Northwestern Rewind and Indiana Preview

[Note: My apologies for the audio, as Chip sounded great and I did not. Unbeknownst to me, everything was running through my external laptop microphone, so I come off a bit echoey.]

Ohio State didn’t come out of the gates convincing against the Northwestern Wildcats at Wrigley Field, but the Buckeyes eventually settled in and took care of business in the final road game of the regular season. The Buckeyes ultimately won comfortably but it took a couple of quarters and a huge Northwestern mistake to get things moving in the right direction. 

We break down the key plays and moments in the game, check our picks to click, and look back at our score predictions to see how we well we foretold the matchup in the Windy City. 

After our Northwestern rewind, we looked at the other matchups around the Big Ten this weekend, including a close one at Camp Randall that had the Oregon Ducks on upset alert for much of the afternoon. We also tell you which teams have arrived at bowl eligibility and discuss what USC needs to do to be more competitive in the conference.

Finally, we looked ahead to a huge game against Indiana, which is not something we expected when the season started. The Hoosiers have been impressive, regardless of which teams were on their schedule. The Buckeyes are sure to have their hands full on Saturday in the Shoe. We preview the game, select the players we think will click for Ohio State, and make our score predictions.

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As always, thanks for listening!

0:52 - The Buckeyes struggled at times in the early going but took care of business against the Wildcats. Our recap and analysis.

18:05 - A look around the Big Ten, to see how everyone else made out.

42:25 - The Buckeyes host the Indiana Hoosiers in a game much bigger than we would have predicted at the start of the season. We preview it.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, everybody, before we get started, just want to apologize
for the audio quality. My voice is not up to
its normal standards because I didn't realize nothing was coming
through my microphone. Everything was going through my laptops built
in mic. I don't wear headphones during the recording, so
I didn't notice it, and it was not pointed out
to me that I sounded any different. So I apologize

(00:20):
for this week. We'll get it fixed for next week,
and in the meantime, hopefully you will still enjoy this
show even though I don't sound as good. Let's get
on with the show. Logain everybody, It's time once again

(00:53):
for the Silver Bullets podcast. I'm Michael Citrow nine, Chip
Mine Chip. This game te Ohio State beating at Northwestern
thirty one to seven, went about like we thought it would,
a little bit of an annoying, difficult start to it,
but then the buck Eyes got rolling and they took

(01:13):
care of business pretty easily.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
I agree with that. I think it was almost kind
of almost different venue and some more annoyance, as you
phrased it, but it was almost almost an exact carbon
copy of Ohio State what they did the previous week
against Purdue I mean, they took care of business. And
fortunately now we're onto the last two games of the

(01:39):
regular season and we'll see if Ohio State has an
opportunity to go to Indianapolis to play for the Big
Ten championship.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, the defense to me looked like it just thought
it would show up and dominate. It didn't look like
And we talked about Northwestern's national ranking in all of
the differ offensive categories last week at great length, and
they were among the worst in the nation in all
facets of offense. And we didn't even talk about their

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third down efficiency, which was I think one twenty eighth
in the country. But they gave Ohio State fits on
offense early in this game, and they drove down the field.
On the first drive, Ohio State missed a sack, didn't
cover receivers well. Finally, the only reason that Northwestern is

(02:33):
score on his first possession because Jack Sawyer knocked the
ball away in the red zone and Davison Nigmunosen recovered it.
But on the a couple drives later, Purdue, I'm sorry
Northwestern was in the end zone, making it seven to
nothing and again converting third downs, even long third downs,
and it just seemed like the defense was sleepwalking a

(02:55):
little bit to start this game.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I would agree with that. And the nice thing is
is that it doesn't give a lot of comfort. It
is frustrating, but the nice thing about it is that
the Ohio State defensive coaching staff make the adjustments and
the next thing, you know, it's like Ohio State, I mean,
they figured out what Northwestern was doing and we're pretty
much successful after that initial success.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, so there was no score after the first quarter
as the teams both were having double digit play drives
that were eating up a lot of clock. Ohio State's
first drive stalled after you know, a big fourth down conversion.
Chip Kelly decides he's going to call a reverse pass
with a mecha Buca that ends up in a five

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yard loss and then that put the buck guys behind
the chain. They end up having to punt the ball.
And then Northwestern got on the ball, got on the
board first with a Jack Lausch touchdown run up the
middle to make it seven nothing in the second quarter.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
At one point Northwest could say that they were leading
and that was all the points that Northwestern would have.
It was pretty much after that it started just started
to go in Ohio State's direction.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, the Buck guys ended up coming back down and
tying the game at seven to seven on a quin
Shawn Judkins one yard touchdown run, and then it was
like Northwestern remembered it was Northwestern as a snap sailed
over the head of the punter on their next drive
and Kayden Curry, I don't know how he missed the tackle,

(04:35):
but he did. He missed the tackle on the punter
who was then able to punt the ball but got
it blocked. And luckily for Ohio State, there was a
lot of places that could have gone that would not
have been advantageous. It went out of bounds at the
one and Quinshawn Judkins and ran it in from there
to made it fourteen, made it fourteen to seven at
that point. Ohio State never looked back from there. But

(04:57):
that was kind of the punt play was kind of
what seemed to wake Ohio State up.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
That's fair. Yeah, I was surprised that it didn't go
worse for Northwestern at that moment. As I was watching it,
I am surprised that it didn't wind up being a
safety because it certainly looked like that was how it
was going to appear, but I'm glad that Ohio State
was able to capitalize absolutely.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
So from there, Ohio State tacked on a late touchdown
before the end of the half to take a twenty
one to seven lead on a twenty five yard touchdown
pass to Carnell Tate, who had a big game. And
then it came out in the third quarter and it
got the double down, got the final touchdown to end
the half, then got the touchdown coming out of the halftime,

(05:46):
so they got to got to do the back to back.
So that's why you defer when you win the toss.
And again it was Carneal Tate, this time eight yard
touchdown passed from Will Howard, and the Buckeyes led twenty
eight to seven. They tacked on field Will before the
end of the third quarter, and the fourth quarter was
just kind of a bunch of backups plan and nobody
did a whole lot of anything.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, I mean, I'm extremely happy for Carnel Tate because
considering this was, you know, let's just say it, you know,
like a kind of homecoming, you know, for the fact
that he played at IMG Academy in high school. But
Chicago's his hometown, so he had a really good game.
I can't remember the precise number. I know he was
in the twenties, the number of tickets that he procured

(06:31):
for this, so I'm happy he had a really good game.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
All right. So looking at our predictions, chip, you had
thirty five seven. I had thirty eight six. It was
thirty one seven, so you were very very close, only
four points off, and you take the honors this week.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
And then on our picks to Click, well we all
the touchdowns were from our picks to click as Judkins
and Carnel Tate did all of the heavy lifting. Quinch
On Judkins fifteen carries for seventy six yards two touchdowns,
averaged five point one yards per carry, and Carnell Tate
four catches on six targets fifty two yards, two touchdowns.

(07:12):
Nice day for him. Both of his touchdowns were very
well taken. So both of our offensive picks to click
did so well.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Like I said a moment ago, I'm happy that Carnell
Tate had a big game for the hometown crowd, and obviously,
like Quinchawn Judkins, like you had predicted last week, kind
of a bounce back game. So I'm happy that both
of us had for our selections that they both played well.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, I still think there were some yards there that
Judkins left on the field. There were a couple of
holes that he didn't see, but kind of hard to
argue with a five point average and a couple of touchdowns.
Treyion Anderson also a nice day eleven carries, seventy four yards,
no touchdowns, but he did average six point seven yards

(07:59):
per care And also in the passing game, quinch On
Judkins how to catch for eight yards and Travon Anderson
at two catches for fourteen yards. So the running backs
got it done. Will Howard was fifteen to twenty four
no interceptions this week, two touchdowns, two hundred and forty
seven yards, was not sacked a Mecca Aguka was sacked.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Like you said, that was kind of an unfortunate series
of events, you know, in terms of Chip Kelly's play call,
I'm sure that when they when they go back and
they're watching the film, they'll be like, Okay, that obviously
that play was called at the probably the worst possible time.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah. Yeah, And maybe they're just trying to show something
there to the two teams coming up, but it's you know,
we talked about Northwestern's defense, that's what kind of hang
their hats on their scrappy defense, letting them hang around
and you can't get behind the chains against you know,
a team with a decent team and they have one,
so that really unnecessary and it just kind of took

(09:06):
away all the steam from their sales after picking up
a fourth down like that. So maybe not the best
time to break that out, but so it's in the playbook.
You know, it's hard to fault them for trying it.
But on the other side of the ball, I should
have mentioned Jeremiah Smith had four catches for one hundred yards,
did not have a touchdown, and me book a quiet day,

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two catches twenty five yards and then you know a
bunch of guys spread it out with one catch each.
And on the other side of the ball there running
back camp Orter ten carries only thirty seven yards, and
that included a twelve of the thirty seven on one

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yard one carry just before Lausch's touchdown run. Jack Lush
was the offense for Northwestern. He had fourteen carries, ended
up only getting eight yards because of lost thirty six
lost yards on sacks, but he ended up gaining forty
four yards on his running play and including the touchdown,
which was a nine yard run. And Jack Lausch was

(10:10):
twenty one of thirty five no picks but also didn't
throw a touchdown, was sacked four times. We talked about
him as well. He came into this game about a
fifty four passer and easily surpassed that against Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, I mean, if anything, you know, it was like
I said, from the from the initial part of the
of the game, Northwestern. Maybe they did some things that
OAATE wasn't expecting, like you said, maybe the Ohio State
defense was being kind of lethargic and lacks a day's agal.
Maybe it was a combination of both. But yeah, I
mean it just Northwestern. They just didn't have anything really,

(10:46):
like you said, like Jack Vausch in terms of, you know,
running the ball, he was sacked four times. They just
were never really a threat offensively in the Ohio State
secondary didn't play particularly well. So that would be something
that would be of concern going into the Indiana game.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Yeah, very much.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
So.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Indiana has a much more prolific offense passing in running
the football than Northwestern. It's but it is in Ohio Stadium.
I expect a much more spirited Buckeye team, a much
more up for the game Buckeye team. So we'll see

(11:26):
how that goes. Rather than you know, a noon kickoff
on the road before a big game in a baseball stadium,
maybe maybe not the the you know, pinnacle of emotional
football from Ohio State this weekend.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean, it's just an old action action that
that it's almost impossible to get up for every game.
I mean, like I again, as a as a fan,
you know, you want Ohio State to go out and
dominate the opponent, with the opponent from start to finish,
and you know, and the reality is it's like, okay,
you know, it's just it's just not possible. And the

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coaches can preach and say, hey, don't overlook your opponent.
And I'm not saying that Ohio State did that because
obviously when you look at a thirty one to seven,
but I just think, all right, they know, all right,
Northwestern is having a down year, Perdue was having a
down year. It's kind of like, guys, all we got
to do is just let's just put this one away.

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Let's get back to Columbus let's focus on Indiana in
Michigan obviously like that, there's a lot of a lot
of things that are kind of in the back of
their mind that right now, after taking care of Perdue
in Northwestern, it's all in front of them, and I
think that, like you said, I think they'll have a
little bit more intensity this coming week.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, let's get to our defensive picks to click, chip
I had Cody Simon had six tackles, that is one
off of the team high. There was r Bill Reese
and Jacksweer each had seven. Cody Simon did not have
a sack, attack for loss of forced fumble, an interception,
a pass breakup, any really other stats other than the tackles.

(13:07):
I don't know. I'm going to leave it up to
you whether he clicked or not.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
No, I think, I mean, I think he had a
solid game. I mean, I it's like you said, it
wasn't the it wasn't the most spectacular of performances. But
I mean the defense again, for the first time in
three games, let's let's let's look at it, you know,
a big picture. For the first time in three games,

(13:32):
Ohio State's defense gave up an offensive touchdown I think,
you know, the defense has been playing well. Now, granted
they didn't play well and that initially, but like I said,
they they kind of got some things figured out.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, it's ironic that the first touchdown and give up
in a few games for the opposing offenses against one
of the worst offenses in the entire country. Sawyer finished
with seven tackles, did force a fumbled, no sacks, no
tackles for loss. He did have three quarterback hurries, but
he missed two sacks in this game. I'm gonna go

(14:07):
ahead and give him a click because he ended up
doing enough to do that. But I really feel like
Jack Sawyer left some plays out there that he could
have made and should have made and didn't. Sonny Styles
was a recipient of one of those. Sonny Styles ends
up with two sacks, and the only reason I got
one of those sacks is because Jack Sawyer whift.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, Jack Sawyer, I think we are so far beyond
the just the I guess the expectation of when is
he going to be this this superstar that everyone predicted
it's not gonna have. I think Jack Sawyer is a
very good football player. I think J. T. Twoey molowow
is a very good football player, but they're not going

(14:44):
to be the Boss. They're not going to be Chase Young,
and they're just going to be very good defensive linemen
that you're always going to think that that there's more coming,
But the reality is I think, like I think we
have seen kind of like they're just solid football players.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, I think you're right, j T. Two. Molowel did
start this game no stats, not a single stat for him.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's my point, Like I said, like, he's just he's
It's like after that performance a few years ago at
Penn State, I think everyone thought, Okay, now we're getting
to you know, like the the hype that came out,
you know, out of high school recruiting. And I just
don't me wrong. I think they'll both they'll both be
selected in the NFL Draft, but it'd be a shock

(15:32):
to me if either of them were picked before Day three.
That's just how it is. I mean, I just I
think that they're just they're good football players, but they're
not superstar defensive lineman that Ohio State fans have been
pining for.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, it's a it's a shame I keep predicting that
Jack Sawyer will break out. He just always looks so
close to breaking out, and he just all right, Chip
anything else on this Northwestern game? Or should we just
move on?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I think we can move on. I mean, like I said,
two games closer for Ohio State. Now we're to the
point now like we're in the thick of it when
it comes to, all right, Big Ten Conference game elimination game,
you know, like this is Ohio State. They win this,
they're one step closer. So yeah, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
All right, Well, we'll talk about the Indiana game. Beginning
of the season, I did not think the Indiana game
was going to be an important part of Ohio State
getting to the Big Ten championship game, but it ends
up being the key game. They also have to, of course,
contend with their rivals from up North in the final week.
So two very big games to end the season. And

(16:49):
as we saw, you can take nothing for granted because
Oregon struggled this week. We'll talk more about that in
a few minutes. Final thoughts on this game for me
is that I really didn't need to hear all of
the baseball stuff we know Wrigley Field's baseball stadium. Big

(17:11):
Ten Network leaned into that heavily, and it was more
annoying than it was interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
I understand that, I think of anything. Hey, they were
just trying to you know, they were trying to add
spice to something that they know, knew full wall that
Ohio State was going to have little to no problem
winning that game, and they were just trying to make
it as trying to create suspense and intrigue and fascination

(17:39):
when it really wasn't necessary.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Yes, add some flavor where flavor does not exist.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
You got it, all right?

Speaker 1 (17:49):
All right, we will get to the Indiana game, and
we'll get to all the other scores around the Big Ten.
We're going to do that right after this and we
are back, Chip and Chip. Did you get much of
an opportunity this weekend to watch any of the other

(18:09):
Big Ten games?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I did watch the second half of Nebraska USC and
I have to admit I was with some old high
school friends and we were watching the first half of
Tennessee Georgia, and as soon as we saw that Wisconsin
was actually giving Oregon a game, we flipped over to

(18:34):
NBC to watch the second half of Wisconsin Oregon. So
that's my answer is that Nebraska USC and the Wisconsin
Oregon game.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Okay, I didn't get a chance to watch a whole
lot around the league this weekend. I watched some of
the Friday game. I watched some of the USC Nebraska
game as well, and that was kind of it. By
the time I flipped over to the Oregon Wisconsin game,
they had just had the interception at the end, so

(19:06):
it was like I was hoping to have a nice,
you know, storybook ending there, but then it didn't happen,
So that was kind of a waste of waste of
my time. Let's start on Friday night chip with UCLA
at Washington. This has never been a big ten matchup
before this year. Ucla kind of hung around and it

(19:28):
was a fourteen to ten game at the end of
the first half, but then at the end Washington just
kind of pulled away in the second half and they
win it thirty one at nineteen. Again one of these
games where I feel like, if that's at UCLA, it
might be a different outcome. I feel like these two
teams are pretty evenly matched.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I would agree with that, and you know, now with
with Washington, so that win over Ucla, that that gave
them the magic number of six, so they know that
they're going to a Bull game now they actually have
this coming week, they have a bye, and then they
finish up playing against Oregon. Now, say what you will

(20:09):
about we'll talk about Oregon here in a minute. You know,
they have a I mean in terms of like a
traditional rivalry Washington and Oregon. It'll be interesting to see,
you know what, Washington, how they how are you know
how when they do play Oregon, how well that goes?
And as far as UCLA goes. This coming week they

(20:30):
have their traditional crosstown rivalry with USC in Ucla, like
this is what they're at the moment now, where it's
like they've got to win this week, they have to
win the week after that to get to six wins
otherwise they're going to be sitting at home during the
bowl games.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah. Yeah, Ucla is up against it now. But I
think from the way they started this season, they're heading
in the right direction. It took them longer to get
there than they probably wanted to, but I think they're
heading in the right direction. Washington, as you say eligible.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Now, yep, I would agree with that. I think Ucla
it's they're definitely going in the right direction. It's just
hopefully it's not a little too late.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Saturday, Chip as the Buckeyes, we already talked about their
win over Northwestern, Penn State went to Purdue had no
trouble whatsoever with the boiler Makers winning forty nine to
ten on the road in West Lafayette. So Penn State
now nine to one. They will stay in the top
five in the College Football Playoff rankings this week, and

(21:39):
Penn State probably sitting in a great position because if
some a few things happen, they could still play in
the Big Ten title game. But even if they don't,
they're not exposed, and so they are basically in the
College Football Playoff.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Yeah, I mean it would take some I mean, it's
not impossible, but it would take some major stumbling by
Penn State down the stretch to not be in the
College Football Playoff. From what I understand from like social media,
it's kind of you know, it's just the new world
that we live in that Penn State season ticket holders

(22:17):
were notified about. I guess with the College Football Playoff,
ticketing policies and procedures would be you know, like the
mere thought of Penn State hosting a college football playoff.
I mean, I know that they and I'm not saying
that they weren't weren't right to be irritated with their
white out game being relegated to Washington and then being Okay,

(22:40):
we're going to put it on Peacock. There's hope springs
eternal for Penn State to not only host a college
football playoff game but have it at night in Beaver
Stadium in December.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Second to be a white out, and let's see if
it's an SEC team, you know, like that would just
it would just make for quite the quite the spectacle
for college football.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah. I have to admit I watched a little more
SEC than Big Ten this week, and I saw the
South Carolina game, and I watched a lot of the
Georgia Tennessee game as well. So okay, that's where I
was kind of but I was multitasking all weekend, so
I didn't really wasn't really that intensely watching either of

(23:25):
them and just had them on. Michigan State went to
Illinois and things did not go well. First party as
the align I improved the seven and three overall four
to three, and Big Ten play with the thirty eight
sixteen thumping of the Spartans.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I didn't see this game, you know, just in terms
of you know, when it was on. But I mean,
I'm not surprised that Illinois won because I was on
the mindset that last the last time Illinois played that
they kind of embarrassed themselves against Minnesota. So Illinois like
they had already clinched bowl game eligibil. So now they're
seven and three, you know, any and all subsequent wins,

(24:05):
you know, they're just improving that bowl game destination. As
far as Michigan State, we were just talking about things
going in the right direction for Michigan State. They're they're
not completely out of it. They have just looking at
in terms of like this coming week they're going to
be hosting Perdue, and Purdue is obviously, you know, I

(24:27):
mean just really struggling. Yeah, they're really bad. They might
have they might have they might have qu i t
it for the for the season. And then you know,
as far as Michigan State, their final game, they're hosting Rutgers. Now,
we haven't talked about Rutgers yet, but my point being,
Jonathan Smith has done a really good job similar to

(24:50):
Deshaun Foster. I think he has Michigan State pointed in
the right direction. I think it would be more than
likely that Michigan State wins this game against Purdue. I
don't know if Michigan and State has it in them,
but I'm not not going to bet against them getting
to that magic number of six.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yeah, it will be interesting to see. I think Rutgers
seems like they're writing the ship, and we'll again talk
a little bit about that in a minute. Let's get
to Oregon going to Madison for the first time as
a Big Ten school, and this game chip was ten
six Badgers at the half, thirteen to six after three quarters.

(25:31):
Somehow Oregon never got that offense in gear, but they
did score ten points in the fourth quarter to win
at sixteen thirteen and go to eleven to oh eight
to zero. And Big Ten play, Wisconsin stays short of
full eligibility at five and five overall, three and four
in Big Ten Play. And then, of course we are

(25:51):
hearing today that Wisconsin has made a change in the
coaching staff. Not coach Fickle, but one of his assistants
has gone.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah. Uh, kind of a surprise in the sense that
you know, Wisconsin, they still have obviously two games left
to play in the regular season. Uh, they're not Bowl
eligible yet.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
But yeah, Phil Longo, the Wisconsin offensive coordinator, was let go.
So personally, I think this is I agree with something
a social media post that I saw from former Ohio
State linebacker Joshua Perry, who is now an analyst for
NBC Sports, And I, you know, not having it directly

(26:34):
in front of me, but just to kind of paraphrase
what Joshua Perry said, is like, this is probably the
most crucial hire of Luke Fickle's tenure at Wisconsin because
he has to he has to get back to what
made Wisconsin successful. And I'm not I'm not saying that
Wisconsin can't throw the ball, but I think that the

(26:55):
direction that that Luke Fickle took, obviously the results speak
for themselves. How Wisconsin has just been floundering offensively the
last two seasons. So kind of interesting to see how
Wisconsin rallies to try and get to bowl game eligibility.
They still have a shot at getting to a old

(27:16):
bowl game, but it'll be interesting to see what direction
Luke Fickle takes in the offensive coaching ranks this offseason.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Yeah, I mean, I imagine it was. It's probably been
frustrating all seasons for Fickle and getting so close to
pulling off that up set to get to Bowl eligibility,
being the number one team in the country and not
being able to just put more than thirteen points on
the board probably had to be the last straw for him. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Well, the I mean, the Wisconsin passing game has just
been bad. I mean, it's just been one of these
things where they've cycled through so many different transfer portal
quarterbacks and you know, and I'm not going to sit
here and say that Paul christ was the most charismatic

(28:08):
person in terms of, you know, the offense. But when
you think about you know, he knew the formula. You know,
it's like, Wisconsin, we're going to run the ball. We're
going to have, you know, like a short to intermediate
passing game that you know can move the sticks, and

(28:30):
for whatever reason, the decision to completely jettison that it's
just backfired. And so now and now it's completely on
Luke Fickle. I mean, it's the kind of thing where
it's spoke volumes a week ago. Don't ask me which podcast,
but there was a little blurb of Barry Alvarez, who,
again he's no longer the athletic director there, but his
legend looms large understandably in Madison that he he basically said, yeah,

(28:55):
I don't know what Wisconsin's identity is anymore, and that
you know you need that, you need the support Barry Alvarez,
even if he's no longer in a position of authority.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, he's influential, that's for sure. So Oregon does hold
on and stay unbeaten, and it will be interesting to
see if they get any kind of punishment in the
in the polls, so I don't expect that to happen.
They did win on the road. So let's go to
the game you watched. USC holds on to beat Nebraska

(29:29):
twenty eight to twenty not a really scintillating game. I
did watch part of this and I was bored, so
I flipped through another game. Yeah, it didn't really do
much for me. Both of these teams are five and five,
neither one of them is a Bowl eligible yet, and
I just it's a win. But man, is Lincoln Riley's

(29:51):
first year in the Big Ten not It has not
been convincing at all.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
So a few things first, of all, I appreciate, you know, honestly,
is the best policy ladies and gentlemen, you know, like so,
I appreciate the fact that, like you what you said
about how you found it boring. But getting back to
the topic at hand, it is it is visibly evident
when watching USC that priority number one for Lincoln Riley

(30:20):
and his assistants is to figure out, either through the
transfer portal or through their recruiting efforts, to beef up
physically on both lines of scrimmage, offensively and defensively. Because
the style of play that worked for USC in the
Pac twelve and that Lincoln Riley his background coming from Oklahoma,

(30:44):
you know, kind of more of a finesse offense. It's
not working against traditional and I realized it's kind of
strange to say a traditional Big Ten team in Nebraska,
but like Nebraska was able to run the ball. That's
kind of why a few moments ago we were talking
about UCLA. You know, if the game had been I
agree with you about if the game had been at UCLA,

(31:06):
the results might have been different. Ucla is committed to
running the ball and the fact that this is a
traditional rivalry game. Deshaun Foster has his guys playing much
more physically. I think it's I'm not saying that USC
can't win. I am simply suggesting that the odds of

(31:26):
UCLA getting to Bowl eligibility seem better than USC when
you think about the fact that USC is playing against
not like UCLA, but they finish up the regular season
against Notre Dame again, another physical team. So it's like
USC has a lot of things to figure out. Nebraska.
I don't know what to say except for the fact
that they are just they are just stuck at that

(31:48):
five win spot. Controversial ending at the end where Nebraska
throwing for the end zone and there was obvious pass
interference that was not called, and the likelihood of you
excuse me, I have Nebraska completing the pass, scoring the
touchdown you know that, you know, and then being able to,

(32:11):
you know, get the two point conversion. That's kind of
I mean, we can argue about that, but I just
think that that was I mean that that was a
horrible officiating mistake that Nebraska fans have every reason to
be upset about.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, you and I grew up in an era where
USC was a physical football team. That's right on some
side of the ball defensively, their safeties, their linebackers, their
defensive linemen. They hit, and oh yeah, that's not what
we have. Now we have a USC team that doesn't
really I've seen them, you know, go for big hits
and get them, but they're not very sound defensively overall.

(32:49):
And that's not going to get it done in the
Big Ten. And obviously it's not getting it done in
the Big Ten. They're three and five in league play
right now.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You're absolutely right, like as as you know, you know,
like some of my earliest memories of watching USC football,
the idea of you know, like the USC tailback was
the prestige position, you know, like the players like and
I know it's it hurts to think of, you know,

(33:17):
like Charles White when we talk about Ohio State football.
But like Charles White, Marcus Allen, you know, like those
kind of dominant running backs that you were able to
you know, like you said, you know, like USC running
the ball, USC with you know, talented defensive players. It's
they've got to they've got to figure something out because

(33:38):
it you know, either that were Lincoln Riley. Because I
know that the seat is starting to get a little
warmer I don't think it's going to be this year,
but I think if he has another kind of mediocre year,
when you when you evaluate the money he's being paid
and the results on the field, I think next year
is going to be kind of a do or die
for Lincoln Riley and USC.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Yeah, I agree. All right, let's wrap this up with
Rutgers going to Maryland. We kind of talked about this
being the Bowl eligibility Bowl for these teams. And Rutgers
wins at thirty one to seventeen, a close game through
three quarters. Rutgers pulls away in the fourth quarter, and
Rutgers is Bowl eligible. Chip at six and four three
and four Big Ten play. Maryland is four and six

(34:21):
with IOWA and Penn State remaining. I don't think Maryland's
going bowling this year.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I don't either. I mean, as inconsistent as Iowa has been,
I just know that Maryland, I mean, I don't see
them being able to get over that hump, especially against
Penn State. I think Penn State sees the possibility of
that College Football Playoff by running the table, and I
think it's well within Penn State to be able to

(34:49):
do that. But yeah, I mean Rutgers. They're Bowl eligible.
I'm happy for Greg Ciano. Say what you will about
you know that they're not necessarily flashy. But we were
just talking about, you know, being true to yourself. You know,
Greg Ciano when he was at Rutgers originally and now
that he's there for his second tour of duty, greg

(35:11):
Ciano's teams are going to be effective at running the
ball and playing pretty sound defense. And it's not necessarily
always sexy. It's not always necessarily something that is going
to be captivating, but it's usually effective. And so you know,
Kyle m Nung guy came back, had a pretty solid game,
a couple of touchdowns, almost one hundred yards. You know,

(35:32):
that's that's basically Rutgers formula. So Rutgers, they obviously want
to improve their bowl game destination venue. But Rutgers they
can breathe easy, and they're they're at that magic six number.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
You know, they're in. And I think Rutgers they got
Illinois and they've got Michigan State, and I I mean,
I don't think they'll beat Illinois, but I think they
could beat Illinois. So there's a chance that Rutgers could
have a pretty strong finish in the Big ten overall
at the end of it, they are, they're three and four.

(36:05):
They could be above five hundred if they close it
out strong, and given where some of the other so
many of the other teams are right around that same mark,
that would that would propel them up the table quite
a bit.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, I mean there's a let's face it, I mean,
there's a there's a big difference in being a six
and six bowl team versus an eight and four bowl
team in the terms of the you know, the bowl
game destination. I mean, like it's usually I feel bad

(36:38):
because it's one of these things where like the bowl
games that are usually like the six and six you
know bowl games that those are usually the ones that
are like either before Christmas or like you know, that
week of Christmas, versus the ones that you and I
be a little older, that we think of like okay,
you know, like January first, like those kind of bowl

(36:58):
games that's usually like the you know, like you're seeing
you know, a little sunnier, a little warmer. So that's
kind of what I'm thinking, is that Rutgers, if they
can improve, if they can win these last two or
like you said, it's kind of a you know, like
a flip of the coin. Honestly, like Rutgers Illinois, I think,
but they definitely can improve their their bowl game destination

(37:20):
if they win these last two.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, it depends on which Illinois shows up, which Rutgers
shows up for that one. But Maryland, Maryland's got to
hope that the that the bad Iowa shows up, and
then they have to hope that there aren't enough Bowl
eligible teams that they could sneak in.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Ye. Well that I laugh because that's base Like that's
how Minnesota got in last year. I mean like they
got in because of the same thing. And let's face it,
with the new it, we're in uncharted territory. The new
twelve game excuse me, twelve team playoffs. You know what
that does in terms of like the the bowl games,

(37:59):
you know, like the eye options. It's going to be
interesting to see.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Sure, yeah, I'm interested to see how that goes. But
you definitely don't want to be in a bowl game
the Tuesday before Christmas in the middle of the work day.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
No, not at all. I mean you rest assured Chip
Minick will have it on in the background, but it's
going to be you know, like it's not going to
be like must see TV by any stretch of the imagination.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I could don't want to be in the second or
third tier bowl game in a city, like you don't
want to be Orlando's third bowl game. There you go,
third most prestigious bullgame or Birmingham's second most prestigious bullgame.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Well that's a I mean, that's the thing. I mean,
I I guess, like I realize, like I'm speaking to
you and our listeners, I'm speaking to you from Ohio,
and I have no room to complain. For the middle
of November. It was in the mid fifties, you know,
So like that's that's about as good as it gets
when it comes to, you know, like this time of year.

(39:00):
Then that being said, kind of to my point is
like Okay, after a long season and to be told, Okay,
you're going to get to go to Boise, Idaho, or
you're going to get to go you know, to I
mean when you talk about like remember remember when Ohio
State when when they had to go and I mean

(39:22):
one of them. You want to talk about just a
bowl game that most Ohio State fans would prefer to forget.
When Ohio State when they fell down the food chain
and had to play in Memphis against air Force, Like, okay,
so it was cold, Ohio State didn't want to be there,

(39:42):
air Force did, air Force won. I mean, it was
just bad. The whole thing was bad.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
So don't don't go unless you're a team that that
that that's a good thing for.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
That's what I mean. That's what I mean. So it's
like that's it's like anything you can do to improve
your lot.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Whole game at Fenway now too, there.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Is That's what I'm saying. It's like that that is
the Pinstripe Bowl that will be that that was we
were just talking about, you know, Rutgers, you know, like
that's kind of where you know in previous years. Now,
the Miami Hurricanes have improved this this season, but you know,

(40:24):
like I just I can recall watching the Miami Hurricanes
players all like shivering and hanging around like the heaters
on the sidelines because again I just said it, they
didn't want to be there and it was visibly evident.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Well, the pin Stripe Bowl is in Yankee.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Stadium, right, Excuse me, I'm sorry, I don't.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Actually know if there's one in Fenway. It just seems
like they're probably is there's somebody.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I I'm almost certain that there is. It's like now
that now that you mentioned it in terms of you know,
like now I've got I've got to see it. So
it's like, you know, because I'm almost maybe it's called
the Fenway bit Bowl. I had to think for a second. Yeah,

(41:10):
so they don't even have a I'm just saying it's
it's like and and and and nothing against the good
people of Boston or New York City. I am merely
stating that, Okay, like the prestige of those bowl games,
you know, like when you think about how long the

(41:31):
college football season is for a player in terms of
like the physical demands to be told, you're going to
be going to a game where it's you know, possibly
twenty or thirty degrees outside.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
In a baseball stadium.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
That's what I'm saying. It's like that's where you see
the opt outs. And I don't blame the players. I
don't blame the players.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Here here are your here are your Fenway Bowl matchups
chip the last two years, Boston College and SMU and
Louisville at Cincinnati. Only one of those four teams was
ranked you there.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
You go, so yeah, volumes volume, volumes spoken right there.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, all right, that's enough, crapp Sorry, I'll take I'll
take the abuse.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
No, it's it's fine. No, nobody cares, but I think
it is enough. So let's move on to Indiana coming
to Ohio Stadium. Hip. This is one of the games
of the year in the conference, and it just feels
so weird to say that you're talking about the Hoosiers.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Well, that's the thing. I mean, like Indiana Kritzignetti, he
kind of I don't want to say that he raised eyebrows,
but he was, uh, you know, back in the summertime.
You know, he was very very bold and very bombastic
about Okay, we're gonna we're gonna be successful. Like he

(42:56):
you know, has never had a losing season. Obviously, Indiana
is Kinnano undefeated right now. It would be completely ludicrous
to say that, you know that the average college football
fan would say, oh, yeah, like I knew Indiana was
going to be this good. No, like I thought Indiana
would be. We were just talking about Bowl eligibility. I

(43:17):
certainly thought that they would be in that conversation, but
nobody could have anticipated Indiana being as successful as they've
been so.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Far, especially not me Chip, because I picked them to
finish dead last in the Big Ten.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
That's okay, that hey, you know, like you're you're going
off of you know, like that you're just your previous
experience with Indiana, and which isn't not just.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
That, It's like, okay, coaches have come in, good coaches
or supposedly good coaches have come into these these schools
before they've gone deep into transfer portal, and it just
doesn't seem to make that big of a difference. There's
not that many difference makers coming in in the portal typically,
but they what Indiana's doing well CHIP is scoring when

(44:01):
they have the ball. But what I mean by that
is that their scoring offense is second in the country.
They're averaging forty three point nine points per game, and
that is outperforming everything else they're doing offensively. In total offense,
for example, they're fifteenth in the country. So that's pretty good. Right,
fifteenth in the country, especially for Indiana, is really good.

(44:25):
But they are turning those into a lot of points,
and that's the key there. You look at their passing
offense and their passing offense is twenty third in the country,
and their rushing offense is worse than that. They're rushing offense,
I believe is forty yeah, forty seventh in the country.
So you're in the twenties the teams, the twenties and

(44:47):
the forties in total passing and rushing offense, but second
in scoring offense. That means you're paying drives off.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, they one he air. That is going to be interesting.
We were talking about Ohio State defensively, is that when
it comes to Indiana, they have really been good with
their with their run pass option, you know, being able
to to you know, keep drives going, like you said,

(45:18):
you know, pay things off in terms of, you know,
scoring points. So Ohio State is going to have to
I'm not saying that they're going to shut them out.
I'm not going to be that bowl, but I think
the Ohio State defense truly has to step up their
game because this is, without question one of the one
of the better scoring offenses that Ohio State's defense has faced,

(45:40):
and I'm including Oregon in that capacity.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Then on the other side of the football chip, Indiana
is third in total defense, allowing two or fifty five
yards per game. That is just one spot behind Ohio State.
And I know some of this has to do with
the schedule they've played, but that's still very very impressive.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Oh it is. That's when you were talking about the
success of the transfer portal. A big chunk of players
that were that came with Kurtzignety from James Madison were
on the defensive side of the ball. So the fact
that they were able to implement with a new coaching
staff players from James Madison who had a familiarity with

(46:24):
the scheme and the coaching staff. I think that's been
a big part of their success.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Now on just as they are outperforming scoring wise on
the offensive side of the ball relative to how they
perform in the various phases of offense, they are maybe
a little bit underperforming defensively in scoring. They are a
seventh in scoring defense, which is still very very good.
It's only a field goal below what Ohio State's allowing,

(46:50):
which is Ohio State is tied with Army allowing ten
point three points per game Indiana's at thirteen point eight.
But if you're second in total or third in total
defense and seventh in scoring defense, what it means is
you're giving up more points than you would expect given
the fact that you're not giving up a whole lot
of yards. So Indiana's number one in the country and

(47:13):
rushing defense, that is a part of Ohio State's game
that they want to get going. They will want to
run the football. They will want to get Quinn Shawn
Judkins and Travon Henderson going. They will want to get
you know, five yards of carry like they've been getting.
I think that the Northwestern game was encouraging to me
in the run game because the Northwestern has you know,

(47:35):
a pretty good defensive line and linebacking corps. I feel
like that they're not super easy to run against. An
Ohio State as that game went on, was able to
start popping ten and fifteen yard runs.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, Ohio State definitely. And this is where kind of
you've heard me preach this. They have to be committed
to the running game because you know, we're in November
right now. The weather forecast, I don't have it directly
in front of me, but I do know that, you know,

(48:06):
speaking in the Cleveland area right now, the weather forecast
and things can change. But by the time it comes
around for Saturdays, it might be rainy, and wet. So
if that's the same same thing in Columbus, you know,
like you're going to have to I'm not saying that
you can't throw the ball, but I mean in terms of,
you know, consistently moving the ball, probably the most effective

(48:28):
way will be by running it. So a high State
has to be patient if things aren't immediately successful, doesn't
mean that they have to abandon the run completely.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
I would like to see Ohio State's defense defensive ends
pop into those those passing lanes for those tunnel screens
and those RPO short passes. Jtloow is really good at that,
so I would like to see him making some big
plays in this game, just to put a finishing touch

(49:00):
on Indiana's defense. They are twenty I think it's the pass.
So again, very very good in all phases of the
game defensively for Indiana. But we will see what that
looks like against an offense that they haven't played against
anything close to an offense like Ohio States.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, it's this should be a good one. I mean
we're talking you know, obviously big noon kickoff. Fox is
bringing their squad, but ESPN, even though they don't have
the contract anymore, ESPN College Game Day is going to
be there. I mean, this is legit, This is going
to be kind of I mean we talked about in

(49:37):
terms of like Penn State having things in front of them. Indiana.
I'm not trying to say that this would happen, but
Indiana has been a lot like already, there's been a
lot of sniping about, like, oh Indiana hasn't really played anybody,
you know, you know, why are they highly ranked? So
if Ohio State blows Indiana out, which I'm going to

(49:58):
tell you right now, that's not going to happen that
Ohios you know, like if Indiana plays well, they can
position themselves to still be in the college football playoff.
So there's a lot hanging on this game for both.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Teams, absolutely, one hundred percent. So when you're looking at them,
the first thing that stands out to you really is
their quarterback, Curtis Rurke. This is a prerequisite to having
a good college football team, it seems like, is having
a solid quarterback. Here's a senior who's completing seventy one

(50:33):
point eight percent of his passes, he's got twenty one touchdowns,
only four interceptions. He's really been if it's not for him.
This team isn't where it is, right.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I'm uh, you know, Tavian Jackson filled in capably for him,
but you're absolutely correct. You're correct. Curtis Rurke is the
main reason why Indiana has been so prolific offensively.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Now, two very good running backs also on this team
that have been right about the same. They're they're running
back situations very strong. They've they've got three guys that
are averaging more than four point seven nine yards per carry,
that have at least thirty nine carries on the season,
but they're primary guys, a couple of seniors, Justice Elison
and ty Sun Lawton six hundred and eighty six yards

(51:20):
and five hundred eight yards respectively, each with nine touchdowns.
So they're kind of interchangeable. And Ohio State's going to
have to face a fresh running back who there's no
drop off from one to the next.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
No, And that's kind of, if anything, that's a credit
to you know, Indiana's scheme and the fact that they're
able to, you know, to kind of liberally substitute players
in and out and still be very effective.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Now, the guy who is really looking forward to being
held and interfered with by Davis Niggunosen is Elijah Saraht
who is thirty eight catches for six hundred and eighty
five yards and six touchdowns to lead Indiana leads him
min yards, receptions and touchdowns, and Omar Cooper Junior is

(52:10):
not too far behind twenty four catches, five hundred twenty
seven yards and five touchdowns. Those are the two primary
targets this Buckeye defense. Cannot have an off day from
Denzel Burke, cannot have an off day from Davis Enigmundosen.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Completely agree. I think Elijah sarat is he He's not
as talented as you know, for example, when when Ohio State,
when you were just talking about, like Denzel Burke and
Davis Enigmuenosen not as talented as the wide receiver corps
that Oregon put out against Ohio State back in October.

(52:50):
But Elijah Sarratt is definitely a very physical wide receiver. Yeah,
I am kind of curious, you know when it comes
to you know, Davis Enigmunosen and Denzel el Burt. I'm
not saying that he's going to start. I'm not saying
that he is going to be, you know, the person
that I'm going to be selecting from my my uh

(53:12):
I pick to click. But I think Jermaine Matthews Junior
might be vital in this game because he's he's been
coming on in terms of, you know, playing when Davis
and Gnosen does have an issue, even this last game,
you know Denzel Burke, So it wouldn't surprise me if
we see a lot of Jermaine Matthews Junior in this game.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And unfortunately this past week, I felt like Jermaine Matthews
got burned about three or four times in this game
in that game as well against Northwestern. So it wasn't
just Burt gave up a couple of big catches. Ignosen
gave up at least one big catch I had, and
obviously had the pass interference penalty, which seems to be

(53:55):
like a weekly thing. Now. He's the JB. Shuegarts of
the defensive backfield. Now, for you used to be able
to count on JB. Shuguard's having at least one false
start every week, now you can count on Davis Enigmunosen
having a pass interference every week.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Well, let's hope that that doesn't happen this week.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
That's hope Spring's eternal. All right, so this is going
to be a difficult game. We should now pick our
picks to click. We went on the defensive side of
the ball first against Northwestern, So let's go back to offense.
Who do you like to click against Indiana? Chip, Who
do you think is going to find some success against
Indiana's a very, very highly rated defense.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
All right, So I know that you mentioned earlier that
he's been kind of quiet recently. I'm going to go
with the Mecha Buca. I think that this is an
opportunity for him to kind of rise and show he
is still a very important part of that Ohio State offense.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Okay, I am going to go with Traveon Henderson. I
think that he's been the better running back each of
the last two weeks, and I'm thinking that this is
a game where it's going to be one of those
games where I think Ryan Day and Chuck Kelly are
going to have to ride with the guy that's the

(55:14):
hotter hand. I think he's been getting fewer carries. I
think this week that changes knee ends up with more carries.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Okay, I understand that.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
So let's go to the defensive side of the ball.
And I am going to go back to the secondary
and take a guy who is going to be able
to play well against the run or the pass. I
feel like it's an interception week for Caleb Downs. I
think calebw I know we've kind of talked about him

(55:44):
as a free space but against an offense like Indiana's
that's been able to run the ball and throw the ball,
I think it just that's his skill set. He's good
against the run, he's good against the pass. He's way
overdue for an interception. I think he's going to get one.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, I think Caleb Downs. I mean it's you know,
it's just evident. You know, his his open field, tackling,
physical style of play. Without without question, I think Caleb
Downs is, you know, an exceptional player. You know, it's
good to see that he's just kind of starting to

(56:21):
pick up more steam as we get into the bigger
and more important game. So that's a really good pick.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah. And then the reason I ordinarily wouldn't pick him
because he's just kind of like cheating, but because I've
hedged at with I think he's going to get a pick.
That's why I picked him.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Okay, I like it.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
What do you like on the defensive side of the ball.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Chip, we were talking about Curtis Rourke, the run pass option.
I think this is a game where Sunny Styles needs
to step up. That's my my that's my selection.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
All right. I almost almost took Sonny then I switched
at the last second. So obviously a good pick.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
All right.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Prediction time chip, What is going to be on that
score at the end of the game. It's we expect
a tight game. So what's it going to come down
to and what's that final score going to be?

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Well, I know right now that the betting line, I
think Ohio State is favored by ten. I don't see
it being that. If anything, I would love it if
it came out to be like that. I'm I'm thinking
it's going to be definitely in the in the fourth
quarter that Ohio State eventually pulls away higher scoring than

(57:30):
the Ohio State fans would prefer this Indiana that like
you said, this Indiana team can put up points. So
I'm going to go you know, you know, I'm going
to go Ohio State thirty one, Indiana twenty four.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Okay, so a one touchdown game is what you've got.
I am going to go. I also think these teams
are going to trade haymakers. I am going to go.
I'm going to take Ohio State as well. I'm going
to say closer thirty five to thirty one. Okay, we'll see.

(58:08):
I really hope that Jim Nole's defense has been just
kind of playing with its food the last two weeks,
because they were they were very, very good, especially against
Penn State, and the last couple of weeks, to maybe
just not look quite as intense at starts of games there.
I feel like they're going to be intense to start

(58:28):
this game. I would love it if this was a
night game, or at least a three thirty game, to
get to get the crowd a little bit more time
to get up for it, to maybe let the juices
flow and the players a little bit more. But at
the end of the day, at the same time, you're
talking about making Indiana play an hour earlier than they

(58:49):
typically would, or at least an hour early not necessarily
in the they typically would, but eleven am their time
instead of.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
New You got it. Yep?

Speaker 1 (58:58):
So all right, well, well I'm back next week. Chip.
We will look at our predictions, see how we did.
We'll break down the Indiana game. And of course, my goodness,
we've already gotten to the point where're talking about previewing
the game.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
I know, crazy.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Once again, time has flown, you got it? During a
college football season happens every year. It just seems like,
oh wow, it's August. There's going to be games soon,
and next thing you know, it's like, well, this is
the last regular season game.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Too fast?

Speaker 1 (59:32):
Yeah, all right, anything else you want to add before
we get out of here. We're good.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
No, I think we're good.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
All right. In that case, Chip, remind our fine listeners
where they can find you and your work online, please.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I can be found on Twitter at Chipmanik. Last name
spelled I N N I C H and I am
a contributor to Buckeye Huddle. To look for an article
previewing the Ohio State Indiana game, probably on Thursday or Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I like, in the huddle you settle in over there,
I am.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I am, they're they're they're they're treating me. They're treating me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
Fine, I know you're cheating on me with another podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
I wouldn't call it cheating, per se.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
No, you're not podcast monogamous though, all right, you can
follow me on Twitter as well at my thirty six
fan is where you can find me on Twitter. You
can also find the Silver Bullets Podcast on Twitter at
silver Bullets Pod. There's not enough characters, so you have

(01:00:36):
to take out the E and silver. It's s I
l v R b U l L E T S
p O D, so the only E is in bullets
Silver Bullets Pod one e uh. You can also email
Chip and myself at silver Bulletspod at gmail dot com,
and that one you spell out all the way. I
know it's confusing, but spell out silver Bullets and pod

(01:00:58):
at gmail dot com. If you want to get a
question in for the next show or a comment, we'll
be happy to read it on the air and then
answer any questions you might have. So thank you for listening,
and we will then get on our way and let
you get on with your week. Because these are two
very very big weeks for Ohio State football back to back,

(01:01:20):
and of course the second of those weeks is largely
dependent on how the first one goes. So we will
see what the Buckeyes will do against Indiana. It's been
a long time since this has been a matchup that
anybody was really concerned about and now all of a sudden, yeah,
it's a big game. So that's going to do it.

(01:01:42):
The only thing that left for us to do is
what we always do at the end, So thank you
again for listening, and we will be back next week
on the week of the game and Thanksgiving and all
that fun stuff. So that's going to do it. The
only thing left for us to do, Chip is that
thing we do at the end, which is to say,
go box, Go Box.