Summer Wells

June 15th, 2021 Summer wells is reported missing. Let's dig into some of the details of this interesting case!

Episode Transcript

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What's happening and everybody, Welcome backto JG's Lounge. I'm your host Jukebox,
and we are back with another episodeof Singed Eye Sockets. First off,
a few announcements. I've been bragginga lot on our Facebook. We've
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We're looking at seven hundred and ninetyseven right now, or sorry, twenty
seven. I jumped the gun onthat, but by the end of the
day it'll be seven ninety seven,so it's okay. So I'm I'm really
excited everybody. Thank you so much. This has been fantastic and it's only
going to keep skyrocketing, especially withthe help of the guys that we got

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on today. You know, Iusually start out with evolutions, so Sean,
why don't we start with you thistime? How you doing? Man?
Sorry, it's different, and youstart with me. How am I
doing today doing? I'm doing fantastically. Now. Things are going well,
school's going well, all the goodthings. So yeah, good stuff man,

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and congratulations to you for you know, what you've you've built with this
network, man, because like you'reaggregating all of these these amazing people like
Davin you know from Davin's Den,Davin Rosenbla is fantastic, you know,
evolutions come in with you know,five thousand podcasts per week, and and

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now you're you're talking to some majorplayers that have been underground, like you
know, possibly getting a gobal inhere. I mean, it's just you're
gonna have so much amazing content man, and people don't even know. And
there was a time I remember acouple of years ago, like y're or
so whatever was it go? Wherethis wasn't you know where it's at?

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But you like you're stuck to it, man, and like it's I'm just
some if I may say, I'mproud of you. I appreciate that,
thank you, and and yeah,like you know, it was I think
it was about a year ago thatI was I actually was talking about just
stopping I think about two months offand was debating unstopping and honestly it kind
of helped me kind of revamp thewhole I don't know concept that I was

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going for too, and that's kindof kind of did help so because you
know, I don't feel like I'mdedicating, you know, fifteen hours a
week to do fifteen different shows,you know, And that's that's the part
that's that's nice, is that Idon't have to do that. And with
that being said, Evolution Man,how you doing. Hey, man,
it's a great morning. Uh.A little tired because, uh, like

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Sean said, I'm doing a lotof a lot of a lot of things
here lately. Uh, but uh, yeah, Man, to back him
up, you know, congrats man, We're we're sitting here watching this thing
explode in front of our face,and it's really an amazing thing to be
a part of. Really really gladto be a part of it. You

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guys are awesome and I love workingwith you and just looking forward to what
happens next. Man. Yeah,yeah, and uh, I don't even
know what's happening next. It's justkind of ridiculous. I'm excited. I
really am excited. And with thatbeing said, Sean, you just launched

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your second podcast. Man. Congratulations, thank you. Yeah, thanks,
It's okay. So it's called BlurredLines, and I'll credit to you for
coming up with the name, becausewe we bandied that about a bit,
but I think it was an inevitabilityand what kind of sparked it was.

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It was a combination of you andanother You've had Brad Miller on I believe
right, yes, yeah, okay, right, great dude. But we
were at a show the other nightand I was I was headlining the show,
and he went up right before me, and he was roasting all the
comics, which Brad doesn't do becausehe's like this super nice, smile,

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very Christian, super sweethearted guy,and he's just roasting people left and right.
And then he gets to me.He goes, you know, Sean
is not an angry guy, butman, if you mentioned the moon landing.
And then I'm out in the crowdand I go, it was faked.
It was faked. I went off. I was tirade. I go

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on stage and I'm just like Golfof Tonkin, you know, just like
start playing all this stuff out.And then we had talked about another thing,
and you know, we had mentionedthe conspiracy stuff, and it just
came from there. And it's theone thing I want everybody to know is
that the conspira See, the concernfor conspiracies does not come from you know,

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like I love investigating things and stuff, but is I have this deep
sense of justice and I hate whenpeople do things in the dark that people
or take advantage of people. Sowhen folks start to see the dots connecting
when other people don't, you know, it behooves us to go, hey,

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there's some there's some pint of shitgoing on over here that you're really
paying attention to, you know,so I can go down this rabbit hole.
But we got stuff to do.Yeah, yeah, No, I'm
excited to see where this show goes, and maybe some of the guests that
you're gonna have on as well withJerry gob will be one last night or

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was it yesterday? No, welaunched it yesterday. Huh did you watch
all of that? I know youpull some clips and things. I watched
like the first fifteen minutes and Igot busy, but I'll keep watching.
Like it my guy, I toldyou, isn't he just like he's got
some information? Do It's? Well, we want to get him on Evolution

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show. Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, Evolution, I'm telling you do.
Like I tried to stick to themoon landing, all right, one subject,
we probably hit thirty or forty differentHe's just like, well this ties
into this and if you do that, And we were talking about Easter Island
the mud floods. Oh, itjust was and I was like, all

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over the place. I'll just letit go because that's that's what he does.
The guys you talk about Jenius levelintelligence, dude, I'm going for
my pH d. And I'm Jerry'sWow, he's stratosphere dude. He's clearly
well read. I mean, justfrom what little I was watching, I
mean, he at least does hisresearch nice. So so to get into

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today's topic, you know, we'vetouched on, you know, Gypsy Rose
and the murder of her mom.We've touched on Natalie Grace and whether she
was you know, treated appropriately orif she was actually the wrong or not.
Then we did the disappearance or thefroze to death in the mountains of
the Diatloft Pass. And I'm tryingto kind of keep mixing up the styles

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of cases that we're picking. Sotoday I picked a disappearance case that's actually
still active. It happened June fifteenthof twenty twenty one, so it's a
disappearance of Summer Moon Utah Wells,five years old. Hey, look,
somebody's to me a snap. She'sforty pounds three feet tall when this happened,

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and again, this was June fifteenthin Tennessee, like backwards Tennessee,
and we'll kind of get into that. But somer Well's was one of four
siblings. She had three brothers,and I can pop up a picture of
them too. They were seven,nine, and twelve at the time that

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she disappeared. And this all reallykind of struck my interest when I started
hearing the different sides of the story, because none of them really line up.
And I figured the way we're goingto do the show today is there's
a ton of information about the parentsthat about their past and how like they

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just weren't great people to begin withand if they should even had kids.
I mean, there's plenty of differenthistory behind them that kind of makes them
not really the best fit for parents. But I don't really think that it
matters directly in the disappearance, SoI'm not going to touch too much on
that. I mean, it mightpop up in the conversation, but I

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just want to kind of get thelittle bits of information out there now,
like Don, so we got Donand Candice wells, those are the people
popped up there right now as theparents. They live on eleven acres in
the middle of nowhere, Tennessee.Their property is on top of a hill
and it's not the best looking locationto be honest with you, let me

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pop up their property here. Butthey are I mean, you're stereotypical like
backwoods family. Like yeah, yeah, well, you know it's weird.
Go ahead, it's funny, asyou said, a evolution because there is

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a theory out there in it.This is this doesn't strike everybody the best,
but it is a physiology and apsychology kind of amalgamation of the structure
of people's faces and being able tolook at them and guestimate their socioeconomic status.

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Really yes, yeah, because thereare certain facial features that you know,
and this cuts across all racial boundariesand things not it's not a black
white you know anything. It's liketheir facial structure and things and you start
to notice some commonalities like the cheekstructure and foreheads and things like that.
And if you take away their clothesand just look at the facial structure and

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things like that, you will startto notice some commonalities of like folks that
are backwoods and poor and things likethat, because I noticed the commonalities years
ago in high school and I remembertalking about it with my parents, and

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I started looking into it, andit's actually something that you know, scientists
have studied. So okay, I'mnot nuts for noticing like this, these
connecting threads. So when I wasI saw her and him and like the
you know, elongated and the cheekstructures and things. I went hmmm,

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and then evolution said something, soI was like, okay, yeah,
yeah, no, I mean yeah, And and it's it's true though,
I mean, you can kind ofjust get it's almost like a vibe that
the people put off too, likeif you're around them as well, or
if you like in the interviews,you can. I mean, it's just
obvious the way they talk, Imean some of the just some of the

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stuff that and the conversations they talkabout about the property. It just it
was very obvious that they're just,you know, not the wealthiest family.
So so Don does do drywall.He runs a company and he goes hours
away on some days for work.So the day of the incident, he
was actually about an hour a littleover an hour away from the property.

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When you got the call from Candaceabout huh proven an hour, Yes,
I mean that that well, no, that's not proven. Nobody knows.
Nobody knows for certain, but theydo know that. I mean, the
police did say that he was atnot there during the time of it.

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That was proven during like the timewhatever, there was people who confirmed anyone
there. So here's our property elevenacres. From this top view, all
you can kind of see is thehouse and the circle drive which is really
the only way on and off theproperty. You have to circle this driveway,
and if you look close, there'sa camper just north of the house.

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That's where there Candace's mother, Candylives. They're both Candace, but
the mother goes by Candy. Sowe're going to kind of get that out
there now. Okay, so likemaybe twenty feet away from the actual house,
m right. So on the dayof June fifteenth, about seven in
the morning, Don goes to work. Candae's mom has an appointment to go

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to the doctor to look at herleg. So she gets the kids up
and gets them loaded and ready togo to the city. Now, when
they drop off the mom for herappointment, they also swing by and pick
up a neighbor kid named Hunter becausehe just wanted to hang out with them
for a little bit, and theydrop off the mom and decide to pass

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some time because she's in there forher. They drop off the mom,
they get her from their appointment afterwards, and then the prescription is going to
take about forty five minutes to fill. So they go to like a little
water hole down the road. Thiswill have some relevance to it because some

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of this This is where the storiesstart not lining up. Summer go ahead,
Okay, I grew up pretty much. I'm not on the top of
her poverty strict country. Now whenyou say water hole, you mean fishing
hole, swimming hole. What arewe talking about, Well, it's like
a swimming hole the way they sayis a swimming hole. That's what they
all and the interviews called it aswimming hole, and they even said the

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name on here, but I didn'treally think that that mattered as much.
But so some are swimming and Candaceand Candy are just laying on the ground
on their phones and Hunter says thatSummer goes under the water for about fifteen
to twenty seconds, and the Candyand Candace aren't paying any attention, so

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he takes his shirt off and goesin. After he gets her, she
says she's fine, costs a littlebit and gets out. Now, first,
I wasn't going to use this information, but it kind of it might
play one of the theories later on. So they go back get her prescription
and go to the grocery store.Hunter and Summer are still in the truck

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while her, Candace and Candy gointo the grocery store. And here's where
it starts getting weird. Hunter saysthat they were in there for about an
hour. Candace says it was likefive or ten minutes. Hunter says that
the windows were up and the truckwas off, and Candace did not deny
that, but she did only saythat they were in there for about five

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to ten minutes. So right offthe bat, already starting to have some
weird, not accurate stories. Andthen they took a picture of Summer in
the truck, basically saying that shewas sleeping, that they thought she was
sleeping, but people are there aretheories saying that she might have passed away.

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At this point, there is somethingwhere you can actually drown later after
you go like later on in theday because water can get trapped in your
lungs. So there's theories. Thereare theories that she might have already passed
away at this point. Wow,the way she's laying, I mean,
there are some things that I cankind of see, but not to the

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point where I can for sure saythat, yeah, she's gone. Uh.
People point out like her hands arelaying and yeah, the way she's
louched, and she's she's completely straight. So when you when I'm thinking about
when people lay that way, they'rethey're kind of sunk into what they're laying
on, and she's completely straight.Mm hm. So yeah, there's there's

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no slouching or anything. Yeah.And if you look in the top corner,
top left, you can see thatthe boy Hunter's arm is kind of
resting over the top of the theseat. You can barely see it.
Yeah, so he was in theback, but he never really says that
she was, you know, whethershe was or wasn't she He just said

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that she was. They thought shewas sleeping. Mm hmm. Right.
But I wanted up again, Iwanted to throw this out here, now,
get it out there in case lateron you guys think maybe this is
what happened or not. I'm notopposed to this theory, especially as we
start digging more into this. SHAWNEgot anything yet? Well, I okay,

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so I used to be an emptyof that I've had. Is there
anything that you haven't done, dude, I've always had two to three jobs,
so it's it's yeah, I've I'vedone a lot, right, But
I've I've run on transports where wehad to pick somebody up that was in
full rigor. I know what thatlooks like. I know what it feels

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like to pick somebody up that isin rigor. And i mean depending on
the thing that she's laying on.The hands not so much. But the
straightness is a little weird because I'mlooking at the neck, the positioning of
the neck, and unless that whateverthat is is like super solid, it
is a bit strange that it's likethis and not this. So it was

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a yeah, and this was avideo. It was like a really like
short four second video clip, andthat somebody screenshotted this and posted this online,
so it was the best one Icould get. There's no because I'm
looking under the eyes to see ifcamer if they call this particular imagery imaging,
but there's no like strain or lookslike any of that stuff. But

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was the mom a smoker by anychance? Uh? It does, so
I was going to get into thaton the way back to the property.
So after they got to the grocerystore, they swing by a smoke shop.
It's a little like pot shop,and she picks up like some cancers
for a VP pen and stuff.So I'm guessing that. I mean,
I know, we know that she'ssmoking. I don't know what probably we'd

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There is history of drugs, okay, and it doesn't really specify what kind
they do. Don points out laterwhich we'll discuss, that he fired an
employee because he thought he was onmeth. So I don't think that they
dove that deep, but there wasthere's drugs involved as far as the parents.
Yeah, it's not masking. Thisis more of like you talk about.

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She says, we were in therefor five minutes, and I just
in my brain, not having heardher on an interview here, like,
well, you're just in there forfive minutes? Yeah, okay, I
can see her swinging that way withthe argument. Hunter says, for like
an hour. But okay, soyou've got a kid out in a hot
truck, his perspective is going tobe stretched. Then they're doing stuff.

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You know, she thinks it's veryshort. But if you have somebody that's
a dedicated smoker, in one ofthe things I was looking at in their
initial pictures, they you know,typically smokers have like smoke lines right in
their lips. You'll see it,and particularly where the cigarette normally lands,
because they always smoke in the samespot. And if she's a smoker,

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she's not staying in a store fora solid hour, all right, She's
going to step out for a smokesomething like that. So this is where
that's why I'm just like, thetimeline seems a little bit weird between them.
Yeah. Yeah, that another statthat I saw, like from some
of the doctors and some of that. So they were on Doctor Phil later

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on, and Doctor Phil even talkedabout how he doesn't think that they killed
her, which I can see thatbeing the case, but it doesn't mean
that they're not hiding something. Anda lot of a lot of the speculation
kind of leaned on Dawn as beingone of the people that might have been
the killer or somebody that was involvedin removing her, but the more you

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dive into it, it almost doesn'tmake sense. So I want to point
out relativity because Sean said something thatsparked something in my brain. A kid
being in a car, if it'sfive minutes to seem it may seem like
an hour, right, because youknow they're just sitting there waiting, doing
nothing, versus a parent being ina store, time's gonna go seem like

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it's going really fast. So Ijust wanted to point that out because especially
if it's hot, you know,a second's gonna seem like a minute,
and a minute's gonna seem like anhour, right. Yeah, And actually
I was gonna say something about theway that a lot of the doctors said
is a mental state of people onaverage, when they say five minutes,

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it's usually about fifteen, ten tofifteen minutes. It's never spot on what
they say. You got to swingfifteen minutes just based on you know,
most statistic people saying that term justfive minutes. So there is that too.
Either way, we're already off toa terrible start the podcast. Everything

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was going to everybody's story is alreadynot lining up, And actually Canvas's mom
Candy mostly doesn't talk at all.I mean you don't hear from her on
any of the documentaries on any ofthis stuff, Like she does not speak.
She talks, but she doesn't speakon any of the interviews. I

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mean she does say in a campernext to the house. I mean,
well, and she was involved,like she was around during the disappearance too,
So it's like, eh, soyeah, and so Hunter decides at
this point he doesn't want to stayand hang out with him and go back
to the property, so they takehim home, and so that's where that

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story ends. And so they goback to the house. According to Candace,
they go in the house for afew minutes, and then her mom
wants to plant some flowers. SoSummer goes out with Candace and Candy and
they're hanging out over by the camperand go ahead, something gonna say something.

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No, no, sorry, no, I no, you're getting get
Summers helping him plant some bulbs anddecides that she wants to go back inside.
So Candace says that she takes herto the house, tells the boys
to watch her, and then goesback outside only for a few minutes,
and during this time, Summer disappears. Beash is without a trace, and

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so she says, she goes backin the house, asked the boys or
Summer is They say, oh,she's in the basement playing. She yells
down for Summer, gets no response, which she says is rare. Usually
Summer is quick to respond. Goesdown in the basement, and there's Summer's
just gone. She's disappeared. Thisis afternoon time at this point, and

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she hasn't called and reported anything yet. Let's see here I should have a
picture of. This is the basementback door. So the only way unless
the boys saw something, which theysay they didn't, this would have been
the only way for her to havegone out to the basement door. Here
at the bottom of this backside thehill back the house, and if you

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notice this dog on the side tothe right. They had eight to twelve
dogs. They did not confirm howmany dogs they had, so first that
strikes me as eight to twelve dogs. None of them barked. According to
Candace right away, her speculations isthat she either wandered off in the woods

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or was abducted at the like.Like I said, they're on the top
of a hill and there's apparently awalking path through the woods up to this
back door, and she's like,this is where they would have came up
and got her. No, No, that was yeah. Eight. If
that is the case, it's somebodythat knows the house and has been there
many times. Yeah, because thedogs didn't make a damn noise and they

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were outside. Candace and Candy wereoutside planting flowers during this time, so
they I mean, it just doesn'tit doesn't make sense. No, it
doesn't. Well another problem. Imean they talk about a walking path and
things, and if it's somebody that'sfamiliar, and it's quite possible, you

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know, if they were just like, hey, come here, and she's
five, she knows them, right, possible. But for folks that haven't
grown up in the woods and onacreage, one acre is a decent amount
of land. Now you take thatone acre and you spread it out over

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eleven that is a shitload of land. And then you're talking on top of
a hill in Tennessee. Now you'retalking, you know, So for somebody
to actually have gone to do this, first of all, that's a lot
of effort, a lot of fuckingeffort. And the other thing I want
to bring up then is in Tennessee. There are cryptids. Now, if

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you don't know what cryptid is,we're talking about like chupacabra and bigfoot things
like that. There's something called theTennessee Terror that could have taken her.
There's also Kentucky goblins that have beenspotted in those areas as well, Kentucky
goblins, the White Bluff Screamer,the Flintville Monster, Tennessee wildman that might

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just be a drunk, the notdeer. And here's if you can see
there's a picture of a deer withits antlers on fire. I can probably
would have screamed if she saw that. So the possibilities, gentlemen, that
I mean, yeah, and Iwasn't going to bring a paranormal as into
it, but I mean it's definitelythere. There's also apparently there are bears

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and mountain lions in this area becauseit's not I mean they're small, they're
small mountains, but they are,you know, in that area to where
there is bears and other animals.But again, but again eight to twelve
dogs, not one dog made asound. Candae and Candy are out there
just on the other side of theproperty and in order for her to get

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out that door. And what shesaid is every time Summer comes out the
place, she always goes around tothe side of the house, which is
to the left, and there's aswing over here up in the corner.
You can't really see it, butthat's where she goes in place. So
she said she would have came out, that's where she would have she would
have just wandered off and that okay. And on the right side of the
picture that's the mom's camper then,isn't it yep? Okay, So from
the topography, okay, so nowwe get the lay of the land.

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That circle around you're actually going around. It's not flat. Yeah, if
the car would have pulled up onthe property the only way it would have,
I mean, they would have noticedbecause it's literally a massive circle drive.
Mm. So before we get intothe phone calls, I did get
a little video clip of one ofthe interviews of her Cannice walking somebody through

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their house, and I want Ihad to clip it because when you see
the state of this house, itstarts going to a more questioning of how
their parenting is and some of theliving situations. So let's get this.
So I want to show some ofthis video for folks home and I want
to walk through exactly what you sawinside this home. So this is Candice

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showing me essentially where the boys weresitting. They were sitting right there at
that table looking at that TV playingvideo games. Summer went down into the
basement. She's pointing to this youknow table here that has a basically a
crawl space into it. Uh,and down into that crawl space goes down

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into the parents and Summer's room.Wow. Right, it's like a work
bench table that they converted into likea weird little crawl space that was stares
down into the basement. Does theword hoarder kind of get into your mind?

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And a lot of and a lotof the stuff that they talk about
that, I mean, I noticedthat they at least believe in toilet paper
because thing. Okay, so here'shere's a question. Enough of what we
just saw, all right, Sothey're they're obviously hill folks right up in

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Tendessee, you know, And look, man, I grew up around rednecks.
You know, I still am wantingto some degree, So there's there's
no judgment that way. But ifyou look at some of the things that
are are somewhat stereotypical of hillfolks,and then those areas preppers, right right,
So were they saying that that entrance, that crawl space was the way

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that they got to their room,because yes, then that's intentional that that
must have been one of those thingswhere they're like, they build it that
way, because if you're going tolook into a house, say you're breaking
into a house, you're looking fora bedroom, bro, You're not looking
under a table, right, Sothere there there's some repping, redneck ingenuity

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in that move. But it's alittle weird too. It's very weird.
That's very weird. So that makesme wonder and we'll probably get into it.
What other shit is hidden on thatproperty right space to your room that
they built into a table? Likeit's very weird. Wow, And that

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kind of triggered me right off thebat. So I got that, and
then I got this second half here, we're going to watch this one.
Can I stop you real quick,Chris, because so this is the only
way to get to Summers and theparents room is through this crawl space,
right, That's just the way shesaid Summer went into that basement. Why
do they have it set up likethat. That is a great question.

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I don't have that answer. Okay, continue, So we get down there,
and of course you know this isSummer's room here that you're seeing.
All of the items in the backcorner belong to Summer. There was a
mattress on the floor, the twobunk beds, the windows are secured with

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reflective type of materials and show youcan tell this is you know, it's
it's pretty pretty striking pretty quickly.M Yeah, so her room, her
room is basically just this, Imean it's it's an unfinished just space is

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all it is. And actually,if you guys weren't paying attention as they
were coming down the stairs during thisvideo, there is some explicit content on
the TV. I don't know ifyou guys noticed that, but there's a
girl lifting her shirt up like GirlsGone Wild, and a lot of people

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put this into into a lot ofthe research about that not even being a
thing anymore, like those infomercials aboutGirls Gone a while back in like the
nine these in early two thousands,which kind of would say that it's like
a pre recorded VHS. But thefact that that's just playing on the TV.
The daughters down there, So theytalk about how, you know,

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maybe the kids have been introduced intokind of that sexual atmosphere from the explicit
content early on. And Don wasknown for molesting his siblings when back in
the day, which doesn't it playsinto this if you want to lean towards
the side that maybe Don had somethingto do with it, or even Candice.

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But either way, I mean,this is clearly not probably not the
best space for children to be livingin. No right way out in the
distance and cross spaces to your roomand that type of stuff on the television.
It's not heading in the right direction. And from my experience, most

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people that cover the windows like thatusually have some sort of a drug problem
because there, I mean, Iknow a lot of people that have like
been on meths and stuff like that. They'll like get paranoid and block their
windows and stuff like they're being watchedkind of thing. And I noticed that
I thought that was weird. I'mnot saying that that that they're meth heads,

(33:22):
but clearly there's there's some stuff that'sway off here. Now. Typically,
no, I think you're right,jukebox, because typically, like even
in the pores of the poor,they don't do aluminum foil reflective materials.
It's it, you know, it'syou know, they put up old curtains

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or they'll even take and take taxor nails and you know, drape a
towel, you know, to gluethe light. They won't do reflective material
typically. That's it's an interesting choicefor that. But these I'm getting some
heb gbs. Yeah, these folks, because it's you know, I'm kind

(34:14):
of backing up to what you weresaying about what was on the TV.
They're escorting people into this room andshowing them what's what the room looks like
with this on the TV. Soit's like a very comfort comfortable images on
the TV for them, so muchthat they're showing these people while it's on

(34:37):
there. And this is the littlegirl's room. Wow, yeah, it's
it's very very weird. And sohere's where she goes outside. She's looking
around for for a few minutes andthen she calls Don and she says she's
missing me to come home. Atthis point, they both hang up and
call the police. And according tothe dispatch, you don't hear the phone

(35:01):
calls from them. But according tothe dispatch, the way that they reported
over the calm is that there's afour year old missing on the property because
the mom went for a walk sosomewhere. Yeah, yes, so this
is the dispatch. So they don'tknow if this is coming from Don's report
or from Kandace's report because of thefact that they both called it in.

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The only things that a lot likethe doctors and stuff that we're doing with
the investigations said that could make senseis that Don didn't know what happened,
and when he called he could havebeen frantic and just kind of spewed out
some stuff. But still weird.So Don's an hour away according to several
different stories. He's an hour away. He says that he gets back to

(35:47):
the property before the police do.According to Candace, yeah, I mean
they are in the middle of nowhere, but even then, an hour kind
of stretching, especially this day andage. It's only two years ago,
so it's not like it was thatfar ago. Candace is. The story
is that she jumps in her truckand drives down to a church down the

(36:09):
road looking for her because sometimes shewalks down to the church and she sees
cops heading back to the property,so she turns around and goes back,
and that was not an hour,that was maybe fifteen minutes. Yeah,
So again, more that doesn't lineup right. And if she's looking for

(36:34):
a missing daughter, why would sheturn around and go back? Well,
because the police still well I meanyeah, but you know, if you
think your child is somewhere in yourparent and you're concerned and they're missing,
you know, if you're on yourway to see if there possibly can be
into this location, you're gonna dothat first and then go back. I'm

(36:59):
thinking, yep, yeah, it'sit's a yeah, that doesn't make any
sense. But these don't. TheseI'm just gonna say, just from what
the evidence is so far, I'mnot too sure that these people have the
highest IQs, is what I'm guessing. I've heard them speak yet, But

(37:22):
just by her general mannerisms as she'swalking through the house, the way she's
carrying herself, body language wise,condition of the house, the fact that
they were titties on the TV whilecameras were there and she's just like,
well, she's down here, don'tmind the titties anyway. Like, there's

(37:44):
just a lot of things that don'tseem to strike me as is that doesn't
make any sense. She's going tothe church, she's a good chance he's
there. She sees the cops andis like, oh, well, we'll
give up on that, you know, and she yeah, that doesn't that
doesn't track. So I'm with youon that evolution. That's a that's a

(38:07):
weird move. Yeah, And Iactually call onto that too. I'm like,
you know, if I'm freaking outand want to see if my kids
somewhere, then I'm gonna go.I'm gonna go. And look, the
cops are gonna go to the propertyno matter what. They're gonna be there
when you get back, go checkthe So that's that. Now, Throughout
the course of the day, you'vegot a couple they call ems and some

(38:28):
of the other agencies in the areato come help their scouting the property.
One of the neighbors reports hearing tirespassing by their property heading towards the Wells
property, in which case they wouldn'thave not seen it. But this is
just one neighbor's report. Nobody elsesays anything about a vehicle being on the

(38:50):
property or passing by this time.And the neighbor also reports around the time
of the call that there was ascream, a muffled scream, and that's
the only report you hear relating thatstory. So just another aspect that kind
of throws it to a curve becausethere are no tracks to say that there

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was a vehicle that showed up onApparently it was like a red truck that
they said they saw they didn't recognize, but there's no tracks, there's no
like way to prove, like,there's no evidence saying that there was a
vehicle. And we got four peoplewatching. Hey, thanks guys, thanks
for tuning in. Feel free tochime in on the chat. We are
talking about the summer Well's case.So well, it's just, you know,

(39:37):
it's getting more and more confusing atthis point. And by the next
day they've got eight different agencies fromthe surrounding from the state and surrounding areas
coming eleven hundred acres and that's alot. It's a lot of I just
have a thought though, So thattruck thing is a weird one off,

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because I will tell you, ifyou have lived out, not a lot
of people go anything that is mechanicalthat breaks through the sounds of nature.
M you are very well aware of, you know, when I lived out

(40:24):
on rural Route one, okay inDeer Creek, Indiana. You know,
you could hear like when a truckwas coming, man, you knew it,
and you knew it from a mileokay. And so they would be
very cognizant of if there's you know, revenuers or strangers coming up, they're

(40:49):
gonna hear it. My only questionis what kind of relationship did they have
with this neighbor, because the personthat said this shit about the truck right
right and the muffled scream doesn't likethem. It's like, oh, yeah,
I heard a scream and there's thisthis truck and it was it was
red. Yeah, that's it,you know what I mean? Or they

(41:13):
were part of the the what doyou call it, the involvement when there
was drugs right? You know,well, and that's something that kind of
that's something that kind of plays intothe story too. During the Doctor Phil
investigator or interview, he mentioned theCornbread Mafia. Now this is an actual

(41:42):
thing. Uh, They're actually adrug cartel in that area. And I
don't know what sparked him to bringthis up, but he did, and
apparently Candice got very upset and likeleft the stage. Really yeah, yeah,
no, shot, I know thisa horrible subject, but that's the

(42:06):
name they came up with, Cornffa. Yeah. Apparently it was like a
pot cartel in the area, andshe got very upset about it, like
when when doctor Phil mentions it,she gets very upset and leaves the stage.
So I don't know. Okay,if you bring that aspect into it,
Let's say that they're involved in somedrug you know, transportation, they

(42:28):
could be. I could see thatbeing an aspect to where somebody came and
took the kid because they owed themoney or something. Right. Yeah,
but again if that's the case,that would make sense and the dog's not
going off if they're related to someof the stuff happening, because there's people
on the property that have been involved. So and again this is an open
investigation still to this day, likenobody, nobody knows where she is.

(42:52):
But this was like right when ithappened. Yeah, so because the it
was six point thirty when the neighborreported that they heard the screams earlier on
in the day. So, likeI said, it was late afternoon when
this all went down, and thekids. I mean, if if Cannice

(43:14):
did something, which is why Imentioned the drowning, the possible drowning in
the car after the fact. Ifshe was passed on, she would have
had to coax the kids into sayingthat she was in the basement, because
the kids reported that they were watchingTV she was in the basement. But

(43:34):
they're oldest is twelve, so it'snot far fetched to say that. And
if their IQs aren't that great andthey're living in the middle of nowhere,
the kids could be not the mostintelligent either, and just kind of going
along with whatever. What about Hunterthough? And Hunter's not there anymore,
and Hunter went back to his house. They dropped him off, right.
But if Hunter, if she hadin fact been then to remember the photo,

(43:58):
he's got his home around her,right if that point right, So
there he is, she's if she'spassed on at that point, you know,
unless his IQ is really down inthe toilet, he knows what's going
on too. So either he's coveringit up, you know, and they're
doing that that thing that people inrural communities do, or they just tighten

(44:22):
it up, you know, Andthis was just an accident, and he
don't stay you know what I mean, it's like, is that a gallon
of milk? It's two gallons ofmilk that she's laying on. Oh my
god, Yes, she's a tinyshe's a tiny girl. Okay, good

(44:42):
catch evolution. I did not noticethat. I thought it was a code
or something. Are two one gallonmilks? Wow? Very very tiny girl.
So it's not soft, it's notso positionally that might make sense at
this point, Yeah, because Iwould, you know, slouching, because
that is a hard surface. Yeah, this is the boys room, by

(45:06):
the way. I mean they're livingin some some slum slumbers. That's not
wrong, wrong term, but whatever. You don't mean. Yeah, that's
that's I mean, it's not squalor. But it's not not squalor. This
is the video where that's the tablewith the blackfront. Mm hmm. Yeah,
they're not they're not living their bestlives. They sure do. You

(45:29):
have flat screens kind of all overthe place though, they have a lot
of a lot of flat screens,Yes, but definitely hoarding. Definitely not
the cleanest environment. And and sothe investigation goes on for about a week
and they end up coming like foursquare miles with like twenty different agencies and
the number of agencies is around there, and I'm just kind of based on

(45:51):
all of the different reports and thepodcasts and the research that I've done,
it was a ton of agencies fromlike three different states, including the Tennessee
Bureau of an Investigation all involved inthis. Uh, they never find the
property. So with all these differentstories lining up, but it doesn't really
I mean, there's no confirmed evidence, but I still don't think that she

(46:12):
was abducted on the fact that thedogs did not bark. Mh. But
that's just just my view on it. What do you guys got so far?
Well, the time frame in howshe disappeared doesn't make sense to me
because, uh, there are peopleout front planting, planting flowers and like,

(46:34):
like, like Sean pointed out,if there's a truck that came up,
they would have heard it. Theywould have knew that there was a
truck and a muffled scream as well. Plus, like you said, jukebox,
there would have been there would havebeen some dogs marking, right.
Uh. So I'm thinking that's justa randomly thought up story by someone who

(46:57):
doesn't have a high IQ, justcovering up something that actually happened. Yeah,
what you get you know, Iwould agree with that. It seems
weird because and going back to whatDuke Box said, the dogs is like
there's certain things, like in anyinvestigation or where you're trying to figure things

(47:20):
out, you know, the thingsthat your brain hangs up on are typically
I find the things that you haveto go back to and investigate that just
don't feel right. And the dogsis the one that's really hanging me up
because I've been around dogs the entiretyof my life, and you know,
even if they are familiar with somebody, when somebody's approaching, they still bark.

(47:44):
Okay, even if they know you, because it's not until they at
your scent, they see you whatever, then it's like, oh, you
know, I know this person.And so if you had some raindow truck
coming up, if you had somehikers that were coming up out of the
woods, those dogs are still statisticallyspeaking, one out of ten of the

(48:05):
dogs is gonna roof, you knowwhat I mean. So the fact that
they didn't bark, I mean,of course, you know, I'm assuming
juke Box is going to throw anotherwild curve after this. But where I'm
at right now with this at thispoint is I'm assuming something happened to this

(48:27):
kid at the swimming hole. Yeah, something. That's why I brought it
up. And I had I hadto bring it up because I wasn't going
to keep going keeping. Yeah,so that's I think something happened to the
swimming hole. And if it wasone of those things where it was like
that long where she slowly was drowning, you know, and she's just dead,

(48:49):
and you know, they're just like, this happened. We got to
get I'm wondering if somewhere out onthat acridge she isn't buried somewhere well,
and and here's here, here's yourcurveball. During the investigation of the property,
Don and Canadas continue to insist thatshe is not on the property and

(49:13):
that they need to be scouring thewoods and surrounding areas. So they are
are actually trying to Yeah, theyare. They are trying to get her
off right. Is it like oneof those cartoon things where bugs Bunny runs
over and it's like, he's definitelynot in this closet, you know what

(49:35):
I mean? Yeah? Yeah,And Don does have an history of uh,
you know, he has had dwise, he's also had like some
uh physical altercations. They've had physicalaltercations where she's called the cops on him
and then actually filed a charge againsthim and then ended up like dropping it.

(49:57):
So you've got a drunken to beof household. Yeah, you've got
hoarding, You've got explicit content thatthe kids are exposed to. The property
itself is not in the best shape. So a month later, CDs does
come and remove the children. Therest of the kids, they take them.
Don Does say in an interview he'slike, I'm kind of glad that

(50:20):
they did because it wasn't safe forthem. You know, Candas and I
are both now drinking heavily, arguingall the time. There's now public coming
on to their property and trespassing,and it's just not safe for the kids.
On top of all this, whichyou know, I mean, I
get that Candas is obviously extremely distraught, but he is kind of happy that

(50:43):
they did get to you know,that they were removed. Wow, I'm
going back to the water hole whenHunter pulled her out. I'm thinking he
pulled her out and she wasn't,you know, with a stand, uh,
because when when they when it wastime for them to go back to

(51:06):
the house. He wanted to gohome, right, I think I think
Hunter knew something. I agree.And actually during the actually the investigation,
the initial one, they do goto his house and interview him, but
a lot of they had some Idon't know what you call him where they
can like kind of read people there. It's like a profession. They had

(51:30):
people analyze the interview and said thatit was very off and didn't line up,
like Hunter didn't really know a lot. He said a lot of ums
and ohs, and like it justwas very off put and uncomfortable in the
interview. So like it is weird, and I didn't use any of the
information from it because there's not reallyI mean, I've said everything that he

(51:52):
said, and during the interview,he just there's a ton of ums and
ods, like it doesn't really andhe's a little bit older. I think
he's like twelve or thirteen. He'sone of the older kind of with the
older son. But yeah, it'sweird, man, this whole case is
pretty weird. And I've actually sharedall the stuff that I had. But

(52:15):
again there's the core brad Mafia kindof throws me off. That doctor Phil
mentioned that he did mention that hesaid, I don't think that the parents
killed her, but he did leantowards Candace as if she he thinks that
she knows because she doesn't want totalk to anybody. Well, I think
it's because he kept pressuring because shewas there and he kept pressing her during

(52:37):
the interview, which anybody that's watchingor listens to this later on, there
is a ton of information out therethat you can go search. I do
appreciate you guys watching this, butthere's tons more that I didn't talk about.
I just kind of hit the factsand the stuff that I did find,
and that's kind of the whole purposeof this show is to not necessarily,
you know, give too much away, because there's always more that you

(52:59):
can go find. But I gaveall the facts that are necessary to kind
of come up with our home conclusion, and that's where we're at. I
don't I don't think it's paranormal.I mean, I'm not saying that it's
too far out there, Sean,but I'm not thinking it's paranormal. I
think something happened earlier on in theday. I have five dogs. Keep
in mind, people, I mean, I know that even if it's somebody

(53:20):
that's been in my house a dozentimes in a week. Those dogs,
or at least one of the dogsis still barking, and actually it's usually
all mine. So I don't thinkthat she was abducted. I think something
happened to her, you know.And the thing is the reaction of the
Cornbread Mafia from was it Candy orCandace? Candas as the mom and Candy's

(53:44):
the mother, the mother of themwho walked off stage the mom Candace Candace
Candy was not on there. Candywas not in any of the interviews.
Okay, so Candice walked off stage. So her walking off stage at the
mention cornbread mafia, I mean couldbe uh correlation not causation, meaning that

(54:07):
there might be something going on witha cornbread mafia, because you know,
if if Don with his amazing haircutis I mean, that thing is stunning.
You know. I'm gonna answer Jakereal quick. I don't want to
interrupte, but I was thinking Trumpwhen I see his hair, you know,

(54:32):
actually I was thinking seventies Python.But he's gotta he's gotta gotta have
the same heads. There's a bowlinvolved somewhere, right, But there might
be something where they've had problems withthe Cornbread Mafia, and it has nothing

(54:53):
to do with this situation, butthe things that have been happening are so
upsetting, right that now here's atheory. They're out and about with the
kids at the swimming hole, CornbreadMafia comes up, exes out the kid,

(55:14):
okay, at the watering hole.They take her back home and basically
the CBM says, you know,you say anything about this, you're gonna
end up just lack her. Yeah, So they bury her somewhere on the
property. All right. She tellsDon what's up, and they have to

(55:37):
concoct this whole story to cover upthe fact that she got murdered by these
dudes, right, and now there'sthis whole thing and they're like, she
ain't on the property. You no, no, you need to look over
in the holler, but not here. So there's so many things that's like
she either accidentally died and they don'twant to deal with it right and all

(56:00):
the mess because it just it justhappened, or this Cornbread Mafia thing does
plan. That's why she's so upset, because they did kill her to send
a message to Don or both ofthem because of drugs, whatever it is,
and they just have to eat thefact that the kid is dead.

(56:21):
Right. See, I was kindof having a twist on that maybe they're
involved with the cornbread mafia. Maybeshe dies, maybe she dies the truck.
Well, maybe she d dies inthe truck. They drop off Hunter,
they meet up with somebody from thecorn bread mafia and ask them to
get rid of the body. Ohman, if they got hogs, forget

(56:45):
about it in order to kind ofcover their own ass. Hey, I
know, you guys can get ridof this, and then you know,
they come up with this elaborate storyof her being abducted from the property.
Right That makes interesting. Wow,that's interesting. That is very interesting.

(57:08):
I think you scored one two bocks. Yes, No, but I mean
based on the timeline and the informationand the fact that they were barely mentioned
only in the interview with doctor PhilIt just kind of the way she reacted,
it just I mean, I feellike there's clearly involvement with that.

(57:30):
And again, I don't think she'sabducted because of the dog situation, Like
that's the biggest clue to me.That's I mean, the biggest red flag
is the dog's not barking or anything. And they actually Candice real quick,
I'll let you talk evolution. Sorry, I'll lose this thought. They did
say that the TBI, the TennesseeBureau of Investigation, did a very crappy

(57:52):
job of scouting the property because they'resniff drugs or their dogs, the sniffing
dogs that they brought to the propertyor too. They didn't ask them to
put away their dogs, so theywere distracted. So they try to throw
that in there that like they didn'tdo a good job of searching the you

(58:13):
know, searching for their daughter.M So I was just gonna say,
no tire tracks, you know.And and when you said sniffing dogs,
yeah, that made a lot ofsense because you got well trained dogs that
they're trying to do their job,and then you got these other dogs that

(58:34):
are going berserk, you know,reminded these trained dogs that their dogs too,
you know what I mean. Thenthen you also have the mother directing
them in other areas, making surethey don't go a certain direction. If
I had an explanation for all this, I'm like, yeah, definitely,

(58:59):
something happened at the water hole.I think actually it happened at the water
hole and I think, yeah,they probably consulted the Corn Mafia, Corn
Mafia, Corn Brad Mafia to eraseany type of evidence that could be found,

(59:22):
just so she can be off thehook, you know, and just
make the child disappear, which isvery, very sad, But that's that's
where I'm at. But I mean, to me, that would make more
sense than anything else that they broughtup. It just that would line up

(59:44):
a lot better, That's what Igot. What you got, Sean,
Well, I think i'm I'm I'mon board with that because here's the thing.
If we're talking time frames, andyou know, look at the abundance
of evidence and the lack of ittoo. All right, So if she

(01:00:05):
dies at the watering hole, allright, and Hunter is aware that it
happened, and they're taking these videosand stuff, and they're concocting these things,
and they're rapidly trying to pull inall these these different points of the
talking points of what happened. Youknow, the mom went out for a
walk, Well, no, wewere out planting flowers for just two seconds,

(01:00:30):
but you know, we decided notto plant the flowers. You know.
It's it's like there's so many thingsfrom all over the place, and
now I was going to the churchbecause I'm sure she was the church,
and that's all the cops. SoI drove back. What it sounds like
is a bunch of people involved.She dies, and they are trying to

(01:00:52):
cover it up because they don't wantto go to jail, they don't want
to lose their kids, all thisother stuff, whatever their reasoning is.
I posed the picture with Hunter.Hunter's nervous as shit, because one he's
twelve, he knows what happened.And if the cornbread mafia is involved,
and this kid knows what they cando, he's going to be all kinds
of nervous where it's like, yeah, yeah, they know she was.

(01:01:15):
So with his reaction to it,there can like an amalgamation of all these
bullshit stories that don't quite add up, and looking at everything, I think
that's pretty spot on. But Ido have one other thing that I would
add to this that I don't thinkyou guys are considered yet. If you

(01:01:35):
if you put a side by sideof Gypsy Roses Mom with Don almost sure,
Man, I got something here.Yeah, let's get it out there.
Man. I want to see thereceipt of what was purchased at the

(01:01:55):
grocery store. I think that'll tiein everything and solve this mystery, because
why would you go to a storeafew child drowned? You know what I
mean? I want to I wantto, especially knowing what was in the
house. I want to see alist of what was purchased in a grocery

(01:02:16):
store, because if it was atarp, a rope, you know,
a shovel, you know what I'msaying, Uh, that would that would
explain a lot or or hastily boughtitems that just made no sense, Like
yeah, I guess it was aHustler magazine and a few other DVDs.

(01:02:37):
We just stopped to get our dailyin lube and getting tired of all our
pre recorded vhs is content. Thekids have been bugging us for it,
So I mean, you gotta getsome stuff, ye tracking up over there?

(01:02:59):
Yeah, no joke, So,you know, And as much as
we play around with this stuff,guys, I mean, I guess it's
a it's serious. This is seriousstuff. And you know, the more
episodes we get into the you know, the more intrigued I am about them.
And this case is interesting in thefact that it's still an open case,
and it's still an open investigation.And actually Don is currently in prison

(01:03:24):
for d why. It has nothingto do with the missing but he got
a d why And uh, it'sjust I don't know. I don't think
she's alive. I think we've kindof hit the nail on the head on
this one. Again, everybody,this is speculation. Just a disclaimer,
kind of like Sean, I'm gladthat you mentioned I should throw one on

(01:03:45):
this show too, because nothing thatthat we are saying is confirmed. Anybody
listening or watching this is purely basedon the information that I'm presenting us kind
of making our own, you know, assumptions. So why is she leaning
up against the milk? I knowthat's such a I don't get it.

(01:04:06):
See you got a soft seat onthe other side that's empty. Yeah,
yeah, that's really strange that she'spropped up like that. And the other
thing too, is rigor doesn't setin right away. A lot of people
seem to think that as soon asyou die, you and freeze up.
That's not what happens. Rigor.It takes a bit to set in,

(01:04:28):
and then once it sets in,it doesn't stay. You don't stay in
full rigor. It's it's like abell curve. It goesn't it? And
then down right? Okay, Soif she's she's dead right there. Okay,
if she's dead and she is lookinga bit pale, which is weird
for the heat, right right,and they need to prop her up,

(01:04:53):
and Hunter doesn't want a dead bodyup against them. I could very much
see them doing this this way becausetwo gallons of cold milk, you know,
I don't care how warm you arethat and stacked on top of each
It's just that's so strange. Whata strange thing to do, y Q

(01:05:15):
or not? Yeah, why wouldyou do that? And why would you
why would you take a video oreven a picture of her sleeping? Yeah,
that makes no sense that this is. This is like, you know,
a preponderance of evidence to prove something, to say, oh, look,
she's totally fine. She was sleepingafter a long day of being in
the swimming hole, and she cougheda little bit. So here she has

(01:05:39):
passed out on two gallons of milkoddly placed between her and Hunter. Right.
No, that's in his body languagetoo, the way it's kind of
I mean, all he sees thearm, but his body is leaned away.
His arm is even on the backexcited the seat. It's not like

(01:06:00):
this, Okay, now I've youknow, I've ridden been seats before,
you put your arm over the back. But it is, oh, everything
is away. It's like he's tryingto be away from Yeah, because he's
freaking out because if she was sleepingand he was a family friend, why
would they not have just rested herhead on him? Yes, exactly.

(01:06:24):
But out there's a barrier. There'sa barrier, there's a box, there's
milk, there's probably groceries underneath thebox, and he's on the other side
of that. He's like, I'mnot gonna touch her, you know,
especially if he's the one who retrievedher and knew that she was gone.
Definitely. Yeah, So is itin the seat belt to And why isn't

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she over here right in the cornerbecause you're not supposed to you're not supposed
to put a kid in the middleseat. But you know, based on
this family, I don't think theygive a shit about that. Well they
don't. It's just okay, you'retalking. Humans across the board are generally
the same psychologically, we're very pathof least resistance, okay, And for

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the kid to sit in the middleseat, there had to be effort because
when you get in you have tomove to that point right right, And
for them to position the groceries,it would have had to have been put
all right, hunter, we're gonnaput that milk right by instead of sitting
it on the floor. And nowthe kid's going to It's like you see
what I mean, It's like themathematics of the way the movements and situationally

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it all breaks down. None ofthis makes sense except to tell a story
exactly. And if the kids arein the car and they strategically just put
the groceries between them like that,like you were saying, like, it
just doesn't they're clearly covering up something. And to take this little quick video
and if you look at the video, canvas is driving, the mom takes

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a quick flip around and she showsa real quick flash of her and that's
where you get the screenshot. Andthen it just comes right back around and
it shuts off, so super fastvideo. Not a lot I mean,
but it gives away a lot.This one image gives away so much.
You know, her hands too.Yeah, it's not just that the one

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is laying like this, it's there'snot even like any flexion in the fingers,
you see what I mean. Yeah, And the only reason that one's
flexed on her left hand is becauseit's laying on her lap, so the
fingers are crawled up underneath. That'sa very strong point, son. And

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if you look at the the handis down the lowest on the left.
Yeah. The thumb, the thumb, it is not relax it's it's it's
up. Yeah, it's yeah.And if you're sleep, everything's going to
be relaxed. Us. I mean. On top of that, it is
whole milk. So that's got tobe a clue right there. Because I

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don't drink milk. I only drinktwo percent, So there's something of that.
O. Man, it's like garlicfor a vampire. Honestly, ginger
gingers can't do a whole milk.So you know there's that another little conspiracy
theory has a soul that cows thatcow's soul isn't that milk? Guys.

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I can only be all right,everybody, I want to wrap up on
that note. I think, uh, you know, I'm still settling with
the water hole caused it she's dead. They're covering it up. I mean,
that's the guys. And if you'renot convinced the milk has the milk,

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it has to you over the edge. It's just bad. Yeah,
hopefully another good case for everybody.I hope you guys enjoyed this one.
Wow, that was something interesting,but again a good choice because it's one
of those those ones where it's like, here's this piece, here's this piece,
here's this piece, and the mathis just not it just right right,

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all right. Well, to everybodythat tuned in today, which there
was quite a few on and offerhere Janet as always, thank you.
You've been a regular lately and Iappreciate that actually for multiple of the shows,
So thank you so much, youknow, and until next time,
you know, we'll probably do anotherone here about a week and a half.
I've already got the story for thenext one. I do want to
give a clue to everybody. I'vediscussed this with Sean Evolution. We are

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going to do an episode called DisneySeption, but I think it's going to
be like a two part episode.Further down the road, we'll probably do
a few more episodes because I wantto do some compiling of evidence for this
one, and I think it'll begood because it'll not just be kind of
the true tales behind the movies,but maybe more in depth behind the scenes

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of Disney, So everybody stay tuned. I think that'll be a good two
parter. But until then, anduntil the next episode, we'll see guys
around, all right, take care