Paul Jacek

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Episode Transcript

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And now I'm coming to you live. It's from the City of Angels,
Los Angeles, California. It's theSheena Metal Experience with your host, Sheena
Metal, only KGRA A Digital BroadcastingHi, Welcome to the Sheena Medal Experience

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only on KGRE Digital Broadcast Network.I'm your host, Sheena Metal. I'm
a psychic medium, I'm an interfaithminister. I'm a twenty nine year talk
radio host in Los Angeles. I'ma performing and creative artist, and I
come to you live from my homein southern California every Friday at three o'clock

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Pacific time, right here on KJRADigital Broadcast Network. This show is about
spirituality, it's about creativity, it'sabout humanity, it's about passion, it's
about service, and it's really aboutbecoming and then being your best, beautiful
of you in this big, beautifulworld, and then inspiring others to follow

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your lead and do the same.And it may be my show every week,
but without a doubt, folks,it's always your experience. My guest
today is a beautifully talented psychic medium, actor, comic writer, teacher.
I don't know so many things,so many, so many. One of

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my best friends. That's maybe tome his most important job. And he's
just a join and a delight tohave here. And I'm proud to say
that we live ten minutes apart,and neither one of us has seen each
other in four years. Who areseven? Service? Please welcome to wonderful
Paul Jasic to the show. Howare you, my friend? I'm terrivinchen.

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It's so good to see you,isn't it silly? We both are
like, let's maybe fifteen minutes exactly, let's move closer together. We'll see
each other all the time. That'sright, bad friend, bad friend.
But here's what happened though. Theworld changed, and I think and I

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even was speaking to a smart personwas talking about the human resonance, which
is literally the heartbeat of the earthhas kicked up, so it will appear
that time has sped up. Yes, And I'm like, we are six
days into September, and I feellike I'm on the edge of a bungee
cord. I don't know about you. Well, I remember once a very

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smart lady, Alison Argrom, oneof the smartest people I know, told
me once during a radio broadcast thatthere's literally a chemical in our brain that
makes us feel like time and goslower when you're young because we have so
much to learn. But then theolder you get, the faster that it
appears the time when I believe Allison, you bet. But I also think

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it's being busy because people say tome like, I'm bored. I get
nothing to do tonight, I'm bored. I'm bored. And I always think,
man, I got a like factorin a shower, like when I
have twenty minutes for a shower,that's absolutely true. When sorry, I

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said, when can I make timeto have dinner with a friend. Although
we are going to make time,we are going to find that time.
It actually with Venus going direct,this should smooth out a little bit.
But the other day, as youmay have known, my car got stolen.
Yes, and it's a it's ayou know, three decades old buick.

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Now she's in great shape and Ipimp her out. She's been in
front of the camera three times,she's done two shows in one movie.
Yes, So to have her hstolen, I thought, who would why?
Uh? And then a friend ofmine, who was an amazing medium
herself, the first thing when Isaid, my car has been stolen.

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She said, don't worry, itcomes back. And so did you,
Shina. I did on camera.I said it on camera, USAF,
and I didn't think there would havebeen no saying I didn't say it.
I didn't think I really, Imean, I was like, yes,
thanks, that's nice. But theyonly broke the right passenger window. They
didn't even steal my charger on theseat right. Did they just want a

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joy ride? They did, ofcourse. I just had gassed her up
and they drove forty miles that's it. Wow, Okay, they didn't even
pipe it out all the gas.No, no, And I thought,
what was that for? And accordingto this amazing psychic she said, it
was three kids under twenty, andshe said yours wasn't the only one.

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One of them drove it after theyhot wired it, but the other two
got cars too because they found itit first in Redondo, not even not
even four miles from here. Wow. Yeah, so so they actually,
like the three of them, drovearound like fast and the furious they all
stole cars. Yep. It justseems like such a risk to take for

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like nothing, well a lot doesn'tmake logical sense anymore. Grand theft auto
for like forty minutes of joy riding. Just seems like that seems like a
big risk to take for nothing.Yeah, so but I got it heard.
I'm sorry, no, but Igot it back. You were right.

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I saw it coming back, alittle damaged in there, with this
little sad window that's so beautiful.But I didn't think it was going to
Mexico. Remember you did you saysome thing about was it going to Mexico?
And I'm like that I thought itwas going to and you said no,
they I don't think they left LongBeach. Yeah, well, you
know, I guess what's there todo to leave. I just think also

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that people know since COVID that peopleare not getting caught for things. And
I hate to say that, butI have a friend who works for a
company and they literally caught a guydedecating in their elevator, and they caught
him on camera. He tried todeny it, and they just sort of
gave him like a slap on thewrist, like, well, you know,

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don't do that again. And thensomebody told me that works down at
the docks in Long Beach that they'renot even prosecuting people who are stealing from
the the you know, I don'tknow what they're called, but you know
the big things that go on thetankers full of Walmart, the containers that

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that literally they'll the cops will catchthem and then one of the cops will
say, well, see you guysnext week. Because they're just there's just
not enough. The legal system isso piled back anyhow. You can't even
get a divorce court for five years. So there's there's just that people don't
have time. So everybody's it's alittle escape from la right. Everyone's running
a little crazy right now. Therearen't a lot of rules, and I

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think that is something that we asa species need to address. It's something
in us that maybe we haven't figuredout that we need to figure out on
our own. Is this this urgeto run off and do something just because
we can? Right? Well,a lot of license was given too.

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If I feel it, then Ido it. Mm hmm. Do you
know, as opposed to rational orcritical thinking that many of us were raised
with, well what about this?Well what about this? No? I
felt that way right all right,But and so therefore I see it a
lot about especially clients of mine,will go, well, I want to

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know if my partner's cheating. Andit's always an interesting word when people use
the word cheating. And I said, you mean seeing someone outside of your
marriage? Well, yes, Isaid, well you are. And I
had a woman almost come across thetable at me and she goes, oh
Polly, that's I said. Butsee, it puts it back in the

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right perspective. You're looking for someoneto go into agreement with you for bad
behavior when you and you yourself areactually as guilty. And I'm not trying
to place blame. Let's talk aboutwhat this impulse is and how angry you
are. That's probably where I canhelp you. And does what am I
supposed to do? Meditate? Isaid, do you? I don't have

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time? Well, here we are, that's why you're sitting in front of
me. I'm too busy cheating tomeditate. That's right, that's exactly right.
I don't want to. If Ijust sleep with other people, that's
how I meditate. That's my that'smy zen time. Well, but people
have been so impacted that they justthey they're reaching for some sort of comfort.

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And I'm you know, that's whythose of us that work in the
work that we do sheina, it'sI had to double down on my own
growth. You know, I willnotice when I you know, if I
am skimpy on my meditation or gettingmyself ready for the day, the day
is just spin art for the restof the Yeah, yeah, yes,

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yeah. For me, it's sleep. If I don't get enough sleep,
I think that's my meditation, thenI'm just fried the next day and I
don't get anything done. I don'tgive to the world the way I should.
I'm just sort of like floating untilthe next time to sleep. But
if I get you know, eighthours of good sleep, then man,
I could take on fifty loads ofstuff. We don't take good care of

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ourselves, right, and then wedon't understand why we don't feel good.
And I agree with you, sleepingis so important. None if I've told
you the story. But a friendof mine had cancer, and she knows
this guy who was one of thebig originators of stem cell research, and
so one day she asked him,you know, cancer, what's the story

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and he said that the number onegroup of people who get cancer. And
you know, you think I'm gonnasay it's diet and it's exercise, but
that is not what he said,it's people who don't sleep, people who
don't hydrate, people who don't letstress go, and people who don't laugh.

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Those are the biggest cancer causing agents. It's not as much about what
you eat, but are you drinkingenough water to process it out? And
are you sleeping well? So Ialways think about that. And sometimes when
I'm stressed and I think I've gota million things to do and I should
get up in the ill had fivehours sleep, I have to pep talk

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myself and say, look, youpaid your bills, you know what you're
working. That's the ultimate goal ofeverything. Now you can sleep. And
so I let myself sleep. AndI have a cat, and the cat
always wants to sleep, so thathelps Pap. I've only taken four naps

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today. Let's just sleep. Soyeah, I mean he is a sweetheart.
He's such a sweetheart. But yeah, so that's a lot of I
think we need to give ourselves abreak, right, whatever it is that
we need, we need to letourselfs have that and not be in a

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constant place of deprivation. You know, if you need to watch another hour
of your favorite show on Netflix,give yourself that time and allow yourself to
have that if you want to.I go have dinner with my best friend
almost every night. And you knowwhat if we want to stay up an
extra hour and watch another show,okay, great, but let yoursel have

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that down time. Allow yourself tohave a life, right because, like
you were talking about earlier, youneed to have a life too. Well.
And I've worked in the corporate,you know, setting I was an
assistant to an executive producer and Iwas on call twenty four to seven and
for almost a good decade. Youknow, when my phone rang, I

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was at the ready and that's exhausting. Yeah, I mean it really I
had a great time. You know, the project we were working on,
which I'm proud of, Lord ofthe Rings, but that little movie Lord
of Mercy. You know, whenwe were finished, I like slept for

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a week. I'm not even kidding. I got up and people going,
are you looking for a job?I said, I'm hoping to just make
it to the refrigerator. Yeah.So it's right now. You know,
we're at a different time. Youknow, we've come through COVID. Things
are opening up, especially for thoseof us in entertainment. You know,
people are going back into the theaters. I saw an amazing play at the

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International City Theater last Friday night,such a brave work, and that's exciting.
You know that it's all beginning towork again. But now we're back
at the power of choice. Whatwould you like to do? Yes,
it's right. If it's not fun, I'm not I may not be doing
it if it's not fun. Yes, yeah, no, yeah, I

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agree, and be thankful for thenow. You know, I'm living,
as you know, for the lasthave ver many years, right, a
year and some since I moved hereon the on the on the precipice of
a remodel. Yes, I wantto get it done, but not until
it's right with the right people.I think now I finally have the right

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people. And then after this wholeproject's done, then I'm gonna go to
my valley house and it'll be thathole. So basically, the next my
goal is by the time I'm sixty, so that's like three and a half
years, not quite a little more. I want to have gold places ready,
but that doesn't mean I have tosit in this place and hate it
every day till it's remodeled. Ilove living here, and even sometimes I

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look down at the terrifying orange carpetsfrom nineteen seventy four, and I think,
you know, I need to getrid of these carpets, but there's
a part of me it's gonna missthem. I grew up with these carpets.
So you have to love where you'reat right now. And I think
some people get confused, right Paul, and they believe that loving where you're
at right now means you don't wantto do anything different, and that's not

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true. But you can't spend everymoment in agony until that thing happens,
because guess what. When I getthe bedroom remodeled, then I'm gonna have
to remodel here. And then I'mgonna have to go and do that bathroom,
and I'm gonna have to do theliving room. And you just can't
be miserable and clenching the whole time. Things happen when they happen, and

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you have to not People have becomeso results oriented about everything, and I
think reality TV has made that worse. We think that has to be made
over us. The house, theanimals, you know, the dog trainer
has to come in and this househas got to go. And then I
got to fix this, and Ineed this done to my car and this

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done to my face. And wenever live in a place of just being,
and so much spiritual growth comes tous when we're just being. Right,
What the idea of being comfortable?I've been talking about it with my
clients that we've all been on edge, certainly coming through the pandemic. Now

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it's been three years later, butwe were all so pressured. So I
will frequently ask him are you comfortable? And they'll go, well, I'm
okay, No, are you comfortable? Do you need a pillow? Do
you know? Especially if they're sittingdown and was sitting for a reading nice
and I don't want to take uptoo much time. I'm like, oh,

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well, currently, I'll take careof the time. Don't worry,
because once you're comfortable, everything changes. Yes, but because you can't get
to where you want to go fromwhere you are vibrationally. Yes, yes,
it's one hundred percent true, Andit's okay to make yourself comfortable,

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right, Like you've in a societywhere people shame others. Paul are sleeping
with too many pillows? Have youheard about that? Oh? If you
sleep with too many pillows? You'relonely and you're unhealthy, and you spend
too much time by yourself. Whatif I just want to surround myself in
pillows because it feels great, Andwhat businesses of yours? How many pillows

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I'm sleeping with? Right? Andthen then it's you're not allowed to own
anything. Right, So if youcollect anything, then something's wrong with you.
And now it's you're not supposed tohave china and silver and good dishes
because everyone only needs one dish foreveryone in the house. There should be
one plate and one cup and oneset of silverware. What am I did?

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I just enter boot camp? Wellthen going to hell? So with
the one blanket and I get tohave one cup and one canteen? I
mean, why are we depriving ourselvesof everything and then indulging in Oh but
I went to this restaurant and Iate these little things. They were this
big and I spent one hundred andtwenty dollars on them. Okay, that's

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your thing. Maybe somebody else's thingis I'd like to spend one hundred and
twenty dollars on some china. Butwe once again, why does it bother
other people? Where you know everyone'speaking through everyone's backyard fence. I'm like,
stay in your backyard exactly. Well, how many pillows do you have?
Somebody said to me. I'm like, I don't know, somewhere between

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ten and a shit ton. Ithought that even the cat sleeps on two
purple pillows. Like, we havelots of pillows and blankets and we love
it. And I like to wrapmy leg around pillows, and I like
to have pillows. I sleep ona lot of pillows. I don't like
to sleep flat, so I sleepup on ke thorpe. I like a
lot of pillows. But why arewe apologizing? Or oh, how many

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sodas are you having in a day? Well, you know, if you
have a problem with sodas and you'resick, then I get that. But
why are we trying to control whateverybody has and what they do? And
we're living in a world where noone's allowed to have any joy. We
need to bring joy back, Paul. Can we get together and decide it's
our mission of psychics to bring joyback? Please? I'm in right now.

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I'll carry the banner because if wedon't find joy, why bother coming
here? Yeah? I mean,if your work is sixty hour work week,
and you at the end of thatweek, you know, want to
sit down and have some wings anda beer or a coke or a blind
of coke. That's your prerogative.I mean everything in moderation, because we

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don't want something to control us.But I mean, if you need to
sit down and you know, havea doctor Pepper, that's your business.
And I don't even like doctor Pepper, so I'm not advocating for that,
but if that's what you want,then that's what you should have. My
mom had this theory, right,you should always have exactly what you want,

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because if you don't get the thingthat you want, then you'll get
ten other things trying to get thegood feeling of what that one thing makes
you feel like, and you've actuallydone more damage. You've spent more money,
or you put more stuff in yourbody because you didn't just have the
one scoop of ice cream that youreally wanted. I agree with your mother,

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you know, the idea that becauseI grew up my parents were depression
babies, right, you know,and so you know it should be on
our family crest use it up,wear it out, make it do or
do without so, and they didn'thave a lot, but they certainly used
every bit of something. My grandmotherwould have six cups of tea out of

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one Lipton tea bag because it hadits own little dish on the shelf in
the windowsill. But she used itsix times. So if you're wize,
there's a hundred bags in the box. She was good for half a year.
Ye, yes, you know,bless her heart and that, you
know. And she would think thatwe were terribly wasteful, and she thought
paper plates were the height of waste. You use it once. She would

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wash out paper towels and put themon the line. I'm not kidding.
No, my dad did that too. Yeah, see, and he reused
ziplock bags. He'd think, weput it your ziplock bag. You pick
it up and had crumbs in it. I feel like, how long has
this been here? Yeah? Yeah, But I mean I think I live
very frugally and I'm not a wastefulperson, like I don't use a half

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a roll of paper towels every timesomething spills. But I also think that
there's moderation, right, There's adifference in that and never allowing yourself to
have anything and the truth is,I love this ad that's on TV.
I never thought about it takes morewater to wash your dishes than just to

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stick them in the dishwasher and runyour dishwasher every day. So I was
a person that didn't run my dishwasherall the time because I thought, well,
that's terribly wasteful. Well, itturns out it's more wasteful to rinse
the dishes out in the sink beforeyou put them in the dishwa So now
I just run the dishwasher. Andthe same thing with the air conditioning.

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I turn off when I'm hot,and I turn off when I get cool.
I don't run it all day longbecause I don't need to be in
here freezing, but when I gethot, I turn it on. And
okay, I mean it's And Ieven wrestle with myself about that. And
one day I'm driving on pch Paulon Pacific Coast Highway and I say to
myself, you are fifty five yearsold, and you make a good living.

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You are allowed to turn the airconditioning on when you're sweating. But
I think as artists, right,we grew up with this starving artist thing
that you never could spend money onanything, because what if you never got
another job. And even though Inow make very good money and I have
a very successful practice, I stillhave that ingrained in me, Like,

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you know, I shouldn't turn theheater on. No, man, I'm
turning that heater on. I'm notgonna live forever. I had that similar
fight in the car using the airconditioning in the car. It had to
be Las Vegas hot, and mydad would only run it for a few
minutes. Oh no, and I'mlike, no, I slam that on

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right down to sixty seven degrees.I don't care if there are icicles stripping
off my nose. I have to. I have to bring it back a
little. That's let the pendulum swingcome back. But it's like you may
use right, Yes, the ideathat you may have what you desire is
not hyperbally, it's actually how theuniverse works. Yeah. See, my

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mom was the opposite. She waslike, I survived that damn depression and
orphanage. Now I'm gonna have whatI want. We're gonna go to bask
and Robbins and we're gonna pay theextra thirty five cents for the French vanilla
and the chocolate fudge for that one. The French vanilla and the chocolate fudge
were extra, but I do.It's so mad. She would be like,
you get the chocolate fudge, We'llpay for it, because deprivation was

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a big thing with her. Butyet I became a starving artist and deprived
myself for thirty years. And nowI'm realizing, no, you know what,
I can go online and i canbuy a good Lavalier Mike because I'm
using it for business every day,and I need to not always be living
in this mentality of I'm not worthit, because then, Paul, you

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start to tell yourself I'm not worthanything. I'm not even worth buying a
sixty dollars leveler. Mic I canjust buy the plane wrap one from Timu
and not care if it sounds likecrap because I can't get the road one
for sixty dollars and then all andthen you're just defeating the purpose. But

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you just know you're allowed to havewhat you want, and that means people
in your life right and relationships andfriendships. You don't have to deal with
the person who treats you badly.You're allowed to be with somebody who treats
you the way that you should betreated. Well, there's our inner work

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and what we also teach to people. The universe is an abundant place.
It is not hyperblieve that you mayhave what you desire. And when you
start to shift your mind and yourfeeling system, the stuff unlike it will
will come up so you can clearit. One of my clients get said,
I started doing your meditations and allhell is broken loose, and I

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went, oh, my gosh,isn't that fabulous? He said, yeah
if you, and I went,no, really, because you're getting rid
of that. The universe heard yourrequest. Yeah, pretty amazing. It
did even am it for him.I went through a thing this summer I've
not talked to you about yet.I was in this pattern of wondering why

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I have attracted so much negativity tome in relationships, all kinds of relationships,
but specifically romantic ones. And I'mI'm looking on Facebook and I'm seeing
all these people like saying, oh, it's you know, thank God for
my person, it's our anniversary andthis and that, and I'm thinking,
you know, what have I donewrong? Because it's okay to ask universe,

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what have I done wrong. Itdoesn't mean you blame yourself for everything.
And I realized an interesting thing.I realized that many many decades ago,
I was very much in love withsomebody and it didn't happen. It
was not my doing, And insteadof dealing with how sad I was,
I just stuffed it down and Ikept working. So then every time something

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would happen with a lover, witha friend, with a work associate,
every time it would happen, Iwould stuff it down and I would just
keep going. And that's very muchsomething I learned from my depression era a
mother that she has now told mefrom spirit she's sorry for because it's what
she did right. It's a survivaltechnique. You make it go away,
and you keep working, you keepliving, but it doesn't go away.

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It festers in there like an abscess, and then it attracts to you other
festering things that feel like it,and the next thing you know, you
self fulfilled. This prophecy of thisbecomes like a like a sci fi movie
magnet, and it's drawing a likenessto it left and right. And I

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realized it was because I had neverreally gone back and healed from these relationships,
I just moved on. And thenI realized in that, because you
always find your own accountability, thatwhen that horrible thing happened in that first
relationship, maybe I should have likenot gone, okay, this is this
is this is fucked up. That'sit. I'm walking away. Maybe I

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should have made a phone call andfought for it and tried to work it
out and not just been so pridefuland so horrified that I just stuffed it
down and okay. And then Irealized that's a pattern with me, And
I'm like, no, no,no, no, we're gonna You're never
too old to break the patterns.But you got to go back and heal
all that stuff. So, likeyou were saying, when you're doing that

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healing work, you're on a bitof a hay ride. It's like your
skin's been ripped off and you havefly eye that can see in three sixty
And it's a journey I'm still on. But the idea is that moving forward
in my life, I find away to navigate through situations like that with

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actually processing and healing as I go. And it's not in my nature to
it's in my nature to go no, no, no, I'm fine,
And how can I help you notto take the time to help me,
you know, I do know,and you've got to give yourself that time.
Well. And what's lovely is theuniverse has autocorrect. Yeah, yeah,

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you can have you can make amistake, but they'll bring you back.
People go, I went off therails. That's okay, They'll guide
you back. Don't worry about it. Yeah. Yeah, it's way better
than Siri, way better. Iunderstand the purpose of autocorrect on an iPhone
because you just have to go backand fix it all yourself. Because when

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I voice text, hey, thankyou for that, call me, and
right when I hit send, andI looked down and said, oh,
it just put you know, fuckyou for that and fuck me. Why
does Siri always do that? Whyis it? Why is it putting profanity
in that I didn't even say?And you know, so I think so

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the universe is way better. They'reautocorrect, they let they let you correct.
So how do you balance yourself asa spiritual being and practitioner and yourself
as a creative and performing artist thatyou are so psychic? Because that has

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been up for me recently and whenI realized that, you know, I've
basically lived in the theater and performanceand entertainment my whole life. You know,
my my family is an entertainment family. In fact, we had a
small gathering recently, and my nieceand her sister, my two little nieces
are stage managers, like for nationwideyou know, Broadway shows. So this,

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this little barbecue went up in thebackyard. In a minute, stuff
is out, the set is done. We have this nice party at three
o'clock. I will tell you,like somebody bold a whistle, I mean,
stuff started disappearing, tables hold itup. It was kind of like
watching you know that bit from TheSorcerer, you know with Mickey Mouse.

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And also all the tables have foldedup and it was done. So I
say that to say this that theprinciples I learned in the theater are the
principles of living. Sure, Ifind nothing more exciting than a black box
to start rehearsal in, because that'swhere it all begins. And I realized,

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as an overly sensitive child, thereason I loved being in a play
is for a short time, everythingwas planned. They have a set,
they tell you what to wear,you have to memorize the lines, and
it was the same thing night afternight. I could depend on it.
Consistency. We need that so much, so much so now at this advanced

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age, when I realized that we'retalking about the magic and the miracle of
creation, there's also the capital seethe Big Creator, and there's a lot
of commentary about being a co creator. Well, sometimes I'll I'll acquiesce to
a power greater because sometimes I willsay, you know what, HP,

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I don't know what we're doing here, so y'a'll just I'll step and repeat
right behind you. Tell me whatto do and HP. I love that
it makes higher power sound like somebig daddy war bocks with a cigar,
big HP head. That's right.And uh, but what happens is,

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you know where I am in mylife. I just emptied my storage unit
into my apartment. I have twohundred and thirteen boxes in this little one
bedroom apartment because it was broken intotwo days after my car was stolen.
And I was like, are youkidding me? Now? I don't think
they stole anything there, but theytore up everything and it must have been

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kind of drag. You're going,this is all dishes? He only needs
one dish, right, right,you know, a bunch of Yeah,
I'm going to have just one dish, that's right. But then I went,
you know what this is. Theseare the sarcophacay of old lives,

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Paul. Here we are as Istart the third act of this life.
I get to have everything exactly theway I want to. So as I
look at these momentos and bits.And my partner was a contemporary impressionist,
a marvelous artist, and I hadone showing of his work after he died,

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and then it was just so hard. But do you know, in
the middle of all of this messand Gina, my car is gone.
Thank God for my friends that tookme up to the storage unit. They
were helpful. You know, Igrade some of my friends in the fact
that if you would take me tolax or you would help me move boxes,
you are my best friend. That'sthe hardest. But looking at his

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artwork now, and he will havebeen gone thirty years next month, it
doesn't hurt anymore. I was sohappy to see them. They're like old
friends. They looked all thirty yearsago, and I went, it couldn't
have happened any other way. Andso although I'm in the middle of chaos,

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and you know, there's a coupleof dumpster fires going on in my
life. I am so happy andso grateful for my life, just in
the box that came in, forthe marvelous people that are in my life.
That that's where somebody said you're sixtyfive. You don't look sixty five,
and I thought, well, thisis what sixty five looks like.

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That's right exactly. And you know, recently I was honored by an exhibit
at the Hollywood Museum, Oh Wow, for being a pioneering one of the
first openly gay stand up comics.And you will know this story. And
I was so honored that opening nightthey gave a pioneering award to Jojo Silwa,

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that cute little dancer that came outduring America's Got Talent. She's adorable.
And Kevin Spiratus, who I hada crush on when he was on
Days of Our Lives. I thoughthe was amazing. But he talked about
in his journey that his agent said, we've got this great feature for you.
Now this man is gay, andhe goes, I don't want to

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do that. I don't want toplay gay people in this agent and said,
Kevin, you're the only one thatdoesn't know you're gay. Yeah,
And Days of Our Lives was solovely. They had his character come out
on camera, and then the JudyGarland Legacy Award went to her daughter Leerna
left. So it was an amazingevening. And as I got to the

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exhibit, it's a really large,beautiful exhibit of my career. And in
the case next to mine, they'recelebrating Jerry Jewel. Beautiful and Jerry and
I went to Cyprus College together.Isn't that awesome? And for a little
girl who had CP who was slingingspit and spasming all over and this gay

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kid that nobody would talk to,we now stand side by side at the
Hollywood Museum. I can't be anymore tickled. Isn't that beautiful. That's
such a beautiful thing. That's congratulations, my friend. So I'm pretty happy
about where my life is right now. I wouldn't change I wouldn't change a
thing. If I were to winthe lottery, the first thing I would

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do is get some really nice tennisshoes. And that's kind of it.
Yeah, okay, okay, Isee some really nice tennis shoes in your
future lottery or not. Yeah,you just want if I won the lottery,
and I may just do it anyhow. I would travel. I have

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to two things on my mind rightnow. As far as that, I
mean little things that I want todo. Go places and teach where I
have a lot of people, likeDallas and and Vegas. But I would
like to drive across the country.I've only done it once when we moved
out here, and it was horrifying. I would like to drive across the
country, stop in different towns andworkshops, do workshops, and then finally

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get to New York. Go toUpstate New York, scatter my mom's ashes
at her house. I did theKentucky ashes, but then she got adopted
with my my grandparents and I ismy grandparents in upstate New York. Go
to new Haven where I was born, scattered some more ashes for her on
the Yale campus where I was born, and then just do every New England

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thing I've ever wanted to do.Take the cat. I've got the whole
setup in the car now, sothe cat has a box, he's got
a place to eat, he's gothis bed, he's got his scratchy post
all in the car and then justdo whatever I want to do. Go
someplace, book a teaching engagement,go to Salem, go to crystal shops

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there like, do that sleepy hollowtour of the Hudson River and visit all
those just do whatever I want todo. That is one. The other
one is I want to get thecat good enough to fly. I want
to get in a plane. Iwant to go to Ireland for a month,
rent a place and just write andnot make a plan. No plan.

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I'll mean i'll plan where I'm gonnastay and what plane I'm gonna get
on, and what car I'm gonnarent, no plan. And I want
to take the ferry to England anddrive around England and just just not have
a plan. And every night Iwrite. These are the So these are
my two money things that I thathave that I'm really saving up for,

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just to go be somewhere I've alwayswanted to go, or go back to
in the case of New England,and just just be with the cat and
just chill and visit friends and alongthe way and just you know, not
have a plan, because that's somethingthat I never could have afforded to do
or that I never would have doneback in the day where my entire studio

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didn't come with me. Now mystudio comes with me. You know.
No, I'm not tethered to anything, and I have the freedom to do
whatever I want. And I think, you know, so many of my
friends and probably yours too, havedone so much traveling because they weren't always

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like, well, what if theagent calls? But what if this happens?
But what if that happens? Andso that's kind of what I want
to do. I think we shoulddo a pside get cruise together. Oh,
wouldn't it be a kick? Let'sdo it. I would love that
because there never seems to be ina time right, because I would love
to snoop around, because wouldn't thatbe fun just to do like a week

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cruise and we can give workshops andthe meetings. I would do it everything.
And galleries, doing galleries in thebig area. Wouldn't that be fun?
Now, you're much better at galleriesthan I am. I have to
tell you, really, I cando it, and i'd probably do better
if you were like the auxiliary batterynext to me. But sometimes I get

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a little overwhelm because for me,I'll tell you the one difference is when
I am working as a reader andas it's an impath, it's a different
vibe as opposed to presentation. Butthey're really similar. And I didn't know
I had much more stage fear becauseof the information I get. You know,

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it's difficult in working a platform whenwhen you're getting somebody saying, that's
my wife and I want to kickher in the head. Still, I'm
so mad at her that you're goingyour husband's here, and he says hi,
he says he likes donuts. Yes, he wants to talk about how
much he liked donuts. That's rightin the head and in the head while

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he has a donut, okay,anybody else here in the eye. But
I think I think it's funny becauseI would think for you, with years
of doing stand up comedy as Ihave, but you've done way more than
me. It's kind of like that, right because you, without knowing it,
you're reading an audience and some ofthe stuff you're getting off folks sucks.
It sucks. Some of it's great, and some of it is very

(40:59):
naked. And you know, Ihad a friend that was a When I
met her, she was a wellprostitute, stripper slash prostitute, but she
had been a massage therapist in ahotel and one day she was working on
somebody. She didn't know she waspsychic. One day she was working on
somebody and she felt that they hadmurdered someone, and it freaked her out.

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She never would do it again.She quit that day. I think
that's why us growing up in theentertainment business has been so good for us,
because we're used to feeling negative stuffor weird stuff coming off people all
the time, so it doesn't seemthat strange. You know. That was
the tipping point for me. Idon't know if I told you that.

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It's a teeny story. I wasa flight attendant and we were flying from
Denver to Salt Lake City, andof course it was getting bumpy, so
the captain turned the fastest seatbelt signon, which people must see when it
goes on that it says, pleaseget up and run around the cabin.
No, he's put it on fora reason. So this guy had gotten

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up and gone to the bathroom inthe back of the plane. I'm standing
in the aft galley as he comesout. We hit an air pocket and
I put my left hand right inthe middle of his chest and pushed him
against the wall to keep him onone spot. It was really bumpy,
and I immediately said, you can'tmarry her. And he looked at me

(42:25):
and he goes, what did yousay? I said, And while we're
at it, that left me isn'tready at all, So don't ski this
weekend. And the color drained fromhis face. He goes, what the
hell I said? And I needyou to get back to your seat.
So I let him back to hisseat, and I wanted to make sure
his seat belt was fastened, sowe checked the cabin again and as I
walked by, he grabbed my legand I was like, excuse me,

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and he said, what did yousay that? So I knelt down and
he goes, I said, well, so here's the deal. I sometimes
get impressions, and I'll tell youright now, if you marry her,
the same mistake you made with yourfirst wife, and if have you had
surgery. He goes, how wouldyou know that? I said that knees
not ready. Wow, So youcan either mark it up as some silly

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flight attendant and you never have tolisten to me again, and he looked
at me, goes, I don'twant to marry or I said, then
don't. But isn't it nice Yougot the information here and it can appear
that you've made up your mind andyou just sit in the lodge, have
a few hot toddies, watch itsnow, enjoy your Salt Lake City is

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a beautiful city. But the twothings you don't do is you don't ski
and you don't marry her. Yeah. And I walked back to the apt
galley and felt like I had donemy job for the day. I didn't
feel triumphant, but I thought,you know, the other side is shameless
in trying to get information through whenthey need to. They're like shouting through

(43:50):
an hole in a picket fence.I was just the one that was nearby.
Yeah, yeah, you know.I always people always game to me
for advice, so I would havetold you I had good intuition. But
it never occurred to me that Iactually had gifts. Because my mother could
touch a spoon for five seconds andit looked like it had been through the

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apocalypse. So I thought being areal psychic was like you could tell when
the phone was going to ring.But I was playing with my band beer
Bong, which was like a theatricalmetal band, and we were sitting at
a Denny's at three o'clock in themorning with the band, and my bass

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player had just put it an aboveground pool, and my guitar players were
teasing him that it was a babypool. Oh, Ernie's got a baby
pool. Let's all come over andget in Ernie's baby pool. And without
even thinking, I said, Ibet you have one of those rafts with
the two drink cup holders on itand an inflatable lockmouth monster. And all

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the color went out of his faceand he was like, did you talk
to my wife? And I saidno, And he said how did you
know that? And I said,I don't know. I just look at
you and I see you floating aroundin this thing with the cups, and
I see the locknus monster floating aroundin there too, And he's like,

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no, seriously, you talked tomy wife. And I'm like, no,
I didn't. I just that's whatI saw. I was kind of
joking, Paul. I wasn't tryingto make a big psychic premonition. I
just saw what I said, andthen I realized after that night that that's
why I was a good stand up, and that's why I was good rapping

(45:36):
with the audience in between the songsand the band, because I could tell
stuff about people, but I didn't. It never really occurred to me until
years later when I was working atmy last radio affiliate and before iHeart,
and I was interviewing people, whichI had never really done before. When

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I worked on the starting station,I just shock shock, but even that.
Somebody would call, tell me wherethey were from, ask a question.
I would tell them what was wrongwith them. Everybody would laugh and
I'd hang up and go to thenext one. It was totally profiling people
psychically. And then when I startedinterviewing people, I remember the situation my

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friend Corey Feldman was getting divorced andhe was coming to do my show to
promote his album, and his publicistsaid to me, nobody knows that Corey's
getting divorced, so we don't talkabout it, and I said, okay.
But I went into that studio completelyconvinced we were going to talk about
his divorce, and as he wastalking to me and not talking about it,

(46:42):
I could energetically feel him wanting totalk about it, and then he
just started talking about it. Andthen I thought, well, what am
I supposed to do? She toldme not to, and now he's talking.
But then I started realizing that asI interviewed people, I would hear
one thing from there and one thingfrom the soul or plexus, and sometimes
it was two very different conversations.So sometimes we have gifts and we don't

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even really know what it is.Right, we're not trying to You weren't
trying to float around that plane liketelling everybody, Oh, I have so
many gifts. You just got athing and passed it on. And I
think that's how it is for somany of us. It's not you know,
it's not like people think it is. It's just something comes up.

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You just know something, and sometimesyou don't want to because sometimes it's about
a friend. I mean not thepool toys, because that was funny,
But sometimes you get something very painfulabout a friend and you don't want to
know that, but you just do. Right, But I do know that

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we need to have dinner, younglady. Oh we do, don't we?
Yeah, soon, so we cantalk. Yeah that was that.
Don't think I told that story onthe air before. Maybe I've told the
poll toy story. I don't knowthat I've told the story about Corey,
and I know you would be coolwith it because you know it was all
set on the air, so itwas not like a big secret. Yeah.
Yeah, But I think before Iwas ready to come out, and

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you came out as a psychic decadesbefore me, I think before I was
ready to come out, I wasjust doing weird things like that and trying
to move and help people and noteven coming out to myself. I was
like your friend that everybody knew hewas gay except for him. I was
like that about being a psychic,I think, and people, including you,

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just started busting my balls about it. And that was right. Remember
those days when you'd bust my ballsand I'd be like, I'm not a
psychic. I don't know what you'retalking about. There's a lot of eyerolling.
What there was a lot of eyerolling when you'd say that was a
closet, right, It was thecloset I really didn't want to come out

(48:58):
of. And now it's like proudis gone. And that was the one
I trumpet out of the loudest.How about for you what because you and
I made the transition right about thesame time where we started actively working having
a spiritual practice that became very mucha full time job for us. Yes,

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and you know it still continues tothis day. I'm uh, my
Patreon is beginning to build nicely,so if people are interested in having a
reading with me, go to myPatreon page Patreon slash Paul Jasic And uh,
it's just the greatest I you know, and I have you to thank
the godmother of our little show.Mary and I did the O Mary Show.

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But certainly we've, as ram Dassaid, we held hands and walked
each other home through this journey.And it's been one hell of a ride.
It's been beautiful, right, It'sit's been. It just seems like
everything we do we do the samethings. We've helped each other through all
of it. And I so appreciatethat you're such an important part of my
life. I don't know what Iwould do without you. But we definitely

(50:08):
need to have dinner somewhere. Thereis a lovely sizzler very close to me.
It's very They did during COVID andI cried, but then this one
has opened up and it's beautifully.I know, we used to go to
the one kind of in the ghettoand even that was fantastic. But there's

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a beautiful one down here by me. That's that's that's very very well presented
it. You know, it's funnyabout a restaurant. It doesn't matter what
neighborhood it's in. Just some restaurantstoday just must be the management, right,
They're just not nothing looks fresh.And there used to be one very

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close to my house. Actually,the pizza place that you and I went
to last time we had lunch.That used to be a Sizzler and it
was always he's kind of dirty inside. He must have just had a weird
management. This was in the eighties, right in the middle of Huntington Beach.
But now there's a new one veryclose. That's uh. I think
it's always been a Sizzler too,But it must have great management because it

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it's they've got everything and it's wonderful. So we should go stuff ourselves.
Tim In, do you remember thetime that we went to Sizzler together with
our dearly departed friend Paul Patrick mclennand he and he brought a zip lock
bag and looked tuna fish and totake home. Yes, I love that

(51:35):
story. That's one of my favoritestories about Patty. That was a and
you know what, I might,I might do that to honor him.
When we go, don't tell uswe had I miss him, me too.
I miss him too. He isI think, an important part of
our work because he is a very, very tragic example of somebody who couldn't

(52:01):
deal with their psychic gifts. Hewas so good though, he was so
good, but it's hard. Iwould sit and watch him, going,
how do you do that? Becauseespecially when he would say it to me,

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, hewas brilliant. He said to me
once, your mother's having a horribletime with depression and she doesn't want to
adopt to you about it. AndI was like what? And I called
her because I trusted him, andI said, look, pat said this
thing, and is it true?And she was like, it's true.
And I never wanted to talk toyou about it because I was so embarrassed.
He was so good. So Itell you, I think about him

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all the time in my work whenI tell people open up slowly, get
used to your gifts as you go, because it's a lot to handle and
you want to be ready for it. I love you more than anything.
Where can people find you online?And I'm so jealous You've got your Patreon
together, You've got all your poopin a group friend, Well, then

(53:06):
you know what if you want one, I know just enough to be dangerous.
Yes, I do want one verybadly. You can find a Patreon
dot com creators. I also havea terror reader page on Facebook Paul Chasing
terror Reader or join me on myregular page on Facebook, and and I'd

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love to read for you. Thankyou for being here, my friend,
and thank you so much for beingsuch a gifted psychic. I love you.
If you missed any of those links, you can go to Sheena metal
uh spiritual dot com. That's mymain website, ginametalspiritual dot com. There's
workshops to take, there's a wonderfulstore of items to purchase. I do

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many many psychic services. You canlearn about that. And the easiest way
to reach me is to text meon eight four three seven zero eight eighty
six and find me on social mediaeverywhere at Sena Metal that's Facebook, TikTok,
Instagram, YouTube and x formerly Twitter. Till I see you next week,

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seek peace, live and love,Lead with kindness, embrace unity,
always work to raise your vibration.I know that you are love and you
are loved, and you are lovedby me so much in my heart,
I love you. This is theSena Metal Experience. I'm Sheena Metal.
I want to thank my guest PaulJask, my wonderful engineer and producer Emory,

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and of course my program director BillForte, and everybody at KJI Digital
Broadcasting Network. I'm honored to bea part of this family and you know
what. See you next week,next Friday, three o'clock. I love
you. Lacking