job, but you're number one in
(05:23):
the rumble. Number two ended up being brock Lessner. So
like I put the music of Lester and everything, you
could see it in my pin tiktoks. It's like, I think,
at one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand, some shit.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Fure so, so who would film these things for you?
Or how did you, you know, get this process going?
Because I think some people want to be content creators
and they want to do it, but they're just not
sure if they can do it or how to do it,
or if they need a team or what's your process.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I do everything myself. My fiance does help out a
lot with filming sometimes if like I need her help
with like her iPhone or whatever, but usually a lot
of times it is with just me myself and I
have my tripod behind me. I use played around with
that for a while when I was doing my early tiktoks.
I have a green screen that I would use and
I would actually edit on my actual computer. But I've
(06:14):
tried to move more towards like TikTok specifically on my
phone because it's just so much time, like having an
edit on the computer, then move it to a phone,
then post it from there. While TikTok and cap Cua
have their own editors, so it just makes it a
little easier in terms of time. But you don't need
a team. You just need a phone and just need
to start. There's no formula of like, oh you need
(06:35):
to like stand in this corner or do this screen screen,
just pick up. There's so many content careers out there
that are so talented that all they're doing is just
like the green screen filter, or like just talking in
front of their phone talking about what's going on, or
make a funny skip. That's all you need. It's all
about the character. You could have all the nice tech,
but the character got to be there and the passion
(06:57):
for it. You can't be a wrestling creator. But like
kind of like how you mentioned just trying to read
the current news and just post a body, you gotta
be invested in it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, that's true. Now you do. And like like you
were saying, Day was saying, like there was a lot
of people afraid to pick that camera because you know,
there's usually that stigma that like, oh it looks corny
that you're recording yourself. But it's like, bro, there's motherfuckers making
really bro Like I'm trying to get billions of dollars too.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
They say that, but then they watching people on Kick
and Twitch like I Show Speed and Logan Paul walking
around all parts of the world doing the same thing.
But so like I, I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I had to kind of conquer that fear a little
bit myself being comfortable like going to Comic Con or
going a fanatics fest, holding my own recording and all that.
(07:51):
But so have to realize people don't care and do
and then when they realize what you're doing is working,
they're gonna be like, oh, I'm trying to be like
Dale Day. I'm trying to be like Dave. I'm trying
to like you know, they'll see the confidence in what
you do and they're gonna want to mimic, even if
it seems silly or corny, like you holding the phone
or selfie stick or whatever. Like when they see the
(08:12):
money coming in, they're gonna be like, all right, I'll
do it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And it's funny because I actually did and excess this year.
It was my first year doing it. I don't even
think I was gonna get it. I just checked my
email that was dope shoot and I had to you know,
get my ducks in order. I had to get my
camera to order new three. So funny story about fanatic stress.
So I went. I had all three days. I didn't
go the third day because I was like, nobody, who's it?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
One day? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, and then it's like nothing really changes. I thought
everything changed like the day like second day or whatever.
It's just the people that changed. So the first day
I get there, I have my setup Dave knows, I
have my little hand, then have my phone, then I
put my DJ on my little light, and then I
have the little microphone like I have a nice little
broke man set up, shout out to DJ I with
the with Action three, and then talking to the boy
(09:00):
that I met down there, my boy g from Brad Rustling,
who we just totally met on a win bro like
if I always say, I always say to him like, yo, bro,
it was God brought you to meet me that day.
Because I was out there like yo, what do I do?
Like where do I start? And then he was like, yo,
I'm not not filming with nobody today you're not filming today,
he was, Yo, let's just ride with each other. So
(09:21):
boom we booked that connection. I ended up losing my
DJI that day, and I was pissed bro losing ship.
I don't like losing anything, So I lost that boom.
That was the first day. Second day I go back,
I'm like, yo, I'm gonna spend the majority of my
time at the w w E part of Fanatics Fast.
My fucking book ends up breaking.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I went to the Travis Scotts stand and I got
like a so I'm carrying around my book. It was
just like Murphy's Walk kicking that day, like that weekend,
because like anything that could have went ring. The only
thing that was perfect was that I found parking, Like, besides.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That brow the other day, that's an accomplishment for.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Sure. I was not trying to do. I did one
loop around that was like, not no parking, I'm paying
for it. Yeah, that hurt my heart. But that express
was a dope ass experience because it was only the
second one, and I can't wait for the next one
because next one I want to bring my boys with me.
Feel I feel like David O d Love. And then
the Boys, Dennison and Money.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Were you there, jail d.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
This was my second time going this year. Yeah, I
went to the first one last year, but I only
did Sunday because just scheduling just didn't work to go
the other days. And I wish I would have gone
probably Saturday the first time, because Sunday is usually shorter anyway.
But the main reason I went Sunday also, not just
was because the scheduling, was because Rio Ripley was there,
(10:43):
so I agree with her. So you already know is
always on top. Mommy's always on top.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm not missing this.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But it was a fun time. I was very surprised
with fanatics. I was very surprised that Fanatics did their
thing the first time, so I was like, let's go
the second time. And it was a good time.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I didn't know it was going to be that much
like hard sellers. I thought it was going to be
more meet and greets, more like open forums discussions. It was,
you know, like one thing that they I've noticed about
that fanatics fast. They kind of take people from different
worlds and then they bring them together, like they had
Jacob i To and Tiffany Stratton working with a magician
(11:24):
he's like a stage magician like that for like for
like mental health, and I'm like, this is a lot.
It's a lot going on right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's
and and you know it's it was a dope experience.
It was definitely dope. You see Logan Paul, somebody actually
trashed his expensive mass Pokemon card. But I don't know
why he would bring.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I saw the news on that, like somebody Ryan and
Jozach and stupid and pushed it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And the cards, like I think, if I'm not mistaken,
don't judge me. But it's definitely more than a million
dollar card, like.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
For sure it is.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That is it's been praised its stringer card.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeo, so so Gabe recently actually speaking of cards, just
got into cards a lot, JAYU You into cards?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm not too much into like are you referring to
WW like tops chrome or you just general anything cards?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Because I feel like, you know, that shit was a
big deal. I don't know how old are you. I'm
thirty two, okay, so we're all the same age. But
like growing up, it was like yo, if you had
that baseball rookie card or whatever, you know, like Babe,
roots whatever, right, that would be insane. And I think
from like twenty and so on, no one really gave
a fuck about cards. But now it's like really back
(12:36):
heavy makes a.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Bunch of adults that finally have adult money that loved
cards as a kid. So to answer your question, I
was a big Yu gi Oh card fan. I still
have my cards to this day. They are right above me.
They are in binders, they are in box I refuse
to give them up. Pokemon cards, I have them too,
I still have them, but I wasn't as big into
them like that. Now, if I wouldn't know own that
(13:00):
base set packs would have been what they are today,
I would not have opened them as a child. But
it's just insane, like exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But the thing about Pokemon, Pikachu, Pokemon will never die
because Pikachu, you could be a racist. Pikachu can't be sexist.
Pikachu can't say the N word. Pikachu can't get canceled.
That's why Pokemon is forever.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Says one word Pikachu.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, he's like broke, He's just that's what it is like.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like even if Ash says some well ship they were
just like, we'll take Ash out like if you could.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Just Pikachu's Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, it took it took Ash like eighteen years to
win the World Championship, Like I seen it on Twitter
the other day, but bro, it literally showed every time
that Ash entered the championship in what place he ranked?
Bro dead asked his last championship he finally won and
the battle I was looking at the battle of you.
I got to see the battle because who the fuck
is gonna be? Like what was ol feeding? Bro? It
(14:02):
was Pikachu versus chars on.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I was like, no, that's a full circle moment though.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I was like, bro, what what do you mean Pikachu's
about it? What chars are? Like this? Like never what? Now?
He could he could? You know, Pikachu see the thing
about Pikachu? He did, So I feel like Pokemon and
like dragon ball z are like one in one is
like you see how like when Pikachu, Pikachu could hit
you with the thunderbowl, but then like you know, when
(14:29):
it's not working, and then I just gotta give him
that little that talk and then he like haulks up
like Pikachu halks up.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then he's a motivational coach that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But Jay, I was looking at your Instagram before we
got on the thing to get with the pokemon. So
you did. You did one hundred thousand views in a month,
which is that's no easy feat at all. I don't
care who you are. How did you do it? Or
maybe why and how? I don't know which way you
want to answer that question, but like, what made you like, yo,
(14:59):
I need to get? Is that a number that you
were looking for? I need the hundred thousand?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Are you in terms of just like Instagram stats or like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Instagram stats? So that was so I basically made an
experiment over the past like thirty days. It's been past
those thirty days, but like I made an experiment to
post one to three times a day for thirty days
straight as somebody who wasn't consistent with my videos, just
(15:27):
to see what the behavior of my account would be
if I just went non stop posting, And it made
several of those videos that you see on my Instagram
go viral. Several of them include the one where I
talk about VPN with the ESPN announcement. One of them
was I went to the House of Glory SummerSlam weekend,
and I happened to get a clip of Zilifa to
(15:48):
getting defeated by Bully Ray for his title that somehow
went far. And then just a bunch of other videos
talking about just wrestling general stuff. Some of them blop,
but some of them went very far, and some of
them are videos that I don't even think I put
as much effort into. It kind of goes back to
what you said, It's like the silliest things get the
most views, and then the ones I work the most
(16:10):
hardest on are the ones that are just like get
regular generic views. So that's pretty much it. I feel
like I didn't really have like a method to do it.
It was more just like try to report on everything
and see what sticks and how I do it. One
of the things that I've decided to be more consistent
(16:30):
on is where I film my videos, which I don't
know if you see like my most like ten most
recent videos all in the same spot. I feel like
that could also help out with just like the consistency
of people saying, Okay, jail these here, like let's watch
what you got to say, versus like one video I'll
be standing by my ring light and then one video
I'm in the living room and then what I'm laying
(16:50):
down in the bedroom. Like I feel like that randomizes
things and it doesn't catch attention because people remember familiarity.
If I'm saying that correct words a hard sometimes they
remember based on where I'm standing. You know, Keith Lee,
He's always in his car and stuff like that. That's
what kind of go based off.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Of, especially like a catchphrases. I noticed like a couple
of cat content creators that usually some of them could
catch phrases or like they'll they'll start their video a
certain way, like every video starts a certain way. But that's,
like I said, one hundred thousand, that's that's a pretty
big number. That's that's a good number to start. Like
even like, you know, back to the talk that we
were having about me looking at videos and their views
(17:31):
and being impressed, like I think right now for this month,
because Instagram gives you those summaries of like how many
followers you yeah, yeah, my thing and up from at
the beginning of I want to say, July had like
thirty thousand of you. And what motivated me was, you know,
I was I'm trying to get my foot into these events,
these wrestling events all over the world, but preferably the
(17:55):
ones in New York. Man, Bro, I'm I'm writing people.
I'm like email people, I'm like texting people like, yo, bro, like,
what's up? I work media? Can I work? You know?
I do this, I do that podcast. I can make content.
And people with dead ass like we were just responding,
leaving me on rand and fit like lit a fire
(18:15):
under mind. Then that whole month of July and August,
I'm just like, yo, fuck it, bring back the podcast.
We're gonna do this shit. We're gonna kick it up
a notch. We're gonna do watch parties, We're gonna we're
gonna do merch like I want to do it all.
Like I said, I just want to do it all.
I want. I want to take the World Podcast to
brand new heights. I need people in Australia to see
this when we go over there. It's love wherever we go.
(18:36):
I need it that way. But that's that's what pretty
much motivated me. You know, those those numbers, they they
could all be worked and fixed, so but I just
you know, I'm trying to get the name out there,
and how do we get the name out there by
interviewing more people like yourself, more content creators, people that
love wrestling, because, like we were saying before we went live,
the wrestling community, it's such a niche community. It's a
(18:57):
small community. Like there was a point in time, like
back in the day when I was in high school,
Like you couldn't really tell people you watch wrestling.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They make fun of you, be like, why are you
watching grown men like that are sweating wrestling? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, it's like shut up, you love you watch Love Island?
You watch?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, they watching Love Island. I love ninety Fiance, but like,
don't watch and act like they have a statement?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Did your fiance actually put you onto that show? Because
my wife I.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Know I'm actually the one. I'm actually the one.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I like the one.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It came up on t LC one day and I
never looked back.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, would you say that's like your guilty pleasure kind of?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I would say so. Yeah, Like I just used a
few clips on YouTube. I got a you'll get a.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I feel like JLD just like he gets on his
couch with a little blanket, a nice cup of coffee,
the lights brand new season of ninety Bro. That show
is hilarious. I don't know if you've ever seen it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Days a good time, some of them wild, some of
them couples be wild.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I've never seen it. I've only seen like clips of it,
Like that's where the guy, I don't be rude or anything,
but that's where the guy where he was. He's got
like short like I guess Italian guy and short with lady.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, So I've seen that on Twitter and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That is but right, people be like, oh, wrestling is fake,
but then you watch.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That, it's reality show. It's they double take those segments
they do, those are usually rehearsed or so that way, like, sure, you're.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Getting worked by somebody that just went and flew to
another country to fall along. That's work.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, that's funny, Jake.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
How do you balance your your long form content and
your short form content, Like what do you decide what
goes on Instagram, what goes on YouTube? Or do you
keep everything uniform and everything goes on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'll speak on when I was consistent with long form,
because I've been slacking terribly on long form. I've been
strictly short form right now for like the past two months.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, that's working for you, So that makes sense, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, But I honestly, when it came to long form,
if I thought of an idea, I'd just do it,
and then if I can convert that into short form clips,
then great, But there's not really a method to like
how I balanced them out is just if I have
an idea, I just do it, and then same for
short form. If I have a TikTok I'm thinking of,
I'll make it and then it's I say, the harder
(21:32):
part is managing when I do them, because long form
editing takes much much longer than just going on my
phone and editing a TikTok womblaying in bed for like
ten minutes versus like it'll take like a good hour
or two depending on how long the video is. Like
for my podcast episodes, they take like two days because
like I would do it for like maybe two hours
straight of editing and then I gotta do something else
(21:54):
just to get my mind away from it, and then
come back the next day and it's done. Con went
just time away too, from like life, So I don't
want to be glued here twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Now, of course, yeah, there you'd be surprised, man, the
things I see on TikTok. There's people that that's all
they do. Bro is a live stream watch. They pretty
much watch watch alongs on Twitch every single day because
there's wrestling on every single day. Think about it, there's
AWTN a WW And Now, what do you think are
(22:26):
your biggest challenges as a as a content creator and
trying to grow? Like, what what do you think can
can help you grow further? Because you're you're you're doing
you're doing great. The looks of things you're doing really great,
but what could take you to that next level?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Time? Really? I am. I work, so I work full time.
I work eight to five Monday through Fridays. I work
from home thankfully, so that has been one of the
biggest blessings because it allows me to also make content
during the day. Otherwise, if I was like going in
for work, I would not have the opportunity, and the
amount of times you see me post online would probably
(23:03):
be cutting half. And then I have a six month
old son now, so a lot of my time is
to him, so usually I got to make sure like
he's all good, the misses is all good, work is
all good before I can even do any of the
videos you see online. And then sometimes I'm going to
my parents' house, Grandma and grandpa, you know, first time grandparents.
(23:24):
They want to see their kid all the time, their
grandkid all the time, so you know, stuff like that.
So just time, really, like if I had all the
infinite time in the world, I'd be on my computer
twenty four hours making videos NonStop. And you see a
lot of creators do that, and like props to them.
They got teams, they got editors and stuff. They could
(23:44):
push all that out. I can't do that, and that's
not a bad thing. I'm blessed with what I got.
I'm trying not to be like, oh I wish I
had that. I'm blessed with what I have. Now, just
keep consistent with what I'm doing. But time would probably
be the answer to that, because life fakes over and
there's nothing wrong with that. But you know, you gotta
(24:05):
have a life more than just your content gotta have
you got to enjoy your life outside of that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So your same time is kind of the the obstacle.
But what is so, So what would you say is
the goal like in your eyes, like what would be
that that goal where you can sit back on some
on some thanos like now you know, now I can rest.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I mean, it would be nice if I could make
full time living off of this, but I know that
consistency is usually how that works. And when I say consistency,
I know I'm consistent usually with Instagram and TikTok. But
I would want to expand to doing long form even
more on YouTube. I would want to be able to
hire an editor. I would want to be able to
record even more. I would want to be able to
(24:46):
vlog a little bit more, maybe go to more wrestling shows,
like I'd want to maybe flatter Survivor series in San Diego.
I would have loved to go to Forbid Indoor in London,
but you know, can't, can't right now?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So like that, Okay, that's cool. That's don't think you
that you're a brand new deck. I'm also a brand
new thank you. It's dad. Hood is the best hood
and the only hood you want to be in. Man
for really changes it changes your outlook on a lot,
bro Like, you know, there's a lot of Yeah, it's
a lot of sacrifice. It's a lot of sacrifice. One
(25:21):
of my buddies, Manny Manny's content. He's a wrestling content
perguor he's about to become a dad. And you know
I told him. I was like, Bro, there's gonna be
a lot of sacrifices. There's gonna be shows that you
can't go to. Like, Bro, it's funny, Like right now,
my biggest problem is, like I love doing ring side work,
like I love recording wrestlings ring Zone, and every single
(25:42):
day on my Instagram feed, there's a brand new wrestling
show that somebody's gonna have. It can be in Jersey,
in Jersey, and I look at the date.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So I was nice, low kid.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Jerseys fire. I like this. And I look at my
work calendar because hey yo, hit that button, hit that.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Hey yoo, you freaking But I checked my work calendar,
and Bro, I literally work every single time there's a
wrestling show.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So when there's not a weekend that I work and
there is a wrestling show, Bro, I'm all in. I'm invested,
like and it's just it's a balance, Bro, And it
sucks because, like you said, I wish I could be
going to San Diego to go see Someboder series. Wish
I could go to a w when they you know, like,
but it's it's it's hard, bro. Like and I was
telling you, like trying to get wrestlers on the podcast,
(26:33):
like trying to you know, I've had people leave me
on Red for days and then respond to me and
it's like, Yo, what's up? Like what you mean? What's up?
You just have you all fucking read for a year?
Like how don't we want an interview? No more? But
it'd be like that that's the that's the way of
the beast, bro. And you know, when it comes to
content creating, a lot of people don't understand, like a
lot of us don't really get paid for this, Like I.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Can't get paid, Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, even
the biggest creators. They've been very vocal like yo, I
don't make a million dollars. I'm not making full full
time money where I could buy a house, Like this
is like a side gig for a lot of people.
And it's just like there's many ways to monetize if
you know how to monetize yourself in every way and
aspect possible, But a lot of times you just got
(27:17):
to take what you can get. Unless you're making sancis
app money, then you're you're talking full time, but it
takes a lot of effort to get to that level too,
not just like an easy win.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You're you're speaking, Uh it seems like with some knowledge.
So what there's maybe some bit some good ways, some
tips for people to monetize their thing. Like I saw
you got like some package for a minute, mate, that
was tough. That bucket Is that that bucket in the back? Yes, yeah, yeah,
that was tough. Hey, Like one bucket is cool, but
(27:49):
flip it inside that was two buckets, Like that's that
was fire.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because the bucket had here and then flips into the
other thing. There's actually this one too, the rest of
the two thousand No, no, no, this is it's just romans.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I was like, gave you that it would be crazy,
I wouldnt made right now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
So Jay walk us through that, Like how did what?
What went through the thought process of like, Yo, I'm
gonna do this minute made video. It's either gonna slap
or it's not gonna slap. Like what was the correlation
were you went tosspo with your fiance and you were like, yo,
Jay us is on the bottle, let's buy a sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So I'll answer the minute made part and then I'll
answer the other question about just like knowing about like
monetization and stuff. So for the Minute made, you know,
it's in every freaking Sea town, associated Fine Fair, Walmart
you can think of. So I decided to just so
I just yeah exactly. So I end up just posting
(28:51):
a video with the jay USO one like, and then
Minute Made reached down was like, can we put this
on our page whatever? I said, sure, so you can
find it there, and then they they just ms, yeah yeah,
and then they said, hey, uh, give me your address.
We'll just send you a box, like we're just gonna
send you a gift. Now, this was like a month
(29:11):
ago or two months ago they sent They asked me
to give them my address, so they sent it two
months later. But one thing that I've learned with that,
like posting in general. I guess one of the inspirations
is Alan owns. He posts literally everything like he go,
He's going to the mall. They sixteen of getting wrestling merch,
go with me to the superstore, goal with me here,
(29:32):
go with me there. I got this. I got that.
So That's what I've kind of inspired myself to do.
If I get like a wrestling thing. I'm gonna show
it to social media. I got the carrying cross shirt
that I got the other day, showed it. That was tough,
so I was the same women it made and I
was like, let's unbox it. I'm sure people are gonna
love it, and and it may loved it. They posted
on this story and a lot of people enjoyed it,
(29:53):
so there wasn't really too much to it. They just
reached out and I just gave my address and sent
a nice gift. I said thank you, and then get
a video on it. And then for monetization, just whatever
platform you're on, see what the requirements are. TikTok for example,
create a program. If you can get there, do it.
(30:14):
And before even getting to monetization, just be patient because
you places like YouTube and TikTok aren't going to pay
just anybody. They want to make sure who they're paying
is actually committed to whatever they're doing. So like YouTube
partner for example, that took a long ass time, but
I finally got it through one viral video with TikTok.
(30:37):
I think it's like ten thousand followers and like a
certain amount of views, and then you get paid on
minute long videos. Facebook's I think the only one I'm
not monetized on. They have ridiculous requirements anyway. Instagram, I
think it's like five thousand or like ten thousand something
like that, and then you can get paid on pictures
or carosels and threads. I think you can get monetized too,
(30:58):
but I'm not on there, and then on Twitter I'm not.
But if you pay for like the blue check mark,
I think there's stuff you can do not to sure,
but monetizing yourself everywhere, if you is the way to
maximize how much you make on your content. Because when
I post a you, like when I post a TikTok,
I'm trying to also get monetized, not just there, but
(31:19):
also on YouTube shorts because it's basically the same video
but two different places. Just trying to try it. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So yeah, in terms of monetization, But even though I
say all this, if you're looking to get into content,
money is not the only thing you should be paying
attention to. Sure, we all want to make money, but
(31:40):
don't do it for that otherwise you're gonna have a
very bad time.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's definitely. Yeah, I feel like it's like you said,
It's definitely not about the money for me. This is
more like I just love wrestling. Yeah, I love wrestling.
I would do this. I mean I'm doing it for
free right now anyway. But like, I just love wrestling.
My friends love wrestling. I feel like it's cool that
all my friends are marks because if like, if one
(32:05):
of my friends wasn't a mark, this guy's a Mark.
This guy has like seven WrestleMania chairs. This guy is
a Mark.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
But like I couldn't, I couldn't imagine myself having friends
that weren't wrestling fans, Like, Yo, let's go to this
wrestling show and nobody wants to go. Like, Bro, we
go to h O G we be squatted, It'd be
Leady Danny myself by that, and that shit is dope
to me. Bro, Like that ship is really cool. Is
(32:36):
there any content creators uh jild that you that you
like or that you look up to or you would
like to work with in any way?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Honestly, I try to work with whoever I can. If
somebody reaches out, if I can, and if it makes
sense in terms of like just uh making something that
is worthwhile, then I will do it. If I had
to pick people that I'd love to collab with, probably
probably the main ones, like you know, Alan Owans like
I like, we follow each other, but we've never really
(33:09):
like interacted. I'd love to do something with him, Uh,
you know, Santy maybe one day if we get to
that that super high status con man and Noweezy, all
of them will be cool if they see this. This
is this is me shooting my shot.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
We're gonna we're gonna tag them in the in the
clip we post this. Nah, yeah, that's dope. And so
and again when I when I told you about you know,
trying to get all these oh look at that cat.
That is a weird looking cat. Trying to get all
these content creators, especially specifically the ones from New York.
What how does being from New York? I would say
(33:53):
help influence the content that you make because if you
if you notice, because you're from New York, look at
all the wrestling content creation is from New York. But
like there's just a certain aura and like a certain swagger.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's because we say we're from New York. That that alone,
that alone is like okay, he's from New York. Like
they're interesting, they're from New York.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Bro with the mecca New York. Like I said, the
last Bro, New York is dead ass, the mecca of everything. Bro,
Like we we make the world spin. Bro, look at it.
Hip hop was made here, right and then what's it
the rhythm of hip hop? Graffiti? Graffiti is art. There's
graffiti all over the world, bro, like our food, our money,
Like it's just come on, would you rather? Would you rather?
(34:38):
I'd rather be a guy from all right? Would you
rather talk to a guy from New York or a
guy from Tulsa, Oklahoma? What the hell are they doing
over there?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oklahoma's not even real.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I'm not saying, dude from Oklahoma today? Actually, you know funny,
that's funny.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Like what are they doing in Oklahoma? One hurricane? They're
done off the map? Like New York is the bloat?
Like but like how you headed that? Because, like I said,
a lot of these wrestling shows they come through New York.
All these events come through New York. Fan that excess
New York.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
We are such privileged people to be from New York because,
like I said, back to the Meca thing, but this
is where wrestlers want to wrestle at. Nobody like every.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
That's it. Everybody wants to play for the Knicks. Everybody
wants to be a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So like I try, I try to like like living
in New York my whole life, like you kind of
see it as a status symbol, whether it's on social
media or whatever, like being like, hey, we're from New York.
The only way I really say, I would that it
carries into my content would be the way I speak,
because I've had like several comments where people caught my
(35:46):
accent of a New York accent, especially when I say
summer Slam, so like they catch that. I'm always I like,
my signature is always wearing a backwards hat. That's just
like my goal to so a lot of time too.
You like a Yankees hat like I'm wearing now, but
it's a black one like Tiffany blue green one. Nice whatever,
But try to represent as much as possible, but being
(36:08):
subtle about it because I don't want that to be
my whole personality.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
From New York.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I'm walking here exactly. Even my Twitch friends before I
got into wrestling, like that's all they say like whenever
they talk to me, like on chats and stuff like
I'm walking here. I need a cup of coffee. Like
now they're doing like ao oc, let me get a
chopped cheese the AI way, I'm like, shut the hell.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Up, broa, the occuation is not even real, bro, Like,
that's not even I know the real ox. That's not
an oc bro. He's Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
That's the that's the TikTok TikTok ox.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I show you. I'll show you a real My man
is Muhammad. He only like fouras over here at yakas
all four. But actually, and you see, I really love
your content because today what was it? Today's Wednesday? Right, yes,
tues Wednesday, No, say Tuesday Tuesday. You made a video
earlier today talking about today's rundown for NXT, which is
(37:08):
dope because as somebody who wants to catch up on
watching NXT, because that's what I was telling Dave the
other day. Now I feel like I don't have to
really watch it because all I gotta do is just
go to your Instagram. You give me the reviews, and
then nine times out of ten, I'm sure you're gonna
come back and drop another video talking about what happened
on that NXT episode. And I've noticed like, there's not
(37:28):
a lot of people, really, not a lot of content
creators doing your rundowns that you're doing, which is cool
because I appreciate a good rundown.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yes, so I usually do the agendas beforehand because you
can look at WW dot com or AW dot com whatever,
but most people are scrolling through Instagram. They're not on
their web browser looking at WW dot com. They're more
likely to be on social media than they are on
the actual website. So if you could scroll and then
(37:57):
you see me and I'm like, hey, this is what's
going on, then you know, that helps out with the view.
But it also educates the person on what's to expect,
and it could give them like judgment on whether or
not they want to watch the show. So it's not
just oh, you're learning about it, but it's helping you
out and making some sort of decision on what you think.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
He thought it was really helpful during this European tour.
My fail to cut you off because I watched it
and I was like, oh shit, this is on at.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
This time three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was it was really helpful
that I think that'll probably helped a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Next week exactly. Yep, because they're in they're in France.
Some people do the reactions as well. I think those
are good, but you risk getting copyrighted, especially on TikTok.
They have been once in a while. Ww hires like
a IP team to look through and see who's like
(38:48):
like where the recordings are of like the show and
the reactions, and they'll take them down and they strike
so like I usually do them, but and they they
do help. If you're monetized on TikTok and they get views,
they help, but you're also risking your account getting banned.
Unfortunately because of that.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That is that the first response like just quick ban or.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
No, no, you get strikes like they warn you when
if that's going on, they don't just instantly ban you,
but yeah, or they or they may not take it down.
They may not monetize the video specifically because of it
being like yeah, so they'll be like now this is disqualified.
(39:32):
They do what's considered unoriginal, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I got a question, is your favorite wrestler Roman Reigns?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Of course, how'd you know that?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Of course the shirt the Leone.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Jordans in the in the closet to.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Pep the Roman Reigns tattoo. That's beautiful. That's a Mark Mark.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Right, yeah, yeah, I didn't even see that one.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
So I got this at WWE World this year in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I thought that was a Spider Man signed this whole time, you.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Know, I told the misses. I was like, people probably
gonna think it's the Monster Energy drink, like the logo
for that. It could look like it could look like it.
But now I got this. At WWE World they had
like the tattoo station where you could get tattoos, so
like it just so happened to work out where one
of the artists was free, and I was like, hey,
I just want this little thing. They said all right,
(40:32):
I was to do it and made it happen in
like forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's dope. How much did that cost? By the way,
because you know ww price couches me.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's not too bad about all. Because of the price,
I tipped the guy really good. I was like, here's
here's another fifty because you're good. The tip goes to
the the artist thankfully, it doesn't like gets shared.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And did you go to WrestleMania or yeah, I did? Nice.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
That was the last wrestling show I've been to because
at the time when I went, our baby was one
month old, but it was playing way before she was pregnant,
so we were like, we have to go regardless. So thankfully,
you know, my mom helped out to you know, watch
them while we were gone. But as soon as WrestleMania
was done next morning, were already back in New York.
We had to fly immediately as well. She's she's been no,
(41:24):
she's a fan as well. She used to watch it
when she was younger. But when we got together, I
was telling her like, you know, I watched wrestling once
in a while. Then we went to like a show
and she got looked just like I am. Her first
show with me was RAW twenty five at Barclays and
that was when that was when Stone Cold came out
(41:46):
and stunned Vince and I think Shane as well. Like
it was a good show.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I feel like anytime raws in Brooklyn, they always pull
out the stars. They go yeah, yeah, I don't. It's
crazy because like they stopped going to the garden, like
they don't. WW doesn't funk with the garden like that
no more. I think like a house show.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, they do it once in a while, they will
do a televised show, but it's rare now, like one
he would.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Do, like when NXC would do the Barclay Center, when
they would do the Takeoversovers.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, man, I's when SummerSlam was at the Barklays Center. Yeah,
that those were the days.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
This guy knows ball right here, Jail Dino's ball chat
for real.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
It was either it was either in in Barclay Center
or it was in like Stables Center.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, like every summer it was in like one.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Or the two. Never never never anywhere else, never else.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Now that is I mean, they brought football stadiums, Bro,
and those prices are going up crazy.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I don't know if they've seen the videos of like
what is that ramp side? I think who did that video?
I think it was Alan Owns. He did a video
talking about how much it costs resale for the rinks,
for the ramps side tickets, Bro, at least like seven
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I was Wressell pull lose I believe for Run of September.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's it's not even WrestleMania, Bro. That's the wild part charging, Yeah,
what the.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Hell is a wrestle palsa, bro, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Just well, that was the name for the E c
W paper view back in the day. That's why they
took they bought it back, But like, why would you
call it wressel palooza, like when you have a WrestleMania
Like that could have stood in the archives with Yeah,
now there's two triple may they're the same worst. Basically,
(43:30):
I think.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
They're trying to get us used to like you know,
there could be more than one WrestleMania because they're.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Trying to do trying to do Yeah I heard that too, Yeah,
which is but but.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
To Game's point, I feel like the common uh fan
is getting priced out. Like my cousin we've been going
to Mania for the last I've been going to Mania
for like the last seven years or so, and then
my cousin started coming with me. But we just didn't
go last year because it was in Vegas and prices
were all right, but only the night when seeing a
(44:01):
turn heel right, like I was telling I was telling him.
I was telling him on Friday, like, yo, bro, we
just got paid, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
let's go prices is all right, let's go. And then
that Sunday I looked on Monday and he was like, yo,
let's check it out. I was like, yo, you too late,
Like you got me tight. I was like, good with you.
(44:22):
I was trying to put you on. This is the
best time. You just got listening to me, and it
got like priced out once he'll he'll see it turned up.
It's like it tripled, like like the price is tripled.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bro, that's crazy. That's actually sick when you look at
it like that. He'll turn could triple the price of
a ticket. I mean, hey, it probably happened when with
fucking Hogan turned heel like as soon as he dropped yeah,
and they were like, yo, bet up it. I had
another one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Now, if they could have really booked it a lot better,
this could have been epic. This could have been insane
like the Rock and Travis. But like they're scheduling, they
would have gave him. If they would have just gave him,
I'm sorry. If they would have just gave him a group,
like an actual group that's there every week and they
would have run roughshot, that would be tough.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I think it's just that. Uh, because after watching Unreal,
you kind of saw like the conversation that was had
about Sina turning heel, but like, it's not just the Rock,
It's not just Travis Scott or just Sina or Cody,
like you know, h and the producers Bruce Pritchard or
whoever had a saying it. And I feel like they
(45:33):
also had to think long term if they really wanted
this to go. I feel like they were thinking short
term with how they could pop off elimination chamber to
lead into mania. Yeah, that they didn't really think about,
like Sina's final run, how a heel turn would go
towards the end of the year. And so now we
(45:53):
got Seena saying, oh, I want to be a good
guy again, Let's.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Have a They ruined They ruined Sena's he'll turn. Is
there anything that you're you're looking forward to this weekend
on Sunday, jaild at this clash in Paris pay per view,
it being the last pay per view on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Uh, it's so silly.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thankfully I found out Spectrum like as Espnu Limited included
with my plans, So thankfully I don't have to like
do anything with that or pay an extra money, but
sucks for everybody else. Unfortunately. I try to help out
as much as I can with like the VPN stuff
of questions about it, but uh, in terms of Clash
of Paris, I'm just upset that stuff and he doesn't
(46:32):
get her match. In terms of the match itself, I
would say, do you know Logan, I feel is gonna
is gonna cook a little bit Logan as much whether
people hate Logan or not, he can perform in the ring.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
He is very.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Exactly. One of my favorite matches is Roman versus Logan
in Saudi Arabia. That match insane. But I think and
with Seena having a good match with Cody as SummerSlam,
I think this could be a good pairing to put
on one hell of it. And I hope they do.
I hope it's not interference or I hope nothing crazy happens.
Let them cook, that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, I agree to I think John Cena could make
anybody look good, especially after that that that magic Cody,
that was an elite John Cena showing like that's the
John Cena that we grew up with the entire life.
And then you got Roman versus Bronson Roman's gonna do
the I think and probably out I want to do
(47:29):
some movies. But you know he's getting the rub from Roman.
You're getting the rub from the tribal chief, which is Beig. No,
it's not like that's not like anybody like right Brandon.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Sneakers, but he hasn't for one on one mass since
Cody A Mania. I think they were saying that's correct. Yeah,
everything else matches, Yeah, tech triple threat.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
That we have tag team Roman and to double back
on you know, content creators, content creators. Brian he brought
up a point about you know, this is this is
like we're kind of getting a new character of Roman Rings,
Like he's not he's not the godfather sitting at the table. No,
more like he's actually you know, yes, he's trying to
(48:15):
get his championship back, but he's kind of took like
a back seat, like he's not I don't want to
say he's not main event, but like we don't really
see Roman Rings as much as we used to before,
and when we do, you know, he's either getting his
ass beat, he's Jennis Jordan's stolen, or he might be
he might be doing the job. But I kind of
do like where this character can go. He also uh
(48:36):
friend Brian. He also hinted that you know, they might
be doing like a new bloodline, like a new series
of the bloodline, like Jay, you know, saying me just
re rocking it. Possibly just no no Paul Haymen this time,
but their own little you know, their own little click.
But this was a dope ass interview j LD. Before
(48:57):
we wrap it up, I usually act wrestlers if they
could cut a promo for us. No, you're not a wrestler,
but can you cut a promo to send us home?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
You know, I made a funny like I was trying
to make its eventually about like kind of improvised promos.
But let's see week. You see, when I was invited
into the New World podcast, I was pretty excited. I
saw that Gabe was inviting me in. I saw Dave
was joining in last second. But you know what, you
guys fucking killed it. And you know what, because of that,
(49:35):
I am going with none other than the ww Championship.
And that is my improv because I have no idea
what to say.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Let's go and now just give the people your socials
where they could find you any any media outlets platforms.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
So you can find me at just Laying Down. Depending
on what social media platform you find, it might have
an underscore not but Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook reels is
also there. My link tree will be found in my
Instagram or whatever socials that has every single platform that
I'm on. Follow me everywhere. I do long form content,
(50:12):
I do short form content. I try to do vlogs.
I try to collab with people. I try to make reviews,
comedy skits. I try to do everything in the wrestling world.
So if you like wrestling, make sure you're following me.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
See that's a pro bowl look at you. Yeah, ladies
and gentlemen, jail d.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Let's explore this real quick. What else you got we got? No,
I can't believe we didn't use that one.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Get shipped on? What else I got? My mom always
there you go. That's what and that's how we're ending it.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
That's how we're Internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Chat, that's a high note. We're gonna end rate there.
Mommy's on top. Is your boy Gabe? We got Dave
j LD Just laying Down catching on Instagram, The New
World podcast Clashing Paris watch Party this Sunday simple, more
than brewing. We are there at two pm. Nice and sharp.
Come down. I'm opening to the tab. We're keeping the
tab open. You want to drink, come and drink with us.
You want to smoke, they're smoking outside. Kids are loud
(51:15):
at the watch party because that's just how we roll.
Ladies and gentlemen. It's the New World Podcasts. We are
out of here. Peace and love. We love you.
Ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, we are back with
another episode of the New World podcast. It is your
host with the Smoke Game. I got my co host
D and we got a special guest fresh off for
Instagram post. I actually seen him, I think a couple
of minutes ago, now too long ago. He was giving
a rundown on what to expecting that on the next
see we got my boy just laying down jail D.
(00:20):
Thank you so much, Thank you for your time, thank
you for your time, and thank you for you know,
blessing us with your presence. As you guys know, we
did Tim rivera last episode. So if you guys are
paying attention to the episodes, I'm trying to knock out
all the content creators, so all the heavy hitters on Instagram,
the people that you see every day every week, because
consistency is definitely consistency.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Sound too, sorry to interject. I have the sound. I
just forgot which like button to go Excel Audio mixers,
I forgot which one. I think it's this one.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hey, yeah, your finger, keep your finger on that butt
as we go.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I love you because at the beginning, before the setup,
I was like, did he is there a sound board there,
like you actually don't touch them, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Like, yeah, that's funny, jail D, Like I said, thank
you for your time and patience, thank you for showing up.
So I've just started following you, Like maybe yeah he
got that on his solid day, right, but.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm following.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
We found we found each other through the through the internet,
through Instagram, because one thing I've noticed is with the
internet wrestling community, I feel like on Instagram and particularly
it's very small, Like it's the world is big, the
Instagram world is big, but the wrestling community is very
small because all it takes is one retweet, Like I don't.
I don't want to say I don't, but I'm a
(01:49):
big numbers guy when it comes to content. You know,
if if I post something and it will reach one
hundred views, and like this ship is do something. No, Yeah,
it's a bad habit of mine. I've always I've always
been that way. But you'd be surprised who's watching who's
out there? I forgot the gentleman's name. He actually watched
my clip with Tim. I forgot his name. He works
(02:11):
for WW. He doesn't work for WW, but he worked
with them. He's a I forgot his name. His name
is Adrian Okay, forgot his name. But long story short,
content creation and wrestling, especially in New York is very
small at that time. It's a JLD. I seen he was,
he was dope. He's you know, he's doing all the
right things the content creators should do, staying consistent. You know,
(02:31):
he's a fan of the product. There's difference between being
a fan and just reading what the dirt heats tell
you and then putting it on Twitter, which you know, Instagram,
which is a whole different spiel. But yeah, again, JLD,
welcome to the New World Podcast. You are the brand
new member of the South Sidners. But I have a
question for you. So what what? Uh? What's the word
(02:52):
proper way to word this? You have such a passion
for the product, for wrestling, not just ww but wrestling
in general. What sparked that passion and what made you
want to create content?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
So my dad is actually a big wrestling fan. That's
how I got into it. I was twelve years old
when I was like watching it full time. RUF was
s Aggression era, John Cena, Batista, Triple HS, Sean Michaels,
those of my heavy hitters, at the time when I
first started watching, and obviously in between there's probably like
a year or two breaks. You know, there's just you know,
becoming a teenager doing other things and then becoming an adult.
(03:27):
Like there were just some gaps in between, But just
overall been a huge wrestling fan since, and honestly, it's
just something I've just loved to watch week after week
after weekend. It's something that also my dad and I
would bond over a lot. We would always talk about it.
Always watch it on Mondays, watch it on Fridays or
Thursdays whenever SmackDown was on. But yeah, that's how I
pretty much got into it. And then in terms of
(03:48):
wrestling content, I actually started making wrestling content in twenty
twenty one, but I started off doing just Twitch streams
and just I wanted to be a Fortnite streamer. I
wanted to be the call of guy. But you know,
it's very diluted. There's a there's a lot of people
trying to do the same thing. And after a year
of doing that, I made one TikTok of me, you
(04:11):
know the memes where it's like, oh, you got the
job at WW Gotta match Randy yort next week, that's
something like that. I made a video similar to that,
but it was the Undertaker. I was like, I was
at the office, They're like, congrats, you got the job.
The scene turns into me. It's smacked down about to
fight the Undertaker. Silly thing, but it went viral. It
was my first ever wrestling video went viral. Make a
(04:32):
Royal Rumble video right after that Royal Rumble season goes
viral again. I'm like, I gotta do this. That's just
the rest is history, and four years later, here we are.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You send me a video because I got you.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's fine, bro, Like I was saying, all it takes.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Is it just takes one. You can have all the hitting.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The silliest right. It could be the silliest things, bro,
it could be the dumbest thing. How many views did
that video get? That first video you posted or take ballpark.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Around in the beginning, like twenty thousand, and to me
that was a lot because usually I was like in
the four or five hundred view or most of the time,
it'll be rare if I got a thousand, So they
get twenty thousand, I was like, whoa, Like I'm onto something,
and then the next one was a Royal Rumble video
where you got the job, but you're number one in
(05:23):
the rumble. Number two ended up being brock Lessner. So
like I put the music of Lester and everything, you
could see it in my pin tiktoks. It's like, I think,
at one hundred thousand or two hundred thousand, some shit.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Fure so, so who would film these things for you?
Or how did you, you know, get this process going?
Because I think some people want to be content creators
and they want to do it, but they're just not
sure if they can do it or how to do it,
or if they need a team or what's your process.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I do everything myself. My fiance does help out a
lot with filming sometimes if like I need her help
with like her iPhone or whatever, but usually a lot
of times it is with just me myself and I
have my tripod behind me. I use played around with
that for a while when I was doing my early tiktoks.
I have a green screen that I would use and
I would actually edit on my actual computer. But I've
(06:14):
tried to move more towards like TikTok specifically on my
phone because it's just so much time, like having an
edit on the computer, then move it to a phone,
then post it from there. While TikTok and cap Cua
have their own editors, so it just makes it a
little easier in terms of time. But you don't need
a team. You just need a phone and just need
to start. There's no formula of like, oh you need
(06:35):
to like stand in this corner or do this screen screen,
just pick up. There's so many content careers out there
that are so talented that all they're doing is just
like the green screen filter, or like just talking in
front of their phone talking about what's going on, or
make a funny skip. That's all you need. It's all
about the character. You could have all the nice tech,
but the character got to be there and the passion
(06:57):
for it. You can't be a wrestling creator. But like
kind of like how you mentioned just trying to read
the current news and just post a body, you gotta
be invested in it.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Yeah, that's true. Now you do. And like like you
were saying, Day was saying, like there was a lot
of people afraid to pick that camera because you know,
there's usually that stigma that like, oh it looks corny
that you're recording yourself. But it's like, bro, there's motherfuckers making
really bro Like I'm trying to get billions of dollars too.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
They say that, but then they watching people on Kick
and Twitch like I Show Speed and Logan Paul walking
around all parts of the world doing the same thing.
But so like I, I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I had to kind of conquer that fear a little
bit myself being comfortable like going to Comic Con or
going a fanatics fest, holding my own recording and all that.
(07:51):
But so have to realize people don't care and do
and then when they realize what you're doing is working,
they're gonna be like, oh, I'm trying to be like
Dale Day. I'm trying to be like Dave. I'm trying
to like you know, they'll see the confidence in what
you do and they're gonna want to mimic, even if
it seems silly or corny, like you holding the phone
or selfie stick or whatever. Like when they see the
(08:12):
money coming in, they're gonna be like, all right, I'll
do it.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And it's funny because I actually did and excess this year.
It was my first year doing it. I don't even
think I was gonna get it. I just checked my
email that was dope shoot and I had to you know,
get my ducks in order. I had to get my
camera to order new three. So funny story about fanatic stress.
So I went. I had all three days. I didn't
go the third day because I was like, nobody, who's it?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
One day? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, and then it's like nothing really changes. I thought
everything changed like the day like second day or whatever.
It's just the people that changed. So the first day
I get there, I have my setup Dave knows, I
have my little hand, then have my phone, then I
put my DJ on my little light, and then I
have the little microphone like I have a nice little
broke man set up, shout out to DJ I with
the with Action three, and then talking to the boy
(09:00):
that I met down there, my boy g from Brad Rustling,
who we just totally met on a win bro like
if I always say, I always say to him like, yo, bro,
it was God brought you to meet me that day.
Because I was out there like yo, what do I do?
Like where do I start? And then he was like, yo,
I'm not not filming with nobody today you're not filming today,
he was, Yo, let's just ride with each other. So
(09:21):
boom we booked that connection. I ended up losing my
DJI that day, and I was pissed bro losing ship.
I don't like losing anything, So I lost that boom.
That was the first day. Second day I go back,
I'm like, yo, I'm gonna spend the majority of my
time at the w w E part of Fanatics Fast.
My fucking book ends up breaking.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I went to the Travis Scotts stand and I got
like a so I'm carrying around my book. It was
just like Murphy's Walk kicking that day, like that weekend,
because like anything that could have went ring. The only
thing that was perfect was that I found parking, Like, besides.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
That brow the other day, that's an accomplishment for.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Sure. I was not trying to do. I did one
loop around that was like, not no parking, I'm paying
for it. Yeah, that hurt my heart. But that express
was a dope ass experience because it was only the
second one, and I can't wait for the next one
because next one I want to bring my boys with me.
Feel I feel like David O d Love. And then
the Boys, Dennison and Money.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Were you there, jail d.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
This was my second time going this year. Yeah, I
went to the first one last year, but I only
did Sunday because just scheduling just didn't work to go
the other days. And I wish I would have gone
probably Saturday the first time, because Sunday is usually shorter anyway.
But the main reason I went Sunday also, not just
was because the scheduling, was because Rio Ripley was there,
(10:43):
so I agree with her. So you already know is
always on top. Mommy's always on top.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I'm not missing this.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
But it was a fun time. I was very surprised
with fanatics. I was very surprised that Fanatics did their
thing the first time, so I was like, let's go
the second time. And it was a good time.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I didn't know it was going to be that much
like hard sellers. I thought it was going to be
more meet and greets, more like open forums discussions. It was,
you know, like one thing that they I've noticed about
that fanatics fast. They kind of take people from different
worlds and then they bring them together, like they had
Jacob i To and Tiffany Stratton working with a magician
(11:24):
he's like a stage magician like that for like for
like mental health, and I'm like, this is a lot.
It's a lot going on right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's
and and you know it's it was a dope experience.
It was definitely dope. You see Logan Paul, somebody actually
trashed his expensive mass Pokemon card. But I don't know
why he would bring.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I saw the news on that, like somebody Ryan and
Jozach and stupid and pushed it. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And the cards, like I think, if I'm not mistaken,
don't judge me. But it's definitely more than a million
dollar card, like.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
For sure it is.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
That is it's been praised its stringer card.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeo, so so Gabe recently actually speaking of cards, just
got into cards a lot, JAYU You into cards?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm not too much into like are you referring to
WW like tops chrome or you just general anything cards?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Because I feel like, you know, that shit was a
big deal. I don't know how old are you. I'm
thirty two, okay, so we're all the same age. But
like growing up, it was like yo, if you had
that baseball rookie card or whatever, you know, like Babe,
roots whatever, right, that would be insane. And I think
from like twenty and so on, no one really gave
a fuck about cards. But now it's like really back
(12:36):
heavy makes a.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Bunch of adults that finally have adult money that loved
cards as a kid. So to answer your question, I
was a big Yu gi Oh card fan. I still
have my cards to this day. They are right above me.
They are in binders, they are in box I refuse
to give them up. Pokemon cards, I have them too,
I still have them, but I wasn't as big into
them like that. Now, if I wouldn't know own that
(13:00):
base set packs would have been what they are today,
I would not have opened them as a child. But
it's just insane, like exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
But the thing about Pokemon, Pikachu, Pokemon will never die
because Pikachu, you could be a racist. Pikachu can't be sexist.
Pikachu can't say the N word. Pikachu can't get canceled.
That's why Pokemon is forever.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Says one word Pikachu.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Right, he's like broke, He's just that's what it is like.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like even if Ash says some well ship they were
just like, we'll take Ash out like if you could.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Just Pikachu's Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, it took it took Ash like eighteen years to
win the World Championship, Like I seen it on Twitter
the other day, but bro, it literally showed every time
that Ash entered the championship in what place he ranked?
Bro dead asked his last championship he finally won and
the battle I was looking at the battle of you.
I got to see the battle because who the fuck
is gonna be? Like what was ol feeding? Bro? It
(14:02):
was Pikachu versus chars on.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I was like, no, that's a full circle moment though.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I was like, bro, what what do you mean Pikachu's
about it? What chars are? Like this? Like never what? Now?
He could he could? You know, Pikachu see the thing
about Pikachu? He did, So I feel like Pokemon and
like dragon ball z are like one in one is
like you see how like when Pikachu, Pikachu could hit
you with the thunderbowl, but then like you know, when
(14:29):
it's not working, and then I just gotta give him
that little that talk and then he like haulks up
like Pikachu halks up.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And then he's a motivational coach that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But Jay, I was looking at your Instagram before we
got on the thing to get with the pokemon. So
you did. You did one hundred thousand views in a month,
which is that's no easy feat at all. I don't
care who you are. How did you do it? Or
maybe why and how? I don't know which way you
want to answer that question, but like, what made you like, yo,
(14:59):
I need to get? Is that a number that you
were looking for? I need the hundred thousand?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Are you in terms of just like Instagram stats or like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Instagram stats? So that was so I basically made an
experiment over the past like thirty days. It's been past
those thirty days, but like I made an experiment to
post one to three times a day for thirty days
straight as somebody who wasn't consistent with my videos, just
(15:27):
to see what the behavior of my account would be
if I just went non stop posting, And it made
several of those videos that you see on my Instagram
go viral. Several of them include the one where I
talk about VPN with the ESPN announcement. One of them
was I went to the House of Glory SummerSlam weekend,
and I happened to get a clip of Zilifa to
(15:48):
getting defeated by Bully Ray for his title that somehow
went far. And then just a bunch of other videos
talking about just wrestling general stuff. Some of them blop,
but some of them went very far, and some of
them are videos that I don't even think I put
as much effort into. It kind of goes back to
what you said, It's like the silliest things get the
most views, and then the ones I work the most
(16:10):
hardest on are the ones that are just like get
regular generic views. So that's pretty much it. I feel
like I didn't really have like a method to do it.
It was more just like try to report on everything
and see what sticks and how I do it. One
of the things that I've decided to be more consistent
(16:30):
on is where I film my videos, which I don't
know if you see like my most like ten most
recent videos all in the same spot. I feel like
that could also help out with just like the consistency
of people saying, Okay, jail these here, like let's watch
what you got to say, versus like one video I'll
be standing by my ring light and then one video
I'm in the living room and then what I'm laying
(16:50):
down in the bedroom. Like I feel like that randomizes
things and it doesn't catch attention because people remember familiarity.
If I'm saying that correct words a hard sometimes they
remember based on where I'm standing. You know, Keith Lee,
He's always in his car and stuff like that. That's
what kind of go based off.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Of, especially like a catchphrases. I noticed like a couple
of cat content creators that usually some of them could
catch phrases or like they'll they'll start their video a
certain way, like every video starts a certain way. But that's,
like I said, one hundred thousand, that's that's a pretty
big number. That's that's a good number to start. Like
even like, you know, back to the talk that we
were having about me looking at videos and their views
(17:31):
and being impressed, like I think right now for this month,
because Instagram gives you those summaries of like how many
followers you yeah, yeah, my thing and up from at
the beginning of I want to say, July had like
thirty thousand of you. And what motivated me was, you know,
I was I'm trying to get my foot into these events,
these wrestling events all over the world, but preferably the
(17:55):
ones in New York. Man, Bro, I'm I'm writing people.
I'm like email people, I'm like texting people like, yo, bro, like,
what's up? I work media? Can I work? You know?
I do this, I do that podcast. I can make content.
And people with dead ass like we were just responding,
leaving me on rand and fit like lit a fire
(18:15):
under mind. Then that whole month of July and August,
I'm just like, yo, fuck it, bring back the podcast.
We're gonna do this shit. We're gonna kick it up
a notch. We're gonna do watch parties, We're gonna we're
gonna do merch like I want to do it all.
Like I said, I just want to do it all.
I want. I want to take the World Podcast to
brand new heights. I need people in Australia to see
this when we go over there. It's love wherever we go.
(18:36):
I need it that way. But that's that's what pretty
much motivated me. You know, those those numbers, they they
could all be worked and fixed, so but I just
you know, I'm trying to get the name out there,
and how do we get the name out there by
interviewing more people like yourself, more content creators, people that
love wrestling, because, like we were saying before we went live,
the wrestling community, it's such a niche community. It's a
(18:57):
small community. Like there was a point in time, like
back in the day when I was in high school,
Like you couldn't really tell people you watch wrestling.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
They make fun of you, be like, why are you
watching grown men like that are sweating wrestling? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, it's like shut up, you love you watch Love Island?
You watch?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, they watching Love Island. I love ninety Fiance, but like,
don't watch and act like they have a statement?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Did your fiance actually put you onto that show? Because
my wife I.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Know I'm actually the one. I'm actually the one.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I like the one.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
It came up on t LC one day and I
never looked back.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, would you say that's like your guilty pleasure kind of?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I would say so. Yeah, Like I just used a
few clips on YouTube. I got a you'll get a.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
I feel like JLD just like he gets on his
couch with a little blanket, a nice cup of coffee,
the lights brand new season of ninety Bro. That show
is hilarious. I don't know if you've ever seen it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Days a good time, some of them wild, some of
them couples be wild.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I've never seen it. I've only seen like clips of it,
Like that's where the guy, I don't be rude or anything,
but that's where the guy where he was. He's got
like short like I guess Italian guy and short with lady.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Yeah, yeah, So I've seen that on Twitter and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That is but right, people be like, oh, wrestling is fake,
but then you watch.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
That, it's reality show. It's they double take those segments
they do, those are usually rehearsed or so that way, like, sure, you're.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Getting worked by somebody that just went and flew to
another country to fall along. That's work.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, that's funny, Jake.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
How do you balance your your long form content and
your short form content, Like what do you decide what
goes on Instagram, what goes on YouTube? Or do you
keep everything uniform and everything goes on all platforms.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
I'll speak on when I was consistent with long form,
because I've been slacking terribly on long form. I've been
strictly short form right now for like the past two months.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, that's working for you, So that makes sense, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, But I honestly, when it came to long form,
if I thought of an idea, I'd just do it,
and then if I can convert that into short form clips,
then great, But there's not really a method to like
how I balanced them out is just if I have
an idea, I just do it, and then same for
short form. If I have a TikTok I'm thinking of,
I'll make it and then it's I say, the harder
(21:32):
part is managing when I do them, because long form
editing takes much much longer than just going on my
phone and editing a TikTok womblaying in bed for like
ten minutes versus like it'll take like a good hour
or two depending on how long the video is. Like
for my podcast episodes, they take like two days because
like I would do it for like maybe two hours
straight of editing and then I gotta do something else
(21:54):
just to get my mind away from it, and then
come back the next day and it's done. Con went
just time away too, from like life, So I don't
want to be glued here twenty four to seven.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Now, of course, yeah, there you'd be surprised, man, the
things I see on TikTok. There's people that that's all
they do. Bro is a live stream watch. They pretty
much watch watch alongs on Twitch every single day because
there's wrestling on every single day. Think about it, there's
AWTN a WW And Now, what do you think are
(22:26):
your biggest challenges as a as a content creator and
trying to grow? Like, what what do you think can
can help you grow further? Because you're you're you're doing
you're doing great. The looks of things you're doing really great,
but what could take you to that next level?
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Time? Really? I am. I work, so I work full time.
I work eight to five Monday through Fridays. I work
from home thankfully, so that has been one of the
biggest blessings because it allows me to also make content
during the day. Otherwise, if I was like going in
for work, I would not have the opportunity, and the
amount of times you see me post online would probably
(23:03):
be cutting half. And then I have a six month
old son now, so a lot of my time is
to him, so usually I got to make sure like
he's all good, the misses is all good, work is
all good before I can even do any of the
videos you see online. And then sometimes I'm going to
my parents' house, Grandma and grandpa, you know, first time grandparents.
(23:24):
They want to see their kid all the time, their
grandkid all the time, so you know, stuff like that.
So just time, really, like if I had all the
infinite time in the world, I'd be on my computer
twenty four hours making videos NonStop. And you see a
lot of creators do that, and like props to them.
They got teams, they got editors and stuff. They could
(23:44):
push all that out. I can't do that, and that's
not a bad thing. I'm blessed with what I got.
I'm trying not to be like, oh I wish I
had that. I'm blessed with what I have. Now, just
keep consistent with what I'm doing. But time would probably
be the answer to that, because life fakes over and
there's nothing wrong with that. But you know, you gotta
(24:05):
have a life more than just your content gotta have
you got to enjoy your life outside of that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
So your same time is kind of the the obstacle.
But what is so, So what would you say is
the goal like in your eyes, like what would be
that that goal where you can sit back on some
on some thanos like now you know, now I can rest.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
I mean, it would be nice if I could make
full time living off of this, but I know that
consistency is usually how that works. And when I say consistency,
I know I'm consistent usually with Instagram and TikTok. But
I would want to expand to doing long form even
more on YouTube. I would want to be able to
hire an editor. I would want to be able to
record even more. I would want to be able to
(24:46):
vlog a little bit more, maybe go to more wrestling shows,
like I'd want to maybe flatter Survivor series in San Diego.
I would have loved to go to Forbid Indoor in London,
but you know, can't, can't right now?
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So like that, Okay, that's cool. That's don't think you
that you're a brand new deck. I'm also a brand
new thank you. It's dad. Hood is the best hood
and the only hood you want to be in. Man
for really changes it changes your outlook on a lot,
bro Like, you know, there's a lot of Yeah, it's
a lot of sacrifice. It's a lot of sacrifice. One
(25:21):
of my buddies, Manny Manny's content. He's a wrestling content
perguor he's about to become a dad. And you know
I told him. I was like, Bro, there's gonna be
a lot of sacrifices. There's gonna be shows that you
can't go to. Like, Bro, it's funny, Like right now,
my biggest problem is, like I love doing ring side work,
like I love recording wrestlings ring Zone, and every single
(25:42):
day on my Instagram feed, there's a brand new wrestling
show that somebody's gonna have. It can be in Jersey,
in Jersey, and I look at the date.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
So I was nice, low kid.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Jerseys fire. I like this. And I look at my
work calendar because hey yo, hit that button, hit that.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Hey yoo, you freaking But I checked my work calendar,
and Bro, I literally work every single time there's a
wrestling show.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So when there's not a weekend that I work and
there is a wrestling show, Bro, I'm all in. I'm invested,
like and it's just it's a balance, Bro, And it
sucks because, like you said, I wish I could be
going to San Diego to go see Someboder series. Wish
I could go to a w when they you know, like,
but it's it's it's hard, bro. Like and I was
telling you, like trying to get wrestlers on the podcast,
(26:33):
like trying to you know, I've had people leave me
on Red for days and then respond to me and
it's like, Yo, what's up? Like what you mean? What's up?
You just have you all fucking read for a year?
Like how don't we want an interview? No more? But
it'd be like that that's the that's the way of
the beast, bro. And you know, when it comes to
content creating, a lot of people don't understand, like a
lot of us don't really get paid for this, Like I.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Can't get paid, Yeah, a lot of people. Yeah, even
the biggest creators. They've been very vocal like yo, I
don't make a million dollars. I'm not making full full
time money where I could buy a house, Like this
is like a side gig for a lot of people.
And it's just like there's many ways to monetize if
you know how to monetize yourself in every way and
aspect possible, But a lot of times you just got
(27:17):
to take what you can get. Unless you're making sancis
app money, then you're you're talking full time, but it
takes a lot of effort to get to that level too,
not just like an easy win.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
You're you're speaking, Uh it seems like with some knowledge.
So what there's maybe some bit some good ways, some
tips for people to monetize their thing. Like I saw
you got like some package for a minute, mate, that
was tough. That bucket Is that that bucket in the back? Yes, yeah, yeah,
that was tough. Hey, Like one bucket is cool, but
(27:49):
flip it inside that was two buckets, Like that's that
was fire.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because the bucket had here and then flips into the
other thing. There's actually this one too, the rest of
the two thousand No, no, no, this is it's just romans.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I was like, gave you that it would be crazy,
I wouldnt made right now?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
So Jay walk us through that, Like how did what?
What went through the thought process of like, Yo, I'm
gonna do this minute made video. It's either gonna slap
or it's not gonna slap. Like what was the correlation
were you went tosspo with your fiance and you were like, yo,
Jay us is on the bottle, let's buy a sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So I'll answer the minute made part and then I'll
answer the other question about just like knowing about like
monetization and stuff. So for the Minute made, you know,
it's in every freaking Sea town, associated Fine Fair, Walmart
you can think of. So I decided to just so
I just yeah exactly. So I end up just posting
(28:51):
a video with the jay USO one like, and then
Minute Made reached down was like, can we put this
on our page whatever? I said, sure, so you can
find it there, and then they they just ms, yeah yeah,
and then they said, hey, uh, give me your address.
We'll just send you a box, like we're just gonna
send you a gift. Now, this was like a month
(29:11):
ago or two months ago they sent They asked me
to give them my address, so they sent it two
months later. But one thing that I've learned with that,
like posting in general. I guess one of the inspirations
is Alan owns. He posts literally everything like he go,
He's going to the mall. They sixteen of getting wrestling merch,
go with me to the superstore, goal with me here,
(29:32):
go with me there. I got this. I got that.
So That's what I've kind of inspired myself to do.
If I get like a wrestling thing. I'm gonna show
it to social media. I got the carrying cross shirt
that I got the other day, showed it. That was tough,
so I was the same women it made and I
was like, let's unbox it. I'm sure people are gonna
love it, and and it may loved it. They posted
on this story and a lot of people enjoyed it,
(29:53):
so there wasn't really too much to it. They just
reached out and I just gave my address and sent
a nice gift. I said thank you, and then get
a video on it. And then for monetization, just whatever
platform you're on, see what the requirements are. TikTok for example,
create a program. If you can get there, do it.
(30:14):
And before even getting to monetization, just be patient because
you places like YouTube and TikTok aren't going to pay
just anybody. They want to make sure who they're paying
is actually committed to whatever they're doing. So like YouTube
partner for example, that took a long ass time, but
I finally got it through one viral video with TikTok.
(30:37):
I think it's like ten thousand followers and like a
certain amount of views, and then you get paid on
minute long videos. Facebook's I think the only one I'm
not monetized on. They have ridiculous requirements anyway. Instagram, I
think it's like five thousand or like ten thousand something
like that, and then you can get paid on pictures
or carosels and threads. I think you can get monetized too,
(30:58):
but I'm not on there, and then on Twitter I'm not.
But if you pay for like the blue check mark,
I think there's stuff you can do not to sure,
but monetizing yourself everywhere, if you is the way to
maximize how much you make on your content. Because when
I post a you, like when I post a TikTok,
I'm trying to also get monetized, not just there, but
(31:19):
also on YouTube shorts because it's basically the same video
but two different places. Just trying to try it. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
So yeah, in terms of monetization, But even though I
say all this, if you're looking to get into content,
money is not the only thing you should be paying
attention to. Sure, we all want to make money, but
(31:40):
don't do it for that otherwise you're gonna have a
very bad time.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
It's definitely. Yeah, I feel like it's like you said,
It's definitely not about the money for me. This is
more like I just love wrestling. Yeah, I love wrestling.
I would do this. I mean I'm doing it for
free right now anyway. But like, I just love wrestling.
My friends love wrestling. I feel like it's cool that
all my friends are marks because if like, if one
(32:05):
of my friends wasn't a mark, this guy's a Mark.
This guy has like seven WrestleMania chairs. This guy is
a Mark.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
But like I couldn't, I couldn't imagine myself having friends
that weren't wrestling fans, Like, Yo, let's go to this
wrestling show and nobody wants to go. Like, Bro, we
go to h O G we be squatted, It'd be
Leady Danny myself by that, and that shit is dope
to me. Bro, Like that ship is really cool. Is
(32:36):
there any content creators uh jild that you that you
like or that you look up to or you would
like to work with in any way?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Honestly, I try to work with whoever I can. If
somebody reaches out, if I can, and if it makes
sense in terms of like just uh making something that
is worthwhile, then I will do it. If I had
to pick people that I'd love to collab with, probably
probably the main ones, like you know, Alan Owans like
I like, we follow each other, but we've never really
(33:09):
like interacted. I'd love to do something with him, Uh,
you know, Santy maybe one day if we get to
that that super high status con man and Noweezy, all
of them will be cool if they see this. This
is this is me shooting my shot.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
We're gonna we're gonna tag them in the in the
clip we post this. Nah, yeah, that's dope. And so
and again when I when I told you about you know,
trying to get all these oh look at that cat.
That is a weird looking cat. Trying to get all
these content creators, especially specifically the ones from New York.
What how does being from New York? I would say
(33:53):
help influence the content that you make because if you
if you notice, because you're from New York, look at
all the wrestling content creation is from New York. But
like there's just a certain aura and like a certain swagger.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's because we say we're from New York. That that alone,
that alone is like okay, he's from New York. Like
they're interesting, they're from New York.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Bro with the mecca New York. Like I said, the
last Bro, New York is dead ass, the mecca of everything. Bro,
Like we we make the world spin. Bro, look at it.
Hip hop was made here, right and then what's it
the rhythm of hip hop? Graffiti? Graffiti is art. There's
graffiti all over the world, bro, like our food, our money,
Like it's just come on, would you rather? Would you rather?
(34:38):
I'd rather be a guy from all right? Would you
rather talk to a guy from New York or a
guy from Tulsa, Oklahoma? What the hell are they doing
over there?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Oklahoma's not even real.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I'm not saying, dude from Oklahoma today? Actually, you know funny,
that's funny.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Like what are they doing in Oklahoma? One hurricane? They're
done off the map? Like New York is the bloat?
Like but like how you headed that? Because, like I said,
a lot of these wrestling shows they come through New York.
All these events come through New York. Fan that excess
New York.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
We are such privileged people to be from New York because,
like I said, back to the Meca thing, but this
is where wrestlers want to wrestle at. Nobody like every.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
That's it. Everybody wants to play for the Knicks. Everybody
wants to be a Yankee.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So like I try, I try to like like living
in New York my whole life, like you kind of
see it as a status symbol, whether it's on social
media or whatever, like being like, hey, we're from New York.
The only way I really say, I would that it
carries into my content would be the way I speak,
because I've had like several comments where people caught my
(35:46):
accent of a New York accent, especially when I say
summer Slam, so like they catch that. I'm always I like,
my signature is always wearing a backwards hat. That's just
like my goal to so a lot of time too.
You like a Yankees hat like I'm wearing now, but
it's a black one like Tiffany blue green one. Nice whatever,
But try to represent as much as possible, but being
(36:08):
subtle about it because I don't want that to be
my whole personality.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
From New York.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I'm walking here exactly. Even my Twitch friends before I
got into wrestling, like that's all they say like whenever
they talk to me, like on chats and stuff like
I'm walking here. I need a cup of coffee. Like
now they're doing like ao oc, let me get a
chopped cheese the AI way, I'm like, shut the hell.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Up, broa, the occuation is not even real, bro, Like,
that's not even I know the real ox. That's not
an oc bro. He's Puerto Rican.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
That's the that's the TikTok TikTok ox.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I show you. I'll show you a real My man
is Muhammad. He only like fouras over here at yakas
all four. But actually, and you see, I really love
your content because today what was it? Today's Wednesday? Right, yes,
tues Wednesday, No, say Tuesday Tuesday. You made a video
earlier today talking about today's rundown for NXT, which is
(37:08):
dope because as somebody who wants to catch up on
watching NXT, because that's what I was telling Dave the
other day. Now I feel like I don't have to
really watch it because all I gotta do is just
go to your Instagram. You give me the reviews, and
then nine times out of ten, I'm sure you're gonna
come back and drop another video talking about what happened
on that NXT episode. And I've noticed like, there's not
(37:28):
a lot of people, really, not a lot of content
creators doing your rundowns that you're doing, which is cool
because I appreciate a good rundown.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yes, so I usually do the agendas beforehand because you
can look at WW dot com or AW dot com whatever,
but most people are scrolling through Instagram. They're not on
their web browser looking at WW dot com. They're more
likely to be on social media than they are on
the actual website. So if you could scroll and then
(37:57):
you see me and I'm like, hey, this is what's
going on, then you know, that helps out with the view.
But it also educates the person on what's to expect,
and it could give them like judgment on whether or
not they want to watch the show. So it's not
just oh, you're learning about it, but it's helping you
out and making some sort of decision on what you think.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
He thought it was really helpful during this European tour.
My fail to cut you off because I watched it
and I was like, oh shit, this is on at.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
This time three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it was it was really helpful
that I think that'll probably helped a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Next week exactly. Yep, because they're in they're in France.
Some people do the reactions as well. I think those
are good, but you risk getting copyrighted, especially on TikTok.
They have been once in a while. Ww hires like
a IP team to look through and see who's like
(38:48):
like where the recordings are of like the show and
the reactions, and they'll take them down and they strike
so like I usually do them, but and they they
do help. If you're monetized on TikTok and they get views,
they help, but you're also risking your account getting banned.
Unfortunately because of that.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
That is that the first response like just quick ban or.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
No, no, you get strikes like they warn you when
if that's going on, they don't just instantly ban you,
but yeah, or they or they may not take it down.
They may not monetize the video specifically because of it
being like yeah, so they'll be like now this is disqualified.
(39:32):
They do what's considered unoriginal, that's what they call it.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
I got a question, is your favorite wrestler Roman Reigns?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Of course, how'd you know that?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Of course the shirt the Leone.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Jordans in the in the closet to.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Pep the Roman Reigns tattoo. That's beautiful. That's a Mark Mark.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Right, yeah, yeah, I didn't even see that one.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
So I got this at WWE World this year in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I thought that was a Spider Man signed this whole time, you.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Know, I told the misses. I was like, people probably
gonna think it's the Monster Energy drink, like the logo
for that. It could look like it could look like it.
But now I got this. At WWE World they had
like the tattoo station where you could get tattoos, so
like it just so happened to work out where one
of the artists was free, and I was like, hey,
I just want this little thing. They said all right,
(40:32):
I was to do it and made it happen in
like forty five minutes.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
That's dope. How much did that cost? By the way,
because you know ww price couches me.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
That's not too bad about all. Because of the price,
I tipped the guy really good. I was like, here's
here's another fifty because you're good. The tip goes to
the the artist thankfully, it doesn't like gets shared.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
And did you go to WrestleMania or yeah, I did? Nice.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
That was the last wrestling show I've been to because
at the time when I went, our baby was one
month old, but it was playing way before she was pregnant,
so we were like, we have to go regardless. So thankfully,
you know, my mom helped out to you know, watch
them while we were gone. But as soon as WrestleMania
was done next morning, were already back in New York.
We had to fly immediately as well. She's she's been no,
(41:24):
she's a fan as well. She used to watch it
when she was younger. But when we got together, I
was telling her like, you know, I watched wrestling once
in a while. Then we went to like a show
and she got looked just like I am. Her first
show with me was RAW twenty five at Barclays and
that was when that was when Stone Cold came out
(41:46):
and stunned Vince and I think Shane as well. Like
it was a good show.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I feel like anytime raws in Brooklyn, they always pull
out the stars. They go yeah, yeah, I don't. It's
crazy because like they stopped going to the garden, like
they don't. WW doesn't funk with the garden like that
no more. I think like a house show.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Yeah, they do it once in a while, they will
do a televised show, but it's rare now, like one
he would.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Do, like when NXC would do the Barclay Center, when
they would do the Takeoversovers.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, man, I's when SummerSlam was at the Barklays Center. Yeah,
that those were the days.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
This guy knows ball right here, Jail Dino's ball chat
for real.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
It was either it was either in in Barclay Center
or it was in like Stables Center.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, like every summer it was in like one.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Or the two. Never never never anywhere else, never else.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
Now that is I mean, they brought football stadiums, Bro,
and those prices are going up crazy.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
I don't know if they've seen the videos of like
what is that ramp side? I think who did that video?
I think it was Alan Owns. He did a video
talking about how much it costs resale for the rinks,
for the ramps side tickets, Bro, at least like seven
thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I was Wressell pull lose I believe for Run of September.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
That's it's not even WrestleMania, Bro. That's the wild part charging, Yeah,
what the.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
Hell is a wrestle palsa, bro, Like that's.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Just well, that was the name for the E c
W paper view back in the day. That's why they
took they bought it back, But like, why would you
call it wressel palooza, like when you have a WrestleMania
Like that could have stood in the archives with Yeah,
now there's two triple may they're the same worst. Basically,
(43:30):
I think.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
They're trying to get us used to like you know,
there could be more than one WrestleMania because they're.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Trying to do trying to do Yeah I heard that too, Yeah,
which is but but.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
To Game's point, I feel like the common uh fan
is getting priced out. Like my cousin we've been going
to Mania for the last I've been going to Mania
for like the last seven years or so, and then
my cousin started coming with me. But we just didn't
go last year because it was in Vegas and prices
were all right, but only the night when seeing a
(44:01):
turn heel right, like I was telling I was telling him.
I was telling him on Friday, like, yo, bro, we
just got paid, Like you know what I'm saying, Like,
let's go prices is all right, let's go. And then
that Sunday I looked on Monday and he was like, yo,
let's check it out. I was like, yo, you too late,
Like you got me tight. I was like, good with you.
(44:22):
I was trying to put you on. This is the
best time. You just got listening to me, and it
got like priced out once he'll he'll see it turned up.
It's like it tripled, like like the price is tripled.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Bro, that's crazy. That's actually sick when you look at
it like that. He'll turn could triple the price of
a ticket. I mean, hey, it probably happened when with
fucking Hogan turned heel like as soon as he dropped yeah,
and they were like, yo, bet up it. I had
another one hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Now, if they could have really booked it a lot better,
this could have been epic. This could have been insane
like the Rock and Travis. But like they're scheduling, they
would have gave him. If they would have just gave him,
I'm sorry. If they would have just gave him a group,
like an actual group that's there every week and they
would have run roughshot, that would be tough.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I think it's just that. Uh, because after watching Unreal,
you kind of saw like the conversation that was had
about Sina turning heel, but like, it's not just the Rock,
It's not just Travis Scott or just Sina or Cody,
like you know, h and the producers Bruce Pritchard or
whoever had a saying it. And I feel like they
(45:33):
also had to think long term if they really wanted
this to go. I feel like they were thinking short
term with how they could pop off elimination chamber to
lead into mania. Yeah, that they didn't really think about,
like Sina's final run, how a heel turn would go
towards the end of the year. And so now we
(45:53):
got Seena saying, oh, I want to be a good
guy again, Let's.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
Have a They ruined They ruined Sena's he'll turn. Is
there anything that you're you're looking forward to this weekend
on Sunday, jaild at this clash in Paris pay per view,
it being the last pay per view on Peacock.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Uh, it's so silly.
Speaker 2 (46:11):
Thankfully I found out Spectrum like as Espnu Limited included
with my plans, So thankfully I don't have to like
do anything with that or pay an extra money, but
sucks for everybody else. Unfortunately. I try to help out
as much as I can with like the VPN stuff
of questions about it, but uh, in terms of Clash
of Paris, I'm just upset that stuff and he doesn't
(46:32):
get her match. In terms of the match itself, I
would say, do you know Logan, I feel is gonna
is gonna cook a little bit Logan as much whether
people hate Logan or not, he can perform in the ring.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
He is very.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Exactly. One of my favorite matches is Roman versus Logan
in Saudi Arabia. That match insane. But I think and
with Seena having a good match with Cody as SummerSlam,
I think this could be a good pairing to put
on one hell of it. And I hope they do.
I hope it's not interference or I hope nothing crazy happens.
Let them cook, that's it.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Yeah, I agree to I think John Cena could make
anybody look good, especially after that that that magic Cody,
that was an elite John Cena showing like that's the
John Cena that we grew up with the entire life.
And then you got Roman versus Bronson Roman's gonna do
the I think and probably out I want to do
(47:29):
some movies. But you know he's getting the rub from Roman.
You're getting the rub from the tribal chief, which is Beig. No,
it's not like that's not like anybody like right Brandon.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Sneakers, but he hasn't for one on one mass since
Cody A Mania. I think they were saying that's correct. Yeah,
everything else matches, Yeah, tech triple threat.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
That we have tag team Roman and to double back
on you know, content creators, content creators. Brian he brought
up a point about you know, this is this is
like we're kind of getting a new character of Roman Rings,
Like he's not he's not the godfather sitting at the table. No,
more like he's actually you know, yes, he's trying to
(48:15):
get his championship back, but he's kind of took like
a back seat, like he's not I don't want to
say he's not main event, but like we don't really
see Roman Rings as much as we used to before,
and when we do, you know, he's either getting his
ass beat, he's Jennis Jordan's stolen, or he might be
he might be doing the job. But I kind of
do like where this character can go. He also uh
(48:36):
friend Brian. He also hinted that you know, they might
be doing like a new bloodline, like a new series
of the bloodline, like Jay, you know, saying me just
re rocking it. Possibly just no no Paul Haymen this time,
but their own little you know, their own little click.
But this was a dope ass interview j LD. Before
(48:57):
we wrap it up, I usually act wrestlers if they
could cut a promo for us. No, you're not a wrestler,
but can you cut a promo to send us home?
Speaker 2 (49:12):
You know, I made a funny like I was trying
to make its eventually about like kind of improvised promos.
But let's see week. You see, when I was invited
into the New World podcast, I was pretty excited. I
saw that Gabe was inviting me in. I saw Dave
was joining in last second. But you know what, you
guys fucking killed it. And you know what, because of that,
(49:35):
I am going with none other than the ww Championship.
And that is my improv because I have no idea
what to say.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
Let's go and now just give the people your socials
where they could find you any any media outlets platforms.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
So you can find me at just Laying Down. Depending
on what social media platform you find, it might have
an underscore not but Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Facebook reels is
also there. My link tree will be found in my
Instagram or whatever socials that has every single platform that
I'm on. Follow me everywhere. I do long form content,
(50:12):
I do short form content. I try to do vlogs.
I try to collab with people. I try to make reviews,
comedy skits. I try to do everything in the wrestling world.
So if you like wrestling, make sure you're following me.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
See that's a pro bowl look at you. Yeah, ladies
and gentlemen, jail d.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
Let's explore this real quick. What else you got we got? No,
I can't believe we didn't use that one.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Get shipped on? What else I got? My mom always
there you go. That's what and that's how we're ending it.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
That's how we're Internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
Chat, that's a high note. We're gonna end rate there.
Mommy's on top. Is your boy Gabe? We got Dave
j LD Just laying Down catching on Instagram, The New
World podcast Clashing Paris watch Party this Sunday simple, more
than brewing. We are there at two pm. Nice and sharp.
Come down. I'm opening to the tab. We're keeping the
tab open. You want to drink, come and drink with us.
You want to smoke, they're smoking outside. Kids are loud
(51:15):
at the watch party because that's just how we roll.
Ladies and gentlemen. It's the New World Podcasts. We are
out of here. Peace and love. We love you.
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