Wisconsin Rewind and Big Ten Results

Ohio State went on the road for the second straight week and the Buckeyes did their job again, bringing home a 34-0 shutout victory over the Wisconsin Badgers. There was a time not too long ago when a win by that score on the road would have been considered an amazing accomplishment, but with the Badgers’ fortunes the last couple of years, it left some OSU fans wanting more.

A shutout in college football against a power conference team on the road isn’t easy, so kudos to Matt Patricia’s defense. Ohio State’s offense stopped itself a few times, and Wisconsin hung tough for a while against the run, but ultimately the game ended up being a comfortable road victory for the men of the Scarlet & Gray.

We discussed the key moments, plays, and players in the game, checked on our final score predictions, and perused the stats page to see if we picked the right players to click on Saturday. We went a combined three out of four, so not too bad.

Following our Wisconsin rewind, we looked around the rest of the Big Ten to see how other teams made out in Week 8. Penn State lost a tight one at Iowa in the Nittany Lions’ first game in the post-James Franklin era. It was not an aerial battle, with both teams doing damage on the ground. Minnesota, Indiana, Oregon, and Northwestern had comfortable wins. Michigan pulled away from Washington in the second half, UCLA nipped Maryland to keep the Bruins’ resurgent run going, and USC lost on the road to a non-conference rival.

We also looked ahead to a great slate of games during Ohio State’s second bye week of the 2025 season. There is plenty of intrigue in Illinois at Washington and Minnesota at Iowa, while the two teams from the Mitten State play for the Paul Bunyan Trophy. Nebraska looks to bounce back against Northwestern. Rutgers faces a must-win situation to keep bowl eligibility on the table, while Wisconsin seems primed to suffer another beatdown. UCLA is going to have to raise its level to get past Indiana on the road.

Without an Ohio State game to preview, that’s our show. We spent a little more time on the other games around the Big Ten this week, so you’re definitely not getting short-changed. We’ll be back next week to preview Penn State and check on the bye week Big Ten fallout.

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0:20 - The Buckeyes were better than the Badgers, and Julian Sayin continues to be good at football.

22:07 - The Big Ten was full of interesting games, especially that Penn State-Iowa tussle at Kinnick Stadium. We also have a lot of intriguing games that will have us flipping between multiple channels on Saturday.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Logan, everybody, it is time for another episode of the
Silver Bullets podcast. I'm Michael Citrow, I'm chip Minnick Chip.
The Buckeyes are now seven and zer and continue to
pile up the wins this season. After a thirty four
nothing victory at Wisconsin, there was a time when that
would have been an amazing lopsided victory, and now it

(00:43):
seems like people just think, well, thirty four now, I
guess that's okay, but maybe it should have been more.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It could have been more. And as you just said, Michael,
there was a time when an Ohio State Wisconsin game
was a clash of the Titans. And how poorly was
kind and has fallen down the Big ten food chain.
I mean, they're just really suffering and I kind of
had a loss for words in terms of what that

(01:10):
program is currently going through.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Aside from Wisconsin's run defense, this was a no contest
in basically every facet of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
I completely agree. I mean, it was pretty much they
were all but waving the white flag from the moment
the game started.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, with one very feisty exception, which we'll talk about,
but thirty four nothing means that you again were closest
on the score prediction thirty five to three is what
you had. I had thirty eight to three. We were
very similar in this prediction. But Jaden fielding just continues

(01:50):
to cost me wins.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I'm sure it's not intentional.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I was feeling personal at this point because that field
goal changes the math and then I I'm the winner.
So maybe don't miss really makeable short field.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Goals, very very important point.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
It's just to me, this is part and parcel of
an Ohio State, part of the team that continues to
lag behind the rest of the team that's playing at
a national championship level. The special teams for this Ohio
State group is not where it needs to be to
be in line with what the offense and defense are doing.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, so it goes obviously, it goes beyond a couple
of missed field goals. There are the kickoff returns. There's
a special teams play we'll talk about in this particular game.
There is the punting, which has not been up to
the normal standards. And if you had flipped the special teams,
Wisconsin's punter on Ohio State would have looked pretty good.

(02:53):
On Saturday that's true, all right, so we'll get into
it again. Congrats to you be in a few points
closer than I was to predicting final score, and actually
very very close. Thirty four is about as close as
you can get to thirty five without, you know, without
hitting it exactly. And of course Nebraska had an opportunity
in the fourth quarter if they wanted to kick a

(03:15):
field goal, they could have exactly. I decided to go
for it on fourth down. Ohio State got the stop
and got the shutout. So congratulations to Matt Patricia who
is defense. The points against average went up at Illinois
and it went back down against Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, I mean, very impressive performance by the defense. I mean,
I've said this before. Ohio State fans are spoiled, so
don't consider this to be the norm, you know, when
it comes to Ohio State football. This is certainly a
generational type performance by the o higot A defense.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Bluck guys came out, got a stop and then went
down the field and had to overcome a penalty on
the opening but did that and did it because Julian
saying was very very accurate in this game, especially early
hit his ten first ten passes in a row, and

(04:12):
one of those was a thirty three yard shot down
the middle to Carneal Tait, capping a nine play eighty
nine yard drive, and Julian's saying, if people aren't talking
about him in the Heisman conversation, then they're really not
paying attention to what he's doing, because you can't throw
a football better than he threw it. On that play,

(04:33):
he threw it into double coverage, knowing that he was
his throat was going to beat the safety who was
cheating over towards Jeremiah Smith. He was going to be
able to get it before the safety arrived. But the
coverage was good, and Carnal Tate is Carnell Tate, so
he went up and got it and caught it in
traffic and made a great catch. In fact, lost his
helmet in the process, but hang he hung on and

(04:53):
it was seven to nothing.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah. Very impressive performance by both Julian Saying and Carnel Tate.
I think Colonel Tait, if he wasn't already familiar to
people outside of Ohio State fandom, that kind of a
performance that he displayed, not only with that catch but
overall that he's had this season. I think he's certainly
warranting all American status with the kind of games that

(05:17):
he's putting up.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, Buck, guy's got another stop. This one, I think
was the drive where the ball got into the body
of the I forget it was a back or a
fullback or a tight end, but it got into his body,
hit his shoulder pad, flew up in the air, and
Sonny Styles picked it off.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
That was I'm happy that Sunny Styles was in the
right place at the right time, I said to my wife,
And maybe you have a different opinion. It's one of
these things where I genuinely I feel sorry not just
for Wisconsin's quarterback, but any quarterback where Okay, that's marked
as an interception when the reality is like it, I
mean it was it did go off the the intended receiver.

(05:55):
I mean just kind of like you said, you know,
the fact that it went off, you know, into the
air and Sunny Styles was there to capitalize. But yeah,
you know, I'm happy to see that Sunny Styles is
Johnny on the spot.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
It's one of those things where if you're if your
team's having a bad season, that's the kind of thing
that happens the you know, ball goes through the receiver's
hands and hits him in the shoulder pads, and it's
a you know, it was a good throw. The play
was there, it was open, it was going to gain
some yards, and instead it's a turnover, and Ohio State
kicks a field goal and makes it ten nothing as
the drive bogs down with the perfect brad nessler uh

(06:31):
perfectly timed, perfectly executed Jinks by saying Julian saying, was
perfect right before the snap on which he threw his
first incomplete pass, and then a couple of days later
they had to kick the field goal.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah, it always seems to happen, doesn't it, Like like,
you know, like he said, the perfectly timed thing, and
then the next thing, you know what they were just
praising you about, turns into the complete opposite.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, a little bit underthrown looking for his receiver in
the end on that one, but ten nothing was the
score at that point. And then the Buckeyes get another
touchdown before the end of the first quarter, another carneval
Tate touchdown, ten yards, this time seventeen nothing the score
at the end of the first quarter, and in fact,

(07:18):
that was the score at the end of the half
because Ohio State I felt like got some little bit
of self inflicted wounds a couple of times with some drives.
They weren't able to run the football. Some of the
play calling was a little weird and off. I remember
there was a third and seven play I think they
got bailed out by a penalty. It was a third

(07:39):
and seven play. They decided to run to the short
side of the field when they were not having any
real success running the football. That was a very weird call.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yeah, I mean, I would agree with you. Some of
the play calling was kind of kind of confusing, But
like you said, you know, seventeen nothing, they were completely
in control at that point.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah. So I know a lot of people were a
little unhappy with the way the offense bogged down in
the middle part of the game. But I felt like
it seemed like Ryan Day and the coaching staff went,
we have this thing that we've been doing whenever we
want it, let's work on some.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Other things exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
So they still need to keep working on those other things. Yeah,
it appears, but hey, that's what these games are for.
So seventeen to nothing at the half of the second quarter,
I think the missed field goal came in that quarter,
and I went to the third quarter where Ohio stages
continued to dominate. Came out then did have to end

(08:39):
up kicking a field goal in the first drive of
the second half after a long drive they were they
used up more than six minutes on the clock, but
the drive bogged down in the I don't think they
quite made it to the red zone. Maybe they made
it to the outskirts of the red zone, but they
end up kicking a thirty seven yard field goal. I
guess that makes it to the twenty and it's to nothing.

(09:01):
And then I thought one of my favorite plays in
the game, where you thought they're just gonna bang CJ.
Donaldson up the middle for try to get the two yards,
they faked the handoff and used the pop pass to
Will Cosmerica in the end zone and it made it
twenty seven to nothing. I liked that play a lot.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, I'm also happy for Will chasmeric because he's an
effective receiver, but most of the time I'm sure he
would freely admit, you know, he's usually used as a blocker.
So for him to be able to capitalize with a touchdown,
I thought that was great.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
And then in the fourth quarter they attack on another touchdown,
a thirteen yard pass to Brandon Innes, and the victory
is thirty four nothing and no touchdowns for Jeremiah Smith
in this game.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
It was not for a lack of effort, I think
in terms of like trying to get him involved, I'll
say that much. I just think it was just the
way that things kind of work out.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's not like he had a bad game. Nine catches
for ninety seven yards. They didn't go deep to him
a lot, but they, you know they I think there
was one drive, maybe it was the first drive of
the second half, where they threw to him like three
or four times in a row.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah, I think you're right, Tate.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
With six catches, one hundred and eleven yards, two touchdowns,
and a chip, I'm I'm happy to say he was
my pick to click offensively.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, very very wise selection.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Your pick to click offensively was C. J. Donaldson, who
carried the ball two times for twelve yards. I think
he lost yards on one and then picked up thirteen
yards on the other one.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yeah, when we go through the stats, I'll freely admit, yeah,
like he didn't click, but I definitely think that there's
somebody else who's starting to emerge on the offense. So
when we go through, when we go through the stats
of kind of point him out.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Well. CJ also had the three catches for twenty six yards.
Who was a little more noticeable in the passing game in
this game, but we are in the stats segment, chip
as Julians say, and went thirty six of forty two
for three hundred and ninety three yards, four touchdowns, did
take one sack this week. Just incredible numbers as he

(11:23):
is essentially a freshman and has been lighting up defenses
all season.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, very impressive.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
I believe the person you want to talk about is
one Isaiah West, who should just change his name to
Isaiah North South because he had nine carries for fifty
five yards. He looked the best of all the backs
in this game.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, and let's not forget I mean, we're still not
sure the extent of bo Jackson's injury. You know, I
think that Bo Jackson, you know, certainly, you know, like
you said, the running game overall, you know, was not
very impressive. But yeah, Isaiah West is certainly one of
these guys that if you had asked me at the

(12:05):
beginning of the season of the running backs. All Right,
you know what kind of a role is Isaiah West
going to have? I probably would have said, oh, he'll
he'll probably play garbage time, He'll probably, you know, red
shirt all these kind of things. He's played enough now
that he's not going to red shirt. And I agree
with you, Michael. I think that he had a very

(12:26):
impressive performance out of all the running backs yesterday at Wisconsin.
So it's going to be interesting to see what kind
of a role he's going to have going forward.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah, Bo Jackson, we know he had is ankle wrapped
a couple of times in the Illinois game. Did not
look as explosive. Ten carries for twenty six yards, and
also they didn't really block very well for him. He
was hitting the backfield a lot. I feel like there
were a couple of offensive linemen that struggled in this game.
Most it was and they took kind of took turns.
But I think most notably tegrashabol at a tough game.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, there's a lot of social media posts that maybe
it might be time to give Josh Padilla. I'm not
saying give that. That's a four choice of words that
maybe Josh Padilla has earned the starting guard position in
place of Tigrishabola, so it'll be interesting to see after
the bye week if Tiger is still in the starting lineup.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, and Bo Jackson five catches for fifty seven yards,
which I really like when Ohio State uses the running
back the way they used to use JK. Dobbins and others.
Is that, look, even if we aren't doing a good
job of opening holes, our running back is going to
get the ball in space and hurt you. Trevon Henderson
did the same thing exactly, So those are the big,

(13:43):
big stat guys in the game. Also, we saw a
little bit more of Quincy Porter than we normally do.
Two catches for thirty yards, including a twenty two yard
or so. He looked pretty good.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah, Quincy Porter is one of those guys that he
was certainly turning heads in the spring. And it's just
such a talented wide receiver room that I'm not saying
that he wasn't going to get opportunities, but kind of
what I was just saying with regards to Isaiah West
that it's nice to see that Ohio State is giving
the true freshman like Quincy Porter an opportunity to perform,

(14:17):
and they're capitalizing on those opportunities when they're presented.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
All right, Chip, before we get to the defensive picks
to click and talk about the defensive stats a little bit.
Did want to mention Brandon Innis scored the final touchdown
for Ohio State and that gave us the thirty four
nothing final score. So a decent game for Brandon Innis.
Got to score the touchdown, played a lot of snaps

(14:46):
as the Buckeyes went to more eleven personnel in this game,
especially in a running game, and had a couple of
decent punt returns. So a little bit better from Brandon Innis.
But I still think it's fair to say, Buck Guy,
fans would like to see more.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I'm sure they would. I definitely think that, Like you said,
I think they're starting to go more towards had eleven personnel,
and I think this is just a sign of things
to come.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, but it's nice to see at least an eighteen
yard punt return and another decent one set of all
the fair catches and the running backwards.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
And all that stuff exactly.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
All right, let's get to the defensive picks to click.
You had Sunny Styles. I got already tell you what
that interception, He's already clicked and I had Caleb Downs
and Chip. I'm sure this will not come as a
surprise to you, probably not to our listeners when I
say that Caleb Downs was the leading tackler for the

(15:48):
team with six tackles, all solos. So he clicked.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, without a doubt, there aren't enough superlatives to bestow
upon Caleb Downs. I think he definitely has shown his worth,
not only this season but the previous one. And if anything,
Ohio State fans need to really enjoy what they have
because we only have about half the season remaining of

(16:14):
Caleb Downson button Ohio State uniform.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Sunny Styles only had two tackles, both were solo, but
one was a tackle for loss, and he also had
an interception. The linebackers were certainly even when they didn't
make the plays, they were certainly involved in helping create
the plays.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah. One of the one of the bond memories I
have of this game is Sunny Styles. Actually, as he
approached Wisconsin running back, the running back, instead of challenging
Sunny Styles just fell to the ground, you know. So
it was kind of like, Okay, that was kind of
what they I guess within you know, like the lexicon

(16:54):
is like that's a business decision. That was Yeah, so
you know, I thought that was kind of humor. But yeah,
Sunny Styles, the stats weren't with the exception obviously of
the interception, weren't dominating, but I mean he's certainly showing
his worth to h S defense.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah. I tweeted about that when happened. I was like, yeah,
I said, if Sonny Styles was running at me like that,
I would lay down too exactly. Yeah, that's uh, that's
what I would do. It was it was a good decision,
I said. My exact words were good decisions. Seven. I
too completely, I too completely capitulated Sunny Styles was running. Well, well,

(17:36):
does he get a tackle for that? Technically, I don't
even know.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
That's a really good question. I really don't. I really
don't that that that brings up some interesting points.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
So he had another play that he made, even if
you didn't get credit for the tackle, but uh, a
comprehensive win over Wisconsin, and it could have been more
lopsided again, a miss field goal and stuff. But let's
talk about a play in that game that you know me,
I got the grumpy old Buckeye call him every Monday
after a game. You know this is going in it.

(18:09):
You know this would be in it, and that is
Wisconsin has chipped a fourth and nineteen at their own
sixteen yard line, and then you and I talked about
how at some point Fickle was going to pull out
a trick play, and he decided on fourth and nineteen
at his own sixteen he wasn't going to give the
ball back, and he fake punts it and for whatever reason,

(18:38):
a complete failure to make a tackle against a slow
moving Sean West. I mean he was barely moving and
just an absolute terrible tackle attempt by Roker the sophomore.

(18:58):
And hope that they run that play about fifty times
in film room.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I have no doubt that Lee Roy Roker is going
to be ridiculed by his teammates and shoot out by
the coaches. I'm not excusing it. I'm just surmising that
maybe the people on the punt team thought there's no

(19:25):
way he's going to run a fake punt this deep
in their territory, you know what I mean, Like if
it doesn't work, like okay, they're handing the ball over
to us at the sixteen yard line. Kind of a thing.
I'm not excusing it. I'm just saying that that might
have been the rational that they might have collectively have had.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Right well, they clearly weren't ready for it. Sure, even
not being ready for it, Like Leroy Roker the third
had a chance to stop that for about a fifteen
yard game. Just tackle the punter. Man, you're a defensive back,
go tackle a punter. Like, we're not asking you to
get a you know, a two, one hundred and sixty
five pound running back going full speed. We're asking you

(20:04):
to The punter actually wanted to be tackled. He like
he was barely moving. He was like, oh my god,
there's a person here. And then he just kind of
took a slide step to the left and just a
whiff of a tackle and he ends up picking up
twenty when he needed nineteen.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, Leroy Roker, like I said, he's gonna be He's
gonna be hearing about that for the foreseeable future.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh Ohio State special teams. Everybody. The one area, as
we mentioned earlier in the show, one area that is
not on par with the offense and defense, duly noted
Brian Day always says, you know, you've got to play
well in all three phases. Well, that's that's the phase

(20:47):
that needs to work, Ryan. Whether it's yeah, whether it's
a forty yard punt or not tackling a punter, or
not returning punts or not returning kickoffs spectacularly, these are
the areas that need to work. And we see other teams,

(21:07):
even teams that aren't very good, still have tremendous special
teams play at times. Wisconsin's punter was amazing.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, that was kind of courtuitive balance, but I would agree.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Me it was routinely throwing in their fifty five and
sixty yard punts. So anyway, no need to beat the
dead horse. We both had clicks on defense and I
had a click on offense. You had did not click
on offense because mainly because C. J. Donaldson just didn't
get the opportunities. Yep, all right, well that's it for

(21:42):
the Wisconsin game. Of course, Ohio State has a bye week,
so why don't we take a quick break chip, we'll
come back, we'll talk about what happened around the rest
of the Big Ten, and we'll look ahead to this
weekend's games without Ohio State playing. We'll do all those
things right after this. All right, Chip, we are back.

(22:07):
Did you get a chance to watch some of the
other games this weekend?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
A few of them, not all of them?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
All right? Well, around the Big Ten it started again
on Friday, and this time it was Nebraska going to
Minnesota and it was the Gophers coming up with a
twenty four to six victory over the corn Huskers. That
corn Huskers had finally gotten ranked again. It came in
at number twenty five, but they got after Dylan Rayola

(22:34):
nine sacks.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Chip, Yeah, Matt Ruhle's not happy about the performance of
his team, nor should he be, you know, like you said,
Nebraska's finally back ranked, and then they just completely laid
an egg on national television on Friday night. So Nebraska
certainly is not ready to be back in the spotlight.

(22:57):
And give credit to Minnesota, I mean, still scrapping and
battling there more than likely not going to be a
factor in the Big Ten conference race, but they're going
to be if they can. If they continue to play well,
they might be a factor in the College Football Playoff.
They could be.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
It's possible. Sitting there at five and two on the season,
three and one in the Big Ten. Nebraska falls to
five and two at two and two in the Big Ten,
and then we go into Saturday's games. We already talked
about the Buckeyes beating Wisconsin badly. Michigan State hung around
for a while against Indiana, but Indiana ends up winning

(23:37):
thirty eight to thirteen. Indiana keeps pace with Ohio State
seven and four and oh and Big Ten play. Michigan
State falls to three and four oh and four in
Big Ten play. In Indiana chip highest ranked the Hoosiers
have ever been as they climbed to number two in
the country.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Congratulations to Kurt Signetti. He signed that long term contract extension.
He has publicly declared he wants to retire as a Hoosier.
His team is playing well. It looks like Indiana is
pretty much on a on a I don't want to
say a collision course with Ohio State. I don't want
to be so presumptuous, but I think Indiana is definitely

(24:17):
making their move to be in the Big Ten championship game,
barring something unforeseen.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I heard a very loud groan coming from a happy
valley at the news of that contract extension.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
I never expected. I I I just thought that was foolishness. Personally,
I thought, you know, like everyone that was that was saying, oh,
he's going to go to Penn State. I understood that
the logic of the fact that the guy is from Pennsylvania.
But I mean, if you take a step back and
I realized Penn State fans aren't going to do that.
It's what is what does Penn State have to offer

(24:54):
that he can't get it Indiana without having to recreate
everything from you know, from scratch. So I just think,
you know, it's a smart business decision by Signetti, and
I think Penn State is going to need to kind
of you know, lower their lower their sites. I think that,
you know, like I realize Penn State fans have a

(25:14):
very high, a very high impression of that that job.
But I mean it's it's not going to be as
coveted as I think Penn State fans believe it will be.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, I think that they still feel that they are
one of the premier jobs in the country, one of
the premier schools, one of the premier blue bloods, and
so they do set their sites high. I don't think
they're delusional like the way Tennessee fans maybe are. But
I do think that they felt like if they wanted
signetti that they could get them because Penn State's the

(25:48):
bigger brand.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Right mhmm, well yeah, I mean history also have.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
You also see what just happened to James Franklin. You
have the pressure that if you if you lose that
one big game every year, then everybody's always on you.
He doesn't have that pressure. In Indiana. They already are
ready to build a statue.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
To him, right, That's exactly it. And I just think, yeah,
Penn State, uh, you know, you know, all credit to
what what the tradition that Joe Paterno built over a
fifty year you know period. Uh, And I get it.
I understand why Penn State fans believe that that's a

(26:28):
coveted job. But I mean there are there are some
drawbacks to it, and I think that Penn State fans
are going to have to realize that, Like you just said, Michael,
I think that the pressure of it is not going
to necessarily be you know, one of the positives you know,
so to speak. It's it's one like if if you

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can get fired for going ten and two. That's that's
kind of a you know, a tough job to be
attracted to.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
In my opinion, I always felt like, if you know,
if I would lose three if I were coach, I
lose three games a year and they'd keep me forever
and I can coach at Hawaii, that's a pretty good
gig to have.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Well now, yeah, again, a little different, a little different
set of circumstances than sure.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
But anyway, Yeah, Indiana is cruising right now and it's
kind of really up to the Buckeyes. If the Buckeyes
can keep focused, there's no reason in Ohio State won't
be the team meeting Indiana in the Big Ten Championship game.
Although there's a lot of football to be played.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
A lot of football to be played.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
You would not want to be Rutgers this week after
Oregon lost at home, because you saw what happened. Oregon
came into New Jersey and won by forty six points,
fifty six to ten, taking out all their frustration on
the Scarlet Knights.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, the idea that maybe you know that we were
just talking about Penn State, that Oregon would have a
similar kind of a letdown that Pennsate experienced after Oregon
beat them at home. Oregon did not you know, the
cross country travel did not seem to bother the Ducks,
and they took it out on Rutgers. And I feel

(28:15):
for Rutgers because we always joke about it, but it's
the reality is It's like, when you think about their schedule,
getting to six wins is really it was a challenging
schedule and it's like these kind of games just just
add to that misery.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, I think I think that ship has sailed. They're
now three and four, zero and four in Big Ten play.
Oregon is six and one, three and one in the
Big Ten, so they stay alive for a Big Ten
championship game. Birth USC played out of conference and lost
to Notre Dame on the road thirty four to twenty four.

(28:52):
Just too much, Jeremiah Love. The Trojans, who I thought
would struggle to shut down Michigan's run game, Uh didn't,
but they definitely struggled to shut down Notre Dame's run game.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah. That that's the kind of you when you think
that USC might have turned the corner, Like you said,
Jeremiah Love had a great game. USC hung tough for
a while like in the fourth quarter, it was kind
of back and forth and then USC faded down the stretch.
So the margin for error for USC has been pretty

(29:27):
much eliminated. Like they they have two losses. Ranted, they
are still technically, you know, like there's there's always the
possibility that USC can you can win out, you know,
be a factor in the Big Ten Conference race. But
when you start talking about the Coach Football Playoff with
those two losses, considering they still have games against Oregon

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against u c l A, you know that it's it's
going to be a tough thing for USC to be
in the coachge Football Playoff conversation. And then for Notre
Dame what we talked about last week, Notre Dame, they
needed this win and Notre Dame's remaining schedule isn't nearly
as daunting the Notre Dame. They're looking pretty impressive and

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they look like they might be going back to the
college Football Playoff if they can win out the remainder
of their games.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
They look like they're going to be in the playoff.
And like I said last week, if I felt like
if they lost to USC and got a third loss,
because I expect USC to lose another game at some point,
probably the Oregon game. I didn't feel like that would
look good for Notre Dame's resume. So now they get
to say they beat a ranked USC team and only
have two losses. USC is five and two overall. But

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this was not a conference game. I thought that Michigan
would win against Washington, but I expected a close game.
But it turns out it was not that close. Twenty
four to seven was the final. I know that it
was seven to seven at the half, but Washington not
very good in the second half. They turned the ball
over a lot. And they're vaunted quarterback. I felt like

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missed a lot of rows in this game and missed
some wide open guys that you know, like just didn't
see them.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, Washington, the two turnovers, Uh definitely played a factor.
And as far as Michigan goes, I mean, it's one
of these things where they need to I mean, they
already have the two losses. So like when we you know,
I realized, you know, you talk about the non conference
loss to Oklahoma. We just mentioned it. With USC. They

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know full well that they have to win out, you know,
like Washington. Their margin for error has been eliminated because
they have the loss of Ohio State, they have a
loss of Michigan, so they have a season ending game
versus Oregon. They have an upcoming game against Illinois, so
Washington might be now kind of playing the role of
spoiler within the Big Ten. So yeah, it should it

(31:51):
should be interesting.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, I think Washington's improved this year, but I still
think they're a year away, maybe two. I think they're
they're rebuilding that program under Jetfish, but I don't think
they're where they need to be yet. They were not
physical enough in this game and it showed. And Bryce Underwood,
I'll give him credit, he had his probably his best
game so far.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah, he's he's definitely improving. Should be interesting to see
how he does his coming weekend when they go on
the road to Michigan State.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
So both teams are five and two. Washington fell to
two and two in the Big Ten of Michigan's three
and one, so they're still still in the hunt for
the Big Ten title game, so possibility. You and I
both thought Purdue had a decent chance of going to
Northwestern getting to win, But man, what were we thinking?
Because the Wildcats win this one. Nineteen nothing.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I'll say this much, David Brown, give credit where credit
is due. You know, it's kind of almost like, you
know Pat Fitzgerald, you know, he was always it was
always like whenever you thought under Pat Fitzgerald that the
Northwestern would be good, they would be bad. And you know,
it just seemed like now it's been a continuation, different coach,

(33:01):
same kind of a program with Northwestern. David Brown has
Northwestern at five and two. The fact that they only
have the one conference loss is impressive, So credit to Northwestern. Perdue. Yeah,
I would say this is probably the most disappointing loss
so far in the Barry Odom tenure, simply because Perdue.

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Even in other games where I thought that Perdue would lose,
they were competitive, they were not in this game. And unfortunately,
I think Ryan Brown is injured, so he's probably doubtful
for this upcoming week, which just means worse things for Purdue.
But yeah, give credit to Northwestern. I think that they're
playing really well and they're on the doorstep of getting

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a bowl game eligibility.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Five and two and three and one in the Big Ten,
they are technically still in the Big Ten hunt technically
to the time being, I mean, they've already won more
games than I thought.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
They would win, certainly exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Purdue to in five, Zho to four in the Big TEB.
But again, you're right, this was They've had games where
you thought they'd get blown out and they've hung around.
This was a game you thought they had a chance
to win and they they were never in it. It
just didn't Yeah, they were down thirteen to nothing at
the half, exactly. And if I'm sorry, I know Northwestern
they play hard, they got a decent defense, but if

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you can't score a single point on them, what are
you doing? What are you doing? Penn State and Iowa
was a very good game.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Chip, Yeah, that was kind of what I was on
Saturday night. You were asking earlier at the onset of
this portion of the podcast, what I was, you know,
which games I watched? I was kind of flipping back
and forth on Peacock between Notre Name USC and this
Iowa Penn State game. And give a lot of credit

(34:53):
to Penn State, you know, considering the tumultuous week they had,
it looked for a while like Penn State was going
to do it and then it just kind of collapsed
in the in the final moments. I was happy for
Mark Ronowski. He had a really good game, probably surprisingly

(35:14):
to Penn State and Jim Knowles the fact that he
did a lot of damage on the ground which really hurt.
But yeah, like Iowa, many many a team, Penn State
especially has gone to Kinnick Stadium at night and whatever
kind of voodoo exists has fallen have fallen susceptible to that.

(35:36):
So Iowa, Yeah, with the one point win, they pretty much,
you know, I don't want to say spoiled Penn State season.
I think that already happened, but they spoiled that. They
already they spoiled a valiant effort by Terry Smiths as
the interim head coach in his debut in that role.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
The final score is twenty five to twenty four, Markowski
with a long run to set up the winning score there.
And this was not a game for passing enthusiasts. I mean,
Ethan Grunkemeyer was fifteen of twenty eight for ninety three

(36:18):
yards and two interceptions for Penn State in his first
start in place with Drew Aller the injured Drew Aller,
and he's not gonna have much of an easier time
than when he comes to Columbus the week after.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Next No, he well, that was that was just a
tough I mean, I would think that that would be
a tough assignment for anyone simply because Phil Parker is
one of the best defensive coordinators in college football. Then
you Okay, let's let's kind of add to your misery.
You know, let's let's let the Iowa fans get themselves.

(37:00):
Let's just say into a proper state of mind, you know,
after tailgating all day, you know, so it I mean,
it was it was a rough situation. The fact that
they came up a point short. You know, I think
Ethan Grunkhmeier. Now they've got a bye week, maybe they
can work on some things. But I agree with you.
I think it's going to be rough slooting for him

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when Penn State comes to town against Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
From when I saw a chip, I would I would
approach that Penn State game defensively if I'm Matt Patricia,
the way that they approached the Texas game to some extent,
but the certainly the Washington game. In the Illinois game,
keep Grunkameyer in the pocket. He's not going to kill you.
But if he gets outside, he can hurt you. Keep

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him in there and then try to eventually collapse that pocket,
but maintain your lanes. I think that's the way to go.
Your secondary is good, got good linebackers. Maybe keep Arvel
Reese as a spy in case he leaks out. But
I think if Ohio State stops the run, and I
know k Tron Allen had a big game one hundred
and forty five yards and two touchdowns against a good

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Iowa defense, I think Ohio State's defense is better. Yeah, precisely,
all right, So Penn State falls to three and four
on the season, zero to four and Big Ten play,
that's at least it's probably three more losses than I
thought they'd have in Big Ten play, oh certainly, without question.
And Iowa was five and two, three and one, and
Iowa remains in the hunt in the Big Ten. And again,

(38:33):
Iowa just figures out ways to get it done. And
I didn't think they particularly played great Iowa defense in
this game, because I wouldn't have expected a team that
can't throw the ball to be able to run like
Penn State did against that good Iowa front. But Penn
State ran the ball well.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah, I mean, it was, like I said, it was
an entertaining game.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
And then finally, Chip, Ucla just keeps rolling man twenty
to seventeen win at home over Maryland. Had had to
score outscore the Terps thirteen to seven in the fourth
quarter to get it done. But they are three and
one in Big Ten Play, three and four overall. With
the three straight wins, and Maryland drops to four and three,

(39:19):
one and three in Big Ten Play October, Maryland is
fully back. Chip.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Yeah, I feel I genuinely feel sorry for Maryland fans
simply because this is a third straight last I mean,
like snatching, snatching defeat from the from the jaws of
victory kind of experience from Maryland. And as far as Ucla,
the you know, the good vibes, you know, just keep

(39:46):
coming because you know Ucla. I had the opportunity to
kind of watch on FS one, you know, kind of
the abbreviated version, like the you know, almost like the
sixty minute type version, and watching it the fact that
you know, Maryland tied it up seventeen, you know, so
it's looking like overtime, and then UCLA had this really

(40:07):
long run that put them in field goal position, you know,
with only seconds remaining, and you know, so credit to
UCLA for for just completely turning their season around. Now,
I think I think things are going to come back
down to earth this coming weekend. But that's that's okay.
I think that that. You know, as far as Maryland,

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they've got to try and figure out something to try
and salvage this season.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, and I want to point out to Chip that
the thirty four to nothing win that some not not
a lot, but some Buckeye fans were griping about. When
you see what happens around college football, take that thirty
four to nothing and run. Oh yeah, LSU lost, Texas
only beat Kentucky in overtime because Kentucky went for a

(40:55):
touchdown and overtime on fourth and goal and didn't get it.
And well, Clemson lost again, Florida State lost again.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
In fact, Florida State went to Stanford and lost, and
Florida beat Mississippi State and it was Florida that fired
their coach, not Florida State.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Must be nice to have this this I guess reservoir
or money to pay these coaches. That's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, well, it appears the Seminoles were sticking with
Mike Norvello. He wasn't the Normville fired, but a different,
different norvel got fired. Jay Norvelle.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah yeah, I mean that one was kind of surprising too.
No disrespected to Jay norvel I mean Colorado State. I
guess you're you're thinking, oh, like, this is certainly a
job that we can do better, And okay, that's fine.
You know, it's not like Jay Dorvell. I mean, I

(41:54):
realized they're not having the season they want, But okay,
you really think you're gonna you know, it improved dramatically,
you know, I have at it.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
I mean perennial power Colorado State.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
All right, let's turn our attention to this weekend, because
it's another good college football weekend and you already alluded
to it. There's no Friday game this week in the
Big Ten, but the Saturday.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Noon game.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
U c l A visiting Indiana the resurgent Bruins. And
I tell you one thing, if the Bruins win this game,
I will I will think they're for real.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, it's not so much a question of I mean,
for my for me, it's not a question of you know,
like real or false. It's more of just competitive you know,
and I think UCLA has shown that they, you know,
with what they have done, Like the Penn State game,
I'll freely admit I think that was more of Okay,
I'll freely admit I thought that was just kind of

(42:57):
more of a fluke that UCLA did outplay Penn State.
But Penn State, I just thought they were still sulking
and that was kind of the bulk of where that,
you know, and then you know what UCLA has been doing,
I think that they have shown no like this, this
team is certainly playing much better than they they demonstrated
at the beginning of the season going to Indiana. Going

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to Indiana, Kurt Signetti, to his credit, said, Okay, that's it.
Like in his mind, he's like that's a three and
zero team, Like he's he is not overlooking them. So
if UCLA comes out slugs Indiana and the Chops gets
an early lead, that's where I'm going to be like, wow,

(43:41):
you know, like kind of sit up and take notice, because,
like I said earlier later on UCLA, I mean, they
could I think they have it within him possibly to
be able to beat usc uh. You know, so that's
it's gonna be worthwhile watching I think on Fox.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Yeah, I think that the thing that impresses me about
UCLA the most of it the last two weeks and
again that you know that it's not like they've played
the best teams, but they've held each of their last
two opponents under twenty points. That's not something UCLA had
been doing. They had been out scoring teams, or they
had been scoring points even in their losses, but then
they just put a ton of points on the board
against Penn State.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
So I will I will watch this game and I
will hope to be entertained by it.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah, I'm sure you will be. I have every doubt.
I have no doubt that that you know, points will
be scored. I'm a big uh, A big fan of
Branana Mendoza at quarterback for Indiana. I like what nico
Ima Lava has demonstrated with the resurgence of UCLA. So

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I think it's gonna be an entertaining game.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Yeah. I don't think that Indiana will in the end
struggle and they'll pull away. But if this game was
at UCLA, I would feel a little bit more. We're
worried if I were an Indiana fan. Yeah, that makes
sense Northwestern will go to Nebraska. Chip can Northwestern go
to four and one in the Big Ten?

Speaker 2 (45:09):
They can, now, I don't think they will. I'm gonna
give it. I'm gonna my prediction right now is I'm
going to go with Nebraska simply because I mean, Matt
Ruhle was breathing fire, you know, in you know, in
in recounting you know, what happened to his team against Minnesota.
I'm sure that there were a lot of you know,

(45:31):
a lot of profanities in the in the locker room,
you know, post game, you know, just because I think that,
you know, I think, not only towards its players, he
kind of he kind of threw his coaching staff under
the bus, like kind of like, you know, like my
guys were saying, like I don't know why you're like
so worried or whatever. So I think Nebraska. I'm not

(45:52):
suggesting they're going to blow out Northwestern, but I think
Nebraska will do it.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
I think so too. I think that having that game
in Lincoln is very very helpful for the Huskers, and
coming off that loss, they're going to be looking to
come out swinging, and I think that's not a good
recipe for a Northwestern team that I'm not sure how
they have the record they have, Yeah, Smokaneers. Speaking of which,

(46:18):
Rutgers goes to Purdue and Chip. If Rutgers doesn't win
this game, they are not getting bowl eligible this year.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
No, And I feel I genuinely feel sorry for Purdue
in the sense that this was a game that prior
to last week, I would have said, Okay, Purdue is
going to win this, but then the word is like
Ryan Brown at quarterback for the boiler Makers, He's doubtful.
So not that I think Rutgers isn't some kind of
defensive juggernaut. I just think that Rutgers. I just think

(46:47):
that they offensively are going to have more than enough
against Purdue. And I think with a I don't want
to say inexperienced quarterback, but you know, I just think
that Rutgers just I think they we'll have an offen.
Just looking at the ticket prices, if you can scrape
up eight dollars, that'll get you into Ross Stadium party, dude,

(47:10):
what I see?

Speaker 1 (47:10):
But you have to go to West Lafayet.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah that's true, that's true.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
So yeah, Rutgers is they have to win this game,
and then I think the only game left on their
schedule they can win is Maryland. They have to win
this game in the Maryland game to get Bowl eligible
because I don't see them. I don't see them winning
at Illinois. I don't see them winning at Ohio State,
and I don't see them winning at home against Penn State.

(47:35):
Although Penn State has been pretty bad this year, I
don't think they're.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Right, right, I mean that that's the key is I
agree with you. I think that they have to win
this game, and the Maryland game is certainly a must win,
and the Purdue game, Excuse me, the Penn State game
is one of these one where it's like we don't
know yet, you know, like in terms of what Penn
State is going to I mean like they they may

(48:00):
have folded up their tents by the time that that
game rolls around at the end of November. But you're right,
I think this though must win for Rutgers.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, fold up your ten or not. I think that
the class of athlete that goes to Penn State is
going to refuse to lose the Rutgers I draw the
line losing to Rutgers. But yeah, you one thing you
could hang your hand on before about Purdue is at
least they were scoring points. They just couldn't stop anybody.
Now they couldn't get points on Northwestern.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
But you know, if you like to watch bad teams
on the Big Ten network at noon, you can watch that.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Gate I guess, if you want to put it that.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
Way, three point thirty game on the Big Ten Network
is Illinois at Washington.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Chip.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I think this is going to be a good game.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
This is this is college football playoff elimination, right, You
agree because you're you're talking Illinois. They they were the
only team in the Big Ten that had a bye
last week, so they're well rested. Washington is coming off
an embarrassing loss at Michigan. It's in their home stadium.

(49:11):
I agree with you. I think Demon Williams, you know,
played poorly at Michigan. So right now, I mean, I mean,
I couldn't begin to tell you in terms of like
who I mean, I'm waiting to see if there's any
kind of like injury news or something like that. I'd
have to lean towards Washington simply for the home field.

(49:32):
But I am, by no means feeling comfortable in that
right now as we're talking.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Yeah, I think this is a coin flip because it's
at Washington, because you don't know which Washington team is
going to show up. If it were at Illinois, I
would definitely give the edge to Illinois right now.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
So I look forward to that game. I think that's
going to be a fun one to watch. So at
three point thirty on CBS, Minnesota goes to Iowa Chip
one of those teams will fall out of the Big
Ten race.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yes, and this this game has a lot of I
mean a lot of tradition, but I mean there's there's
some grudge you know, in this I mean with in
the sense of, you know, ever since you know PJ.
Fleck came on the scene from Minnesota, I mean he's
he's made the Golden Gophers a tough out. So this

(50:27):
one is the three thirty time slot. Uh, we just
talked about the Illinois Washington This is this is going
to be worthwhile bouncing back and forth between both of
these games.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I think if you like smash mouth football, this is
going to be some smash mouth football. I don't think, Yeah,
I agree, I don't think this is going to be
an air show. No, no, yeah, this is going to
be an interesting that. Now, remind our listeners, what do
these two teams play each other for.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
This isn't Floyda Royce Rosedale, is it? No? That? Yeah?
Is that Florida Floyda Rosdale. I believe it is.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I believe it's a pig.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
It's a floida Floyda Rosedale pig. That's that's what I
think the trophy is. I I'd have to yeah, I had.
The reason why I'm kind of stammering is like, because
so you've got Minnesota and Wiscon's playing for an axe,
you know, and that I just think, depending on on

(51:27):
how closely that game is, that that's kind of a
like a curious choice of thing to be handing out
on a football field after But uh yeah, but yeah,
I I really do. I think Minnesota, I mean, they're
they're feeling confident after that Nebraska game. Iowa obviously is
feeling good about the fact that they took down Penn

(51:51):
State at home. So I mean, it's been the weather
starting to get crisp in the Midwest. I can tell
you it's like in the fifties. So this this should
be worthwhile bouncing back and forth between Illinois Washington and
this this game here.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Yeah, I think it'll be a lot of fun in this. Yeah.
The the Floyd of Rosedale Trophy, by the way, is
a bronze trophy in the shape of a pig, and
it was introduced in nineteen thirty five, Chips, so it's
it's ninety years old.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Okay, well at least it's bronze. I was going to
say that.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Yeah, it's not an actual pig, but yeah, it's a
I don't know. I think I'm going to go, well,
it's because it's at Iowa. I'm given the edge to
Iowa in this game. But what you never know what
Minnesota is going to show up exactly the one that
needed the interception to beat to beat Purdue at home

(52:45):
or or was that at home? Yeah, I think it
was at home, and we're the one that beat Nebraska.
I don't know which one's going to show up and
and the same for Iowa. But we know that it's
not going to be an offense, you know, just outlandish
amount of offense in that game, exactly, all right, Chip
Luke Fickle just lost thirty four nothing to Ohio State,

(53:07):
and now he's got to take his badgers to Eugene
to play the Oregon Ducks.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
It is not beyond the realm of possibility that Dan
Lanning looks at the thirty seven nothing and the thirty
four nothing and says, why don't we just try to,
you know, double the don't double the points because at Oregon,
I mean, they're they're looking good. I realize Indiana beat

(53:39):
them at home a couple of weeks ago, but I
just think Oregon, I mean, Dan Lanning, I'll say this
much does not take his foot off the gas when
he has somebody somebody on the ropes. I mean like
it is pretty much like okay, just like a no
holds barred type mentality. So I think Wisconsin fans are

(54:00):
gonna probably want to avert their eyes. This is gonna
be brutal.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
I will say right now that unless Wisconsin gets a
turnover in this game that turns into points, I think
they're facing another shutout.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Oh yeah, I I feel I feel more confident in
predicting a shutout against that Oregon will will shut out
Wisconsin simply because I just think. I mean, it's not
that I think that Ryan Day was like taking pity

(54:34):
per se on Luke Fickle. But I just I don't think, like,
I don't think Dan Lanning. I mean, I don't think
he really gives, you know, what about you know, like
okay running up the score. I really don't.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah, he's got no history.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
So yeah, so I agree. I think I think Oregon's
gonna really I mean, take it to the Badgers on
Saturday too.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
That's a seven o'clock game on FS one. If you
are into snuff films, that might be something you would
want to watch. And then at seven thirty on NBC
CHIP the Battle for the Paul Bunyan Trophy. Not we
talked about the Paul Bunyon Acts. This is the Paul
Bunyan Trophy. Michigan goes to Michigan State. It's almost always

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an entertaining affair. But I don't think it's going to
be an entertaining affair this year.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, I think Michigan. I think they're gonna they're just
gonna play at Conservatives and they're going to be able
to because the Michigan State defense is pretty bad. You know.
I think that I have no idea, you know, if
they're going to hold out Justice Haynes, the Wolverines are
going to hold out Justice Haynes for another week. Jordan
Marshall certainly looked he played extremely well against Washington. We

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talked about Bryce Underwood. He's starting to come into his own.
So I like the Wolverines here, but you never know.
The Spartans, I mean, playing for Pride, they might be
able to keep it interesting for a while. But I
do think the Wolverines are going to win this one.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah. I think it'll be something like thirty four to
sixteen Michigan or something like that.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
That sounds about right, all.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Right, Chip, that's our trip around the Big Ten to
both this past weekend and the weekend upcoming. I know
we spend a lot more time on it than we
usually do, but we don't have a game to preview.
So that's it. We're done. Unless you got something else
on your mind, No.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
If anything, just you know, try and find a you know,
like a good way to bounce back and forth. I
think at the three thirty hour. That's just my opinion.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah. The good thing about the having the buy is
the bad thing is you'll get to watch the Buckeyes play.
The good news is you don't have to worry about
them losing and you can watch for all the chaos
around the rest of the country.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
See when you keep an eye on some of the
opponents that you're you know, is still on the schedule,
you can keep an eye on some of the opponents
who might be an opponent in the college football playoff.
So there's lots to do and take advantage of these
bye weeks because again there's no that's there're stress free.
You don't have to get all irritated, you know, because
they only scored thirty four points against Wisconsin. You can

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just say, hey, I'm just gonna chill and watch just
an absolutely ugly Minnesota Iowa game or something.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Yeah, exactly, all right, Chip, that's it.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
So why don't you remind our listeners where they can
find you and your fine work.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
I can be found on Twitter on Twitter at Chip Minic,
last name spelled m I N N I c H,
and I'm a contributor to Buckeye Huddle dot com as
well as Saturday Glory dot com.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
All right, you can of course find me on Twitter
at Mike thirty six fan. Also the same handle on
Blue Sky, but with the bsky dot social suffix as
they have on that platform. You can also follow the
Silver Bullets Podcast on Twitter at silver Bullets Pod with

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no E in silver because it's a we're one character over,
so it's s I l v R Bullets Pod. And
you can also, of course find my work at Landgrant
Holyland dot com. Every Monday. This week will be my
Grumpy Old Buckeye column and how you write about being
grumpy with a thirty four to nothing roadwin in the conference,

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but I managed to do it, so you can go
check out the things that bothered me in that game,
made me want to do the jump around on someone's head,
and then you know, next week I got to find
something else to write about. So every Monday you can
find my column Landgrant Holyland dot com. And of course
we'd love to hear from you, so email us at
silver Bulletspod at gmail dot com and spell it all
out the normal way silver Bullets Pod at gmail dot com.

(58:36):
We'd love to hear from you, answer any question you
have or just read your comments, so give us your
feedback and with that, chip, I think we're done. So
we'll be back next week to prepare for what we
thought was maybe going to be a preview of the
Big Ten title game, but now definitely not.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, things certainly changed very quickly.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Sure do. It's a it's a funny sport that we
love and sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the
bear gets you, and sometimes the bear gets James Franklin. Yeah,
well said, all right, that'll do it. So on behalf
of my co host, Chip Minnick. This is your host,
Michael Citrow, and we're gonna sign off the way we
always do by saying, go Bucks, Go Bucks.