September 28, 2025 • 33 mins
Join the New World Podcast as hosts Gabe and Lenny Earl Ca$h welcome the dynamic Jay Bougie to the show. In this episode, they explore the vibrant world of wrestling, discussing Jay's rise through the ranks, the importance of representation, and the upcoming ETU event. With candid stories and passionate insights, this episode is a must-listen for wrestling fans and newcomers alike. Dive into the action and discover what makes the wrestling community so unique. #WrestlingLife #Podcast #ETUEvent
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One, ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, we are back
with another one. We're putting in double time. This is
the second episode in the day. This is two days.
You're the es Lenny, your boy, Gabe, we got the
King of New York. J Now you already hold on
correct me if I'm wrong, e t U Atlantic Tag
Team Champion.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
On now. Four pounds of gold.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, twenty one big weight look like a big, big,
big piece of medal.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right there, that's a fact, very big metal for that's
that's a very big piece of metal that you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
You're gonna you know this Sunday, Come Sunday, man, talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yes, let's not wait, no.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Team, let let's talk about it. Bro, Like you said
all this show, really mean it. I took the liberty
of booking all my ops, so you know what I'm saying. Listen,
this is the thing, right, the main thing behind this
right is, there's a lot of teams that were on
the list for the inaugural tournament to become champion. Some
some of them couldn't make it for whatever reason, they
(01:20):
couldn't make it. So bang Bros. You're not well called
on banging Matthew. Sorry because this I know they saw
they changed the name because of a letter. I would
have told them come get it back in the blood personally,
but hey, that's here at least. And then you got
Latinos most one. They both teams were in the conversation
be in the tournament, so hell why not both y'all
(01:40):
pull up? I know y'all from out there in Chicago
and whatnot. We we pretty long to prove that there
ain't no doubt if it wasn't a fluke, it wasn't that.
Every team that we have faced so far has been
a team that would have been inside the tournament. So
now we're just wrapping this stuff, getting ready. These teams
anyone who was in consideration packed them up. We go
on to the next you know what I'm saying, which
is why we have the I Can't Bite tournament.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So so how did that y'all can't fight tournaments even
come about? Because I was actually one person that put
my hand in the draw of that phone call. I
called up one, honey, you can't fight? And yeah, what
exactly was the thought process of that?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That was a genius idea by.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The way Jay, So so pretty much the thought process
was like so, I again, like for most people that
know my story, I didn't come from like the super
big indies. I have to work my way up there.
I didn't have my trainer saying like, Yo, this is
the guy blah blah blah all of that. So for me,
I always like to give in a way. I was
also to pay it forward. I know, I'm still very
early in my career, very young in my career, but
(02:42):
there's a way that I can help with the platform
and opportunity that I have to get people that was
in those same positions I once was in to get
them up there because we just need one chance, bro,
that's all I need to take a chance on me
and ever since then, Yeah, bro, there's a lot of
people that's like that, Like for example, Smashing Bird, he Pricing,
Junior Underwood nasty. Both of them are nasty, bro, Like,
(03:05):
they know how to do some type of you know, fighting, right,
but they're they're're they're great guys. They're a great team.
I love what they do. You also got top team
who's in there, who is a solidified tag team. They've
been doing their thing for a while.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Ye Terioky, I've been I've been seeing for a minute
on the come up for sure take lot, but.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They they they've been doing anything. Kariokey and Jay is
always good to try and like mix it up. Get
people from out of state, from you know, other territories
and whatnot. Get him up here. Sure boys, I'm not
too familiar with them. Becka made the call.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Personally, I don't like people telling me what to do,
but from one artist or another, I granted that request
and that's okay, So that's why they're in there. Then
we got the two bombs, you know them, two bitch
ass hos Uh Game Sky who who is a bomb?
Super bomb? Like he's such a ball bro Like I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
How I mean, I had the pleas actually meeting gave
he's but you booked him.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I was gonna say, like, you know, that wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Listen, I'm one third promoter, okay, one third promoter, So
sometimes things get around that gout around me because I
would have said, why why Matt Matt Matt? We beat
him in the first round, We beat him in the
first round to win the titles. Why is he in here?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
How Wen? How he's here. Yeah, what's the point.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Maybe maybe you could have had cast grabbing there.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know what I'm saying, maybe like a cast grab
you know. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Listen, listen me doing close on that there. No, no,
it's not. But there's another door opening called to show
me series. You know what I'm saying, which really shots,
my boy.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I've seen that we just had with Yes, yeah, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Absolutely, I actually had a pleasure talking with cast before you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, those guys I'm gonna show out.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So a little bit. That's again,
it's another opportunity for people who just need that chance. Bro,
you need that chance. You might, you might not. You
feel I'm saying, be on the bigger indis and whatnot.
But yo, each you we want to create opportunity because
I'm one of those guys that came from I came
from like the SWF bro from from the Wes and
(05:22):
big this all of like the smaller promotions that get
you where you gotta get to. You know, all those
got me to the house to glory, all those got
me to eat by me putting in that work. So
there's guys that are still there that I know. Bro,
we we the same private, Bro, we the team call.
Just get them up here, let them get a ring,
let them show out and see what's up. So, like
I said, we got cast doing that, we got choking,
(05:43):
Well we might do taxing cash, Brad, see what's up?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So there's a lot of ready, always ready. I'm always
ready for that I'm saying, you.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Know, like I'm always try to help my people, you
know what I'm saying, and to let's see what's up.
Because again I'm proof that it's talent in these smaller spots,
you know what I'm saying. I'm proof that, like yo,
we could go just get.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Us exactly, go ahead, No, just I think it's a
real testament to what you're doing, man, because you know,
coming from like an s w F and coming from
you would just think some people's ceilings there and just
to see the growth of you to being a TU
champion and you know, I've seen the I seen, Bro,
(06:29):
I've seen the progression of you.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I really wanted to say, I am proud of it,
of where you where you were and then where you where.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You're at right now.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's just it's just lets you know that if you
do put in the time, you know it will pay
out for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, Bro, I'm still figuring it out. That's the crazy
part to know. I think some people try to be like, yo,
what is bro? I don't know, Bro, trust me, I'm
fearing it out every day like I don't got the
secret sauce nothing, but like you always to keep going, bro. Yeah, Bro,
you got to just learn, bro, like you got look
at it like you done made it this far. While
I stop you. You deserve to see what what the
(07:05):
end result is with all the work so far you
put in.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So just keep going, bro, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And you're putting in work. I mean I forgot to
mention earlier mister mister number four oh one.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah Yo.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
When I see that, I was like, hold on, I
know him, I know him.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Hold on wait yo. Now, So the funny part is, Bro,
I was sleep, so I forgot all about it. Like now, really,
I like this year, I didn't apply myself as much
as I did for previous years for it just you know,
a lot of different things going on and whatnot, and
I was sleep. Bro, woke up. I see congratulations Texas
I'm like, what the fuck did I do? Because I'm like, wait,
(07:47):
did you like Like, I'm like, what did I do? Bro?
Like I ain't think I though it was like sarcasm
or like rage made or something. I shout the man
awesome because man. Also in the time, he was like
yo from ask are you talking about bro? Grand my phone?
I'm like, oh, ship like four oh one, Like damn,
that's a lot better than I expected, Like a cool
let's go there spoke struggles. Struggles sold me. There's a
(08:10):
lot of people from the ET roster that that actually
made it onto the p W I which is which
again testament to ET and what we do. You know
what I'm saying, Like, so it's it's premium independent wrestling, Bro,
You're gonna get quality wrestling every time. Y'all pull up,
every time, y'all, y'all come open up. I w TV,
y'all put on your laptop.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
New World Podcast is definitely gonna be in the building
for expecting unexpected for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Give me.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I can't, I can't, I can't wait. Let's talk about you.
I'm assuming you're from New York. I don't like making assumptions,
but no.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yes, yes, yes, Okay, Bronx New York, that is no cap.
I'm from the Bronx. I'm from King.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So what drew you towards wrestling at such a young
age when you know people wanted to rap or play
basketball or play baseball? And also, hold on, I did
my research. Remember I told you Ja Bougie also raps brother.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Raph So my man, Broway, you be rapping with Ken?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Me and King actually don't have a song, which is crazy.
You actually don't have a song. We was working so
it's supposed to be me Ken and Myron or something,
but the time and it just didn't work out. Yeah, bro,
so Ken and Myron they actually just put the song out.
But yeah, I had a verse, bro, I just the
slide things was going on. I couldn't get it there. Yeah,
but we all save it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I mean, it's can't gonna be in the building that day?
Who who can go?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Can facing Alex Price bitch as Okay, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Enough said, I said, I'm finally meet Kim brow he
face the face first time.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You haven't Ken yet? I mean because he did move.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So yeah, I mean he went to Saint Louis Man.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be my.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
First time I ever heard a lot of stories, heard
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But now to answer your question, Bro, so like I
kind of went the same route. Like I played baseball,
I played basketball, so I definitely got so a little
little side story. So my dad, he's from he grew
up in Harlem. He's what. He was like a street
ball in the hall. Like a lot of people know
my dad were playing basketball. And at first I didn't
want to play ball, just because I know my dad
(10:28):
did it. So I was like, I'm gonna play baseball.
I was playing baseball, t ball. I thought I thought
it was him. Okay, I thought the one no cap Bro.
Until one day my best friend I was on the Mets.
Now I was on the Giants. My best rods on
the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
He was pitching. He threw a curveball at me.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Smack you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, I couldn't. I coudn't even touch the ball. Everything
was bind when it was on the te coaches is
pitching at you. He did one of these, Bro, I know,
cap Roy struck up my whole.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Team, Bro, my own gas gas.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And needless to say, I did not pick up a
bat again. From that day on, I went on about
my business. I started playing basketball. I played basketball in
middle school, played in high school, was going to play
in college as a walk on. My college bankrupt.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So yeah, how often that happens?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well for them? That was the second time, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That was that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So during that time, went to school on Long Island,
and it wasn't a lot for me to for me
to do.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Hold on, real quick, do you think I got to
put on the promoter hat? I don't know it?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, bro, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
want to.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You know, go ahead, executive course, all right?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So which one we do?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Live on podcasts? That's how you know business because it
gets done, it gets is it?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
One of the whack niggas on the phone?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, no, on the podcast right now, promoting and all that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I love this so much. I'm clipping this.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Only baby Girl may her podcast debut, Baby Girl cash
right here, shut.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Out to the baby baby.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I can't wait. It's gonna be another news guys for
ET present. I really mean it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I really mean it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
September twenty eighth, four pm at the Mecca, New Jersey
Billionaires Club presenting people. You didn't mention this, but there's
gonna be Mike Saint Tanner versus Josh Bishop, which is wild.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Sorry, you know what I mean the
phone phone.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Dog dog A big week in businessman, big weekend. We
get it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You're the booker, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like I said, one third and it just happened. I
might be getting another one. But to just go back
and answer that real quick. So I was in my
school nothing to do, bro, like nothing at all. I
was bored school exactly. This is a hollow college. This
when I was in College Island. So yeah, I'm in
(13:11):
my room, Bro, I'm going Google. I'm like, I'm gonna
say basketball man, serious, like real serious, I'm gonna do wrestling.
I was gonna NBA D League tryouts, my basketball camp
to go to for like the Philadelphia, New York.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
What's back? All right? Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Then what really means it?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
He really means it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Charl's Mason versus Carl Kwan is gonna be a card
as well. Yeah, that's Alexander versus Austin Luke.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
As he says a game, that's a game right there, Okay, huh.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And then you have a three Triple Threat Women's match
is the day of steel. My world in jen Kai.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
All right, Janey like j Kai ya tonight. I'm sorry
to Jani Kai. Yeah, miss deadly Feats, I've seen those
feet in action already.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And shout out to uh pretty boy smooth as well
for getting number two A three on the p W
y as.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Well, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I did my research.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Scott real workers on this Sunday, On this Sunday, work man,
real workers.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
All right, listen to the phone, bad.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, but yeah, we get it to.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Get this going right. I looked up uh w W
Johnny Rods's what I trained, and I also looked at
the House of Glory. Now I was stuck between the two.
But the selling point for me was w W you
knowee what I'm saying Like I never like I didn't
know about anything on the W like I knew about
teen a later on, I didn't know about our wage
(14:42):
New Japan CML trip. I didn't know about nothing I
know about. I knew stone Cold, bro stone Cold when
King does this fire comes.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Out undertake up exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, that's what I knew. Going to Johnny's, I was
there for a minute that's where he's got les.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, back this gym.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I went there and then you know, just pretty much
started out doing my thing and everything pandemic hit. So
I had to break out because I have to do that.
What's up? We want to say.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
A lot of kids, what's your car?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Here? You go?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
All right down, blessed, go ahead, put the mummy.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I love that little cameo, little cameo.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're gonna chill. You can stay if you chill, You're
gonna chill. So I did all of that, Bro, started
hitting the scene and whatnot, and eventually bring my way
to the house with glory Bro, like honestly, like there's
just a lot of hard work with s w F
to tighten and victors all these other places Bro. And
then oh.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I think we got to come back. Yeah, yeah, it's
all good.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
He'll come back. Yeah, now that we're.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Too many game right now.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But this second live to you, I really mean it,
I really really mean it.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
We really mean it. He really means it. One third booker,
full time, Dad, full time.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
That one third booker that's back there.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
He is listen. Yeah, he's in the mix now.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So yeah, so you spoke about your trainer Hall of Famer.
What was the most valuable lesson he's taught you as
a trainer, Johnny outside the ring.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'll never forget this. He was like, it's his two words,
his professional wrestling. Like it's not just the rest. You
have to be a professional in and off the ring.
So he's like, very very early. So it's like, no,
how to conduct yourself not a wrestling part? What eight minutes?
You got to be a professional? Four seven mm hmm.
You really broke that down to me, and we really
(16:51):
broke that down to me. I was like, all right,
that's something I only stuck.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
When you get the change to House of Glory exactly.
I don't know what's happened.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, no, no, you can leave, you can leave it. It's just.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh what what exactly was the biggest switch from those
two schools for you?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, for a House of Glory, I kind of like
came in as like talent. I came in as talent.
You know, I didn't I didn't train there. I was
just fortunate enough to have a type of relationship with
Main Event. They were the first guys that really opened
that door. Yeah, bro, because I spoke to him. So
it's crazy enough we met through s w A. I
(17:36):
didn't even realize it was them at that time m hm,
but they remembered it and I met Ben routin Oh So.
So Ben was actually the reason why I got on
my first house at Glory Show. He called me, I'm
in the crib because the sixth Way's six days. Always
need somebody, Yeah, crib, bro ain't Call of Duty? Yeah, bro?
(17:58):
And he calls me. I'm like, like, what a bitch?
What you want? He's like, Yo, why got you all that?
I'm like, what you want? Bro? Why are you calling me?
He's like, yo, you in a crib. I'm like yeah,
He's like, Yo, get the house right now. I'm like
what He's like, Yo, Bro, get here right now. I'm like,
all right, I'm playing Call of Duty. I'm in the
middle of wards. I here, Bro, I gotta go. I
gotta get the hog quick. Got dressed. And this is
(18:19):
when I was this is when I was up in Yonkers.
So you know how the Metro North is, Bro, you got.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
To like every every every thirty minutes. Yeah, it's over.
I take every day still, Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't know, like if it was God, wherever the case,
it was, Bro, But like the train was coming in
like eight minutes, bro. So I had enough time right
there my bag, bro, and I was just gone, bro,
because you knew where I lived at, so you know
I was right there.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah yeah yeah, right next to the to the train.
So then you just that and then to the l R.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah bro. So I'm i'm I'm I'm on my phone
scrambling like like I knew where it was at, and
I'm like that E train's gonna smoke my mine. So
I'm just looking. I didn't know you go to you
go to forty second and down there and right there's
is great. So I get there, bro, first person I
see is Brian. I'm like, yo, Brian, You'll thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You like who. I'm like, that's the typical, that's typical Brian. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Who.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'm like, I'm like, yo ja. He's like I ain't
no one tell him nothing. Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It was like I remember this. I actually remember this day.
Yeah bro.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So I'm like, great, you're starting off. You're starting off
great right now.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Just went out there, did the sixth Way. It's really
really fun.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Then I got called back the next show, then the
next one, and the next one, and I think what
kind of helped me stay there was I remember Amazing
Rad telling me he was like you, you was out
there like you wanted to be there, like like he
was out there, like you wanted to prove something like
like you showed intent and desired and I wanted to.
I always want to be a House of Glory. You
ain't never know how to get there, Bro, It's.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Very hard, Yeah, to select you, It's.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Very very hard. And I'm wanting, like again, I'm very
select who's an outsider, who's a regular at this point, Bro,
I've two years now, I think it's.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Been Yeah, I remember, I remember exactly that fabling.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Bro, I'm going to the out of state shows. Bro,
you feel what I'm saying, Like I just put in
their work, so like all to that point where I
face Amazing Red in a singles matchup, Like not a
lot of people could say they even faced the Amazing Red,
but in a singles at that.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And let alone, Like you know, like you said, you
had that desire, you wanted, you wanted it, so you know,
you give reward. And that's I think another big thing
about House of Glory. You know, for the dudes that
they actually see put in the work you're gonna give rewarded.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And I've seen it. I've seen it first hand.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I mean Main Event was about to have the Hearty's
again for the second time.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Like you're gonna be wild.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I can't wait, Like you know, So shout out main Event.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Man, not not, But like to go back to what
you're saying, how I got this. Shout out the main Event,
Shout out to Cashow, Kim Broway, shout out Ben, Charles Mason.
You know what I'm saying, Uh Ben? You know everybody
like I think I was saying it, like it's Charles
versus Quad. You know, that's that's my best friend. That's
my killer, best friend, so crazy, that's a I know,
(21:11):
real killer. I called Charlie but like you know, he
wanted to call him on that line, but I said,
fuck it, I know I gotta call him hand. You
know what I'm saying. So it was good and I
can't wait to see him, like cut him up. They
can bleed. I need violence, I need bud all that.
I'll be happy as a booker.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'll be happy, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So you know we talked about promotions. You actually did
a really good job in segueing the next question. Uh,
do you know how many promotions you worked for to
this point?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, maybe, like damn, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
My man got his book is stamped, all right, my
man is a worker.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, I tell you, can I tell you what
my research shows me?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Please tell me the word.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So, because we're in twenty twenty five, it says by
twenty twenty four you worked for over fifty promotions CCW,
H O, g MLW. People don't know this, J BUSI
was on AW AW. Yeah, wow, wow, baby, I does
my research?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Come on, yeah you locked in?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Locked in?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I love that, Come on twin. When I fuck with you,
I fuck at you a long way. Yes, there is,
what are to you? The biggest difference is on the
locker rooms in those different promotions. Do you prefer the
more intimate or do you like the TV taping style?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I so, I like it really depends though, because like
my time and like so my time at AW in
the locker room. So I've been I've been at AW
a couple of times. I've only been on the screens,
but I've been there a couple of times. And then
I've done TNA as well.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I was bad.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I did ww he wants right before mania. I think
the best locker room experience in MLW fro about that,
and that's locker experience I've had was TNA, just because
a lot of guys in there like are still on
the independence and like I have a relationship with them,
which gold, which goes a really long way because like
you don't feel as awkward or like you know, you
(23:20):
don't want to be a bother to any of them.
So that definitely helps when you have that relationship with
them and they pay attention to that, like they say,
like yo, like if you know people in here, like
get with them, can we talk to them?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What's up? Like They're very open about them. Yeah, it
comes to like anything else, Like I love being at
Etu et is like my favorite locker room, bro Etu
House and Glory Room, Like those are two places where
like I'm chilling, what's up?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I know it's expected, It's a certain level comfort. I
was gonna also say so, I asked Castas. But throughout
your career, right, and you've seen a lot of different
kind of venues, different kind of locker rooms. What is
your favorite, baby I gotta, I gotta, I gotta ask
(24:06):
what is your favorite aspect of wrestling?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like up to this point, what.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Is like, like what makes you like what makes the
job other than you know, obviously the making sure your
family's you know, taking care of and things like that,
what exactly is your favorite aspect of wrestling?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I think getting getting to see my boys, especially when
it's like been a while before you've seen them, like
that's definitely fine, or where you or when you get
to see people who's like out of state, like for example,
like I'm I'm excited to see Maya World bias and Philly,
what's wrong you? Okay? She want that milk?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, she's just getting hungry.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I got my girl by the pull up. She good good?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, No, I haven't seen Maya World in mad long grow.
So like that's someone who I'm excited to see you
just to also be able to like yo, like you've
been killing it. You've been doing your thing, even to
Teri Yaki again, you fee what I'm saying. It's been
a minute, So.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Like those like callbacks to like you remember when we
were here and now yourself and also.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Like it was good bro, like you've been doing your thing,
like what's up. It's really one of those moments where
you could just give each other flowers. I think that's
that's like the best thing. And then like also just
knowing that you and the other person are are bigger
than which I were before, Like yeah, y'all you're grown,
Like you guys have grown so much since when you're
last seen each other. You really like talk about it.
So that's definitely fun.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
No, definitely, And uh, you you're you're one that deserves
their flowers, and that's what this podcast is for, is
to give people their flowers, because again I've seen the
first time I seen you was at h O G.
As soon as you walk through came through the energy,
I was like yeah with them And it's crazy because
(25:55):
you and and Sweet Cheeks Joy Silver one of the
first two people that I reached out to to interview,
and we spoke a minute ago about you know, just
this happening like this like doing this eventually, and it
took time because people scheduled and busy we have, you.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Know, but this is perfect. This is perfect.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
This is this is a beautiful podcast episode because you know,
we get to see the evolution that Jay bougie. We
get to see what's next coming this Sunday at Etu,
I really mean it, which is gonna be dope and
and I'm excited. And again you're the goat. You're keep
doing what you're doing. Bro, Like there's I'm just like
(26:36):
when I was doing my research, I'm like, damn, Like
this guy is really that nigga, Like he's really like
like you feel me like this this ain't no shindy,
no shindy wrestler here.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah you know me, you got some for me. My
thing is like I really wanted like take on all
like the heavy word, like I want to take on
as much as I can. So that way, like I
could build that platform. So people from Kingsbridge, people from Younger's,
people from all on, people from wherever, even when I
(27:10):
used to live out in Jersey City, Like if they
want to wrest you want to do this, they can
be like all right, boogie, laid the foundation. It's lit.
Like for example, Mike Santana, Bro, he just got Bro.
If you ever noticed in w W games or just
in general, they be like Yo from New York, New York,
from New York City, they said bronx Bro. They said
from Bronx, New York. It's heavy. I used to place
(27:31):
smack versus Ro. I have to put from New York
up Brooklyn doing that, Bro, like I didn't want to
do it. I'm from the Bronx. Bro. You feel me
the birthplace of hip hop Kingsbridge sent you ad Bro,
Like that's where I'm from. Bro. So it's like I
want to be able. So when it's time for the
next game and stuff, you has the Bronx. See they
said Bronx from bronxtill they got you gotta say the Bronx, Bro,
(27:52):
you gotta say the whole day. It was like that.
That's the type of time that I'm on, Bro, where
it's like I wanted to be when Jay Boogie is
in town. Feel me when whether it's R O H, A,
W W E T and or whatever, whenever we in.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
New York that hometown.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Feel you feel what I'm saying. When it's like when
when like when KD pulled up the Dykeman, or when
John just pulled up the Dykman over the summer, like
you with Somement, You're running over there, Bro, You're what's
up and slipping out. I want that same energy bro,
I feel like it's it's very uh similar to like
seeing punk is in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yes, yeah, I's gonna say I think. I think when
you have something homegrown, it just feels more, you know,
like like me and Gabe actually are trying to orchestrate
a show for Yonkers. You know, it hasn't been a
younger show and god knows how long now, so you know,
and one that connects with you know, all shaded people,
you know what I mean. Like that's another thing too.
(28:43):
We kind of, like you said, we need these outlets
and we kind of need to be the beacon for
our people, you know, for the next you know, and
who's going to be the next Jabos because were gonna
need more of that, you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But like but more so, like I always in courage
people like you always say like who's the next, Who's
the next of this?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Someone?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like now you yeah, of course, like do you like
for me, there's only one you, and we need that.
We don't need another Boozie. You don't need another lane.
You don't need nah be you because like your own
uniqueness is what's gonna drive what's gonna elevate everything you
put in that time and you do it with with
a pure heart and pure intentions and something where it's
like now I want to grow and get back then Yeah,
(29:24):
like it's gonna be fied, bro, It's gonna be O
D fire. So like again, for me, that's just what
I want. I want to be able to all the
kids on the block. Bro. You feel I'm saying, Yo,
I want to wrestle. I don't gotta play ball. I
gotta do baseball, I gotta do football.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
We found my own thing. Yeah, you feel me.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't gotta don't got a gang bang, none of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like I feel like there hasn't been like proper representation
of that side of it, you know what I'm saying,
where it's like, yeah, we got people from from somewhat
urban communities or something, or maybe they haven't, but their
story hasn't been told that way. Like for example, like
I got to I got to kick with Sydney A King.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
He told me like his real story bro, Like he
was like I wanted to portray it a certain way,
but like they just wasn't rock with at that time.
We need more of that, bro. So it's like it's
good he's able to do his own thing like now
and how he does it. But just hearing his story
on the one to one and how he was chopping
up gave me his numbers, like you bro, hit me
up any time like that made me feel good because
(30:24):
I'm going in the right direction, you know what I'm saying.
Like my mindset is something where it's like okay, cool,
Like we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's gonna take some time. Bro, It's definitely gonna take
some time, but like I'm open to it. I'm ready
for it, and uh yeah, let's just let's just rock out. Bro,
We're gonna have fun.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Then, No, I can't wait. I can't wait. Ja Buch,
you the man the rockets on your back. Like you said,
just keep going. The theme of today is keep going.
Like we told thvious cast, just keep going. That kid's
eighteen with straight a's four pointzing Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah and going come on, bro, and going and.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Doing top planches and then going to class on a
regular day.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So he got classy starts and we see where she's
at and now.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
She's back speaking exactly right. Come on.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
The trajectory is in no Yeah, We're gonna, We're gonna,
We're gonna wrap this up. Jay Bougie, would you please
do the honors take us home with this promo? E tu,
I really mean to kill your naires club. The mic
is yours taking simple water. Go ahead, feel yo.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Great song by the way, love It has been on
my favorites for a while. Now listen, man, you already
know what talking up for about thirty minutes, the whole story. Yes,
I know what it is here he's eat you. I
really mean it. We got some of the finest restless
ever on the car. We got a bunch of bums
on the car. We got a bunch of people who
can't fight on the car. It's a car for everybody,
(31:48):
even so, even even for the kids, for the kids.
And you already know what's gonna happen. Who's gonna walk
in there? Last champs? Gonna walk out of there? Champions?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Never when's that gauntlet? Ye understanding that y'all can't fight.
It's already been proven, it's already been set. So understand
this one more thing to you. Sign if I asked
for just know that you're gonna get paid. You won't
get paid. You're gonna get to ask on the back
end too, exactly. It's big money, it's big bars, SEC Club.
(32:19):
Get with it or get loose.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Wise Worthy, the Man, the Myth, the Legend, Rox New
York's sister.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
All hats right now.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I gotta wear every single hat promoter.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
If you guys ain't here it all Episode dun Day,
September twenty eight, four pm at the Mecca ETU Presents
I Really mean It.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Cillionaire's Club Podcast Live will be there, live, gonna have
some reactions, gonna have a lot of footage in the
back there.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Listen. Me and Leonard locked in, Mike Santano be there,
Josh Bishop, so much talent, Killionaires will be there, Charles
Mason again. Like Ja Bougie said, it's a card for everybody.
There's bums, there's fighters, there's high flyers, everything you want
to see. It's a well put together card. J Bougie
number four oh one to.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
The p W.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I like, come on, guys, listen, listen. I don't I
don't talk a lot of shit on this podcast, but
Jay Boogie here, so I'm gonna talk some shit. Listen.
We talk about it, went bums, We interviewing.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Bus, like, come on, real work, real work.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
We got Jay Bougie, we got Tim Rivero, we got like,
come on, like we really you feel what I'm saying here,
Like this is the quality upset.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You ain't want to say no more.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You guys, they know what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Just pull up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Pull up and bring your fifty dollars and bring some
merch because you copping out your New World podcast. Leneal Cash,
Jay Bougie, the King of the Bronx, the Kings of
Young because we here, we outside, you're
One, ladies and gentlemen, Boys and girls, we are back
with another one. We're putting in double time. This is
the second episode in the day. This is two days.
You're the es Lenny, your boy, Gabe, we got the
King of New York. J Now you already hold on
correct me if I'm wrong, e t U Atlantic Tag
Team Champion.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
On now. Four pounds of gold.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, twenty one big weight look like a big, big,
big piece of medal.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Right there, that's a fact, very big metal for that's
that's a very big piece of metal that you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
You're gonna you know this Sunday, Come Sunday, man, talk
about it.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yes, let's not wait, no.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Team, let let's talk about it. Bro, Like you said
all this show, really mean it. I took the liberty
of booking all my ops, so you know what I'm saying. Listen,
this is the thing, right, the main thing behind this
right is, there's a lot of teams that were on
the list for the inaugural tournament to become champion. Some
some of them couldn't make it for whatever reason, they
(01:20):
couldn't make it. So bang Bros. You're not well called
on banging Matthew. Sorry because this I know they saw
they changed the name because of a letter. I would
have told them come get it back in the blood personally,
but hey, that's here at least. And then you got
Latinos most one. They both teams were in the conversation
be in the tournament, so hell why not both y'all
(01:40):
pull up? I know y'all from out there in Chicago
and whatnot. We we pretty long to prove that there
ain't no doubt if it wasn't a fluke, it wasn't that.
Every team that we have faced so far has been
a team that would have been inside the tournament. So
now we're just wrapping this stuff, getting ready. These teams
anyone who was in consideration packed them up. We go
on to the next you know what I'm saying, which
is why we have the I Can't Bite tournament.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
So so how did that y'all can't fight tournaments even
come about? Because I was actually one person that put
my hand in the draw of that phone call. I
called up one, honey, you can't fight? And yeah, what
exactly was the thought process of that?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
That was a genius idea by.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
The way Jay, So so pretty much the thought process
was like so, I again, like for most people that
know my story, I didn't come from like the super
big indies. I have to work my way up there.
I didn't have my trainer saying like, Yo, this is
the guy blah blah blah all of that. So for me,
I always like to give in a way. I was
also to pay it forward. I know, I'm still very
early in my career, very young in my career, but
(02:42):
there's a way that I can help with the platform
and opportunity that I have to get people that was
in those same positions I once was in to get
them up there because we just need one chance, bro,
that's all I need to take a chance on me
and ever since then, Yeah, bro, there's a lot of
people that's like that, Like for example, Smashing Bird, he Pricing,
Junior Underwood nasty. Both of them are nasty, bro, Like,
(03:05):
they know how to do some type of you know, fighting, right,
but they're they're're they're great guys. They're a great team.
I love what they do. You also got top team
who's in there, who is a solidified tag team. They've
been doing their thing for a while.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Ye Terioky, I've been I've been seeing for a minute
on the come up for sure take lot, but.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They they they've been doing anything. Kariokey and Jay is
always good to try and like mix it up. Get
people from out of state, from you know, other territories
and whatnot. Get him up here. Sure boys, I'm not
too familiar with them. Becka made the call.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Personally, I don't like people telling me what to do,
but from one artist or another, I granted that request
and that's okay, So that's why they're in there. Then
we got the two bombs, you know them, two bitch
ass hos Uh Game Sky who who is a bomb?
Super bomb? Like he's such a ball bro Like I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
How I mean, I had the pleas actually meeting gave
he's but you booked him.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I was gonna say, like, you know, that wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Listen, I'm one third promoter, okay, one third promoter, So
sometimes things get around that gout around me because I
would have said, why why Matt Matt Matt? We beat
him in the first round, We beat him in the
first round to win the titles. Why is he in here?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
How Wen? How he's here. Yeah, what's the point.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Maybe maybe you could have had cast grabbing there.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know what I'm saying, maybe like a cast grab
you know. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Listen, listen me doing close on that there. No, no,
it's not. But there's another door opening called to show
me series. You know what I'm saying, which really shots,
my boy.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
I've seen that we just had with Yes, yeah, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Absolutely, I actually had a pleasure talking with cast before you.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, those guys I'm gonna show out.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So a little bit. That's again,
it's another opportunity for people who just need that chance. Bro,
you need that chance. You might, you might not. You
feel I'm saying, be on the bigger indis and whatnot.
But yo, each you we want to create opportunity because
I'm one of those guys that came from I came
from like the SWF bro from from the Wes and
(05:22):
big this all of like the smaller promotions that get
you where you gotta get to. You know, all those
got me to the house to glory, all those got
me to eat by me putting in that work. So
there's guys that are still there that I know. Bro,
we we the same private, Bro, we the team call.
Just get them up here, let them get a ring,
let them show out and see what's up. So, like
I said, we got cast doing that, we got choking,
(05:43):
Well we might do taxing cash, Brad, see what's up?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
So there's a lot of ready, always ready. I'm always
ready for that I'm saying, you.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Know, like I'm always try to help my people, you
know what I'm saying, and to let's see what's up.
Because again I'm proof that it's talent in these smaller spots,
you know what I'm saying. I'm proof that, like yo,
we could go just get.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Us exactly, go ahead, No, just I think it's a
real testament to what you're doing, man, because you know,
coming from like an s w F and coming from
you would just think some people's ceilings there and just
to see the growth of you to being a TU
champion and you know, I've seen the I seen, Bro,
(06:29):
I've seen the progression of you.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Man.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
I really wanted to say, I am proud of it,
of where you where you were and then where you where.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
You're at right now.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
It's just it's just lets you know that if you
do put in the time, you know it will pay
out for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yeah, Bro, I'm still figuring it out. That's the crazy
part to know. I think some people try to be like, yo,
what is bro? I don't know, Bro, trust me, I'm
fearing it out every day like I don't got the
secret sauce nothing, but like you always to keep going, bro. Yeah, Bro,
you got to just learn, bro, like you got look
at it like you done made it this far. While
I stop you. You deserve to see what what the
(07:05):
end result is with all the work so far you
put in.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So just keep going, bro, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
And you're putting in work. I mean I forgot to
mention earlier mister mister number four oh one.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah Yo.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
When I see that, I was like, hold on, I
know him, I know him.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Hold on wait yo. Now, So the funny part is, Bro,
I was sleep, so I forgot all about it. Like now, really,
I like this year, I didn't apply myself as much
as I did for previous years for it just you know,
a lot of different things going on and whatnot, and
I was sleep. Bro, woke up. I see congratulations Texas
I'm like, what the fuck did I do? Because I'm like, wait,
(07:47):
did you like Like, I'm like, what did I do? Bro?
Like I ain't think I though it was like sarcasm
or like rage made or something. I shout the man
awesome because man. Also in the time, he was like
yo from ask are you talking about bro? Grand my phone?
I'm like, oh, ship like four oh one, Like damn,
that's a lot better than I expected, Like a cool
let's go there spoke struggles. Struggles sold me. There's a
(08:10):
lot of people from the ET roster that that actually
made it onto the p W I which is which
again testament to ET and what we do. You know
what I'm saying, Like, so it's it's premium independent wrestling, Bro,
You're gonna get quality wrestling every time. Y'all pull up,
every time, y'all, y'all come open up. I w TV,
y'all put on your laptop.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
New World Podcast is definitely gonna be in the building
for expecting unexpected for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Give me.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I can't, I can't, I can't wait. Let's talk about you.
I'm assuming you're from New York. I don't like making assumptions,
but no.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yes, yes, yes, Okay, Bronx New York, that is no cap.
I'm from the Bronx. I'm from King.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So what drew you towards wrestling at such a young
age when you know people wanted to rap or play
basketball or play baseball? And also, hold on, I did
my research. Remember I told you Ja Bougie also raps brother.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Raph So my man, Broway, you be rapping with Ken?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Me and King actually don't have a song, which is crazy.
You actually don't have a song. We was working so
it's supposed to be me Ken and Myron or something,
but the time and it just didn't work out. Yeah, bro,
so Ken and Myron they actually just put the song out.
But yeah, I had a verse, bro, I just the
slide things was going on. I couldn't get it there. Yeah,
but we all save it.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
I mean, it's can't gonna be in the building that day?
Who who can go?
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Can facing Alex Price bitch as Okay, I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Enough said, I said, I'm finally meet Kim brow he
face the face first time.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
You haven't Ken yet? I mean because he did move.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
So yeah, I mean he went to Saint Louis Man.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's going to be my.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
First time I ever heard a lot of stories, heard
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, let's see. Let's see.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But now to answer your question, Bro, so like I
kind of went the same route. Like I played baseball,
I played basketball, so I definitely got so a little
little side story. So my dad, he's from he grew
up in Harlem. He's what. He was like a street
ball in the hall. Like a lot of people know
my dad were playing basketball. And at first I didn't
want to play ball, just because I know my dad
(10:28):
did it. So I was like, I'm gonna play baseball.
I was playing baseball, t ball. I thought I thought
it was him. Okay, I thought the one no cap Bro.
Until one day my best friend I was on the Mets.
Now I was on the Giants. My best rods on
the Yankees.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
He was pitching. He threw a curveball at me.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Smack you.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
No, I couldn't. I coudn't even touch the ball. Everything
was bind when it was on the te coaches is
pitching at you. He did one of these, Bro, I know,
cap Roy struck up my whole.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Team, Bro, my own gas gas.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And needless to say, I did not pick up a
bat again. From that day on, I went on about
my business. I started playing basketball. I played basketball in
middle school, played in high school, was going to play
in college as a walk on. My college bankrupt.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So yeah, how often that happens?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well for them? That was the second time, which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
That was that.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So during that time, went to school on Long Island,
and it wasn't a lot for me to for me
to do.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Hold on, real quick, do you think I got to
put on the promoter hat? I don't know it?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, bro, you know what I'm saying. Everybody
want to.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
You know, go ahead, executive course, all right?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So which one we do?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Live on podcasts? That's how you know business because it
gets done, it gets is it?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
One of the whack niggas on the phone?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
No, no, on the podcast right now, promoting and all that.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I love this so much. I'm clipping this.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Only baby Girl may her podcast debut, Baby Girl cash
right here, shut.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Out to the baby baby.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I can't wait. It's gonna be another news guys for
ET present. I really mean it.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I really mean it.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
September twenty eighth, four pm at the Mecca, New Jersey
Billionaires Club presenting people. You didn't mention this, but there's
gonna be Mike Saint Tanner versus Josh Bishop, which is wild.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Sorry, you know what I mean the
phone phone.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Dog dog A big week in businessman, big weekend. We
get it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You're the booker, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Like I said, one third and it just happened. I
might be getting another one. But to just go back
and answer that real quick. So I was in my
school nothing to do, bro, like nothing at all. I
was bored school exactly. This is a hollow college. This
when I was in College Island. So yeah, I'm in
(13:11):
my room, Bro, I'm going Google. I'm like, I'm gonna
say basketball man, serious, like real serious, I'm gonna do wrestling.
I was gonna NBA D League tryouts, my basketball camp
to go to for like the Philadelphia, New York.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
What's back? All right? Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Then what really means it?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
He really means it.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Charl's Mason versus Carl Kwan is gonna be a card
as well. Yeah, that's Alexander versus Austin Luke.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
As he says a game, that's a game right there, Okay, huh.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And then you have a three Triple Threat Women's match
is the day of steel. My world in jen Kai.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
All right, Janey like j Kai ya tonight. I'm sorry
to Jani Kai. Yeah, miss deadly Feats, I've seen those
feet in action already.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
And shout out to uh pretty boy smooth as well
for getting number two A three on the p W
y as.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Well, that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I did my research.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Scott real workers on this Sunday, On this Sunday, work man,
real workers.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
All right, listen to the phone, bad.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Okay, but yeah, we get it to.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Get this going right. I looked up uh w W
Johnny Rods's what I trained, and I also looked at
the House of Glory. Now I was stuck between the two.
But the selling point for me was w W you
knowee what I'm saying Like I never like I didn't
know about anything on the W like I knew about
teen a later on, I didn't know about our wage
(14:42):
New Japan CML trip. I didn't know about nothing I
know about. I knew stone Cold, bro stone Cold when
King does this fire comes.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Out undertake up exactly?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, that's what I knew. Going to Johnny's, I was
there for a minute that's where he's got les.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, back this gym.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I went there and then you know, just pretty much
started out doing my thing and everything pandemic hit. So
I had to break out because I have to do that.
What's up? We want to say.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
A lot of kids, what's your car?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Here? You go?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
All right down, blessed, go ahead, put the mummy.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I love that little cameo, little cameo.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
You're gonna chill. You can stay if you chill, You're
gonna chill. So I did all of that, Bro, started
hitting the scene and whatnot, and eventually bring my way
to the house with glory Bro, like honestly, like there's
just a lot of hard work with s w F
to tighten and victors all these other places Bro. And
then oh.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I think we got to come back. Yeah, yeah, it's
all good.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
He'll come back. Yeah, now that we're.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Too many game right now.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
But this second live to you, I really mean it,
I really really mean it.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
We really mean it. He really means it. One third booker,
full time, Dad, full time.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
That one third booker that's back there.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
He is listen. Yeah, he's in the mix now.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So yeah, so you spoke about your trainer Hall of Famer.
What was the most valuable lesson he's taught you as
a trainer, Johnny outside the ring.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I'll never forget this. He was like, it's his two words,
his professional wrestling. Like it's not just the rest. You
have to be a professional in and off the ring.
So he's like, very very early. So it's like, no,
how to conduct yourself not a wrestling part? What eight minutes?
You got to be a professional? Four seven mm hmm.
You really broke that down to me, and we really
(16:51):
broke that down to me. I was like, all right,
that's something I only stuck.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
When you get the change to House of Glory exactly.
I don't know what's happened.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No, no, no, you can leave, you can leave it. It's just.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh what what exactly was the biggest switch from those
two schools for you?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, for a House of Glory, I kind of like
came in as like talent. I came in as talent.
You know, I didn't I didn't train there. I was
just fortunate enough to have a type of relationship with
Main Event. They were the first guys that really opened
that door. Yeah, bro, because I spoke to him. So
it's crazy enough we met through s w A. I
(17:36):
didn't even realize it was them at that time m hm,
but they remembered it and I met Ben routin Oh So.
So Ben was actually the reason why I got on
my first house at Glory Show. He called me, I'm
in the crib because the sixth Way's six days. Always
need somebody, Yeah, crib, bro ain't Call of Duty? Yeah, bro?
(17:58):
And he calls me. I'm like, like, what a bitch?
What you want? He's like, Yo, why got you all that?
I'm like, what you want? Bro? Why are you calling me?
He's like, yo, you in a crib. I'm like yeah,
He's like, Yo, get the house right now. I'm like
what He's like, Yo, Bro, get here right now. I'm like,
all right, I'm playing Call of Duty. I'm in the
middle of wards. I here, Bro, I gotta go. I
gotta get the hog quick. Got dressed. And this is
(18:19):
when I was this is when I was up in Yonkers.
So you know how the Metro North is, Bro, you got.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
To like every every every thirty minutes. Yeah, it's over.
I take every day still, Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I don't know, like if it was God, wherever the case,
it was, Bro, But like the train was coming in
like eight minutes, bro. So I had enough time right
there my bag, bro, and I was just gone, bro,
because you knew where I lived at, so you know
I was right there.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah yeah yeah, right next to the to the train.
So then you just that and then to the l R.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah bro. So I'm i'm I'm I'm on my phone
scrambling like like I knew where it was at, and
I'm like that E train's gonna smoke my mine. So
I'm just looking. I didn't know you go to you
go to forty second and down there and right there's
is great. So I get there, bro, first person I
see is Brian. I'm like, yo, Brian, You'll thank you
so much.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You like who. I'm like, that's the typical, that's typical Brian. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Who.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'm like, I'm like, yo ja. He's like I ain't
no one tell him nothing. Bro.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
It was like I remember this. I actually remember this day.
Yeah bro.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So I'm like, great, you're starting off. You're starting off
great right now.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Just went out there, did the sixth Way. It's really
really fun.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Then I got called back the next show, then the
next one, and the next one, and I think what
kind of helped me stay there was I remember Amazing
Rad telling me he was like you, you was out
there like you wanted to be there, like like he
was out there, like you wanted to prove something like
like you showed intent and desired and I wanted to.
I always want to be a House of Glory. You
ain't never know how to get there, Bro, It's.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Very hard, Yeah, to select you, It's.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Very very hard. And I'm wanting, like again, I'm very
select who's an outsider, who's a regular at this point, Bro,
I've two years now, I think it's.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Been Yeah, I remember, I remember exactly that fabling.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Bro, I'm going to the out of state shows. Bro,
you feel what I'm saying, Like I just put in
their work, so like all to that point where I
face Amazing Red in a singles matchup, Like not a
lot of people could say they even faced the Amazing Red,
but in a singles at that.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And let alone, Like you know, like you said, you
had that desire, you wanted, you wanted it, so you know,
you give reward. And that's I think another big thing
about House of Glory. You know, for the dudes that
they actually see put in the work you're gonna give rewarded.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And I've seen it. I've seen it first hand.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I mean Main Event was about to have the Hearty's
again for the second time.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Like you're gonna be wild.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
I can't wait, Like you know, So shout out main Event.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Man, not not, But like to go back to what
you're saying, how I got this. Shout out the main Event,
Shout out to Cashow, Kim Broway, shout out Ben, Charles Mason.
You know what I'm saying, Uh Ben? You know everybody
like I think I was saying it, like it's Charles
versus Quad. You know, that's that's my best friend. That's
my killer, best friend, so crazy, that's a I know,
(21:11):
real killer. I called Charlie but like you know, he
wanted to call him on that line, but I said,
fuck it, I know I gotta call him hand. You
know what I'm saying. So it was good and I
can't wait to see him, like cut him up. They
can bleed. I need violence, I need bud all that.
I'll be happy as a booker.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
I'll be happy, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So you know we talked about promotions. You actually did
a really good job in segueing the next question. Uh,
do you know how many promotions you worked for to
this point?
Speaker 3 (21:44):
That's a great question.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
No, maybe, like damn, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
My man got his book is stamped, all right, my
man is a worker.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I mean, I tell you, can I tell you what
my research shows me?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Please tell me the word.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
So, because we're in twenty twenty five, it says by
twenty twenty four you worked for over fifty promotions CCW,
H O, g MLW. People don't know this, J BUSI
was on AW AW. Yeah, wow, wow, baby, I does
my research?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Come on, yeah you locked in?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Locked in?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
I love that, Come on twin. When I fuck with you,
I fuck at you a long way. Yes, there is,
what are to you? The biggest difference is on the
locker rooms in those different promotions. Do you prefer the
more intimate or do you like the TV taping style?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I so, I like it really depends though, because like
my time and like so my time at AW in
the locker room. So I've been I've been at AW
a couple of times. I've only been on the screens,
but I've been there a couple of times. And then
I've done TNA as well.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
I was bad.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I did ww he wants right before mania. I think
the best locker room experience in MLW fro about that,
and that's locker experience I've had was TNA, just because
a lot of guys in there like are still on
the independence and like I have a relationship with them,
which gold, which goes a really long way because like
you don't feel as awkward or like you know, you
(23:20):
don't want to be a bother to any of them.
So that definitely helps when you have that relationship with
them and they pay attention to that, like they say,
like yo, like if you know people in here, like
get with them, can we talk to them?
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You?
Speaker 2 (23:31):
What's up? Like They're very open about them. Yeah, it
comes to like anything else, Like I love being at
Etu et is like my favorite locker room, bro Etu
House and Glory Room, Like those are two places where
like I'm chilling, what's up?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I know it's expected, It's a certain level comfort. I
was gonna also say so, I asked Castas. But throughout
your career, right, and you've seen a lot of different
kind of venues, different kind of locker rooms. What is
your favorite, baby I gotta, I gotta, I gotta ask
(24:06):
what is your favorite aspect of wrestling?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Like up to this point, what.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Is like, like what makes you like what makes the
job other than you know, obviously the making sure your
family's you know, taking care of and things like that,
what exactly is your favorite aspect of wrestling?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I think getting getting to see my boys, especially when
it's like been a while before you've seen them, like
that's definitely fine, or where you or when you get
to see people who's like out of state, like for example,
like I'm I'm excited to see Maya World bias and Philly,
what's wrong you? Okay? She want that milk?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, she's just getting hungry.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
I got my girl by the pull up. She good good?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Yeah, No, I haven't seen Maya World in mad long grow.
So like that's someone who I'm excited to see you
just to also be able to like yo, like you've
been killing it. You've been doing your thing, even to
Teri Yaki again, you fee what I'm saying. It's been
a minute, So.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Like those like callbacks to like you remember when we
were here and now yourself and also.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Like it was good bro, like you've been doing your thing,
like what's up. It's really one of those moments where
you could just give each other flowers. I think that's
that's like the best thing. And then like also just
knowing that you and the other person are are bigger
than which I were before, Like yeah, y'all you're grown,
Like you guys have grown so much since when you're
last seen each other. You really like talk about it.
So that's definitely fun.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
No, definitely, And uh, you you're you're one that deserves
their flowers, and that's what this podcast is for, is
to give people their flowers, because again I've seen the
first time I seen you was at h O G.
As soon as you walk through came through the energy,
I was like yeah with them And it's crazy because
(25:55):
you and and Sweet Cheeks Joy Silver one of the
first two people that I reached out to to interview,
and we spoke a minute ago about you know, just
this happening like this like doing this eventually, and it
took time because people scheduled and busy we have, you.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Know, but this is perfect. This is perfect.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
This is this is a beautiful podcast episode because you know,
we get to see the evolution that Jay bougie. We
get to see what's next coming this Sunday at Etu,
I really mean it, which is gonna be dope and
and I'm excited. And again you're the goat. You're keep
doing what you're doing. Bro, Like there's I'm just like
(26:36):
when I was doing my research, I'm like, damn, Like
this guy is really that nigga, Like he's really like
like you feel me like this this ain't no shindy,
no shindy wrestler here.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah you know me, you got some for me. My
thing is like I really wanted like take on all
like the heavy word, like I want to take on
as much as I can. So that way, like I
could build that platform. So people from Kingsbridge, people from Younger's,
people from all on, people from wherever, even when I
(27:10):
used to live out in Jersey City, Like if they
want to wrest you want to do this, they can
be like all right, boogie, laid the foundation. It's lit.
Like for example, Mike Santana, Bro, he just got Bro.
If you ever noticed in w W games or just
in general, they be like Yo from New York, New York,
from New York City, they said bronx Bro. They said
from Bronx, New York. It's heavy. I used to place
(27:31):
smack versus Ro. I have to put from New York
up Brooklyn doing that, Bro, like I didn't want to
do it. I'm from the Bronx. Bro. You feel me
the birthplace of hip hop Kingsbridge sent you ad Bro,
Like that's where I'm from. Bro. So it's like I
want to be able. So when it's time for the
next game and stuff, you has the Bronx. See they
said Bronx from bronxtill they got you gotta say the Bronx, Bro,
(27:52):
you gotta say the whole day. It was like that.
That's the type of time that I'm on, Bro, where
it's like I wanted to be when Jay Boogie is
in town. Feel me when whether it's R O H, A,
W W E T and or whatever, whenever we in.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
New York that hometown.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Feel you feel what I'm saying. When it's like when
when like when KD pulled up the Dykeman, or when
John just pulled up the Dykman over the summer, like
you with Somement, You're running over there, Bro, You're what's
up and slipping out. I want that same energy bro,
I feel like it's it's very uh similar to like
seeing punk is in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Yes, yeah, I's gonna say I think. I think when
you have something homegrown, it just feels more, you know,
like like me and Gabe actually are trying to orchestrate
a show for Yonkers. You know, it hasn't been a
younger show and god knows how long now, so you know,
and one that connects with you know, all shaded people,
you know what I mean. Like that's another thing too.
(28:43):
We kind of, like you said, we need these outlets
and we kind of need to be the beacon for
our people, you know, for the next you know, and
who's going to be the next Jabos because were gonna
need more of that, you know, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But like but more so, like I always in courage
people like you always say like who's the next, Who's
the next of this?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Someone?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like now you yeah, of course, like do you like
for me, there's only one you, and we need that.
We don't need another Boozie. You don't need another lane.
You don't need nah be you because like your own
uniqueness is what's gonna drive what's gonna elevate everything you
put in that time and you do it with with
a pure heart and pure intentions and something where it's
like now I want to grow and get back then Yeah,
(29:24):
like it's gonna be fied, bro, It's gonna be O
D fire. So like again, for me, that's just what
I want. I want to be able to all the
kids on the block. Bro. You feel I'm saying, Yo,
I want to wrestle. I don't gotta play ball. I
gotta do baseball, I gotta do football.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
We found my own thing. Yeah, you feel me.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't gotta don't got a gang bang, none of
that stuff.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Like I feel like there hasn't been like proper representation
of that side of it, you know what I'm saying,
where it's like, yeah, we got people from from somewhat
urban communities or something, or maybe they haven't, but their
story hasn't been told that way. Like for example, like
I got to I got to kick with Sydney A King.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh yeah, bro.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
He told me like his real story bro, Like he
was like I wanted to portray it a certain way,
but like they just wasn't rock with at that time.
We need more of that, bro. So it's like it's
good he's able to do his own thing like now
and how he does it. But just hearing his story
on the one to one and how he was chopping
up gave me his numbers, like you bro, hit me
up any time like that made me feel good because
(30:24):
I'm going in the right direction, you know what I'm saying.
Like my mindset is something where it's like okay, cool,
Like we're gonna get there.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's gonna take some time. Bro, It's definitely gonna take
some time, but like I'm open to it. I'm ready
for it, and uh yeah, let's just let's just rock out. Bro,
We're gonna have fun.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Then, No, I can't wait. I can't wait. Ja Buch,
you the man the rockets on your back. Like you said,
just keep going. The theme of today is keep going.
Like we told thvious cast, just keep going. That kid's
eighteen with straight a's four pointzing Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah and going come on, bro, and going and.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Doing top planches and then going to class on a
regular day.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
So he got classy starts and we see where she's
at and now.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
She's back speaking exactly right. Come on.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
The trajectory is in no Yeah, We're gonna, We're gonna,
We're gonna wrap this up. Jay Bougie, would you please
do the honors take us home with this promo? E tu,
I really mean to kill your naires club. The mic
is yours taking simple water. Go ahead, feel yo.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Great song by the way, love It has been on
my favorites for a while. Now listen, man, you already
know what talking up for about thirty minutes, the whole story. Yes,
I know what it is here he's eat you. I
really mean it. We got some of the finest restless
ever on the car. We got a bunch of bums
on the car. We got a bunch of people who
can't fight on the car. It's a car for everybody,
(31:48):
even so, even even for the kids, for the kids.
And you already know what's gonna happen. Who's gonna walk
in there? Last champs? Gonna walk out of there? Champions?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Never when's that gauntlet? Ye understanding that y'all can't fight.
It's already been proven, it's already been set. So understand
this one more thing to you. Sign if I asked
for just know that you're gonna get paid. You won't
get paid. You're gonna get to ask on the back
end too, exactly. It's big money, it's big bars, SEC Club.
(32:19):
Get with it or get loose.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Wise Worthy, the Man, the Myth, the Legend, Rox New
York's sister.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
All hats right now.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I gotta wear every single hat promoter.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
If you guys ain't here it all Episode dun Day,
September twenty eight, four pm at the Mecca ETU Presents
I Really mean It.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Cillionaire's Club Podcast Live will be there, live, gonna have
some reactions, gonna have a lot of footage in the
back there.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Listen. Me and Leonard locked in, Mike Santano be there,
Josh Bishop, so much talent, Killionaires will be there, Charles
Mason again. Like Ja Bougie said, it's a card for everybody.
There's bums, there's fighters, there's high flyers, everything you want
to see. It's a well put together card. J Bougie
number four oh one to.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
The p W.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I like, come on, guys, listen, listen. I don't I
don't talk a lot of shit on this podcast, but
Jay Boogie here, so I'm gonna talk some shit. Listen.
We talk about it, went bums, We interviewing.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Bus, like, come on, real work, real work.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
We got Jay Bougie, we got Tim Rivero, we got like,
come on, like we really you feel what I'm saying here,
Like this is the quality upset.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You ain't want to say no more.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You guys, they know what it is.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Just pull up on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Pull up and bring your fifty dollars and bring some
merch because you copping out your New World podcast. Leneal Cash,
Jay Bougie, the King of the Bronx, the Kings of
Young because we here, we outside, you're
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Cardiac Cowboys
The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.