October 13, 2025 • 45 mins
0:00 - A win is a win is a win, but man...The Broncos looked UGLY yesterday in London. They almost lost to a New York Jets team that had -10 passing yards. NEGATIVE. NET. PASSING. YARDS. And yet, the Jets could've won it with a walkoff FG. This is the angriest we've been about a win in a long time.
15:52 - The Broncos are way too undisciplined right now. Pre-snap penalties, special teams gaffes, more penalties, you name it! At least they were playing a completely helpless and brainless Jets team. Denver NEEDS to clean up the little things. My goodness.
33:53 - Death, taxes, and the Colorado Avalanche losing to the Dallas Stars. Saturday was no exception. And of COURSE Mikko looked good in the game, as well. Jared Bednar had a great zinger about the Stars in his postgame presser, and MacKinnon wasn't happy with the home fans booing.
15:52 - The Broncos are way too undisciplined right now. Pre-snap penalties, special teams gaffes, more penalties, you name it! At least they were playing a completely helpless and brainless Jets team. Denver NEEDS to clean up the little things. My goodness.
33:53 - Death, taxes, and the Colorado Avalanche losing to the Dallas Stars. Saturday was no exception. And of COURSE Mikko looked good in the game, as well. Jared Bednar had a great zinger about the Stars in his postgame presser, and MacKinnon wasn't happy with the home fans booing.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
So it has not been pretty, to say the least.
The nine sacks only two more than the number of
punts the Denver offense has brought about. But the most
important formation of the day for a struggling Denver offense
is this one. The victory one as Denver thanks to
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Jonathan Cooper and the rest of that defense. Thanks to them,
they will go home four in two a half game
in front of the Los Angeles Chargers who were taking
on the Dolphins at the top of the hour.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It happened in London and London NFL Network on the call.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Don't you love it when a game ends and their
tone is kind of like this, Well, uh, they won.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
We all felt it. I mean, bottom line, it's a win.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But that game was disgusting in basically every way. No,
you can't even say, like, if you're a fan of
defensive football then this was a game for you because
it wasn't even that. Like, I'm not the Broncos defense
is really good, but there was no threat whatsoever in
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the game. Honestly, the most threatening play on the field
was either going to be a defensive score or a
special teams play. Quite literally, not seen anything like that game.
You know, bo Nicks in the first half. I forget
what the total splits were, but I actually thought the
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beginning of the game both played pretty well and then
just didn't get anything going past halftime. You know, you
look at the numbers. This was with three minutes and
twenty two seconds left in the first half. The Broncos
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had one hundred and twenty five passing yards. They finished
with one hundred and sixty eight, but the yardage in
the game was one seventy five to one. First downs
at that point were eight to nothing. Total plays ran,
We're thirty two to twelve. Yards per play were five
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and a half two point one per play, and the
Jets had the football with a chance to score and
take the lead before half. I mean, what am I
supposed to do with that? And it comes down to
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kind of the same thing over and over again, And
it's the biggest concern I have for this team, this
roster and ultimately where they want to go. The team
has an issue, and the issue is this this stuff
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that makes winning football teams and championship level contenders is
that they do the small things better than anybody else.
And the Broncos really struggle at that. How many times
do you have a first down or a big play
called back due to a penalty, which we'll get to
in a little bit with the Matt part stuff that
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was going on in that game, because not having been
powers is an obvious problem. We'll get to that in
a second. But the amount of penalties that you take
that negate gigantic plays happens way too much. The special
teams blunder is almost a guarantee once a week.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, how do.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
The New York Jets have six points with one yard
after what would it be, twenty eight minutes of football?
They moved the ball one yard and they have six points.
Why because you turn the ball over the third play
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of the game on the fumble that left them in
field goal position, and you allowed a seventy two yard
kickoff return. Just for the record, the Jets had eighty
two yards of total offense and a seventy two yard
kickoff return. That's the kind of stuff that can lose
you football games. That game should have been fifty to
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nothing blowout, worst game we've ever seen, and instead the
Jets have the football with a chance to win at
the end. The lucky thing is that the Jets were
even worse than you in that category. Like Aaron glenn Is,
he looks way over in way over his head. It
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reminds me a lot of Hackett, to be honest, watching
him on that opposite sideline, and the what happened at
the end of that first half and then the explanations
afterwards was just crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But when you have.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
A big problem doing the little things to win a
football game, you're going to end up losing multiple games
that you shouldn't and you're gonna end up losing a
lot to a lot of good teams more often than
you should. Like two specific examples, and I think the
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games that you were the worst in these categories were
both in Week one against the Titans in this last
weekend against the Jets, and you happen to get through
with wins because those are the two worst teams in
the league. But it is a gigantic concern that this
is not figured out through six weeks, that you're having
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a discipline problem.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You know, the Broncos right now.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I believe they're minus three in turnover margin so far
this year, which is it's not the worst in the league,
but it's up there.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I do want to give I do want to give.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
A little bit of credence to the defense, even though
they aren't necessarily taking the ball away. You wrack up
nine sacks in a game that's essentially like getting turnovers.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I mean, it's pretty damn close.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, you know, I went into that game saying London
games are weird, and that was certainly weird. It's just
something about that start time in a place where he
had to travel a whole lot, and I feel like
it's really difficult for teams to get into a rhythm.
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That was obviously the case in this game. But there
are You get the win, you keep pacing the AFC West.
You're foreign too, you're tied with the Chargers, who barely
snuck by the Dolphins last week, so you're in position
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to compete for this division. But man, it hurts that
you go out there and you play the way that
you did. Sean Payton wasn't happy after the game. A
lot of people weren't, and I understand why. The only
people that were happy. Were was anybody wearing a Broncos
jersey on the defensive side. They all should be because
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they all just started racking up numbers like crazy. Sack
for you, sack for you, Jonathan Cooper, you can have
a couple, Justice, Jnad you have a couple. I mean
kind of everybody got in on the action. But I
don't know how you guys feel this morning. It's just like,
it's very difficult to assess this team. Are they good
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enough to compete?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah? Of course.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Are the Broncos in a position where I would consider
them contenders?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Not really, They're in this weird spot.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And I've thought this a couple of times about the
Avson Nuggets in toown over the last couple of years.
They're certainly good enough to beat anybody in this league.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I don't think there's any question about it. They can
beat anybody. They can.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But I don't think any games a guarantee with them either.
Last year that was kind of the case. If they
played against an inferior opponent, they would win and they
would make you pay.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
This year isn't.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And there's a whole bunch of reasons why we can
go through and things that we're gonna pick at this game.
You know, it's good to do this in a win.
And I don't want to be like fully negative on
the show today. It was just I don't know how
for as well as the defense played, they've finished with
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negative ten yards total in passing yards negative ten? Is
that all the defense just kicked your ass? Or is
it you have zero ability to move the ball on offense.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I think what I think happened in this game is
I think Sean Payton forgot to convert his call sheet
to metric. Yeah, you must have still been calling plays
and feet and miles instead of kilometers, because what the
heck was he doing?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So I want to save the Sean Payton stuff. There's
a bigger discussion here, and it's gonna be something that's
gonna sound hypocritical if you've.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Heard like.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Any of the show over the last six, seven, eight months, year,
two years, whatever, it's gonna sound hypocritical for me to
say this, But it does have to do with flow
of the game. And I found Sean Payton's play calling
very odd this year. There are times that he is
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not committed to the run in the past, and I
think he's done a much better job this year. Hell,
he did a good job in that game. But it's
almost like bo Knicks was in a rhythm in the
first half and you were struggling to run the football
and then you just you didn't really give boon Nicks
his opportunities in the second Again, we'll get to it
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in a second, but Texas says this. You see that's
the problem, right, You, like everyone else, assumed that the
other team isn't a team of paid professionals. I didn't
see any professionals on the field other than the Broncos
defense yesterday.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Didn't see it at all. I mean, what's.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
What's sort of the the the thing you're getting at here.
I mean, the Broncos played against a Jets defense that
going into that game.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Was as bad as anybody.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I mean, you put them up there or there with
the Ravens and the Bengals and all these different teams
as far as giving up yardage, as far as giving
up points.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Like I will fully admit, I think.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Their defense is probably better than their numbers state because
their offense can't do anything and they're always on the field.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But it's it was like shocking to watch that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Whereby every single number, every single statistic, you have an
indication that the Broncos should have dominating, should have dominated
that game in one big and they couldn't. I don't
care who you are. If you a professional football team
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to negative ten passing yards at the end of four quarters,
you should have won that game by thirty points. I've
never seen it, but I think you could just take
that game. You want to watch what that game was.
You look at the final three minutes of that first half,
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and that'll give you a perfect picture. Like I'm still
having trouble processing what was going through anybody's had, anyone's
like you had. On one hand, the Jets, who if
you remember, Nelly faked a punt on fourth down, picked
up the first down. That was a wild sequence because
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all they kept showing Darren Rizzy and Sean Payton screaming
on the sideline before the play was happening, almost like
they knew what was coming.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And the Jets run.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
It anyway, they barely pick it up, and they they
what they picked up the first down, and we're aggressive
on fourth just to not do anything at the end
of the half. Like this answer from Aaron Glenn about
what happened at the end of the first half.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
That at the end of the first half, with not
running a play just run out.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
So I knew were getting the ball back, and I
think it was like third and seven to third and eight,
And at that point we didn't know we got the
first down or nine, because I know one ref was
saying yes, no, it was no. So once it got
the fourth down, gods, I'm not about to sit there
and try to get a playoff and they will get
the ball back and I think they had a time
out left and give them a chance to kick a
field goal. I don't think that's the smartest thing to do.
So let's just in the half, we get the ball
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back and see what we can get a chance to score.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, but you could also just throw up a hell
Mary with a second left. You're at the fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So when was the time to call it time out?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Well, they didn't have.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
A timeout and they couldn't spike the ball because it
was fourth down, but they had thirty seconds just to
be like, Okay, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait until it hits two seconds and then everybody run deep.
But here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Sean Payton could have called they had a time out left,
They could have called a timeout with thirty seconds left,
forcing the punt.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Maybe got in the ball back Like I don't know
what anybody was doing.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
The only joy I took out of it was that
the defense for the Broncos was laughing as they were
running to the locker room because they were as confused
as anybody else. Everything about that game was just like,
why did you do that? I just kept asking myself
that question over and over and over again. So a
lot more to get to on this rally House victory Monday.
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It is a victory, and again I don't want to
be totally negative. There are some positives all defensive that
we'll get to in a little bit. But just a weird,
weird game and thank god they came away with the
doub We'll get more into it next.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, we got in some loaded fronts. I didn't think
we played well up front. You know what, we started
to hit a few runs late. This was a game
I thought coming in we were going to be able
to run the ball pretty well, and we weren't as
effective as we would have liked to have been. Obviously.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
You know, first half we were going quick, getting the
ball to different players, spreading the ball around, getting them
in certain defenses where we get softer coverage, and then
you know, obviously there in the second half felt kind
of like the opposite. You know, a lot of run,
heavy looks, a lot of loaded boxes and then just
complete lack of rhythm.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, Rally House Football Monday at Rally House Shop, every
team in town.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I just.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Getting a bunch of texts coming through here, a lot
of them calling us dumb, which is true.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But I will say, if.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
There's one thing in my defense that I did say
about this, it did feel to me, and I said
this over and over again, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Nellie, that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
London games are weird and teams that feel like you
should blow out just they can happen, but I wouldn't
be surprised if they didn't. Now, I thought the Broncos
would win comfortably, and that certainly did not happen. But
I think we learned a couple things.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
We learned not having ben powers as an issue.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
You know, you went into that game playing against a
Jets defense, and Sean Payton said it thinking that they
were going to have the ability to run the football
pretty well. The Jets have given up a ton of
rushing yards before that. You know they're at one hundred
and thirty yards per game. Now, I think that it's
probably they might have jumped four spots after that game
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ended yesterday. You couldn't run the football effectively because Ben
Powers wasn't in the middle, and he's a very good
run blocking guard. They put in Matt Part is that
the way that we're gonna say it now, Part who
before I think the first quarter end had had three penalties,
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really struggled and I wondered, other he like, he's a guard,
but it's just not easy to be interchangeable on like
going inside and outside. It's two different positions, it's two
different ways to play. He really struggled in a lot
of different categories, and two big plays were called back
because of penalties because they were on him.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So I mean, that's the obvious that he struggled a
lot in filling in for Ben Powers.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But more than that, it just felt like you played dumb,
And that's what's most disappointing. You played dumb, and it's
the only reason why you didn't blow that team out.
At no point in that game did it ever feel
like the Jets should have been within four touchdowns. They
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scored six points on two different possessions before they got
a first down. How is that even possible? So you
go through the list of things of like what was
really the big issues here, and I think very much so.
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Penalties and a lack of discipline are killers. They happen
a lot, and that's just not a sign of a
team that is Like discipline.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Is.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
It's a must if you're going to contend for really anything,
whether that's a division, a conference, a super Bowl, whatever,
you need to have it. But the Broncos continue to
struggle in that category. Here's what I wanted to get
to with the Peyton play calling stuff. I've been pounding
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the table for him to stick with the run in
games like that, like even if you're struggling, stick with
it and hope that it breaks through.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And he did, and I think that.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
There is a certain level of kudos that needs to
be given to Sean Payton for it. But it's where
it's going to sound hypocritical, but I think you guys
will know what I'm talking about here.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
There is a flow of a football game.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That when something's working and something else isn't you kind
of stick with it.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Now?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
When the second half started, I thought Boennicks played well
in the first half.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I did.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
You only came away with ten points because of some
stupid other stuff that happened. Again, I think penalties that
negated first downs. You had the fumble on the third
play that first drive, a lot of weird stuff, but
all at all, I thought that bo Knicks was playing
a normal, decent bon Knicks game. And the second half
starts and he had I believe, two passing attempts until
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the thirteen minute mark in the fourth quarter. Now reasons
for it. You had that weird drive that was like
one play where he had the holding penalty in the
end zone and that turned into a safety and it
gave you the first deficit of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Like the first drive was JK. Dobbins or I'm sorry yeah, JK.
Dobbins run.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
RJ.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Harvey run.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And then an incomplete pass which didn't even matter because
it was another penalty and it was a legal man downfield,
so they declined it you punt, so you got three
and out.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Second drive.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Was they tried the big play Detroy Franklin that missed,
but it was a holding on Miners and they kept
saying that it was Bulls. I'm pretty sure it was
Quinn Miners that had the holding the end zone for
the safety right because Eisen kept saying Garrett Bulls, and
I'm like that, First of all, it didn't look like
that's what the penalty was. Second of all, they keep
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showing Quinn Miners on the bench, so I'm assuming it
was him.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Holding offense number seventy two.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'll tell you the one that really bothered me, though,
it was the drive after that. The Jets take the
lead eleven to ten. You're starting your own drive at
the eighteen yard line after you forced another three and
out and it was an incompletion. It was a run
for a no gain. So it's third and ten and
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I get it. You're at your own eighteen third and ten,
and what do they do. They run the ball, which
was an odd decision because it's not third and twenty
where you're just basically giving up and not wanting to
make a mistake.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's third and ten.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But out of all people they run the ball with,
it's Prentice. That should never be on a third and ten.
In fact, Prentice should never be touching the football. And
this is like a common thing that's happened with Sean
Payton since he's been here that I don't understand why
he wants to give the full back to football. You know,
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if you have Kyle Yuscheck or you have mikee. Olstatt
from back in the day, maybe feed him a couple
of times. Prentice, no disrespect, but the guy that you
signed two days before the season started because you didn't
have a fullback on the team and you wanted a
guy in there to block, shouldn't be touching the football
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just like last year at the goal line, like multiple
times he gives the ball to Burton. I'm like, you
have running backs this year. You have pretty good ones.
If you are going to run the ball on third down,
then run the ball with.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
One of them.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But you shouldn't be running the football at all on
third and ten because your quarterback had a these first half.
And that's where I just don't get it, Like there's
a flow to the game that you have to feel.
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You know, in the past, the Nuggets weren't a team
that was built to shoot a lot of threes. But
if it's a game where your three point shooting is hot,
then shoot threes. If it's not, then work the ball
inside like you do. Always set up the floaters and
have Aaron Gordon in the dunker spot and have Murray
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taken pull up seventeen footers like But if you're hitting
your threes, then stick with it. And this is one
of those games where the running was not working. But
I thought you had a decent flow in the passing
game in the first half when you weren't committing penalties
or fumbling the ball like Troy Franklin did after he
caught it. And on third and ten it's a run
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to Adam Prentiss. When you finally are down eleven to
ten and you know the Jets can't move the football.
I just nothing made sense. Didn't understand it at all.
So I mean, yeah, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That I had.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
About the play calling and what was going through. Sean
Payton's at A text says this, this sounds right. I don't
know if this is, but it sounds right from what
I remember that Nix was fifteen to twenty four, one
hundred and twenty five yards and a touchdown before the
second half started.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's third and ten.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Trust him and if you can't trust your quarterback, then
that's a completely different thing, because that's the only reason
I can think of why you would run Adam Prentiss
on third and ten. It's because you didn't trust that
your quarterback was going to make the right decisions, which,
first of all, I don't understand why you'd feel that
in that game, because bow Nick seemed fine. Second of all,
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if you can't trust your quarterback in that situation, then
you got other issues that you're dealing with, like very obviously, Nelly.
Aaron Glenn did not trust Justin Fields at all, and
there's good reasons for it, because Justin Fields was terrible
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and I understand that the offensive line of the Jets
was overwhelmed by the Broncos defense, but you taking nine
sacks in the game as wild And Aaron Glenn was
asked if Justin Fields is still going to be the
story order after the game.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Here's what he said, numbers are not good for this game.
Is he going to be your quarterback next week?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Or would you just say what kind of question is that?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Look, you did not have a good game.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I mean, I think it's a fair question.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
There's a number of guys that you know.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
I mean sometimes this league is like this and there
are guys that have bad games. That doesn't mean you
just bench them. Come on, you know better than that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, but you do think about benching guys who
roer and six.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I don't know if you remember this, Nolly.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I said this before the season started, that Aron Glenn's
got the kind of personality where things go badly. The
New York media is going to start to get after you,
and he's going to get into some back and forth
with some people in the postgame press conferences. And I
don't know how that's going to come off, but I'm
telling you, I get a lot and I like Aaron
Glenn just like I like Nate Hackett. But I get
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a lot of Hacket vibes from that of a guy
who just feels like that that's too much for him
right now. And then I've said this before. I said
up with Dion a few weeks ago. By the way,
shout out to the Buffs and CSU for both getting
a win. There's something about a coach and a postgame
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press conference that will take ownership about something that they
did clearly wrong. And when Aaron Glenn didn't own up
to the end of that first half stuff. I think
that's a bad sign because you got to know I
messed that up.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You got to.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Texas says the Jets offensive line was simply overpowered.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yes, I mean there's no question.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Now, I guess to the positives here Again, it's a win,
but doesn't feel totally like that. We'll get to the positives.
Your defense is so overwhelmingly great that you have to
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play on the opposite side of the football a pretty
damn near perfect brand of offense to make things work
against them. If you put yourself in a situation where
it is an obvious passing situation, look the hell out
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because there's gonna be about three guys jumping on top
of your quarterback by the end of the play, and
you better pray to God that he's got the football out.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Of his hands.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
The Broncos are on pace right now, not just to
break the single season record for sacks, to shatter it.
There was a number that Vic had last night on Twitter.
I'll look it up real quick. But what the pace
is for the Broncos in in this game or in
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this season and what they could get to. So the
single season record by a team in sacks is seventy two.
It was set by the eighty four Bears. The twenty
twenty two Eagles were in second. They have seventy. They
had seventy as a team. The Broncos are on pace
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for eighty five to beat the record by thirteen sacks. Now,
you throw a nine sack game in there, it skews
the scales a little bit, and it's not gonna be
like that every week, but it's just sort of an
indicator of what the hell this defense is doing to
opposing quarterbacks every week, and how much they dial up
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pressure and get home.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Because it's one thing to call a blitz.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It's one thing to dial up some sort of exotic,
weird stunt or something that gets somebody in position.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's another thing to actually get there.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Teams blitz a lot, and a lot of times those
guys get bogged down at the line of scrimmage, and
now you got cornerbacks and one on one situations and
quarterbacks beat them. Now, it's nice when you play against
a guy like fields where it feels like you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Are not.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Uh, you're not going to be threatened if you don't
get home, But it gives you a real indicator of
like this is you know PS two talked about it
in the offseason that he thinks they could be a
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historic defense, like one that goes.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Down in an NFL history, and they have all the
ability to do so because just these numbers are unbelievable.
I mean, think about this for a second.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Had it not been for the offense or special teams
bleep ups. There was one drive where the defense allowed points,
and that was to open up the second half they
allowed Can you believe this? How awful were they? They
allowed a ten play, thirty seven yard drive that resulted
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in a thirty eight yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
What bombs.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's the only thing they did. The only other way
that the Jets scored points was off of a fumble
by the offense where they went four plays for three
yards in a field goal. It was a kickoff return
that was returned to the twenty four yard line that
went four plays for one yard and a field goal,
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and then a safety in which those points were given
up when the defense was standing on the sideline. So yeah,
not all bad, but we all kind of know when
the defense plays, well, you're happy, but you're like, I
know that they're going to play well, why couldn't the
offense get it in gear? So again, shop Masda text
(33:11):
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A lot more to get to with this game, a
lot more to get to from everything the Avs played
over the weekend against Dallas, and they still can't get
over that Stars hump.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The the Atmiko.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Once again buried would end up being the the final
goal of the game in the shootout. Also, college football
was super bizarre over the weekend, upsets like crazy. Weirdest
thing is that both SeeU and CSU won, so a
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whole bunch to get to on this rally House football
Monday stigure out rally House victory Monday, Well, it's like that.
I'm chefter at nine o'clock this morning. So the Avs
still have a Stars problem.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Now, Nellie, there's a clip that I sent you a
Bedsy in the postgame and a quote that he had
that I agree with him.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Also, also, this is something that if it were the
shoe on the other foot, I would have this clip
as a SoundBite for the rest of this show's history.
And it does just kind of speak to Dallas and
what they've been this thorn in the side of the Avs.
(34:44):
Did the Avs play well at times yes and at
times no. There is an obvious saltiness from certainly the
app on a couple of different categories now to start
the year. So the Avs lose their first game, now
(35:05):
it's done so in a shootout, so you do get
the point out of it. I think there's still a
lot of bright spots going on. I think Marty Natchius
and the start to his year that he's had has
been fantastic. I think Gavin Brinley for somebody that is
going to be buried at the bottom of your roster
and I get a ton of minutes, but if you
need somebody in a pinch, he looks like he is
capable of stepping up and rising to the occasion. But
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let's be honest. It felt a lot like the playoff
series right where you dominated a lot of five on
five hockey, and then he got some special teams categories
and the stars sort of stepped up in the other areas.
You know, they were able to get a lot of
block shots, they were able to get in front of
you create traffic like do all of that really good
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job of stacking bodies in front of the net. Ottinger
was fantastic, thirty five saves. But Harry this in the
post game go ahead the.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Schedule is But is it frustrating?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like do you wish you were facing Dalaxy in sooner
than March?
Speaker 8 (36:08):
No, I don't care. Oh, I would love to never
see him again.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
That clip right there, I'm just telling you, I know
where he's coming from.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Nellie.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
If this were the other way around and the Dallas
coach said, I'd be fine never seeing them again. That's
going to be right here on my board for the
rest of the time.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Oh. I would love to never see him again.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And he's right, like, screw Dallas.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Whatever it is like there's some hocus pocus voodoo magic
that's going on that you can't get past them.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I'm of the mind I almost think that in situations
like this, I want to play these guys in a
playoff series just to like finally get over it. But
they're good. It's a good hockey team. Still always find
a way to just hang around, hanging out, hang around,
and then when they need the big play, they make
the big play. They're really good at it.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
What was that I didn't recognize what you said there
hanging around You said that kind of weird hanging around,
hanging around around, they're like vic impersonating Teddy KGV.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, it's just it's true.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean, they jump to a one to zero lead,
you battle back, you grab a two to one lead,
and then they answer right back shortly afterwards, and then
they take three too, but then you tie it up
and then they it's just boom boom boom constantly. McKinnon,
by the way, not very happy either with the crowd. Now,
I think the crowd, and I've been on this forever,
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you have in reserve the right as a ticket paying
customer to voice whatever emotion that you feel within reason.
As long as you weren't calling people out, you know,
like awful names or getting really personal with people, I
think you have the right to voice your displeasure with
a boo. Kennon didn't outright say that you can't, but
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he certainly wasn't happy with some of the sounds being
uttered from the crowd.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
After the power Play Listen.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Power Play got back on the board today too.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Just how are you feeling about how that's being deployed
so far.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
What do you mean, just how do you feel like it's.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Looking so much? Oh? I thought it was really good tonight,
really good tonight, A lot of great chances. I know
we're getting booed. I guess they don't really know what
a good power play looks like. We had a ton
of chances and just nothing was going in and we
finally got one. So I guess they got a boos more.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
You obviously didn't like the booze. I think there are
different types of booze.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Within a game.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
There is a boo of your team, which happens quite often.
There is a boo of a situation, which could also happen. Yet,
understand when the thing that hurts you most, and the
thing that I think could be a direct one to
one correlation of ending your season, which is power play
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stunk last year in the postseason, and that's what what
kind of burned you when you have an entire offseason
to sit on that as a fan base and then
it struggles. And I agree with him is a lot
It looked a lot better in that game. They just
couldn't get a finish. But I know why the crowd
is booing. They just wanted to be what it usually
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looks like for a talented Avalanche team, and the numbers
are close to what they were over the course of
the year, but it feels like just a ton of
opportunities that were just missed.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Win more games. Cub scout, Yeah, but I do think
the power play looked good.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
At the same time, I think you also kind of
just gotta gotta eat a boo everyone in a while.
Doesn't happen all that often. Uh, But the Avs can't
get over whatever that hump.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Is that Dallas possesses.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Now moving on to college football, both CSU and CU
get a win in a very surprising way. Now, if
you remember Iowa State, it's a weird team. They're ranked,
but they were an underdog the previous week against Cincinnati
and got shellac. Now final score doesn't indicate that, but
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they got worked around pretty good. They were a slight
favorite heading into this game against CU in the CEE
Who's credit And I think it's it's awesome that, especially
in the week that Dion had where he had another
surgery for the blood cut clode problem, he's on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It showed some resolve, it showed some balls Okay.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
To go out and win a game like that, and
I think it's really cool that they did it in
a week that was pretty tumultuous.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
For their head coach.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Personally, I thought Caden Saltz played a really good game
that he looked really solid and made good plays. I
still have problems with what happened inside the game. Didn't
like he couldn't stop the run more than anything else.
The common issue that continues to creep up with Deon
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coached football teams are this, and it drives me nuts.
There's fifty three seconds left in the first half. A
play is just made in which you get down to
the one yard line, you know it's going to result
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in a score. You have timeouts in your pocket. Iowa
State makes a big play down to the one. You
call a time out, thinking if they do get in
the end zone, which let's be honest, first and one
from the goal they probably are going to, you can
serve time for your offense to get the ball back
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and respond. And instead, what happens is that clock bleeds
down to twenty seconds left and then you have no
time to do anything. Now see, you got a good
kick return and they had the opportunity for a field goal,
but you could have had an extra thirty seconds to
work with, And to me, that's just basic stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Do you call it time out there?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
So when was the time to call it time out?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Fifty three seconds on the clock? One yard line?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Very easy, honestly, not to be insulting, but it feels
like anybody who's played Madden before knows you call a
time out there, and the fact that nobody else is
in Deigon's ear being like, hey, let's get a time out,
Like where's Schrmer screaming in the headset? Give me a
timeout for my offense, because what's the plan that the
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clock's going to run out? And Iowa was stayed at
the one yard line? Not gonna happen. So yeah, little
stuff still bothered me. But all in all, I thought
it was a great battle to get back into that
game in the second half.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
A couple of really good drives in the third quarter
to get.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
You into it, and then to be be able to
close out the game was really good.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
On the CSU part, it felt kind of the same.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
You put up thirty five points in the first half, Nelly,
they were up thirty five to seven, that's a team
that put up three points against Wazoo, who ironically almost
beat o Miss.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
This weekend, which was bizarre.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
But it's thirty five to seven, and then it gets
to thirty five to twenty one and I start thinking, uh, oh,
are they.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Gonna let go of this rope?
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And it's like they kind of tried, but to their credit,
defense stiffened up when they had to force two straight
turnover on downs and then the game was over after that.
So good football over the weekend for those two teams,
and I think a very much needed win for both
of them.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Now the rest of college football. Was it a full
moon this weekend or something?
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Because the Brett Coin lock of the week was a disaster.
I thought that Oregon was gonna go, you know, especially
playing at home against Indiana kick him in the teeth
and Mendoza, who I think is a really good quarterback,
just kept Indiana in it and kept making the right
play at the right time and they win thirty to twenty.
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Washington State damn near upsets number four Ole Miss at home.
You had Texas that laid a whooping on Oklahoma, especially
with their defensive play MISSOO almost beat Alabama Georgia, Auburn
was close, LSU South Carolina was close. Arkansamast beat Tennessee,
like USC over Michigan.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
You keep going down the line.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
College football was bizarre over the weekend, So a whole
bunch more to get into. But get back to the
Broncos in a win that didn't really feel like it.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
So it has not been pretty, to say the least.
The nine sacks only two more than the number of
punts the Denver offense has brought about. But the most
important formation of the day for a struggling Denver offense
is this one. The victory one as Denver thanks to
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Jonathan Cooper and the rest of that defense. Thanks to them,
they will go home four in two a half game
in front of the Los Angeles Chargers who were taking
on the Dolphins at the top of the hour.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
It happened in London and London NFL Network on the call.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Don't you love it when a game ends and their
tone is kind of like this, Well, uh, they won.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
We all felt it. I mean, bottom line, it's a win.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
But that game was disgusting in basically every way. No,
you can't even say, like, if you're a fan of
defensive football then this was a game for you because
it wasn't even that. Like, I'm not the Broncos defense
is really good, but there was no threat whatsoever in
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the game. Honestly, the most threatening play on the field
was either going to be a defensive score or a
special teams play. Quite literally, not seen anything like that game.
You know, bo Nicks in the first half. I forget
what the total splits were, but I actually thought the
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beginning of the game both played pretty well and then
just didn't get anything going past halftime. You know, you
look at the numbers. This was with three minutes and
twenty two seconds left in the first half. The Broncos
(02:37):
had one hundred and twenty five passing yards. They finished
with one hundred and sixty eight, but the yardage in
the game was one seventy five to one. First downs
at that point were eight to nothing. Total plays ran,
We're thirty two to twelve. Yards per play were five
(02:58):
and a half two point one per play, and the
Jets had the football with a chance to score and
take the lead before half. I mean, what am I
supposed to do with that? And it comes down to
(03:23):
kind of the same thing over and over again, And
it's the biggest concern I have for this team, this
roster and ultimately where they want to go. The team
has an issue, and the issue is this this stuff
(03:43):
that makes winning football teams and championship level contenders is
that they do the small things better than anybody else.
And the Broncos really struggle at that. How many times
do you have a first down or a big play
called back due to a penalty, which we'll get to
in a little bit with the Matt part stuff that
(04:06):
was going on in that game, because not having been
powers is an obvious problem. We'll get to that in
a second. But the amount of penalties that you take
that negate gigantic plays happens way too much. The special
teams blunder is almost a guarantee once a week.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
I mean, how do.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
The New York Jets have six points with one yard
after what would it be, twenty eight minutes of football?
They moved the ball one yard and they have six points.
Why because you turn the ball over the third play
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of the game on the fumble that left them in
field goal position, and you allowed a seventy two yard
kickoff return. Just for the record, the Jets had eighty
two yards of total offense and a seventy two yard
kickoff return. That's the kind of stuff that can lose
you football games. That game should have been fifty to
(05:15):
nothing blowout, worst game we've ever seen, and instead the
Jets have the football with a chance to win at
the end. The lucky thing is that the Jets were
even worse than you in that category. Like Aaron glenn Is,
he looks way over in way over his head. It
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reminds me a lot of Hackett, to be honest, watching
him on that opposite sideline, and the what happened at
the end of that first half and then the explanations
afterwards was just crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
But when you have.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
A big problem doing the little things to win a
football game, you're going to end up losing multiple games
that you shouldn't and you're gonna end up losing a
lot to a lot of good teams more often than
you should. Like two specific examples, and I think the
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games that you were the worst in these categories were
both in Week one against the Titans in this last
weekend against the Jets, and you happen to get through
with wins because those are the two worst teams in
the league. But it is a gigantic concern that this
is not figured out through six weeks, that you're having
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a discipline problem.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
You know, the Broncos right now.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I believe they're minus three in turnover margin so far
this year, which is it's not the worst in the league,
but it's up there.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I do want to give I do want to give.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
A little bit of credence to the defense, even though
they aren't necessarily taking the ball away. You wrack up
nine sacks in a game that's essentially like getting turnovers.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I mean, it's pretty damn close.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Yeah, you know, I went into that game saying London
games are weird, and that was certainly weird. It's just
something about that start time in a place where he
had to travel a whole lot, and I feel like
it's really difficult for teams to get into a rhythm.
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That was obviously the case in this game. But there
are You get the win, you keep pacing the AFC West.
You're foreign too, you're tied with the Chargers, who barely
snuck by the Dolphins last week, so you're in position
(08:02):
to compete for this division. But man, it hurts that
you go out there and you play the way that
you did. Sean Payton wasn't happy after the game. A
lot of people weren't, and I understand why. The only
people that were happy. Were was anybody wearing a Broncos
jersey on the defensive side. They all should be because
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they all just started racking up numbers like crazy. Sack
for you, sack for you, Jonathan Cooper, you can have
a couple, Justice, Jnad you have a couple. I mean
kind of everybody got in on the action. But I
don't know how you guys feel this morning. It's just like,
it's very difficult to assess this team. Are they good
(08:46):
enough to compete?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah? Of course.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Are the Broncos in a position where I would consider
them contenders?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Not really, They're in this weird spot.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
And I've thought this a couple of times about the
Avson Nuggets in toown over the last couple of years.
They're certainly good enough to beat anybody in this league.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I don't think there's any question about it. They can
beat anybody. They can.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
But I don't think any games a guarantee with them either.
Last year that was kind of the case. If they
played against an inferior opponent, they would win and they
would make you pay.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
This year isn't.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
And there's a whole bunch of reasons why we can
go through and things that we're gonna pick at this game.
You know, it's good to do this in a win.
And I don't want to be like fully negative on
the show today. It was just I don't know how
for as well as the defense played, they've finished with
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negative ten yards total in passing yards negative ten? Is
that all the defense just kicked your ass? Or is
it you have zero ability to move the ball on offense.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
I think what I think happened in this game is
I think Sean Payton forgot to convert his call sheet
to metric. Yeah, you must have still been calling plays
and feet and miles instead of kilometers, because what the
heck was he doing?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
So I want to save the Sean Payton stuff. There's
a bigger discussion here, and it's gonna be something that's
gonna sound hypocritical if you've.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Heard like.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Any of the show over the last six, seven, eight months, year,
two years, whatever, it's gonna sound hypocritical for me to
say this, But it does have to do with flow
of the game. And I found Sean Payton's play calling
very odd this year. There are times that he is
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not committed to the run in the past, and I
think he's done a much better job this year. Hell,
he did a good job in that game. But it's
almost like bo Knicks was in a rhythm in the
first half and you were struggling to run the football
and then you just you didn't really give boon Nicks
his opportunities in the second Again, we'll get to it
(11:20):
in a second, but Texas says this. You see that's
the problem, right, You, like everyone else, assumed that the
other team isn't a team of paid professionals. I didn't
see any professionals on the field other than the Broncos
defense yesterday.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Didn't see it at all. I mean, what's.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
What's sort of the the the thing you're getting at here.
I mean, the Broncos played against a Jets defense that
going into that game.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Was as bad as anybody.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I mean, you put them up there or there with
the Ravens and the Bengals and all these different teams
as far as giving up yardage, as far as giving
up points.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Like I will fully admit, I think.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Their defense is probably better than their numbers state because
their offense can't do anything and they're always on the field.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
But it's it was like shocking to watch that.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Whereby every single number, every single statistic, you have an
indication that the Broncos should have dominating, should have dominated
that game in one big and they couldn't. I don't
care who you are. If you a professional football team
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to negative ten passing yards at the end of four quarters,
you should have won that game by thirty points. I've
never seen it, but I think you could just take
that game. You want to watch what that game was.
You look at the final three minutes of that first half,
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and that'll give you a perfect picture. Like I'm still
having trouble processing what was going through anybody's had, anyone's
like you had. On one hand, the Jets, who if
you remember, Nelly faked a punt on fourth down, picked
up the first down. That was a wild sequence because
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all they kept showing Darren Rizzy and Sean Payton screaming
on the sideline before the play was happening, almost like
they knew what was coming.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And the Jets run.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
It anyway, they barely pick it up, and they they
what they picked up the first down, and we're aggressive
on fourth just to not do anything at the end
of the half. Like this answer from Aaron Glenn about
what happened at the end of the first half.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
That at the end of the first half, with not
running a play just run out.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
So I knew were getting the ball back, and I
think it was like third and seven to third and eight,
And at that point we didn't know we got the
first down or nine, because I know one ref was
saying yes, no, it was no. So once it got
the fourth down, gods, I'm not about to sit there
and try to get a playoff and they will get
the ball back and I think they had a time
out left and give them a chance to kick a
field goal. I don't think that's the smartest thing to do.
So let's just in the half, we get the ball
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back and see what we can get a chance to score.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Yeah, but you could also just throw up a hell
Mary with a second left. You're at the fifty.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So when was the time to call it time out?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Well, they didn't have.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
A timeout and they couldn't spike the ball because it
was fourth down, but they had thirty seconds just to
be like, Okay, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait until it hits two seconds and then everybody run deep.
But here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Sean Payton could have called they had a time out left,
They could have called a timeout with thirty seconds left,
forcing the punt.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Maybe got in the ball back Like I don't know
what anybody was doing.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
The only joy I took out of it was that
the defense for the Broncos was laughing as they were
running to the locker room because they were as confused
as anybody else. Everything about that game was just like,
why did you do that? I just kept asking myself
that question over and over and over again. So a
lot more to get to on this rally House victory Monday.
(15:39):
It is a victory, and again I don't want to
be totally negative. There are some positives all defensive that
we'll get to in a little bit. But just a weird,
weird game and thank god they came away with the
doub We'll get more into it next.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Yeah, we got in some loaded fronts. I didn't think
we played well up front. You know what, we started
to hit a few runs late. This was a game
I thought coming in we were going to be able
to run the ball pretty well, and we weren't as
effective as we would have liked to have been. Obviously.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
You know, first half we were going quick, getting the
ball to different players, spreading the ball around, getting them
in certain defenses where we get softer coverage, and then
you know, obviously there in the second half felt kind
of like the opposite. You know, a lot of run,
heavy looks, a lot of loaded boxes and then just
complete lack of rhythm.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, Rally House Football Monday at Rally House Shop, every
team in town.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
I just.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Getting a bunch of texts coming through here, a lot
of them calling us dumb, which is true.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
But I will say, if.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
There's one thing in my defense that I did say
about this, it did feel to me, and I said
this over and over again, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Nellie, that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
London games are weird and teams that feel like you
should blow out just they can happen, but I wouldn't
be surprised if they didn't. Now, I thought the Broncos
would win comfortably, and that certainly did not happen. But
I think we learned a couple things.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
We learned not having ben powers as an issue.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
You know, you went into that game playing against a
Jets defense, and Sean Payton said it thinking that they
were going to have the ability to run the football
pretty well. The Jets have given up a ton of
rushing yards before that. You know they're at one hundred
and thirty yards per game. Now, I think that it's
probably they might have jumped four spots after that game
(17:52):
ended yesterday. You couldn't run the football effectively because Ben
Powers wasn't in the middle, and he's a very good
run blocking guard. They put in Matt Part is that
the way that we're gonna say it now, Part who
before I think the first quarter end had had three penalties,
(18:16):
really struggled and I wondered, other he like, he's a guard,
but it's just not easy to be interchangeable on like
going inside and outside. It's two different positions, it's two
different ways to play. He really struggled in a lot
of different categories, and two big plays were called back
because of penalties because they were on him.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
So I mean, that's the obvious that he struggled a
lot in filling in for Ben Powers.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
But more than that, it just felt like you played dumb,
And that's what's most disappointing. You played dumb, and it's
the only reason why you didn't blow that team out.
At no point in that game did it ever feel
like the Jets should have been within four touchdowns. They
(19:11):
scored six points on two different possessions before they got
a first down. How is that even possible? So you
go through the list of things of like what was
really the big issues here, and I think very much so.
(19:32):
Penalties and a lack of discipline are killers. They happen
a lot, and that's just not a sign of a
team that is Like discipline.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
Is.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
It's a must if you're going to contend for really anything,
whether that's a division, a conference, a super Bowl, whatever,
you need to have it. But the Broncos continue to
struggle in that category. Here's what I wanted to get
to with the Peyton play calling stuff. I've been pounding
(20:12):
the table for him to stick with the run in
games like that, like even if you're struggling, stick with
it and hope that it breaks through.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
And he did, and I think that.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
There is a certain level of kudos that needs to
be given to Sean Payton for it. But it's where
it's going to sound hypocritical, but I think you guys
will know what I'm talking about here.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
There is a flow of a football game.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That when something's working and something else isn't you kind
of stick with it.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Now?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
When the second half started, I thought Boennicks played well
in the first half.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I did.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
You only came away with ten points because of some
stupid other stuff that happened. Again, I think penalties that
negated first downs. You had the fumble on the third
play that first drive, a lot of weird stuff, but
all at all, I thought that bo Knicks was playing
a normal, decent bon Knicks game. And the second half
starts and he had I believe, two passing attempts until
(21:18):
the thirteen minute mark in the fourth quarter. Now reasons
for it. You had that weird drive that was like
one play where he had the holding penalty in the
end zone and that turned into a safety and it
gave you the first deficit of the game.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Like the first drive was JK. Dobbins or I'm sorry yeah, JK.
Dobbins run.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
RJ.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Harvey run.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And then an incomplete pass which didn't even matter because
it was another penalty and it was a legal man downfield,
so they declined it you punt, so you got three
and out.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Second drive.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Was they tried the big play Detroy Franklin that missed,
but it was a holding on Miners and they kept
saying that it was Bulls. I'm pretty sure it was
Quinn Miners that had the holding the end zone for
the safety right because Eisen kept saying Garrett Bulls, and
I'm like that, First of all, it didn't look like
that's what the penalty was. Second of all, they keep
(22:23):
showing Quinn Miners on the bench, so I'm assuming it
was him.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Holding offense number seventy two.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
I'll tell you the one that really bothered me, though,
it was the drive after that. The Jets take the
lead eleven to ten. You're starting your own drive at
the eighteen yard line after you forced another three and
out and it was an incompletion. It was a run
for a no gain. So it's third and ten and
(22:55):
I get it. You're at your own eighteen third and ten,
and what do they do. They run the ball, which
was an odd decision because it's not third and twenty
where you're just basically giving up and not wanting to
make a mistake.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
It's third and ten.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
But out of all people they run the ball with,
it's Prentice. That should never be on a third and ten.
In fact, Prentice should never be touching the football. And
this is like a common thing that's happened with Sean
Payton since he's been here that I don't understand why
he wants to give the full back to football. You know,
(23:35):
if you have Kyle Yuscheck or you have mikee. Olstatt
from back in the day, maybe feed him a couple
of times. Prentice, no disrespect, but the guy that you
signed two days before the season started because you didn't
have a fullback on the team and you wanted a
guy in there to block, shouldn't be touching the football
(23:57):
just like last year at the goal line, like multiple
times he gives the ball to Burton. I'm like, you
have running backs this year. You have pretty good ones.
If you are going to run the ball on third down,
then run the ball with.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
One of them.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
But you shouldn't be running the football at all on
third and ten because your quarterback had a these first half.
And that's where I just don't get it, Like there's
a flow to the game that you have to feel.
(24:34):
You know, in the past, the Nuggets weren't a team
that was built to shoot a lot of threes. But
if it's a game where your three point shooting is hot,
then shoot threes. If it's not, then work the ball
inside like you do. Always set up the floaters and
have Aaron Gordon in the dunker spot and have Murray
(24:57):
taken pull up seventeen footers like But if you're hitting
your threes, then stick with it. And this is one
of those games where the running was not working. But
I thought you had a decent flow in the passing
game in the first half when you weren't committing penalties
or fumbling the ball like Troy Franklin did after he
caught it. And on third and ten it's a run
(25:19):
to Adam Prentiss. When you finally are down eleven to
ten and you know the Jets can't move the football.
I just nothing made sense. Didn't understand it at all.
So I mean, yeah, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
That I had.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
About the play calling and what was going through. Sean
Payton's at A text says this, this sounds right. I don't
know if this is, but it sounds right from what
I remember that Nix was fifteen to twenty four, one
hundred and twenty five yards and a touchdown before the
second half started.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
It's third and ten.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Trust him and if you can't trust your quarterback, then
that's a completely different thing, because that's the only reason
I can think of why you would run Adam Prentiss
on third and ten. It's because you didn't trust that
your quarterback was going to make the right decisions, which,
first of all, I don't understand why you'd feel that
in that game, because bow Nick seemed fine. Second of all,
(26:23):
if you can't trust your quarterback in that situation, then
you got other issues that you're dealing with, like very obviously, Nelly.
Aaron Glenn did not trust Justin Fields at all, and
there's good reasons for it, because Justin Fields was terrible
(26:45):
and I understand that the offensive line of the Jets
was overwhelmed by the Broncos defense, but you taking nine
sacks in the game as wild And Aaron Glenn was
asked if Justin Fields is still going to be the
story order after the game.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Here's what he said, numbers are not good for this game.
Is he going to be your quarterback next week?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Or would you just say what kind of question is that?
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Look, you did not have a good game.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
I mean, I think it's a fair question.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
There's a number of guys that you know.
Speaker 7 (27:13):
I mean sometimes this league is like this and there
are guys that have bad games. That doesn't mean you
just bench them. Come on, you know better than that.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Yeah, yeah, but you do think about benching guys who
roer and six.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
I don't know if you remember this, Nolly.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I said this before the season started, that Aron Glenn's
got the kind of personality where things go badly. The
New York media is going to start to get after you,
and he's going to get into some back and forth
with some people in the postgame press conferences. And I
don't know how that's going to come off, but I'm
telling you, I get a lot and I like Aaron
Glenn just like I like Nate Hackett. But I get
(27:52):
a lot of Hacket vibes from that of a guy
who just feels like that that's too much for him
right now. And then I've said this before. I said
up with Dion a few weeks ago. By the way,
shout out to the Buffs and CSU for both getting
a win. There's something about a coach and a postgame
(28:15):
press conference that will take ownership about something that they
did clearly wrong. And when Aaron Glenn didn't own up
to the end of that first half stuff. I think
that's a bad sign because you got to know I
messed that up.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You got to.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Texas says the Jets offensive line was simply overpowered.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yes, I mean there's no question.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Now, I guess to the positives here Again, it's a win,
but doesn't feel totally like that. We'll get to the positives.
Your defense is so overwhelmingly great that you have to
(29:05):
play on the opposite side of the football a pretty
damn near perfect brand of offense to make things work
against them. If you put yourself in a situation where
it is an obvious passing situation, look the hell out
(29:27):
because there's gonna be about three guys jumping on top
of your quarterback by the end of the play, and
you better pray to God that he's got the football out.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Of his hands.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
The Broncos are on pace right now, not just to
break the single season record for sacks, to shatter it.
There was a number that Vic had last night on Twitter.
I'll look it up real quick. But what the pace
is for the Broncos in in this game or in
(29:56):
this season and what they could get to. So the
single season record by a team in sacks is seventy two.
It was set by the eighty four Bears. The twenty
twenty two Eagles were in second. They have seventy. They
had seventy as a team. The Broncos are on pace
(30:18):
for eighty five to beat the record by thirteen sacks. Now,
you throw a nine sack game in there, it skews
the scales a little bit, and it's not gonna be
like that every week, but it's just sort of an
indicator of what the hell this defense is doing to
opposing quarterbacks every week, and how much they dial up
(30:43):
pressure and get home.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Because it's one thing to call a blitz.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
It's one thing to dial up some sort of exotic,
weird stunt or something that gets somebody in position.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
It's another thing to actually get there.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Teams blitz a lot, and a lot of times those
guys get bogged down at the line of scrimmage, and
now you got cornerbacks and one on one situations and
quarterbacks beat them. Now, it's nice when you play against
a guy like fields where it feels like you.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Are not.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Uh, you're not going to be threatened if you don't
get home, But it gives you a real indicator of
like this is you know PS two talked about it
in the offseason that he thinks they could be a
(31:37):
historic defense, like one that goes.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Down in an NFL history, and they have all the
ability to do so because just these numbers are unbelievable.
I mean, think about this for a second.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Had it not been for the offense or special teams
bleep ups. There was one drive where the defense allowed points,
and that was to open up the second half they
allowed Can you believe this? How awful were they? They
allowed a ten play, thirty seven yard drive that resulted
(32:16):
in a thirty eight yard field goal.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
What bombs.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
That's the only thing they did. The only other way
that the Jets scored points was off of a fumble
by the offense where they went four plays for three
yards in a field goal. It was a kickoff return
that was returned to the twenty four yard line that
went four plays for one yard and a field goal,
(32:44):
and then a safety in which those points were given
up when the defense was standing on the sideline. So yeah,
not all bad, but we all kind of know when
the defense plays, well, you're happy, but you're like, I
know that they're going to play well, why couldn't the
offense get it in gear? So again, shop Masda text
(33:11):
line open for you guys, three zero, three five four
nine to five Shop Mazda, one price, one person, one hour.
A lot more to get to with this game, a
lot more to get to from everything the Avs played
over the weekend against Dallas, and they still can't get
over that Stars hump.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
The the Atmiko.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Once again buried would end up being the the final
goal of the game in the shootout. Also, college football
was super bizarre over the weekend, upsets like crazy. Weirdest
thing is that both SeeU and CSU won, so a
(33:49):
whole bunch to get to on this rally House football
Monday stigure out rally House victory Monday, Well, it's like that.
I'm chefter at nine o'clock this morning. So the Avs
still have a Stars problem.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Now, Nellie, there's a clip that I sent you a
Bedsy in the postgame and a quote that he had
that I agree with him.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Also, also, this is something that if it were the
shoe on the other foot, I would have this clip
as a SoundBite for the rest of this show's history.
And it does just kind of speak to Dallas and
what they've been this thorn in the side of the Avs.
(34:44):
Did the Avs play well at times yes and at
times no. There is an obvious saltiness from certainly the
app on a couple of different categories now to start
the year. So the Avs lose their first game, now
(35:05):
it's done so in a shootout, so you do get
the point out of it. I think there's still a
lot of bright spots going on. I think Marty Natchius
and the start to his year that he's had has
been fantastic. I think Gavin Brinley for somebody that is
going to be buried at the bottom of your roster
and I get a ton of minutes, but if you
need somebody in a pinch, he looks like he is
capable of stepping up and rising to the occasion. But
(35:30):
let's be honest. It felt a lot like the playoff
series right where you dominated a lot of five on
five hockey, and then he got some special teams categories
and the stars sort of stepped up in the other areas.
You know, they were able to get a lot of
block shots, they were able to get in front of
you create traffic like do all of that really good
(35:51):
job of stacking bodies in front of the net. Ottinger
was fantastic, thirty five saves. But Harry this in the
post game go ahead the.
Speaker 8 (36:02):
Schedule is But is it frustrating?
Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like do you wish you were facing Dalaxy in sooner
than March?
Speaker 8 (36:08):
No, I don't care. Oh, I would love to never
see him again.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
That clip right there, I'm just telling you, I know
where he's coming from.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Nellie.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
If this were the other way around and the Dallas
coach said, I'd be fine never seeing them again. That's
going to be right here on my board for the
rest of the time.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Oh. I would love to never see him again.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
And he's right, like, screw Dallas.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Whatever it is like there's some hocus pocus voodoo magic
that's going on that you can't get past them.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
I'm of the mind I almost think that in situations
like this, I want to play these guys in a
playoff series just to like finally get over it. But
they're good. It's a good hockey team. Still always find
a way to just hang around, hanging out, hang around,
and then when they need the big play, they make
the big play. They're really good at it.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
What was that I didn't recognize what you said there
hanging around You said that kind of weird hanging around,
hanging around around, they're like vic impersonating Teddy KGV.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, it's just it's true.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I mean, they jump to a one to zero lead,
you battle back, you grab a two to one lead,
and then they answer right back shortly afterwards, and then
they take three too, but then you tie it up
and then they it's just boom boom boom constantly. McKinnon,
by the way, not very happy either with the crowd. Now,
I think the crowd, and I've been on this forever,
(37:42):
you have in reserve the right as a ticket paying
customer to voice whatever emotion that you feel within reason.
As long as you weren't calling people out, you know,
like awful names or getting really personal with people, I
think you have the right to voice your displeasure with
a boo. Kennon didn't outright say that you can't, but
(38:08):
he certainly wasn't happy with some of the sounds being
uttered from the crowd.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
After the power Play Listen.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Power Play got back on the board today too.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Just how are you feeling about how that's being deployed
so far.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
What do you mean, just how do you feel like it's.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Looking so much? Oh? I thought it was really good tonight,
really good tonight, A lot of great chances. I know
we're getting booed. I guess they don't really know what
a good power play looks like. We had a ton
of chances and just nothing was going in and we
finally got one. So I guess they got a boos more.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
You obviously didn't like the booze. I think there are
different types of booze.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Within a game.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
There is a boo of your team, which happens quite often.
There is a boo of a situation, which could also happen. Yet,
understand when the thing that hurts you most, and the
thing that I think could be a direct one to
one correlation of ending your season, which is power play
(39:07):
stunk last year in the postseason, and that's what what
kind of burned you when you have an entire offseason
to sit on that as a fan base and then
it struggles. And I agree with him is a lot
It looked a lot better in that game. They just
couldn't get a finish. But I know why the crowd
is booing. They just wanted to be what it usually
(39:33):
looks like for a talented Avalanche team, and the numbers
are close to what they were over the course of
the year, but it feels like just a ton of
opportunities that were just missed.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Win more games. Cub scout, Yeah, but I do think
the power play looked good.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
At the same time, I think you also kind of
just gotta gotta eat a boo everyone in a while.
Doesn't happen all that often. Uh, But the Avs can't
get over whatever that hump.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Is that Dallas possesses.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Now moving on to college football, both CSU and CU
get a win in a very surprising way. Now, if
you remember Iowa State, it's a weird team. They're ranked,
but they were an underdog the previous week against Cincinnati
and got shellac. Now final score doesn't indicate that, but
(40:30):
they got worked around pretty good. They were a slight
favorite heading into this game against CU in the CEE
Who's credit And I think it's it's awesome that, especially
in the week that Dion had where he had another
surgery for the blood cut clode problem, he's on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It showed some resolve, it showed some balls Okay.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
To go out and win a game like that, and
I think it's really cool that they did it in
a week that was pretty tumultuous.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
For their head coach.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Personally, I thought Caden Saltz played a really good game
that he looked really solid and made good plays. I
still have problems with what happened inside the game. Didn't
like he couldn't stop the run more than anything else.
The common issue that continues to creep up with Deon
(41:15):
coached football teams are this, and it drives me nuts.
There's fifty three seconds left in the first half. A
play is just made in which you get down to
the one yard line, you know it's going to result
(41:37):
in a score. You have timeouts in your pocket. Iowa
State makes a big play down to the one. You
call a time out, thinking if they do get in
the end zone, which let's be honest, first and one
from the goal they probably are going to, you can
serve time for your offense to get the ball back
(41:58):
and respond. And instead, what happens is that clock bleeds
down to twenty seconds left and then you have no
time to do anything. Now see, you got a good
kick return and they had the opportunity for a field goal,
but you could have had an extra thirty seconds to
work with, And to me, that's just basic stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Do you call it time out there?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (42:19):
So when was the time to call it time out?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Fifty three seconds on the clock? One yard line?
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Very easy, honestly, not to be insulting, but it feels
like anybody who's played Madden before knows you call a
time out there, and the fact that nobody else is
in Deigon's ear being like, hey, let's get a time out,
Like where's Schrmer screaming in the headset? Give me a
timeout for my offense, because what's the plan that the
(42:44):
clock's going to run out? And Iowa was stayed at
the one yard line? Not gonna happen. So yeah, little
stuff still bothered me. But all in all, I thought
it was a great battle to get back into that
game in the second half.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
A couple of really good drives in the third quarter
to get.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
You into it, and then to be be able to
close out the game was really good.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
On the CSU part, it felt kind of the same.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
You put up thirty five points in the first half, Nelly,
they were up thirty five to seven, that's a team
that put up three points against Wazoo, who ironically almost
beat o Miss.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
This weekend, which was bizarre.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
But it's thirty five to seven, and then it gets
to thirty five to twenty one and I start thinking, uh, oh,
are they.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Gonna let go of this rope?
Speaker 4 (43:31):
And it's like they kind of tried, but to their credit,
defense stiffened up when they had to force two straight
turnover on downs and then the game was over after that.
So good football over the weekend for those two teams,
and I think a very much needed win for both
of them.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Now the rest of college football. Was it a full
moon this weekend or something?
Speaker 4 (43:55):
Because the Brett Coin lock of the week was a disaster.
I thought that Oregon was gonna go, you know, especially
playing at home against Indiana kick him in the teeth
and Mendoza, who I think is a really good quarterback,
just kept Indiana in it and kept making the right
play at the right time and they win thirty to twenty.
(44:16):
Washington State damn near upsets number four Ole Miss at home.
You had Texas that laid a whooping on Oklahoma, especially
with their defensive play MISSOO almost beat Alabama Georgia, Auburn
was close, LSU South Carolina was close. Arkansamast beat Tennessee,
like USC over Michigan.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
You keep going down the line.
Speaker 4 (44:38):
College football was bizarre over the weekend, So a whole
bunch more to get into. But get back to the
Broncos in a win that didn't really feel like it.
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