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Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcometo the Shamrock sportscast. I'm Rowan Elbert.
Hopefully you know about that by now. If you don't, then I
don't blame you. I'm joined byCalie Sigler, welcome back. Also joining
us for the very first time,Matthew Myers. You may know him if
you watch the broadcast as our headcamera guy. How you doing, my

(00:28):
guy? I'm good, I'm good. How are you pretty solid? Drew
Taylor couldn't make it today. Walkhis cat He had to walk his cat
man through the excuses bro piling on. But it's a fun week here in
Indiana. Not only do we havea lot of great Westfield basketball, we

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got All Star weekend. It's goingto be hype. But now I want
to go back to the last gamefor Westfield basketball taking on University in eighty
five fifty two win, and itwas led by Trey Buchanan with twenty eight
points in tray just night in nightout. He has been putting on electric

(01:14):
performances. He had the thirty threepoint game. How many threes did he
have? Oh? Ohen the lastgame yeah against University. Oh, it
was just an unreal amount. Hehad not he had no six, he
had six, which is oh yeah, a lot more than that. Though,
that's crazy. I know it's he'sjust an unreal three point shooter.
But really, just in your guys'opinion, lately, he's been playing a

(01:38):
lot more aggressive because if you remember, like earlier in the year, he
had like, well like games withlike five points. Why do you think
he's playing a lot less passive now? Charles No, No, Trey oh
Tray. Uh. It could becausethey have Charles back. I don't know,
though I don't want to. Idon't know. That's I don't know.

(02:00):
I'm not that good at that kindof stuff. I mean all around,
maybe he's trying to give other peopleshots. I don't know. I
mean, we saw him not heatingup earlier on in the season. We
have a whole podcast when we weretalking about he needed to get heated up,
and I think he realized that hereally didn't. He's been getting there.

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I think my take on it ispretty much we're playing teams with good
big men, and not only that, guys who can block shots get rebounds.
And earlier in the year we wereplaying guys that teams that didn't really
have that and we were able touse nick book as like our primary weapon.

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But now Trey b Canon, Ifeel like he's starting to realize,
or maybe he already knew for surethat he has the reins to the team
and he can use it any wayhe truly wants within reason. So he
knows that for Westfield to keep winninggames, he's going to need to attempt

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like probably at least fifteen shots atnight. I think he knows that.
But if there are nights where he'llonly need to attempt like five or six
and they'll win. You know,that's what makes our team great. But
in the last game University, welost to them last year, double overtime.
Sabian Cain had forty points in thatgame or thirty six, My bad,

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he had thirty six. Then hetransferred. But University they also had
former Shamrock Max McComb and also anotherformer Shamrock Kinda he left an eighth grade
Super Cammick. Yeah, yeah,you knew him, right, Yeah.
I was friends with him. Iwas friends with him, yeah all through

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seventh, eighth grade, sixth grade. Yeah, so yeah you still are.
We'll keep in touch, but notthat much anymore, Like it'd be
like that man. Yeah like that. Yeah, but uh now just Macomb,
he got contained. He had thevery first three of the game,

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which made it a four to threegame, and then those are the only
points he scored. And not onlythat, Trey Buchan had twenty eight points
dropping on Max McComb. Just howembarrassing do you think that is? When
for your homecoming to come back tothat, that's that would that would not
be ideal If that happened to me. I would be like Audio some I'm

(04:33):
leaving, I'm not coming back.Yeah, you know, Trey knew who
he was, and Trey said,you're gonna miss Westfield after this game?
Oh yeah, I And I'll behonest with you, like the transfer portal.
Just in high school basketball in thelast year or two, it's gotten

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way out of hand in many ways, Like I guarantee like this kind of
like you know, just last offseason, guys like Cannon catching's going to overtime
elite and then you know like JalenHarrelson leaving, Fisher Sabine Kane, Jordan
Lomax, Max McComb, all theseguys leaving like Armani Middlebrooks. That would

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not have happened two or three yearsago. It's wild. What's going on
with the transferring in high school basketball? Oh? And of course how could
I forget nick book? I mean, but just why do you think there's
been uptick lately with transfers. Ithink it could be possibly coaches and then
players just not getting what they want. They're not getting to playing time they

(05:41):
want, Maybe the system doesn't workright within just things like that. So
maybe they have too many people atone position and that's the position they play,
and so then they're like, allright, screw this, I'm gonna
go to a different team, youknow. So yeah, things like that.
Yeah, I agree, every playerwants to be the best position,
and when you're fighting for that andor your coach is not seeing who you

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really are, it's really difficult.So going to that another school where you
get that opportunity can make a hugedifference in your career past high school.
Oh yeah, like McComb before heleft, he was averaging under a point
per game because he only was probablyaveraging about a minute per game. Yeah,
I mean, if he wants toplay at the next level, he

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wants to be a scholarship athlete,and I don't think he thought he could
get that here, and I don'tknow where do you think he would fit
in this current team if he hadnever left, I don't know where he
would be, really, I don'tknow where he would be in this rotation.
I think he'd be a backup atmost, Honestly, I don't.

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I don't see him being a starter. I like our starting lineup. It
fits really well, we play well. So yeah, right now Westfield has
a dynamic starting lineup, so Ican see him being a backup for sure,
But our starting is pretty solid rightnow. I do know one guy

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that if he left his current school, which I doubt he would, he's
got pretty much all he could everwant there, he would be an instant
starter over here. And that's FranklinCentral's E. J. Hazlitt. And
that's who we're going to talk aboutfor this Friday's game against Franklin Central,
the final conference matchup of the year. Westfield really good in conference play,

(07:34):
about four and two. Franklin Central, on the other hand, one in
five. I mean, how canwe capitalize on that? With it it's
a home game, right? Yeah? Yeah, I think with it being
a home game, us being fourand what two? Right, yeah,
for an ending opera then being oneand five. I see us, especially
with it being a home game.I think we have an advantage there with

(07:57):
home game being four and two andthen being one and five. And I
don't know how many of them we'rehome game home games for them, and
I don't how many Do you knowhow many we're home games for us?
Are those four and two? Outof those four and two? Yeah,
let's let's think we we are twoyeah, games are that we lost?
We're on the road? Yeah,the two yeah, yeah, which was

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Fisher's Brownsburg we beat. Yeah.We I think, oh, I think
half of them so far have beenon the road and half of them have
been at home. Okay, yeah, I think if that's the case,
we haven't lost at home. Yeah, So I think we got that w
you know. Oh yeah, sothat's being eleven at home. You know,

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we got that reputation. We're notwe don't want to lose, like
it's our house and we're not goingto lose it to Franklin Central. Yeah.
Oh yeah. And uh EJ haslit their top player eight sophomore,
averaging fifteen points per game on fiftyfour shooting has a couple off from Kent
State and Indiana State, which,by the way, Indiana State nationally ranked

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for the first time since nineteen seventynine. Talk about that. Yeah,
really good and really good. Yeah, sophomore, that's crazy, I know,
man, and he's only going toget better. Yeah, that's what's
crazy about it. Yeah, ifyou're a sophomore starting and you're the best
player on the team, that's that'sgood, you know. And let me

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like, obviously there are some exceptionswhere maybe you purposely go to a team
that's super bad, but you knowthey're not They're not like Westfield, but
they're not bad either, you know. Yeah, that they play in the
toughest conference exactly in the state ofIndiana in my opinion, Yeah, so
that's that's that's really good now,I mean, I mean, let's sake,

(09:50):
I mean, they've been at thebottom of that conference for a very
long time. Let's be real.I'm not being biased or anything. I'm
just saying the fact they've been nearthe bottom and a lot of things.
But just in your opinion, Cali, with this Franklin Central team, just
how much of a chip do youthink they have on their shoulder and how

(10:11):
can they execute and get a winagainst Westfield on the road in upset.
I mean they have a big chipon their shoulder coming to Westfield when they're
eleven and oh, you know,you've probably been preparing for him, you
know, Westfield going and destroying Universityafter having an ot last time when they
face. So if you're Franklin Central, you have to come out on fire,

(10:33):
but you have to stop nick Book. You basically have to stop the
starters and if you can do that, but you also have to have the
offense going with not just EJ doinghis thing. Yeah, I do want
to mention though Franklin Central they havelost four of their last five. They
just haven't been able to get anythinggoing. But that their last game against

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Cathedral, it wasn't too bad.They Cathedral wont probably not probably definitely one
of the top five teams in thestate and they held them within ten.
So you never you never know whatcan happen. But it could be some
competition possibly, but we'll see.But now for the game this Friday,

(11:18):
what's your biggest hot take. I'mgonna go Westfield is keeping EJ under ten
points. I think we'll go withprobably We'll say Charles has more points than
j Okay, Yeah, Charles iswhat like our third highest score or something
like that. Yeah. Yeah,so at Charles, I think he's actually
fourth. I think it's even betterthan Yeah, I think it's Trey Nick

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will Will Okay, and then thenCharles Charles's injury. Yeah, but also
Charles, he had a really goodscoring performance in the last game. Eleven
points. Yeah, glad he's backin the starting line. See the shoes
he was wearing. No, washearings? Weren't like the SpongeBob and Patrick?

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Oh really, he had like theSpongeBob on one foot, Patrick on
the other. I thought that wascool. I wonder if you did that
because of Super Bowl. Yeah,yeah, but no, I want to
move on talking about this Sunday.Not only will it be the NBA All
Star Game, but it will alsobe the sectional draw. We're gonna find

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out who Westfield will play, andI'm looking just I have it pulled up
here of all the teams that theycould possibly face, who would be the
most favorable in your opinion? Honestly, I kind of want to see us
go against HSC. I like theenvironment that we had against them as well

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when we played them. Here thatenvironment they hadn't they had They actually had
a crowd, like, they actuallyhad a student section and everything. It's
pretty packed. So I like thatgame a lot. I would say that
would probably be my number one teamalso because of my step brother goes there
and then I could, you know, bragged him that their team sucks and
their school sucks. So I thinkI'm a little biased towards that as well.

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Yeah, I'm gonna go with HSC. I want to see us go
again to them. This is whatI always say. Oh, I totally
agree. We beat them by liketwenty two. I mean, yeah,
why not. You know what I'mgonna kind of like last year Karmel.
I like Westfield and Karmel. Youknow the rivalries there and especially in sectionals.

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That's who you want. Mm hmmoh, I agree, And we
beat Carmel earlier in the year bylike ten. I think, Yeah,
the team I want to face veryunpopular opinion. I mean Zionsville a team
we already beat. That's one Icould totally see, you know, us
willing to get. They got MaguireMitchell, a guy who's really good.

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But I want Fishers. I wantthe top dog and the reason why.
The reason why is because the theteam I want the very least is Noblesville.
We already beat them, Yeah,but they were tough. Yeah,
but yeah, but my critique aboutit is it's very hard to beat the

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team twice. I mean, yeah, that's why I think we could get
the edge over Fishers. And likewith Noblesville, the sectionals at Noblesville,
I would yeah, so it wouldsuck. Yeah, like the sectionals at
Noblesville. So we would have ahuge disadvantage. Could you imagine that crowd
on just in a playoff atmosphere,It would be very hard to play in.

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I think, honestly, I thinkwe would lose if we went against
them, honestly against Noblesville. Yeah. So yeah, I don't want to
go against Noblesville, that's for sure. Because like in the NFL, like
you know how the divisions, howthey'll play each team twice. Yeah,
you very rarely see the one teamwin both games. It's always one in

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one. Usually the only way it'slike two and zero is maybe one of
the teams is super bad the otherteams like super good or something like that.
You very rarely see that. Yeah. So, and Noblesville did give
us a month or a run forour money that came. You know,
it was a tight game, andtheir crowd for just a normal home game
on a normal weekday was there.So just imagine a playoff game. I

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would not want to be West peopleplaying there. Yeah, oh, I
know. But keep in mind whenwe did beat Noblesville, we were shorthanded.
Charles. It was the first gameafter his injury. Yeah, but
that was I wouldn't call it shorthandedbecause really, will Will Harvey the guy
has been able to step up inso many ways, man, I mean,

(15:45):
come on, and unfortunately I knowCaleb Wise currently injured, but Will
Harvey currently in the starting five.It's worked quite well. Yeah, yeah,
it's worked really well. I likeit. Actually, like I kind
of like it more than having whyis in there. I mean, I
like the thing I like about itis it shouldn't work on paper, but

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it does. It does. Yeah, having three guards out there, you're
thinking, ooh, Caleb kind ofas adds that extra size factor. Yeah,
but then really Will he can theguy can rebound, he can box
out, he can play good defense. I mean yeah, I think part
of the thing is, especially wheneverwe don't go against teams that have big

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guys. I think that lineup isa okay, especially because Nick Book he
can handle those guys. So,like, what was what was that team
we went against? They were likeall guards basically, it was like two
games ago. It wasn't last homegame, but it was like the game
before or something like that. Itwas Hamilton Heights. I think it may
have been we like blew them outby like fifty something points something like that.

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Yeah, Hamilton Heights. Yeah,like against their team obviously they literally
did not have like a single bigman except for their center. But I'm
like, that's a super easy teamto beat no matter what. Probably,
but still so yeah, but no, moving on from basketball, let's talk

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about one of my favorite things todiscuss here, girls swimming coming off of
really, I mean, they justgoing back to the season they had and
they may going to state. Youhave your relay team, the two hundred

(17:32):
medley relay team. They did quitewell then Kate Cassidy in state having her
personal best time going nine seconds under. Actually, but in the end,
I mean, Carmel thirty eight yearsin a row. Could how is anyone
gonna beat Carmel? I don't know. I don't know much about swimming,

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so I don't know if I cantalk much about this, but I do
know that Karmel is usually really goodwith every sport. So yeah, you
know, when it comes to swimming, it's who can swim and who can
flip and turn the fastest. Yeah, so Carmel just I don't know what
they do. You know. Ihave a swimmer on my sports Man and

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she always says, Carmel, thereis no way you're beating them going in.
So Carmel's a tough team. Butkay, Cassidy, she did our
thing all season, Like that's abig congratulations to her. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean, just overall, Iwill say with Carmel, they're good
at pretty much everything when it comesto their history. Maybe not now,

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but their history. And really I'mnot gonna be like Tristan, who's out
here just like I hate Carmel everyweek. Yeah, I really don't hate
them because we've had their number.You know, I think we've gotten past
the whole little brother thing. Butwith swimming, I think that's just a
battle. We'll have to accept thatwe don't when maybe we can be the

(19:00):
very best second place, which Iknow it's kind of like a loser of
mentality, but you know it's hardto be the team that's won thirty eight
years in a row and they're shootingfor forty. Also, wrestling Semi State
didn't quite go our way. Theregional champion, Keegan Carson got eliminated.
Jake say as a guy who whoI think is really good, he got

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eliminated in round one. Yeah,I talked to Keegan in one of my
classes. He said he won hisfirst match, and I forget who else
was. He said, won theirfirst match, but then everybody else lost
their first match. Carter and Nickhamwas the other one who, Yeah,
first match, and he said,because of everybody else losing their first match,
there was no way. And thenhe lost his second match, he
said, and some people I thinkwon their second match, but I think

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majority of people so ended up losingtheir second match. So but just just
from that first match for everybody,just losing and just not the way to
go. So no, I nextyear, I guarantee ke one of the
at least one of the three ofKeegan Carson, Porter, Temples, and

(20:07):
Jake Says, will be in State. I guarantee. I mean Porter,
a guy who was there before.I could totally see Keegan doing it.
He's got the work ethic for sure. Yeah, and I've interviewed him before.
Just a great guy in general.And also Jake another guy who I
think just has the work ethic andthe drive to make it there. Yeah,

(20:30):
it's it's actually funny. Keegan duringclass would be like, yeah,
I can't eat anything today, Ihave to make weight. So he has
like this little like receased thing that'slike the size of my like nail for
my thumb or whatever, and hejust nibbles on that before classing at the
end class and just takes He'll eatlike three of those that day. And
that's like it, and so yeah, he he's definitely serious about it.

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Oh so that's for sure. Allright. Before we end our show,
I do want to talk about thisweekend, probably one of the biggest weekends
of the year for the state ofIndiana, All Star Weekend for the first
time since nineteen eighty five, comingyour way to Indianapolis. It's it's gonna

(21:18):
be fun. I'm really looking forwardto it. Yeah, But I think
the question here I have to ask, who do you think, in your
opinion, wins East or West cool. You know, I gotta go with
East because Tyres Heliburton. Oh yeah, he'll have that home court advantage.

(21:41):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, Soi gotta go with East. You know,
I feel like it's you know,kind of my home kind of team,
you could say there. Yeah.So as much as I like the
West, and you know, Iwant to see Lebron kerry and you know,
I'm excited to see that duo seehow they do, but I'm have
to go to the East. SoI'm also gonna have to agree. Yeah,

(22:03):
going with the East and maybe MVPHalliburton all Star love to see that.
Oh man, uh, I'm gonnahave to disagree here. I'm taking
the West the East. They're abit shorthanded. Joel Embiid not playing,
he's gonna be out for a coupleof months. Yeah, and then they've
got a lot of guards coming in, like Trey Young. I don't know

(22:26):
how he didn't get in initially,but he'll be a reserve. But then
like out West, but at thesame time, Kawhi Leonard in the West,
he's questionable. Lebron James he didn'tplay in the last game, but
I'm sure Lebron he'll find a wayto get into the All Star Game.
He would never miss an All Stargame. Come on, yeah, he'll

(22:47):
he'll figure out a way. Butyou know, a team is good when
you have Curry coming off of thebench. Yeah, come on, yeah,
Curry off the bench is actually crazy. Like when I all he was
on the start, I was like, what, like how it makes sense,
like with how Luca and Shay havebeen playing this year. Yeah,

(23:07):
yeah, I thought it was funnybecause they didn't name Curry a starter,
and then his next couple of gameshe does absolutely amazing and he's like,
should have should have put me asa starter, Like come on, now
you know so, yeah, Ithink that's going to do it here.
Anything left to add fun at theAll Star Game? Rowing, yeah,

(23:32):
have fun? Yeah that that costme a pretty penny. I told my
dad. He's like, what,You're crazy. I told him, like,
Jennifer Hudson's going to be there.He's like, that's fair. Are
you Are you going to just theAll Star Game? Are you going to
like the Media day anything like that. I'm going to the Saturday night took

(23:52):
like the dunk contests and see I'mgoing to the Media Day And that's school
I wish, I wish I couldgo to everything, but you know,
originally I wasn't even gonna go atall because I don't have the money to
pay for it. But none ofmy parents are gonna, you know,
neither my mom or dad. Noneof them really care about basketball. Like
that was warm my cousins and theirdad who likes basketball, and so he

(24:15):
ended up getting tickets for the mediaday stuff, which better than nothing.
Yeah, that's actually really cool.Yeah, so but yeah, we're gonna
go to the media day stuff.I think it's like, I think we're
leaving at like ten thirty, andthen I forget what time it starts exactly,
but I think it's like hour driveor something like that, which isn't
terrible as an ideal either, youcould say. And then I think it

(24:36):
ends at like three. Oh yeah, I mean that's really cool. Yeah,
I think that's going to do ithere, and yeah, he's
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