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June 26, 2025 47 mins
In this inspiring episode, Shawna and LaLa explore the deeper meaning behind the question: Are you hauling rocks or building a cathedral? They reflect on how sunny summer days have boosted their mental health and share powerful life lessons they wish they knew in their 20s, like following your dreams and proving naysayers wrong.The episode also features an exclusive interview with Elisa Gilbert, founder of Vivienne Charles Jewelry. Elisa shares her family’s four-generation legacy in jewelry-making, revealing how the craft and industry have evolved over the years. 
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