Penn State Rewind and Purdue Preview

Ohio State needed a half to return from its bye week but the Buckeyes were able to pull away from the Penn State Nittany Lions after halftime. Julian Sayin threw more touchdowns than incomplete passes, and his receiving corps continues to practice surgery on opposing secondaries.

We broke down the Buckeyes’ 38-14 win over the Nitts, which could have been even more lopsided had forward progress been a thing or if C.J. Donaldson had been a bit more possessive of the pigskin. We checked to see how our picks to click performed on Saturday, and we looked back to see how our final score predictions panned out. 

After our Penn State rewind, we looked around the rest of the B1G to see how the other teams in the conference made out over the weekend. The surprise banger was Michigan State at Minnesota. I didn’t say it was a brilliant game, but it was entertaining, at least toward the end. Indiana got some initial resistance from Maryland and then blew the Terps away. USC handled Nebraska on the road, but even with an injured Dylan Raiola, it wasn’t easy. Purdue also didn’t make things easy on Michigan in Ann Arbor. 

Once again, there are plenty of intriguing matchups coming up this weekend as the Big Ten season enters its final trimester. 

Finally, we previewed Ohio State’s visit to West Lafayette, Indiana. Weird things happen in the negative energy field at Ross-Ade Stadium, so the Buckeyes will need to overcome whatever strange contraptions the engineers at Purdue have come up with to level the playing field for their Boilermakers. We selected the players we are picking to click against Purdue on Saturday on both offense and defense and tried once again to predict the final score. We’re expecting the Boilermakers to put up a battle on Saturday but the Buckeyes should prevail as long as they don’t help their hosts. 

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0:20 - A comfortable win over Penn State hasn’t been the norm in recent years, so the second half was a nice change of pace on Saturday. 
 
27:40 - There was plenty of other action all around the B1G and we dive into it. 

46:15 - The Buckeyes head to Indiana to take on Purdue. We preview the matchup. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Hellogain everybody at its time. For another episode of the
Silver Bullets podcast, I'm Michael Citrow and I'm Chipman chip
Buck Eyes hosted the Nitney Lions and a potential trap
game of sorts. As it would be easy to take
for granted a team that had lost several games in
a row, that was expected to do a lot in
the season and didn't and fire James Franklin. But Ohio

(00:42):
State after a as we expected, a little bit of
a difficult first half, got things figured out and win
comfortably thirty eight fourteen.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, as you said, kind of expected Penn State to
come in. We have Ohio State as much of a
challenge as they possibly had. I thought it was. I
personally thought the slightest bit of adversity that Ohio State
did face was a good thing. We could talk about
it in greater detail. But yeah, Ohio State in the

(01:12):
second half came out and just took care of business
and won comfortably.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Really a game that should have been a little more
comfortable than it was for reasons we'll get into. But
Penn State came out right off the bat and hit
Ohio State in the mouth with a twenty six yard
toss sweep and it was a play that they ran
several times in the first half to good success, and
credit to Matt Patricia for figuring it out in the

(01:38):
second half. But also I didn't see a lot of
Penn State trying to do it in the second half.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, that was kind of that was kind of puzzling.
You thought that okay had been successful in the first half.
Why did they deviate from that? But that's something that
I think Penn State fans probably should be asking.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, the Buckeyes did buckle down on that first drive
and force Penn State to go out and then went
down the field themselves because Ohigho State likes to do
that on offense, just go right down the field and
score points. And Ohio State took a seven nothing lead
on Jeremiah Smith fourteen yard pass from Julian Saying and

(02:16):
it was the first of two for Jeremiah on the day.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, it looked like Ohisai was going to win comfortably
at that point.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, Penn State again was stopped. Ohio State this time
drove all the way down to the four, but then
a whiff on a third down block by Carson Hinsman
led to a pressure, and Julian saying threw a bad
pass as a result of the pressure and had to
just get rid of it. They had to settle for
a field goal, So it was ten nothing just seconds

(02:44):
into the second quarter.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah, I obviously that was something that I think that
they would have loved to have had back. But this
is kind of like what I said a moment ago
about the first sign of adversity that Ohio State, you know,
like that they were able to kind of weather through
some of some challenges.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah, I'm sure there was some. I don't know from
what I'm here now of the Ohio State camp, at
least what they're saying publicly. There wasn't a lot of
bad blood with Jim Knowles, but you could tell this
was probably a game that meant a little bit more
to some people Jim Knowles for example, and Ryan Day.
But and Jim Knowles was able to get some isolated

(03:24):
victories along the offensive line with some really uncharacteristic whiffs.
Luke Montgomery had one on a run play where he
just completely missed the guy and the Hensman one that
I just talked about. But again, just like the defense,
the offense settled in in the second half, and you
didn't see nearly as many of those Penn State linemen

(03:46):
and blitzers coming free exactly.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I think that, you know, whatever was said at halftime,
and I'm sure it was very loud and not necessarily
you know, g rated, I think things things were settled
down dramatically in the second half.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
And Penn State got on the board with six eighteen
to play in the second quarter and made it ten
to seven on that same sweet play, this time they
ran it to Nick Singleton instead of k Tron Allen,
and Ohio State was in pretty good shape. After a
long pass to Carnell Tape for a touchdown made it
seventeen to seven. Ohio State gets a stop and takes

(04:26):
over at their twenty yard line, and then probably the
play that's most aggravating for all Buckeye fans, chip at
number one. You've got under two minutes to play. You
want to go and put the game away. You're up ten.
You can go down and score again and basically put
the game to bed by halftime, and Ryan Day and
Brian Hartline opt to come out with CJ. Donaldson as

(04:49):
the running back and just a straight run up the
middle and as annoying as that was, it got even
worse because it appeared Donaldson had forward progress started right
at the line of scrimmage, started to be pushed backwards
in fact, and then the ball came out after that
and they called it a fumble and upheld it on
the review.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, that was. That was, like I said, not only frustrating,
but like that most adverse, just simply because all right,
as you just said, Michael, it looked like Ohio State
they were going to be able to, you know, implement
their I'm not going to call it their two minute offense,
but you know, like kind of like a hurry up offense,
you know, because it was under two minutes, like if

(05:28):
you know, possibly score another touchdown. If not, you know,
get into field goal position, put the game out of
reach before the end of the first half. Put CJ.
Donaldson in who let's let's face it. I mean, he's
certainly I think has identified himself and we'll talk about
it more in the second half as a true role
player on this on this offense. And then that fumble

(05:51):
just it gave all the momentum of the Penn State
going into at the end of the at the end
of the first half.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, it just seemed weird to give the ball to
your short yard back on first and ten when you're
in a two minute offense situation. Right, Maybe they're trying to, oh, well,
we'll catch him off guard. They'll expect us to come
out passing. I don't know, but sometimes you can overthink things.
I agree they were having too much success throwing the
ball to have to resort to trying to trick Penn

(06:18):
State and the CJ. Donaldson obviously not the running back.
I would have wanted to be carrying the ball in
that situation anyway. But and nothing, no slam on CJ.
He's good at what he does, but he's he's not
been producing what Bo Jackson has been producing, or even
Isaiah West.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
That's fair, that's very accurate.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
So Penn State takes over and it's thirteen yard line,
and curiously, Ryan Day does not call timeouts on defense
to try to preserve clock for a late drive in
the half, and he did call one with twenty nine
seconds left as he got a chance to see what
Penn State was going to line up for on third
and six. But Penn State ends up getting the first
down anyway and scores on the next play, and it's

(07:00):
seventeen fourteen as Ohio State kneels down and does the
kneel of shame going into the half, and it's a
three point game, and it shouldn't have been that close.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
It shouldn't have been And that's kind of what I
said earlier. I'm sure that there were some things said
at a higher volume, like I said, not g rated
at the half, and if anything like this was I
kind of I mean, all credit to Penn State. I
mean like they came to play kind of what I
had anticipated. I wrote something about that on Buckeye Huddle

(07:32):
last week, like being prepared for a team that is.
I think the way that Bobby Carpenter referred to it
heading into this game is that this team was wounded.
They weren't a bad team, they were wounded, and so
I think that was a good way to describe them.
But as we will discuss momentarily at the half, I think,
you know, obviously adjustments were made and o ISAA came

(07:53):
out and took control.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, so it was a close game at the half.
Didn't need to be a close game half, and it
was really disingenuous and annoying for the announcers to to
rip on higher stage defenses. Give it up any first
half touchdowns. Now they give up two, it's game. But
they on the only they had to go thirteen yards
for the second one. Come on, I agree, I agree,

(08:17):
So come out in the second half. Ohio State gets
about midfield, does have to punt. But then shortly after that,
just the offense started rolling. We had a third quarter
touchdown for CJ. Donaldson on a one yard run, so
he you know, he got to redeem himself to some

(08:38):
extent for that made it twenty four to fourteen in
the third quarter. Then before the third quarter was out,
a nice wrinkle on a play to Christian Bennett Christian
to make it thirty one fourteen. As Ohio State used
all of its tight ends very effectively and in various
ways in this game. And then in the fourth quarter
they put it away on a pass that's deflect it

(09:00):
and just an insanely amazing catch by Jeremiah Smith with
one hand and then runs it into the end zone.
So the balls up in the area, You're likeking, oh, no,
you know this could be picked. But instead Jeremiah Smith
shows that he's the best player in college football.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Without it without question. If anything, I like the way
Ryan Day postgame said, yeah, that wasn't exactly the way
that we drew it up, or something along those lines,
you know, like poking fun of the fact that, Yeah,
I mean it was you know, just to watch that
in real time, you know that as you said, Michael,
you know, like the fear is okay, when a ball

(09:36):
gets deflected, it's going to be intercepted. And then for
Jeremiah Smith to come up one handed and still score
a touchdown was remarkable.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Ohio State ship was repeatedly able to take the top
off the Penn State defense, even when they were playing
quarters coverage. It was it was something to behold, as
Julian saying, was dropping dimes over top of that defense
into to Carnel Tate and and Jeremiah Smith. It was
quite a performance by all of them. We'll get more
into the stats in a minute, but just a little

(10:07):
surprising to see Ohio State just have that much success
against the defense that was in some instances set up
to prevent the deep ball.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You would think, so, yeah, I mean, it's it's just
one of these things. We've talked about it in previous episodes.
And previous opponents. Is that, you know, with Jeremiah Smith,
and I agree with you, I think the best player
in college football without question, that you make the conscious
decision that This is a conversation my wife and I
had as we were watching the game. It's like, okay,
you if you want to provide, you know, additional coverage

(10:43):
towards Jeremiah Smith, which makes sense. All you're doing is
you're you are basically putting yourself completely in harm's way
of somebody else on this very formidable Ohio State offense
to do damage Colonel Tate. You know, we talked about,
you know, like the idea of you know, Colonel Tate.
You know, it is certainly rising to the occasion, you know,
in terms of what he has done, not just in

(11:05):
this game, but in previous games. So yeah, that defense,
you know, I think Jim Knowles, we saw it sometimes
at Ohio State, you know, just giving up big plays.
In Penn State, they made the conscious decision to try
to get Jeremiah Smith out of the game. They weren't
successful at it and quite often were burned by you know,
like you said, you know, it's like their safety play.

(11:26):
They were completely susceptible to big plays.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, at some point in Ohio State will run into
a defense that's capable of covering both Tate and Smith,
I would think, or at least, maybe not every play,
but at least, you know, somewhat consistently, or at least,
you know, in critical downs. But at this point, teams
continue to opt to say, Okay, we're not we're gonna

(11:52):
We're gonna make someone else beat us other than Jeremiah Smith.
But the guy on the other side is almost as
good as Jeremiah Smith.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, and another guy that I know we're going to
get into the statue momentarily, another guy that I thought
was showing up didn't have nearly you know, like the
touchdowns or anything like that. Brandon Inis. You know, like
it is so easy to forget that Brandon Innis was
highly touted, and you know he's kind of unsung and
you know, like kind of you know, you know, we

(12:20):
we notice him more, you know, for his special teams play.
But you know, Brandon Innis had had some moments too.
So it's it's just one of these things where it's like, Okay,
if you are going to make that decision, somebody on
this on this offense, Julian saying, is showing the ability
to find somebody who is who's drawing single coverage and
make make you pay for it.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeaw. The other thing is that if you if your
safeties are paying so much attention to Taton Smith, Max
Claire just goes right down the middle of the.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Field and got it.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
So it very much is a pick your poison kind
of situation. But thirty eight to fourteen is the final.
Looking back at our predictions, chip, you had twenty eight
to seven, and without that fumble you would have been
very close to the final score. I had thirty four
to seventeen. So I came a little bit closer this week,
and I will take the victory absolutely.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah. I mean, you know, at the half, I will
freely admit I thought, okay a little you know, like
the fact that obviously that they scored that touchdown, but
you know it didn't wind up you know that Ohio State.
And not that I'm a gambler, and not that I'm
endorsing that or advocating for that, but they did cover
the spread for those people that you know, like when

(13:30):
you know, like the idea of like a twenty point
spread but yeah, I think, you know, Penn State, it's
going to be one of those things where I think
if you're a Penn State fan, you have to kind
of be wondering, why did we go away from what
was I'm not saying that it was successful all the time,
but what was working for them in certain segments in

(13:50):
the first half, they kind of went away from it.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, all right, let's dive into the stats because Chip
Julian Sayin came into this game leading the nation in
a completion percentage at eighty percent, and he was well
over that in this game at eighty seven percent. Twenty
of twenty three, three hundred and sixteen yards, four touchdowns,
no interceptions, was not sacked. Chip, he had more touchdown

(14:15):
throws than in complete passes.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, he's He's truly remarkable in just his his accuracy.
I will say, you know, like when it comes to
you know, like the deep ball, Like I think there
were a couple of times where I don't want to
say that they had to slow down per se, but yeah,
like if we're nitpicking, and that's exactly what it is,
like that would be the only thing like if he could,

(14:40):
you know, lead the receiver a little bit more on
some of the deep passes, but yeah, you cannot argue
with the stats and the results that Julian Saying is producing.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeh from a rushing standpoint, really didn't look good in
the first half, but bo Jackson broke out in the
second half. Ended up with thirteen carries for one hundred
and five yards averaged eight point one yards per carry,
helped along by a fifty one yarder. James Peoples carried
four times for nineteen yards. CJ. Donaldson seven for seventeen
and a touchdown. Julian Saying had some nice scrambles, including

(15:12):
avoiding a sack and getting a key first down.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, I'm hoping that that's a sign of things to come, because,
as you said, you know, with upcoming opponents and I'm
not discounting anyone in the remaining regular season opponent list,
but also the College Football Playoff, the opposing defenses are
going to get better. So Julian Saying, knowing that he

(15:36):
has the mobility to get himself out of situations, I'm
not suggesting that he put himself in harm's way, but
kind of what he demonstrated against Penn State, hope to
see that that's a sign of things to come.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, just get to the ground, young man.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yep, you got it.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
He stayed up a couple of yards too long. Yeah,
but you know, sometimes if you don't know exactly where
that first down marker is, you have to have to
make sure. So but it all worked out. Receiving wise,
Carnal Tate Jeremiah Smith were very similar to what they produced.
Five catches for Carnal Tate, six for Jeremiah Smith one
hundred and twenty four yards and a touchdown for Tate

(16:14):
one hundred and twenty three yards and two touchdowns for Smith.
Both had a long catch of fifty seven yards, so
as Tate had one more yard and Smith had one
more touchdown.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, I mean again, it's just distributing the wealth, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
You mentioned Brandon Nis four catches for forty one yards.
They did a nice job of sending the two burners
deep and hitting Innis with some nice underneath stuff to
give future opponents something else to worry about.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, and good luck, you know, trying to cover.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
It is clearing out and then you're leaving. You know,
your slot guy, your slot coverage guy on a very
talented receiver or having to maybe even use a linebacker
in certain defenses. Will Kasmirek and Max Claire and James
Peoples all had one catch. Christian Bennett christ had two.

(17:08):
I'll keep wanting to call him Christian Bennett's he's got
You've got two names that you can flop around.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I understand that exactly, all right.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
So our picks to click. I took. I took a
guy named Jeremiah Smith. I think there's no question that
he clicked right.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
You took Max Claire, and Max Claire had a first
down catch. He also drew a key pass interference call,
and did he also was he also the player held
on the play where they rough the quarterback?

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes, you got it.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So I'm gonna give him a click because even when
he was targeted but didn't make the catch, he still
affected the play.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Well. I appreciate that. If anything, I was just going
to say, if you hadn't given him the click, I
was just going to say what I'm starting to see
more and more of Max Clare, which I believe that
the coaches certainly are, is his contribution as a blocker.
You know, like that was I don't want to I mean,
it sounds like all right again kind of in the
category of nitpicking that you know, like that he was

(18:09):
a horrible blocker, that's not at all. I just think
for this Ohio State offense, the tight end position, you know,
we always want the tight end to be this dynamic
pass receiver, and I think he certainly has moments where
you can do that. But the tight end in the
Ohio State's offense is always going to have to be
a real physical blocker at the point of attack, and

(18:30):
I think he is. He's evolving into that. So I
think he's certainly making his contributions to the Ohio State
offense more and more.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Absolutely, on the defensive side of the ball, you had
rvil Reese no brainer click. He had twelve total tackles
to lead the team, two and a half tackles for
loss a sack. Didn't get credit for quarterback hurry, but
there was one where he was Jason Ethan Brunkelemeer and
made him throw it away. So I mean, to me,
that's a quarterback hurry. I don't know why he doesn't
get credit for one there.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, I'm kind of surprised that as well. That was
I'm not sure like within the the lexicon, you know,
like Grunkelmeyer. What do they They say that he made
a business decision, you know, like when he's being you know,
chased from behind by r VL Reese. But yeah, you know,
he certainly is showing why he is is being projected

(19:18):
as a high NFL draft choice next spring.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Yeah, they gave the one where he laid down. They
gave that sack to Kenyata Jackson. I thought that Jackson
and Reese should have each got a half a sack
for that. I would agree with that because he did
go down right as Reese was touching him. I mean
if Reese was just cleaning up the play because he
did spin away from Jackson, so and he kind of
went down on his own, like you said, business decisions.

(19:41):
So I think that would probably been a more fair
assessment of the play. But Kenyeata Jackson, obviously was was
very good in this game as well. Also knocked down
a pass. I had Caleb downs and I was prepared
not to give him a click if he got that
targeting call, but he did not, and then he went
on to intercept the PA the end zone. So five tackles,

(20:02):
a tackle for loss, an interception. Caleb downs was fourth
on the team and tackles. On Saturday, he clicked as well,
and that would have been a I would say, a
disastrous consider you got Purdue coming up next week, but
I would say that would have been a bad targeting
to take. But when at the time that he jumped,
he doesn't know if that ball is gonna get caught

(20:23):
or not, and it looked to me like they made
the right decision. It looked like he tried to turn
away from the receiver once he saw the ball was out.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah. I mean, it's just such a it's such a
difficult thing. I realize I've said this before. I think
what would be it would just benefit college football overall,
is coming up with something comparable to what you see
in soccer, with the idea of like kind of like
the the escalated penalty idea of you know, like the

(20:54):
you know, like the yellow card to the red card
like within you know, the way that the penalty was
assessed was like a fifteen our personal foul. Yeah, not
that I wanted not you know, not that I wanted
that either, but it's like, okay, I think that and
then okay, a warning to the offending player that then
the next time that you are involved in a play
similar that that is, that's where you would have you're

(21:16):
removed from from play for the remainder of this game
in the first half of next I think that would
just I think it would just benefit college football overall
because there's just such a I mean, the ideas of
players being removed from the game where it seems like, okay,
it it doesn't look like it it matches up with

(21:37):
the definition of targeting that we've been given. And then
there are times where we see players where we think
that that they certainly are going to be ejected and
they're not. So that's just my thought.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yeah, it's it's still a crapshoot. He could have gotten
the boot that in other games, But like I said,
it was I think it was a fair decision. They
still got the fit ten yards for a hit on
a defenseless receiver. But again, I think he jumped before
the ball came out. I think he tried to turn away,
his head away even though his head was out in

(22:10):
front of his body. Because of the way he jumped
and in turn trying to turn, I think he like
prevented himself from like really getting the arms out and stuff.
So I think that not hitting with the crown of
the helmet, to me, it looked like the right call,
the right decision. But you know, I can't really take
my bias out of it, obviously, but to me, it
looked like the right decision. We've seen other ones where

(22:34):
you're like, what's the guy supposed to do on that play?
The guy like the guy goes down and his head
wasn't where it ended up, you know, And it's so
hard to judge that at at game speed. But I
give Caleb Downs a click. So I think we went
four for four this week. Well, thank you, I don't

(22:54):
thank me, thank them Buckeyes. They were playing well, so
obviously Wench and Kenyata Jackson two and a half tackles
for lost, two sacks to pass broken up. I mean,
it was a very complete game by the Ohio State
defense once they once they they got away from doing

(23:14):
that that toss sweep, uh, they pretty much didn't have
trouble with much of the rest of it. And unfortunately
the second touchdown that they gave up it was only
because uh was k Tron Allen on the second one.
His his knee couldn't hit down because there were players
underneath him.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, and personally I kept saying, like, okay, I can't
even see where he is. You know, I never saw
an angle that showed that he was, you know, So
I mean I guess you know, he scored, but it's like, okay,
I just couldn't definitively see.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
So yeah, there were well, there were two very curious
no replays on that. There was also a play where
in the game, I should say, there was that which
we never really I thought they should have taken a
good long look at that that touchdown. And then the
other one was it was a scramble by I think

(24:07):
it was scrambled by Grunkmeyer on third down where he
looked short like his back was at the line to gain,
but the ball was behind him, and I thought, and
they gave him the first down and there was no replay.
There was no review of that play. I thought that
was weird. Yeah, I agree, but you know, big ten
ref's gonna be big ten ref. Mm hmm, all right.

(24:29):
Check anything else come out of this game that you
want to call attention to.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I will just simply say, Penn State good luck the
rest of the year. Because it looks like it's going
to be a very challenging end of the regular season.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, go ahead and win next week. This was this,
like we talked about it, this was their bowl game.
They if they win this game and and go on
get on a roll, they go to probably go to
a pretty decent bowl game at the end.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Of the year, exactly because they would have.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Not only not only would have qualified bowl game, but
they would have had some impressive wins on the resume
going down the stretch. Yep, all right, they will have
to wait for another day. Are we hearing anything about
the coaching. Are you buying any Lane Kiffen to Penn
State stock right now?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
No, not at all, not at all.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Do they do they dip their toe in the Vanderbilt
Well again.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I don't think that's either the guy that I honestly
I said this as soon as the news was made
and I haven't heard anything. But to me, the most
logical candidate is Manny Diaz at Duke. It really is.
He coached there, He's you know, he's familiar with the
Penn State landscape. I think, you know, in terms of

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no disrespect to Duke, because they just had a big
win against Clemson and and he's doing good things at Duke.
But I think if he was to be given you know,
a healthy dose of truth serum, he would tell you
that the odds of winning a national champions up at
pensate or greater than what he has a Duke. That
to me, that would be the guy that I would target.
But I haven't heard anything.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Strangely, with the way Clemson season's gone this year, the
Clemson Florida State loser may not be Pole eligible at
the end of the year exactly.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I mean, it's it's getting it's getting pretty dicey down there.
I mean in terms of you know, without the ACC
I mean, Miami lost, you know, so it's just kind
of a jumble mess within that conference.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, some some strange games around the country. Now. I
wasn't able to watch as much football this weekend because
I have YouTube TV and they are squabbling with Disney
right now. So I had no ABC or ESPN games
this weekend, and it's brutal. I wrote a very strongly
worded message through their contact form that this will be

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my last weekend without college football and ABC and ESPN,
whether or not they're part of it, that remains to me.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, that's tough.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
When you're doing this, and you know, part of what
we do with blogging and podcasting, we need to be
able to see these games, and so many of them
are on those networks, so we are bound by our
billionaire corporate overlords.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well put, all.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Right, Well, we've still got to go around the rest
of Big Ten to see how other teams made out.
And of course we've got our Purdue previews. Why don't
we get to those things right after this? All right, Chip,
we are back, and I tell you there were some

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good games this weekend. There were some not so good
games this weekend. Some games that were good in a
surprising way. Maybe not the best football, but at least
entertaining a little bit of everything this weekend.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, within the Big Ten, some blowouts, but like again,
as you just said, I think some very close games,
some very entertaining games.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
So in addition to Ohio States thirty eight fourteen win
over Penn State, Indiana went to Maryland. I have to
say the Terps started this game very well. They were
flying around defensively, they were hitting, they intercepted Mendoza. They
really looked like they were up for the fight until

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the fact that they could not move the ball offensively.
Leake Washington threw two terrible interceptions in the first quarter
and was just not very impressive to me overall in
that game. And Indiana ends up getting their stuff together
and blowing out Maryland fifty five to ten.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, this was a game that I kind of anticipated
the end result. I didn't anticipate the interceptions, but I
anticipated the end results. So Indiana they just looked like
they just, you know, they are just locked in and
loaded focused. I mean to just kind of thrush anyone
and everyone in their way, and that way seems to

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be heading directly towards Indianapolis for the Big Ten championship.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah. I think the only thing could have maybe changed
this at all is if Maryland had taken advantage of
when their defense was playing well early and put some
more pressure on Indiana, things might have been different. Indiana
actually started to make more inroads when they started running
the ball more so, yes, including Mendoza, and there were
some obvious quarterback draw situations where Maryland got completely punked.

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So yeah, same old Maryland, I guess, is what we're saying.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah. I think now here's the part that I think
is going to be interesting, and I realize there's still
football to be played, and I'm not ever pushing for,
you know, somebody to get fired, is I mean, if
you're Maryland, do you want I mean, the the list
of college coaching vacancy seems to be increasing week after

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week as we're recording this. No news yet, but there's
a lot of strong speculation about Auburn possibly coming open.
I don't know if you want to even join that,
you know what I mean, Like, do you really want
to be in big time competition? So it's good. It's
just gonna be interesting to see what direction Maryland takes
if they if they continue to flounder down the remainder

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of November's Big ten schedule.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
James Franklin, Maryland Terrapins.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It would hey, that would not be that would not
be a bad thing for Maryland. It would not you know,
just because I mean he had been there. You know,
he was supposed to be the coach in waiting, that
the Ralph Frigent thing, and then you know that's what
led him to Vanderbilt, which you just said, you know,
so it wouldn't be a bad thing. It would just

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be interesting that way.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
So he and a lot of noise about him going
to Virginia Tech. Right, we'll see, yeah, all right, Indiana's
nine to oh overall six to oh in the Big Ten,
Maryland four and four, one and four and Big Ten
played not Bowl eligible. Not looking good for Maryland at
this point. Check Perdue went into Michigan and gave the

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Wolverines a battle that when the Wolverines win at twenty
one sixteen, a five point home win over Purdue.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I had been saying that Purdue is better than
people were giving them credit. So I I'm not surprised
that that Michigan won, But I'm also not surprised that
that Perdue, you know, gave them a battle. And I'm
sure that there's just you know, missed opportunities, you know, turnovers,
things like that that that cost Purdue dearly. But these

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are the kind of things where if you're Barry Odom,
being able to build upon you know, I know we're
going to talk about Purdue in greater detail momentarily, but
you know, Purdue, definitely there are so much more improved,
that's so much improved from last year. So you know,
I think Purdue is certainly, you know, nothing to be
ashamed of their for their efforts against the Wolverines.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I mean Michigan had a running back go for
one hundred and eighty five yards and three touchdowns and
that was basically their offense because yes, Perdue basically you know,
held Bryce Underwood in check. And you know, teams have
been able to get at that Purdue defense this year,
but Michigan wasn't able to really really get out and

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flex or muscle. So Purdue two and seven overall oh
and six and the Big Ten, Michigan seven and two,
five and one, staying alive in the Big Ten race.
And then we go to the blackout in Nebraska. Not
just a blackout for some reason at noon in Ohio
Stadium Chip, but also Nebraska had a blackout even black balloons.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I mean, I just I'm sorry. I just the
whole of a blackout at noon Ross Buyorck. I just
don't it made no sense anyway we're talking about Nebraska. USC.
I feel bad for Nebraska, and I mean I haven't
seen anything in terms of social media like about the

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Dylan Reola had to leave the game due to injury,
So I don't know severe that is happy to see
USC went on the road to a you know, challenging
environment and come out with the win.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's twenty one seventeen USC and the heartbreak for Nebraska
is they get the they have the ball last, they
have a chance to go down and maybe win the game,
and they have a fourth and one and the running
back trips in the backfield.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, I mean, just watching that, you know, it's just
all you know, it makes you wonder like what could
have been. But yeah, you know, it's like it's just
one of these things where, you know, we were just
talking about Penn State. You know, Nebraska, they did what
they could to, okay, make sure that that Matt rules
off the market. You know. So in Nebraska, you know

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they are Bowl eligible. Obviously they are, you going to
do everything they can to to win down the stretch,
but more than likely their postseason is going to be
you know, hopefully like a nice warm weather site, you know,
because they still have some games that they can win
on the stretch.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah. Us see also Bowl eligible now six and two overall,
four and one in the Big Ten. Is they try
to stay alive in the race. Nebraska six and three overall,
three and three in the Big Ten. Matt Rule was
never going to Penn State, so good for him forgetting
more money.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, I just think I think, you know, Penn States
is a good job. I'm not trying to mock it,
but I just think the coaching football landscape, I mean
kind of like the joke is that, you know, James
Franklin is getting some real nice raises for college coaches

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around the country, you know, and Matt Rule. I just
I never felt even though you know, the Penn Sate ties,
I'm not disputing it, I just never thought that that
was something that the Penn State fans are going to
be excited about. So I think this is I think
it's the best thing for all all parties involved.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Yeah, Rutgers went to Illinois. That was a close game
for about a quarter and five minutes of the second
quarter maybe, and then Illinois just took over and won
thirty five to thirteen.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, Illinois, they know that they need to they need
to win out just to even be possibly in the
College Football Playoff. Rutgers, it's gonna be tough for them
down the stretch because they've got some really you know,
challenging games in November.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, Rutgers is four and five overall one and five
in the Big Ten. Illinois is six and three. They're
Bowl eligible for the second year in a row under
Brett Bilima. It's been a while since they were Bowl
eligible and back to back years they're three and three
in the Big Ten. And then we move on to
a game that I did not think was going to
be such a dogfight, but Michigan State went into Minnesota.

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I should call it a rock fight. It was more
like that, as Michigan State overcomes a deficit and takes
a lead late in the game and then Minnesota comes
back and sends it to overtime. That was a ten
to ten game late and Michigan State scored, Minnesota answered,
it goes to overtime, Michigan State held to a field goal,

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Minnesota wins on a walk off touchdown.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, and some controversial non calls for past interference on
Michigan State, a passing interference call on Michigan State that
benefited Minnesota. So you know, Michigan State, they got to
clean up the penalties. But they're still playing. They're still
playing top obviously by the fact that they were down,
they battled back, had the lead. First time starting quarterback

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because they were sitting Aiden Childs to try and get
a different spark offensively. So Michigan State, I know, it's
it sounds, you know, you really don't get much out
of moral victories, but I think, you know, stay the
course with Jonathan Smith in.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
My opinion, Yeah, I think that Michigan State took a
step in the right direction in this game. And not
I didn't think their offense looked particularly good. It was
surprising to me that Minnesota struggled against the Spartans defense
because the Spartans defense hasn't done anything all.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Year, right, Yeah, I mean that's going to be the
question you know, down this, you know, in November for
the Spartans is if they can they can figure out
what they're doing defensively. They still they are not yet eliminated.
They have a bye week this coming week. They I believe,
you know, like they can. They could win out and
you know, get to a lower level bowl if they

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go six and six. So stranger things have happened.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Yeah, they really needed to finish this game and to
have a really good chance at being Bowl eligible. So
we'll see how it goes for Sparta down the stretch.
There are three and six over oh and six and
the Big Ten, uh six and three from Minnesota their
Bowl eligible and four and two in Big Ten play
and that was it. Everybody else was off. Yep, all right,

(38:11):
let's move on to next week, ship and the game's
in the Big Ten, I believe. Is everybody back in action?

Speaker 2 (38:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Not everybody got some So I just mentioned bye week.
There's a Friday game this week though Northwestern will go
to USC. I don't think that's going to go well
for the Wildcats.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I don't either Northwestern. I mean, there's a scrappy bunch,
but I think USC at home. Uh and let's let's
just say that, you know, when it comes to you know,
you have no idea in terms of like with the
travel Friday night. I think USC this is They're they're
trying to finish the year strong, and I just think

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they're gonna be able to take care of the Wildcats
very easily.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah. I think that's the USC pull away in the
second half kind of game and Northwestern sitting there one
game below bowl eligible, so they can pull the upset.
They will be in a bowl game. Ohio State at
one o'clock on the Big Ten Network will go to Purdue.
You never know what's going to happen in West Lafayette,
but you know, it's always weird.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
It is, you know, mentioning the one o'clock kickoff time.
This is I had to look this up. This is
the first regular season game that Ohio State is kicking
off at the one pm time slot since the two
thousand and five Ohio State Michigan game. The first time

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one pm kickoff since the infamous Florida Bowl game, where,
you know, after the twenty eleven season. So it's just
kind of an unusual time to you know, it's usually
that we get so used to twelve, three thirty or seven.

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One pm is just kind of an unorthodox time.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
There's several games chip showing on the ESPN site anyway
as TBD as far.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
As actually okay they I can tell you that within
it was because of it's not on ESPN, just because
of their hatred of all things big ten. I can
tell you that the kickoff times were on they were
originally on that dreaded six day hold. So in terms

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of like the other times, Indiana at Penn State is
going to be the twelve pm big noon kickoff game
on Fox Maryland at Rutgers is going to be a
two thirty PM on FS one.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, that was listed.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oregon at Iowa. Lucky for CBS, they actually get a
really decent game. They're usually not given top games. They
get the three thirty pm game on CBS. Washington at
Wisconsin is going to be a four to thirty pm
on the on the Big Ten network. And then, for
strange reason, I'm not sure why this is Nebraska at

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UCLA is at nine pm on Fox HU on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Everybody avoids those at Peacock games.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's going on on
on NBC and Peacock, but I could just tell you
that's kind of what the the six day old announcements
were like. I mean we're talking like right and early
this morning.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
So yeah, Indiana Penn State's an intriguing game because again
you got that very talented Penn State team. Even though
they're zero to five in the Big Ten and three
and five overall, it wouldn't be shocking if Penn State
won at Happy Valley.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It wouldn't be shocking. I just think Indiana, like I
said a few moments ago, I just think that they're
just on a mission, and so I'm gonna go with
the Hoosiers winning big again.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, they're on a mission, but missions, as we know,
can be derailed. All right. Oregon and Iowa a very
intriguing matchup of two four and one Big Ten teams,
the losers basically out of the Big Ten title race,
a title game race, and the winner still stays very

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much in it.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah. I think Oregon, you have to be somewhat cautious
just simply because many a team has gone into Kinnick
Stadium and has you know suffered a you know, like
all this were the better team and they come out
on the losing end. I mean, Ohiot eight was one

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of them a few years ago. So I just think, yeah,
I'm going to predict Oregon to win. I think this
is this is going to be a struggle. I mean,
we were just talking about Indiana. One of Indiana's toughest games,
I'd say probably Indiana's toughest game this year was when
they went to Iowa and the Hawkeyes gave them a game.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
Yeah, very not much difference in the record between Oregon
and Iowa. But Oregon's ranked in the top ten and
i was not ranked. So I think that Iowa has
a chance to get ranked for the win.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, it's entirely possible, certainly.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
And actually, as we record this on Sunday, have the
new rankings been updated yet, not that I've seen, So
they could could squeak in before the before the week starts,
as they are have been in the others receiving votes category.
Nebraska Ucla the Cornerhuskers need to bounce back. Ucla has
been a tough out since since firing the head coach,

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and you know, even though they got smoked by Indiana,
they've they've been pretty much scoring on everybody else. So
Nebraska is gonna have to be on its game to
go out west and win that game.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
And I said this a few moments ago, not knowing
the severity of the injury that Dylan Royola sustained that
could play a factor. So I mean, right now, I'm
not gonna say that it's beyond the realm of possibility
for Nebraska to win this game, but I certainly feel

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more comfortable with UCLA coming off of bye playing at
home in front of their fans.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
And Washington goes to Wisconsin and Camp Randall is always
an interesting place to visit. Wisconsin not got its best team. Washington, though,
has struggled a few times this year, So this one
could be a closer game than maybe we would have
thought a few weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
It could be both teams are coming off by that. Wisconsin,
you know, if they have a strength, it is on
the defensive side of the ball. Like you just said,
Washington sometimes they come out a little sluggish. So this
is the kind of thing where if Washington allows Wisconsin
to hang around, this could be closer than expected. I'm

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going to go with the Huskies just because I think
offensively they do. How of the kind of team that
you know, Wisconsin is so inept on that side of
the ball that I think it's kind of tough for
them to keep pace. But I think this could be
a This could be a sleeper game for for Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah, Maryland at Rutgers, and the loser of this game
is probably not getting Bowl eligible. So this is a
huge game for both Maryland and Rutgers.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
It's in Piscataway, Yeah, and I mean, who knows, you know,
Maryland sometimes they come out looking great. We were just
talking about, you know, they had Washington on the ropes,
lost that one, but they were just completely boat raced
at home by Indiana. So I'm gonna go with Rutgers
just because it's at home, and I think Rutgers has

(45:46):
just a little bit more fight in them than kind
of what I've been seeing lately from from the Turfs.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, whoever, whoever can get to halftime ahead probably wins
this game. The other team's probably the Uh, it's just
gonna end up going here we go again.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Yeah, good point.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
All right. Uh, that's it. That's it for the trip
around the Big Ten Chip, and it's time to turn
our attention toward the Boiler Makers of Purdue.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
This is a game that on on paper, this should
not be a close game.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
On paper, but as the Wolverines would be quick to
volunteer as well. As we were just talking about Rutgers,
we were talking about Minnesota earlier. All those those three
teams all now, granted, I don't think that they have
nearly the kind of offensive firepower that Ohio State has,

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but all three of those teams, they were they were
in tussles that went you know, pretty much down to
the wire with with Purdue. So yeah, I I just
you know, if anything, I think uh, Ohio State cannot
overlook the boiler Makers. Like you said, going to Rob said, uh,
in years past has has often had some very inexplicable results.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Yeah, Purdue has used a couple of sophomore quarterbacks this year.
Neither has a great touchdown to interception ratio. But who
are we going to see on Saturday in West Lafayette
calling the signals and and what kind of threat that
they pose? Ohio State's very good defense.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, on on Purdue, Ryan Brown, I mean he has
his moments. Uh, you know, they also what you saw
against Michigan is you know, like they they were pulling
out all the stops, so like sometimes having I believe
it was Malachi Singleton, you know kind of you know
as a change of pace, you know, running threat. So yeah,

(47:50):
I think Purdue they're going to do what they can
to keep this game as close as they possibly can,
and that that means the alternating quarterbacks or for you know,
interjecting some some variety into their offense. I think they're
going to do it.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
And Brown has nine touchdowns, seven interceptions sixty one passer.
Singleton has three touchdowns and two interceptions. So again, they're
they're they're putting the ball in Harm's way, Yes, exactly.
Running the football, Devin Mackabee seems to be the guy.
Five hundred and twenty one yards, four touchdowns, He's averaging

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sixty five yards per game. I would anticipate they'll make
some plays here and there, but I think Ohio State's
defense should be able to shut down the Purdue run.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Oh yeah, like that would be you know, this is
this is a showcase opportunity for the High States defense,
without question.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, and hopefully they'll be able to get that done
on the road. They've got got a receiver named Michael Jackson,
the third He fifty catches four hundred and fifty six
yards at a touchdown, averages fifty yards per game. He's
kind of their primary guy. He's got more than twice
so many receptions than second place Nitro Tuggle, which is

(49:07):
a great name.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Yeah. They they are improving. That's as as politely as
I can put it. Is that compared to last year,
where I mean you could just see that this team quit,
you know, like before before the end of September. This
team Purdue quit. This year, they are they are kind

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of I've said it before, kind of almost in that
Greg Chiano Rutgers rebuild mode of just being a pesky
annoyance that you have to deal with for you know,
I'm not saying for the entire game, but this team
is just their mental outlook and their their performance I
think is so much better. So yeah, this this should

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be entertaining for at least the first half.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
But Nitro has four touchdowns. He's their touchdown guy exactly.
All right, So anybody on Purdue defense stick out to
you that house state needs to watch out for.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Uh. I wouldn't say so much that they stick out,
you know when when I look at you know, Purdue
just overall in terms of you know, they are a
hodgepodge of you know, different They brought in fifty some guys.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
You know when it comes to you know, like on
the you know, the defensive you know, I guess like C. J. Nunneley,
you know, has you know, like five sacks he's a
defensive lineman. Charles Korea has you know, he has three sacks,
he's a linebacker. In terms of a name from the
Ohio State past, that I think is is kind of interesting.

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Ryan Turner, the former defensive back who's now at Purdue. Uh.
You know he even you know, he's had moments, you
know in terms of like on blitz packages coming up
with sacks. So I wouldn't say anyone that jumps out.
I just think that, you know, Barry Odom has a
as a reputation as a defensive guy, and I think

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you see marked improvement on that side of the ball
for Purdue, which is kind of like I said, they're
just kind of this a pesky annoyance team that they'll
they'll be able to play with anyone, even you know,
pulling out like any like trick plays or surprises. They'll
be able to play with anyone for about a half.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
All right, it is time for our picks to click
chip and we started on the defensive side of the
ball last week. So let's go offense. Who on the
Buckeye offense would you expect to have a big game
in West Lafayette at ross A Stadium.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
I'm I have to take the free space just simply
because as we were recording this, Ohio State has unveiled
Heisman websites for Julian Saying and Jeremiah Smith. So I'm
gonna go with Jeremiah Smith here.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
All right. In that case, I am going to take
Julian saying, Okay, he's probably been the more free of
the free spaces all year if we go back and
look at the stats. Sure, although it's really you'd be
hard pressed to say that Smith and Tate didn't both
click just about every game this year. So, but I

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think saying we'll do some things, not only with throwing
the ball down the field, he'll keep the chains moving.
I like the wrinkles in the game that we're starting
to see in terms of him being able to scramble,
in terms of him making some decisions when he gets
out on the edge and keeping the ball. I like
Julian saying what he's doing. And this click pick for me,

(52:40):
more than anything, is just to reward Julian Sayan's overall
play this year.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
I am saying, so.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
We'll go to the defensive side of the football and
I'm going to take the free space that would was
like not a free space to start the season but
has become one. And that's rvl Reese. I think he's
going to stop the run and the pas.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yes, I like it.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Who do you like on defense?

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I'm gonna go kind of off the off the grid
here a little bit in the sense of I know
that he doesn't always have like the biggest highlight plays,
but he's he's really emerged for the highest state defense.
I'm going to go with Kate McDonald. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I like the way he's playing in the run game.
He's been amazing. All Right, we've got our picks to
click in there. Do you think we see Lincoln keen
Holes in this game?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I hope we do. I was actually kind of hoping
we'd see him at the end of the Penns game
because the game was decided.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
You hope see him in the fourth quarter, not the
first quarter.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Well, that's exactly, you know, Like I just think that, uh,
you know, you're starting to see you know, for example,
like you know you referenced James People's I think there's
still a an effort by the coaching staff, and I
obviously I agree with you that it was a mistake
to insert CJ. Donaldson the way that they did at

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the end of the first half that led to that turnover.
But I think that they're okay that. I think obviously
they know that CJ. Donaldson his role is primarily, all right,
we need short yardage, we bowline touchdown. Let's let's give
it to C. J. Donaldson. I think that they have
they understand that Bo Jackson is definitely the most explosive

(54:32):
of the running backs. I think they're still trying to
figure out James Peoples. So my point being is, you know,
getting the backups in in the event of are we
need to rest this guy like you know kind of
you know, like the way that they did. I think
they really owe it to themselves to give Lincoln Keenholts
some valuable reps. So hopefully they'll do that against Purdue.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Hopefully they will have the lead to be able to
do that starting in maybe the middle of the third quarter.
That would be nice.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I think they will all right the lead.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
So with that said, let's get your score prediction. I've
written mine down, let's get yours.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Okay, Like I said, I think Purdue will be They
will be pesky, but I don't see them being able
to be as frustrating as they were, you know against Michigan.
I'm going to go Ohio State thirty five Perdue seven.
You know it's not gonna be I think Ohio State

(55:30):
will just kind of let's let's treat this as like
a business trip and be very methodical. It wouldn't surprise
me if like scored more than that. But I just
think Ohio State they're going to treat this game like, Okay,
let's let's go to Purdue, win this game, get players,
backup players, meaningful reps.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
If this game was at Ohio Stadium, I think I'd
be somewhere in the vicinity of like fifty two to six. Okay,
it's in ross aid, so I had written down Again,
we're very very close on how we see things going.
I picked Ohio State thirty eight to thirteen. Okay, so maybe,

(56:10):
you know, maybe a late score against backup defenders, right
kind of thing. But I think Ohio State will. I
think it'll be low scoring first half, Ohio State pulls
away in second half.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, I And you know, as we're recording this, I
couldn't begin to tell you what the weather forecast is like,
you know, like a week out. You know, since in
the Midwest you never know what you're going to get.
You know, It's like it could be it could be
a beautiful day. It could be pouring down, rain, could
be snowing. You could have all those things all in
all in the same day. But right now, I think

(56:42):
the weather forecast is like in the fifties, which is
about normal for this time of year in November. You
know it just if Ohio State wants to focus on
their passing game, you know, to then work on the
running game in the second half, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, all right, Well, we'll come back next week and
we will look at things and see how that went.
Because that's what we do, Chip, We come back and
we review and we look ahead. It's just a never
ending cycle exactly. So you know, after Purdue, you know,
things start to wind down, or its UCLA at home,

(57:18):
Rutgers at home, Michigan on the road. The season's going by.
This is going to mark the three quarters of the
regular season mark when the Purdue game is over.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, And who knows in terms of with the u
c l A game, you know, like the dreaded six
day hold may come into play. You know, like as
we're recording this, we don't know the kickoff time for
u c l A yet, So maybe we'll have a
better understanding in terms of when that game will be

(57:50):
announced in Who's which networking?

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Yeah, all right, Chip, anything else on your mind before
we get out of here.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
No anything to see Ohio State is chugging along, and
let's see them take care of business when they go
on the road to Purdue.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
All right, Chip, remind everybody where they can find you
and your fine work on the internet.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I can be found on Twitter at chip Minik. Last
name is spelled m I N N I c H.
And I'm a contributor to Bucky Huddle dot com as
well as Saturday Glory dot com the Saturday Glory website.
My focus there is more on the Big Ten overall,
whereas obviously I'm in bucke Huddle. It's Ohio State oriented.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Yeah, all right. You can find me on Landgrant holy
Land dot com. Every Monday, Grumpy Old Buckeye column runs
after every Ohio State game, so that means he'll be
a Grumpy Old Buckeye every week the rest of the
regular season because they're no more by weeks. And you
can follow me on the social media's it's at Mike
thirty six fan on both Twitter and Blue Sky. You

(58:53):
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Bullets Pod on Twitter. You can email us as well.
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but you know, Twitter would give us one more stupid
character for the name. We'd be all set and be all,

(59:15):
you know, consistent across the board. But silver Bullets Pod
let's know what's on your mind. Ask a question, We'll
be happy to answer it on the show. That's going
to do it for this week, So Chip, the only
thing left for us to do is to sign off
the way we always do, and that's by saying, go Bucks,
Go Bucks.