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May 27, 2025 46 mins
We’ve got fewer than 100 days until brand new Buckeye football becomes available, but there’s plenty to talk about as the offseason drags on. For starters, we open this episode with discussion of Ohio State trying to move the opener against Texas to prime time on Sunday, Aug. 31. The Longhorns said no, and we support that decision, as we are college football purists (and old guys who are set in our ways) who think college football should be played on Saturdays — except for MACtion.

Aside from the date of the Texas game, we address the subject of noon kickoffs, which are OK, but admittedly there must be a lot more variety to keep the playing field level from a recruting standpoint. Ohio State prospects in Texas, California, Georgia, Florida, or elsewhere have to be able to play their games on Friday nights and have time to physically fly to Columbus for their visits on game days. The one thing nobody needs is a grandstanding population wasting everyone’s time by trying to legislate away a television contract the universities signed up for in exchange for a lot of money.

The Buckeyes have a new quarterback with an excellent name in transfer Eli Brickhandler. We don’t expect him to play a lot, if at all, but we’re here for the name and we hope he can at least get some snaps late in blowout games. Speaking of quarterbacks, Ryan Day says the competition is close, and we have no reason to doubt him, but we saw what we saw, and we still think Julian Sayin has the advantage entering preseason camp.

Changes are coming to the seeding in the College Football Playoff. It may be a bit premature after one iteration of the 12-team playoff to start making changes, but it is what it is.

Finally, we wish a speedy and complete recovery to Julian Fleming, who sustained severe injuries in an ATV crash and offer our deepest condolences to Julian for the loss of his girlfriend in the accident.

We are in our monthly offseason schedule, but we could have more than one show a month depending on how much news there is. We will return to our weekly schedule in August, as camp opens and we get you ready for the 2025 Ohio State football season.

We would love to hear from you, so please reach out with your feedback and questions via email at SilverBulletsPod@gmail.com. Any questions directed toward us will be answered on our next show.Be sure to subscribe, rate, review, share, and follow the show over on Twitter at @SilvrBulletsPod.

As always, thanks for listening!

0:20 — Texas denies Ohio State’s bid to move the game to Sunday, Aug. 31; noon kickoffs; and stupid legislation to stop noon kickoffs.

15:25 — Eli Brickhandler brings his excellent name to the OSU quarterbacks room and the quarterback battle isn’t over according to Ryan Day.

31:50 — There’s a change coming to the seeding formula in the College Football Playoff and we extend our deepest sympathies and well wishes to former OSU receiver Julian Fleming.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hello again, everybody. Welcome to the Silver Bullets podcast. I'm
Michael Citrow and I'm chip Minnick Chip. We are back
with our May episode in the off season, which means
we got June and July and then we're going to
go back to our weekly schedule.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm getting closer and closer.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Absolutely, It's been a bit of a quiet month as
far as Ohio State news, but not completely quiet, and
of course we can dive right into the news. In fact,
one of the interesting things about this past month was
that we learned Ohio State tried to move the Texas
game to a Sunday Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
That that came out recently, that that they had proposed
a moving of the game scheduled against Texas to the
Sunday night slot. That Texas has said thanks, but no thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
And they're going to keep it. We still don't have
the official kickoff time.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
That's as we're recording this. Well, we will get that
probably later this week. The first three weeks of the
season will be released for not just for Fox, but
for other media outlets of color that covered college football.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
So we still don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
The strong speculation it's going to it's going to be
a Noon Kickoff on.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Fox, Big Nune Kickoff. It's uh, it's where the folks
at Fox would like to have Ohio State chained as
a slave forever.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Unfortunately. Yeah, I mean it's I understand.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I'm not here to try to convince you or persuade
any of our listeners about the good things or the
bad things associated to the Big Noon Kickoff. I mean,
I'm not trying to. I understand, I get it. I
understand the frustration about having games, like you said, you know,
changed perpetually to that big neon slot. The argument that

(02:16):
I make against people that are so very much anti
Big Noon Kickoff is that Ohio State, along with all
the other Big Ten members, very willingly and happily signed
their agreement with Fox or a contract that goes for

(02:39):
several more years that is paying them quite handsomely.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
And until Ohio.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
State says, oh no, we'll do without one hundred million
dollars that we're getting as a result of this contract,
I just don't see. To me, it just seems like
wasted energy to kind of complain about something that all
the Big ten members willingly signed. Now to that point,
here's my my amateur lawyer perspective is that the next

(03:07):
round of negotiations, whenever they may happen, is that maybe
you can kind of build into it a stipulation where
teams that are on Big Noon kickoff more than the
other Big Ten members should get a larger piece of
the of the proverbial pie. Again, that's just my thought,
because there's a there's a reality. There's a reality of

(03:28):
Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State being predominantly asked to be
on Big New Ohio State, especially last year. And we
all know this is what was one of the points
that I brought up is when you think about it,
the four West Coast teams that are that are now
members of the Big Ten, they know that they will

(03:50):
they will never ever be asked to host a Big
Noon game just because of the time difference.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
The realities of that for them.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, that would be fair. That would be fair if
Ohio State, hey we're going to put you on. I'm
just throwing a number out here six times, maybe this
coming season that hey, maybe Ohio State, you know, maybe
they should get a bigger piece of the of the
contract for that particular season.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Here's here's what I where I'm at on this, and
I'm I've written about this recently. Ohio State should not
be exempt of you know, from noon games other than
the Michigan game. And we'll talk a little bit about
the legislative attempt here in a minute. I wrote that,
you know, all Big ten schools should take their turns
with the noon games. Obviously, I wouldn't outlaw noon games.

(04:40):
I don't think there's a need for that for the
state universities in Ohio whatever. I also think that it's
a great compliment of if Fox wants the game at noon,
because it means they know you are the draw, you
are the you know, there may be three equal games,
and they pick Ohio State because they know more eyeballs
will be on on that game, or Ohio State may

(05:03):
play more marquee games. And again, that's what Fox wants
for its inventory. But there has to be some more
balance than what we've seen they can't. I think maybe
it's okay for the Big Ten to step in and say, hey,
I know we sign this, but let's maybe alter this
agreement and have an addendum to this agreement where you're
not picking the same team over and over and over weekly.

(05:28):
Maybe maybe no more than two consecutive or something to
that nature. There's I think there's a way to work
this out and make it equitable for everybody. But noon
games aren't going to go away. They shouldn't go away.
They should just be not every single week, because it
really does prevent schools that are on Like if you
have six noon games in a row, that's six weeks

(05:51):
in a row that you can't have some high school
prospect from California play their Friday night game and then
get to the state in time the next day to
be that on that recruiting trip.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I think if anything, it certainly does hamper the recruiting
efforts for out of state players. And the reality is
that when it comes to the coaches, they I mean
they will certainly they will not you know, be critical
of Fox, But the reality is the coaches and the

(06:26):
players actually enjoy the Neon kickoff simply because of the fact.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
That, all right, they get.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
The players up and going and the game is done,
and because they've talked about when they have a night
game about how it's kind of challenging about kind of
keeping you know, keeping focus and not getting too tightly
wound before the game and all those kind.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Of psychological things.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
So I certainly think that there is some room for discussion.
And as I said a few moments ago, I think
the fact that the Big Ten has been leaning heavily
upon Ohio State there should be some kind of a
reward for a team that bears more of the burden.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Like you said, I think it's a compliment to Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Fox knows they're going to have the eyeballs of not
just Ohio State fans, but considerable portion of the college
football fan viewing audience wanting to see how Ohio State
does in their big noon games.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
But I don't think it should Ohio State should should
bear that burden almost exclusively.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Right. And then the other part of that is why
is Fox doing this well? Because Fox is trying to
own that time slot. They are They're trying to make
this their brand where they have the best game on
at noon that's available across the country every week. So
they're picking of their new big noon kickoff game is
being picked from from the inventory that's available, and they're

(07:54):
always going to try to pick their best matchup to
get the most eyeballs because they want to own that slot.
And make that sort of their differentiator from ESPN and
other networks. Precisely getting back to the Texas thing probably
being a big noon kickoff, I'm really glad Texas said no.

(08:16):
I would not have wanted. Granted you won a night
game against Texas, that would be fantastic atmosphere. But I
just don't think that college football should be played on Sundays.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
I'm not going to disagree with you. I know that
there is another game on Sunday night. The Notre Dame
will be at Miami on I believe it would be
on ABC.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I know it's a night game. What's that way? It's
either ABC or ESPN, doesn't really matter. But I agree
with you. I think that it's.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
More a matter of being Labor Day weekend the official kickoff,
because Week zero takes place on August twenty third, and
there are some games there that will be for example,
like the over in Ireland and all those kind of things.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
But I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I think college football being played on a Saturday, that's
the way it's meant.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
To be traditional, very traditional.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
You got it?

Speaker 1 (09:13):
All right, let's talk about this. I'm assuming you're going
to feel a way I do ridiculous legislative effort to
ban noon games other than the carve out for the
Michigan game. What do we doing as a society when
our legislators are spending their time and effort on this
after being elected by the voters to do important things

(09:35):
and make sure that people have education and healthcare and
things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I couldn't agree more. I think it's political grandstanding. I
think it's all performative. And as I said earlier, the
thing that I keep coming back to, and I want
to reemphasize the fact that I'm not here to try
to persuade somebody beat for the big noon CA pickoffs
or against the big new kickoffs, right, but that's a

(10:03):
personal prerogative. I am simply going to reiterate the fact
that Ohio State, as well as the other Big Ten
member institutions all willingly signed that agreement with Fox and
kind of just a little reminder if people do did
forget Fox owns a significant portion of the Big Ten network.

(10:25):
They they were heavily involved in the negotiation process for
the last contract that was signed prior to the twenty
twenty three season. It's not like kind of a little
reminder that Fox actually sat in during the various networks
that were proposing what they what they had to offer

(10:46):
the big ten member institution. So Fox always knew, for example,
what I'm just going to throw this out there, like
CBS or NBC, what they were offering.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
So Fox they have it. They have it built in
to the the network draft that we that you and
I and I've I've always.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Said, you know when this came out, that I would
love to I would love to have that televised to
see how the networks select the games.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
But the point I'm trying to.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Make is that Fox has the first three choices every
year for the length of this contract as to which
weekend they don't choose the game they choose the weekend,
but which weekends they get to pick. So so far
as we know, because based on the graphics, even though
they didn't announce like the kickoff times, Fox has Texas

(11:34):
at Ohio State, Fox has Ohio State at Michigan.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
We don't know what the third pick is from Fox.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
There's there's speculation that maybe they traded it because that's
what they did last year to NBC, which is how
the Ohio State at Oregon game wound up on NBC.
My point is is that for this guy, the way
that I refer to it as political grand standing, all right,
you get people all riled up and excited, but it's
going to go nowhere. And it just to your point, Michael,

(12:01):
I think it looks foolish because the contract was happily
and willingly signed. It's not going to go anywhere, and
there are significantly more important things for legislators to be
concerned about.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Absolutely, I think it's malpractice to even unless there's a
systemic issue that's affecting the population. With college football, there's
no reason that legislators need to be involved in it,
and no legislation for planting flags on someone else's field.
If Ohio State wants to stop it, first of all,

(12:35):
win the game, then you don't have anybody trying to
plan a flag. Second of all, send the other the
other university a bill for the damage they've done to
your synthetic turf.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Or how about proposing a bill to ban Ohio State
games from being on peacock same kind of mindset.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, I mean that was foolish.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
It didn't go anywhere, because it comes back to you
can be unhappy.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I'm not saying that you have to be happy.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
But let's let's why don't we focus on the things
that are within our control and not focus on you know,
just all right, I want to I want to bitch
and moan and whine and cry about things that are
beyond my control.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, I think it's just a ridiculous thing to be
concerned about. I get the fatigue of having new noon Noon,
Noon Noon. And even though I don't particularly love the
atmosphere of a lot of the noon games because you know,
some of these games are very flat because of the
they're lopsided. Uh, they're just the nature of it. It's

(13:39):
it's high state. Some of these are against very inferior
teams that they're playing and they you know, it's a
forty point game at halftime, that kind of thing. It's
just kind of dead. They do work for my schedule
very well, So I probably have a little bit different
opinion than other people on it because I have very
busy falls and I have commitments on Saturday nights a

(14:01):
lot of time. But that's again, recognize a me thing
and not you know, a college football or an Ohio
State thing.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Certainly, and like I said, I I really don't get
worked up one way or the other in terms of
if it's at noon or at another time. I freely
admit when it comes to the Ohio State kickoff times,
I always enjoy knowing ahead of time to kind of
build activities around if there are other things or you know,

(14:34):
getting an idea in terms of oh, okay, well I'm
going to be able to watch this game that's at
three point thirty, or this is.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
The night game or something like that.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
But like I said a moment ago, I don't get
myself worked up too strongly one way or another if
it's at noon or at a different time, because I
just want to see the game. I really when it
comes to what platform and what time, I really don't
put too much energy into it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
Same I think I think we've covered this topic extensively
and probably don't need to talk about it anymore. But
plenty more for us to talk about, So why don't
we get to those other offseason topics right after this chip?

(15:24):
We are back and one of the more interesting notes
of the month that was since our last show is
that Ohio State has added a fourth signal caller to
the quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Room, and this guy I don't care if he ever
plays a snap for Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
He makes the he makes the all Name team.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Fantastic name that that name is is going to.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
It's It's one of these things where I think it's
just kind of destined to go down in Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Lore absolutely, and that name chip.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Is Eli brick Handler.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Brick Handler. I wonder what his ancestors did for a
living exactly.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Well, getting in all serious is getting to the heart
of the matter, and that is Eli brick Handler.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Like you said, a fourth quarterback.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Ryan Day has made no secret of wanting to have
at least four scholarship quarterbacks in the room. And without
having seen any of Eli brick Handler's he played in
an FCS school, so that's kind of difficult to ascertain
realize like his stats and things like that. I believe

(16:42):
he played at Houston Christian at his previous school. I'm
presuming that Eli brick Handler's primary role and obligation to
Ohio State is going to be that of the scout team,
helping run the opposition plays. It's not to suggest that
that Eli Brickhandler will never get a snap in Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Or any games.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
I believe he has a couple of years of eligibility,
but I think that it's primarily to fulfill what Ryan
Day says is having four scholarship players on last year
was kind of an anomaly having five, but with the
fact that now by a state being down to three
scholarship quarterbacks, they wanted to augment that significant that portion

(17:30):
of the roster.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
They did so.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
So it'll be interesting to see what role he plays.
What my suspicion is he'll be the Scott team quarterback
for this coming year.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, this's a kid who's looking to maybe learn some
things from Ryan Day and gain some experience that way
and maybe develop a little more so that they can
perhaps continue their career after college. It's not going to
be easy for somebody coming out of a small school,
but it does happen sometimes, and you never know what

(17:58):
can happen. You know, you go to Ohio State, you
make sure you're ready. If there are injuries ahead of you,
maybe you do get on the field, and I do
think that we might see him, you know, for the
final drive of some of those blowout games.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Certainly, I mean the ideal.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
This is just before the news of Eli brick Handler
joining the roster. My ideal scenario is, and I realized
that the presumption is that Julian Saying will emerge as
the starter. But Ryan Day, since the last time that
you and I spoke, last time we recorded, Ryan Day
made it abundantly clear in a meeting with the media,

(18:34):
like hey, going into the spring game, he was under
the belief that Lincoln Keenholtz was ahead, So that the
competition is ongoing. So let's just for the sake of argument,
let's just say that Julian's Saying since, based on his
performance in the spring game, is named the starter sometime
during the fall camp in August. Lincoln Keenholts is the

(18:55):
top backup. Kavian Saint Clair is the third string. My
ideal if I had the opportunity to kind of work
my magic on Ryan Day and Billy Fessler, is this
is what I would want in the perceived blowout games,
is that when you have it the game well in hand,

(19:17):
that Julian Saying gets to sit down, and you give
Lincoln Keemholtz a significant portion of let's say midway through
the second, midway through the third, and then Tavian Saint Clair.
You want to allow for at least four games before
using up that year of eligibility. Tavian Saint Clair gets

(19:37):
that third quarter through the fourth quarter, so you know,
dividing up among three scholarship quarterbacks, I would say would
be my ideal. Now that you said Eli brick Handler
being in there, Yeah, you want to reward him for
his efforts and his contribution. So I'm not sure how
this would work, but I'm sure those conversations have been

(19:59):
held between the coaching staff and Eli brick Handler.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, and it would be really nice to, like you said,
reward him for the preparation that the team does and
all the hard work he has to put in to
give him a drive, even if he's just handing the
ball off and maybe throwing on third and third down
to try to move the chains to keep the ball
and run.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
The clock precisely. I mean, we we always talk about
it year after year. Is wanting the backup quarterbacks to
be able to actually run the offense, not just hand
the ball off like you said, I'm not suggesting throwing
bombs away, but there's a significant difference between a quarterback
coming in and throwing a pass to It doesn't matter

(20:42):
who the backup wide receiver is or the backup tight end,
and if that individual is able to break numerous tackles
and go for a long gain and possibly score a touchdown,
I have nothing against it. There's a big difference between
sending a wide receiver deep and bombing for the end
zone when you're up significantly.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I just to me, I think.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
When you when you have a backup player, come in,
let them run the offense within certain confines and get
them some some valuable game experience.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, unfortunately, I mean I agree with pretty much in
principle with everything you said. I don't think we're going
to see if Saying is the starter. I don't think
we're going to see him come off the field as
early as you would like to get keenholes more snaps,
because Saying will be a first year starter, and I
don't think that Ryan Day will will do that based
on his history. I think he'll want him to get

(21:35):
as much experience as he can so that he's ready
and have seen everything for the for the playoff or whatever.
I don't necessarily agree with that. I think if the
kid goes out has two two and a half excellent quarters,
it's okay to sit him down and let him watch
someone else and he'll still develop that way.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Certainly, And I guess the I don't want to call
it the ghosts of twenty fourteen, but the memory of
twenty fourteen still loom large in my memory. And it
was right only about ten days before the season began

(22:16):
when Braxon Miller went down with an injury and we
were talking about, you know, an unproven player in JT. Barrett,
and he came in and played well. And there were
times during that season where I kept thinking, all right,
here is where Cardaile Jones.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
You need to put him into the game.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
And didn't happen until that faithful Michigan game, and all
of a sudden, you're talking about a guy that in
Urban Meyer he tells a story about Okay, we have
this guy and he's not really prepared, and I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Coach, you're the one who's responsible for that.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
You need to That's where it's like, this is when
we talk about teachable moments, that's not just for the players,
it's for the coaches as well. So hopefully, Ryan Day,
I'm not disagreeing with you. I think that there's certainly
going to be every effort to try to accelerate the
learning curve for I'm going to say again Julian saying
at the at the starting position, but there always has

(23:11):
to be in the back of your mind. All right, Well,
what if something happens and I would rather Lincoln Keyenholts
get valuable game experience against I'm just going to say
it Grambling, Oh you you know some of the other
Big ten teams, if the game is well established, get
Lincoln Kingholds, because it's not as on Lincoln Kingholds has

(23:33):
a tremendous reservoir of experience himselves. He played sparingly and
was thrust into action. I will just say that it's
not wasn't his fault. It was nobody's fault that all
of a sudden, all right, her starter went down, kid,
you're in and he was a true freshman and behind

(23:54):
a makeshift off the offensive line, did the best he
could in that dreadful Missouri loss a couple of years ago.
I'm just saying that I think it behooves the coaching
staff to acknowledge the fact everybody is pretty much very
green in inexperience. So it's everyone's collected best interest to
get as much as many opportunities as possible.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, And I thought that's where you're going to go
earlier with that with the with the Missouri game, because Keenholds,
had he been given more snaps, might not have looked
so inept in that game, and they might not have
been so terrified of letting him do things in that
in that game that you know they did. They really,
I felt, put training wheels on him in that game,
and they wouldn't have to do that if they'd have

(24:37):
given him more third and fourth quarter snaps and blowout games.
The other thing it does for you to to take
Saying off the field, even though you want him to
get reps and you want him to get game experience,
take him off the field protects him from injury, certainly.

Speaker 3 (24:52):
And one of the things that Ryan day it seemed
as though that he was he was, I don't want
to say relying, but maybe consulting and discussing with Jim
Trussell last year as kind of as an advisor.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Obviously the fact.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That he has a a significant relationship with urban Meyer
based on the fact that urban Meyer was who brought
him to Columbus. But one of the things that Jim
Trussell used to do that I'm sure that it frustrated
fans or confused fans, but I in hindsight, really respected
was that Jim Trussell would put the backup quarterback in

(25:31):
not every game, but quite commonly in games when it
was still in doubt. And his rationale there was I
want them to know what that feels like when the
pressure is on and for them to be able to
respond when or if it's necessary. And I think it
just paid off because that was the kind of thing

(25:51):
where I realized, going back twenty some years ago, Craig Crenzel,
when he eventually did have to go into a pressure
pack situation, it was not completely foreign for him.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, I mean all of that is important, you know,
getting them used to the college football experience and all
of that. So we'll see what happens with this quarterback battle.
I was pretty surprised to hear Ryan Day say that
about Keen Holes, just based on how the two players
played in the spring game. I understand why they were
close and why there was a battle still ongoing, but

(26:25):
I mean saying was really good in that game and
he really looks the part.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
I think maybe it might have been a matter of
jitters who knows. I mean Lincoln Keenholts by all accounts
for the thing that we weren't able to view or
attend the student appreciation practice, Lincoln Keenholts out performed Julian
Saying there, so it might have just been the fact that,

(26:53):
all right, there were a lot more eyes on him.
I didn't think Lincoln Keenholts played badly. I just thought
that Julian Saying played better, and by by the end
of the game that Lincoln Keenholtz was I think he was.
He was playing fairly well. And as far as Tavian
Saint Clair it I'm glad that now Tavian Saint Clair.

(27:16):
Not to say that, Okay, you can just go over
there and sit down and not compete, but I think
the realistic, realistic expectation for Tavian Saint Clair is you
have a bright future. Here's an opportunity for you to
learn from watching. Obviously, participate in and practices fully, but
don't try to come in with the with the same

(27:39):
kind of mindset that you're going to be the starter.
Because everybody seems to forget Tavian Saint Clair came from
a relatively small division Ohio program.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
He was successful at he was good at it, but
the level.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Of competition that he faced in comparison to a Julian
Saying at the high school level markedly different. So making
the lead from Bell Fountain High School up to Ohio
State was quite substantial, and would I would make the
argument that Lincoln Keenholts somewhat behind because not only coming
from South Dakota, he was also a summer in Rollie

(28:18):
when he when he came in, so he was already
behind the fact that he was a multi sport athlete
in high school. I think it was a good thing,
but he was behind. So that's why it kind of
looked even it looked worse than it really was. When
in that Cotton Bowl performance, you know, he was only
on campus for not even a full six months, and

(28:39):
all of a sudden playing in a bowl game. I
think he's finally starting to kind of feel comfortable within
the confines of the offense. So I think Ryan Day
declaring that all right, the competition is is accurately between
Saying and Keenholts. I think just it presents itself well
for the rest of the team.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, a couple things there. Saint Clair obviously needs to
he needs to get himself ready and he needs to
make sure he's ready because again, injuries happened in the sport,
so be as ready as you can. I did like
the way he played for the most part. He did
make some mistakes that gamate. You're going to make mistakes
in that game. Getting back to the jitters situation, that's

(29:21):
something that can separate two very close quarterbacks, is if
you're going to be prone to jitters, say and didn't
seem to have that same issue. So maybe it's a
good thing that Julian's saying, at least for his future,
maybe it's a good thing that he didn't show those
same kind of jitters. If that's what it was with
Keenholts to start the game, it.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Could have been. It very well could have been.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
And again that's just my my speculation is nothing that
anyone has said. It might have been the fact that
that that Lincoln Keenolts might have been a little bit
more amped up, say.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, a little overhyped to you know, little a little excited,
need to bring the adrenaline down a little bit. It
does happened to well everybody basically, but you know, there
there's there. There's not going to be a game that
he plays in this year. If he starts that the
pressure won't be higher than once in the spring game.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Precisely.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I mean, it's going to be no matter what against
against Texas, and I know that we talked about in
the previous segment, no matter what time that game is,
there's going to be a national audience. It's going to
be a packed house at Ohio Stadium, So it's going
to be incumbent upon whoever the starting quarterback is High
State that they, like you said, kind of try to

(30:38):
camp down on the adrenaline, try to stay calm and collected,
because no matter what High State, they're going into that
with inexperience at the quarterback position.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, all right, we will see how that shakes out
this fall. But we I think are on the same
page as we both kind of expect this to be
Sayan's job on opening day, but it also may be
so close that there are some drives for the other quarterback.

(31:10):
We've seen this before, even in the Ryan dayer.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Certainly it's entirely possible, and it's not as though just
to kind of flip it over a little bit.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
It's not as though Texas.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Even though arch Manning is going to be the starting
quarterback for Texas, it's not as though arch Manning has
a tremendous amount of experience either. So I think it
kind of bears watching how both teams coaching staff respectively
handle the quarterback position.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah, all right, why don't we, for our last order
of business here Chip talk about the new seating in
the college football playoffs.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
So it's still being hammered out for the twenty twenty
six season. There are negotiations are ongoing. There are reports
that the Big Ten and SEC are trying to have
it where each conference will get four bids for the playoff,

(32:14):
and that's being hotly contested and debated by the other conferences,
so that we have no idea how that's going to
turn out. But what we do know is that, unlike
last year for the twelve team playoff, and this is
the final year of the twelve team playoff, this coming season,
instead of having the seating based on conference champions it's

(32:40):
going to be straight seating one through twelve. So, in
other words, Ohio State, had this been in existence, there
have been different graphics and means about it.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
Had it been in existence this past year, Ohio States
still would have had.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
A home game in the opening round, but instead of
playing against Tennessee, they would have been hosting Arizona State,
which I believe was the twelfth seed.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
The High State was the fifth seed. That's how that
would have worked this past season.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, the run to the title would have been a
little bit different.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Certainly, and the team that.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Everyone seems to kind of be feeling sorry for all
it should have been like this is that this this
past season was Oregon because Oregon had to face a
High State in the in round two. I'm not here
to say all, you know, poor Oregon or who cares?
I just I think if anything, it just it just
makes sense. I mean, it has nothing to do without

(33:41):
any specific school or university. I think it should have.
This is how it should have been from the from
the beginning. If there is, if there is a beneficiary
going forward. And again this is purely hypothetical.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Notre Dame, Notre Dame, you got it. You took the
words right out of my mouth because.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
Because they're not in the conference, but now they'll be
able to be a host city or a host tea.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Well they always were.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
They always were, but they might get the advantage of
if they're in the top four, right in the advantage
of the bye.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, so we'll see how it all shakes out. I mean,
that's why they play the games, right, you know. It's
like to you know, kind of what I said earlier about,
you know, wasted energy. I think until that's part, you know,
I'm excited about the change.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I think it's a good idea. That's probably what they
should have done from the onset. You know.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Me.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
We're at the end of May.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
So that means we're getting closer and closer to college
football preview magazines, and I'm not denying that I'm going
to purchase one and look at it. But I stand
by what I have said always is that the preseason
rankings are meaningless in the sense that until you see
that the team's actually playing on the field against live competition,

(34:56):
it's all speculation. The most recent example I can give
you you or our listeners that when you think about it,
last year, Florida State was considered one of the top
teams in the country, and then they went out and
had a dreadful twenty twenty four season. And that's not
meant to say that Florida State is a bad program.
It's just that until they line up and you see

(35:17):
how they perform against the opposition, it's it really is
just anyone's guess is that what teams are actually going
to wind up being considered among the nation's best.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Absolutely, And I know you're very excited to hear what's
coming and what's going to happen with the magazine, and
I will if you didn't see it. Phil Steele tweeted
the other day a sign from a dry erase board
fourteen days till the magazine goes to press.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Chip, I'm not I have to confess I'm not much
of a Phil Steel guy. I know that a lot
of other people are, and again each their own. I
respect the work that Phil Steel puts into publication. I
mean it's very exhausted and thorough. I just think, you know,
sometimes like some of the some of the information, some

(36:06):
of the very very very small print when you start
talking about how this team performed back in I'm just
picking out a random number, like twenty fourteen when we're talking.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
About the twenty five season. I think it's kind of
it doesn't have any bearing anymore.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
So I'm not much of a Phil Steel guy, but
I will be purchasing a college football magazine, gotcha?

Speaker 1 (36:27):
All right? Well, you know you got to stay you
got to stay true to your athlon brand, right.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
I I prefer Athlon.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
I'll tell you what, I really I wish it was
available on newsstandsas I really like the Pick six previous.
I like the job that they do in terms of
their analysis. It's not the entire country that that would be.
I don't want to say a slam or a slight,
but it's just they focus in on the major programs

(36:56):
and not so much every program like you said, like
we were talking about Phil Steele. Yeah, I'm more of
an athlon sports guy. I know that there are some
people that get excid about Lindy's and things like that.
So to each to each their own, but yeah, you're right,
I mean it. You know when when it gets to
be June, because that's when they should start being on
the news stands where you wherever you may purchase them.

(37:19):
I'll pick one up and give it my thought as
to how they think Ohio State as well as other
Big Ten teams will do.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah. I used to buy them all because they usually
had an Ohio State player on the cover regionally, and
I would just tack those up in my bedroom wall,
you know, because I was an Ohio kid.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I get it. I get it.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Well. If anything, we were talking about Ohio State the
quarterback position, since we really don't know who is going
to be the quarterback, I'm speculating that it's going to
be Jeremiah Smith is going to be the face of
Ohio State football. Wouldn't surprise me though, if Caleb Downs

(38:01):
was also.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Yeah, there'll be there'll be a lot of dual pictures
of those two on magazines. It'll be Smith, maybe a
little more prominently, but Downs will be on there certainly.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
And like you said, you know with not only the
college football preview magazines, it should be May twenty ninth
is if not necessarily like first thing in the morning,
but like by I know that Matt Sarzeniac posted And
if you don't follow Matt Sarziniac on Twitter, you really

(38:35):
should because he pretty much is the one that kind
of was the voice of reason if there was with
all the people that were upset about Fox and kind
of hopeless hopelessly thinking like okay, well they didn't announce
a kickoff. That means that maybe Fox is going to
have it at noon, And he quickly tweeted out, by
the way, Fox has a Major League Baseball contract, which

(38:58):
is that's going to.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Be at night. So he immediately kind of.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Was the voice of reason, as I refer to him anyway,
that he had Matts Sarzeniac had had tweeted out about
May twenty ninth being the day that should be the
first three weeks of the season, so we'll have a
better understanding by the next time that you and I
record a podcast.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, Chip, anything else on your mind for this May
episode before we get out of here. I do have
one other thing that I want to bring up, but
I want to check in with you first.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Nothing on my mind.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Like I said, the biggest news was probably affecting the
college the upcoming college football season was the idea of
going to straight seating. But like I said, the news
of the three weeks excuse the first three weeks of
the college football season, we should know that by the
end of this week. I'm speaking to you from Ohio,
where it even though we are Memorial Day weekend, it

(39:50):
certainly is more like fall weather it's in the fifties
and sixties, so hopefully the weather will cooperate by the
next time we get together.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah all right, well Chip, before we put the finishing
touches on this episode for May, I just want to
say the Silver Bullets Podcast family, which is you and me,
we want to extend our best wishes, our thoughts and prayers,
all of that to former Ohio state wide receiver Julian Fleming,

(40:21):
who was injured Friday an ATV crash and apparently lost
his girlfriend in that crash.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
I was not aware of the fact that he had
lost his girlfriend. I did happen to see earlier this
morning that he was involved in a crash. I didn't
have an opportunity to read about the details. So you
were at church, man, I was, I was, thank you,
thank you for pointing that out that I happened to
see that and didn't have an opportunity to click on

(40:50):
the link. But my sincere condolences to Julian Fleming his
loved ones, especially his girlfriend's family and friends, because what
a what a tragic thing to occur memorially weekend.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Absolutely, and you know, we hope that he's able to recover. Obviously,
a tragedy. Alyssa Boyd was his girlfriend. And I want
to just point out to our listeners that safety is important.
And they apparently were not wearing safety equipment, and uh

(41:30):
they collided with a deer that jumped onto the road.
So that's what happened according to the initial initial reports.
We'd encourage everybody to be as safe as they can. Uh,
you know, whatever activity you're doing, and uh, and take
take safety seriously because even especially for those that are young,

(41:52):
you may not feel that it's necessary. You may not
feel that it's you know, you might feel that it
like lessens the experience whatever. Uh, there's a reason that
those that safety equipment exists, and you would obviously not
want something tragic to happen when you're out having a
good time. So you know, please remember to be safe.
And again our sincere condolences and best wishes for Julian Fleming.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I think you summarize it perfectly, all.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Right, Chip, We have got a few weeks before we'll
reconvene again for the month of June. Maybe we'll have
another quiet month, maybe we won't, but we'll be back
next month to talk about all things Ohio State football
and the off season, and again we're we're getting closer
and closer. I know there we are. I think we're

(42:42):
we're now within one hundred days of week zero.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
You got it, Like you said, we are within one
hundred days, and I'm just getting more and more anxious
for the fact.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Like you said, you know, like in June.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
For speaking on the ISA State side of things, June
and July are kind of the Ohio Football Ohio State
football recruiting weekends, the summer camps that'll be I don't
want to say the only news I'm presuming that that
would be with the coaching staff would want it to be,
is like that's the only thing is like, okay, if

(43:20):
we have people visiting and people possibly giving their verbal commitments, that's.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I'm sure the with the coaches would prefer.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
But once you get into July, then you start thinking about, Okay,
now we've got big ten media days at the end
of July and then next thing, you know, August. That
means that camp is in sessions. So we're getting closer
and closer.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yes, and you and I are not big recruiting followers,
so we'll do our best. If there's not much news,
we can always, of course, try to speculate about the
the depth chart and things of that nature and what
you know, maybe some breakout players. So we'll we'll have
some entertaining stuff for you next month.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
I'm sure we'll buy something.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
All right, Chip, remind everyone that listens to this show
where they can find you and your work on the internet.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I can be found on Twitter at Chipminik. Last name
is spelled m I n nic H. And besides this podcast,
I am a contributor to Buckeye Huddle as well as
another website, Saturday Glory, which is kind of more along
the lines of looking at the Big Ten overall. So
I sometimes write for Buckeye Huddle from an Ohio state

(44:28):
point of view and then for Saturday Glory Big Ten
point of view.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
So you can find me there all right.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
I am at Mike thirty six fan on Twitter or
blue Sky. You can also follow the Silver Bullets podcast
on Twitter at silver Bullets Pod without the letter E
in Silver silv R Bullets Pod. You can also email
us if you have a question or comment about the show.
We'd love to hear from you. You can write to

(44:56):
us at Silver Bullets Pod at gmail dot and you
can use all the normal lettering for that. And yeah,
just make sure you're downloading this show every week and
or you know every episode and and you know rate
and review us if you have an opportunity. As far
as my work online, you can find my column on

(45:18):
Landgrant holy land dot com and I generally drop my
stories on Mondays. And we are in our theme weeks now,
so every week there'll be a theme that we are
we're promoting and they'll like we've done Buckeye heroes and
things of that nature. So as the off season goes on,

(45:40):
we will write about some interesting topics every week and
you can find all my stuff over there, so we'd
love to hear from you over there as well. And
with that chip, I think that just about does it.
So until next month, we will sign off the way
we usually do by saying go box, Go Box,
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