October 14, 2025 • 46 mins
0:00 - The Avs beat the Buffalo Sabres 3-1 yesterday in an afternoon delight affair. Marty Nachos had himself another fantastic performance. Looking back on the Rantanen for Necas trade, do we feel good about it overall? Has Necas matched/surpassed the level at Mikko was playing at, even though it's a small sample size so far?
14:36 - It's Tuesday at 6:20am, which means it's time for another edition of COLLEGE FOOTBALL STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN!
33:32 - The Titans just fired Brian Callahan after starting the season 1-5. After they drafted q QB 1st overall. There's been a trend recently of drafting QBs 1st overall, then firing head coaches during their first year.
14:36 - It's Tuesday at 6:20am, which means it's time for another edition of COLLEGE FOOTBALL STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN!
33:32 - The Titans just fired Brian Callahan after starting the season 1-5. After they drafted q QB 1st overall. There's been a trend recently of drafting QBs 1st overall, then firing head coaches during their first year.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Check out Brett weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
Radio ninety two to five and on the Altitude Sports
Radio app.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Three seconds Ago, two seconds one, Wedgewood guides at the side.
Manson has it and the Avalanche come to Buffalo and
win for the second straight season. Nathan McKinnon has two,
Cale mccarr pots one and the Avalanche out duell the
Sabers and beat them three one.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
On Columbus Day ye.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
At ten thirty in the morning, yesterday, Avs get the
win in Columbus or Columbus Good look, God, Buffalo, it
was Columbus Day. Wait a minute, I'm listening to this, Nelly.
Is this the original or is this Anchorman's version? Did
(01:03):
they do like a studio quality version? Of course, Yeah,
it's gonna say Anchorman.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That sounds a lot like Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Actually, So you know, you know how if you ever
listen to Abs or Nuggets games that are Mattine's, Burdo
always does this.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
He'll go Scott rockets in flight. Yeah, it's an afternoon
light today.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
So every time he would do that on the Nuggets broadcast,
Cause this is his one trivia question. The voice of
the Nuggets, Jason Cosmiski, would go, he'd go, hey, Nelly, bro,
you know who does this song?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Who does this one?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And he would try to and he asked me, who
does the original? Like the original?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The original? Yeah? Do you know who does the original?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, I do?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is something like Starlight or uh.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Hang on, hang on, give me a hand again, warmer.
The star was right?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, wasn't uh star.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I can't think of it right now. Hit me, it's
too early.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's the Starland Vocal Band, Starland Vocal Band, Yes, but
see I had the star l Yes. But everybody has
that one trivia question, like I bet you when when
you're sitting around watching a Lions game with your friends,
you get the same factoid you always fall on or something?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And causes?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Did you know that Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw used
to be high school baseball teammates?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Bingo, there you go?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
And so causes is that Afternoon Delight is originally by
the Starland Vocal Band?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yes, of course a night.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Well, the Avs do get the win yesterday, and I'll
say this, we have first of all an Avalanche ticket Tuesday,
So your first keyword's coming your way in seventeen minutes
for your chance to win a pair of tickets to
the Avs game coming up here this week.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You have things that go down in the moment, and
it's hard to stomach, Like I think we can all
kind of agree at least a little bit of you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
In the moment that Miko was traded, it was odd.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You had a team that was making trades to push
themselves into being a contender, trading away one of the
league's highest points scorers in an attempt to get.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
There is an odd dichotomy.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Miko Ranton In traded, probably biggest trade, one of the
biggest trades in franchise history. Miko Ranton In off the roster,
try and figure something out on the fly with somebody new,
and Natus had I think moments where he looked really good,
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in moments where, especially in the post, looked like disappeared
a little bit, this connection that he hasn't with Nathan McKinnon.
I would argue, at least the way it's looked early
in this season is better. And the reason why is
because Miko was doing a lot of kind of like
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sitting in one spot waiting for the one time or
that he's elite at and he can bury with consistency,
especially when Nathan McKinnon's commanding attention. But the ability of
natures to move, his ability to skate, to keep his
feet moving, to continue to apply pressure, to always make
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the defense aware of where he's at.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It helps twofold.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
First of all, it gives McKinnon a target that he
could throw to that he can do something with the
puck on his stick. Secondly, him commanding that attention by
moving now takes an eyeball or two off of what
McKinnon's doing. Like McKinnon easily could have had the hat
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trick yesterday without forgetting the fact that he just gave up,
didn't shoot with the empty net. He rang went off
the iron after his first goal. And by the way,
that first one just unbelievable skill. Right you enter the zone,
puck kind of gets away from you, you tap it
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to yourself and you rip it backhand almost a no
looker short side.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean, we know the talent in the skill that
he requires.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
And know everybody was kind of talking about, you know,
his interview that he did with with Crosby, where he's like, yeah,
my game's just really choppy. It's like that doesn't look choppy.
That looks incredibly smooth. But he has this thing going
with Natures right now where it's just I think their
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games fit better and this, this is no disrespect to Miko. Look,
I know there's a lot of people around here, Moser
that don't have nice things to say about Miko. I do,
and part of me still to this day, not part
of me entirely. I think what happened with Miko is
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he overestimated his value to the AVS and he found
out real quick that he was not in the McKinnon
or mccar territory where you can kind of command whatever
dollar you want and they won't do anything about it.
I think it was an unfortunate thing where he got
bad advice from an agent and thought he was held
in higher regard within the organization than he actually was.
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If he had to do it all over again, I
think he would take the number that the AVS offered
and stay in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But he can't.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And so now you've got Martin Nachs and I just
think it fits better his style of play fits better.
And on that top line, now you have three different
guys that can just kind of roam find space, and
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it looks really good and it gives you know, whenever
you have that sort of thing going, you push everybody
down into slots that make them look better. You know,
it's still taking a minute, I think for this Nelson,
Nachushkin and Landy line to get to there, to get together.
By the way, that cut on Nelson's hand doesn't look great.
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You know, Byron's skate goes up in the air and
slices them right across. I mean it looked like almost
by the wrist, which is always freaky.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So hopefully he's gonna end up being all right from that.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Secondly, there's just a different sort of flow with how
the team operates, and you know, on the the mcar goal,
it's just Valnachushkin doing what Valonachushkin maybe only him can
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do on this team, which we've talked about this with
Val before. He I don't know if he's elite at anything,
but he's really good at everything. Like I don't know
if there's a category of his game that you would
say he does this as good or better than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But he does everything better than most people.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And his like will to just stick with a play
and never give up on something like he's a he's
he backchecks like crazy. It's all set up because Valonachushkin
was not going to give up on that play. So
he jumps in middle of the offensive zone without the puck,
kind of right on the blue line, picks the pass off,
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weaves in between traffic, knows that Cale is firing down
the opposite side, rips one across the net, and it's
Cale with one of the easiest goals. He's going to
score as long as he fended off the guy that
was kind of on top of him. But once he
got it on his stick, there's no doubt that puck's
going in.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like there's so.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Many good things to take away from the game, and
I know, look, I've been one of them that's doing it, saying, hey, powerplay,
what's going on? Another zero for four game for him
last night. I almost see this as you're having, okay,
a little bit of a struggle early in the year
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to get the power play really rolling. Imagine what happens
is when it does. You know who leads the NHL
in points Right now, there's two guys that are tight
for first. Can you guess them? It's Nathan McKinnon in
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already Nachos eight points apiece leads the NHL. There's something
about that combo that is really really impressive, and I
think it's been their style of game just seems to work.
But yes, power play needs to get it again. I
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think it's gotten better, they just haven't gotten results, and
I think those are gonna come. And this is all
going to even out in the wash. Right now, the
absit at nineteenth in the league. Power play percentage are
fifteen point eight. I think they're going to be just fine. Yes,
you want to see the number higher, probably about at
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least ten points higher.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But again.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It's early in the year and I I'm pretty sure
they'll get that figured out. So three oh three, five
four nine texture goes wait till the playoffs when Nateate
just disappears.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, you can think that way if you want to.
I'll choose that he won't.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Like you if you're already I mean, he got traded
to the team mid season last year, had one playoff
run where let's be honest, most of the team didn't
look impressive in the postseason. So you can pin it
on a guy or two if you want to. I
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think that'd be foolish. I am going to absolutely believe
that what I'm saying out of these two is reel,
especially with an offseason to get even more chemistry together.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Settle in just a little bit. So there you go.
Avs Ticket Tuesday that we do all year on this station.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
We got our first keyword coming up in eight minutes,
so it's every we're on the Twenties. We're gonna be
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Speaker 2 (12:09):
Which game is it today, Nelly, I.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Believe we're giving away tickets to the Bruins. The Bruins game,
and that's the only time that Boston is coming to
Denver this season, so it's the Bruins.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
We'll have our first keyword in just a few minutes,
and it's every hour on the Twenties. Each show is
giving away a pair of tickets, and it happens every
single Tuesday on this station, So stay tuned for that.
In the meantime, watch the football games last night. We'll
get to this a little bit later. There is something
about what I watched in the doubleheader that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think is really interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
First of all, Buffalo loses again, this time to Atlanta,
Atlanta being a porpoise. They have a good game and
a bad game, and a good game and a bad game.
It does kind of feel like Atlanta's figuring things out.
They've had three wins in four games, I mean the
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three and two on the year, but they suffered a
three point loss Week one against the Bucks. They beat
the snot out of the Vikings twenty two to six.
They had that weird loss thirty to nothing to Carolina,
which is sort of the outlier on the season for them,
then beat the Commanders by a touchdown and the Bills
by ten. I think the Falcons might be a problem
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in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I'm a little mad at the Falcons zone not gonna lie,
or maybe mad at the Bills because the last bet
on the lay it down slate from Friday was Bills
minus four and a half and.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
The Bills laid an egg. They didn't lay it down.
They did the wrong thing, man.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
But the Bills losing again I think proves one thing
there is no elite team in the NFL. This season
at stas of right now, which is rare. Number two.
The second game that took place against Washington in Chicago
featured the number one and number two overall draft picks
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last year in the same draft that bo Nix was in.
Moy's kind of interested to see how these quarterbacks are acting,
and Jaden Daniels is reminding me a lot of bon Nicks.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
So we'll get to that a little bit later.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
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let's do it every Tuesday, we take a look at
the college football weekend with the little college football Stockup stockdown,
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and it was a wild, wild weekend in college football.
We always start with the quarterbacks. Please stock up Fernando Mendoza.
The numbers weren't insane. It's not like he put up
five touchdowns and he threw for six hundred yards and
all these different things.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
But he did the most important thing and the thing
that is shocking people most about Indiana, which is winning.
Mendoza was twenty of thirty one for two hundred and
fifteen yards, a touchdown and a pick. But to go
to Eugene against Dan Lanning and that Oregon team and
beat them in their own house by ten points is
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wildly impressive and very not in It's the only way
I can put it. If you had Indiana at number
three in the country going into Week eight of the
college football season, good for you.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're probably win. You're probably the only one. And you
know what.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
To that guy's credit, everybody was calling him a clown
last year for saying that, Oh, yeah, you're just Indiana.
Indiana's legit.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Kurt Signetti maybe with his boastful ego might be onto something.
He wins. Google him. They're six and oh this season.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
By the way, that's already their second top ten win
on their schedule because they played Illinois earlier this year
and beat them what was the finals, like sixty three
to ten. It's a fifty point win. And you might say, well, Brett,
that's it's Illinois. Who cares well? Illinois just played against
Ohio State and Ohio State beat them by eighteen. Frint
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then fifty just accept the guys Indiana's legit. It's a
lot easier to do that than try to explain why
they aren't. And Mendoza is a huge reason for it.
Seventeen touchdowns, two picks on the year. And here's the
other thing about Indiana. The best team left on their
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schedule might be Penn State, and they just fired their
coach because they have Michigan State, UCLA, Maryland, Penn State, Wisconsin,
Purdue not a murder's row left could very.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well finish undefeated.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You might see Indiana the number one team in the
country by the time Championship weekend rolls around. So Mendoza
gets a stock up quarterback stock down. Don't agree this
guy too harshly. Just came off an injury for a while,
he missed a month of the season, and he did
it with a hand injury. But John Matteer in his
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first came back, threw three picks against Texas and they
lost twenty three to six. That team, that rival and
three picks is not great and not being able to
put a touchdown on the board not great either. I
want to give him some grace because again he's just
coming back from an injury.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But at the.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Same time, you can't have a game like that against
that team. And let's be honest, Texas, who started the
year number one in the country and arch Manning and
all the hype, doesn't look that way as the season's progressed.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's not like Texas is good.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
They're fine, but they got the snot beat out of
them by Texas over the weekend. And Mateer making those
kind of mistakes is a big deal. Felt like he
might have with the way that Oklahoma. Oklahoma's season was rolling,
had a shot at the Heisman before being injured. But
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I'll say this, the weird thing that game is the
panic was that can Oklahoma keep it together when he's out?
And they did. You know, he misses the game. They're
lucky enough to have a bye week sort of in between,
but they held it together and then they had this one.
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And now you're looking at the rest of the schedule.
It's like at South Carolina, Ole, miss Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri
in LSU. South Carolina's the only unranked team and all
those other ranked teams are at least sixteenth or better
in the country.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So it's not gonna get any easier.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
And I think that stop for stock for him might
continue to kind of take some hits unless he can
bounce back from this. So John Matteer gets the stock down.
Let's go Big twelve team stock up. Shootah style. Points
matter you beat a team like Arizona State. And Arizona
State is not as good as they were last year,
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but there's still a solid enough football team, especially in
the Big twelve where it's kind of hard to decipher
who's good and who's not. Texas Tech is good in
the Big twelve. After that, it's kind of like you
you gotta strain yourself to make an argument for anybody
else that's near that. But Utah forty two to ten
over Arizona State is a massive win. Here's the thing
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about them, and this is sort of a Utah special,
is that they don't do anything special. They aren't like
an amazing team throwing the football. They aren't amazing running
the football. They play really good defense, but look at
the numbers from that game, it doesn't feel like the
numbers would bear out a thirty two point win. They
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did run the ball really effectively, but what they did
better than anything else they allowed three point three yards
per play to Arizona State. Through the area and on
the ground it was virtually the same thing. I think
through the air was three point four and on the
ground is three point two something like that. Just played
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a really salty defensive game that led to them getting
a big win. So they get the stock up. Let's
go big twelve teams stock down. So this is going
to Iowa State. And this is not to his credit
what SeeU has done, but see who did has struggled
this year, especially struggled to close out games. But Iowa State,
it's the second week in a row that they've lost
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to an unranked opponent as a ranked.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Team, to which they are no longer ranked anymore. That
quarterback Becked I had some hope for him early in
the year. He was intriguing.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Big bodied guy, can run the ball a little bit,
seems to throw the ball all right. But they do
a lot of the little things poorly. They make dumb mistakes,
take penalties. They've been turning the ball over. They had
this nice start to the year. Now two straight weeks
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it's felt like in this this is the worst part
they've lost and people aren't surprised. I mean, Cincinnati the
week before last weekend played an undefeated Iowa State team
as an unranked team, and they were favored going in
the game. See you, which has struggled this year. I
ain't the spread was what six and a half I
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think is what it went down to. Maybe it was
like five by the time kickoff happened. This isn't a
surprise that Iowa State is beaten. And that's where their
stock has really fallen, is that they built up this
undefeated record and they got a good track record with
Matt Campbell, but no one is like really, I was
just kind of like, yeah, they probably shouldn't have been
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ranked to start with, so they get the stock down,
let's go national team stock up.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Indiana on this one.
I think that's huge.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It is.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's for them a statement win.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
They had a whole bunch of wins last year, but
when they played against ranked teams, that's where they started
running into trouble. And it's why people didn't believe in
Indiana this year when they were ranked as high as
they were, like they were kind of rolling through the
unranks last year. They go and they play IOA or
I'm sorry, Ohio State last year and they lost thirty
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eight to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You go, hmm, all right, that's our first loss of
the year. That makes them ten in one.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
They didn't beat Perdue of the final game of the year,
sixty six to nothing. That made them eleven and one.
Then they played Notre Dame in the playoff game. They
lost by ten, but it didn't look all that close,
and you go, see, this is why Indiana can't get
the credit that they deserve.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And this year, what do they do. They beat number nine.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I was sixty three to ten in Week four and
I'm sorry, Illinois, cheez number nine, Illinois sixty three to ten,
and you go, yeah, but it's Illinois.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Who really cares Illinois. I didn't believe in either.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And everybody was kind of like, just wait when they
play against Oregon in Oregon, they're gonna get the doors
blown off, and I'm gonna say I told you so,
well you can't because they played a really solid and
salty game in a way that Oregon usually doesn't get
bullied around like that. Oregon is putting up points no
matter who they're playing against, and they struggled. They made
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Dante Moore, who's it was between him and Mendoza really
for the best quarterback in the Big Ten right now.
And you know Julian's saying out of Iowa State, it's
gonna have something to say about that a little bit later.
But Dante Moore is somebody who's just really effective. He
runs the football well, he doesn't turn the ball over.
He's really smart. And in that game he could not
get anything going on the ground, finished with negative twenty
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seven rushing yards.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I know a lot of those are sacks, but still
he didn't get in open space and he.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Threw two picks, and you force a guy like that
to throw two picks and take six sacks. Just for
the record, Nelly, nobody sacks that Dante more had going
into that weekend. In the five previous games, ah, he
had won.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
In the end, it got to him six times. They're impressive. Again.
I said this when we were talking about Fernanda Mendoza.
Accept it. They're good. It's pretty simple. I win, Google
me national team stock down.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Remember after Week one, Alabama loses to Florida State and
we're like, man, Florida State just went from undefeated season
to two and ten record, and now week one they
beat Alabama what the hell.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is going on here?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
They win their next two games convincingly, and you say,
all right, Florida State's back. That's awesome. And now for
the third straight week they've lost. They're all close losses,
but they just can't finish the game. All of their
good will that they built up in the first couple
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of weeks is now gone. And I'll say this about
Florida State. It's something I mentioned earlier in the year.
I think you're gonna have a really difficult time when
it comes down to you gotta throw your way into
a game, trusting Tommy Castianos. He's a really good runner
of the football. And I could tell early.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
In the year they're winning these games.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
But you've had fourteen passing attempts, and then he had eleven,
and then he had thirteen. I wonder what this looks
like when they need to dial up the pass game
more because they need to keep up with another team. Well,
that happened against Virginia, where he had thirty two passing
attempts and it resulted in two picks they lost. It
happened against Miami, where he had forty five passing attempts.
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It resulted in two picks they lost and this weekend
no interceptions played, actually a decent game, but twenty three
passing attempts and they lose a pit. I just I
don't think he's the kind of guy that if you
need a heavy passing volume from Castianos, that he's able
to keep your team in it without making mistakes. And
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for the third straight week they had to dial up
that number a little bit more and it's resulted in
Now for Florida State they take the stock down Heisman
stock up. Yeah, it's Julian saying he's completing almost seventy
nine percent of his passes at Ohio State this year.
He had three hundred and twenty six yards last week
and three touchdowns against Minnesota. Fifteen touchdowns, three picks on
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the year. If Ohio State keeps winning, he's going to
be near the top of this.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And it just feels like Ohio State's a factory.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I mean, we went over yesterday all of the wide
receivers that were in Ohio State at the same time,
just a couple of years ago, and you have let's
see if I can do this. Off the top of
my head, I think it was Olave Marvin Harrison Garrett Wilson,
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think Brett, think oh Buka Juba and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
That's right, all of those guys on the field at
the same time. And by the way, they'll have that
Florida State or I'm sorry, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Is still doing that Big Bo, Big Bo. Jeremiah Smith
is a star. Okay, this is just their wide receiver,
you now, there's no other way around it. They will
always have somebody, somebody that is going to be on
the outside hauling in passes.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
That's gonna be a first round pick every single year.
By the way, their running backs name is Bo Jackson Jackson,
but his name is Bo Jackson, so he gets credit
for that. Ohio State is once again a wagon and
their quarterback. Where sometimes that stuff is harder to replace.
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You lose a guy like I wasn't overly impressed with
Will Howard last year despite him being a national champion.
Julian San is more talented than Will Howard, very clearly
a more talented passer of the football. Can he have
the same results, We'll see, but his Heisman stock is up,
Heisman stock down.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
What we kind of talked about with Organ and Dante
Moore earlier. It's a huge game against Indiana. That's one
of those like you build up your heisman resume and
put something on tape that's going to be played when
they call your name, and a loss at home really hurts.
It does, and I think there was a narrative and
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a perspective surrounding Indiana going into that game in which
Dante Moore having a two pick, six sack performance really
puts a damper on some of that heisman fuel that
he had really charging towards the middle of the season.
You just watched Indiana kind of manhandle organ and really
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make Dante Moore uncomfortable again. The Stata just threw out
a second ago. He took one sack in the previous
five games. He had six alone against Indiana. He looked uncomfortable,
and in games like that, it just hurts. So he
gets a stock down. Upset of the week got its football. Okay,
there's a number of upsets. The one that surprised me
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most wasn't even an upset. I was most surprised that
the dog butt Washington State Cougars went on the road
to Ole Miss and damn near pulled the game out
Ole Miss the number four team in the country, and
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they were right there, neck and neck within the entire game.
With seven minutes left in the fourth quarter, it was
seventeen to fourteen, had a shot the win, just couldn't
close it out. I'm honestly, if we're talking just straight shock,
that's the most shocked that I had of any game
that happened over the weekend. Now, of the actual upsets
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that took play, I think you could throw.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
See who's name in the hat that the spread started
to dwindle though when to kickoff. When it got around
time for a kickoff, I suppose Texas over over Oklahoma,
just because Oklahoma felt like they had things rolling with
John Matteer back in the lineup and Texas was struggling.
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But even all the ones that.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
We consider upsets, it's like, is SeeU over IWA stayed
a huge upset, kinda not really? Is it USC over
Michigan kinda not really? Michigan felt a little bit fraudulent.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I will say the way that Utah won overall Arizona
State was pretty shocking. But again, the game I'm most
surprised by is how close Washington State kept it against
miss So there you go. That's college football styck cups
dock down.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
We do it every week following the college football weekend.
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off and three oh three five oh four oh nine
two five back after this. All right, So we have
our first coach firing yesterday, and that.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Is Brian Callahan.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I Tennessee U. I don't know why teams do the
things they do. I got an idea. We got a
coach that we don't feel great about. We are going
to put and invest our number one overall draft pick
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and a quarterback. In a month and a half into
the season, We're gonna fire his head coach. Do you
know how often that's happened? By the way, do you
want to hear what stupid football teams do? Now, let's
see if you can get it. Number one overall draft
pick this.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Year was.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It was cam Ward Correct.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
His coach was fired mid season. The number one overall
draft pick last year.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Was oh, putting me on the spot here.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's right, of course, mister painted nails himself.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Matt Eberfluss was fired midway through his first season.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That's because his cell phone was as bad as his offense.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
The first overall pick the year before.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
That was another quarterback, Bryce Young. Frank Reich was fired
midway through the season. What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Here's what I think it's funny. I am.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
A pusherbacker on the idea that if you play a
quarterback too early that you're going to ruin his confidence
and he's going to be bad.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I don't think that exists. For quarterbacks who are going
to be good.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I think they have to have a confidence that they
know maybe I'll struggle my rookie year, but I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Figure this out.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
And if they don't have that level of confidence, I
don't think they're going to be good anyway. I don't
think you need to coddle somebody into playing good football,
because what's the difference between doing that early or doing
that in year three when they struggle. Struggling is struggling.
You either have what it takes or you don't. That's
why I was a big fan of playing bow Knicks
at the beginning last year. It's like, just rip the
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band aid off and do.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This bow Knicks.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Let's mess out.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Have him prove that he's a good quarterback or don't.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Like there is no amount of struggle early in his
career that if it ruins him. He's not mentally strong
to start with, certainly not mentally strong enough to lead
an entire football organization to be the face of your franchise.
You know who struggled a lot his rookie year, Peyton
Manning through like thirty picks. He was fine because you
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have to be. So I don't buy into that stuff.
Here's what I do buy into. When you draft somebody
at quarterback and you change your head coach six weeks
into the season, and next year he's gonna be starting
over with a brand new offense, and you do that
to quarterbacks repeatedly, I do think that ruins him, never
being able to get into a rhythm, never fully knowing
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an offense, consistently changing things.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
They never get to like have any footing within an
offense they're comfortable in because they're always learning something new.
That's stupid, that's dumb, And I just I don't understand
why you'd even you know, it's for the record, I
know things are going better, but Brian Dable and the
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Giants are the same thing. All it's gonna take is
the Broncos to beat the I'm not saying this is
gonna happen, just hypothetically. All it's gonna take is the
Broncos to beat the Giants by thirty points and forced
three interceptions and sack Jackson Dart eight times like they
did to Justin Fields, and then him to follow that
up with two more losses before Brian Dable's probably gone
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to and they're facing the same situation, Like, I don't
know how teams can be this dumb. By the way,
you know who else thinks teams are stupid? Can you
give me the Mike Tomlin clip I sent the sea
you this morning, Nelly, Mike Tomlin thinks and called him
out by name.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
A GM in.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
His own division is stupid, and he said it at
the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Because they have.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
A really commit ending lead on the AFC North right now,
which I don't even think they expected considering how bad
Baltimore and Cincinnati have turned into that they lost both
of their quarterbacks. Well, Baltimore were struggling even before that,
but now both of their quarterbacks are out of the
lineup there losing football games. They look both of those
teams look like they're lost, and the Pittsburgh Steelers have
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a stranglehold on the AFC North now. And then Mike
Tomlin sees Cincinnati acquired Joe Flacco from a division rival
in Cleveland and had this to say.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Called out another GM by name, Well, he must be
a lot smarter than me, which is always, isn't that
one great? Yeah, that guy must be a lot smarter
than me to do You're always like, what a moron.
Now he's pissed because the one team that he's probably
still concerned about is Cincinnati that if they keep things
on the rails, Joe Burrow has a good chance of
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coming back late in the year and then there'll be
a brand new football team. If they could stay in
the playoff hunt, then all of a sudden, they're a
threat again.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So he's pissed about that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I don't think Cleveland has any obligation to worry about
what happens in Pittsburgh. You know, Cleveland's worried about losing
every game and getting the number one pick now, because
that's it looks like that's where they're headed. But regardless,
I'm watching the Monday night games last night, and you
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had one game that featured the number two, number one,
and number two overall draft picks last year in Caleb
Williams and Jade and Daniels, the same draft that Bonnicks
was selected in. And I like to watch games like
that just to get a read on, like, Okay, what
are their year two quarterbacks look like?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
And honestly not great. Jade and Daniels finished with three
touchdowns through the air.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
But if you watch the game, he was okay, made
a couple of plays, had a terrible interception, awful.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And then biggest play of the game. They're trying to
burn the.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Clock so that Chicago has no time or at least
drive down the field get another score and make it
more difficult. And did you see the fumble at the
end of the game, Jade and Daniels basically on a handoff,
loses control and throws it into the chest of Crosskey Merritt.
Chicago recovers, they go thirty six yards. They only need
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it like fifteen, but they go thirty six kick the
game winner and ball games over.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
By the way, do you know who was kicking for
the Bears? Uh?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Uh? Was it Moody?
Speaker 6 (41:01):
It was?
Speaker 5 (41:02):
It was forty nine ers cast off Jake Movie, Yeah,
who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn for two
years in San Francisco, And the Bears elevated him off
the practice squad and he hit.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What hit four?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
But he had one blocked, which was blocked by Javon
Kinlaw former forty nine ers, So that was nine or
on niner violence. But yeah, man, that was a crazy game.
And that was one of those plays the Jade and
Daniel Jaden and Daniels handoff were On the one hand,
you want to go man, you got to make those plays.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What an idiot.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
But on the other hand, it was raining cats and dogs. Dude,
that ball was soaked. He just hot potatoed that right
past his running back.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Poor guy.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I'll say this about these two qbs. Does Caleb Williams
look better this year?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's better.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I still don't think he's super impressive. Now they've won
three straight. Their offense teams have found their footing now.
But he's got three games that he has one touchdown
or less and another game he had two touchdowns, but
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that's when they lost fifty two to twenty one to Detroit,
and then he had one really good game against Dallas
where he had four. He's better, and I figured he
would be under Ben Johnson. But let me make the
comparison between Jade and Daniels and bow Knicks for a second.
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Everybody acts as if Jaden Daniels is very easily on
the doorstep to being a top five quarterback in the league.
And I think Jayden Daniels is impressive. He can do
a little bit of both through the air on the ground.
But I want to remind people of something. The battle
in the race last year between Jayden Daniels and bow
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Knicks for who was having the better rookie season was
pretty damn close. It all separated when the playoffs started
and Jayden Daniels went to the NFC Championship Game. He
won Rookie of the Year, but it wasn't by a
crazy crazy like. It's not as if he was doubling
up the stats on bow Knicks.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Their stats were closed.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
The separation was made by his performance in the postseason
and his ability to win in the postseason, which guess
that matters. But I don't see a ton different between
those two guys. Honestly, you know, he missed a couple
of games already this year. But between him and Knicks,
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I think they have games in which their stats at
times look better than what they played and at times
it looks worse. So, just going back the last year,
one guy had three hundred or three thousand, seven hundred
and seventy five yards, twenty nine touchdowns, twelve picks in
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sixty six percent completion. The other guy had thirty five
hundred yards, sixty nine percent completion, twenty five touchdowns and
nine picks. Nice you tell me, is there a massive
difference between those numbers? You could argue that bo Nicks
were better because he was the first one I read off.
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And now this year Jade and Daniels in four games
has eight hundred and seventy five passing yards, seven touchdowns
and one pick sixty two percent completion. Bo Nicks has
thirteen hundred yards sixty four or sixty five percent completion,
nine touchdowns, four picks. They aren't that far apart, is
all I'm trying to get at. The one thing he
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does a lot better than bo is. He runs a
football a lot better, and I just think it's more
of a willingness issue for bo to do that than
than Jade Nana's just being better. But even in the
rushing numbers, bo Nicks has thirty three carries for one
hundred and twenty four yards. Jaden Daniels has thirty six
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for one seventy six. That's not even that far apart.
I'm telling you, these guys are a lot more similar
than people are willing to believe. And by the way,
in these games with Jayden Daniels, he's two and two
so far this year. Losses to Green Bay in Chicago.
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Did get a win over the Chargers last week, but
that was a pretty decimated Chargers team and had a
close win against the Giants earlier in the year.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
People like to pretend that Jaden Daniels is heading his
shoulders the best quarterback in that draft class, and nobody
else can say any word about it. I think that
you can make an argument for a couple of different people,
including Drake May.
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Three seconds Ago, two seconds one, Wedgewood guides at the side.
Manson has it and the Avalanche come to Buffalo and
win for the second straight season. Nathan McKinnon has two,
Cale mccarr pots one and the Avalanche out duell the
Sabers and beat them three one.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
On Columbus Day ye.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
At ten thirty in the morning, yesterday, Avs get the
win in Columbus or Columbus Good look, God, Buffalo, it
was Columbus Day. Wait a minute, I'm listening to this, Nelly.
Is this the original or is this Anchorman's version? Did
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they do like a studio quality version? Of course, Yeah,
it's gonna say Anchorman.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
That sounds a lot like Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Actually, So you know, you know how if you ever
listen to Abs or Nuggets games that are Mattine's, Burdo
always does this.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
He'll go Scott rockets in flight. Yeah, it's an afternoon
light today.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
So every time he would do that on the Nuggets broadcast,
Cause this is his one trivia question. The voice of
the Nuggets, Jason Cosmiski, would go, he'd go, hey, Nelly, bro,
you know who does this song?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Who does this one?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Bro?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
And he would try to and he asked me, who
does the original? Like the original?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The original? Yeah? Do you know who does the original?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes, I do?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is something like Starlight or uh.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Hang on, hang on, give me a hand again, warmer.
The star was right?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yes, wasn't uh star.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I can't think of it right now. Hit me, it's
too early.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
It's the Starland Vocal Band, Starland Vocal Band, Yes, but
see I had the star l Yes. But everybody has
that one trivia question, like I bet you when when
you're sitting around watching a Lions game with your friends,
you get the same factoid you always fall on or something?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And causes?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Did you know that Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw used
to be high school baseball teammates?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Bingo, there you go?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
And so causes is that Afternoon Delight is originally by
the Starland Vocal Band?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yes, of course a night.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Well, the Avs do get the win yesterday, and I'll
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Speaker 2 (02:47):
Here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You have things that go down in the moment, and
it's hard to stomach, Like I think we can all
kind of agree at least a little bit of you.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
In the moment that Miko was traded, it was odd.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You had a team that was making trades to push
themselves into being a contender, trading away one of the
league's highest points scorers in an attempt to get.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
There is an odd dichotomy.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Miko Ranton In traded, probably biggest trade, one of the
biggest trades in franchise history. Miko Ranton In off the roster,
try and figure something out on the fly with somebody new,
and Natus had I think moments where he looked really good,
(03:57):
in moments where, especially in the post, looked like disappeared
a little bit, this connection that he hasn't with Nathan McKinnon.
I would argue, at least the way it's looked early
in this season is better. And the reason why is
because Miko was doing a lot of kind of like
(04:18):
sitting in one spot waiting for the one time or
that he's elite at and he can bury with consistency,
especially when Nathan McKinnon's commanding attention. But the ability of
natures to move, his ability to skate, to keep his
feet moving, to continue to apply pressure, to always make
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the defense aware of where he's at.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
It helps twofold.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
First of all, it gives McKinnon a target that he
could throw to that he can do something with the
puck on his stick. Secondly, him commanding that attention by
moving now takes an eyeball or two off of what
McKinnon's doing. Like McKinnon easily could have had the hat
(05:05):
trick yesterday without forgetting the fact that he just gave up,
didn't shoot with the empty net. He rang went off
the iron after his first goal. And by the way,
that first one just unbelievable skill. Right you enter the zone,
puck kind of gets away from you, you tap it
(05:27):
to yourself and you rip it backhand almost a no
looker short side.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I mean, we know the talent in the skill that
he requires.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
And know everybody was kind of talking about, you know,
his interview that he did with with Crosby, where he's like, yeah,
my game's just really choppy. It's like that doesn't look choppy.
That looks incredibly smooth. But he has this thing going
with Natures right now where it's just I think their
(05:58):
games fit better and this, this is no disrespect to Miko. Look,
I know there's a lot of people around here, Moser
that don't have nice things to say about Miko. I do,
and part of me still to this day, not part
of me entirely. I think what happened with Miko is
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he overestimated his value to the AVS and he found
out real quick that he was not in the McKinnon
or mccar territory where you can kind of command whatever
dollar you want and they won't do anything about it.
I think it was an unfortunate thing where he got
bad advice from an agent and thought he was held
in higher regard within the organization than he actually was.
(06:42):
If he had to do it all over again, I
think he would take the number that the AVS offered
and stay in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
But he can't.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
And so now you've got Martin Nachs and I just
think it fits better his style of play fits better.
And on that top line, now you have three different
guys that can just kind of roam find space, and
(07:11):
it looks really good and it gives you know, whenever
you have that sort of thing going, you push everybody
down into slots that make them look better. You know,
it's still taking a minute, I think for this Nelson,
Nachushkin and Landy line to get to there, to get together.
By the way, that cut on Nelson's hand doesn't look great.
(07:36):
You know, Byron's skate goes up in the air and
slices them right across. I mean it looked like almost
by the wrist, which is always freaky.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
So hopefully he's gonna end up being all right from that.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Secondly, there's just a different sort of flow with how
the team operates, and you know, on the the mcar goal,
it's just Valnachushkin doing what Valonachushkin maybe only him can
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do on this team, which we've talked about this with
Val before. He I don't know if he's elite at anything,
but he's really good at everything. Like I don't know
if there's a category of his game that you would
say he does this as good or better than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
But he does everything better than most people.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And his like will to just stick with a play
and never give up on something like he's a he's
he backchecks like crazy. It's all set up because Valonachushkin
was not going to give up on that play. So
he jumps in middle of the offensive zone without the puck,
kind of right on the blue line, picks the pass off,
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weaves in between traffic, knows that Cale is firing down
the opposite side, rips one across the net, and it's
Cale with one of the easiest goals. He's going to
score as long as he fended off the guy that
was kind of on top of him. But once he
got it on his stick, there's no doubt that puck's
going in.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Like there's so.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Many good things to take away from the game, and
I know, look, I've been one of them that's doing it, saying, hey, powerplay,
what's going on? Another zero for four game for him
last night. I almost see this as you're having, okay,
a little bit of a struggle early in the year
(09:39):
to get the power play really rolling. Imagine what happens
is when it does. You know who leads the NHL
in points Right now, there's two guys that are tight
for first. Can you guess them? It's Nathan McKinnon in
(10:00):
already Nachos eight points apiece leads the NHL. There's something
about that combo that is really really impressive, and I
think it's been their style of game just seems to work.
But yes, power play needs to get it again. I
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think it's gotten better, they just haven't gotten results, and
I think those are gonna come. And this is all
going to even out in the wash. Right now, the
absit at nineteenth in the league. Power play percentage are
fifteen point eight. I think they're going to be just fine. Yes,
you want to see the number higher, probably about at
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least ten points higher.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
But again.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It's early in the year and I I'm pretty sure
they'll get that figured out. So three oh three, five
four nine texture goes wait till the playoffs when Nateate
just disappears.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, you can think that way if you want to.
I'll choose that he won't.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Like you if you're already I mean, he got traded
to the team mid season last year, had one playoff
run where let's be honest, most of the team didn't
look impressive in the postseason. So you can pin it
on a guy or two if you want to. I
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think that'd be foolish. I am going to absolutely believe
that what I'm saying out of these two is reel,
especially with an offseason to get even more chemistry together.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Settle in just a little bit. So there you go.
Avs Ticket Tuesday that we do all year on this station.
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In the meantime, watch the football games last night. We'll
get to this a little bit later. There is something
about what I watched in the doubleheader that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
I think is really interesting.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
First of all, Buffalo loses again, this time to Atlanta,
Atlanta being a porpoise. They have a good game and
a bad game, and a good game and a bad game.
It does kind of feel like Atlanta's figuring things out.
They've had three wins in four games, I mean the
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three and two on the year, but they suffered a
three point loss Week one against the Bucks. They beat
the snot out of the Vikings twenty two to six.
They had that weird loss thirty to nothing to Carolina,
which is sort of the outlier on the season for them,
then beat the Commanders by a touchdown and the Bills
by ten. I think the Falcons might be a problem
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in the NFC.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I'm a little mad at the Falcons zone not gonna lie,
or maybe mad at the Bills because the last bet
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minus four and a half and.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
The Bills laid an egg. They didn't lay it down.
They did the wrong thing, man.
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But the Bills losing again I think proves one thing
there is no elite team in the NFL. This season
at stas of right now, which is rare. Number two.
The second game that took place against Washington in Chicago
featured the number one and number two overall draft picks
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Moy's kind of interested to see how these quarterbacks are acting,
and Jaden Daniels is reminding me a lot of bon Nicks.
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So we'll get to that a little bit later.
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let's do it every Tuesday, we take a look at
the college football weekend with the little college football Stockup stockdown,
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and it was a wild, wild weekend in college football.
We always start with the quarterbacks. Please stock up Fernando Mendoza.
The numbers weren't insane. It's not like he put up
five touchdowns and he threw for six hundred yards and
all these different things.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
But he did the most important thing and the thing
that is shocking people most about Indiana, which is winning.
Mendoza was twenty of thirty one for two hundred and
fifteen yards, a touchdown and a pick. But to go
to Eugene against Dan Lanning and that Oregon team and
beat them in their own house by ten points is
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wildly impressive and very not in It's the only way
I can put it. If you had Indiana at number
three in the country going into Week eight of the
college football season, good for you.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
You're probably win. You're probably the only one. And you
know what.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
To that guy's credit, everybody was calling him a clown
last year for saying that, Oh, yeah, you're just Indiana.
Indiana's legit.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Kurt Signetti maybe with his boastful ego might be onto something.
He wins. Google him. They're six and oh this season.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
By the way, that's already their second top ten win
on their schedule because they played Illinois earlier this year
and beat them what was the finals, like sixty three
to ten. It's a fifty point win. And you might say, well, Brett,
that's it's Illinois. Who cares well? Illinois just played against
Ohio State and Ohio State beat them by eighteen. Frint
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then fifty just accept the guys Indiana's legit. It's a
lot easier to do that than try to explain why
they aren't. And Mendoza is a huge reason for it.
Seventeen touchdowns, two picks on the year. And here's the
other thing about Indiana. The best team left on their
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schedule might be Penn State, and they just fired their
coach because they have Michigan State, UCLA, Maryland, Penn State, Wisconsin,
Purdue not a murder's row left could very.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Well finish undefeated.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
You might see Indiana the number one team in the
country by the time Championship weekend rolls around. So Mendoza
gets a stock up quarterback stock down. Don't agree this
guy too harshly. Just came off an injury for a while,
he missed a month of the season, and he did
it with a hand injury. But John Matteer in his
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first came back, threw three picks against Texas and they
lost twenty three to six. That team, that rival and
three picks is not great and not being able to
put a touchdown on the board not great either. I
want to give him some grace because again he's just
coming back from an injury.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
But at the.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Same time, you can't have a game like that against
that team. And let's be honest, Texas, who started the
year number one in the country and arch Manning and
all the hype, doesn't look that way as the season's progressed.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's not like Texas is good.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
They're fine, but they got the snot beat out of
them by Texas over the weekend. And Mateer making those
kind of mistakes is a big deal. Felt like he
might have with the way that Oklahoma. Oklahoma's season was rolling,
had a shot at the Heisman before being injured. But
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I'll say this, the weird thing that game is the
panic was that can Oklahoma keep it together when he's out?
And they did. You know, he misses the game. They're
lucky enough to have a bye week sort of in between,
but they held it together and then they had this one.
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And now you're looking at the rest of the schedule.
It's like at South Carolina, Ole, miss Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri
in LSU. South Carolina's the only unranked team and all
those other ranked teams are at least sixteenth or better
in the country.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So it's not gonna get any easier.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
And I think that stop for stock for him might
continue to kind of take some hits unless he can
bounce back from this. So John Matteer gets the stock down.
Let's go Big twelve team stock up. Shootah style. Points
matter you beat a team like Arizona State. And Arizona
State is not as good as they were last year,
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but there's still a solid enough football team, especially in
the Big twelve where it's kind of hard to decipher
who's good and who's not. Texas Tech is good in
the Big twelve. After that, it's kind of like you
you gotta strain yourself to make an argument for anybody
else that's near that. But Utah forty two to ten
over Arizona State is a massive win. Here's the thing
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about them, and this is sort of a Utah special,
is that they don't do anything special. They aren't like
an amazing team throwing the football. They aren't amazing running
the football. They play really good defense, but look at
the numbers from that game, it doesn't feel like the
numbers would bear out a thirty two point win. They
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did run the ball really effectively, but what they did
better than anything else they allowed three point three yards
per play to Arizona State. Through the area and on
the ground it was virtually the same thing. I think
through the air was three point four and on the
ground is three point two something like that. Just played
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a really salty defensive game that led to them getting
a big win. So they get the stock up. Let's
go big twelve teams stock down. So this is going
to Iowa State. And this is not to his credit
what SeeU has done, but see who did has struggled
this year, especially struggled to close out games. But Iowa State,
it's the second week in a row that they've lost
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to an unranked opponent as a ranked.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Team, to which they are no longer ranked anymore. That
quarterback Becked I had some hope for him early in
the year. He was intriguing.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Big bodied guy, can run the ball a little bit,
seems to throw the ball all right. But they do
a lot of the little things poorly. They make dumb mistakes,
take penalties. They've been turning the ball over. They had
this nice start to the year. Now two straight weeks
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it's felt like in this this is the worst part
they've lost and people aren't surprised. I mean, Cincinnati the
week before last weekend played an undefeated Iowa State team
as an unranked team, and they were favored going in
the game. See you, which has struggled this year. I
ain't the spread was what six and a half I
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think is what it went down to. Maybe it was
like five by the time kickoff happened. This isn't a
surprise that Iowa State is beaten. And that's where their
stock has really fallen, is that they built up this
undefeated record and they got a good track record with
Matt Campbell, but no one is like really, I was
just kind of like, yeah, they probably shouldn't have been
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ranked to start with, so they get the stock down,
let's go national team stock up.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, I'm gonna go back to Indiana on this one.
I think that's huge.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It is.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
It's for them a statement win.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
They had a whole bunch of wins last year, but
when they played against ranked teams, that's where they started
running into trouble. And it's why people didn't believe in
Indiana this year when they were ranked as high as
they were, like they were kind of rolling through the
unranks last year. They go and they play IOA or
I'm sorry, Ohio State last year and they lost thirty
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eight to fifteen.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
You go, hmm, all right, that's our first loss of
the year. That makes them ten in one.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
They didn't beat Perdue of the final game of the year,
sixty six to nothing. That made them eleven and one.
Then they played Notre Dame in the playoff game. They
lost by ten, but it didn't look all that close,
and you go, see, this is why Indiana can't get
the credit that they deserve.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
And this year, what do they do. They beat number nine.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I was sixty three to ten in Week four and
I'm sorry, Illinois, cheez number nine, Illinois sixty three to ten,
and you go, yeah, but it's Illinois.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Who really cares Illinois. I didn't believe in either.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
And everybody was kind of like, just wait when they
play against Oregon in Oregon, they're gonna get the doors
blown off, and I'm gonna say I told you so,
well you can't because they played a really solid and
salty game in a way that Oregon usually doesn't get
bullied around like that. Oregon is putting up points no
matter who they're playing against, and they struggled. They made
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Dante Moore, who's it was between him and Mendoza really
for the best quarterback in the Big Ten right now.
And you know Julian's saying out of Iowa State, it's
gonna have something to say about that a little bit later.
But Dante Moore is somebody who's just really effective. He
runs the football well, he doesn't turn the ball over.
He's really smart. And in that game he could not
get anything going on the ground, finished with negative twenty
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seven rushing yards.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I know a lot of those are sacks, but still
he didn't get in open space and he.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Threw two picks, and you force a guy like that
to throw two picks and take six sacks. Just for
the record, Nelly, nobody sacks that Dante more had going
into that weekend. In the five previous games, ah, he
had won.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
In the end, it got to him six times. They're impressive. Again.
I said this when we were talking about Fernanda Mendoza.
Accept it. They're good. It's pretty simple. I win, Google
me national team stock down.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Remember after Week one, Alabama loses to Florida State and
we're like, man, Florida State just went from undefeated season
to two and ten record, and now week one they
beat Alabama what the hell.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Is going on here?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
They win their next two games convincingly, and you say,
all right, Florida State's back. That's awesome. And now for
the third straight week they've lost. They're all close losses,
but they just can't finish the game. All of their
good will that they built up in the first couple
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of weeks is now gone. And I'll say this about
Florida State. It's something I mentioned earlier in the year.
I think you're gonna have a really difficult time when
it comes down to you gotta throw your way into
a game, trusting Tommy Castianos. He's a really good runner
of the football. And I could tell early.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
In the year they're winning these games.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
But you've had fourteen passing attempts, and then he had eleven,
and then he had thirteen. I wonder what this looks
like when they need to dial up the pass game
more because they need to keep up with another team. Well,
that happened against Virginia, where he had thirty two passing
attempts and it resulted in two picks they lost. It
happened against Miami, where he had forty five passing attempts.
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It resulted in two picks they lost and this weekend
no interceptions played, actually a decent game, but twenty three
passing attempts and they lose a pit. I just I
don't think he's the kind of guy that if you
need a heavy passing volume from Castianos, that he's able
to keep your team in it without making mistakes. And
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for the third straight week they had to dial up
that number a little bit more and it's resulted in
Now for Florida State they take the stock down Heisman
stock up. Yeah, it's Julian saying he's completing almost seventy
nine percent of his passes at Ohio State this year.
He had three hundred and twenty six yards last week
and three touchdowns against Minnesota. Fifteen touchdowns, three picks on
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the year. If Ohio State keeps winning, he's going to
be near the top of this.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
And it just feels like Ohio State's a factory.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I mean, we went over yesterday all of the wide
receivers that were in Ohio State at the same time,
just a couple of years ago, and you have let's
see if I can do this. Off the top of
my head, I think it was Olave Marvin Harrison Garrett Wilson,
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think Brett, think oh Buka Juba and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
That's right, all of those guys on the field at
the same time. And by the way, they'll have that
Florida State or I'm sorry, Ohio State.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Is still doing that Big Bo, Big Bo. Jeremiah Smith
is a star. Okay, this is just their wide receiver,
you now, there's no other way around it. They will
always have somebody, somebody that is going to be on
the outside hauling in passes.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
That's gonna be a first round pick every single year.
By the way, their running backs name is Bo Jackson Jackson,
but his name is Bo Jackson, so he gets credit
for that. Ohio State is once again a wagon and
their quarterback. Where sometimes that stuff is harder to replace.
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You lose a guy like I wasn't overly impressed with
Will Howard last year despite him being a national champion.
Julian San is more talented than Will Howard, very clearly
a more talented passer of the football. Can he have
the same results, We'll see, but his Heisman stock is up,
Heisman stock down.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
What we kind of talked about with Organ and Dante
Moore earlier. It's a huge game against Indiana. That's one
of those like you build up your heisman resume and
put something on tape that's going to be played when
they call your name, and a loss at home really hurts.
It does, and I think there was a narrative and
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a perspective surrounding Indiana going into that game in which
Dante Moore having a two pick, six sack performance really
puts a damper on some of that heisman fuel that
he had really charging towards the middle of the season.
You just watched Indiana kind of manhandle organ and really
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make Dante Moore uncomfortable again. The Stata just threw out
a second ago. He took one sack in the previous
five games. He had six alone against Indiana. He looked uncomfortable,
and in games like that, it just hurts. So he
gets a stock down. Upset of the week got its football. Okay,
there's a number of upsets. The one that surprised me
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most wasn't even an upset. I was most surprised that
the dog butt Washington State Cougars went on the road
to Ole Miss and damn near pulled the game out
Ole Miss the number four team in the country, and
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they were right there, neck and neck within the entire game.
With seven minutes left in the fourth quarter, it was
seventeen to fourteen, had a shot the win, just couldn't
close it out. I'm honestly, if we're talking just straight shock,
that's the most shocked that I had of any game
that happened over the weekend. Now, of the actual upsets
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that took play, I think you could throw.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
See who's name in the hat that the spread started
to dwindle though when to kickoff. When it got around
time for a kickoff, I suppose Texas over over Oklahoma,
just because Oklahoma felt like they had things rolling with
John Matteer back in the lineup and Texas was struggling.
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But even all the ones that.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
We consider upsets, it's like, is SeeU over IWA stayed
a huge upset, kinda not really? Is it USC over
Michigan kinda not really? Michigan felt a little bit fraudulent.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I will say the way that Utah won overall Arizona
State was pretty shocking. But again, the game I'm most
surprised by is how close Washington State kept it against
miss So there you go. That's college football styck cups
dock down.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
We do it every week following the college football weekend.
A reminder to you guys that the keyword for this
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off and three oh three five oh four oh nine
two five back after this. All right, So we have
our first coach firing yesterday, and that.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Is Brian Callahan.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I Tennessee U. I don't know why teams do the
things they do. I got an idea. We got a
coach that we don't feel great about. We are going
to put and invest our number one overall draft pick
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and a quarterback. In a month and a half into
the season, We're gonna fire his head coach. Do you
know how often that's happened? By the way, do you
want to hear what stupid football teams do? Now, let's
see if you can get it. Number one overall draft
pick this.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Year was.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
It was cam Ward Correct.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
His coach was fired mid season. The number one overall
draft pick last year.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Was oh, putting me on the spot here.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's right, of course, mister painted nails himself.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Matt Eberfluss was fired midway through his first season.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
That's because his cell phone was as bad as his offense.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
The first overall pick the year before.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
That was another quarterback, Bryce Young. Frank Reich was fired
midway through the season. What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Here's what I think it's funny. I am.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
A pusherbacker on the idea that if you play a
quarterback too early that you're going to ruin his confidence
and he's going to be bad.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I don't think that exists. For quarterbacks who are going
to be good.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
I think they have to have a confidence that they
know maybe I'll struggle my rookie year, but I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Figure this out.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
And if they don't have that level of confidence, I
don't think they're going to be good anyway. I don't
think you need to coddle somebody into playing good football,
because what's the difference between doing that early or doing
that in year three when they struggle. Struggling is struggling.
You either have what it takes or you don't. That's
why I was a big fan of playing bow Knicks
at the beginning last year. It's like, just rip the
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band aid off and do.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
This bow Knicks.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Let's mess out.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Have him prove that he's a good quarterback or don't.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Like there is no amount of struggle early in his
career that if it ruins him. He's not mentally strong
to start with, certainly not mentally strong enough to lead
an entire football organization to be the face of your franchise.
You know who struggled a lot his rookie year, Peyton
Manning through like thirty picks. He was fine because you
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have to be. So I don't buy into that stuff.
Here's what I do buy into. When you draft somebody
at quarterback and you change your head coach six weeks
into the season, and next year he's gonna be starting
over with a brand new offense, and you do that
to quarterbacks repeatedly, I do think that ruins him, never
being able to get into a rhythm, never fully knowing
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an offense, consistently changing things.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
They never get to like have any footing within an
offense they're comfortable in because they're always learning something new.
That's stupid, that's dumb, And I just I don't understand
why you'd even you know, it's for the record, I
know things are going better, but Brian Dable and the
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Giants are the same thing. All it's gonna take is
the Broncos to beat the I'm not saying this is
gonna happen, just hypothetically. All it's gonna take is the
Broncos to beat the Giants by thirty points and forced
three interceptions and sack Jackson Dart eight times like they
did to Justin Fields, and then him to follow that
up with two more losses before Brian Dable's probably gone
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to and they're facing the same situation, Like, I don't
know how teams can be this dumb. By the way,
you know who else thinks teams are stupid? Can you
give me the Mike Tomlin clip I sent the sea
you this morning, Nelly, Mike Tomlin thinks and called him
out by name.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
A GM in.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
His own division is stupid, and he said it at
the press conference yesterday.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Because they have.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
A really commit ending lead on the AFC North right now,
which I don't even think they expected considering how bad
Baltimore and Cincinnati have turned into that they lost both
of their quarterbacks. Well, Baltimore were struggling even before that,
but now both of their quarterbacks are out of the
lineup there losing football games. They look both of those
teams look like they're lost, and the Pittsburgh Steelers have
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a stranglehold on the AFC North now. And then Mike
Tomlin sees Cincinnati acquired Joe Flacco from a division rival
in Cleveland and had this to say.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Called out another GM by name, Well, he must be
a lot smarter than me, which is always, isn't that
one great? Yeah, that guy must be a lot smarter
than me to do You're always like, what a moron.
Now he's pissed because the one team that he's probably
still concerned about is Cincinnati that if they keep things
on the rails, Joe Burrow has a good chance of
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coming back late in the year and then there'll be
a brand new football team. If they could stay in
the playoff hunt, then all of a sudden, they're a
threat again.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So he's pissed about that.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
I don't think Cleveland has any obligation to worry about
what happens in Pittsburgh. You know, Cleveland's worried about losing
every game and getting the number one pick now, because
that's it looks like that's where they're headed. But regardless,
I'm watching the Monday night games last night, and you
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had one game that featured the number two, number one,
and number two overall draft picks last year in Caleb
Williams and Jade and Daniels, the same draft that Bonnicks
was selected in. And I like to watch games like
that just to get a read on, like, Okay, what
are their year two quarterbacks look like?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
And honestly not great. Jade and Daniels finished with three
touchdowns through the air.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
But if you watch the game, he was okay, made
a couple of plays, had a terrible interception, awful.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
And then biggest play of the game. They're trying to
burn the.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Clock so that Chicago has no time or at least
drive down the field get another score and make it
more difficult. And did you see the fumble at the
end of the game, Jade and Daniels basically on a handoff,
loses control and throws it into the chest of Crosskey Merritt.
Chicago recovers, they go thirty six yards. They only need
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it like fifteen, but they go thirty six kick the
game winner and ball games over.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
By the way, do you know who was kicking for
the Bears? Uh?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Uh? Was it Moody?
Speaker 6 (41:01):
It was?
Speaker 5 (41:02):
It was forty nine ers cast off Jake Movie, Yeah,
who couldn't hit the broadside of a barn for two
years in San Francisco, And the Bears elevated him off
the practice squad and he hit.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
What hit four?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
But he had one blocked, which was blocked by Javon
Kinlaw former forty nine ers, So that was nine or
on niner violence. But yeah, man, that was a crazy game.
And that was one of those plays the Jade and
Daniel Jaden and Daniels handoff were On the one hand,
you want to go man, you got to make those plays.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
What an idiot.
Speaker 5 (41:30):
But on the other hand, it was raining cats and dogs. Dude,
that ball was soaked. He just hot potatoed that right
past his running back.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Poor guy.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I'll say this about these two qbs. Does Caleb Williams
look better this year?
Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's better.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
I still don't think he's super impressive. Now they've won
three straight. Their offense teams have found their footing now.
But he's got three games that he has one touchdown
or less and another game he had two touchdowns, but
(42:06):
that's when they lost fifty two to twenty one to Detroit,
and then he had one really good game against Dallas
where he had four. He's better, and I figured he
would be under Ben Johnson. But let me make the
comparison between Jade and Daniels and bow Knicks for a second.
(42:27):
Everybody acts as if Jaden Daniels is very easily on
the doorstep to being a top five quarterback in the league.
And I think Jayden Daniels is impressive. He can do
a little bit of both through the air on the ground.
But I want to remind people of something. The battle
in the race last year between Jayden Daniels and bow
(42:48):
Knicks for who was having the better rookie season was
pretty damn close. It all separated when the playoffs started
and Jayden Daniels went to the NFC Championship Game. He
won Rookie of the Year, but it wasn't by a
crazy crazy like. It's not as if he was doubling
up the stats on bow Knicks.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Their stats were closed.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
The separation was made by his performance in the postseason
and his ability to win in the postseason, which guess
that matters. But I don't see a ton different between
those two guys. Honestly, you know, he missed a couple
of games already this year. But between him and Knicks,
(43:38):
I think they have games in which their stats at
times look better than what they played and at times
it looks worse. So, just going back the last year,
one guy had three hundred or three thousand, seven hundred
and seventy five yards, twenty nine touchdowns, twelve picks in
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sixty six percent completion. The other guy had thirty five
hundred yards, sixty nine percent completion, twenty five touchdowns and
nine picks. Nice you tell me, is there a massive
difference between those numbers? You could argue that bo Nicks
were better because he was the first one I read off.
(44:20):
And now this year Jade and Daniels in four games
has eight hundred and seventy five passing yards, seven touchdowns
and one pick sixty two percent completion. Bo Nicks has
thirteen hundred yards sixty four or sixty five percent completion,
nine touchdowns, four picks. They aren't that far apart, is
all I'm trying to get at. The one thing he
(44:40):
does a lot better than bo is. He runs a
football a lot better, and I just think it's more
of a willingness issue for bo to do that than
than Jade Nana's just being better. But even in the
rushing numbers, bo Nicks has thirty three carries for one
hundred and twenty four yards. Jaden Daniels has thirty six
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for one seventy six. That's not even that far apart.
I'm telling you, these guys are a lot more similar
than people are willing to believe. And by the way,
in these games with Jayden Daniels, he's two and two
so far this year. Losses to Green Bay in Chicago.
(45:23):
Did get a win over the Chargers last week, but
that was a pretty decimated Chargers team and had a
close win against the Giants earlier in the year.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
People like to pretend that Jaden Daniels is heading his
shoulders the best quarterback in that draft class, and nobody
else can say any word about it. I think that
you can make an argument for a couple of different people,
including Drake May.
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