Scotty Rorek

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Episode Transcript

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And now I'm coming to you live. It's from the City of Angels,
Los Angeles, California. It's theSheena Metal Experience with your host Sena Metal
Only. I'm a KGRA Digital BroadcastingHi, and welcome to the Sheena Metal

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Experience. I'm KGRA Digital Broadcasting Network. I'm your host, Sheena Metal.
I'm a psychic medium, I'm aninterfaith minister. I'm a twenty nine year
talk radio host in Los Angeles andbeyond. I'm a paranormal survivor and a
creative and performing artist. And Icome to you live from my home in

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southern California every Friday at three o'clockPacific time. And this show is about
virtuality, it's about creativity, it'sabout humanity, it's about passion, it's
about service. It's about becoming andthen maintaining being your best you in this
big, beautiful world and then inspiringothers to do the same. And every

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week on the show, it maybe my show, but it's always without
a doubt, your experience. Andmy guest today is a wonderfully talented psychic
medium paranormal investigator. He is thepart of Psychics Unite that his wife founded
and to help other people who arepsychic to bring us all together instead of

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us tearing each other apart. He'salso a talented media host in his own
right. Please welcome to the show. The wonderful Scottie Rourke is here.
How are you, my friend?I am wonderful, wonderful, so I
have to be here again. I'dlove spending time with you. I know
what. I love being here withyou too. And you were supposed to
do this months ago. And thenI got the killer bug and I lost
my voice for like three weeks.So yeah, but then the worst thing

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happened was I ended up having twostrokes. Oh since then? Since then?
Yes, oh wow, are youfeeling okay? You doing all right?
I'm doing much better. So tomorrowI go to the doctor again.
I think they're going to finally releaseme and put me into full time back
at work. So everything has beenhealing, right, So I had my
first one that was really bad.The second one was kind of a minor

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one, but it put me backin the healing process and now I'm good.
So now I'm back and I haven'tdone much reading since then, but
I still do in my classes.I do teaching. I do you know,
psyched that type of stuff. Butyeah, I just haven't done the
readings because I wasn't too one hundredpercent sure of my gifts, you know.
I mean, I know, Ijust listen and they tell me anyway.

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But you know, it's when whenyou get this stroke stuff and you
have it, it's like, youknow, I'm just like, Okay,
am I pushing this? Or whatam I doing? You know? So
that's so that was the one thingthat I haven't done. But I'm getting
to the point where I'm leading toghost hunt this Saturday night at the Zoo
where I work at, and we'regoing to start back into it. Let's

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go good for you, Good foryou. I feel the same way.
Interestingly enough, sometime after I wasbick in June, I wound up not
feeling good, not feeling good,and then in August I had a giant
flare up of acute gastritis. Right, And it's interesting what you were saying
earlier. Everybody psychic people, dependingon where you take your messages, is

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you get hit right. Some havemigrains, some have strokes. For me,
it's always been solar plexus chakra.So for me, it's gastro intestinal
stuff. So I wound up withthis acute gastritis, and yes, I
completely changed the way I ate andI stopped eating for a couple of weeks.
Still it healed, and I'm stillcareful about what I eat. I've
lost a bunch of weight. I'mdoing a lot better, but I always

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look great. That part of itwas the fact that I was taking in
too much energetically from working with clients. I wasn't filtering enough out. So
I've made a tear a hard decisionfor me, really hard for me,
but I've had to weed out somepeople that were too toxic that I just

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think we're damaging me. And Ihate to ever say no to anybody or
turn anybody away. I give everybodya million chances and say, you know,
we kind of need to take downthe toxicity. And I don't mean
people with a lot of problems,because obviously people that come to us are
people that have problems. And Iunderstand that, I understand what You're sort
of push their toxicity onto you,right, Like, why can't you just

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take my pain for me? It'slike, well, for empathic people,
we do. And then something clothYou're right, I mean I agree one
hundred percent. I mean, I'velost almost fifty six pounds since the last
time we talked. I'm down tothe lowest weight I've been in for since

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grade school. I think because I'mdown to I used to wait three twenty
five and I'm one seventy five.Wow, So I'm feeling great. I'm
starting to get my energy back.I'm starting to get me back. But
I had to realize that it's it'sabout me even in all this, you
know, because a lot of timeswe put everybody first and then we forget
about ourselves and as people that dothe work and that are out here,

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we have to have that mix.We have to know the time when we
have to say, Okay, enough'senough. I have to take a nap.
You know, I have to,you know, just need I just
need time. I just know.That was a nice thing about I guess
if there's a nice thing about astroke was I got to come home from
work and take naps every day.So that was so just everybody was watching.

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If you had a stroke, youhave to take a nap every day.
It's spiritually ordained that you have yournap time. It works great.
I think the cat knows what he'sdoing because he works at full performance and
then he sleeps, and then hecomes back and he works at full performance
and then he sleeps. As soonas I think they have the right idea,

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I do too. I think it'sand it's something that we have to
learn. I mean, something wehave to do is is, yes,
I want to help everybody in theworld, and yes we're here to help,
but it's it's also about how abouthelping Scotty. How about Scotty helping
Scotty, And Scotty didn't do thatmuch, you know what I mean,
I haven't done that much in manyyears, and so it's like it's a

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lot of like, Okay, nowit's time for me too, because it
kind of you know, you kindof look at it and I'm not afraid
to pass. So if the nextone comes in and you know you and
I lost a very dear friend,Scott Grunwald, Yes, and he was
helping me during my strokes because hehad strokes too, and he was helping
me through this and then he passed. But it's but we have to get

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back to look at there's a timewhere our time is not forever, even
though we want to you know,this life is forever. We will always
have the next life and stuff,but this one we're in right now is
not forever. It's only it's fleeting. So make sure you get done what
you want to do. Make surelike I've been trying to tell people how
much I love them and all myfriends that by the way, she and

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I love you. I love youtoo, sweetheart, thank you for me,
thank you for having me. ButI mean and I've never and I've
not said that to a lot ofpeople. So I've called a lot of
people like Rob Demers and a lotof people that I've never said Keith Age,
and I called him and I said, dudes, I love you,
and they're like what I said,Yeah, I love you and thank you
for everything you've done for me.And so that's what it is. It's

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about me giving back to them forall the people that's helped me through all
my journeys here too. Absolutely Ihaven't said which I haven't said as much
and I should and going forward,I'm saying it every day. I love
that. Well, I'll say somethingthat I wasn't going to say, but
now I will. Scottie, Ilove you too. I love you so
you know that we met through Keith, who I love. Keith my hometown

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boy. I don't know if youknow this, but my mom was born
in Louisville. So oh nice,help me really find out where I come
from. And that's wonderful. Buttoday's slot that you took this day,
the ninth, twentieth of October,this was supposed to be Scott was supposed
to do the show today. Well, I'm very honored that I'm here for
him. I'm very honored that I'mhere for him because he was one of

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my dearest friends and he was thebest. He was so funny. I
used to do. I used todo that thing that the events, remember,
I used to do paranormal match game, which I still do. But
he was probably the funniest guess Iever had. I mean, in one
episode he burnt his chest hair onstage. He came in, came in

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almost naked to one of the shows. So Scotty was just amazing. He
was the one that goes on itnaked. I mean he did it on
TV. Yeah. Yeah. Hehad the best personality and the best outlook
for everything, right, And Iknow that he guides all of us now
from where he is, because Iknow he's as happy there as he was
here. And he told me,he told me some other personal and I'll

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say it on the air since we'retalking about him. He told me after
he passed, he goes, doit it's not your time. I said,
well, thanks for telling me,because because I said I thought I
thought it was I told him,you know, we were talking personally.
But then you know, when hepassed, he came right back to me
right away and said, do itnot your time, he said, so,
so get get what you want toget done done. I said,

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okay, I said, I will. Beautiful. That's beautiful. I'm so
glad you're doing better, and I'mI'm so sorry that we missed a harrowing
summer with each other. But maybewe'll stay stay in better touch, so
we'll know if these things happened toeach other moving forward, right. And
it was tough, and I didn'tI didn't. I didn't post it on
Facebook because I didn't need that.I'm not looking for that type of you

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know, celebrity in this just becauseyou're the sick one and everybody's out there.
That's not what it is. Ijust need a time for myself to
heal time for me and my familyand each other, you know, And
so that's what it was about.And so I'm sorry that I didn't say
to many people. I didn't.I didn't tell them I was I was

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sick or hadstrokes until after because nowI'm doing better, So you know what
I mean, I do. Andit was great because I didn't get any
of the face stuff, I didn'tget any of the speech stuff. I
mean, it was but it's stillmy whole right side. I went.
I couldn't even walk to the bathroomthat morning when it happened. So I
have my wife come home from herjob and race me to the hospital.

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So, oh, honey, I'mso sorry, but I'm so glad it
happened for a reason. Right,And now you're healthier, right, Oh,
I'm much healthier. I mean almostfifty almost sixty pounds lighter, and
my blood pressure is down, myblood sugars are normal. I even had
a twinkie the other day and Ilook at my blood sugar was still one
hundred and ten. I'm like,what that's never happened before? You know,

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everything everything's better, I mean,everything I'm doing is better, and
it's and I should have been doingthis my whole life, you know,
but I never thought it would happento me, And now that it happens
to you, then you go,damn it. You always think you're you're,
you're, you're, it's not goingto happen to you, and then
it does, and then you go, Okay, time to change. Yeah,

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Well, human beings are funny,and I fall into this category.
Sometimes I don't make change until Ihave to. I mean, many things
in my life I change, butwith my health, it seems like I
have to kind of get wrapped overthe head with knuckles before I'm like oh,
and then I'm so freaked out thatI totally change. Right. I've
kind of made a commitment to myselfto try to figure out what works and

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what doesn't work. Like last night, I had this little bit of salad
and my time I got really weirdand I'm like, okay, we're not
ready for lettuce, and then Ijust don't do it. In the past,
I would have pushed it, isit going to get better? And
now I'm like no, my body'strying to tell me what foods it will
take right now, and what foodsit wont and then of course I quit
sugar across the board because I justfeel like sugar my devil. It's not

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everyone's devil. And I just toldyou I had a twinkie. But for
you, celebration, for you,thank you. I go to my best
friends and she makes desserts and Ienjoy everyone eating them, and I enjoy
the smell of them. Yes,but I don't. I don't need to
do it anymore. But I wentso many years with my blood sugar is
so high that I couldn't even andI smelled sugar and I would, I

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would go away out, you know, And now now I'm I'm down.
My my doctor said to me,she said to me, she goes,
I've never seen you at this weight. I said, I know, I
said, my wife has never seenme at this weight. I mean when
I got we got married, Iwas two twenty five. Wow. I
mean, so my wife has neversaw me. And my doctor says,
I've never seen your blood pressure,blood sugar, but you know all this,

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I've never seen that because you've neverdone this good before. Yeah,
she goes, congratulations. But mygoal now is to continue and focusing on
daily stuff because I can't go back. I just I won't good good can't?
Yeah, And I love that youhave so much energy now to do

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new things. And you started anew paranormal group. Are you excited?
Is that that? Have you hada paranormal society before? Is this the
first one you found it? No, well, the Psychic group has been
We've been with that almost eight yearsnine years now, so but we actually
this is my first paranormal group.It's called Mad City Ghostbusters. We based

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it off my ECDO. So ifanyone out there is watching ECDO twenty two
has its own Facebook page, youcan go out and see my car.
So I have an ecdomobile just likeeveryone else, and we have the we
have the full uniforms and we evenhave patches that match and it's kind of
cool. But the nice thing aboutthat is we go out and help people.

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Like last year, I had hada person that was like thirty four
years old and he had a brainyou know, he had brain injury and
he couldn't remember very well, butbut one thing he did always remember was
Ghostbusters. Nice, So he decidedI decided. They called me up and
we spent the day together and Imade him a Ghostbuster for the day,

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we walked around with our packs intown and we threw the sirens on in
the car. We went out toeat together and so we had a great
day together. And you know,so it was just like that's what we
want to do. It we wantto help other people. Is we want
to help them if they if theyneed ghostbusters or make a wish or you
know, so like this this Halloween, we're going to a house to help

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them with trick or treating as ghostbusters. So you know, so it's it's
fun. People love it and andbut the great thing about it is is
the car's really given me my businesscard for my psychic work and my mediumship
work. You know. So it'sreally allows me to talk to a lot
of people. Because I go toa gas station, I take twenty minutes
to get out because everybody wants totalk to me, you know, every

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And that's that I guess that's thereal reason why we wanted to do it.
Was is because people don't want totalk to you about their gifts.
They don't want to talk to youabout their experiences because they're afraid people are
going to make fun of them.They're gonna they're gonna thiss some make you
know, do all kinds of crapto them, But with somebody with a
car like that, they're going tocome right out to us and start talking

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with us and telling us the stories. And that's what kind of ties in
with Psychics United too. We alwayswant a place for everybody to go,
and that has you know, likeminds, you know, place you can
go tell your stories. We've helpedso many people. I mean, I
remember one of our first meetings ever, we helped the lady who was in
her seventies and she ever told anyoneher whole life that she had gifts.

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But she came out in the meetingand started crying because she finally could do
it in a place that you know, was comfortable for her to do it.
So it kind of works in both. You know, the ghostbusting thing
kind of is the fun reason forit. And you know, and as
for me, that's you know,I met Ernie Hudson, and I've met
Dan Aykroyd, and I've done theshow with Ernie and it was so funny

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there. He actually because everybody goesup to him to talk to him about
ghost stories and he goes, guys, I'm an actor, this is not
what I did. And he andhe turns to me because we were talking
beforehand because I invited him on Ghostson us. He goes, no,
he turns over and he goes,he's the Ghostbuster. And I started crying.
We're like, oh my god.Ernie Huston called me a ghostbuster.

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I was so happy. But Ithank Dan Ackroy because you know, Dan's
grandfather was the psychic medium. Idid not know that, yep. And
and Dan's family and Dan's grandfather andgrandma and mom and dad were all spiritualists,
you know, from from Lily Dale. I did not know that.
Isn't that he was my favorite?So didn't I know why? And he

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always believed he still believes in that. But that's where Ghostbusters came from.
His belief in the spiritual and theparanormal side to all this, and that's
why he went on and that's whyhe careate Ghostbusters so beautiful. I love
that. Yeah, Ernie, Ithink I think both of them. I
said, I thank you guys forhelping me, because I don't even think
you and I would be here todaywithout Ghostbusters really, because it's really made

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it commonplace. Stands up when youwatch it, it stands up. So
Ernie Hudson was at my prom.Here's a funny story. So I grew
up an hour south of LA inHuntington Beach, California, Surf City,
USA, and we had our promat the Disneyland Hotel. And I don't
know how this happened. Nineteen eightyfive, Scottie. Our prom band was

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the bus Boys. Oh my god, I love the bus Boys. Oh
my god. So now anyway,so Ernie was there at the prom and
performed on stage. Then everybody wasexcited. Twenty years later, ten years
later, I started booking music.In the first club I ever booked,
I had this band named Black Bartthat used to play for me. And

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one day I said to the singer, why is your voice familiar? He
said, Oh, I'm the singerfrom the bus Boys. So then we
became friends. So now Brian O'Neillis one of my very good friends.
I love him, and I lovethe bust to introduce me. I would
love that he's done my show agazillion times. I loved him. God,

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And what a great thing that wasfor them, and what a fantastic
band they are, And how luckyam I that they were our prom band.
We always look around at each otherand say, like, how did
we luck out that this was ourprom because they were on the charts with
the song from Ghostbusters and the timethey sure? Were? They sure?
And that's my It's funny because that'smy son's ring tone is the bus Boys.

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Oh that's so cool. I willdefinitely. Rian is the nicest man
you've ever met in your life,and extremely spiritual. That extremely spiritual.
As a matter of fact, wehad dinner one night from my birthday at
his house and I was, youknow, still full bore entertainment, entertainment,
and my gifts were very much athing my mother had and mine were

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stuffed in the closet and I hadjust started performing doing my radio shows live
from the Hollywood Improv and he hadcome to one of those and he said
to me, I'm gonna tell yousomething. It's gonna sound really out there,
but you have gifts. Like allthe stuff that you do as a
performer, there is something underneath thatfuels all of that, and you're gonna

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wind up flipping and that thing isgonna wind up becoming your thing, and
you're going to realize that that's whatyou need to be doing with your life.
And I'm thinking, what is hetalking about? He's why is he
saying? And then I did andI'm like you, you, Brian O'Neil,
you got gifts and saw that insideof me. And I always say

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now when people I interview people thatknew me before I came out of the
psychic, that I now wear myunderwear on the outside. This is always
who I was now you just seeit, right, But man, he
was right over that next couple ofyears. That was That was twenty fifteen,
and but it was what the timewe met, right, that was

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well, yeah, twenty thirteenth,mid South paranormal. Right, you came
in. That's what we do,yeap. By the time twenty sixteen seventeen
rolled around, I was opening mypractice. As a matter of fact,
I started it all started with mymovement raising the vibration dot org that I
founded after my mom died. Sotwenty sixteen, so the next year I
was already making that change. So, yeah, he's a magical guy.

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You're gonna love him good. Icome on, and we can do we
can do spiritual stuff with him.So oh I would love that. I
would talk cool. Now are youstill doing media? Are you still doing
your radio show? I am not, I am. I am between years.
I took a year off, andI'm glad I did because I wouldn't
have amaze it through this whole lastsummer. Right, So, but but

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no, I'm planning to get back. It was funny. I don't know
if everybody knows, but one ofone of our my dear friends and try
I'm having an abide in a momentwith his name, I always go,
come on, man. So ifI say that during the show, you
know I've lost my train of thought. Sure, sure, come on man.

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Anyway, Rob Demrist he calls meup the other day, and so
everybody that's listening, if you don'tknow Rob, Rob was one of the
first ones on Ghost Hunters International.He was the lead investigator and ran all
the teams. Yes, yes,yes, And so that's where I met
all the guys. I mean,Scott Tepperman and my best friend in the
w world, Paul Bradford, youknow all those guys. So I mean

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that's where I knew that team verywell. Anyway, he calls me up
the other day and he goes,Okay, Scotty time to go get back
on the radio said okay, soI'm working, We're trying to figure out
how to get back. So yeah, it was about time to come back.
So British gentleman, right, Yes, yes, it was funny because
he was on my radio show.He was on my radio show first as

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my tech guy. He would comeout every week and do a tech segment
and then he was like, oh, should I try out for ghost Hunters?
I said, yeah, go forit. You know, I'll put
in a word. And he goton, he got cast and wow,
and then he got a citizenship andhe's just he's one of the greatest here.
Oh yeah. He lives in Cincinnatinow, so right out there here,

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it's always like old Home Week.Can we get together? You know
who I have had on this showand many of my radio shows, and
who I love a lot is BarryFitzgerald. Oh yeah, Berry's wonderful,
my dear friends. And see Barrytook over for Rob. Yes, yeah,
because Rob started ghost Hunters International andthen they changed the host or lead

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investigators, right and Barry. ThenBarry took over after Rob left. Yeah.
I always say that someday Barry's goingto invent the thing that we can
all just look at and go,oh, there's all the spirits. We
wondered why we couldn't see them alland now we can, right, Yeah,
fallen into like all this, likeyou know, Irish folklore and researching

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all this stuff from legend and I'mlike, oh, that's good though,
that's you know, you go downthat road, you know, like like
ben Hansen has done that. HeBen Hanson's way more into UFOs now than
he ghosts, you know anymore.And so everybody, you know, you
kind of get into. Okay,I'm not gonna this might sound bad,
but we have to do something elsesometimes. Does that make sense? And

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I think I don't want to bebad about it because I love the spiritual.
I love what I do. Butthere's other times and other things you
want to talk about. Yeah,I know. That's why I always change.
That's why I changed my radio show. And my last incarnation on my
radio show was Scotty Talks about andthat's all I did. I just came
on the air and we would talk, you know, if we went down,

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if we went down anything, ifwe went down McDonald's Hamburger's today,
that's what we would talk about.It didn't matter what we talked about.
I just had a guest on andwe would talk. Yeah, yeah,
I guess that's where I would Iwant to go back to. If I'm
going to go back, I'm goingto go back to something like that,
because that's what I do with allmy shows, whether their genre or not.

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Right, that's what this show,right, spirituality meets creativity, which
means no matter where in the wherein my life you come from, you
belong here and we'll talk about everything. Right, Yeah, I agree with
that. That's what it's got tobe about. And and the other great
thing about your show, and that'swhy I love doing your shows, is
is that we just talk. Yes. Yeah. You don't sit there and
ask me questions the whole time andyou've got like ten questions written out and

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then at the end of my tenthquestion, you go. I've been on
shows where they've run out of questionsand they just say, okay, Scott,
you talk. Yeah, it's yourshow, but I'll talk but all
the rest of the night. Butstill the ones where they power through the
question and then they're like, Okay, I guess we're done, and I'm

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like it's been eight minutes. Really, thanks for doing your research on your
before we got together. Well,here's my thing from a spiritual perspective,
And as I said, I've beenin entertainment since I was four years old,
but my spiritual life has always runthe show. If I write down
ten twenty questions to ask you,and certainly I could because you could answer

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them all, Scottie, then I'mcontrolling where the show is going to go.
And there could be some magic thingsthat you want to bring up that
aren't going to get brought up becausethey're not on my question list, right,
And I think when you let thecontrol go, that's when the magic
comes in. So that's why.And trust me, I've worked for radio
stations that I got busted for notputting the questions together. And when I

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did stand up comedy, I wasalways getting in trouble for not having one
routine that I did over and overagain. I'm like, people don't want
to hear me say the same thingevery week. I want to just vibe
off the audience to say whatever,thinking that's so funny you say that because
you know I did improv, right, No, I did not, Yeah,
I did improv for many years.I owned my own club for a
while. I did I did theatersports out of out of what Calgary,

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Canada, was a group up thereand the comedy sports is it wasn't la.
I don't know if they're still outthere, but we used to do
improv comedy, just like Who's Lying? And we used to do that all
the time. Yeah, I ownmy own club for a while. It
was really it was amazing. Butthat's why I always because I got into
it. One time we were ata club and we were opening for Louis

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Anderson, and Louis says, oh, I couldn't do what you would do.
And now he's passed too, buthe says, oh, I could
never do what you do. Isaid, well, I said, I
could never do what you do.He says, yeah, it's easy.
Just write a couple of jokes andsay it over and over and over again.
Yeah, he says, what youdo is you take any situation and
make it funny. And he goes, that's what I have a hard time

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with. I said, well,but I bet you could do it all
the time too, you know.So that's what it is. I mean.
But that's what made a good radiohost of both of us is the
fact that we do improv. Wejust sit there and go with it and
wherever we're going, we're going andwe don't stop and go, Okay,
let's bring the show back now,let it go, let it have fun,
keep it off the tracks, let'sgo. Well, all the messages

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are going to come through. Ifthere's something really important that you need to
say in this hour, or Ineed to say in this hour, trust
me, it's going to come out. It come through. Yeah. If
it doesn't, then it's for thenext show, right, or it's not
forever because it wasn't meant to be. I mean, I think if you
live. One thing live radio didfor me, which is so beautiful,
is it taught me to live inthe isness, right, Because when you're

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live, you don't have time tothink about or fret or worry about the
future or think about the past forhowever many hours a day you're doing it.
You're just in that moment, right, And it's taught me how beautiful
being in that moment and being inthe present is. And that's why I
think you you take a journey together. Right. You're here, I'm here.
We're both tapping into everything the everythingright, and then Spirit's going to

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guide us where this hour is supposedto be and make it perfect. And
anything that we think we need totalk about can go in the next one
or when I do your show,or when we're at a conference together,
whatever the story is, if itneeds to come out, it will come
out. But to get all like, you know, the super controlling of
it, I think takes the magicaway. It takes that that property of

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the isness away, right, itdoes. It really does. By the
way, anytime you have anyone dropcall me, I will, Yeah,
absolutely dial I will. And don'tthink I won't take you up on that.
I'm I'm completely jewel. I wouldn'tbe offering if I didn't want to.
Now you know one more story aboutmy promise. Want to tell you

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When they sang the song from Ghostbustersand Ernie Hudson came out, it was
like a group of high school studentsall dressed up in their tuxedos and ball
gowns. Because in the eighties wewore the big my dressed look like Scarlett
O'Hair wore it. Just this stage, I mean, like nothing you've ever

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seen in your life, Like hundredsof teenagers rushed up to that stage because
it was the Ghostbuster song and howamazing is that? And you're right,
I also introduced I interviewed once Brianwith Ray Parker Junior because they're friends.
Oh okay, they tour together.And isn't it amazing that one little movie

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movies like that, like Poultergeist.I just interviewed doctor Barry Taff on my
radio show last week, and oh, he's fantastic. And you know,
the team, the team in Poultergeistwas based on his team from UCLA.
Man, that movie still holds up. You watch that movie and you're like
that that could happen in somebody's housetomorrow. Maybe not the body's popping out

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in the pool, but everything uptill then when the paranormal team comes,
you're like, you know, theresearch team. You know, you're like,
that's that's a thing. Yeah,you know, and that's let me
go back to Ghostbusters, but thatyou know, you're talking about how everybody
loved it and they still love itand they still and it just doesn't hold
up because it's a good movie.It holds up because there's something about it

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that that really is starting to makethe world start seeing that spirit is always
with us, and we all knowit, and we've always had it,
and our families have had it,our grandparents have told us, but we've
all put it away because you know, during the fifties and the sixties,
it was not the times, youknow. But that's when I come out,
you know, all of a sudden, here I am in the eighties

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and I'm getting dates all the timebecause I'm the ghostbuster. I can see
goat, you can talk to ghostsright right, you know. And in
the seventies I was going to belocked up in a home, you know.
I mean, it's taken a longtime. I mean even today,
I still get shit on on theopen sorry, I still get I still

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get crap on the internet from peoplethat come after you, you know,
about you and your beliefs, youknow, and you just go. We
still having today, but the amountof it is less. But then again,
it's just keyboard warriors who wouldn't tellme in front of my face.
They would only do it on thething because they can hype behind their keyboard,

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yes, instead of being right herein front of me and tell me
about my gifts and and me Andthen I would tell him stuff about their
family and they would like be inshock. I've done that many times.
I mean I've had you have thattoo. Oh yeah, I had.
I had a psychiatrist that came fora reading, him and his sister.
So they both came and they bothscheduled two readings, and so he came

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in first, and within within afew minutes I had him crying and and
he was like, he goes,how do you know this? I mean,
I was like by the end,he was like, oh my god,
he says. And then his sistercame in to try to spook me
again, and I and I firstthing I said to her, I said,
you're you're you're what's I'll just say, Mike, you're Mike's sister.

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And she goes, how do youknow that? I said, because you
got the same spirits here, soof course I know. So the same
grandma, same grandpa, so youare the same family, so you're your
sisters. And after that they totallybelieved. But you have to kind of
put a couple of people in theirplace like that once in a while,
just throw some facts at them.Yes, I'm fascinated by people that come.

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And then the whole time they wantto tell you that everything is wrong
right, and then you look backand you're like, but wait a minute.
Then they'll say, oh, well, you know, I'll say something
like, you know, your momdied tragically. No, no, and
then five minutes later it's well,my mom died in a horrific car accident.
She suffered well, and then I'llhave to go back and very gently

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say, oh, that must havebeen when I was getting when spirit said
your mother died tragedy. They don'tlike. I think there's this response to
just say no, no, no, And sometimes people have to think about
it and come back and realize,oh, yeah, because we're conditioned still.
And I think there's a some peoplefeel guilty when they go to a

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psychic medium because we're can that it'snot real. It's not real, it's
not real, it's not real.That we don't even want to believe the
stuff when it's in front of us, right. And you know, here's
another thing though, and I willgive some people credit for this though,
And you talk to that you don'tremember right away. We call it psychic
amnesia. It's because when like ifI'm at a gallery reading doing you know,
a whole thing all of a sudden, it'll be like ten minutes later

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they'll go, oh, you know. They then they remember, or the
person that's with them goes, hey, that's you know, that's your grandpa
or that's your dad, you know, yes, yes, yes, oh
yeah, yeah, yeah, noI remember. So they're just caught up
in the moment that they don't reallyrealize and kind of think back to that
moments yes, or they put itaway so far that you have to kind

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of jar it out of them,you know. So I do give some
people that, and then some otherpeople are there just to stump us sure
yes, and they're usually they're usuallynot usually don't but yeah, or they'll
or they'll lie about something, orthey'll and then they just think, I
don't know, that's such a Icall that the Dog and Pony Show.
I'm like, if you want toplay that game, go to a carnival

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and play it. Right, tellthis client a couple of weeks ago,
I mean long term client. Right, I've seen her on a regular basis
for many, many years, andshe still does this thing where she'll say,
what can you tell me about Friday? And and I've played the game
for years. But then like Isaid, I went through some changes after

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my stomach exploded, and I finallysaid to her, you know, when
you tell me, what can youtell me about Friday? I could talk
to you for three hours about Friday. It's really not a good use of
your session time or your money tomake me try to figure out every single
thing you did Friday and which thingyou're trying to ask me about if you

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have a question, just to askit, because it's really a better use
of your time. So here's theother thing. Here's the other thing with
that, and I agree, Buthere's the other thing. Everything I could
tell you about Friday, you cango now and that you know it and
do nothing right and then all ofa sudden, Friday is different because you

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chose to have Friday different than doingwhat you would normally do right right,
Which is why I won't give anybodydeath dates. And when is my elderly
mother gonna die? First of all, stop focusing on that, Yeah,
why why bring that up? Whywork on energy into mommy's death? And
secondly, if I tell you whenshe's christ of all, I won't ask.

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And even if I ask, they'renot gonna tell me. I like
not your business, not your business? Why do you why are you fixating
on that? And if you knewyou would, you would live differently because
you knew. It's not for usto know, or when am I gonna
die? It's like, is thatreally what you're asking me? And my

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other favorite is I just got togetherwith a new guy. When is it
going to end? What? Hopefullynever? So why are you bringing it
to the universe? You know,why are you putting it out? Why
are we already thinking about the end? Are you not even enjoying the beginning?
Right? So it's you know,I just think that we are we're

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conditioned as earthbound creatures that we're supposedto be in control of everything we are.
And that's exactly what I brought upwhen I talking about the stroke,
was exactly that. It's the factthat I've realized that it doesn't matter what
I do tomorrow. It doesn't matterwhat I do even in ten minutes.
It matters that I'm here with Sheenaon her show having a good time.

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Yes, that's what That's what happened. Matters is that we're together, We're
enjoying time together. We've been friendsfor all these years, and it's time
to enjoy each other's company for afew moments. Yeah, and that's what's
important. It's not even about whatI'm doing next, or what I'm having
for dinner or whatever it is,you know what I mean, that's not
what it is. And we spendtoo much time of our lives worrying about

(37:00):
the next thing instead of enjoying thething that we're doing. Yes, I
completely agree. Yeah, we're neverenjoying the time with someone. We're just
wondering when they're going to die becausewe fear loss so badly that we project
a loss into everything, but whenthere isn't even any loss. My mama

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used to have this wonderful expression.She would always say, it hasn't happened
yet. So as a young person, I had to have a lot of
surgeries. And when I knew Ihad to have a surgery, I mean,
your inclination is to start panicking eventhough it's two months off. And
she would always say, today isnot the day you're having the surgery.
Tomorrow's not the day you're having thesurgery. So let's have a great today,
Let's have a great tomorrow because ithasn't happened yet, right, And

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that taught me to not even theday before a surgery to enjoy it,
because guess what, Today's not theday I'm having a surgery, So I
can really enjoy my day today.And when it is the day I'm having
the surgery, then that's the day. And then the next day, even
though I may be a little miserable, the surgery's over, and now you're
on the road to recovery, right, right, And you kind of have

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to think like that or you spendall of your time panicking about the next
thing that could happen. And couldhappen is the ideal term, because half
the stuff we worry about never evenhappens, right, right, and it's
not meant to be, and youknow, and then unfortunately the stuff that
we give energy to all of asudden will happen and then it'll be nasty

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and then we'll go see and thatdoesn't work that way. Just be happy
about it, you know, behappy about your moments, and you know,
be positive about it. You know, once we do that, then
then then it works so much better. Yeah, I agree, one hundred
percent. Let's talk a little bitabout psychics unite. Where did you guys
get the idea, How did itstart? Because it's so needed because psychics

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sometimes Scotty are not nice to eachother. They're not and that's you know,
that was one of my that wasone of my caveats when we were
we're talking about it was how arepsychics going to get the end? Medium
is going to get together and worktogether? But then we realize that it's
not about us. It's not aboutour practices. Because all the people that

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are in our group here in Madison, I mean we've gotten I think we
got like ten eleven groups running rightnow, but everybody in our group has
grown their business because of us.Because because everybody knows of everybody. Now
everybody knows of everybody in the town. Were starting, you know, you
start getting this knowledge of each other, and that's what's the important thing,

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you know, just like we're talkingabout. But the idea came from from
my wife. I mean she alwaysshe had this client or this lady that
she knew in Chicago, and shewent down there and she saw on her
desk, you know, all thesescenes with all these animals on it,
and she goes, she goes,oh, she goes, do you like
animals? She goes, no,but when I go to like the aquariums

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and stuff, all the animals comeup to you me. And so right
there, my wife knew right away, she knew that, you know,
had some abilities, you know,and so they started talking about it.
But once again, she never hadanybody to turn to. So now she
saw me never had anyone to turnto my whole life. She had this
lady who never had And then thenshe's told us then that lady told her

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that she had a near death experienceand she saw herself on the table when
she died, and then she realizedthat wasn't her time, so she came
back and then her gifts were evenstronger ever since. Yes, but that's
that's it. But we never hadanybody to talk to, right And that's
and that's how the idea came.And she she so Terry always thinks that
and she doesn't claim it it's heridea. She she claims that the universe

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has this knowledge and they put itinto work. You know, so many
people get the same thoughts. Somebodyhas to push it forward and then it
happens. Yes, And so that'syou know, my wife is super humble
that way, and she's super amazingthat way. But you know, but
that's what it is, and itreally is blossomed because of it. Because

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and that's where the ghosts car camefrom. Because we're willing to be anywhere,
and just like on my car sayswe're ready to believe you, and
we are. Ye, you know, we're ready to talk to you about
your ghost story. If you're atWalmart and you want to tell me ghost
stories, go right ahead. Yes, yes, I love it. I
feel the same way. And Igot used to it because my mom,
you know, didn't come out asa psychic until I was in college.

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And I remember when I was akid, like people were so drawn to
her. Random people would come upto her places and just tell her her
whole life selom, her whole lifestory. And my mom was kind of
a shy person. She didn't askfor that, right, but but people
would just sit down next door,like, well, we were waiting for
the car at the dealership, andjust start telling her all their deepest,
darkest secrets. And I remember whenI was a kid, when we moved

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here, when I was thirteen,and I'd be in the back with my
friends. We'd all been playing inthe pool and all of a sudden,
I would work around and realize Iwas the only one in the cool and
all the kids would be like sittingaround my mom's you know, easy chair,
like a like the cover of ahighlights magazine, and they would all
be asking her like when should Igo to college? Should I break up

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with my boyfriend? What should Ido about this? And she never had
spoken a word about being a psychic. I don't think she ever even said
it out loud to anybody but meand my best friends until I had her
on my Haunted Playground radio show maybeten years ago, so there's maybe like
three or four years before she passed. Could she ever even talked about it
out loud? Wow? Well,I'm glad she was able to yeah,

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and with me for many, manyyears. But for her, I always
saw it as I think because ofher age. She was born in nineteen
thirty three of something that was difficultfor her. It was a secret that
she kept. YEP, I understandit. I mean, because I was
born in nineteen sixty five, nota good time to talk about ghosts,
right, What year did you starttalking about it? In nineteen sixty nine?

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Okay? But then did you keeptalking about it. Yes, until
about until about seventy five, okay, seventy six, and then I stopped
then and I didn't start up untileighty three, okay, yeah, then
I and then I went and thenGhostbusters came out. But what funny was

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I had an experience at the universityI was at, and right before Ghostbusters
came out, I saw a fullbody apparition in our theater where I was
working. And I told I camerunning out screaming, just like they did
in a Ghostbuster. But it wasfunny. The two matched up so much
that that everyone goes, oh,you're just retelling the movie. I go,

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Actually, I told her before themovie came out, Yes, you
go, Oh that's right, youdid. I go, yeah, that's
right, I did. And sobut I saw a lady full body apparition
right there. You know, shewas at no feat but she wasn't a
library or anything, so it wasa little different. But then I came
out and then but at that time, then the Ghostbusters came out and made
everything normal for me. It wasthe first time in my life that I

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actually felt normal, that you actuallyfelt validated. I felt, here,
here are some men that that areworking with ghosts. But they're not getting
picked on there. People are laughingat them, people are dating then,
people are having fun with them,running to them at the at their prom,
you know what I mean, allof a sudden, here's all these

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people that that, all of asudden, ghosts and them are cool.
But then everything came out then,you know, then John Zappis and all
the you know, then all theother groups he's so amazing, and you
know, the Warrens and all.I mean, all this stuff started blossoming
because Ghostbusters, yeah, you know, you know, and then In Search

(44:52):
of It and all the other showsthat were on back then. You know,
it all came from Ghostbusters. Theyreally did. Yeah, and it's
still does and they're still making moviesof Ghostbusters. You know, they're still
doing it. I felt like becauseI grew up in a very negative,
active, haunted house in Balta outsideof Baltimore before we moved here, and
I always felt like we felt likethere was nobody that understood. We didn't

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know who to go to. Youknow, we weren't Catholics, so we
didn't know to go to a priest, and we just didn't talk about it.
And when those shows started in thein the nineties, right with Most
Most Haunted in Britain and the stuffon the Travel Channel. So I was,
you know, by then, Iwas in my twenties and I it
was like therapy for me. Andwhen I started doing this talk show on

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the station I was at before this, I just started like finding people's emails
on Facebook or on their websites andjust inviting everyone to come to the show.
And it became therapy for me torealize that other people had existed in
the same kind of house I did. But I always think there's other people
out there now that maybe aren't watchingthose shows or it's not okay because of

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their religion or their culture, andthey don't know that it's okay, and
maybe they're in the same kind ofhouse and they don't know what to do.
You know. That's why psychis unite. That's why I'm Mad City Ghostbusters,
That's why I'm here, That's whyyou're here. This is why we're
doing this. I mean I haveto since you brought up Most Haunted,

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I have to talk about Derek Acora. Here's the medium on here. Derek
was a very good friend and he'spassed now too. He was the one
that actually told me he was onmy radio show, and he actually told
me that I would be doing allthis. He told me, you know,
Scott, you're a stronger medium thanI am. You and your spirit

(46:45):
guide are going to do more thanme and Sam. I mean, he
went through this whole list of stuffhe's gonna say, You're gonna be a
TV movies, radio blah blah blah, and everything he said that day came
true and still coming true. SoI have to thank Derek for getting me
on the path because he really kindof pushed me forward. So yeah,
now that now that he's on theother side, he's still talks to me,

(47:06):
so i'm are are still buddies.So it's that I never got to
interview him, But I interviewed DavidWells and he was wonderful. When Derek
got his own show. I rememberwhen Derek had his own show. I
don't remember what it was called,but I remember they would do the Ding
Dong divination. Yes, I doknock on random people's doors in the English
countryside and tell them about their spiritualstuff. That's that's funny. I created

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a show with Scott Gruenwald Okay,since I'm taking this spot, let's bring
this full circle around. Scott Greenwaldthe Night created a show called Ambush Paranormal.
Oh wow, we were just goingto a place and ambush it and
start telling them about their ghosts andstart investigating. So he's like walking to
a McDonald's with all their gear.Poral One of the episodes we filmed was

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we got this lady's room key.It's for this guy that gave me he
went to bed early at a convention. We got his room key. We
went into his room and we ambushedhim with the paranormal. But unfortunately he
was naked in bed and we werelike, you pulled the blanket off,
we had to put it back.So Ambush paranorul was so funny. It

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was all the same, So that'sfantastic. Yeah, Derek was the best.
And he would get this face likehe's about to get possessed. And
you'd see that face and you go, oh my god, here he goes
he's getting possessed. It was funnybecause my my manager, now she hates
the word manager, so I won'tso Gail. Gail and my old manager

(48:40):
Andy, they both they both knewthose times when spirit was coming close to
me because they could see the changein my eyes. They knew right away.
It was like, Okay, Scotty'sgoing bye bye. Here he goes
the spirit. He's talking extra withthat spirit because here he goes. And
so they had to do a lotof stuff to grab me and make sure
it don't fall down and stuff,and they're like, Okay, Scotty's going.

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That's fantastic, so awesome, doyou Madison is an interest in Wisconsin's
an interesting place, right, there'sa lot of a lot of When my
mom went to college in Milwaukee anddid her first masters at the University of
Wisconsin in Madison, and Mike,my godmother, who was her college roommate,
was from there. And what afantastic I remember going there as a

(49:25):
kid. We lived in Chicago fora while I was a kid and we
spent a lot of time there.What a magic place that is. It
is wonderful. It's probably the Isay, it's the most accepting town in
the world. I would you know. I mean, I know Berkeley is
pretty accepting and right, but Madisonis by far lgbt Q I and plus

(49:52):
doesn't matter, black, white,Mexican, whatever, you are, you're
accepted here in Madison. It's beautiful. It's just wonderful. And everybody can
go out if your trans you cango out dressed, if you're no matter
what you're doing, Madison accepts you. And that's why. So you know,
psychic mediums, we're all accepted.People talk about it all the time.

(50:13):
That's why I said I can't getout of a gas station for twenty
minutes because everyone's talking about it now. But that's Madison. I mean,
we're here just I mean, Milwaukee'sa little different, you know than even
here, but Milwaukee's getting better.But Madison has been always, by far,
the best place. So if you'renot accepted anywhere, no matter where

(50:34):
you are in this country, comingto Madison, Wisconsin, I love it
is by far. It's cold,but it's still wonderful. Right. It's
hot in the summer, cold inthe winter, but well we never get
too much over nineties. Okay,so doing we don't get like California.
But I remember my mom went oneyear for her her college reunion and the
cows were fainting because yes, soyou know, we get that once in

(50:57):
a while. Everyone's while the cowsyou are wonderful, my friend. Will
you come back and do this withme again soon? I will do it
whenever and always. So where canpeople find you online and get to know
you better? So you can seemy name? There is Scottie Rourke.
You can go to scottieurk dot comand anyone of the anyone of the what

(51:20):
social media platform it's all Scotty Ark. So it's right there my name and
it's just Scotty Ark or whatever.I'm even on dot now. You know
those dot cards, you know thoseyeah thing you can do on your phones,
it's Scotty Ark there too, Sojust come by Scotty Ark no matter
where you're looking, TikTok everywhere.So awesome. Thank you for being here,
my friend, the wonderful Scottie Rourick, everybody thanks to him, and

(51:43):
thanks to Kay Jerry Digital Broadcasting Networkfor making this happen every week, and
of course my wonderful engineer and producerEmory and my program director Bill, who
are fantastic and so honored to behere every Friday at three o'clock Pacific time.
My website is Sheena Metal Spiritual dotcom. That's where you can find
me sheenametalspiritual dot com everywhere on socialmedia at Sheena Metal. That's Facebook,

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if you want and say hi eightone eight area code four three seven zero
eight eight six until I see younext time. My friends, seek peace,
live and love, Lead with kindness, embrace unity. Always work to

(52:29):
raise your vibration and not just yours, but everyone around you and the vibration
of the everything. And please knowthat you are love and you are loved,
and you're so loved by me.Sheena. This is the Sena Metal
Experience on KGr, a Digital BroadcastingNetwork, and I'll see you next week.
Have a goe