August 20, 2025 • 47 mins
What was supposed to be a fun night out in Nashville nearly turned into a true crime podcast story. Shawna and LaLa share how LaLa’s terrifying encounter with a creepy “Dexter” type stranger was stopped thanks to two heroic men who came to her rescue. After the chaos, the hosts shift gears and dive into the Nashville music scene, spotlighting Hudson Valley talent making waves in Music City and chatting with rising indie artist Coey Redd. And because no girls’ trip is complete without a little downtime, Shawna shows off her Popilush one-piece swimsuit—proving it’s the perfect poolside look for curvy women, especially those “blessed in the chest.”
Tune in for a mix of true crime twists, travel stories gone wrong, Nashville music discoveries, women’s safety, body confidence, and artist interviews—all in one unforgettable episode of Life Beyond The Mic.
Tune in for a mix of true crime twists, travel stories gone wrong, Nashville music discoveries, women’s safety, body confidence, and artist interviews—all in one unforgettable episode of Life Beyond The Mic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the heart of the city, where the beat beats
the rhythm of your day.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Shawna.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's up. You're listening to Shauna and La La. Check
us out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all
social media platforms at Shauna and La La. You could
follow me on Instagram at the Real Shorna May.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And check me out at Bella Underscore Lalla one two five.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We are still recuperating from our trip to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I feel like I'm not back to myself normal self.
I'm still it's been how long, like a week? Yeah,
and I'm not still catching up on my sleep. That's
how I feel.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
That's how I feel too. I just feel like I
can't sleep enough.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I mean, I don't sleep well even if I try.
But I just I still feel very worn out, that's
the word for it. And I think it's been a
I probably I head back to back vacations and although
vacations are fun, traveling can be stressful, and especially when
like Nashville, I didn't sleep at all and it's a
(01:12):
lot so your body. It does. I feel like your
body takes a while to get back to normal, and
I think that for me, it was emotionally hard because
I had to leave my kids, and any parent out
there knows how hard that is, or maybe some don't,
because I feel like a lot of people I know
left and right, I see them on a mom's trip
or a girl's trip or a business trip, and they're
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you know, they're not with their kids. So for me
it was harder. I've never left Julina. She's going to
be four in October, and I was never without her
more than a day, so that was really difficult for me.
I got through it, it was okay, but I think
the emotional wear and tear on that Sean, I could
tell you I was crying when I came to pick
her up to go to the airport, and I was
(01:54):
really upset. I was crying the whole way.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You were you were crying there.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Too, Yeah, so's it's hard and I think that that
definitely took a toll on me. So I feel for
parents who have to go through that and it's hard,
but I know that it is needed. I gotta start
to cut the mumbilical cord there.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So what did you think of Nashville. It was my
first time actually going to the downtown, the city of Nashville.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I loved it. I think the energy there was what
I loved most about Nashville. Just walking through the crowds
and crowd there was so many people.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It was almost like Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Manhattan on like not just every day Manhattan. It was crazy.
It was crazy because in Manhattan I have a little
space to walk. There you were just bumpered a bumper,
like not bumpered to bump a person, a person walking.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, we were all like sardines.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah. So to me, you know, like maybe I don't
know an event going on in the city, then you know,
that's what it was like. But so in thousands and
thousands of people, the energy, the bands, the music, the lights,
the the just how everyone was there to have a
good time. I loved that and you could feel that
(03:12):
as you walk down the street. What me and Seana
loved the most too, was so you have these bars
back to back to back, like all next to each other,
and they all have open windows, so there's no bait
like glass plane window on the front of the bar.
It's open, and each window has a band playing on
a stage right by the window, and as you pass them,
you're hearing, you know, like you're passing one's like blinkin
(03:34):
eighty two is they're playing that right there, and then
the next one is playing like a Jone Jet song
and the next one's playing a Miranda Lambert song and
you don't hear those songs until you get right in
front of it. And it's just like I loved it
so much, Like that was so cool to experience.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It really was. And I was just taken back by,
like you couldn't hear what the next bar was.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Playing now because you were just all you could hear
is what they were playing. And as soon as you
got past it was like boom, like switching the radio station.
I thought that was so cool.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And they're all so talented, and I love that about Nashville.
There's just so much talent that you're like wow, Like
you know the musicians and clubs that are out there now,
but to just think about how how many everyday average
Joe's out there were all this talent that aren't out
there in the big lights, that haven't made it, but
they could. They could definitely get a record label so easily.
(04:27):
So that was really cool. Is to see that, Like
we went and saw Todd Cameron. It's funny because her
so good. Yeah, my friends will followed him, well, not
all of them. A few of my friends followed them.
And one of my friends actually knows him. And I
walked in not even knowing he was playing, and I'm
like this, his name sounds familiar, what the heck? And
I'm standing there and watching and yeah, he was absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Is he from our area?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, I don't believe he is, but he's he's down
there and he just the talent is oozing out of him,
and the way he works a crowd is just it
was crazy. But what I heard from a friend, like
who's friends with him, He was saying that Nashville used
to be a place where artists went to showcase their
(05:16):
music and get discovered, get discovered by playing their original music.
Then once these bachelorette parties started going there, and Nashville
became this hot spot for partygoers and the bachelorette parties.
And you can imagine, we saw it firsthand. All these
little drunk girls. What are they gonna want to hear?
They're gonna want to hear theirs songs that they're playing.
Can you play Britney spears. Can you play you know
(05:38):
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, and their outfits.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I just.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, every time we would be walking down the street,
I'm like, Lauren, look at this one.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, they're butt cheeks hanging out and shaking their booties
on those things.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The buses, the buses that went by.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It was insane.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, I'm gonna get to that. But going back, so,
all these young girls are going there and they want
to hear their pop music. They want to hear the
songs that they like. They don't want to hear original music.
So they start either they're leaving. If you're playing original music,
they're leaving, or if you play the songs they request,
they're sticking around.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So it became Nashville became like less original and now
they're like cover bands. And I feel for him. I
feel for all those artists out there. I think we
were talking to Kobe Read, you know, when we did
our interview, and she said, it's hard. She gives them
a lot of credit because they had, you know, many
songs they had to memorize. They could they could play anything.
That's that's insane, that is absolutely I used to be
(06:37):
in a band and we had a practice, like I
think we had a set of seven songs, and we
had practice and practice and practice, and could I can't
even imagine if we had to know over a hundred
songs just randomly, like Kami Kazi. It like who's gonna
what are they gonna ask for today? I give them
so much credit. So but he was great, and like
(07:00):
every artist we saw was absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He was great. We should really get him on the show.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I would love that. I would love it. And the
other cool part was that after we were I think
I left you or maybe you were with me. No, no,
you went back to the hotel. I was roam in
the streets the first night. I wanted to check out
Kyote Ugly because I love that movie. Growing up, I
used to be a Coyote Ugly girl in our local
town bars. I just sang and danced on the bars.
(07:26):
You know, probably could get in trouble for that, but
we it was great. So I needed to go to
Coyote and you did it sober? I did. I don't drink,
so yes, I was on the bar dancing and singing
sober and it was it was great. You know, I
loved it. I loved entertaining like that, and we did
the water fight. I have videos of it. It's like
when I look back at it, I'm like, oh my god,
(07:47):
my kids are gonna see this one day. But it
was fun. So, you know, I had to go to
Coyote Ugly and I was very disappointed.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I was.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So I walked into this place and I'm like, this
is not what I thought Coyote Ugly would be. There
was about a bunch of older women on the bar dancing,
not the workers, but like customers. It was very weird.
I ended up leaving, but I went into Old Red
again because you know, I saw Todd Cameron the night before,
(08:15):
and I went in there to see who was playing.
And I look up on the screen and it says
Hudson Valley Band and we're from the Hudson Valley guys. Yeah,
And then I remembered, oh my god, I'm an idiot.
My friend from up here in the Hudson Valley and
his wife and they have a band and they moved
down to Nashville and it's called the Hudson Valley Band.
(08:35):
So my friend was there and his wife, so I
was like, oh, Rich is here. He's the drummer of
the band. His wife is the singer. She is so so,
so freaking good. The whole band is good. But that
was cool to see someone from our hometown in a bar, right.
I wasn't expecting it, like you know, so that was
really cool for me.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Nashville just really reminded me of like Broadway in New
York City.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that definitely, but with I
don't know, I feel like it was like a cooler,
cooler crowd. Maybe I don't know. I haven't been to
Manhattan in year, so you would know better than me.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, I haven't been there on years either, so yeah,
but I mean it just reminded me. And it's funny
because it was only like one strip, like one street.
It wasn't even like the whole street. It was like
half of the street was just bars and just entertainment
non stop. And then it's like you turn the corner
(09:36):
and it's like you're in like what we call like Middletown. Yeah.
It was quieter and quieter except except at night. The
uh there was motorcycles going by, couldn't sleep, fire trucks
going police.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, you know, part of I guess being in the city.
It's crazy, but I felt safe there. I have to say.
I would not feel as safe as I did in
New York City on New York City streets, Oh no.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And I felt super safe there. There was cops like
every few feet. Security was outside of every bar, in
every bar. They were on top of their ship. We
saw at one point they were like kicking people out.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, they were. They were definitely on there, on top
of things. There's I feel they have to deal with
a lot. There's the inebriation on that tree of people
being wasted out of their minds was absolutely insane. Oh
my god, insane.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
There.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
We were walking back the first night, I believe, and
some drunk guy he couldn't even walk straight. He kept
bumping into my mom and he like almost like ran
right indoor. Yeah, well he did run right indoor and
he almost like pushed her over. I was like, what
are you doing? Yeah, So I was like, I was like,
come here. I was like, just slow down, let him go,
you know, up ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah. That doesn't work all the time. No, Right, So
I promised you guys a crazy story. I mean, maybe
it's not that crazy, but it was a scary story,
and it had to do with I went out every
night by myself, pretty much like you know, Shona went back,
you know, at a certain time, and I was like,
I'm gonna stay out. I'm a partier. I love partying,
(11:16):
I love bands, love you know, walking around. So everyone
was telling me, don't do that. It's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, my friends were all saying, be careful, it's dangerous.
It's you know, don't stay out too late. And I'm
thinking to myself. After the first night, I'm like, why,
Like this is fine.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, that's what I was saying. So the first night
I went out, I stayed till like midnight. I'm like, oh,
And I made a post that I was saying I
was fine. Everything was fine. It was great everyone. You know,
there's a lot of people. I felt safe.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It was a Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, Saturday night, it's a whole different ballpark I had.
I went out. I wanted to see my friend's band,
the Hudson Valley. They were playing again, so I went
and watched them, and I was having such a good
time that I didn't realize the time. Once I looked,
I'm like, oh my god, it's almost two in the morning.
So I started, I said my goodbyes, I started heading out,
(12:04):
and as soon as I exited that old red bar,
I could feel the shift in the crowd and it
was different. It was a different crowd out there, and
I'm like, I have to walk how many blocks to
my hotel by myself? And I don't feel safe right?
And it was okay. I was like, all right, maybe
I'm just being dramatic. So I start walking and I
felt soon as I walked out of that bar, I
(12:26):
felt like someone was following me, and I have like
a good you know, people have gut feelings. I had
a gut feeling someone was following me, and I kept
looking behind my shoulder and it was hard to tell. Well,
after a few blocks, I still felt that way, and
I noticed this guy was walking alongside of me. He
was closer to the road, I was closer to the buildings,
and he was just walking in step with me. And
(12:47):
if I slowed down, he slowed down. And he kept
looking at me and then looking away really quick, like
really awkward, you know, And I'm like, hmm, should I
overreact about this or you know, the guy was very
well dressed, clean, you know, he didn't look like a
homeless guy. He didn't look like a weirdo, but I
was getting a bad gut feeling. So after it kept
going on, I'm like, I'm just gonna stop. I'm gonna
(13:08):
go to the wall. I try to find someone safe.
And yeah, I passed a few security guards, but they
were dealing with their own drama that I'm like, they're
not gonna be able to help me, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So I saw these two men that were in the
inlet of this wall. I didn't know them. They were
there smoking, talking to each other, and I just like,
those guys, I'm gonna go buy them. So I put
my back to the wall by them, not really close
but in their area, and I'm like, let me see
if I'm overreacting. Maybe the guy is gonna go and
just keep walking. Well, I stopped put my back against
the wall, and the guy kept walking, and I'm like, Lauren,
(13:42):
you're such an idiot, like you always freak out about things.
And just as I was thinking those thoughts, the guy
stopped dead in his track and he just stood there
and I'm like, oh shit. He turned around, looked me
in the eye and ran at me like he belined
it right to me and he put his nose like
his nose was an inch from my face and he
grabbed my hand, my wrist. It wasn't my full hand,
(14:04):
so he had my wrist and my palm in his
hand and he's like, Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm Parker. What's
your name? Hi? I've been watching you. Your eyes are gorgeous.
You have beautiful eyes. And he's that close to my
face and I'm with my other hand because my one
hand he has it, I can't move it. I'm trying
to grab my little weapon I took up me on
the trip, my little keychain weapon just in case you're
(14:25):
like just stab in. So I'm trying to keep him talking.
I was like, my name's Lauren. I said how are you?
And I'm trying to get it, and that's all I said.
And he was getting closer, and the two guys next
to me noticed. I didn't have to yell, I didn't
have to scream. I didn't have to say anything. They
ran over and were like, who the f are you?
Do you know this guy? And I said no, and
(14:45):
then so they start pushing him and he like, get
away from her, get the f out of here, and
the guy pushed him in the chest. I mean, my
heroes I'm gonna call them, pushed the creep so hard
in the chest. And the creepy guy he had evil
in his eye. I'm telling you guys this, He just
he freaked me out. And he looked at the guy
(15:05):
who pushed him and said, I wouldn't recommend you doing
that again, just like that, just like all the freaking
serial killer movies I've watched, I wouldn't recommend you doing
that again. And I think it freaked them out a
little bit. And then but he kept going at him
and the guy just took off running. The creepy guy ran,
so the one guy chased him down, just kept chasing him,
(15:26):
and the other guy with me is like, are you okay?
And I'm like, I'm okay. I was like, how did
you know that? I how did you know to help me?
He goes, He goes, we're Dad's We just had this
sixth sense that something wasn't right there. And that guy,
he's like, that guy had a really bad look in
his eye. He reminded me of Dexter. And I've never
seen the show.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I've never seen it either, but I've heard about it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, he's like he was like dexter or some kind
of serial killer vibe in his eyes. I said, I
felt the same way, and he's like, that's really scary.
He's like he had your hand. I can't believe he
was like grabbing you that way. I'm like, I know.
I'm like, I don't know what could have happen, and
guys like I really don't because there were people out,
but you just never know, you know, yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And how did he pick you out of the crowd.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I know that he must have. Maybe he was in
the bar watching me. That's what I'm wondering. I was
by myself the whole night at that bar, watching my
friends play. I didn't drink, and maybe he will follow
me out of the bar, you know. That's why I
felt that bad vibe as soon as I exited the bar.
I don't know, but long story kind of short. I
think the other guy came back. He's like, I can't
(16:30):
find him. He ran, he went down an alleyway. I
couldn't find him anymore. I was like, no, thank you
so much. I appreciate it. And he said that guy
had a dexter look in his eye. So I'm like,
what the hell, like we all felt it. And they said,
are you okay? Do you need anything? I said, I
don't know. I got to get back to my hotel.
They're like, you know, do you want us to walk you?
And I said yes. And I know my husband I
(16:51):
first was upset about that. He's like, what if they
were bad? I said, I just felt in my gut
that they were good guys. You know, that's why I
can't And they said, I you sure, We don't want
to make you feel uncomfortable. And they made a joke
that like, we're Canadians. You don't have to worry about us.
We're from Canada. So I was cracking up because you know,
the mid like Canadians are these like super friendly nice people,
you know? Yeah, but they were. They walked me all
(17:14):
the way back to my hotel, right to the door
of the hotel, and I took a picture with them
out to post it. They were great. I didn't even
get their names, but they were so nice and they're
both were dads, and uh, they just had that gut
feeling too. So I want to say this, if we
have any male listeners, or you have sons or husbands
or brothers or boyfriends tell them look out for us women.
(17:37):
We need to be looked out for and as tough
and bad and all these like independent women want to
act like they are, we're not. At the end of
the day, yeah we're not.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We're not.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And things if you are always aware and looking around
and looking out for people and other women or for women,
that can save our lives just like that. I don't
know what could have happened with this man. I don't
know what he could have done. Maybe he couldn't have
done anything. Maybe he could have hurt me. I don't know.
Maybe he could have drugged me. But no matter what,
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they stepped in and they walked me and made me
feel safe. They walked me right to my hotel room.
And it was just an amazing feeling to know like
that there's still people out there that you can trust.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, definitely, And you know I wouldn't. I would have
been scared to death. I probably would have shipped my pants.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe that would have chased them away. I oh, no,
screwless one.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But on the other hand, there's cops around. Yeah, so
that guy had balls doing what he did.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Mm hmmm. I have to say, though, Shaana, there wasn't
because I would have. Since my husband's a cop, I
was gonna go right to a cop. At that time
of night, there was cop cars in the road with
their lights on, but there have no cops in them,
so I don't know if they were all dealing maybe
with the situation at a bar. But I because I
was looking as I felt this person or felt like
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someone was following me, I was looking like, let me
find a cop, and they were all the cop cars
were empty. They had their lights on, but I'm like,
maybe they're dealing with a fight somewhere. You know, it
could have been.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So when we were walking back around ten or eleven,
the cop cars were in the road.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, they with the lights on, Okay, they were.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
There was nobody in the cars. They were outside of
the cars watching the crowd.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I didn't see any cops. I mean I saw one,
but that was back closer to Old Red So by
the time I was feeling really scared, there wasn't anyone around.
So that's why I was like, they're probably in a
bar dealing with a fight or something. Probably because I
would have That's who I would have went to right away,
was a cop, Like, hey, I'm an officer's wife. Can
you like just help me here? I don't feel safe.
But luckily I found two great dads from Canada and
(19:42):
I called them my little angels and they were great.
So gott it you. And the other thing I brought
up to Shana is that what's scary is imagine if
I was drunk. Imagine if I was one of these
girls out there drinking my butt off.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Maybe that's what he thought me and I I was told.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
My friend said that Nashville has become a predator's dreamland
because there's so many drunk women out there that it's easy.
It's easy for predators, even if they're not serial killers.
It's easy for predators, rapists, whatever, to take advantage of
these women. And I've got to tell you, there was
so many. They were hanging on me and the bar.
These drunk girls. They don't know what the hell they're doing,
They don't know where they are. That's so dangerous. So again,
(20:23):
for the ladies, please mind your liquor, have fun drinks something,
But you gotta be so careful because that situation could
have gone a whole another way. If I was drunk,
If I was drunk or on drugs that could have
I could have God only knows what could have happened
to me.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, it's so scary. And you know, not everyone is
like us, you know, we don't drink. Yeah, but the
amount of drunk people like I would say ninety eight
percent of the people were drunk.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh yeah. And it's fine, Like it's fine to have
drinks that have fun, like that's fine, we're not against
that or not like these.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, but when you're falling down drunk, you don't know,
you don't know where you are, where you are, you
don't know your name, you don't know your boyfriend's name
or who your boyfriend is. Yeah, you know that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It is, and that could and that guy could have
taken event maybe he does. Maybe that's what that guy does.
He goes around and he gets these drunk women. And
but I think I would look into missing girls over
there and it might be probably know, if there are any,
I wouldn't put it past this man. So yeah, just
be careful, not just in Nashville, anywhere you go, you
(21:36):
got you have to know your limit for your own safety,
unless you're there with someone who's sober, who can keep
control of you, but a lot of these girl groups
were not. They were all they were all done.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
No. Indeed, the guy that the girl that came up
to you in the bar, her boyfriend could even keep
control over her.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
No, yeah, there was a girl that came up. I
saw a girl being dragged out of the bar by
a man, and Seanna knows me. I step in, Yes,
when I shouldn't because I'm not big, But whenever I
see something going down, I always step in and try
and protect somebody. And this girl was being dragged out,
like by her wrist, and she was screaming and no
(22:14):
one was doing anything. So I ran over there. I
said are you okay? And he let go of her
and she grabbed me and she just held on to
me so tight, hugging me, and I could tell she
was wasted. And he's like, this is effin bullshit. He
starts cursing, and I'm like, this guy's big. I'm like,
what if he like punches me or something. Yeah, So
I said, is everything okay? And he stormed away, and
then I said to her, are you okay? She's like
(22:35):
I'm afraid. I said, what are you afraid of? She's like,
I'm from Minnesota, so she didn't even know the conversation
we were having. She says, she's afraid, and then her response
to me is, I'm from Minnesota. Like you're afraid you're
from Minnesota? Or are we having two different conversations here?
But yeah, her boyfriend came back over and she's like,
he's coming back. He's coming back, and I'm like, oh crap,
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what am I gonna do? He's huge. So I just
stood there looking up at him. I'm like, what's the
deal here? He's like, that's my girlfriend and I'm like,
you want her to leave? He's like, yeah, she's drunk.
I said, okay, well she doesn't want to go, and
you know you doesn't look at it. You're pulling her
and he goes, I'll show you pictures. So he took
out his phone. He goes, we have four. I took
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on four of her kids. They're not even mine, and
they had pictures together with kids. Does it mean anything?
Maybe they're separated? I don't know, but he's like I said,
he's like, she's wasted. I want her to go home
and she's like no, And then a guy next to
me finally stepped in. He was brave enough once he
saw me standing up to the guy to step in,
and then that just made matters worse. But yeah, they
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ended up fighting in the bar and then the security
came out, came over and kicked them out. You know,
Like it's crazy to me. So I get it that
even when you are with someone, sometimes you can't control
when people are that wasted.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
No, you can't. And you know security had to deal
with it. And who knows, they were probably fighting in
the parking lot. Yeah, in the streets, and I guarantee
she has no recollection of it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
No, and the poor guy, I mean, if he's a
good guy. The next day, i'd be pissed at her.
If that was my significant other, I'd be pissed, Like,
you know, I don't don't think this is gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I would be furious.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
It made me look like an a hole. You made
me look like an abusive boyfriend when I'm just trying
to save you and get you out of this place.
I mean, if that's the case, it could have been
a different case, something scarier. But crazy know your limit.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So after that whole situation, we decided we needed a
day of relaxation, well part of a day of relaxation
because we were literally on the go from morning till night.
So we took a few hours to sit by the pool,
which was beautiful. It overlooked the city. It was absolutely gorgeous.
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The water was not cold really at all, and the
whole pool was three foot deep. I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It's perfect for it was walk around the whole thing, yeah,
without drowning.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah. I didn't even really go into it because I'm
not one for public pools, but I you know, we
did sit in it for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
My poppy lush beating suit fit me perfectly and it
sucked me all in. I couldn't believe it. I was like,
this is the best beating suit ever.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I told her, I said, Populush is the way to
go if you're trying to hide some of that. You know,
we all all swim and have it, you know, the
little belly, So Populush is just They're amazing with that
Number one, I have to say, with making you look
hot as crap.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I couldn't believe when you said like, oh, it's gonna
suck you in, I'm thinking, oh God, I'm not gonna
be able to breathe, but I was able to breathe.
It was tight, but I was able to breathe.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And it's comfortable. It's like tight but comfortable somehow. Yeah,
it was beautiful. It was a black, black one piece,
but it was so it just showed her shape. It
was really it was very flattering. Very flattering, that's the
word I was looking for. I love Populus, you know,
I've I bought from them for the past few years
that they've been around dresses mainly, but that bathing suit
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made me. I think I'm gonna have to put one
of those in my bathing suit Arsenal.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It was beautiful and I'm not one for like one pieces. Yeah,
but I think I'm gonna have to start going into
one pieces because.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
We're getting old.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yes we are. But you wore the populush dress to
Dolly Parton's musical.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes, oh my god. I picked out a royal blue populush.
It's like a roofed body con kind of dress. So
it was right above the knees and it was very flattering.
Sucked me in, he hugged me in all the right places.
I loved it. I love the color too, and they
have little shorts under it, so you don't feel like
you're gonna be showing your butt like a lot of
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those girls on the strip, where yeah, it comes with shorts,
so I don't worry about that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
They need to start shopping up Populush.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, but I love that the brand makes you feel sexy,
especially as a mom or as as we're getting older.
It makes you feel sexy. You look sexy, your your
hip and you're sucked in in all the right places.
And I love that about about Populush.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I love them. I got one of their bras,
and their bras are so comfortable. Yes, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Swears by them.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And like, because of my scoliosis, it doesn't ride up,
you know, the bathing suit fit perfectly. I absolutely love them.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, I highly They have so many different things, so
many muck. They have so many different options on their website.
So there's there's dresses, there's pants or shirts, corsets, the bras,
so there's just something for everyone. And they do cater
to women who are more blessed in the chest. So
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that's how they started was for bigger bust women and
but I'm not and it fits me. It fits me perfect.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So while we were in Nashville, we decided let's meet
up with some local artists and hear their stories. So
we met up with a singer songwriter, Kobe Read. She
was amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I felt, I'm in love with her. I'm in love
with her. I want her to be my best friend.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
She was so cool, she was so nice, so sweet,
and talented, very talented. Oh my gosh, she actually songwrites
for other artists as well.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I know, I thought that was that was just so cool.
And now that she's branching into her own stuff, and
you know, she got such a following just from people
hearing her her. She does like country rap, you know,
and singing, but like she's kind of like meshing the two.
I think it's just genius. It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's brilliant. And she started off basically during just making
TikTok videos and she would she told us that she
would just post up a video or two and forget
about him for a few weeks and then post up
some more. And then she noticed, like her videos are
really getting a lot of traction and a lot of attention,
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and she just blew up.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I know, I'm so happy. So it was great talking
to her, catching up and hearing how from where she
came and how far she's going. So and I love
her music. There's a lot of songs that I've just
been playing on repeating. My husband's like, what are you
still listening to her?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'm like, I love it, but I guess we'll jump
in to our interview with her. You're listening to Shauna
and La La Today. We are in Nashville. We are
interviewing singer and songwriter Kobe Read today. I'm so excited
to have you.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So you started on TikTok yes and just up during.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
COVID Yes, which was really really unexpected and really like
a fun kind of story.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I guess you would say an unexpected kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I would say, so, I mean, I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Everybody was home exactly, and that's kind of yeah, that's kind.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Of like how it started. I was a writer. I
originally from northern California, but I moved.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Out to southern California, was going music school and ended
up being music school dropout and was a writer and
that world and the hip hop world for a while.
And I was about to have my first cut I
was really excited about. And then COVID happened and just
everything shut down and I was super bummed, and my
boyfriend I was like, well, like, everyone's home, we're not
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doing anything. We're all, you know what I mean, just
at home, and TikTok's kind of booming. He's like, why
don't we just start filming videos and just post them
and just see what they do. And at that point,
I was kind of in the limbo of being a writer,
but also kind of I'm an only child, so I
always wanted to be an artist, but I was a
little bit insecure about taking that step of doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
And he's like, let's just do it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Let's just throw them on there and post them and
then forget about him and just you know, post them
close the app.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Whatever happens happened.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I was like, okay, and yeah, he just filmed me
in front of these hedges outside of his apartment complex
and I was just like freestyling overbeats that he would play,
and yeah, we would just post them close the app,
post them close the app.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And I was so funny because.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I was so focused on Instagram at the time, you know,
like promoting and you know what I mean, like posting
them and commenting back that I didn't even think about TikTok.
And then one day we opened the app and we
just posted about like four or five of them back
to back. We opened the app and I had like
one hundred and twenty thousand followers, and we.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Were like, what the hell, what just happened? And then
we went back and.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
We saw, yeah, the I did like a eminem freestyle
of my name is like a yellow jumpsuit and it
had like three hundred thousand views on it overnight. And yeah,
just from there and then we were like, all right,
we's that momentum, Let's keep going. And then we just
posted once to twice a week just different freestyles and
things that I would do, freestyles written like all these
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different things, and songs and stuff that I had archived
or songs that I was pitching for other artists, just
to kind of see if it would get anytraction. And yeah,
just from there it just kind of went off. TikTok
was Cooey read was on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And is that how you got started in industry? Or
I don't know if you were saying beforehand you were
kind of right.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, So I was trying to kind of break into
it as a writer first and foremost, so the artist
thing came a little bit later. And even when all
the freestyles and stuff were happening, I always kind of
wanted to do the avenue and.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The music that I was doing now, but I didn't
really know what that looked like.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You know, I grew up writing living an hour outside
of the area in Oakland, California, and San Francisco and
Dominantly that music scene is very hip hop oriented, so
you know, and I didn't come from money, so my parents.
I had a one income family. My dad was a
garbage band, my mom, you know, did dog rescue and stuff.
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And it was one of those things where I had
to make it happen on my own. And it's kind
of get in where you fit in, and if you
were doing any type of pop or country or even
rock around.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That area, they wanted money from you.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
But the hip hop scene and kind of where I
grew up and all the kids around that were a
little bit older than me, but we're still really into
music in garage band and recording and just finding ripping
beats off YouTube and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah, they just kind of I was like twelve years
old and they were like fifteen.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
They're like, hey, we have this makeshift studio. Let's you
know what I mean, start making music. And so that's
kind of how it happened, and I kind of dove
into hip hop. I like I say, hip hop kind
of chose me in that aspect and I just loved
it and I kind of got integrated into that scene
and then decided when I was eighteen, I wanted to
move to LA and went to music school because I
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really wanted to kind.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Of dive into that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But it was just from there just kind of progressed
and I was always doing hip hop and it was
always kind of where I got connected first with music.
But I always kind of wanted to sing, do that
kind of side of me, and growing up in Vacaville,
which is kind of an agricultural kind of town but still,
you know, we kind of have that sauce because we're
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like right on that border of the Bay Area as well.
So kind of conforming and making the music that I'm
making now is what I always wanted to do. But
back then I didn't really know what that looked like.
I knew that jumping in. I knew how to wrap,
I knew how I knew how to do all this,
and I was really good at it. And I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna kind of see where this goes, and hopefully
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when I start making my own music can kind of
direct producers or kind of.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Tell them what kind of sound that I was going for.
And now here we are.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, I love it, like you blend country and the
hip hop and loong before it became trendy, like yeah,
way before that.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. Like I said, like I.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Came out to Nashville, I was in LA for a
few years and then I met my manager Nick, and
I kind of told him, you know, immediately when I
first sat down because they found me on TikTok course,
and I was like, hey, I just want you to know,
like I'm not just a rapper, like I'm a I'm
a songwriter. And I've always said that first and foremost.
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I'm a writer first more than anything.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And he was like, no, I know, and he's like,
what what do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And I was like, well, I kind of want to
integrate like country pop and with hip hop and kind
of make it like saucy.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
And that's what I always say.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
My favorite word is like saucy, cause that's kind of
like what it is like. Kind of crazy too, because
I felt like I was a littlehead of the curve.
I came out here in twenty twenty two and I
was shopping wild Card and trying to and everybody was.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Like, whoa, this is a little bit too like to
off the.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Richter scale, especially in the country space at Nashville. And
now it's artist natural, ye, And so now there's like
a scene but you know what I mean, it's kind
of like in its own little niche kind of thing,
but now it's exploding even bigger and you see people
coming from every direction kind of doing that sound.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's actually to see that it's it's branching out and.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
It's finally becoming you started it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I wouldn't say I started it. There was probably definitely
a lot of people that came before me. But I
will say that it was one of those things where
I feel like, yeah, in twenty twenty two, when I
first started kind of coming out here and releasing it
and trying to find producers, and it was it was hard. Actually,
when I first came out here, I was really excited.
I came out here for three weeks just to kind
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of like feel everything out, and had like twelve sessions
lined up, and every single one of them canceled on
me except for one.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
When I first came out here. Yeah, I think it was.
I think it was because they just didn't really know
what to expect. I didn't have any music out.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
They just knew me, like they just saw my TikTok
following and my freestyles and stuff like.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
That, and they were kind of like, what I was
this gonna yeah, like what are we going to make?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't have anything, So I don't blame them in
that aspect, But it's it's funny because now it's it's
a funny story to tell and everything kind of doing
so well, and I'm finally making the music that I've
always wanted to make. It's really cool kind of see
how it blossomed and how I just stuck with it
and kept going and.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
We love that.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Then that's why we like to showcase artists like you.
It's like taking your own unique style and it's like
your dream, right and you're and you're watching it's your
baby and to see it right now, come to fruition
and it's it's so successful. That's that must be an
amazing feeling. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Oh, for sure, definitely.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I think I think it's also a sign of persistence
that you just have to keep going regardless if people
get it.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
There's a lot of people that aren't gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But if they don't get it, then that's almost a
good thing because then you're doing something that just hasn't
been done before.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
But like I said, there were you know what I mean.
And then later on I.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Found out that there was like a whole community of
like like a hip hop community or what they call
it or whatever. Yeah, that kind of like and I
was like, oh, there are people that kind of do this.
But I do feel like I'm not necessarily in that
genre specific I feel like it's like country.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Pop, like I said, with a little bit of sauce.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Like I kind of I wrap too, so I kind
of like to incorporate everything together. It's not like I'm
just full on wrapping country. It's you know what I mean,
It's a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
A good blend, very good blends.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Exactly like a pop esque country sound, which is which
is cool, and it allows me to kind of go
in different songwriting directions that I really want to go
to and storytelling and stuff that I really love doing.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So are you still writing music for other artists? Yeah? Yes,
just focusing on you.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah no, uh so when the it depends on the project,
so I get reached out to sometimes. I definitely love
doing that still. Like I said, I've always considered myself
a writer first, So it's always fun and it's fun
to kind of wear different different faces or different artists,
and one of my favorite things is I like to
dive into that artist's catalog and try and write from
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their perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
So do you feel like you're ahead of the curve
or being ahead of the curve? Do you feel that
it gave you an advantage of being one of the
first to have that sound or do you think it
still has challenges?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I think it still has challenges obviously. I think that
the music industry in general is always changing. So that's
kind of back to kind of what I was saying
about always just exercising and you know what I mean,
even writing for other people, even writing outside your genre
sometimes is always like good to do just because you
want to stay sharp, you want to stay current, you
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want to make sure that you're ahead of a curve
instead of just following one.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
And I think that's what's important and also knowing your strengths.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I wouldn't say that, I'm like, I like to try
and be ahead of the curve in a way. I
feel like when I first started kind of doing what
I was doing, it was almost like a tree in
the woods in a way because it was so new
and such a fresh kind of sound that was that
was happening. But now you know, with all these there's
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so many major artists that are now kind of crossing
over from you know, hip hop worlds to whatever. I
would say that, like, obviously Jelly Roll was the first
person that really kind of transitioned from like the real
hip hop world to.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
The country space.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
But you know, I kind of not necessarily followed suit,
but I always knew that that's what I wanted to
do too, And I'm just kind of keep my head
down and just kind of focus on what I'm doing
and love what I'm doing, and kind of whatever plays out,
it's going to play out. In that aspect, try not
to think too much about it and just enjoy where
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I'm at and the fact that I'm making the music
that I've always wanted to make and just being authentic
to myself.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
You know, we love that. And your debut single Church, Yes,
they made top fifty on iTunes, right, that's.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Amazing debut, which was really really crazy and I wasn't expecting. Yeah,
especially doing that transition where it was like one of
the first singles that I put out and from everybody
knowing so much of the hip hop stuff that I
did was kind of nerve racking because it was a
little bit more of a singing song as well me
being insecure about my voice for so long and singing
and kind of integrating that into my sound.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I was really nervous on how people were going to
react to that.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, that was the second part of the question, is like,
do you feel like that was a turning point in
your career that getting through the.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Top fifty For sure.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'd like to say that, you know, the universe kind
of gives you signs on specific things, and maybe it's
not gonna be like overnight, or it's going to be this,
or it's not going to be you know what.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
I mean exactly how you anticipated. I mean, everybody when they.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Put out a song, in the back of their mind,
whether they want to admit it or.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Not, it's going to be like this is going to
be a smash. Everyone's gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's it's so good, you know it's gonna be number one,
or else you wouldn't be, you know what I mean,
doing what you're doing. You wouldn't believe in yourself as
much to put in the time and the effort to
really put yourself out there and do what you're doing
at a specific level. Yeah, I just kind of took
that as I'm exactly where I need to be. This
is exactly, this feels right. I love it, and most
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of all, like I love what I'm doing, like I
love the music that I'm making. I've never made more
music that I've been connected to that felt more authentic
to me than what I'm making now. So yes, nearly
the universe is in support of that. So I just
got to keep going and keeping.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
You're challenging yourself exactly, Yeah, and it's working out and.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Kind of trying to make a new sound in a way,
you know what I mean saying in that In that
you know, having country elements but also being pop but
also incorporating that hip hop element that I grew up making.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
It's authentic to me.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I couldn't be happier with with what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
And what are you currently working on?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, so we're actually so I've been putting out singles
for the past you know, two three years, two and
a half years or so. Ultimately I want to put
out an album probably during fall, around fall time is
what we're projecting. Obviously, things could happen. I'm always writing
and I'm always creating new stuff, and this is the
next one, No, this is the next one. Wait, no,
this one beat this one. No, I like this one
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more so I'm always kind of but it's also such
a beautiful thing because I feel like as an artist,
that's what you want to continue doing is leveling up
and making sure that your next, your next single beats
your last single.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Like oh, it just keeps getting.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Better and better and I'm learning more and I know more,
and it just it makes it more fun, it makes
it more challenging, like you said on yourself, because you're like, no,
I want to beat that last like that single, Like
everyone loves that like everyone loves wild Card, Well guess
what they're gonna love when I drink?
Speaker 4 (43:35):
You know what I mean. It's it's a different vibe,
but it's, you know, still in that same realm.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I love thee. My favorite line was he doesn't like
when I drink, and I don't like it when he thinks,
but I don't like him like he thinks. Yeah, got
it wrong. I love that one.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Honestly, that works too, though.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It's so funny because a lot of people, a lot
of people get that too, and they'll be like, oh man,
I don't like it when he thinks, but it's it.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Is so true, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
And it's so funny too because with when I Drink specifically,
it's such a cheeky fun song and you'd be amazed
how many people get so like bent out.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Of shape about it. And I'm like, come on, like,
it's a cheeky, fun song.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know how many times, like you've probably been out
or even just something like I are you been dating
a guy or you meet a guy and.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
He's like, I don't like it when you drink. It's like,
well I don't like you like you?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, you know, like it's just one of those fun,
fun songs to go out to and get ready for
girls night or just I want.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
To make a song for the girls. Yeah, you know,
that's exactly what we did.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Do you actually go downtown? So this was our first
time to Nashville? Really? Yes, So going downtown last night
was really cool seeing all the bars, all the people,
and every bar had a different band or performer. Yes,
and you couldn't hear from the next bar over like
the it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But like sound installation is crazy those bars, Like I
don't know how.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
They do it.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I don't know, except for when you're walking you can
just hear everything, but then when you go inside you
can just hear that band.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah. Do you perform at any of these bars?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Not necessarily on Broadway? I haven't. I haven't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Well, I've done like Whiskey Jam, I've done like Riley's
Duck Blind, I've done the Listening Room. So I've done
like a lot of like the showcases and stuff in Nashville.
But I wouldn't say I have been like a Broadway performer.
So there's kind of like different girls. So there that's
like a whole entity of its own that's like.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
A whole beast of its own.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And honestly, I give props to them because the amount
of they, I mean, mail perform for like five hours
straight and just hustle and play and sing and take requests,
and the amount of knowledge of just songs that you
have to have because you have to stay on top
of it and stay current. I don't even know if
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I could do it. So I give so much props
to them because I as much as I would love to,
and probably at one point I would, I would love
to just do it just for a night to see.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
You know what I mean to do it to say like, yeah,
I did like pay but but I have not yet.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
No do you have any concerts or shows coming up
or planning?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
So right now I've just been really toning and focusing
on on just getting all my projects together and just
getting everything ready to go.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
So I've been recording a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
But I'm hoping, Yeah, during fall, I'm hoping to hopefully
like open or do like a small mini tour, do
a couple of shows.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Kind of outside of Nashville.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I really want to go back to my hometown and
do a show that's like been a really big thing
that I want to do high on my list, I would.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Say, so you're all turning out on the floor.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, we're working towards it right now.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
And you never know us musicians like exactly, but that's
kind of the game plan, that's kind of the goal.
I feel like we put out enough seeing I feel like, yeah,
I feel like I'm ready for that. And I don't
necessarily know what that track list is gonna look like.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Obviously it's gonna have a lot of.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Singles that I that I put out already, or like
an EP or some type of project.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
But it's always been a dream of way two to
just put out a full project.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
So I think that's gonna be something I'm really working towards.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So where can our listeners find your music and get
in touch with you?
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, so I'm I mean, I'm across all social media,
how we read on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
And that's our show for this week. Thank you so
much for tuning in. Be sure to tune in next
week for our part two of our Nashville trip. We
have Mary Claire on the show. Next week. You're listening
to Shauna and Laala. Check us out at Shauna and
lala dot com on all social media platforms at Shauna
(47:49):
and Laala. You can follow me on Instagram at the
real Shawna May.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
And check me out at Bella Underscore Laala one, two five.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
We will see you next week
From the heart of the city, where the beat beats
the rhythm of your day.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Shawna.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's up. You're listening to Shauna and La La. Check
us out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all
social media platforms at Shauna and La La. You could
follow me on Instagram at the Real Shorna May.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And check me out at Bella Underscore Lalla one two five.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We are still recuperating from our trip to Nashville.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I feel like I'm not back to myself normal self.
I'm still it's been how long, like a week? Yeah,
and I'm not still catching up on my sleep. That's
how I feel.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
That's how I feel too. I just feel like I
can't sleep enough.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I mean, I don't sleep well even if I try.
But I just I still feel very worn out, that's
the word for it. And I think it's been a
I probably I head back to back vacations and although
vacations are fun, traveling can be stressful, and especially when
like Nashville, I didn't sleep at all and it's a
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lot so your body. It does. I feel like your
body takes a while to get back to normal, and
I think that for me, it was emotionally hard because
I had to leave my kids, and any parent out
there knows how hard that is, or maybe some don't,
because I feel like a lot of people I know
left and right, I see them on a mom's trip
or a girl's trip or a business trip, and they're
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you know, they're not with their kids. So for me
it was harder. I've never left Julina. She's going to
be four in October, and I was never without her
more than a day, so that was really difficult for me.
I got through it, it was okay, but I think
the emotional wear and tear on that Sean, I could
tell you I was crying when I came to pick
her up to go to the airport, and I was
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really upset. I was crying the whole way.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
You were you were crying there.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Too, Yeah, so's it's hard and I think that that
definitely took a toll on me. So I feel for
parents who have to go through that and it's hard,
but I know that it is needed. I gotta start
to cut the mumbilical cord there.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So what did you think of Nashville. It was my
first time actually going to the downtown, the city of Nashville.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I loved it. I think the energy there was what
I loved most about Nashville. Just walking through the crowds
and crowd there was so many people.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
It was almost like Manhattan.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Manhattan on like not just every day Manhattan. It was crazy.
It was crazy because in Manhattan I have a little
space to walk. There you were just bumpered a bumper,
like not bumpered to bump a person, a person walking.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, we were all like sardines.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah. So to me, you know, like maybe I don't
know an event going on in the city, then you know,
that's what it was like. But so in thousands and
thousands of people, the energy, the bands, the music, the lights,
the the just how everyone was there to have a
good time. I loved that and you could feel that
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as you walk down the street. What me and Seana
loved the most too, was so you have these bars
back to back to back, like all next to each other,
and they all have open windows, so there's no bait
like glass plane window on the front of the bar.
It's open, and each window has a band playing on
a stage right by the window, and as you pass them,
you're hearing, you know, like you're passing one's like blinkin
(03:34):
eighty two is they're playing that right there, and then
the next one is playing like a Jone Jet song
and the next one's playing a Miranda Lambert song and
you don't hear those songs until you get right in
front of it. And it's just like I loved it
so much, Like that was so cool to experience.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
It really was. And I was just taken back by,
like you couldn't hear what the next bar was.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Playing now because you were just all you could hear
is what they were playing. And as soon as you
got past it was like boom, like switching the radio station.
I thought that was so cool.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, it was. It was amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And they're all so talented, and I love that about Nashville.
There's just so much talent that you're like wow, Like
you know the musicians and clubs that are out there now,
but to just think about how how many everyday average
Joe's out there were all this talent that aren't out
there in the big lights, that haven't made it, but
they could. They could definitely get a record label so easily.
(04:27):
So that was really cool. Is to see that, Like
we went and saw Todd Cameron. It's funny because her
so good. Yeah, my friends will followed him, well, not
all of them. A few of my friends followed them.
And one of my friends actually knows him. And I
walked in not even knowing he was playing, and I'm
like this, his name sounds familiar, what the heck? And
I'm standing there and watching and yeah, he was absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Is he from our area?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
No, I don't believe he is, but he's he's down
there and he just the talent is oozing out of him,
and the way he works a crowd is just it
was crazy. But what I heard from a friend, like
who's friends with him, He was saying that Nashville used
to be a place where artists went to showcase their
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music and get discovered, get discovered by playing their original music.
Then once these bachelorette parties started going there, and Nashville
became this hot spot for partygoers and the bachelorette parties.
And you can imagine, we saw it firsthand. All these
little drunk girls. What are they gonna want to hear?
They're gonna want to hear theirs songs that they're playing.
Can you play Britney spears. Can you play you know
(05:38):
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, and their outfits.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I just.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, every time we would be walking down the street,
I'm like, Lauren, look at this one.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, they're butt cheeks hanging out and shaking their booties
on those things.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
The buses, the buses that went by.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
It was insane.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
It was.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean, I'm gonna get to that. But going back, so,
all these young girls are going there and they want
to hear their pop music. They want to hear the
songs that they like. They don't want to hear original music.
So they start either they're leaving. If you're playing original music,
they're leaving, or if you play the songs they request,
they're sticking around.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
You know.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So it became Nashville became like less original and now
they're like cover bands. And I feel for him. I
feel for all those artists out there. I think we
were talking to Kobe Read, you know, when we did
our interview, and she said, it's hard. She gives them
a lot of credit because they had, you know, many
songs they had to memorize. They could they could play anything.
That's that's insane, that is absolutely I used to be
(06:37):
in a band and we had a practice, like I
think we had a set of seven songs, and we
had practice and practice and practice, and could I can't
even imagine if we had to know over a hundred
songs just randomly, like Kami Kazi. It like who's gonna
what are they gonna ask for today? I give them
so much credit. So but he was great, and like
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every artist we saw was absolutely.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
He was great. We should really get him on the show.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I would love that. I would love it. And the
other cool part was that after we were I think
I left you or maybe you were with me. No, no,
you went back to the hotel. I was roam in
the streets the first night. I wanted to check out
Kyote Ugly because I love that movie. Growing up, I
used to be a Coyote Ugly girl in our local
town bars. I just sang and danced on the bars.
(07:26):
You know, probably could get in trouble for that, but
we it was great. So I needed to go to
Coyote and you did it sober? I did. I don't drink,
so yes, I was on the bar dancing and singing
sober and it was it was great. You know, I
loved it. I loved entertaining like that, and we did
the water fight. I have videos of it. It's like
when I look back at it, I'm like, oh my god,
(07:47):
my kids are gonna see this one day. But it
was fun. So, you know, I had to go to
Coyote Ugly and I was very disappointed.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I was.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So I walked into this place and I'm like, this
is not what I thought Coyote Ugly would be. There
was about a bunch of older women on the bar dancing,
not the workers, but like customers. It was very weird.
I ended up leaving, but I went into Old Red
again because you know, I saw Todd Cameron the night before,
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and I went in there to see who was playing.
And I look up on the screen and it says
Hudson Valley Band and we're from the Hudson Valley guys. Yeah,
And then I remembered, oh my god, I'm an idiot.
My friend from up here in the Hudson Valley and
his wife and they have a band and they moved
down to Nashville and it's called the Hudson Valley Band.
(08:35):
So my friend was there and his wife, so I
was like, oh, Rich is here. He's the drummer of
the band. His wife is the singer. She is so so,
so freaking good. The whole band is good. But that
was cool to see someone from our hometown in a bar, right.
I wasn't expecting it, like you know, so that was
really cool for me.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Nashville just really reminded me of like Broadway in New
York City.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, yeah, I could see that definitely, but with I
don't know, I feel like it was like a cooler,
cooler crowd. Maybe I don't know. I haven't been to
Manhattan in year, so you would know better than me.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, I haven't been there on years either, so yeah,
but I mean it just reminded me. And it's funny
because it was only like one strip, like one street.
It wasn't even like the whole street. It was like
half of the street was just bars and just entertainment
non stop. And then it's like you turn the corner
(09:36):
and it's like you're in like what we call like Middletown. Yeah.
It was quieter and quieter except except at night. The
uh there was motorcycles going by, couldn't sleep, fire trucks
going police.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, you know, part of I guess being in the city.
It's crazy, but I felt safe there. I have to say.
I would not feel as safe as I did in
New York City on New York City streets, Oh no.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
And I felt super safe there. There was cops like
every few feet. Security was outside of every bar, in
every bar. They were on top of their ship. We
saw at one point they were like kicking people out.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah, they were. They were definitely on there, on top
of things. There's I feel they have to deal with
a lot. There's the inebriation on that tree of people
being wasted out of their minds was absolutely insane. Oh
my god, insane.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
There.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
We were walking back the first night, I believe, and
some drunk guy he couldn't even walk straight. He kept
bumping into my mom and he like almost like ran
right indoor. Yeah, well he did run right indoor and
he almost like pushed her over. I was like, what
are you doing? Yeah, So I was like, I was like,
come here. I was like, just slow down, let him go,
you know, up ahead of us.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah. That doesn't work all the time. No, Right, So
I promised you guys a crazy story. I mean, maybe
it's not that crazy, but it was a scary story,
and it had to do with I went out every
night by myself, pretty much like you know, Shona went back,
you know, at a certain time, and I was like,
I'm gonna stay out. I'm a partier. I love partying,
(11:16):
I love bands, love you know, walking around. So everyone
was telling me, don't do that. It's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, my friends were all saying, be careful, it's dangerous.
It's you know, don't stay out too late. And I'm
thinking to myself. After the first night, I'm like, why,
Like this is fine.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, that's what I was saying. So the first night
I went out, I stayed till like midnight. I'm like, oh,
And I made a post that I was saying I
was fine. Everything was fine. It was great everyone. You know,
there's a lot of people. I felt safe.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It was a Thursday night.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, Saturday night, it's a whole different ballpark I had.
I went out. I wanted to see my friend's band,
the Hudson Valley. They were playing again, so I went
and watched them, and I was having such a good
time that I didn't realize the time. Once I looked,
I'm like, oh my god, it's almost two in the morning.
So I started, I said my goodbyes, I started heading out,
(12:04):
and as soon as I exited that old red bar,
I could feel the shift in the crowd and it
was different. It was a different crowd out there, and
I'm like, I have to walk how many blocks to
my hotel by myself? And I don't feel safe right?
And it was okay. I was like, all right, maybe
I'm just being dramatic. So I start walking and I
felt soon as I walked out of that bar, I
(12:26):
felt like someone was following me, and I have like
a good you know, people have gut feelings. I had
a gut feeling someone was following me, and I kept
looking behind my shoulder and it was hard to tell. Well,
after a few blocks, I still felt that way, and
I noticed this guy was walking alongside of me. He
was closer to the road, I was closer to the buildings,
and he was just walking in step with me. And
(12:47):
if I slowed down, he slowed down. And he kept
looking at me and then looking away really quick, like
really awkward, you know, And I'm like, hmm, should I
overreact about this or you know, the guy was very
well dressed, clean, you know, he didn't look like a
homeless guy. He didn't look like a weirdo, but I
was getting a bad gut feeling. So after it kept
going on, I'm like, I'm just gonna stop. I'm gonna
(13:08):
go to the wall. I try to find someone safe.
And yeah, I passed a few security guards, but they
were dealing with their own drama that I'm like, they're
not gonna be able to help me, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
So I saw these two men that were in the
inlet of this wall. I didn't know them. They were
there smoking, talking to each other, and I just like,
those guys, I'm gonna go buy them. So I put
my back to the wall by them, not really close
but in their area, and I'm like, let me see
if I'm overreacting. Maybe the guy is gonna go and
just keep walking. Well, I stopped put my back against
the wall, and the guy kept walking, and I'm like, Lauren,
(13:42):
you're such an idiot, like you always freak out about things.
And just as I was thinking those thoughts, the guy
stopped dead in his track and he just stood there
and I'm like, oh shit. He turned around, looked me
in the eye and ran at me like he belined
it right to me and he put his nose like
his nose was an inch from my face and he
grabbed my hand, my wrist. It wasn't my full hand,
(14:04):
so he had my wrist and my palm in his
hand and he's like, Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm Parker. What's
your name? Hi? I've been watching you. Your eyes are gorgeous.
You have beautiful eyes. And he's that close to my
face and I'm with my other hand because my one
hand he has it, I can't move it. I'm trying
to grab my little weapon I took up me on
the trip, my little keychain weapon just in case you're
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like just stab in. So I'm trying to keep him talking.
I was like, my name's Lauren. I said how are you?
And I'm trying to get it, and that's all I said.
And he was getting closer, and the two guys next
to me noticed. I didn't have to yell, I didn't
have to scream. I didn't have to say anything. They
ran over and were like, who the f are you?
Do you know this guy? And I said no, and
(14:45):
then so they start pushing him and he like, get
away from her, get the f out of here, and
the guy pushed him in the chest. I mean, my
heroes I'm gonna call them, pushed the creep so hard
in the chest. And the creepy guy he had evil
in his eye. I'm telling you guys this, He just
he freaked me out. And he looked at the guy
(15:05):
who pushed him and said, I wouldn't recommend you doing
that again, just like that, just like all the freaking
serial killer movies I've watched, I wouldn't recommend you doing
that again. And I think it freaked them out a
little bit. And then but he kept going at him
and the guy just took off running. The creepy guy ran,
so the one guy chased him down, just kept chasing him,
(15:26):
and the other guy with me is like, are you okay?
And I'm like, I'm okay. I was like, how did
you know that? I how did you know to help me?
He goes, He goes, we're Dad's We just had this
sixth sense that something wasn't right there. And that guy,
he's like, that guy had a really bad look in
his eye. He reminded me of Dexter. And I've never
seen the show.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I've never seen it either, but I've heard about it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, he's like he was like dexter or some kind
of serial killer vibe in his eyes. I said, I
felt the same way, and he's like, that's really scary.
He's like he had your hand. I can't believe he
was like grabbing you that way. I'm like, I know.
I'm like, I don't know what could have happen, and
guys like I really don't because there were people out,
but you just never know, you know, yeah, you never know.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And how did he pick you out of the crowd.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
I know that he must have. Maybe he was in
the bar watching me. That's what I'm wondering. I was
by myself the whole night at that bar, watching my
friends play. I didn't drink, and maybe he will follow
me out of the bar, you know. That's why I
felt that bad vibe as soon as I exited the bar.
I don't know, but long story kind of short. I
think the other guy came back. He's like, I can't
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find him. He ran, he went down an alleyway. I
couldn't find him anymore. I was like, no, thank you
so much. I appreciate it. And he said that guy
had a dexter look in his eye. So I'm like,
what the hell, like we all felt it. And they said,
are you okay? Do you need anything? I said, I
don't know. I got to get back to my hotel.
They're like, you know, do you want us to walk you?
And I said yes. And I know my husband I
(16:51):
first was upset about that. He's like, what if they
were bad? I said, I just felt in my gut
that they were good guys. You know, that's why I
can't And they said, I you sure, We don't want
to make you feel uncomfortable. And they made a joke
that like, we're Canadians. You don't have to worry about us.
We're from Canada. So I was cracking up because you know,
the mid like Canadians are these like super friendly nice people,
you know? Yeah, but they were. They walked me all
(17:14):
the way back to my hotel, right to the door
of the hotel, and I took a picture with them
out to post it. They were great. I didn't even
get their names, but they were so nice and they're
both were dads, and uh, they just had that gut
feeling too. So I want to say this, if we
have any male listeners, or you have sons or husbands
or brothers or boyfriends tell them look out for us women.
(17:37):
We need to be looked out for and as tough
and bad and all these like independent women want to
act like they are, we're not. At the end of
the day, yeah we're not.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
We're not.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And things if you are always aware and looking around
and looking out for people and other women or for women,
that can save our lives just like that. I don't
know what could have happened with this man. I don't
know what he could have done. Maybe he couldn't have
done anything. Maybe he could have hurt me. I don't know.
Maybe he could have drugged me. But no matter what,
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they stepped in and they walked me and made me
feel safe. They walked me right to my hotel room.
And it was just an amazing feeling to know like
that there's still people out there that you can trust.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, definitely, And you know I wouldn't. I would have
been scared to death. I probably would have shipped my pants.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Maybe that would have chased them away. I oh, no,
screwless one.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But on the other hand, there's cops around. Yeah, so
that guy had balls doing what he did.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Mm hmmm. I have to say, though, Shaana, there wasn't
because I would have. Since my husband's a cop, I
was gonna go right to a cop. At that time
of night, there was cop cars in the road with
their lights on, but there have no cops in them,
so I don't know if they were all dealing maybe
with the situation at a bar. But I because I
was looking as I felt this person or felt like
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someone was following me, I was looking like, let me
find a cop, and they were all the cop cars
were empty. They had their lights on, but I'm like,
maybe they're dealing with a fight somewhere. You know, it
could have been.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
So when we were walking back around ten or eleven,
the cop cars were in the road.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, they with the lights on, Okay, they were.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
There was nobody in the cars. They were outside of
the cars watching the crowd.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I didn't see any cops. I mean I saw one,
but that was back closer to Old Red So by
the time I was feeling really scared, there wasn't anyone around.
So that's why I was like, they're probably in a
bar dealing with a fight or something. Probably because I
would have That's who I would have went to right away,
was a cop, Like, hey, I'm an officer's wife. Can
you like just help me here? I don't feel safe.
But luckily I found two great dads from Canada and
(19:42):
I called them my little angels and they were great.
So gott it you. And the other thing I brought
up to Shana is that what's scary is imagine if
I was drunk. Imagine if I was one of these
girls out there drinking my butt off.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Maybe that's what he thought me and I I was told.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
My friend said that Nashville has become a predator's dreamland
because there's so many drunk women out there that it's easy.
It's easy for predators, even if they're not serial killers.
It's easy for predators, rapists, whatever, to take advantage of
these women. And I've got to tell you, there was
so many. They were hanging on me and the bar.
These drunk girls. They don't know what the hell they're doing,
They don't know where they are. That's so dangerous. So again,
(20:23):
for the ladies, please mind your liquor, have fun drinks something,
But you gotta be so careful because that situation could
have gone a whole another way. If I was drunk,
If I was drunk or on drugs that could have
I could have God only knows what could have happened
to me.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, it's so scary. And you know, not everyone is
like us, you know, we don't drink. Yeah, but the
amount of drunk people like I would say ninety eight
percent of the people were drunk.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh yeah. And it's fine, Like it's fine to have
drinks that have fun, like that's fine, we're not against
that or not like these.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, but when you're falling down drunk, you don't know,
you don't know where you are, where you are, you
don't know your name, you don't know your boyfriend's name
or who your boyfriend is. Yeah, you know that's a problem.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
It is, and that could and that guy could have
taken event maybe he does. Maybe that's what that guy does.
He goes around and he gets these drunk women. And
but I think I would look into missing girls over
there and it might be probably know, if there are any,
I wouldn't put it past this man. So yeah, just
be careful, not just in Nashville, anywhere you go, you
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got you have to know your limit for your own safety,
unless you're there with someone who's sober, who can keep
control of you, but a lot of these girl groups
were not. They were all they were all done.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
No. Indeed, the guy that the girl that came up
to you in the bar, her boyfriend could even keep
control over her.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
No, yeah, there was a girl that came up. I
saw a girl being dragged out of the bar by
a man, and Seanna knows me. I step in, Yes,
when I shouldn't because I'm not big, But whenever I
see something going down, I always step in and try
and protect somebody. And this girl was being dragged out,
like by her wrist, and she was screaming and no
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one was doing anything. So I ran over there. I
said are you okay? And he let go of her
and she grabbed me and she just held on to
me so tight, hugging me, and I could tell she
was wasted. And he's like, this is effin bullshit. He
starts cursing, and I'm like, this guy's big. I'm like,
what if he like punches me or something. Yeah, So
I said, is everything okay? And he stormed away, and
then I said to her, are you okay? She's like
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I'm afraid. I said, what are you afraid of? She's like,
I'm from Minnesota, so she didn't even know the conversation
we were having. She says, she's afraid, and then her response
to me is, I'm from Minnesota. Like you're afraid you're
from Minnesota? Or are we having two different conversations here?
But yeah, her boyfriend came back over and she's like,
he's coming back. He's coming back, and I'm like, oh crap,
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what am I gonna do? He's huge. So I just
stood there looking up at him. I'm like, what's the
deal here? He's like, that's my girlfriend and I'm like,
you want her to leave? He's like, yeah, she's drunk.
I said, okay, well she doesn't want to go, and
you know you doesn't look at it. You're pulling her
and he goes, I'll show you pictures. So he took
out his phone. He goes, we have four. I took
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on four of her kids. They're not even mine, and
they had pictures together with kids. Does it mean anything?
Maybe they're separated? I don't know, but he's like I said,
he's like, she's wasted. I want her to go home
and she's like no, And then a guy next to
me finally stepped in. He was brave enough once he
saw me standing up to the guy to step in,
and then that just made matters worse. But yeah, they
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ended up fighting in the bar and then the security
came out, came over and kicked them out. You know,
Like it's crazy to me. So I get it that
even when you are with someone, sometimes you can't control
when people are that wasted.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
No, you can't. And you know security had to deal
with it. And who knows, they were probably fighting in
the parking lot. Yeah, in the streets, and I guarantee
she has no recollection of it.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
No, and the poor guy, I mean, if he's a
good guy. The next day, i'd be pissed at her.
If that was my significant other, I'd be pissed, Like,
you know, I don't don't think this is gonna work out.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, I would be furious.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
It made me look like an a hole. You made
me look like an abusive boyfriend when I'm just trying
to save you and get you out of this place.
I mean, if that's the case, it could have been
a different case, something scarier. But crazy know your limit.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So after that whole situation, we decided we needed a
day of relaxation, well part of a day of relaxation
because we were literally on the go from morning till night.
So we took a few hours to sit by the pool,
which was beautiful. It overlooked the city. It was absolutely gorgeous.
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The water was not cold really at all, and the
whole pool was three foot deep. I couldn't believe that.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It's perfect for it was walk around the whole thing, yeah,
without drowning.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah. I didn't even really go into it because I'm
not one for public pools, but I you know, we
did sit in it for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
My poppy lush beating suit fit me perfectly and it
sucked me all in. I couldn't believe it. I was like,
this is the best beating suit ever.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I told her, I said, Populush is the way to
go if you're trying to hide some of that. You know,
we all all swim and have it, you know, the
little belly, So Populush is just They're amazing with that
Number one, I have to say, with making you look
hot as crap.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I couldn't believe when you said like, oh, it's gonna
suck you in, I'm thinking, oh God, I'm not gonna
be able to breathe, but I was able to breathe.
It was tight, but I was able to breathe.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
And it's comfortable. It's like tight but comfortable somehow. Yeah,
it was beautiful. It was a black, black one piece,
but it was so it just showed her shape. It
was really it was very flattering. Very flattering, that's the
word I was looking for. I love Populus, you know,
I've I bought from them for the past few years
that they've been around dresses mainly, but that bathing suit
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made me. I think I'm gonna have to put one
of those in my bathing suit Arsenal.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
It was beautiful and I'm not one for like one pieces. Yeah,
but I think I'm gonna have to start going into
one pieces because.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
We're getting old.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yes we are. But you wore the populush dress to
Dolly Parton's musical.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Yes, oh my god. I picked out a royal blue populush.
It's like a roofed body con kind of dress. So
it was right above the knees and it was very flattering.
Sucked me in, he hugged me in all the right places.
I loved it. I love the color too, and they
have little shorts under it, so you don't feel like
you're gonna be showing your butt like a lot of
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those girls on the strip, where yeah, it comes with shorts,
so I don't worry about that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
They need to start shopping up Populush.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, but I love that the brand makes you feel sexy,
especially as a mom or as as we're getting older.
It makes you feel sexy. You look sexy, your your
hip and you're sucked in in all the right places.
And I love that about about Populush.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, I love them. I got one of their bras,
and their bras are so comfortable. Yes, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Swears by them.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And like, because of my scoliosis, it doesn't ride up,
you know, the bathing suit fit perfectly. I absolutely love them.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, I highly They have so many different things, so
many muck. They have so many different options on their website.
So there's there's dresses, there's pants or shirts, corsets, the bras,
so there's just something for everyone. And they do cater
to women who are more blessed in the chest. So
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that's how they started was for bigger bust women and
but I'm not and it fits me. It fits me perfect.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So while we were in Nashville, we decided let's meet
up with some local artists and hear their stories. So
we met up with a singer songwriter, Kobe Read. She
was amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I felt, I'm in love with her. I'm in love
with her. I want her to be my best friend.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
She was so cool, she was so nice, so sweet,
and talented, very talented. Oh my gosh, she actually songwrites
for other artists as well.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I know, I thought that was that was just so cool.
And now that she's branching into her own stuff, and
you know, she got such a following just from people
hearing her her. She does like country rap, you know,
and singing, but like she's kind of like meshing the two.
I think it's just genius. It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
It's brilliant. And she started off basically during just making
TikTok videos and she would she told us that she
would just post up a video or two and forget
about him for a few weeks and then post up
some more. And then she noticed, like her videos are
really getting a lot of traction and a lot of attention,
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and she just blew up.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I know, I'm so happy. So it was great talking
to her, catching up and hearing how from where she
came and how far she's going. So and I love
her music. There's a lot of songs that I've just
been playing on repeating. My husband's like, what are you
still listening to her?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'm like, I love it, but I guess we'll jump
in to our interview with her. You're listening to Shauna
and La La Today. We are in Nashville. We are
interviewing singer and songwriter Kobe Read today. I'm so excited
to have you.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So you started on TikTok yes and just up during.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
COVID Yes, which was really really unexpected and really like
a fun kind of story.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I guess you would say an unexpected kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I would say, so, I mean, I guess it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Everybody was home exactly, and that's kind of yeah, that's kind.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Of like how it started. I was a writer. I
originally from northern California, but I moved.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Out to southern California, was going music school and ended
up being music school dropout and was a writer and
that world and the hip hop world for a while.
And I was about to have my first cut I
was really excited about. And then COVID happened and just
everything shut down and I was super bummed, and my
boyfriend I was like, well, like, everyone's home, we're not
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doing anything. We're all, you know what I mean, just
at home, and TikTok's kind of booming. He's like, why
don't we just start filming videos and just post them
and just see what they do. And at that point,
I was kind of in the limbo of being a writer,
but also kind of I'm an only child, so I
always wanted to be an artist, but I was a
little bit insecure about taking that step of doing it.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
And he's like, let's just do it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Let's just throw them on there and post them and
then forget about him and just you know, post them
close the app.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Whatever happens happened.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I was like, okay, and yeah, he just filmed me
in front of these hedges outside of his apartment complex
and I was just like freestyling overbeats that he would play,
and yeah, we would just post them close the app,
post them close the app.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
And I was so funny because.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I was so focused on Instagram at the time, you know,
like promoting and you know what I mean, like posting
them and commenting back that I didn't even think about TikTok.
And then one day we opened the app and we
just posted about like four or five of them back
to back. We opened the app and I had like
one hundred and twenty thousand followers, and we.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Were like, what the hell, what just happened? And then
we went back and.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
We saw, yeah, the I did like a eminem freestyle
of my name is like a yellow jumpsuit and it
had like three hundred thousand views on it overnight. And yeah,
just from there and then we were like, all right,
we's that momentum, Let's keep going. And then we just
posted once to twice a week just different freestyles and
things that I would do, freestyles written like all these
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different things, and songs and stuff that I had archived
or songs that I was pitching for other artists, just
to kind of see if it would get anytraction. And yeah,
just from there it just kind of went off. TikTok
was Cooey read was on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And is that how you got started in industry? Or
I don't know if you were saying beforehand you were
kind of right.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Yeah, So I was trying to kind of break into
it as a writer first and foremost, so the artist
thing came a little bit later. And even when all
the freestyles and stuff were happening, I always kind of
wanted to do the avenue and.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
The music that I was doing now, but I didn't
really know what that looked like.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You know, I grew up writing living an hour outside
of the area in Oakland, California, and San Francisco and
Dominantly that music scene is very hip hop oriented, so
you know, and I didn't come from money, so my parents.
I had a one income family. My dad was a
garbage band, my mom, you know, did dog rescue and stuff.
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And it was one of those things where I had
to make it happen on my own. And it's kind
of get in where you fit in, and if you
were doing any type of pop or country or even
rock around.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
That area, they wanted money from you.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
But the hip hop scene and kind of where I
grew up and all the kids around that were a
little bit older than me, but we're still really into
music in garage band and recording and just finding ripping
beats off YouTube and all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
Yeah, they just kind of I was like twelve years
old and they were like fifteen.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
They're like, hey, we have this makeshift studio. Let's you
know what I mean, start making music. And so that's
kind of how it happened, and I kind of dove
into hip hop. I like I say, hip hop kind
of chose me in that aspect and I just loved
it and I kind of got integrated into that scene
and then decided when I was eighteen, I wanted to
move to LA and went to music school because I
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really wanted to kind.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Of dive into that.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
But it was just from there just kind of progressed
and I was always doing hip hop and it was
always kind of where I got connected first with music.
But I always kind of wanted to sing, do that
kind of side of me, and growing up in Vacaville,
which is kind of an agricultural kind of town but still,
you know, we kind of have that sauce because we're
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like right on that border of the Bay Area as well.
So kind of conforming and making the music that I'm
making now is what I always wanted to do. But
back then I didn't really know what that looked like.
I knew that jumping in. I knew how to wrap,
I knew how I knew how to do all this,
and I was really good at it. And I was like, Okay,
I'm gonna kind of see where this goes, and hopefully
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when I start making my own music can kind of
direct producers or kind of.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Tell them what kind of sound that I was going for.
And now here we are.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, I love it, like you blend country and the
hip hop and loong before it became trendy, like yeah,
way before that.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Yeah, so it's kind of crazy. Like I said, like I.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Came out to Nashville, I was in LA for a
few years and then I met my manager Nick, and
I kind of told him, you know, immediately when I
first sat down because they found me on TikTok course,
and I was like, hey, I just want you to know,
like I'm not just a rapper, like I'm a I'm
a songwriter. And I've always said that first and foremost.
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I'm a writer first more than anything.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
And he was like, no, I know, and he's like,
what what do you want to do?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
And I was like, well, I kind of want to
integrate like country pop and with hip hop and kind
of make it like saucy.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
And that's what I always say.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
My favorite word is like saucy, cause that's kind of
like what it is like. Kind of crazy too, because
I felt like I was a littlehead of the curve.
I came out here in twenty twenty two and I
was shopping wild Card and trying to and everybody was.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Like, whoa, this is a little bit too like to
off the.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Richter scale, especially in the country space at Nashville. And
now it's artist natural, ye, And so now there's like
a scene but you know what I mean, it's kind
of like in its own little niche kind of thing,
but now it's exploding even bigger and you see people
coming from every direction kind of doing that sound.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
It's kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
It's actually to see that it's it's branching out and.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
It's finally becoming you started it.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I wouldn't say I started it. There was probably definitely
a lot of people that came before me. But I
will say that it was one of those things where
I feel like, yeah, in twenty twenty two, when I
first started kind of coming out here and releasing it
and trying to find producers, and it was it was hard. Actually,
when I first came out here, I was really excited.
I came out here for three weeks just to kind
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of like feel everything out, and had like twelve sessions
lined up, and every single one of them canceled on
me except for one.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
When I first came out here. Yeah, I think it was.
I think it was because they just didn't really know
what to expect. I didn't have any music out.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
They just knew me, like they just saw my TikTok
following and my freestyles and stuff like.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
That, and they were kind of like, what I was
this gonna yeah, like what are we going to make?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I don't have anything, So I don't blame them in
that aspect, But it's it's funny because now it's it's
a funny story to tell and everything kind of doing
so well, and I'm finally making the music that I've
always wanted to make. It's really cool kind of see
how it blossomed and how I just stuck with it
and kept going and.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
We love that.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Then that's why we like to showcase artists like you.
It's like taking your own unique style and it's like
your dream, right and you're and you're watching it's your
baby and to see it right now, come to fruition
and it's it's so successful. That's that must be an
amazing feeling. That's all I have to say.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Oh, for sure, definitely.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I think I think it's also a sign of persistence
that you just have to keep going regardless if people
get it.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
There's a lot of people that aren't gonna get it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
But if they don't get it, then that's almost a
good thing because then you're doing something that just hasn't
been done before.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
But like I said, there were you know what I mean.
And then later on I.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Found out that there was like a whole community of
like like a hip hop community or what they call
it or whatever. Yeah, that kind of like and I
was like, oh, there are people that kind of do this.
But I do feel like I'm not necessarily in that
genre specific I feel like it's like country.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
Pop, like I said, with a little bit of sauce.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Like I kind of I wrap too, so I kind
of like to incorporate everything together. It's not like I'm
just full on wrapping country. It's you know what I mean,
It's a little bit of.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
A good blend, very good blends.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Exactly like a pop esque country sound, which is which
is cool, and it allows me to kind of go
in different songwriting directions that I really want to go
to and storytelling and stuff that I really love doing.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
So are you still writing music for other artists? Yeah? Yes,
just focusing on you.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yeah no, uh so when the it depends on the project,
so I get reached out to sometimes. I definitely love
doing that still. Like I said, I've always considered myself
a writer first, So it's always fun and it's fun
to kind of wear different different faces or different artists,
and one of my favorite things is I like to
dive into that artist's catalog and try and write from
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their perspective.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
So do you feel like you're ahead of the curve
or being ahead of the curve? Do you feel that
it gave you an advantage of being one of the
first to have that sound or do you think it
still has challenges?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I think it still has challenges obviously. I think that
the music industry in general is always changing. So that's
kind of back to kind of what I was saying
about always just exercising and you know what I mean,
even writing for other people, even writing outside your genre
sometimes is always like good to do just because you
want to stay sharp, you want to stay current, you
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want to make sure that you're ahead of a curve
instead of just following one.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
And I think that's what's important and also knowing your strengths.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
I wouldn't say that, I'm like, I like to try
and be ahead of the curve in a way. I
feel like when I first started kind of doing what
I was doing, it was almost like a tree in
the woods in a way because it was so new
and such a fresh kind of sound that was that
was happening. But now you know, with all these there's
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so many major artists that are now kind of crossing
over from you know, hip hop worlds to whatever. I
would say that, like, obviously Jelly Roll was the first
person that really kind of transitioned from like the real
hip hop world to.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
The country space.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
But you know, I kind of not necessarily followed suit,
but I always knew that that's what I wanted to
do too, And I'm just kind of keep my head
down and just kind of focus on what I'm doing
and love what I'm doing, and kind of whatever plays out,
it's going to play out. In that aspect, try not
to think too much about it and just enjoy where
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I'm at and the fact that I'm making the music
that I've always wanted to make and just being authentic
to myself.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
You know, we love that. And your debut single Church, Yes,
they made top fifty on iTunes, right, that's.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Amazing debut, which was really really crazy and I wasn't expecting. Yeah,
especially doing that transition where it was like one of
the first singles that I put out and from everybody
knowing so much of the hip hop stuff that I
did was kind of nerve racking because it was a
little bit more of a singing song as well me
being insecure about my voice for so long and singing
and kind of integrating that into my sound.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
I was really nervous on how people were going to
react to that.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yeah, that was the second part of the question, is like,
do you feel like that was a turning point in
your career that getting through the.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Top fifty For sure.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
I'd like to say that, you know, the universe kind
of gives you signs on specific things, and maybe it's
not gonna be like overnight, or it's going to be this,
or it's not going to be you know what.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
I mean exactly how you anticipated. I mean, everybody when they.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
Put out a song, in the back of their mind,
whether they want to admit it or.
Speaker 4 (41:43):
Not, it's going to be like this is going to
be a smash. Everyone's gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
It's it's so good, you know it's gonna be number one,
or else you wouldn't be, you know what I mean,
doing what you're doing. You wouldn't believe in yourself as
much to put in the time and the effort to
really put yourself out there and do what you're doing
at a specific level. Yeah, I just kind of took
that as I'm exactly where I need to be. This
is exactly, this feels right. I love it, and most
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of all, like I love what I'm doing, like I
love the music that I'm making. I've never made more
music that I've been connected to that felt more authentic
to me than what I'm making now. So yes, nearly
the universe is in support of that. So I just
got to keep going and keeping.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
You're challenging yourself exactly, Yeah, and it's working out and.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Kind of trying to make a new sound in a way,
you know what I mean saying in that In that
you know, having country elements but also being pop but
also incorporating that hip hop element that I grew up making.
Speaker 4 (42:37):
It's authentic to me.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
I couldn't be happier with with what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
And what are you currently working on?
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, so we're actually so I've been putting out singles
for the past you know, two three years, two and
a half years or so. Ultimately I want to put
out an album probably during fall, around fall time is
what we're projecting. Obviously, things could happen. I'm always writing
and I'm always creating new stuff, and this is the
next one, No, this is the next one. Wait, no,
this one beat this one. No, I like this one
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more so I'm always kind of but it's also such
a beautiful thing because I feel like as an artist,
that's what you want to continue doing is leveling up
and making sure that your next, your next single beats
your last single.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Like oh, it just keeps getting.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Better and better and I'm learning more and I know more,
and it just it makes it more fun, it makes
it more challenging, like you said on yourself, because you're like, no,
I want to beat that last like that single, Like
everyone loves that like everyone loves wild Card, Well guess
what they're gonna love when I drink?
Speaker 4 (43:35):
You know what I mean. It's it's a different vibe,
but it's, you know, still in that same realm.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
I love thee. My favorite line was he doesn't like
when I drink, and I don't like it when he thinks,
but I don't like him like he thinks. Yeah, got
it wrong. I love that one.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Honestly, that works too, though.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
It's so funny because a lot of people, a lot
of people get that too, and they'll be like, oh man,
I don't like it when he thinks, but it's it.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Is so true, you know.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
And it's so funny too because with when I Drink specifically,
it's such a cheeky fun song and you'd be amazed
how many people get so like bent out.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
Of shape about it. And I'm like, come on, like,
it's a cheeky, fun song.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know how many times, like you've probably been out
or even just something like I are you been dating
a guy or you meet a guy and.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
He's like, I don't like it when you drink. It's like,
well I don't like you like you?
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, you know, like it's just one of those fun,
fun songs to go out to and get ready for
girls night or just I want.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
To make a song for the girls. Yeah, you know,
that's exactly what we did.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Do you actually go downtown? So this was our first
time to Nashville? Really? Yes, So going downtown last night
was really cool seeing all the bars, all the people,
and every bar had a different band or performer. Yes,
and you couldn't hear from the next bar over like
the it's so weird.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But like sound installation is crazy those bars, Like I
don't know how.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
They do it.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
I don't know, except for when you're walking you can
just hear everything, but then when you go inside you
can just hear that band.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
Yeah. Do you perform at any of these bars?
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Not necessarily on Broadway? I haven't. I haven't done that yet.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Well, I've done like Whiskey Jam, I've done like Riley's
Duck Blind, I've done the Listening Room. So I've done
like a lot of like the showcases and stuff in Nashville.
But I wouldn't say I have been like a Broadway performer.
So there's kind of like different girls. So there that's
like a whole entity of its own that's like.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
A whole beast of its own.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
And honestly, I give props to them because the amount
of they, I mean, mail perform for like five hours
straight and just hustle and play and sing and take requests,
and the amount of knowledge of just songs that you
have to have because you have to stay on top
of it and stay current. I don't even know if
(45:59):
I could do it. So I give so much props
to them because I as much as I would love to,
and probably at one point I would, I would love
to just do it just for a night to see.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
You know what I mean to do it to say like, yeah,
I did like pay but but I have not yet.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
No do you have any concerts or shows coming up
or planning?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
So right now I've just been really toning and focusing
on on just getting all my projects together and just
getting everything ready to go.
Speaker 4 (46:28):
So I've been recording a lot.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
But I'm hoping, Yeah, during fall, I'm hoping to hopefully
like open or do like a small mini tour, do
a couple of shows.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
Kind of outside of Nashville.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I really want to go back to my hometown and
do a show that's like been a really big thing
that I want to do high on my list, I would.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
Say, so you're all turning out on the floor.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, we're working towards it right now.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
And you never know us musicians like exactly, but that's
kind of the game plan, that's kind of the goal.
I feel like we put out enough seeing I feel like, yeah,
I feel like I'm ready for that. And I don't
necessarily know what that track list is gonna look like.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Obviously it's gonna have a lot of.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Singles that I that I put out already, or like
an EP or some type of project.
Speaker 4 (47:13):
But it's always been a dream of way two to
just put out a full project.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
So I think that's gonna be something I'm really working towards.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
So where can our listeners find your music and get
in touch with you?
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, so I'm I mean, I'm across all social media,
how we read on all platforms.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
And that's our show for this week. Thank you so
much for tuning in. Be sure to tune in next
week for our part two of our Nashville trip. We
have Mary Claire on the show. Next week. You're listening
to Shauna and Laala. Check us out at Shauna and
lala dot com on all social media platforms at Shauna
(47:49):
and Laala. You can follow me on Instagram at the
real Shawna May.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
And check me out at Bella Underscore Laala one, two five.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
We will see you next week
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