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February 5, 2025 41 mins
Shawna and LaLa are back, even with LaLa battling the flu. The Grammy Awards spark heated debates as Shawna and LaLa discuss Beyoncé’s unexpected win for Best Country Album and Kanye West’s wife’s Bianca Censori revealing ensemble. They also discuss the rise in plane crashes—coincidence or something more? Shawna’s conversation with Hal Elrod, author of The Miracle Morning, brings hope and perspective with his incredible story of triumph.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the heart of the city, where the beat meets
the rhythm of your day. It's Shawna m.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What's up. You're listening to Shauna and Laala. Check us
out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all social
media platforms at Shauna and Lalla. You could follow me
on social media on Instagram at the Real Shawna May.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And check me out at Bella Underscore Lala one two five.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
We may sound a little bit different, but that's because
I got a new computer. It was much needed.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I thought you were gonna say because I'm congested, but yeah,
the congestion versus and the computer is not gonna help
us out today.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You know, we're all I'm always congested because my darn
sinus is.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
But you had the flu yep, flubee. We got and
the kids started out with the kids, and then and
it went to me and now my husband has it.
So it just made its way through the house.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
I think it lasted longer though with the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, they Geo especially he was sick from last Saturday.
No not, the last Saturday was Saturday before and he's
still not doing well. So it's almost two weeks for him.
Juline is better. She has a cough, but me, yeah,
you know, I'm getting there. I'm just congested now. So yeah,
it's this year. They're saying the flu is just horrendous.

(01:30):
Everyone has it, the flu, pneumonia, RSV, and oh the
neuro virus Seana's dreaded enemy.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Oh my god. I am absolutely terrified of the neual virus.
I would rather have the flu a hundred times over
the neuro virus.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
I know, I don't know what i'd like. I hate
throwing up, obviously everyone does, but like I hate it.
My sister and my brother will make themselves throw up
when they're nauseous. I can't.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You know, they.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Don't want to, you know how the feeling of nausea,
like you hate it. It's like lingers. Yeah, so they
want to get it over with and they will gag
themselves and make themselves throw up. Me, on the other hand, like,
I don't want to throw up, so I even though
I hate being nauseous, I'll just lay there and just
suffer through it. So, but neural virus is usually over
in twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
This neurovirus, Well, how long is it lasting?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Some people it's lasting well, I've read, I've done a
lot of research. It could you when you have the
neuro virus, you are contagious for two weeks. Geez. Doesn't
mean you're actively throwing up for two weeks, but you
are contagious for two weeks. You could throw up from

(02:47):
you know, eight ten hours to like three days.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I see, Okay, Yeah, I don't know that that does
suck because it's like usually neural virus or a stomach
bug is twenty four to forty eight hours for me,
versus the flu, which I have for like two weeks,
you know, the congestion. I don't know. I don't know
what i'd picked. That's that's really tough.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh, I know what I would pay.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
I know, I know what you would pick too.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
My little cousin I felt so bad for her. She's
five years old. She first had the stomach bug. She
was sick from like I think my cousin said, like
a Saturday to a Tuesday throwing up.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Then they kept her home from school like that week
because she was just really sick.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Then the following week she got pneumonia, Oh my god,
and ended up in the hospital for three days. Now,
the whole family has pneumonia and flew bay.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
That sucks. That. That's just that's crazy because this and
the schools. I'm hearing the schools just have kids out
every day. My son told me the same thing, like
everyone's absent.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, my niece's preschool class the other day she had
eight kids out.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
My friend was telling me it is bad this year.
Oh my god. Well spring is coming, so hopefully it
soon will be done. I can't wait to air out
my house. Today's kind of nice, so I'll probably air
out the house when I get home or my husband
so much to tell them open all the windows.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Do you have your heat on?

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We shut it off when I do that, Okay, but
in the winter it's so important. Like other countries they
do this even when it's zero degrees they will open
the windows for at least thirty minutes and just get
that fresh air in because germs build up and dust
and just so many things like you have appliances going,
you have propane go. You know, it's really good to
air out the house. So I highly recommend doing it

(04:40):
at least once a month in the winter. Thirty minutes,
that's it. I thought, that was my friend, so we
talked about the flu.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
The plane crashes.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, and speaking of spring, you know, I cannot wait
to travel because I mean, I do like traveling more
in the winter just to get away from the cold.
But right now we have just trips booked in the spring,
so that's why I'm looking forward to it. But I'm
really nervous about flying. You see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes, I actually told my mom I will not be
flying anytime soon. We don't have any trips booked anyway.
But I'm not flying. I know, no way am I
getting on an airplane.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
What is going on? It's left and right issue after it,
even if they're not crashing. The plane went on fire
just the other day, or you think today or yesterday.
I was in Houston. The wing went on fire. Another
one had to make an emergency landing. They said, oh,
one of our engines blue. They were flying with one
engine and the pilot didn't want to freak everyone else.

(05:53):
We didn't tell anyone until they landed. I mean, that's
good better. I guess I wouldn't want to know either,
But if I would kind of one knows, I could
text my loved ones like, hey, I might die, you know.
I love you. Yeah, but people would have panicked.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Then Wait, was that that was Stewart, right?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I don't know. I think that was Stewart.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yes, I think that was local to Stewart. Geez, they
flew into Stewart, yeah, which is twenty minutes from here.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah. I was just there today this morning. That's where
my doctor was, right across the street and side story.
When I pulled out the doctor's office, you could see
the airfield and the airport. And I watched too many,
too many movies about corruption and terrorism. I swear there
was a man who had his car parked off the
road in the woods and he was standing in the

(06:42):
brush because you were at a high vantage point of
the airport, and he was filming with his cell phone
the airport. And I'm like, in my brain, you know,
my brain immediately goes Yeah. I pulled my phone out
and I started taking pictures of his license plate and him.
I'm like, oh, if anything's going down, I'll have this information,
you know, because it's a military airport too, it is.

(07:02):
You gotta be careful, I told my husband. He started laughing.
He's like, well, you could call it in. I'm like,
what am I gonna say. He's like, tell him what
you saw. I'm like, I feel stupid. He's like, then
why did you take the pictures? I'm like, well, if
anything goes down, I'm like, I have a license plane.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
And they're gonna say, why didn't you call it?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I know, I know, I just I don't know why
I feel stupid. But anyway, Yeah, these these air airplanes,
like they caught Kazakhstan. That airplane went down, crashed and
someone was filming it, and you see it made it.
It made it to the airport, and it was trying.

(07:38):
It was trying so hard to keep its elevation and
you saw the plane like free flying and then the
pilot would be able to control it. And then he
got to the landing strip, but he was coming too
hot and the whole thing just hit so hard it
explode it everyone died.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
And this is all within the last two weeks. We've
had so many instances. So what what's going on? That
planes are losing pressure? That's the other thing that's going
on is that turbulence is so bad. The plane's losing
pressure that it's kind of like free falling and people
are getting concussions, you know, because everyone's flying around the plane.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
That happened once to me.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, I remember you told us that story.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
And I was going to Saint Thomas. We've had to
fly from New York to Puerto Rico and then get
on a plane from Puerto Rico to Saint Thomas. And
it happened on the way to Puerto Rico. I have
never been so scared of my life, and from that trip,
like I think it scarred me because now I'm petrified. Yeah,
to go on a plane.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's it's I'm scared. I travel a lot and I'm
always scared. And that's all it takes is one time
with turbulence. Besides always being everyone's a little nervous with planes,
I think most people. But yeah, once you experience that,
it's it's never the same again. You're never the same.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
People were getting off the plane and kissing the ground.
I was just like, what is going on?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, like it was.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It was really scary.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I when it happened with me, I was pulled out
my rosary beads and I was like closing my eyes
praying the rosary, squeezing my husband and people were crying.
You heard people crying, screaming and it it is. It's
very scary. But right now I'm seeing a lot of
even steward I have a stewardess my friends, the stewardess,
I should say, and she is like afraid to even
go to work. She's like something, something's not right, something's

(09:20):
going on, Like what is going on?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
How is it all of a sudden in one week
all these plane crashes. The helicopter.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Oh god, that's weird that something something's up with that, right.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I just my heart breaks for that little girl.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh you're talking about the you're talking about the the
Metavac plane, right, yeah, yeah, that's sad. I don't know
how that happened either, like that just boom, my sister.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
I don't know it, just yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
That and then that the black Hawk helicopters what I
was talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yes, the helicopter. Sorry, I yeah, I got them all
mixed up. The helicopter. I think what happened was they
probably said do you see the plane and he said yes,
but there was another plane.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
But I yeah, that's what they first said. But when
you saw the different angle of it that the other plane,
he was heading straight at it. Like it was in
front of him. I mean, maybe it was a little higher,
but I don't know. It's just crazy to me. How
don't you see that the plane has big spotlights, you know,
big bright spotlights coming in and it could be it

(10:43):
could be innocent, but that's just They said the helicopter
was flying too high as is. She was supposed to
be two hundred feet at two hundred, like No. Two,
at the altitude of two hundred, she was I think
at four hundred or eight hundred, I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
So she was too high.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
She was too high, and they they're not allowed to
fly that high in that space. So was what was
the problem? Was she not trained enough? I know they
said she had some hours under her belt and she
was trained, but.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
She had five hundred hours, which to me, that is
not enough.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, I don't think it is enough. And but she
was doing training, so that's not a good place. I
don't think to do training with someone who's fairly new
at it, or even though it's five hundred hours. I
don't know the whole thing. I hope they investigate it
and figure out what went wrong there, because it's definitely
the helicopter's fault. Definitely. But yeah, it's not making traveling

(11:40):
exciting now because that's all I'm thinking of is I
have to go to Florida, I have to go to
a few places, and I'm gonna be paranoid the whole
trip of anything happening because it's not just other countries now,
it's American airlines. It's our own planes that are doing
this too.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, United, I think was United American and then whichever,
I don't know which one it was for Stewart, but.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, and a lot of planes are having finding issues
with My friend just went to Mexico and they had
to give her them a different plane, like deboard everyone
give them a different plane. They didn't tell them why.
And then today I just saw another one that someone said,
we've been sitting on the plane for two point five
hours on the runway and they said something's wrong on

(12:23):
our plane, and now they're telling us to deboard and
they're getting us a new plane. What's going on with
all the planes? Are they being hacked? Are there?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Are they?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Or are we just had a year where everything needs
to be replaced? I don't know, but that's that's not cool.
It's kind of scary.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
I don't know. My brain is just always thinking the worst.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I know, you know, I feel the same way. I'm
always like conspiracy theory exactly. So I guess we hopefully
it'll calm down. And now the good thing about it is,
I think that they're going to be more villagent, more vigilant,
more vigilant. The good thing about it is, I think

(13:03):
they're going to be more vigilant now with checking planes out,
making sure they're crossing their t's and dotting their eyes
and really inspecting these planes every before every flight, where
they might have got lazy in the past. So that's
the only good thing that can come from this, I think.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I hope So, I mean, you know, I hope that
they these airlines hire competent people.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, exactly. And you know, I'm gonna say something that
might piss people off, but I think a lot of
the issues came during COVID. I don't know if you remember,
but during COVID, they fired so many what's the word, oh,
my god, my brain, not professional experience. They fired so

(13:47):
many experienced pilots, stewardess and everything to the traffic air
traffic control because they wouldn't take the vaccine and we
lost so many pilots and every for them. So now
now these last few years, they've had to kind of
rush to get people in the field and their short staff,

(14:09):
and I blame that on the mandates. And now we're
left with people who are less experienced and or who
are exhausted because there's short staff. So people are working
a lot. I know pilots are. They're strict to how
many hours they can and stewardess, so that's different, but
everything else there, you know, they've fired so many people.
I don't even know the exact number. I'll have to

(14:30):
look it up, but it was insane. And I blame
that too. I don't I don't think that has helped
the situation at all. It's just there's just so much
craziness right now in the world. And you know, I
knew it was gonna happen soon as Donald Trump was elected.
My husband always said, I don't want Trump to get
in for the near fact of everything seems to just
go crazy when he's in. When he's in the seat,

(14:53):
you know, yeah, like people go crazy. Then all these
crazy things happened, COVID happened when he was there. It's like,
so he's like I don't want I don't want to
even deal with any of that, so, you know, kind
of brings the crazy look to our country. But hopefully
ourk gets in today. I'm so excited, you know, you

(15:13):
guys know I love him. That's I just I love
so much about him, and I'm praying that they confirm him.
It's been I've been messaging senators. I feel like a crazy,
crazy person, like you said that this morning, Yeah, calling senators,
messaging them because and I've never done that like this.
I will say something is that this election has really

(15:35):
opened my eyes to a lot that I didn't understand
in government. Like I didn't know about these confirmation hearings.
I never knew that. I thought a president picked who
he wanted and they just got in.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
So I now that I liked somebody like RFK. I
learned the process. So I did learn I feel, like,
you know, I'm proud of myself. I learned something about
the US government that I mean, I should probably should
have known this already, but I really never paid attention.
So now I've been watching the hearings and it's really
cool to see how that works. I mean, I kind
of think they're stupid, because you know, I think that

(16:08):
pretty much. They always vote, They usually the president's picks
usually get in on all sides, right.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, but I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh no, I'm nervous too for this one because RFK
is going against Big Pharma, and Big Pharma has a
lot of money and a lot of people in their pockets.
So that is my fear. But I am excited about that,
excited about everything getting better, like healthy. They just banned
red dye three. You know, that's pretty much his doing
in my eyes, because he's going after these companies and it's.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Not like it's in effects of today.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's in effect as of like seven years from.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Twenty twenty seven. So and that's ridiculous to me. And
you just think. I understand why they do it because
these companies have products that they paid money for. It's
sitting there. They need to use it, right, you need
to give them time to get new stuff and get
rid of the old product.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I would say throw it out.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
So but we're not talking about I mean, I don't
even know what to compare to, but we're talking about
something that they're saying causes cancer, and you're saying, Okay, yeah,
we this causes cancer, but we're gonna give you three
or four or five more years to poison the public,
and then we're gonna make you. Yeah, Dan, you gotta stop.

(17:22):
What freaking sense does that make? It's this is how disgusting,
and this should open everyone's eyes that they don't give
a crap about us. They don't, they do not care.
You're like, oh, yeah, closes cancer, all right, just feed
it to people for the next three years and then
we'll switch it out. No, like you said, it should
be in the garbage. It should be banned right now.

(17:44):
And it really pisses me off. So just gotta read
the labels.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
That's the most you can do protect yourself. If you
see diyes, just don't buy that. Don't buy it. If
you see something brightly colored, neon colored, don't buy it.
Don't feed it to your children because you're they don't
give a crap, but you have to give a crap
about yourself and what you're putting in your kids' bodies.
And it's it's really scary how much bad stuff is

(18:09):
in our food.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Did you see the Grammys?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
No, I didn't. I'm upset I didn't. I mean I
never watched that shit, but my my wife was on there, Shakira,
So I'm like, I would have watched that part at
least I didn't know because I don't follow it. But yeah, no,
I didn't watch it. Why.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I didn't even know that it was on until I
saw like some of the posts on Facebook. And I
just gotta say, Beyonce one Country Artist of the Year.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
What yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I mean, yeah, she came out with those couple country songs, but.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Why I only know, like the one that she came
out with.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
She had like a couple but still it doesn't make
it a country artist.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
No, I'm disgusted.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I'm thinking they did it on purpose because she never
wins things, right Zoe's.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Oh, I don't know if she never wins things.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Well, I remember, wasn't that the whole Taylor Swift and
Kanye West thing that Taylor Swift won over Beyonce and
Kanyie went up there and was like, oh, maybe Beyonce
should have won, you know, like he took the mic
from her.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah yeah, well, Taylor, I guess gave the award out.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Oh god, Well, there you go. They're like, we gotta
give her something. Listen. I like Beyonce. I know you
hate well you don't like her music.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Oh no, I like her music. Let me rephrase that.
I like her as a solo R and B artist. Yeah,
I do not like her. I think she's overrated. I
I just I think that. I don't think she's humble
and I think she expects it. I just I don't
like her personality. She does do a lot of make

(19:53):
a wish grants. Okay, so I do like that about her.
But yeah, I just I don't like her.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I could see that. You know. I grew up with
Destiny's Child as you did too, and I was obsessed
with them. I liked when she went soul. She had
some good, good, you know music that made me want
to dance. I loved it. But her country stuff, no, no, no,
like why why? And I don't care. Like every artist
can branch out, you know, but I don't think she

(20:23):
should win like a country award for that. It could
be like, oh, you know, cool, you branched out, But
she shouldn't win Best Country Album.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
No, no, not at all. That's just like if that's
a slap in the face to every other country artist.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, that's like if who's a good country artist like that?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
You like Morgan Wallen, He's a very big country artist.
My cousin went to see him and said a lot
of money for his tickets.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
So let's say he comes out with three rap songs, right,
and he does three rap songs. He's not a rapper,
but he puts out three rap songs. They're kind of catchy.
But and he wins Best Rap Album of the Year. Like,
they would be in an uproar too, they'd be like what.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Like no, you know, they'd be protesting.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, it would be like, oh, so that's that's all
she could say. Oh she had a good song, best
song in the year, whatever you want to say, But
best country album, I don't. I don't think so. Definitely not.
That's not her like genre.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
No, absolutely not. I think it was set up personally.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, yeah, I know they didn't want her to win stuff,
so it was kind of like, well you can't, you
can't win in your category, let's move you over here.
I don't know, I don't know talented, so I don't
know what the problem is. But yeah, ah, I didn't
watch any of it. I know there was a lot
of drama with Kanye West's wife. She was pretty practically naked.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
She was naked. I mean she had like the stee
through I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
What your nude thing on, and she planned it. I
watched her. She had a big fur jacket over it,
and then as they were taking pictures of her, she
put her back to the cameras and then slowly let
the jacket fall and I was like, oh my god.
And she was naked. Yep. And Kanye loves it. I
guess he likes the attention because he wrote today on
his Instagram or Twitter he said, my wife is the

(22:08):
most googled name on Earth right now. And I'm she
probably is because everyone's like, either if you didn't see it,
you want to see it.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
People are probably like who is she? I don't even
know who she is.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yes, she's weird. I don't know much about her, but
she he always she's always pretty much naked, and usually
she's on a leash like he walks her. She's very
very odd. It's a there. I mean, he's odd, but
she's really weird.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Trafficking.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Oh god, I don't know. The whole celeb world needs
to be They need to be drained. That swamp needs
to be drained quickly, really quickly.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
On the phone right now, we have hal Al Rod
and I met him at the real estate conference that
I went to with my mom in Orlando, and that
was prior to me getting sick. The rest of the
trip was absolutely horrible. I had like food poisoning or something.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah, it was not good. But I have to say
the highlight of the trip was when you were up
on stage speaking to everybody. You know, I could relate
to it, my mom could relate to it. And so
basically you were on stage talking about your book Miracle
Morning and you and the experiences that you have gone

(23:30):
through and you actually were in a car accident when
you were twenty years old and you were critically injured.
You died on site there and they brought you back
to life. Like what was that experience like for you?

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah, it was surreal to say the least. And by
the way, Seana, thanks for having me on today. I'm
really honored to be on with you. I was driving
home from giving a speech at a a Cutcoast sales conference.
I was a cutcost sales rep. And after my speech,
driving home. My Ford Mustang, which I just bought three

(24:09):
weeks prior, was like my pride and joy, my first
new car I had bought with my own money, and
driving home that night, I was hit head on by
a drunk driver at roughly seventy miles per hour, and
then if that wasn't enough, my car spun off the
drunk driver and the car behind me crashed into my
driver's side door directly into my door just to the

(24:30):
left of my left arm, at seventy miles per hour
and completely crushed the left side of my body, breaking
eleven bones, my leg broken half, my pelvis broken three places,
my arm broken two pieces, and I began losing a
lot of blood. And that night I actually bled to death.
Took they couldn't get me out of the car. I

(24:51):
was trapped and they had to use the jaws of
life to cut me out of the car. And when
they finally were able to get me out, which was
almost an hour later, I had let out and my
heart stopped and I was clinically dead with no heartbeat
for approximately six minutes on the side of the freeway.
They air lifted me in a helicopter to the hospital.

(25:12):
I spent six days in a coma, and when I
came out of the coma six days later, I was
told by doctors that I had permanent brain damage, that
I had broken eleven bones, and that I would never
walk again. And facing that reality, it's just it doesn't
even seem real. It's unimaginable. And thankfully I had learned

(25:33):
something a year and a half prior in my cutcost
sales training that enabled me to get through the car accident,
the mental and emotional side, and eventually the physical side.
My manager, my mentor at Cutco, taught me the five
minute rule. And this for anybody listening, really tune in
for this, because this has been life changing for me.

(25:57):
The five minute rule states when something goes wrong in life,
and it could be something small, like you get bad
news or disappointment, or or you're stuck in traffic, but
anything that would cause you to feel some sort of
emotional pain. You're upset, you're sad, you're scared, you're angry,
you're frustrated, or it could be major, like being told

(26:17):
you're never going to walk again, or being diagnosed with cancer,
or going through a divorce or losing a loved one.
I was taught the five minute roem, which says it's
okay to be negative, but set a time limit on it.
And we were taught to set the timer for five
minutes on our phone and give yourself five minutes to
feel your emotions fully. You know, feel sad, scared, upset,

(26:40):
whatever comes up for you. But when the timer goes
off after five minutes, I was taught, you say, three
very liberating words, can't change it. It's an acknowledgment that
I can't change what happened five minutes ago. So there's
no value in feeling sorry for myself. There's no value
in wishing it to happen. In fact, all of the

(27:02):
pain we feel is perpetuated by our resistance to reality.
It's our wishing and wanting that it were different when
it can't be different. You can't go back in time
five minutes and change it. So I had practiced the
five minute rule for a year and a half and
I realized, wow, I might need more than five minutes.
Give me five days on this one, but I need

(27:25):
to get to the place where I can say I
can't change it. I was in a car accident. I
broke eleven bones, and if I never walk again and
I'm in a wheelchair the rest of my life, I
can choose to be at peace with that, and I
can even choose to be the happiest, most grateful person
that you've ever seen in a wheelchair. And that was
the choice that I made. And by choosing to accept
the worst case scenario that I might be in a

(27:46):
wheelchair the rest of my life and never walk again,
I wasn't afraid of it anymore. I was totally at
peace with it. And then I focused all my energy.
I prayed that I would walk again. I visualized walking
in while simultaneously accepting if I didn't. And I don't
think it's a coincidence, Shauna. But two weeks after I
came out of the coma, three weeks after I was

(28:07):
found dead at the scene, the doctors came in with
X rays and they said, we don't how to explain this,
but your body is healing so remarkably fast. They were
going to let you take your first step tomorrow in therapy,
And that day I took my first step, and I
left the hospital a month later with a walker, and
eventually went on to be able to run a marathon
and all of that I believe is because I was

(28:29):
willing to accept the worst case scenario and be at
peace with it, and then focus all of my energy
on the best case scenario and visualizing it and affirming
it and having unwavering faith that it would come to be,
and then it did.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
How long were you in the hospital for?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I was in the hospital. They thought I'd be in
for six to twelve months, and I was in for
seven weeks, so a little or two months.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Oh wow, So you really recovered fast.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, I mean, and it was, you know, call it
a miracle if you will, but yeah, it was. It
was really a pretty extraordinary recovery.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, I would say so. And so what made you
want to write the Miracle Morning Book? So how'd that
come up? That was?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
That was nine years later, nine years after the car accident.
In two thousand and eight, the US economy crashed and
I was I had my own business at the time.
I was a coach, like a business coach, I coached
other entrepreneurs and salespeople and business owners. And when the
economy crashed, I lost over half of my clients in

(29:35):
a matter of months, which meant I lost over half
of my income and I was not making enough money
to live off of half of my income. And so
I had just bought my first house a year before,
and I had to stop paying the mortgage, and then
the bank took my house away. I started living on
credit cards and going deep into debt. My credit score
plummeted from eight hundred to five hundred, and I got

(29:58):
really depressed and really scared and really hopeless. And a
friend of mine sent me a Jim Ron audio and
Jim Ron in his audio set, your level of success
will seldom exceed your level of personal development. A moment
I realized, if I want level ten success in my
life on a scale of one to ten, if I

(30:19):
want my health, happiness, income, you name it to be
at a level ten, I need a daily personal development
ritual that enables me to become the level ten version
of myself by getting better every day, better learning, growing,
evolving and stealing better habits, becoming more capable. And I

(30:42):
need to become that better version of myself every day
to be the level ten version who is capable of
creating the success that I want in my life. And
so I assembled the sixth most timeless, proven personal development
practices into a daily morning routine. Even though I never
thought I could be a morning person. I tried this

(31:03):
and within two months, shawna in the worst economy of
my life. The Great Recession is they called in two
thousand and eight. Two months of doing my morning routine,
I more than doubled my income. The economy did not
get better, it got worse. And I went to my
wife and I said, sweetheart, I just signed on two

(31:23):
coaching clients today. We've doubled our income since I started
this morning routine. It feels like a miracle, and she
goes without hesitation, it goes. It's your miracle morning. I said, yeah,
miracle morning. I like that, and I started writing my schedule,
but I never thought it would be a book. I
just started teaching it to my coaching clients, and one
by one by one, they started implementing the Miracle Morning

(31:44):
and having extraordinary results in their lives and their businesses
and their relationships. And that's when I decided, if this
changed my life and I wasn't a morning person, and
most of my clients weren't morning people, and it's changing
their lives, I have a responsibility to share the Miracle
Morning with the world. If you will, and I started

(32:05):
writing the book and and so it wasn't because I
wanted to be an author write a book. It was
because I felt it was my responsibility to share this
miracle morning routine that had changed my life and everyone's
life who I had taught it to. But I never
imagined that, you know, this book would sell millions of
copies and transform millions in people's lives. That was I
never thought that big. But that's what's happened. And now

(32:27):
it's it's my mission in life to share the miracle
morning with as many people as I possibly can.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
And that is where you came up with the acronym
savers am. I correct.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Yeah. When I was writing the book, I had these
six practices written down, but there was no acronym. There
was no way to there was no way to cohesively
connect the practices. And I saw my wife one day.
I was, I had writer's block, and I was. I
walked out of my office out of frustration, and she

(32:59):
saw me, and she goes, what's wrong, sweetie. I said,
I don't know. I don't know how to write this
book right now. I said, I've got these six practices,
but you know they're not I didn't make them up,
and I don't know how to like make them connected
and memorable. And she goes, why don't you get a
thesaurus and see if you can find different words, you know,

(33:21):
synonyms for the words that you're using, and organize them
into an afronym that people can remember. And I thought,
what a brilliant idea, and I gave her a kiss.
I said thank you, and I went back into my office,
and meditation became silence, the first s in savers, and
journaling became describing the final s in savers. And then

(33:47):
the A, V, E, D R stayed the same. It
was A for affirmations, V for visualization, E for exercise,
R for reading, So you got S for silence, A
for affirmations, visualation, exercise, reading, and scribing. And the savers
were born. And I now refer to my wife as
my muse because that acronym. I don't believe the Miracle

(34:11):
Morning would have reached the people that it have the
amount of people if not for that acronym. Because whenever
I meet people, they refer to their savers as much,
if not more than their Miracle Morning. They go, how
I read your book, and now I do the savers
every day, and it's easy because I can just check
it off in my head. Okay, silence, Okay, did the
meditation and the prayer. Now, affirmations, okay, I did that.

(34:34):
Now visualization. It makes it easy and memorable. And the
last thing I'll say on that, Shauna is the Miracle
mourning does not have to be done at any specific time.
You don't have to wake up at five am. You
could just wake up ten, fifteen, twenty minutes or thirty
minutes earlier than you normally would. And you can go
through your savers and you can do them in any order.

(34:56):
There's an entire chapter in the Miracle Morning Book that
walks you through how to customize the savers in terms
of the duration, in terms of the order, and what
you do during each of your savers to completely fit
your lifestyle and help you achieve your goals and create
the life that you want. So it's completely customizable for

(35:18):
each person.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
That's awesome, And I do do some of them. I
do do the affirmations and visualizations. I do like to
make vision boards, so that's kind of like how I visualize,
Like I put it out on like boards for you
know what I want. I mean, it hasn't worked yet
for me, but I think, you know, down the road,

(35:42):
I think I need to give it more time.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Well let me ask you. So tell me again which
savers you're doing?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
So I do the affirmations. I always wake up and
I say, like, it's gonna be a good day. You know,
I have really bad anxiety, so I always say like,
it's gonna be right, It's gonna be a good day.
You know, don't like reelm yourself. So like I say
that to myself every day. And then I like to
make vision boards. I don't do it every day obviously,

(36:07):
but yeah, yeah, I do like to make vision boards.
And you know, I make it for like three months,
six months a year, and I mean it hasn't come
true yet, you know, the things haven't come true yet.
But I have to give it more time, you know.
But uh, it's hard, It's it's really hard. But I
do believe in making vision boards and you know, talking

(36:29):
to yourself positively, because the more negative you are, the
more anxiety and the more stress you put your body through.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, no, I agree. Here are you? Are you reading
any personal development books yet?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
I'm not?

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Okay, So that's crucial. And let me explain. So the
the miracle morning, when I started doing the savers, uh,
I my my main was I was in debt. I
wasn't making money to pay the bills, so I needed
to make more money. Now, if I would have only

(37:08):
done my affirmations and my visualization and even the other
savers without the reading part, it wouldn't have made a difference.
And here's why I needed to make more money. Well,
what I was doing for the last six months is
I was losing money obviously wasn't working. So I had
to learn how to make money, how to grow my business,

(37:30):
how to get more clients from someone who knew how
to do that. So I googled what's the best book
on getting more clients? Because I was a coach and
I had, you know that I needed clients to make money.
And I came across a book called Book Yourself Solid
by Michael Port and I ordered that book on day
one of my miracle morning. So it was reading that

(37:53):
book that gave me the specific strategies that I needed
and the techniques and the techs in order to get clients.
Then I would take the highlights from that book and
I would incorporate them in my affirmations so that I
would remember them and read them every single day. So

(38:14):
if it wasn't for having that book, I wouldn't have
known what I needed to do differently to achieve my
goal of doubling my income in those two months, and
any goals that we have in our life. If you
want to improve your anxiety, shaunak, there are a lot
of great books on how to do that and so,

(38:35):
and of course there's also you could also watch YouTube
videos listen to podcasts. The difference between reading a book
and let's say, googling an article or you know, listening
to a podcast or watching a video on YouTube is
the length of time that you spend with it. Right,
if you were to google an article how to get
over anxiety, you might be able to read that article

(38:57):
in five minutes and now you're on with the rest
of your life and you might forget it. But if
you buy a book on how to overcome anxiety, well
that might take you three, four, five, six weeks to read.
Now instead of spending five minutes with that article, you're
spending a month or more with the knowledge and the

(39:18):
strategies and the stories from someone who has spent maybe
years or an entire lifetime learning how to achieve the
result that you want in your life, and now you're
going deep with that author and they're helping you get
where you want to go. So I would advise that
that might be the missing component for you. That when

(39:40):
you add that in and then you support it with
your silence and your affirmations and your visualization and you're
describing your journaling your exercise, that's going to make all
the difference.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Well, I'm definitely going to try it, and I'm definitely
going to order your book. You know, I'll have to
keep you updated and let you know how it's working.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, I want to know, Sean, because I just I
loved meeting you. You're such an inspiration and I definitely
want to see the miracle morning work in your life.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yes, me too. And you don't have to do it
in the morning, so people like me, I'm not a
morning person, but yeah, I'm more of like a night owl.
But yeah, you don't have to do it in the morning.
You could do it when you want to.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, you can do the savers any time of the
day and it's going to benefit you.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well, thank you. How so much for calling in everyone.
Check out his book, Miracle Morning, And what is your
website and where can our listeners find your book?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, Miracle Morning dot com is the best place for
all things Miracle Morning. You can watch the movie there
or you can go to YouTube. By the way, there
is a Miracle Morning movie, which is a great way
to see how it's transforming those lives and learn it
for yourself. You can buy the book on Amazon. You
can download the app in the App Store the Google
play Store and it's free to download. And then if

(41:00):
you want to do the premium version, there's a seven
day free trial for that. But Miracle Morning dot com
is the hub for everything. So if you go to
Miracle Morning dot com, you can access the app from there,
you can access the movie from there, you can access
the book from there and get a lot of free resources.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Awesome. Thank you so much for calling in today.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Thank you so much, Shauna, and keep inspiring people.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
That's the show for today. Thank you so much for listening.
You're listening to Shauna and Lala. Check us out at
Shaunaanlala dot com on all social media platforms at Shauna
and Laala. You could follow me on Instagram at the
real Shauna May.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
And check me out at Bella Underscore Laala one, two five.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
We will see you next week.
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