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July 23, 2025 21 mins
This week on Life Beyond The Mic, Shawna and LaLa unpack one of the most talked-about viral video from Coldplay’s concert.  Is there more to the story?  Shawna shares a personal health update that  she’s been diagnosed with a hernia and is preparing to meet with a surgeon. She opens up about how she’s feeling, what’s next, and how she’s navigating it all.  Meanwhile, LaLa introduces the newest visitor in her life...  A baby squirrel she rehabbed who keeps coming back to say hello. Plus, pet parents will want to hear about the Four Leaf Rover supplement she’s using to help Cayman’s ongoing skin and yeast issues an,d why it’s working.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From the heart of the city, where the beat meets
the rhythm of your day.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
It's Shawna.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
What's up. You're listening to Shauna and Lalla. Check us
out at Shauna and Lala dot com on all social
media platforms at Shauna and Lalla. You could follow me
on Instagram at the real Shawname.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
And check me out at Bella Underscore La La one
two five.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
It has been quite a week. I went to the
doctors yesterday for a follow up and I indeed have
a hernia.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh God, of course.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, so uh, off to the surgeon in a few weeks.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's never ending with you, never ends.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
I know. I'm just glad that this stupid virus is
out of me, but I'm still inflamed. They said they
could still feel somehow. I don't know how they could
still feel the inflammation.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, yeah, it probably feels differently or it's hard or
you know, swollen, So that definitely I could see that.
Did you see in the news that the couple at
the Coldplay concert?

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yes, it's all over Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
It's like, how can you not see it? But that
it's funny because when I first saw it initially, I
didn't read the headline and when the camera went on them,
I didn't even read the headline to know this situation.
I was like, oh my god, I guarantee they're not
supposed to be there, or they're cheating. And then as
I read, I was like, oh my god, I think
they are cheating.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
You know, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
And the guy from Coleplay, I don't know his name,
but the lead singer, he was like, you're either have
an unfair or you are really.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Uh camera, Yeah, yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
If And I said to my husband, if they would
have acted normal, this wouldn't have happened. No, if they
just stood there and smiled, even though inside the like
chit chit chit. If they stood their smile and the
camera pan to someone else, is there a chance that
someone would recognize them? Of course, but the internet wouldn't
have gone crazy like this exactly at all at all.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It wouldn't been a private matter.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
What are the chances of it's stopping on them.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It's stopping on them, you know, someone said someone someone joked.
I read a comment like, oh, because the intern was
with them too. She was the other girl who hid
her face like ran away. They're they're like guaranteed she paid.
She wants a promotion, she probably paid the camera guys
zoom in on these people because I know they're cheating.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
But yeah, that was insane, And I.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Feel horrible for the spouses of those two because what
a way to find out.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah. Can you imagine like just going on social media
the next day and being like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I wonder, how do we know how long this? Did
this concert happen yesterday night? Or was this concert a
week ago? And now the internet did its thing? You know,
I don't know, but I wonder if the husband or
that girl told their spouse after that content, like listen,
this is what's going on, this is what happened tonight,
and be prepared to hear stuff, or if they kept

(03:12):
it quiet, not knowing it was gonna go viral, and
now it's like boom, you know, and that's that's horrible.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Could you imagine like if I woke up my husband
went out, you know, so I'm going with the boys
of a concert and that was like a few days ago,
and then I wake up today and I went on
my phone and people are texting me and.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
There's video everywhere. My husband holding another woman.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
That's a horrible way to find out that poor girl
and the poor husband on the other side, that's horrible.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah, I don't know what I would. I would probably
beat the crap out.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And those kids, they have the one couple of kids.
The man, oh yeah, he has two kids. I think
his wife is beautiful, and those kids are probably gonna
hear it in school.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
You know.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Yeah, It's just like, cheating is such a selfish, selfish act.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I hate cheaters.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
It's just why why just leave the person you're with.
There's no need to cheat, Just leave them and do
what you gotta do. You know, but you kind of
ruined so many lives when you cheat. And he you
told me he wrote an apology, which I've read, and
he did.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
He wrote an apology and he basically was like, I'm
sorry to my family, to my wife. But if the
band didn't put me on the big screen, nobody, you know,
I would have gotten away with it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
He made an excuse like what, Yeah, it said what
should have been a private moment was made public against
my consent. Yeah, without my without my consent, he said, I.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Respect artists and entertainers, but I hope we can all
think more deeply about the impact of turning someone else's
life and make it into a spectacle.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
No one would care if they weren't doing something wrong.
How about don't do something wrong in the first place. Yeah, exactly,
Like that's that's a narcissist statement.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Like he's turning it around on everybody else.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Now, no one did anything wrong but you and that woman.
You guys are in the wrong, and you took a
risk going out in public and holding each other like that,
and guess what now, Look what happened. So you just
broke hearts and the internet is ripping your life apart.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Sometimes the Internet is good for things. Sometimes it's not.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
But the internet was good for that, And in another way,
the internet could be crappy, like what happened to me today?

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yes, what happened to you?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Lawa?

Speaker 2 (05:38):
I'm a mean girl, bitch? That's what I was told. No,
I told I was told I look like one.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So there's this the video going around of Denise Richards
and her boyfriend husband. I don't really follow some of
these celebs out there, so I don't know her story.
But she's on a show and her husband or boyfriend
got mad at whatever was going on, and they started
to walk away. They were holding hands, and he was
like really looking aggressive, like he was going to start something,

(06:03):
and Denise whispered like no, no, no, stop, let's go,
and he whispered like under his breath so low and said,
don't tell me what to do.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
I'm going to crush your hand very aggressively. He probably didn't.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
He forgot he was miked up. Obviously he forgot he
was miked up. And so I was reading the comments
and a lot of people were like, is this fake
because you know he's on a show, and other people like, no,
he wouldn't thrit an abuse on somebody, you know, even
on a reality show. And then someone said, how does
he forget that he's miked up? I call like, that's

(06:38):
that's BS, Like, how do you forget your micd up?
And I forgot I was miked up when and SHAWNA
can vouch for this when here you did when CBS
News came in to interview me about my son, they
miked me up. I had never been miked up in
my life, so I just they put it under my shirt.
I didn't even know what was there. It was taped
to my shirt. They said, Okay, we're gonna go do

(06:59):
some sound checks in the other room away from me,
and I was sitting there with Shauna in the kitchen,
and I just forgot I was miked up that fast,
and I said, I made a comment about the lady
lady's outfit, and I mean, it wasn't horribly mean, but
she was wearing a very weird outfit for someone from
CBS National News to be coming to interview me on camera.

(07:21):
So I just said, what, like, what the hell is
she wearing, Shauna, and then it clicked. I'm like, shit, shit,
I miked up. Oh my god, they probably heard me.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So anyway, in this comment I wrote that I said, oh,
it's very easy to forget you're miked up. And I
explained what happened to me, and I didn't say what
I said. I just said I made I said a
lady's outfit was weird though who was gonna be interviewing me?
And I realized that they probably heard me.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
I didn't think it was that bad the comment I made,
And oh my god, I got so much hate on
it from all these strangers around the freaking country, and
they're like, yeah, of course you like a mean One
girl said you look like a mean girl. Bitch, you
have a podcast, How do you not know when you're
miked up? I call bullshit on that comment that this

(08:08):
even happened to you. And so she this girl took
the time to go look through my page, sees that
I'm on a podcast and looks through my pictures to say, oh, yeah,
you know what, you look like a mean girl, and
I'm not a mean girl.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I know.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Maybe it wasn't nice, Like I apologize. I shouldn't have
said her outfit was weird, but I didn't. Like, that's
human nature.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
We all do.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
It is everyone like free of ever saying something about
somebody else or judging somebody you know. And then a
few people wrote stuff like that to me like, well,
maybe this teaches you to be a better person and
not talk about people and not you know, I'm like,
oh my god, So this was an instance where the
internet can.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Be just savage. They are savage, man like.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
They I feel like a lot of these people have
no lives and they sit in front of the computer
and it gives them joy to just like, oh, get
their frustration out on putting someone down. Or just starting
an argument with her.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
And I also think that they're they're jealous, could be.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
And I was just about to say something mean again
because the way that girl looked like she should not
be calling.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Me any names.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
So but I'm not going to do that. But like
it's just human nature, you know. She went on and
judged me, said you look like a mean girl, bitch.
So she's doing the same thing that she's yelling at
me for doing. So I don't know it is it's savage.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
It's savage.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I don't know how celebs do it or people who
go viral. Julina's videos are still going viral right now.
On TikTok, I get about fifty comments a day, maybe
twenty five to fifty. I don't even read them anymore
because when I would read them, I would get so
stressed out because some people were like nasty. Some people
were judging me as a parent, like how do you

(09:49):
know why are you telling her to show you how
to wipe and this this and that?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Are you being a sexual?

Speaker 3 (09:55):
You know?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like I couldn't read it anymore. I'm like, oh my god,
they're taking an innocent thing and spinning it. So that's
what you're gonna find with the Internet, and it's like,
it's crazy to me. It really is how warped people think,
or if people are just being trolls to just mess
with you, and that's horrible.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
You know, people can.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Be super nasty. You know. Years ago, I had posted
something and it was it was my opinion, but it
was the truth, and it was about something that happened
local and people that were on my Facebook friends list,
they were like, you're racist or this or this, and

(10:32):
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Yeah, absolutely not.
I am not racist. I am not you know, against
any type of religion. You know, I am the most
understanding person that I think I've ever met in my life. Yeah,

(10:53):
you know, and people just took it the wrong way.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
And they rip you apart, right, they probably ripped you apart.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, they ripped me apart. I ended up like deleting
the post because it was just causing so like people
were just some people were sticking up for me and
others were not, you know, and it was the people
that were like ripping me apart were people who were
not from the area, so they had no idea what
was going on.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, so it was a local situation and they
just took it upon themselves to just they think they
knew what was going on, and they didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Their keyboard warriors, and they get off on doing this stuff.
I truly believe it because I have never I've read
comments that I didn't like, and I hardly respond back
when it's strangers like this, like on.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
A viral post.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
People, I don't have the time to sit there. Sometimes
I might give like that it was the situation I
went through. A girl said, how do you forget your
micd up in the soul? I'm like, oh, I have
knowledge on this because it happened to me. Let me
tell her. So that's sometimes we're I'll write, but I
don't just go on to bash people or like, oh
I'm going to say something nasty to this person, them
rip them apart. Like I don't know why people get

(12:02):
enjoyment out of that. I have a family member who
gets enjoyment out of it. He gets a rise out
of pissing people off. And I'm like, that's just sick,
Like that's sick.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
But if it happened to them, wouldn't they be upset?

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I one hundred percent believe they would. They claim they
wouldn't be, but I know they would.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
They'd be like, what the hell? He would go?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
He I gotta say he would go back and forth
pretty good. I've seen people get pissed at him and
do shit to him, and he handled it really well,
like he ripped them apart back. Yeah, so he definitely
wouldn't like it, but he would go. He would go
toe to toe with somebody until until he just blocked them.
But the internet, so it's I you know, I've read

(12:43):
a comment and it's true. All these people were able
to find who those people were, who their spouses were,
in like a flash.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So yeah, I didn't know who this guy was. No,
and I had no idea. I still don't know what
he's the CEO of or I know he's a CEO
over like a company, but.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I think it's an AI company.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I have no idea a billion dollar company.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Billion So but how did they find out who this
guy was?

Speaker 4 (13:10):
It's not like he's famous.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
I they they made I saw me making a joke
like every year we have a sacrificial ceo go down,
and last year it was the United Healthcare CEO.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
He was all over the news.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know, the guy shot him. Yeah, and then the
year before that was the orcas that were attacking a
CEO's yacht and then he, I don't know, something happened
and some people said he drowned, other people said he didn't.
So like this year's sacrificial CEO is this guy.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
It's like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I really don't know how they found out. But if
the internet could do that that fast, I wish that
they could find missing people like that, or give evidence
to murder.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Cases, you know, like that fast.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Like if we're able to pull together to do that,
let's like, come on, guys, let's use the internet for that.
Then let's let's go after the bad guys and find
the missing kids.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
So, you know, speaking of people being kidnapped and missing
and all that, we were driving to Newburgh the other
day last week and there was a missing person's you
know with the license plate. Yeah, called the cops if
you see them. There's cameras now on houses, streets, red lights, highways, highways, bridges.

(14:24):
You know, how do you not know where a car went?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah? All the tolls have cameras now. I don't know.
It's like when they want to use them. They do.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Like when that kid, that guy shot that CEO, they
pulled up every camera footage from everyone's house, from every
corner of the city to show when he woke up
the street he took exactly he changed into the bike
he rented the like they followed every path of him.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Same thing with the guy that you know who passed
away in Turks and Caicos. They had him on camera,
but they knew it how to bet him.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I don't know, it makes no sense. It only
makes sense when they wanted to make sense. It seems
like because I have no answer to that.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Crazy So I saw a cute video last week that
you posted of your squirrel, Bluie.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Oh my god, he's crazy, freaking crazy.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
He is adorable. I don't think we told everyone that
you were taking care of for squirrel.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
No, you know, I didn't really want to take on
these squirrels, so I kind of like kept it on
the wall. Usually when I rehab an animal, I do update.
People love animals, they love baby animals especially, so whenever
I rehab them, I know my listeners, my following, they
love to see them.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But this one was just like I just didn't have
time to film him. So he was cute.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
He I babe hand raised him from a baby baby.
He had a sister.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
She didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
She was too you know, far gone when I got
her and I let I released.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Him into the woods.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
And he has been living in the woods now for
a month, I think, or a little more. And uh,
he comes to visit almost every day and he likes
to now throw himself against the sliding door to get
my attention in the house, so you bang bang, and
it's just him like hello.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
At least he lives, Yeah, he knows where he lives.
And he wanted an almond.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
So he Ever since he went into the woods, he's
not that friendly anymore. He used to want me to
pet him and itch him and tickle him like he
loved that. Once he got into the woods, he didn't
want me to touch him, which is fine. I want
him to be wild. So the other day when I
was outside, I just put my hand near him to
get something off the chair he was on outside, and

(16:46):
he attacked me my hand. He didn't bite me, but
he scratched me really bad, and I got scared, and
I'm like, I don't.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Know what you have now? You're in the woods.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
So this time in the video, you see me walk
outside and I'm like scared because I don't want to
ge attacked and jumps on me. So I screamed because
I wasn't expecting that. He hasn't done that since he
was living with me, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
But it was a cute video.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
And you know, the dog's always with him outside like
just looking at him, and the squirrel looks at the dog,
and it's just it's funny.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
How is baby with him?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Baby annoys the crap out of him. She doesn't hurt him,
but she will swat at his tail when he's on
the deck railing. She goes over and swats him. She
stalks him. She's not attacked him yet, but she will
lay there like watching him. She'll be like a foot
away from him and just lay there making eye contact
with him. And sometimes she chases him up to the

(17:36):
deck railing when he's on the bottom. But she hasn't
hurt him yet. I don't think she will and hopefully not,
you know, I don't. I think she knows he's part
of the family kind of, so she's left him alone.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, the funniest video was when he was running on
the deck and you had the camera on him, and
he just ran it.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Over, barreled into it. He like he always goes puts it.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I have my little ring camera on my deck railing.
It's not hooked up, it's not screwed in, but it
just sits there. And every day he runs up to
it and he looks into it really quick and then
he runs away. But this one day he like ran
up to it, looked in it, got and then we're
all the way far away from it and got a
running start. It was like, and barrel into it. I
feel like he did it on purpose and he just

(18:21):
then The funny part was the camera falls over the
railing and then it's facing up and you see his
little head peek over the railing look down like, whoops,
did I do that?

Speaker 2 (18:31):
You know?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, it's so funny.

Speaker 3 (18:36):
And I think it's so crazy that baby knows, you know,
he's part of the family. Don't kill him.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
And whenever I get animals, any kind of animal, even
my chickens, I introduced them to the cat, the cat
and the dogs. Like the baby chicks, I put them
near baby, I let her sniff them. I put them
near her I let him walk by her. You know,
I kept my hand there. Same with Kyman and.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Mako, every animal.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So I think it's kind of like that, likeugh, I
wish I could hurt you, but your mom's so I'm
not gonna hurt you, but I'm gonna annoy you.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yeah, how is Cayman's like skin thing?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's all right, It's getting better. I think the smell,
the smells getting better. He used to smell like a
freedom Oh my god, it was horrible. My whole house
would stink. It was just so embarrassing just from his body,
like it would smell it my whole downstairs. So he
has yeast issues and we so I'm trying this product
from four Leaf Rover and it's called Yeast Guard, and

(19:37):
it's like a powder that I put in his food,
his dry food. I mix it in there, and I'll
be honest, he doesn't love the flavor of it. He
eats it, but you can tell he's just like ugh.
You know, he eats a little bit and looks up
at me, like mom, really, and then eats a little
bit and looks up at me. He finishes his bowl,
but if it's not in there, you know, he usually

(19:58):
gobbles it up fast. But he's eating it, so it's
not horrible. It's just he probably is likeugh, it has.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
A regino in it. It has that might be why, Yeah,
because you know regino is strong. It has ginger in.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
It has fennel time, so it has all these different
herbs that he's not used to. So that's what I
think it is. It's kind of like this isn't meat,
Like what is What are these strong flavors.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
That are in this?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know? Yeah, but he eats it all. So the
smell is the first thing I've noticed. Now he's been
on it for like a month, so what I've noticed
is the smell. The smell is almost gone and he's
not licking his paws anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
And the skin spot.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
That's the hardest part we've had this whole process, is
trying to get the hair to grow. I see little hairs,
So I'm gonna check back in a month and see
if there's more hair growth. You know, I took video,
I took pictures which I'll share with you guys. But
the main thing I've noticed right now is the smell,
which is a godsend because he was just rantid the
smell that he that he.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Filled my house with, you know, poor Camen.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Yeah, so hopefully it's gonna keep getting better and I
so far, I'm loving this product and I will give
you guys another update next month. And if your your
dog is experiencing this or has some yeast issues or
gut and balances, you know, check out four Leaf Over.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
And that's our show for this week. Thank you so
much for tuning in. Check us out at Shaunaanlala dot
com on all social media platforms at Shawna and La La.
You could follow me on Instagram at the Real Shanna
May and.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
Check me out at Bella Underscore La La one two five.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
We will see you next week
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