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August 28, 2025 39 mins
In part two of our Nashville adventure, hosts Shawna and LaLa dive deeper into the city's vibrant culture, from luxurious stays to unforgettable nights out.First, they check into the stylish Holston House Hotel Nashville, an Art Deco masterpiece in the heart of downtown Nashville. They explore why this Nashville hotel is a standout, offering a blend of historic charm and modern luxury with its rooftop pool and prime location near all the major attractions.  Next, it's time for some friendly competition! The duo heads to Puttshack Nashville for a unique night of high-tech mini-golf, incredible food, and delicious cocktails. They'll give you the inside scoop on this elevated Nashville mini-golf experience and the delicious bites that make it the ultimate night out.  The episode also features an exclusive interview with rising singer-songwriter Mary-Clair. The Nashville native shares her journey, the story behind her debut album Enough, and her unique sound that blends contemporary pop with her faith-based influences, making her a compelling voice in the Nashville music scene.Finally, Shawna and LaLa take you inside Nashville Underground, the iconic bar and restaurant owned by brothers Gavin and Joey DeGraw. They explore the six floor venue, famous for its rooftop views, live music, and authentic honky-tonk atmosphere, giving you a true taste of Nashville nightlife.  Whether you're planning a trip or just dreaming of one, this episode is your ultimate guide to the best of Nashville travel, Nashville restaurants, and entertainment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the heart of the city, where the beat meets
the rhythm of your day.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Shauna m.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
What's up.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
You're listening to Shauna and Lalla. Check us out at
Shauna and La La dot com on all social media platforms.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
At Shauna and La La.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
You could follow me on Instagram at the real Shawna
May and check.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Me out at Bella on the score La La one
two five.

Speaker 4 (00:32):
We are back. It is the second half of our
Nashville segment, and just before we begin, I cannot believe
that summer is over and school is beginning.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, of course it's depressing, but it's it's just extra
depressing for some reason this year, because I really felt
that our summer went so fast. Maybe it's because we
had so much going on. We had Nashville right away,
you know, like the end of summer I went away,
and like I didn't really get to just enjoy summer.
This year, I feel like it went by really fast.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
The weather pretty much was good, you know, but we
did have like some cool summer days, rain rainy, rainy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
So maybe that's why, because I think the whole month
of June and half of July was just rain so
that's probably why it feels a little short or toss.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah. So is Geo ready for seventh grade?

Speaker 1 (01:25):
No, I feel like we're still behind this year too.
I haven't finished school shopping for him. He hasn't gotten
his hair cut, so that's tomorrow. And tomorrow we're just
doing all the things, all the things from morning. He
has a dentist appointment, then we have a hair appointment,
then we're gonna go shopping and we're gonna try and
find shoes. Hopefully I can get it done because that's
the only day I have till you know. He starts

(01:46):
school next week, so not much time.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
No, not at all. It's crazy, just flies by.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I know. The only things I did get done was
I got his school supply list, and I got that
old taking care of early and some snacks for his
lunch box. And I love. I just wanted to share
with you guys.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
I love.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It's called Nature's Bakery. I have to admit I ate already.
I had like six boxes in them, and I've already
ate two boxes and that that was supposed to be
saved for my son. They're so good, like the fig ones.
I used to like Fig Newtons. I know, that's odd
for a kid to say. But when I was a kid,

(02:26):
I liked fig Newts.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Oh they are the most disgusting thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
They I don't know. My grandma always had them because
old people always had them, Yeah, and I would. She
didn't have any other cookies, and I was like, ooh,
I want one, and I liked it. So these were
fig Newtons on steroids.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
But flavorful.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like they're just so much better,
you know, like, oh, they're so much better. Soone they
the flavor is amazing, just even the texture of it.
So I have been like here and there because there
are these little packs. They're not over indulgent. There are
these little packs they have and I'm like, oh, I'll
just have one, and then the next day I'm like, oh,

(03:06):
I'll have another one. Oh that's you know, I'm running late.
It's a great thing to grab in the morning when
i'm running. Yeah, I didn't eat breakfast because they give
you energy. There's you know, good stuff in it. So
I grab one and then now I look and I'm like,
oh my god, I just went through two boxes, two boxes,
the blueberry and the strawberry. And now I open the
raspberry box, so I better stop. But they also had

(03:29):
the oatmeal crumble ap. They have apple, they have blueberry,
and they have these hardy bars. They have so many
different flavor options and different They don't just have the
fig new and so you probably would like the crumble.
It's like kind of like the crumble.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
I did try the They had a chocolate chip one
m hm. And you know me and chocolate chip.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, I liked it. It's good. They're really good on
the go. I love it.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
They're fantastic. Like I just grab them and go to
the doctors, you know. M hm.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
I keep a ziplock of some of them in my car,
And you know, I'm always on the road. I'm always hungry.
I get angry very easily, and I grab one of
those and I'm good. It holds me over, you know,
and I don't worry about any horrible shit. You know.
They are they don't have high fruit toast, corn syrup
and them a lot of them are plant based. And
they're school friendly. That's the other thing, and that's important

(04:21):
nowadays with all these allergies the kids have, you know,
the allergies that dairy allergies. They're school friendly. So and
they're you know, a lot of them are vegans, so
they a lot of people can have them without having
to worry.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, that's great. And they're perfect for traveling.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah. They sit in my center console and ziploc bag
so I can pick them as I go.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
So we have a great show this week for you.
We have a great interview with Mary Claire that we
did with her h in Nashville. And then we have
Mike who is the manager of the hotel that we
were staying at, Holston House, which is like right in
this under everything.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Guys, let me tell you about this hotel. It was
absolutely perfectly located. I don't think you could have had
a better location for a hotel in downtown Nashville. And
why I say that is that when you go away
and this is a party town, like we said in
the last episode, party town, right in that little strip,

(05:22):
when you go a yeah, you want to party, you
want to have fun, but you want to get away
from that when you go back to the hotel, so
you can relax and recoup from your nights on the strip,
you know.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So this hotel was right there around the corner of Broadway,
which is the main strip, and it's not that far.
So you walk down a few steps past the hotel,
you get to the corner and it's just quiet, and
you look down and it's still a little quiet, and
as you take a few more steps and you look
over the hill, there's the strip right there. So I

(05:53):
was going. It literally would take me about walking maybe
three minutes from the hotel to get down to the strip.
It was fast, but yet you wouldn't. You didn't know
you were right in the center of all that. You
didn't hear anything, you didn't see anything. It wasn't crazy
or dangerous by the hotel, and that's why I loved it.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah, it was almost like a switch, you know. You
you just turned the corner and boom, Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
There it is. There's thousands of people and the music
and the lights and everything going on. And you wouldn't
have known that just a few steps back by your
by our hotel, the Holston House.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
No, you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I liked that. I felt safe. I you know,
I want fresh air. Sometimes i'd go up front of
the hotel. It was a very safe area, very clean area.
They clean those streets multiple times a day. I loved
that too.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
I didn't even see the like pay attention to them
cleaning the streets. Yeah, but the hotel itself was just gorgeous.
You could eat off the floors if you had.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
To, mm hmm, so clean. Everything was just so. The
way they decorated made it feel because sometimes hotels can
feel kind of cold or too modern that you don't
feel you don't get that feeling.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
No, this had like Southern charm to its comfort.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
The colors, the couches, they had so much room for
you to just chill out in the lobby and comfy couches.
It wasn't modern, it wasn't cold. They didn't feel like
a hospital setting type. Some hotels feel like that to me.
I liked that about it. It just had the charm,
like showing to say, a Southern charm. They had a
bar upstairs, beautiful bar which we had meetings there with people.

(07:27):
Had a pool bar which we talked about the last segment.
Gorgeous pool bar, gorgeous rooftop pool with lot you know,
the lounge area over there too.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
And they had singers come like almost every night. They
had like different people lined up to sing and perform.
The hotel was extremely a handicap accessible, yes, which to
me is a plus.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Of course it always is when we travel having disabilities.
You want to make sure am I going to be
able to get to my room? Okay? Are there going
to be a million stairs or their elevators or is
this accessible in the room? Even the beds like these
are things that many people don't have to wonder about,
you know, being a short stature, can you get on

(08:10):
a hotel bed?

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Can you know?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Can you get to the sink? So this hotel was
perfect for anyone who has a disability or his handicap.
It had it was you were able to do anything
you needed to do.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, I didn't need a step stool for anything, No,
especially getting on the bed. Usually when I stay at hotels,
I need like a step stool or a chair to
get on the bed. I didn't need that this time,
which was great. And also the pool was handicap accessible,
which I've never seen in a hotel before, and I
mentioned that to the manager that we interviewed. They had

(08:43):
a pool chair for somebody in a wheelchair so that
they could actually enjoy the pool as well. Yes, and
I have never seen that in a hotel.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
It's rare. I've seen it a handful of times, but
not many. Not many hotels have had that that I've
gone to. Anyway, I thought that was really cool too. Yeah,
and our bedroom. The bathroom was probably one of the
prettiest bathrooms I've ever had in a hotel. I gotta say.
It didn't feel like a hotel bathroom.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Oh god, no, it was.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
It was like something I would do in my own house,
like you to get my bathroom redone.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
And the water, oh my god, it was so hot.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
The pressure the water. That's a big That's something I
I'm very picky about too, is hotels and their water
pressure and the temperature of the water. I it like
ruins my trip when I go to a hotel and
the water pressure is not there and it's not hot,
and I'm like, Okay, this is not an enjoyable shower.
But it was there. So we also ate breakfast down there,

(09:38):
and they have a little restaurant and it's called ten ten,
And yeah, first I didn't know what that. I'm like,
oh the number ten, No, ten like Tennessee. It was
so good. We got breakfast delicious.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Oh my god, so good.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
And it wasn't like your exact traditional menu like for breakfast,
but you know, we explored, we tried it out, and
it was so freaking good.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
You got some kind of egg bowl.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, this egg, the scrambled egg. I don't know what
kind of eggs, but I got eggs. I think it
was over easy eggs. And it was in a bowl
with potatoes and this, this and that, and it was
really really good.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah. I just got pancakes and that wasn't even on
the menu, Like they were like, we could do that
for you.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, you know, Piggy shaw us. So she wanted her
the traditional pancakes and they did it. They didn't give
her a hard time, like yeah, no problem, no.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
And the chocolate milk I always get, you know, I
mean I love my chocolate milk in the morning. It
was like the best chocolate milk I've ever had.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Really.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, it was so good.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I mean, all in all, it was a really
great experience there from start to finish at that hotel.
Gorgeous facilities. They had conference rooms that they let us
use the interview these singers that we met, beautiful conference rooms.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
They were even impressed.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, they they had anything you can imagine it. And
again Number one, guys, is the location. You can't beat it.
You're not going to get any better than that location
at Holston House. So we did in view the manager, Mike,
and you'll have to hear that because heyes, So there's
history behind this hotel. That's another thing I love when
I go to hotels. I want to know the history

(11:09):
when it's something like that, an old building that the
history was great. So stay tuned for that interview.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
My name is Mike Klein. I'm the general manager for
the Holston House here in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Can you give us some history behind the hotel for sure?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
So, the Holston House is the second oldest hotel still
in operation in the city. We opened in nineteen twenty
nine as the James Robertson Apartment Hotel. I've been through
many lives. We've had broadcast radio stations here, We've had
advertising offices here, We've had apartments. The owners of the
building actually lived on the penthouse and had a garden

(11:47):
up on the roof, which is why we call the
Poolbar heirloom. Perfectly located in downtown Nashville, just far enough
away from Broadway to keep you out of trouble, but
you get a quick walk to get back into trouble.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
And it's true.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's true. What I love about the hotel is it's
quiet right here. And I'm like, I've never been to Broadway,
so I'm like where you say we walked, and I'm like, oh,
we're on Broadway. It's so quiet, and then you just look.
You take a few extra steps around the corner and
you're like, oh that's Broadway. It was a sea of
people lights. It's just beautiful music and it's a perfect

(12:22):
location right here for sure.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
It's everything is in walking distance. You don't have to,
you know, rent a car un that you really want to.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
But the restaurants all around so everyone has something. It's
there's something for everyone all around here. You know, we
went to the park. If you have kids, there's a
park right there with they had Uno cards, chalk. Then
you had the bars, the restaurants, and then all the
night life and the music. What amenities does this hotel
offer that someone looking to book would spark their interest.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
So we have a fantastic broad restaurant and open seven
days a week from seven to two. Our pool and
pool bar are gone to be open probably through October,
depending on what happens with the weather. And then we
will also be featuring our bar Tend pop up starting
in mid September. The theme of it this year is

(13:14):
going to be spook Easy, So we're going to have
moving frames and a lot of creepy cocktails and delicious
but creepy looking food available for purchase, and we're going
to have some really neat stories of historic characters who
may have died in odd and spooky ways.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Is the hotel wanted depends on the day.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I was actually here during COVID, and I will say
one of six people, and there were a couple of
times where the music just all of a sudden blasted
after and when you're by yourself in an hotel, it
becomes a little bit creepy.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's greaty yeah, yeah, with all the history. And it's
going to be one hundred years old, you said in
twenty twenty nine, right, so.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Looking forward to that. Our birthday will be ninety six.
Birthday will be coming up in October.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
You have a big party.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Absolutely. I think the biggest thing that I lean on
here is there are so many hotels. There's so many
choices that you can pick in Nashville. We really have deep,
authentic roots, and I'm so proud of this team. We
have a team of very passionate people ready to take
great care of you wherever you want to go, with
good recommendations, and we're just here to make sure that

(14:28):
people have a great time and accomplish what they want
to accomplish here, help them tell their Nashville story.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Well, thank you so much Mike for coming on the
show today, and we absolutely love staying here and we
can't wait to come back next year.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
It's absolutely beautiful. We love our room, love the views,
the views from the pool so.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Oh my god, bath taking.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Yeah, I went up early this morning for that and
thankfully those won't change anymore. When with the hotel first opened,
you could see all the way down Broadway. So that's
how much how quickly this city state has been changed.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
And now they put a stop that were just built.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Up a giant apartment tower right between us.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
It's still beautiful though, it's still beautiful. But yes, thank
you so much. We are enjoying our stay. The food
was absolutely amazing this morning, and we look forward to
staying here again coming back.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
So after all of our interviews that we did, we uh,
took a trip downtown to put Shack, which is a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Bar slash in door mini golf.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
In door mini golf, it was so cool. It was
very bright in there, like it was just very lively
I felt when I walked in. The food was okay,
I mean, you loved it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I love the food. But that's again, Sean is pickier
than me, so she likes more traditional stuff. I was.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I liked to and the burger was good.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, I love it. The beria tackles were amazing. I
also got like the gravy cheese fries of poutine. I
thought that was good. I had a burger too. The
burger was very tasty, very moist. What else did we get?

Speaker 4 (16:06):
It was definitely everything was.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Fresh, yes, fresh, flavorful.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
The meat was fresh.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
The desserts were great.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Oh my god, talk about oh my god.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
There, you know, shut up. She could talk about the desserts.
She's a sweet tooth. She loved it. It was some more.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
It was a nutellas'mores on flatbread. Yeah, oh my god.
I was in heaven. And our waiter, Parker, he was like,
why don't you play golf and then come back for dessert?
So that way, you know, burn off all that food
we ate. Yeah, and you could actually, you know, maybe

(16:43):
be hungry to try it. Yeah. So I was like, yeah,
that's a good idea. So we did golf and uh
then we went back for dessert. I was in heaven.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
It was it was good. I got the beignets. They're
kind of like Zeppelese, but the French makeum usually and
they're like fried dough and you can dunk them in
different topings. I loved it. They were so so good.
I ate too many. But that was the food side.
They had a huge bar. We don't drink. Unfortunately, they
did have a nice drink menu. Like if my husband

(17:13):
was with us, he probably would have went crazy for
their cocktail menu because they had so many different drink
recipes on there. So unfortunately we're not drinkers, so we
can't really give you any info on that. But I
saw that they had a great menu on that, lots
of different options, a beautiful bar, lots of beautiful seating,
and the most important part was the mini golf. It

(17:34):
was so freaking cool. You go in and you go
on these these computers, you kind of log yourself in,
you pick a time, how many people, and then I've
never seen anything like it. It's so high tech that
the golf ball that they give you, it tracks everything.
It tracks how many times you hit it, how many
times it goes in a hole, you know, how long

(17:55):
you're taking, what hole you're at, and it goes up
on a screen right away. So like, if it took
me four tries to get it into the hole, it's
gonna my score is going to show that on the screen.
I don't have to keep track of that. It just
goes you know, oh, you did this in four times.
Or if you get a hole in one, which means
Shanna shockingly got once or twice, we were like, what
the heck? It comes right on the so you're like

(18:15):
hole in one, Oh my god, you know.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
And then like if you hit it and you missed,
it'll say like you missed, and I'm like, how does
it know?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Or keep trying, keep trying, And then.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
If you don't take your ball out of the hole,
which happened quite a lot to me, it would say
get your ball.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Lauren, get your ball, Lauren, get your ball. You know
on the screen, don't forget your ball. So it was
also I thought that that technology behind that was so great,
Like in these little golf balls and if I hit
her ball by accident, it knew it didn't know it
was me, but so Shana would get that. It would say,
oh Shanta hit it. I'm like, oh, shoot, that's not

(18:54):
so keep track of your balls. They have specific numbers
on them. But so cool, really cool. Everyone there was great,
This service was great. That people were great. The guy
who was teaching us with the mini golf, he was
so friendly. I forget his name, but great. This is
something that you want to do when you go down
to Nashville. They have a few locations all over the country. Yeah,

(19:14):
so that it is a fun thing to do on
a trip or if you live by it, get a
group of friends and go for your birthday or something.
We had such a blast and we both really have
never played. I've never really played golf. I had no
interest in it, but I had so much fun.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
It was a lot of fun. And I don't I'm
not a golfer. I don't golf. My dad and my
brother did, but you know, I know nothing really about
sports or golfing, and I had a good time.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
It was fun. We honestly highly recommend it and I
highly recommend the food because there's something for everyone on there.
If you're picky like Seawana, they have the traditional burger,
but if you're more exploratory like me and want to
experience different foods, they have all different types of flavors.
So there's something for everyone there and it'll be a
great time. Highly Reckoned meant that.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Right now, we're gonna hop into our interview with singer
songwriter Mary Claire. We are here in Nashville with singer
songwriter Mary Claire.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Hi, are you guys doing good?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
I love your song Your Love by the Way, Thank you?
And you are a Christian music artist, yes, Thatt genre. Yeah,
so what made you get started in the industry?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I mean, I grew up in a Christian household, and
you know, in Nashville there's music around you constantly, it's
hard to ignore it. But specifically my dad, he has
been in the industry for a long time. So I've
just grown up at concerts in the studio and got
to see, you know, firsthand, what it's like to be
a musician.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
And realized at the early age that I wanted to
do that.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
So yeah, So is he like a manager or in
a band or manager.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, you don't want to be me and a fan,
you know what I'm hearing thing far.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Away, But yeah, he's just on the business side of things,
so I really got to see what it's like.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Business side, business side, yeah, which is totally different than performing.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Right, Yeah, And I don't ask him performance advice, just
business advice.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
But that must be awesome having your dad as a manager,
because he's looking out for your best interests where maybe
someone else wouldn't, you know, you never know.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's a huge blessing because you hear so many stories
of artists, you know, having hard times with management and
just business people. And to know that I have someone
that's in my corner and isn't going to try to,
you know, do anything shady.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Is really a big comfort and a big blessing.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
And I think that, you know, that's just the Lord's
way of showing me that he's you know, with me
throughout this journey.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Yeah. Absolutely. And you said that your love can be
sung to God or to someone you care about, and
it's really written for anyone, right, you know, So we
love that about the song. And how important is that
versatility when you're writing in music?

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I mean My main mission as an artist is to
have a song that people, you know, believers and non
believers can either sing toward Christ or toward a loved one,
you know, a spouse or a family member, because I
want it to be accessible. I don't want you know,
non believers to get afraid of my music, and I
don't want you know, Christians to feel like it's not fun.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
And you know, music's supposed to be fun.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
So I just wanted to have an updeat song that
you know, you can sing anyone that you love and
you know it's sweet and you can roll the windows down.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
And just vibe out. So that was what I wanted
to do with this one, and I think I did it.
I hope I did it. But it's just a fun song.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
I liked the music video too. Oh yeah, so did
you shoot that around here in Nashville? Er?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, like ten minutes from my house at a little
public park and I don't think that we had a
video permit, so.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
But yeah, it was super fun.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
And I sent a text to some family and friends
and I was like, hey, if you want to come be,
you know, in this music video with me, feel free,
and a.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Lot of people showed up and that was really sweet.
But I loved the video.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
It was fun, it was it was a very whoever
produced it did an amazing.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yes, it was incredible.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, I love like she was saying the versatility in
your in your music, because yeah, if you box yourself
sometimes in you might people might not want to even
try and listen, and if they did, they'd be like wow,
you know. So I love that and that speaks a
lot about your songwriting ability and all that.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Yeah, I mean, you have kids, you know what it's
like to like hear the music that they're listening to
and they think that.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
It's harmless, and you know what it's really saying.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I have a little sister, and whenever I was her age,
I had the Jonas Brothers.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
And Hannah Montana and that was fun.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
I mean there were some things here and there, but
for the most part, you know, it's just upbeat, fun music.
And I listened to what she has on her radio
now and it's scary, right, And so I wanted to
give her age group and demographic stuff that they can
have fun too. And the lyrics, you know, are pointing
towards the truth and the message as well. So she
was a big inspiration in me and kids and just

(24:01):
giving them something fun but also meaningful.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah. Yeah, And you know, we were talking about that
this morning while La has a three year old and
the stuff that is on these YouTube channels for little
kids is just the songs and the videos, and I
just I just shake my head.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Right, we need more Mary Claire's because I think my
daughters need you know, she's three and she doesn't know
what she's listening to, but we're watching and we're we're
saying it's very important because all that it sticks with
them and then it just goes into something else or
flourshs into something else. So it's important to have that
good basis and good music and good messages in the

(24:44):
songs that they're listening to.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Right absolutely, And I want to show them that, you know,
being a Christian is fun. I mean, God wants us
to have fun and celebrate life, and you know you can.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
You can wear fun clothes and you can hang out
with your friends and.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
It doesn't have to be bad and you don't have
to you know, become someone that you're not.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
So yeah, I'm glad you guys get what I'm trying
to do. You know, we get it, we.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
Love we love it.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, and you've worked with legendary producers like Ted T
and Mike Woods. So what was the biggest lessons that
you've taken from them.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I mean, anytime that I'm in a room with someone
like that that just has a lot of experience, I
just try to learn and just to do like a
sponge and just to soak up everything that I can.
But Ted has helped me from day zero, Like without him,
I wouldn't be a singer.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
He you know, found me and he knew my dad
and he said, you know, don't you want to be
a singer? And I said yeah, and he was like, well,
let's do it. Come to the studio.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
And so he's an influential from the beginning. And you know,
people like Mike Woods and Jeff Cardo, Carter Froze, they're
just producers that I can't believe that I get to
work with. So whenever I do work with them, I
make sure that I can really learn as much as
I can. And I'm also blessed that I've been able
to become friends with them as well.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
So it's it's been a really big blessing.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
And I think working with people like that is another
way of the Lords showing me that.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
I'm on the right path, you know.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
It's a good well, that's definitely important.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
And do events happening in the world today, do they
like influence your music and your songwriting.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's a good question. Oh my goodness. I mean.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yes, But I will say that whenever I go to
write songs, I usually think what have I gone through?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
And what am I going through?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Because chances are there someone else that's going through that.
And I don't want to become someone so focused on
the world around me because I know personally that would
just make me distracted, you know, like I would have
an opinion and it would just get messy. And so
I just like to focus on what the Lord's telling.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Me where I'm at.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
I know that people my age are going through the
same thing, you know, identity issues, anxiety, mental health, and
so I try to focus on those things and let
the world work itself out.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I love that.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, but your debut album enough it blends with a
faith Beast theme. But Wilso pop m hm, So tell
us a little bit about that, and how do you
balance staying true to your values?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, so I found myself last year writing a ton
of songs and working on a ton of music, and
I had no problem with just making an album. And
then I realized that, you know, I'm I'm an extremely
small artist and no one knows who I am. But
I didn't really see a problem with that. So we
put together an album and released it. And all the
songs are very personal, and you know, there's not any
that are like fillers or just there because.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
We had to make an album. They're all very you know,
important to me.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
And there's songs about you know, depression and people passing away,
song about my parents getting divorced recently, so they're all
very It's like a page out of my journal.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Like you know, people say, you know, what are you
going through? What are you walking through? And I say, well,
you can just go to Spotify and hit play.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
And that that's my journal right there for the whole
world is thing. It's me right right, But yeah, enough
is a compilation of everything that I've walked through up
until this point in my life. And growing up, I
had two sisters and a brother, and the brother was
always out doing sports and things, and me and my
sisters would be home and before we would leave the

(28:17):
house or go to a friend's house.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Or do anything. He would say you're enough, and we'd
be like, okay, Dad, whatever, I don't really know what.
You always told me that.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And then we became a teenager and you know, we're
getting looking at our chops of the mirror and stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Like that, and he would say you're enough.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
And I never really understood why he spoke that over
us until I became an adult and I realized that
some days you don't feel enough, and that's such a
crazy concept to have. But as a believer, I think
that we can, you know, get kind of insecure and think,
you know, am I worth?

Speaker 3 (28:48):
It? Was he right about me, you know, and.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Just hearing the Lord say you know, you're enough, and
also that meaning of enough going back to the Lord.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Saying you're enough for me. If all I have is you,
that's enough. So just a few meanings. But I love
the album and it's oh my goodness, I don't even know.

Speaker 5 (29:11):
I'm very emotional.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
That's no, no, it's good. It's just beautiful to have,
you know, your father saying that to you, and that
that's that's it makes me want to do that to
my children. You know, I can think about it, and
that's something that I should do because there's so many
doubts and they might not have them now my son's
getting into that age, but that's important and that builds

(29:34):
confidence in themselves and that it kind of protects them.
I thinking away from the evil of the world and
evil of your mind wandering too. So that's it's beautiful
to touch me.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
And they might not get it now, but no, one
day they'll say, no, I know, my mom said that.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
They'll be like, I don't.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
I don't. It's something that you don't get it when
you're young, you know, but now that you're older and adult.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
You know, now you get it.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah. Right now you're like, oh, mom was not crazy?

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yes, yes, a lot, right, I love it.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
So do you have any current projects going on or
coming up?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
We have a few things in the works, a few
festivals and shows here and there. But I'm really trying to,
you know, find who I am and do local things
coffee shops and writers rounds because I want to be
confident in, you know, who I present myself as on
stage and make sure that it's authentic before I go
to anything bigger than that, because you know, I am

(30:38):
secure and who I am, but at the same time,
I have no clue, and so just.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Being honest with myself and trying to be authentic to
my fan base and working through that.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
So yeah, some exciting things coming, but for now keeping
it small.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
But once I have things, they'll be on social media
and I'll text you about it.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
Yes, And what is your social media so that our
listeners can find you? And your website?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, so everything is Mary Clare Music, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,
TikTok YouTube, Yeah, Mary Clare Music.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
That's my website as well. So yeah, it's all the same.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Awesome.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Well, thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
For coming in today, absolutely chatting with us.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
We love to have you.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
And if you're ever in New York let us know, Yes, go.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
For a hike. Yes, And next time you're in Nashville,
text me we can have a girl's day. Yeah. Awesome,
I really love that.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Yes, we need to relax some girls.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Then.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
So while we were in Nashville, we did some research
about you know, what artists had places there and uh
Luke Brian had a place there, Post Malone had a
place there, Kid Rock, Kid Rock, Miranda, Lambert Blake shell In. Yeah,
so many people. But you know who also had a

(31:54):
spot there was our very own Gavin de Gars, who
grew up in our area. He had opened up a massive,
massive bar, restaurant.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
Gaming, gaming, bowling, carrying, I mean rooftop bar.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
It was ginormous. I think it was seven floors.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
I don't know, five to seven floors. I can't remember exactly.
It was a lot.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
It was a lot and the food, oh my god,
so good. We ate on the rooftop. They had karaoke,
They had live bands on like almost every floor. It
was so much fun.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yeah, we that. When you walk in, you have the
bar there, you have the mechanical bowl, which is always
a must when you go to any Southern place, like
you want to get on the mechanical bowl. And then
all the gaming's down there. Then you go to the
next floor and you know, they have karaoke, they have this,
They had the DJ there. Then there's another floor and

(33:00):
they had bowling. They had the minipin bowling. I guess
that's what it's called, Like it's a new thing, minipin bowling.
They had some more arcade games there. The rooftop bar
was absolutely gorgeous, huge space. They actually had two rooftop bars.
One was higher and one was lower, So that floor
we couldn't really go on because they had a private
party there that booked it out, and there was like

(33:20):
an outdoor area, like a rooftop area. So it was
the views number one from that rooftop bar.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Holy crap, they were breathtaking. I took a picture. I
posted it on Instagram, so everyone probably have has already
seen it. I couldn't get over the view.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
One view was what Seanna posted was the strip of
just all the lights, all the people, all the energy
was she captured in that picture. And then if you
turn the other way, you had the river, yeah, and
this beautiful lit up bridge over that. So it just
it was like a perfect location for that place too.
It was on the end of the strip where you

(34:00):
had the most gorgeous views all around.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah, it's like, you know, it was kind of like
the last stop on that strip. Yeah, and then you know,
you eat or drink or whatever, and then you go
back to the little chat.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
But this was another great spot, guys. I just love
the vibe there, the service there, the people, that bartender upstairs,
what was her name, she was phenomenal. I don't remember phenomenal.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
She was so nice.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh my god, we had we got a kick out
of her. But great place to bring friends. When you
go to Nashville, you have to make your way down
that strip and go there either before pregame there or
after and you'll have a blast. You know, all the
arcade games, the bowling, the mechanical bull, the karaoke. There's
something for everyone in your group. And you can hit

(34:47):
Flora by floor by floor to get something different out
of that that location where I don't think you can.
We didn't go to every place there, but I don't
think there's many spots on the strip that are like
that that have that can offer you all of that.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yeah, I don't think there is one at all. Actually.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
And the building again is historic and we loved that.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yes, we learned about the history from the manager there.
It used to be a shipping warehouse and that's why
it's right on the river, so it had that old
history there. Of they would get deliveries and they put
stuff out. I love that kind of stuff, and I
love how they took something old that probably would have
sat there and rotted away and they transformed it into

(35:30):
this just beautiful, crazy, fun facility for people to enjoy,
to get enjoyment out of this old building that probably
would have been knocked down, you know, and I love that.
And what made it even better again was it Gavin
de grow and his brother Joey's place. And it's called
Nashville Underground. So if you're in the Nashville area, definitely

(35:50):
put that on your list to check out anytime of
the day. But it really gets lively, you know, the
later in the night, but anytime the day, it's like
it'd be a fun, fun place.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah. I think we went around seven and we didn't
leave there untill like eleven o'clock at night.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah, it was fun.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
It was so much fun. So our last night there,
I decided, you know, my mom came with us, who's
our assistant, and I promised her that I would do
something with her. You know, she wanted to see a show.
She's like, we can't go to Nashville and not see
a show. So I found the perfect show for her.

(36:29):
It was an off Broadway show about Dolly Parton's life
that Dolly Parton herself wrote and choreographed and all that.
So she basically put this whole show together. Started on
I think on on Monday, and then we saw it
on Friday.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, so it was very new. Yeah, Like I I'm
gonna be honest, I'm not a big show person, and
at first I was like, I like Dolly, but I
really don't want to sit through I don't want to say
it through a show.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I'm not a Broadway person either.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, but I was amazed. I was. I loved. I
absolutely love the show. It had emotion. It told me
things about Dolly that I never knew, and they made
it entertaining. I was never bored. I was like, oh my, gosh,
oh my, I didn't know that. Wow, this is all
She's funny, she had a personality on her and she

(37:23):
incorporated that into the show. Like that was Dolly.

Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yeah, you know. And it was longer. The show was
two hours. Oh it it moves long, twenty something minutes
and originally it was over three hours and they had
to cut it down, so our version was two hours
and twenty something minutes. But it's also going on tour
to New York and all around the United States, so

(37:49):
there's still I think editing it to make it a
little bit shorter, because you know, people's attention span. Hmm,
isn't that great? But I I'm gonna go see it
again when it comes to New York.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, I want to take my mother in law. She
loves Dolly. I think that she would. She's gonna love
it because she likes Broadway plays. So this is I've
never been to a Broadway play, but this was great.
The music, the singing, everyone was so talented. Even I
was more shocked at the little kids. They have little
Dolly like Dolly as a little girl. And that actress
was amazing, Like she's saying, so good. She was so

(38:24):
good in it.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yeah. And the girl who played Dolly, I don't know
her name, but she sounded just like Dolly.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I know how crazy is that. Then someone can sound
exactly like you like or make themselves sound that way. Yeah,
I mean, I highly recommend it. If it's coming to
a city near you, check it out. Dolly is an
amazing person. She's such a helpful person. She's helped so
many people in her lifetime.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Poor, probably billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, so this is to support her and to hear
her story and see her. I highly recommend that because
she is such a good person and she deserves everything
that comes to her, every good thing that comes.

Speaker 4 (39:07):
To her, she really does. And that's our show for
this week. Thank you so much for tuning in. Check
us out at Shaunaandlala dot com on all social media
platforms at Shauna and Laala. You could follow me on
Instagram at the Real Shawna May.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
And check me out out on Instagram at Bella Underscore
La La one two five.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
We will see you next week
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