October 17, 2025 • 43 mins
0:00 - The Avalanche beat the Blue Jackets last night to continue their hot start! They're now 4-0-1! Not too shabby. Brett's getting a feeling about the Avs he hasn't had in a while...
14:55 - It appears Joe Flacco discovered the Fountain of Youth, and balled OUT last night against the Steelers on TNF. Heck, so did Aaron Rodgers! Turns out, Flacco figured out how to win ballgames for the Bengals: just throw the ball to Ja'Marr Chase 10,000 times and good things happen.
Next, Colin Cowherd is out here perpetrating propaganda. And Kaner's gotta call him out.
32:36 - Indiana heard the rumors that Penn State might snatch Curt Cignetti. So they took measures to make sure that doesn't happen.
14:55 - It appears Joe Flacco discovered the Fountain of Youth, and balled OUT last night against the Steelers on TNF. Heck, so did Aaron Rodgers! Turns out, Flacco figured out how to win ballgames for the Bengals: just throw the ball to Ja'Marr Chase 10,000 times and good things happen.
Next, Colin Cowherd is out here perpetrating propaganda. And Kaner's gotta call him out.
32:36 - Indiana heard the rumors that Penn State might snatch Curt Cignetti. So they took measures to make sure that doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
Check out Brett weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
Radio ninety two to five and on the Altitude Sports
Radio Act.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
The last face off of the game against Charlie Coyle,
Kelly wins it and it is over in Ohio. Last year,
Colorado started.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh and four.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This year four oh and one, scoring four straights to
beat the Blue Jackets for the thirtieth time ever here
in Columbus. Final score from nationwide Avalanche four and the
Blue Jackets won.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is a good song. Yeah, yeah, I had to say.
I love like when cities and states are are self aware.
There's nothing wrong with Ohio, Nebraska's tourism motto or whatever
they call those slogans Nebraska. It's not for everybody. I
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like a little self awareness. So the Avs are now
four to zero and one to start the year, almost
a direct flip of what happened the year previous. They'd
given up in four games twenty five goals. That was
last year. This year they're defensively a lot more locked in,
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tuned into each other. I think adding a veteran presence
like Brent Burns has really helped. They have a very
sort of sticky sense on defense where they just they
don't allow a ton of prime scoring chances. And you're
seeing that thing that they did a couple of years back,
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where they're out shooting their opponents, like last night thirty
five to twenty three in shots on goal. That's not
what I would say a coincidence with how you feel
where this team should be. They're very much a team
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that if you give them opportunities, they will capitalize on them,
and they really do a good job of stopping you
from getting opportunities to capitalize on. I want to talk
more about Scott Wedgwood in a second, but I think
there's two things that are incredibly encouraging coming out of
last night, and it's that I think the most important
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thing that could happen that did is not the power play.
We focus a lot on the power play, and we
should because it's the thing that killed you last year.
The most important thing from last night was your second
line got gone. Brock Nelson gets on the board, Val
gets on the board, he adds another one with the
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empty netter at the end of the game. I think
if you want to find the most crucial area where
you could.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Win and.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Get an advantage and a leg up that most teams
don't have. It's that you had that back in twenty
twenty two with nos Kadri in the middle of a
very very good second line, and they were able to
for how good the top line is McKennon, Nachius, everybody
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else lecking in for as good as they are just
racking up the points over and over and over and
over again. If you can take them out and then
throw someone else on the field and go here, you
go deal with this too, because remember that's a big line.
Those are big dudes that play physically, that do the
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dirty work, that kind of encompass everything you want from
a mix of skill in that sort of grindiness. And
for them to get on the board like that last
night a couple of different times, I think is huge
because it's what you've been missing. Columbus is a good team.
They finished last year with eighty nine points. It's a
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good team. But getting that second line rolling is I
think a necessity if you want to be taken seriously
as a Cup contender this year. Here's the other thing,
you know, and I'm gonna keep doing this because I
said this during the offseason that this team gives me
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a lot of vibes of twenty twenty two. And it's
nice that I'm having a true because I don't think
I've had this feeling at the same time before. We've
known these teams are talented. But how talented can they be? Hmm.
I've compared them to twenty twenty two. I've compared the Nuggets.
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They remind me a lot of twenty twenty three. Actually
they remind me of twenty twenty three and then some
like a better version with more depth and more veteran leadership.
But the other thing that takes me back with the Avs,
what else do they have on this team that they
haven't had in a while that they had and possessed
in twenty twenty two goaltending that you trust. This is
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a backup. Scott Wedgwood is backup on this team. Scott
Wedgwood has been numbers wise, like the best goalie in
the league since February. It's the graphic that they had
up on Altitude last night, Motion Riker, we're talking about it.
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So Scott Wedgwood in five starts this year is given
up one goal. One goal four to Dallas, one goal
to Utah, one goal to La Pretty good. You back
to last year, Scott Wedgwood towards the end of the
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season was giving up on average for the last like
I don't know two months about one point seven goals
per game. You don't have a goalie you trust. You
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have two goalies that you trust. The only game that
you lost this season is the Dallas game, in which
you probably should have won had it not been for
how good Ottinger was. You know, And I still go
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back and here's what's incredible and why I want to
focus on much a lot today. Think about the conversations
that we were having the last two years, whether it
was heading into the postseason, whether it was starting the
regular season, and just the gigantic contrast that you found
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yourself in between your feelings now when a goaltender takes
the ice and when it was g or Giev over
the last few years. It's like you had to convince
yourself to be like, no, no, this is fine, it's fine.
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But we all know if you're trying to tell yourself that,
it's like you're not acknowledging a reality that's sticking out
in your head. Which is, this guy's not very good
and we could be down four to nothing by the
end of the first period. I mean, that's the truth.
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When you had you rgev here, there was this sinking
feeling that any game could get away with you at
any moment, and a lot of times it would happen
early in a game, which is brutal. Not only do
you put your team behind the eight ball, there is
a confidence that's just not there. Does this team look confident,
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especially in their goaltender if they make a mistake, Do
they trust that he's going to step up and make
a play behind him? One hundred percent?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
They do?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, there's a there's a that confidence with this
team that I think is just going to continue to
grow and build. And a Texas says this, the other
thing they haven't had since twenty twenty two is the captain.
That's true. I mean I know that that. Ever, everybody
says the intangibles of Laniskog's game are what makes him
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so special, but he's also a pretty damn good hockey
player too. Still looks like he's he's working his way back.
I mean, we all kind of understand. He played a
few postseason games last year. But when you're out for
almost four years, three and a half whatever the number
was from his last regular season game, I think it's
going to take a minute for you to adjust a
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game speed. And I think that we need to perhaps
not acknowledge, but take your expectations for him down a
not your two, because I think if you expected Gabe
to come out here and be the exact same guy
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that he was back in twenty twenty two, it's just
it's probably not going to be the case. So he's
got one point through through five minutes so far this year.
I expect those numbers to jump a little bit as
the season goes on, but I still think you should
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you should temper them a little bit. The focus for me, though,
is you have goaltending again, and they've had an offseason
to kind of get to know each other, know each
other's tendencies, figure out where guys are going to be,
and all of that stuff matters, know as you kind
of move forward here. They played three of these first
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five on the road, taking care of business in those games.
You got the game tomorrow against Boston. It's gonna be
the only time that the Bruins come to town. But
it's Boston, Utah, Carolina and then Boston again for the
next week, And I got that feeling again, and it's
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a good one to have. There isn't a game when
the Avs are fully healthy that I'm expecting them not
to win. There will be tough games. There will be
games in which you match up evenly. I'm telling you,
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even with a match up against Dallas and I know
they got your number, I expect them to win because
I think the Avs are good. Texas says, do we
have any idea when Blackwood is coming back yet? I
know we asked Bednar about that. Do you remember, Nellie,
you have the top of your head what Bennar told us.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yes, he said that Blackwood did not go on the
road trip, that he hung out at home, so they
were going to get back from Columbus and then reevaluate him.
I'm assuming that he wouldn't come in for the Boston game,
So maybe we're looking at next week.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
For a return.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, I don't know, Boston's good. You may as well
don't shake things up.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, I don't know if the way that if I
remember right, the tone in which he said it was
he's getting close, But not there yet sort of thing,
So take that forever is maybe that's another week, maybe
it's two weeks, maybe it's two days. I have no idea,
but it feels like it's it's close to being around
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the corner. But even still, while you wait for him
to get healthy, it's like you don't feel the need
to rush anything because Wood's got you. It's the same
as the old uh Frankie and Darcy thing. Darcy gets
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a stick to the eyeball and you're like, good grief.
Of course that had to happen in the postseason, and
then Frankie steps in and plays well, does nothing but
win in the meantime, and it does feel like you've
got a little bit of that como going right now.
Three to zero, three, five, four nine two five, Shop
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I have a lot of thoughts about this Giants game
coming up, because I think there's a lot of variables
that can make this game weird. But I have a hope.
It's not an expectation, it's a hope of one thing
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that we can get in the middle of this UH.
I think it would calm a lot of different fears
and the Giants game is not one that, at least
at the beginning of the season you head on your
schedule as a this one could be tough. Now, I
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was trying to tell you that coming back from London
with no rest is probably gonna be a little bit
sneaky of a game, no matter who's playing. But we'll
get to that in just a second. By the way,
thank you, Nelly. You just sent me this from Jesse
Montano yesterday that Mackenzie Blackwood is in Loveland with the
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Eagles and he's doing a conditioning stint, so he is
close close to coming back. But if you missed it,
you can find the answers on the podcast because we
talked to Jared Bednar two days ago. iTunes, Spotify, mos
Lombardy and Keynes where you can find that to the Broncos.
And also last night, you guys remember how pissed Mike
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Tomlin was that Joe Flacco was traded in the vision
and we played it and I asked the question, do
you think he's nervous that Flacco's the coach or the
quarterback for them now? And Moser said he ain't nervous
about Flacco, is he? Well, maybe Mike Tomlin was onto
something gets all that next. So last night Thursday Night Football.
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We'll get to the Giants and Broncos in a second.
By the way, they're discussing this on Get Up on ESPN,
and Harry Douglass and Bart Scott have the Broncos, but
Peter Schrager and Joe Fortenbaugh have both taking the Giants.
It's a fifty to fifty split. U We'll get there
in a second. But the game last night between Cincy
and Pittsburgh, in which was named the Icy Hot Poll,
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which is first of all, incredible. I'll tell you what
else is incredible. Some of the throws that Aaron Rodgers
can still make it fifty seven years old. I mean
it's crazy. I mean he had obviously the last throw
to Friar Muth to take the lead and what looked
like probably win them the game at the time. But
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he had a couple where he's just dropping it in
the bucket in between three guys who were sitting down
in zones, just out the out, just past the outreached
hands of multiple guys.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He is.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
So fun to watch still and I'm kind of blown away,
and you guys know, my feelings on Aaron Rodgers. Not
a huge fan, but I will never deny somebody's insane talent,
and he is insanely talented. Now to the other side,
did Joe Flacco's credit Joe Flacco joined the team midweek
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last week? Didn't look great and it's hard. Look, man,
you join a team, especially at that position, not knowing
the offense in the middle of the week, good luck
trying to make that work. And then it's almost as
if you watch Flacco in his second game with Cincinnati
and he's like, oh, I can just throw it to
Jamar Chase. No many targets Jamar Chase had last night?
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Don't look, don't cheat everybody, Just in your head, how
many targets did Jamar Chase have in the win over
Pittsburgh last night? Now that you do, you care to
take a guess one million, twenty three twenty three targets.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And by the way, I just went it on record
that I've been playing the long game this whole season
because I took Jamar Chase with the number one over
our overall pick smart in our Altitude Fantasy Football drammart
and it has done absolutely nothing for me until now.
So I've been I've been playing the long con all
you're all welcome. I've just been waiting for his day.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, Jamar is he's had like a couple of games
that were really good. But when you have somebody like
Jake Browning throwing in the football, it's gonna make it
super difficult. But Joe Flacco dropped back. He goes, oh,
I understand the offense. Now that's not that hard. I
just dropped back and I throw it to number one,
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and if number one is in triple coverage, then I
throw it to number five and then we win. I mean,
that's that's really how the entire offense went. Joe Flako
had forty seven passing attempts, twenty three to Chase, ten
to T Higgins, and then it was four dump offs
to Chase brown It was fourth rows to know a
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fan and four to always forget how to say this
guy's name, iyashovas ayashovas whatever, it's Higgins and it's Jamar Chase.
But if you guys remember when that trade went down,
there was an Indivision trade. So indivision trades are rare.
I think that's kind of silly, the Indivision stuff first
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of all, but put that to the side for a
second in division trade from Cleveland to Sincy. So that's
rare to start with, and the fact that it was
a starting quarterback that got traded is even more rare.
Here was Mike Tomlin middle of the week talking about
Brown's GM Andrew Berry that okayed the trade.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
When I asked the question, did Mike Tomlin say that
out of nervousness? Why would he be nervous? Well, Steelers
had a pretty good lead on the AFC North. The
only team I think they're truly concerned about is Cincinnati.
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That if they can just hang on for dear life
with a guy like Flacco and keep their head above water.
Joe Burrow is expected to return at some point towards
the end of the season, and then maybe they can
rattle off a few wins and make a run for it. Well,
maybe those fears are real and they're grounded in reality.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Once Twitter did what Twitter does best and dug up
a clip from Tomlin. I think about a month ago
when he was talking about the Colts and last year
with Joe Flacco, and when they were playing the Colts,
he told everybody, keep Anthony Richardson on his feet, don't
hurt him because we could beat him. We don't want
Flacco to come in the game.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, We obviously as respect for Flacca And now, look,
he's played against Flaco for a good portion of his life.
I mean, Flaco was in Baltimore forever, and Baltimore was
still I mean, they were just as good with Flacco
as they were with Lamar. Not to say Lamar isn't
a better quarterback. He is, but they were still a
really competitive team. Now do I think Flacco's skills are
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still how do you want to put this? Are they
still respectable?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Are they in the great category now?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
But a couple of really good wide receivers will help
you look better. Yo Shivash, thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Shavash is that guy's name, the wide receiver from Cincinnati
that every time you look at it, you're like so
the I in the O is a yo. Texas says
Joe Flaco never played like that. Here remind you, Jamar,
Chase and t Higgins are things. They're very, very shiny
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toys that you get to play with. Now, since he
gets the win last night, uh, I mean, you know,
it was the exact thing that you thought might happen.
They get the ball back with two twenty one left
and they're down one, and here's what it looks like.
Flaco to Chase, Flaco to Chase, Chase Brown up the middle,
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Flacco to Higgins, by the way, incredibly smart play in
unselfish play from Higgins at the end of that game
to catch that deep ball, had to walk in for
a touchdown and instead slid down around though what was
it like the five eight yard line whatever to burn
all the clock down to the end and hit the
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game winning field goal. Anyway, a really good Thursday night game.
Now to the Broncos. There's one thing you want to say,
you know, Drake green Law has come off ir Maybe
he gets the start or something this weekend. Maybe not.
I have no idea. This is all about the offense.
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I mean, here's the good news, and there's a lot
of good news for the Broncos so far this year.
Your defense is good enough that it's making up for
the lack of offense that you have, Number one, number two.
Your team is good enough that you can be disappointed
with a win. That's always a good place to be
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that you win a football game. Yeah, but it didn't
look good enough. Well, that's a good sign shows the
healthy state of where your franchise is at at the moment.
But the bad news is you don't know if the
offense is going to play well in any given week.
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And I've been hearing a lot of this. You know,
Colin Cowherd had like a four minute die tribe yesterday,
and this is representative of how a lot of people
in town feel. I don't think anybody outside of Denver
fields this way. And I always get nervous on stuff
like that when the town is split on something, and
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then you look at what everybody nationally except for Cowherd
is saying about a guy in particular, and you're like,
they don't seem to be having the same sort of
like split into difisive discussion that we are. I think
nationally people would tell you they don't think bo Nicks
is very good. Now they could be wrong. They could
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be but I think if you're being objective about things,
bow Knicks has not played well this year, and you
could toss out to me that he's a slow starter,
and that's fine. Well, it needs to start because we're
in week seven. Slow starter, I can understand for like, hey,
the first three four weeks of the season starts off slow,
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gets it together, and then they go in hyperdrive. Cool. Well,
we're past the third of the way through the season
and we're almost to the halfway point, and it's fine.
I suppose to be a slow starter when you have
the league's best defense, but there's gonna be a time
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where you don't, and that slow start stuff is gonna
bite you in the butt. You know who knows that
better than anybody. The team we just talked about, Cincinnati
is always in scramble mode at the end of the year,
trying to figure out how many wins consecutively they need
to get to put themselves back in a playoff spot
because they start the year one and four. I don't
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want to become that, so I would prefer he's not
a slow starter, But if he is, we need to
start seeing the start now, no more slow, just start now.
I sent you a DM last night, Nellie with the
cowhard stuff. Can you just play this off your computer
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and then we can sort of start and stop. And
I'm not gonna play this whole thing, but i want
you to hear a little bit of this, and again
it I'm being honest. I mean, we live in a
very very odd time politically right now, where it's like
you do kind of have to sift through And this
isn't a specific thing for either side of the aisle.
(26:01):
Both of them do it, but you feel like you
need to sift through somebody's propaganda for a few minutes,
you know what I'm talking about, Like you'll see, especially
these ones like the ticktokers or the people on YouTube
again on both sides of the aisle, where you're like, man,
(26:23):
your talking points sound really familiar to another guy that
I just heard talk about this, Like you're saying the
exact same thing I'm telling you right now. Colin Cowherd
is borderline I think giving me propaganda like he's getting
text from Sean Payton, like say this on your show tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
But listen, listen, I said, when I thought Caleb Williams
was gonna be really, really good, and Justin Fields probably
never will be. When I first moved to Chicago, people
would say, oh, Justin Fields, well, that ship has sailed
three teams not working. Caleb Williams, as apparent, I think,
to some degree, has turned the corner. He's not there yet.
He still misses on accuracy. But young quarterbacks are tough
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to judge. Sometimes they shock you how good they are
right out of the gate Jaden Daniels, and then some
shock you how good they get quickly in you know,
year two, Drake May. Some are a work in progress,
Caleb Williams, Michael Pennix, and some say bow Nicks. I
don't think bow Nicks is a work in progress. I
think he's a franchise quarterback that I wish would run more.
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He did last year, so he stopped doing it this year.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
That's true. I think that bo Nix's lack of wanting
to run the ball. And I don't know if this
is a mentality thing of I need to get better
from the pocket, so I'm going to stay in the pocket.
I would just remind him, damn the perception of things.
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Who cares if you do something well? Then use it.
And the funny thing about his legs is he is
really good in that category, like uniquely gifted as a runner.
In the same sort of echelon, maybe a step below.
You know, at the top of it, you have your
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Lamar's and your Jaden Daniels. I would put him in
whatever that tier is below it. You're Josh Allen. You're uh,
who would be another guy that goes in there.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You're Josh Allen tier of just a running quarterback, You're
Jalen Hurts type. Like I think that bo Nix is
in there and he does need to use that more so.
To Coward's credit, I agree, but continue.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
He's highly effective and I think he should run more.
But I saw a story today about bo Nicks. How
to make bo Nicks better? Read the headline. Well, he's
twenty three NFL starts in His completion percentage is sixty
six percent, good enough to get you to a Super Bowl.
Forty three total touchdowns, seventeen turnovers, pretty good beginning of
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year two. Passer ratings low nine ninety two. I'd rather
have it at ninety seven ninety eight, but he's fourteen
and nine in a division with Spags, Jesse Minterter and
now Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Okay, pause again again. I think that those are totally
fair points to make. Talking about his record, I would
argue to you that when somebody with nicks comes out
barking a whole bunch of stats at me, because I
know they look good on paper they actually they really do,
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it doesn't translate to what your eyes are telling you, though.
And this isn't to say that he's playing bad. I
would say he's playing not up the standard of what
you'd want. And he said twenty three starts in that's
not a ton on the resume. I don't care how many.
If he had one hundred starts in college, wouldn't matter
to me. The NFL is different. But you know, I
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say this all the time that with young quarterbacks there
is no need to be perfect. There is no need.
No what he is asking you to go out there
and be thirty five of forty three hundred and fifty
yards and four touchdowns. It's not the game you need.
What you do need is you need the moments in
the game that make you go yep. That's why I
think that guy's good. I'll tell you who's doing that
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right now in a big way. Is Drake May. Is
Drake May perfect every week? No? But does Drake May
make like three or four plays every single week where
you go, WHOA, Okay, that's what you build on. So
this this isn't about some sort of bow Knicks disbelief
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or anything like that. What it is about is I
need to see some evidence here. You need to put
together a consistent game. Again. The offense has been bad
more than it's been good this year. You want to
call it slow starts, fine, go ahead, but you gotta
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start about this week against a Giants team that's probably
better than we thought, but still not great. You know
what the defense is going to do against the rookie quarterback.
And for all this fun stuff we're having with Skataboo,
and then we'll get to Cam later. I suppose Tam
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Scattaboy is a really fun story, and I think that's
kind of where it ends. Decent enough back, fun to
watch throws caution to the wind. You love all that grit,
grimy sort of all that stuff that he brings to
the table, and yet I don't think anybody's gonna confuse
(31:51):
him with saquon your defense is gonna handle business. I
want to see the offense put together a consistent game
in which the offense moves the chains with regularity capitalizes
in the red zone. When the play is there, you
make the play, like all that stuff. So three zero, three, five,
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here shortly, it's a bud Light football front. It's a
bud Light Football Friday. That's what I meant to say.
I'm really intriguing college football matchups this weekend too. But
did you guys see yesterday amid all of the Penn
State talk, Hey, we fired James Franklin. Who's gonna be
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on the board for us? Well, it could be our
our guy who is coaching currently in the Big Ten,
but Penn States is alma mater in Matt Ruhle. Or
we could get the guy who says I win Google me.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's pretty simple, I win google me.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Indiana saw that and goes, yeah, we're gonna have to
make the Godfather offer, aren't we. That's exactly what they did.
They go out to Kurt Signetti and they give him
a metric bleep ton of money. So Indiana and Kurtzignetti,
they agreed to a new eight year, eleven point six
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million dollar contract per year. By the way, that goes
through twenty thirty three. The buyout if somebody else wanted
to poach him is ninety three million dollars. That is
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what Signetti would get in his new deal if he
was fired without cause. So they looked at him and said,
you're going to coach here until you die. And it
was just a middle finger to anybody like Penn State
who thought they were going to be able to poach him.
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I've always thought, if you're a guy like that's in
Signetti's position, I know, the appeal of having a big
time college football gig and the money that comes with
it and the resources that come with it is all
something that is very intriguing. I also think it's a
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lot more comfortable life if you're out of school. That's
like a wrung down from that because if you have
success there and I would consider see you one of
these places, and I think you're kind of seeing that
with Dion so far. If you have even a little
bit of success at a place like that, you will
be adored and the pressure for guys calling for your
job is not going to be as intense you think
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about Kaylin de boor Now, Washington's a big time football program,
don't get me wrong, but you go over to Alabama,
you lose to Vandy the first time, and guys want
to run you out of town already. If Indiana has
another eleven in one season and makes the playoff and
then the following year they go three and nine, he's
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not getting fired. They're like, whatever, we got to give
him more time. It's one of the beauties of being
in a place like that. So I actually think he
made the wise decision of not only getting the bag,
but staying in a place where the expectations are lower.
I think is smart. Now, what does Penn State do?
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Because this never feels good when you're a school like
that and you fired a coach that has at least
a decent resume with the promise that you're gonna find
somebody better. This is not a rebuilding job at Penn State.
This is taking what's left behind and capitalizing on it.
You lost a big time head coach that you were
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probably targeting, So where do you go from here? So
they're faced with those kinds of questions. Speaking of money,
By the way, this is one of the funniest headlines
I think I've ever read, so scooball in Detroit. They're Ace,
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who has just been mowing guys down the last couple
of years in Detroit. He's due for a contract. Detroit's
freaking out because they're like, I don't if somebody pulls
the Kurt Signetti and makes him the Godfather offer, can
we afford to do that? This is from John Hayman.
I'm gonna read this out loud. Tell me if you laughed.
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The Tigers in school ball reportedly are over two hundred
and fifty million dollars apart in negotiations on an extension.
We hear this all the time. And let's go back
to last year with the Avs and Miko. So reportedly
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the Avs gave him someone in the ballpark twelve. Let's
just call it eleven to be charitable to Miko they
offered him eleven million dollars a year. Miko wanted fourteen reportedly,
so that's three million apart per year over the life
of an eight year contract would be twenty four million dollars.
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And Nellie, we were all kind of sitting there like, man,
twenty four million dollars apart is a big number. Imagine
if I told you the Avalanche and Miko Rinton and
were two hundred and fifty million dollars apart on the contract.
You aren't even negotiating at that point. That is just
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you were you were. You were saluting each other on
the way out the door. If I go into if
my contract's up, and I walk into our PD's office
or GM's office, they say, contracts up, let's start talking turkey,
and they go, cool, I got a number of my head.
You got a number. I'm like, I got a number,
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and they go, I'll tell you what, here's our number.
And I go, just gonna be honest with you. You're
about two hundred and fifty million dollars apart from what
I was thinking. Where do you go from there? There
was no meeting in the middle of two hundred and
fifty million dollars apart. I was going to give you
RB's coupons. Oh well, I wanted eighteen Lamborghinis. What if
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we do Afford Pinto and I put the RB's coupons
in the glovebox like there's nowhere you can negotiate from there.
It's done, which means congratulations, scooball. Welcome to the Yankees
or the Dodgers or somebody, because it ain't going to
be Detroit. But I say this to tell you, if
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that happens to the Rockies, it would be a good
thing because you would have somebody that's worth two hundred
and fifty million dollars or more than that. That's what
you're a part on negotiations right now, first of all.
Second of all, it shows that teams can be competitive
despite having stuff like that going on, and that should
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be the goal of the Rockies, which we've discussed and
we'll continue to discuss sure this offseason is they figure
out their new front office. Now again, speaking of money,
lay it down is gonna come your way at nine
to twenty. But we do this at the end of
the appetizer every Friday. Nelly, come on, everybody, do it
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with us. Betsy, Betie Benny, bet turn it up, Nelly,
turn it up, Hey Ladder, I want volume on this.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Come on, everybody, Betty Betsy Ready, Betty, Betty, Betsy, Betty
Letsy and his bet.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean, is it not the greatest song you've ever
heard in your life? So here's what happens every Friday.
At the end of the appetizer, Nelly sings this song,
and I give you two games with no research. I
give you a lock, and I give you an underdog
of the week. My lock already kind of feels like
an underdog. Don't care. Vandy, who's coming off a loss
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to Alabama. It was a closer loss than the final
score indicated. It was thirty to fourteen against Bama, but
they had two red zone turnovers that led to that
score looking a lot more lopsided than the game was.
They play against LSU. Both teams are five and one.
LSU can't score, Vandy can. The spread is actually Vandy
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favored by two and a half at home, and I
love that number. I think Diego Pavia bounces back in
a big way. Nus Meyer has been turning the ball
over quite a bit this year. I'm giving Vandy the
lock of the week now for the underdog. This one's
gonna sound unconventional because Arizona has lost four straight and
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they're playing against the Packers. But here's what's happened in
the four losses for Arizona. They've been competitive, they've been
right in these games, and they've blown it late. They've
lost by one to the Niners, three to the Seahawks,
one to the Titans, and four to the Colts, and
they've had guys dropping balls in the way of the
end zone and kicking balls into the in zone for
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other teams to recover the spread six and a half.
I think them as the dog against the Packers in
Arizona are going to cover the six and a half.
They'll keep it within a touchdown because they have every
game that they've lost this year. So there you go,
Bridy and his bets. Noll, you sound it beautiful this morning?
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
The last face off of the game against Charlie Coyle,
Kelly wins it and it is over in Ohio. Last year,
Colorado started.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Oh and four.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
This year four oh and one, scoring four straights to
beat the Blue Jackets for the thirtieth time ever here
in Columbus. Final score from nationwide Avalanche four and the
Blue Jackets won.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It is a good song. Yeah, yeah, I had to say.
I love like when cities and states are are self aware.
There's nothing wrong with Ohio, Nebraska's tourism motto or whatever
they call those slogans Nebraska. It's not for everybody. I
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like a little self awareness. So the Avs are now
four to zero and one to start the year, almost
a direct flip of what happened the year previous. They'd
given up in four games twenty five goals. That was
last year. This year they're defensively a lot more locked in,
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tuned into each other. I think adding a veteran presence
like Brent Burns has really helped. They have a very
sort of sticky sense on defense where they just they
don't allow a ton of prime scoring chances. And you're
seeing that thing that they did a couple of years back,
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where they're out shooting their opponents, like last night thirty
five to twenty three in shots on goal. That's not
what I would say a coincidence with how you feel
where this team should be. They're very much a team
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that if you give them opportunities, they will capitalize on them,
and they really do a good job of stopping you
from getting opportunities to capitalize on. I want to talk
more about Scott Wedgwood in a second, but I think
there's two things that are incredibly encouraging coming out of
last night, and it's that I think the most important
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thing that could happen that did is not the power play.
We focus a lot on the power play, and we
should because it's the thing that killed you last year.
The most important thing from last night was your second
line got gone. Brock Nelson gets on the board, Val
gets on the board, he adds another one with the
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empty netter at the end of the game. I think
if you want to find the most crucial area where
you could.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Win and.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Get an advantage and a leg up that most teams
don't have. It's that you had that back in twenty
twenty two with nos Kadri in the middle of a
very very good second line, and they were able to
for how good the top line is McKennon, Nachius, everybody
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else lecking in for as good as they are just
racking up the points over and over and over and
over again. If you can take them out and then
throw someone else on the field and go here, you
go deal with this too, because remember that's a big line.
Those are big dudes that play physically, that do the
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dirty work, that kind of encompass everything you want from
a mix of skill in that sort of grindiness. And
for them to get on the board like that last
night a couple of different times, I think is huge
because it's what you've been missing. Columbus is a good team.
They finished last year with eighty nine points. It's a
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good team. But getting that second line rolling is I
think a necessity if you want to be taken seriously
as a Cup contender this year. Here's the other thing,
you know, and I'm gonna keep doing this because I
said this during the offseason that this team gives me
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a lot of vibes of twenty twenty two. And it's
nice that I'm having a true because I don't think
I've had this feeling at the same time before. We've
known these teams are talented. But how talented can they be? Hmm.
I've compared them to twenty twenty two. I've compared the Nuggets.
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They remind me a lot of twenty twenty three. Actually
they remind me of twenty twenty three and then some
like a better version with more depth and more veteran leadership.
But the other thing that takes me back with the Avs,
what else do they have on this team that they
haven't had in a while that they had and possessed
in twenty twenty two goaltending that you trust. This is
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a backup. Scott Wedgwood is backup on this team. Scott
Wedgwood has been numbers wise, like the best goalie in
the league since February. It's the graphic that they had
up on Altitude last night, Motion Riker, we're talking about it.
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So Scott Wedgwood in five starts this year is given
up one goal. One goal four to Dallas, one goal
to Utah, one goal to La Pretty good. You back
to last year, Scott Wedgwood towards the end of the
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season was giving up on average for the last like
I don't know two months about one point seven goals
per game. You don't have a goalie you trust. You
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have two goalies that you trust. The only game that
you lost this season is the Dallas game, in which
you probably should have won had it not been for
how good Ottinger was. You know, And I still go
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back and here's what's incredible and why I want to
focus on much a lot today. Think about the conversations
that we were having the last two years, whether it
was heading into the postseason, whether it was starting the
regular season, and just the gigantic contrast that you found
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yourself in between your feelings now when a goaltender takes
the ice and when it was g or Giev over
the last few years. It's like you had to convince
yourself to be like, no, no, this is fine, it's fine.
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But we all know if you're trying to tell yourself that,
it's like you're not acknowledging a reality that's sticking out
in your head. Which is, this guy's not very good
and we could be down four to nothing by the
end of the first period. I mean, that's the truth.
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When you had you rgev here, there was this sinking
feeling that any game could get away with you at
any moment, and a lot of times it would happen
early in a game, which is brutal. Not only do
you put your team behind the eight ball, there is
a confidence that's just not there. Does this team look confident,
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especially in their goaltender if they make a mistake, Do
they trust that he's going to step up and make
a play behind him? One hundred percent?
Speaker 4 (08:38):
They do?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know, there's a there's a that confidence with this
team that I think is just going to continue to
grow and build. And a Texas says this, the other
thing they haven't had since twenty twenty two is the captain.
That's true. I mean I know that that. Ever, everybody
says the intangibles of Laniskog's game are what makes him
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so special, but he's also a pretty damn good hockey
player too. Still looks like he's he's working his way back.
I mean, we all kind of understand. He played a
few postseason games last year. But when you're out for
almost four years, three and a half whatever the number
was from his last regular season game, I think it's
going to take a minute for you to adjust a
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game speed. And I think that we need to perhaps
not acknowledge, but take your expectations for him down a
not your two, because I think if you expected Gabe
to come out here and be the exact same guy
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that he was back in twenty twenty two, it's just
it's probably not going to be the case. So he's
got one point through through five minutes so far this year.
I expect those numbers to jump a little bit as
the season goes on, but I still think you should
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you should temper them a little bit. The focus for me, though,
is you have goaltending again, and they've had an offseason
to kind of get to know each other, know each
other's tendencies, figure out where guys are going to be,
and all of that stuff matters, know as you kind
of move forward here. They played three of these first
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five on the road, taking care of business in those games.
You got the game tomorrow against Boston. It's gonna be
the only time that the Bruins come to town. But
it's Boston, Utah, Carolina and then Boston again for the
next week, And I got that feeling again, and it's
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a good one to have. There isn't a game when
the Avs are fully healthy that I'm expecting them not
to win. There will be tough games. There will be
games in which you match up evenly. I'm telling you,
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even with a match up against Dallas and I know
they got your number, I expect them to win because
I think the Avs are good. Texas says, do we
have any idea when Blackwood is coming back yet? I
know we asked Bednar about that. Do you remember, Nellie,
you have the top of your head what Bennar told us.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Yes, he said that Blackwood did not go on the
road trip, that he hung out at home, so they
were going to get back from Columbus and then reevaluate him.
I'm assuming that he wouldn't come in for the Boston game,
So maybe we're looking at next week.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
For a return.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, I don't know, Boston's good. You may as well
don't shake things up.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Well, I don't know if the way that if I
remember right, the tone in which he said it was
he's getting close, But not there yet sort of thing,
So take that forever is maybe that's another week, maybe
it's two weeks, maybe it's two days. I have no idea,
but it feels like it's it's close to being around
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the corner. But even still, while you wait for him
to get healthy, it's like you don't feel the need
to rush anything because Wood's got you. It's the same
as the old uh Frankie and Darcy thing. Darcy gets
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a stick to the eyeball and you're like, good grief.
Of course that had to happen in the postseason, and
then Frankie steps in and plays well, does nothing but
win in the meantime, and it does feel like you've
got a little bit of that como going right now.
Three to zero, three, five, four nine two five, Shop
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Mas de text Slam, one price, one person, one hour.
I have a lot of thoughts about this Giants game
coming up, because I think there's a lot of variables
that can make this game weird. But I have a hope.
It's not an expectation, it's a hope of one thing
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that we can get in the middle of this UH.
I think it would calm a lot of different fears
and the Giants game is not one that, at least
at the beginning of the season you head on your
schedule as a this one could be tough. Now, I
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was trying to tell you that coming back from London
with no rest is probably gonna be a little bit
sneaky of a game, no matter who's playing. But we'll
get to that in just a second. By the way,
thank you, Nelly. You just sent me this from Jesse
Montano yesterday that Mackenzie Blackwood is in Loveland with the
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Eagles and he's doing a conditioning stint, so he is
close close to coming back. But if you missed it,
you can find the answers on the podcast because we
talked to Jared Bednar two days ago. iTunes, Spotify, mos
Lombardy and Keynes where you can find that to the Broncos.
And also last night, you guys remember how pissed Mike
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Tomlin was that Joe Flacco was traded in the vision
and we played it and I asked the question, do
you think he's nervous that Flacco's the coach or the
quarterback for them now? And Moser said he ain't nervous
about Flacco, is he? Well, maybe Mike Tomlin was onto
something gets all that next. So last night Thursday Night Football.
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We'll get to the Giants and Broncos in a second.
By the way, they're discussing this on Get Up on ESPN,
and Harry Douglass and Bart Scott have the Broncos, but
Peter Schrager and Joe Fortenbaugh have both taking the Giants.
It's a fifty to fifty split. U We'll get there
in a second. But the game last night between Cincy
and Pittsburgh, in which was named the Icy Hot Poll,
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which is first of all, incredible. I'll tell you what
else is incredible. Some of the throws that Aaron Rodgers
can still make it fifty seven years old. I mean
it's crazy. I mean he had obviously the last throw
to Friar Muth to take the lead and what looked
like probably win them the game at the time. But
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he had a couple where he's just dropping it in
the bucket in between three guys who were sitting down
in zones, just out the out, just past the outreached
hands of multiple guys.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He is.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
So fun to watch still and I'm kind of blown away,
and you guys know, my feelings on Aaron Rodgers. Not
a huge fan, but I will never deny somebody's insane talent,
and he is insanely talented. Now to the other side,
did Joe Flacco's credit Joe Flacco joined the team midweek
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last week? Didn't look great and it's hard. Look, man,
you join a team, especially at that position, not knowing
the offense in the middle of the week, good luck
trying to make that work. And then it's almost as
if you watch Flacco in his second game with Cincinnati
and he's like, oh, I can just throw it to
Jamar Chase. No many targets Jamar Chase had last night?
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Don't look, don't cheat everybody, Just in your head, how
many targets did Jamar Chase have in the win over
Pittsburgh last night? Now that you do, you care to
take a guess one million, twenty three twenty three targets.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
And by the way, I just went it on record
that I've been playing the long game this whole season
because I took Jamar Chase with the number one over
our overall pick smart in our Altitude Fantasy Football drammart
and it has done absolutely nothing for me until now.
So I've been I've been playing the long con all
you're all welcome. I've just been waiting for his day.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Well, Jamar is he's had like a couple of games
that were really good. But when you have somebody like
Jake Browning throwing in the football, it's gonna make it
super difficult. But Joe Flacco dropped back. He goes, oh,
I understand the offense. Now that's not that hard. I
just dropped back and I throw it to number one,
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and if number one is in triple coverage, then I
throw it to number five and then we win. I mean,
that's that's really how the entire offense went. Joe Flako
had forty seven passing attempts, twenty three to Chase, ten
to T Higgins, and then it was four dump offs
to Chase brown It was fourth rows to know a
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fan and four to always forget how to say this
guy's name, iyashovas ayashovas whatever, it's Higgins and it's Jamar Chase.
But if you guys remember when that trade went down,
there was an Indivision trade. So indivision trades are rare.
I think that's kind of silly, the Indivision stuff first
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of all, but put that to the side for a
second in division trade from Cleveland to Sincy. So that's
rare to start with, and the fact that it was
a starting quarterback that got traded is even more rare.
Here was Mike Tomlin middle of the week talking about
Brown's GM Andrew Berry that okayed the trade.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.
Andrew Berry must be a lot smarter than me or us,
because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a
quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening
day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.
But that's just my personal feelings.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
When I asked the question, did Mike Tomlin say that
out of nervousness? Why would he be nervous? Well, Steelers
had a pretty good lead on the AFC North. The
only team I think they're truly concerned about is Cincinnati.
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That if they can just hang on for dear life
with a guy like Flacco and keep their head above water.
Joe Burrow is expected to return at some point towards
the end of the season, and then maybe they can
rattle off a few wins and make a run for it. Well,
maybe those fears are real and they're grounded in reality.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Once Twitter did what Twitter does best and dug up
a clip from Tomlin. I think about a month ago
when he was talking about the Colts and last year
with Joe Flacco, and when they were playing the Colts,
he told everybody, keep Anthony Richardson on his feet, don't
hurt him because we could beat him. We don't want
Flacco to come in the game.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
No, We obviously as respect for Flacca And now, look,
he's played against Flaco for a good portion of his life.
I mean, Flaco was in Baltimore forever, and Baltimore was
still I mean, they were just as good with Flacco
as they were with Lamar. Not to say Lamar isn't
a better quarterback. He is, but they were still a
really competitive team. Now do I think Flacco's skills are
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still how do you want to put this? Are they
still respectable?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Are they in the great category now?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
No?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
But a couple of really good wide receivers will help
you look better. Yo Shivash, thank you.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yo.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Shavash is that guy's name, the wide receiver from Cincinnati
that every time you look at it, you're like so
the I in the O is a yo. Texas says
Joe Flaco never played like that. Here remind you, Jamar,
Chase and t Higgins are things. They're very, very shiny
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toys that you get to play with. Now, since he
gets the win last night, uh, I mean, you know,
it was the exact thing that you thought might happen.
They get the ball back with two twenty one left
and they're down one, and here's what it looks like.
Flaco to Chase, Flaco to Chase, Chase Brown up the middle,
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Flacco to Higgins, by the way, incredibly smart play in
unselfish play from Higgins at the end of that game
to catch that deep ball, had to walk in for
a touchdown and instead slid down around though what was
it like the five eight yard line whatever to burn
all the clock down to the end and hit the
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game winning field goal. Anyway, a really good Thursday night game.
Now to the Broncos. There's one thing you want to say,
you know, Drake green Law has come off ir Maybe
he gets the start or something this weekend. Maybe not.
I have no idea. This is all about the offense.
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I mean, here's the good news, and there's a lot
of good news for the Broncos so far this year.
Your defense is good enough that it's making up for
the lack of offense that you have, Number one, number two.
Your team is good enough that you can be disappointed
with a win. That's always a good place to be
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that you win a football game. Yeah, but it didn't
look good enough. Well, that's a good sign shows the
healthy state of where your franchise is at at the moment.
But the bad news is you don't know if the
offense is going to play well in any given week.
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And I've been hearing a lot of this. You know,
Colin Cowherd had like a four minute die tribe yesterday,
and this is representative of how a lot of people
in town feel. I don't think anybody outside of Denver
fields this way. And I always get nervous on stuff
like that when the town is split on something, and
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then you look at what everybody nationally except for Cowherd
is saying about a guy in particular, and you're like,
they don't seem to be having the same sort of
like split into difisive discussion that we are. I think
nationally people would tell you they don't think bo Nicks
is very good. Now they could be wrong. They could
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be but I think if you're being objective about things,
bow Knicks has not played well this year, and you
could toss out to me that he's a slow starter,
and that's fine. Well, it needs to start because we're
in week seven. Slow starter, I can understand for like, hey,
the first three four weeks of the season starts off slow,
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gets it together, and then they go in hyperdrive. Cool. Well,
we're past the third of the way through the season
and we're almost to the halfway point, and it's fine.
I suppose to be a slow starter when you have
the league's best defense, but there's gonna be a time
(24:58):
where you don't, and that slow start stuff is gonna
bite you in the butt. You know who knows that
better than anybody. The team we just talked about, Cincinnati
is always in scramble mode at the end of the year,
trying to figure out how many wins consecutively they need
to get to put themselves back in a playoff spot
because they start the year one and four. I don't
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want to become that, so I would prefer he's not
a slow starter, But if he is, we need to
start seeing the start now, no more slow, just start now.
I sent you a DM last night, Nellie with the
cowhard stuff. Can you just play this off your computer
(25:39):
and then we can sort of start and stop. And
I'm not gonna play this whole thing, but i want
you to hear a little bit of this, and again
it I'm being honest. I mean, we live in a
very very odd time politically right now, where it's like
you do kind of have to sift through And this
isn't a specific thing for either side of the aisle.
(26:01):
Both of them do it, but you feel like you
need to sift through somebody's propaganda for a few minutes,
you know what I'm talking about, Like you'll see, especially
these ones like the ticktokers or the people on YouTube
again on both sides of the aisle, where you're like, man,
(26:23):
your talking points sound really familiar to another guy that
I just heard talk about this, Like you're saying the
exact same thing I'm telling you right now. Colin Cowherd
is borderline I think giving me propaganda like he's getting
text from Sean Payton, like say this on your show tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
But listen, listen, I said, when I thought Caleb Williams
was gonna be really, really good, and Justin Fields probably
never will be. When I first moved to Chicago, people
would say, oh, Justin Fields, well, that ship has sailed
three teams not working. Caleb Williams, as apparent, I think,
to some degree, has turned the corner. He's not there yet.
He still misses on accuracy. But young quarterbacks are tough
(27:01):
to judge. Sometimes they shock you how good they are
right out of the gate Jaden Daniels, and then some
shock you how good they get quickly in you know,
year two, Drake May. Some are a work in progress,
Caleb Williams, Michael Pennix, and some say bow Nicks. I
don't think bow Nicks is a work in progress. I
think he's a franchise quarterback that I wish would run more.
(27:22):
He did last year, so he stopped doing it this year.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
That's true. I think that bo Nix's lack of wanting
to run the ball. And I don't know if this
is a mentality thing of I need to get better
from the pocket, so I'm going to stay in the pocket.
I would just remind him, damn the perception of things.
(27:45):
Who cares if you do something well? Then use it.
And the funny thing about his legs is he is
really good in that category, like uniquely gifted as a runner.
In the same sort of echelon, maybe a step below.
You know, at the top of it, you have your
(28:07):
Lamar's and your Jaden Daniels. I would put him in
whatever that tier is below it. You're Josh Allen. You're uh,
who would be another guy that goes in there.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Josh Allen.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
You're Josh Allen tier of just a running quarterback, You're
Jalen Hurts type. Like I think that bo Nix is
in there and he does need to use that more so.
To Coward's credit, I agree, but continue.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
He's highly effective and I think he should run more.
But I saw a story today about bo Nicks. How
to make bo Nicks better? Read the headline. Well, he's
twenty three NFL starts in His completion percentage is sixty
six percent, good enough to get you to a Super Bowl.
Forty three total touchdowns, seventeen turnovers, pretty good beginning of
(28:57):
year two. Passer ratings low nine ninety two. I'd rather
have it at ninety seven ninety eight, but he's fourteen
and nine in a division with Spags, Jesse Minterter and
now Pete Carroll.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Okay, pause again again. I think that those are totally
fair points to make. Talking about his record, I would
argue to you that when somebody with nicks comes out
barking a whole bunch of stats at me, because I
know they look good on paper they actually they really do,
(29:29):
it doesn't translate to what your eyes are telling you, though.
And this isn't to say that he's playing bad. I
would say he's playing not up the standard of what
you'd want. And he said twenty three starts in that's
not a ton on the resume. I don't care how many.
If he had one hundred starts in college, wouldn't matter
to me. The NFL is different. But you know, I
(29:53):
say this all the time that with young quarterbacks there
is no need to be perfect. There is no need.
No what he is asking you to go out there
and be thirty five of forty three hundred and fifty
yards and four touchdowns. It's not the game you need.
What you do need is you need the moments in
the game that make you go yep. That's why I
think that guy's good. I'll tell you who's doing that
(30:17):
right now in a big way. Is Drake May. Is
Drake May perfect every week? No? But does Drake May
make like three or four plays every single week where
you go, WHOA, Okay, that's what you build on. So
this this isn't about some sort of bow Knicks disbelief
(30:38):
or anything like that. What it is about is I
need to see some evidence here. You need to put
together a consistent game. Again. The offense has been bad
more than it's been good this year. You want to
call it slow starts, fine, go ahead, but you gotta
(31:04):
start about this week against a Giants team that's probably
better than we thought, but still not great. You know
what the defense is going to do against the rookie quarterback.
And for all this fun stuff we're having with Skataboo,
and then we'll get to Cam later. I suppose Tam
(31:27):
Scattaboy is a really fun story, and I think that's
kind of where it ends. Decent enough back, fun to
watch throws caution to the wind. You love all that grit,
grimy sort of all that stuff that he brings to
the table, and yet I don't think anybody's gonna confuse
(31:51):
him with saquon your defense is gonna handle business. I
want to see the offense put together a consistent game
in which the offense moves the chains with regularity capitalizes
in the red zone. When the play is there, you
make the play, like all that stuff. So three zero, three, five,
(32:16):
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And a lot more to talk about with the Broncos
as we move along, But coming up next, we're gonna
make Nelly sing back after this, We'll make Nelly sing
(32:37):
here shortly, it's a bud Light football front. It's a
bud Light Football Friday. That's what I meant to say.
I'm really intriguing college football matchups this weekend too. But
did you guys see yesterday amid all of the Penn
State talk, Hey, we fired James Franklin. Who's gonna be
(33:01):
on the board for us? Well, it could be our
our guy who is coaching currently in the Big Ten,
but Penn States is alma mater in Matt Ruhle. Or
we could get the guy who says I win Google me.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's pretty simple, I win google me.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Indiana saw that and goes, yeah, we're gonna have to
make the Godfather offer, aren't we. That's exactly what they did.
They go out to Kurt Signetti and they give him
a metric bleep ton of money. So Indiana and Kurtzignetti,
they agreed to a new eight year, eleven point six
(33:54):
million dollar contract per year. By the way, that goes
through twenty thirty three. The buyout if somebody else wanted
to poach him is ninety three million dollars. That is
(34:16):
what Signetti would get in his new deal if he
was fired without cause. So they looked at him and said,
you're going to coach here until you die. And it
was just a middle finger to anybody like Penn State
who thought they were going to be able to poach him.
(34:37):
I've always thought, if you're a guy like that's in
Signetti's position, I know, the appeal of having a big
time college football gig and the money that comes with
it and the resources that come with it is all
something that is very intriguing. I also think it's a
(34:59):
lot more comfortable life if you're out of school. That's
like a wrung down from that because if you have
success there and I would consider see you one of
these places, and I think you're kind of seeing that
with Dion so far. If you have even a little
bit of success at a place like that, you will
be adored and the pressure for guys calling for your
job is not going to be as intense you think
(35:23):
about Kaylin de boor Now, Washington's a big time football program,
don't get me wrong, but you go over to Alabama,
you lose to Vandy the first time, and guys want
to run you out of town already. If Indiana has
another eleven in one season and makes the playoff and
then the following year they go three and nine, he's
(35:46):
not getting fired. They're like, whatever, we got to give
him more time. It's one of the beauties of being
in a place like that. So I actually think he
made the wise decision of not only getting the bag,
but staying in a place where the expectations are lower.
I think is smart. Now, what does Penn State do?
(36:07):
Because this never feels good when you're a school like
that and you fired a coach that has at least
a decent resume with the promise that you're gonna find
somebody better. This is not a rebuilding job at Penn State.
This is taking what's left behind and capitalizing on it.
You lost a big time head coach that you were
(36:30):
probably targeting, So where do you go from here? So
they're faced with those kinds of questions. Speaking of money,
By the way, this is one of the funniest headlines
I think I've ever read, so scooball in Detroit. They're Ace,
(36:54):
who has just been mowing guys down the last couple
of years in Detroit. He's due for a contract. Detroit's
freaking out because they're like, I don't if somebody pulls
the Kurt Signetti and makes him the Godfather offer, can
we afford to do that? This is from John Hayman.
I'm gonna read this out loud. Tell me if you laughed.
(37:18):
The Tigers in school ball reportedly are over two hundred
and fifty million dollars apart in negotiations on an extension.
We hear this all the time. And let's go back
to last year with the Avs and Miko. So reportedly
(37:40):
the Avs gave him someone in the ballpark twelve. Let's
just call it eleven to be charitable to Miko they
offered him eleven million dollars a year. Miko wanted fourteen reportedly,
so that's three million apart per year over the life
of an eight year contract would be twenty four million dollars.
(38:01):
And Nellie, we were all kind of sitting there like, man,
twenty four million dollars apart is a big number. Imagine
if I told you the Avalanche and Miko Rinton and
were two hundred and fifty million dollars apart on the contract.
You aren't even negotiating at that point. That is just
(38:21):
you were you were. You were saluting each other on
the way out the door. If I go into if
my contract's up, and I walk into our PD's office
or GM's office, they say, contracts up, let's start talking turkey,
and they go, cool, I got a number of my head.
You got a number. I'm like, I got a number,
(38:42):
and they go, I'll tell you what, here's our number.
And I go, just gonna be honest with you. You're
about two hundred and fifty million dollars apart from what
I was thinking. Where do you go from there? There
was no meeting in the middle of two hundred and
fifty million dollars apart. I was going to give you
RB's coupons. Oh well, I wanted eighteen Lamborghinis. What if
(39:09):
we do Afford Pinto and I put the RB's coupons
in the glovebox like there's nowhere you can negotiate from there.
It's done, which means congratulations, scooball. Welcome to the Yankees
or the Dodgers or somebody, because it ain't going to
be Detroit. But I say this to tell you, if
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that happens to the Rockies, it would be a good
thing because you would have somebody that's worth two hundred
and fifty million dollars or more than that. That's what
you're a part on negotiations right now, first of all.
Second of all, it shows that teams can be competitive
despite having stuff like that going on, and that should
(39:57):
be the goal of the Rockies, which we've discussed and
we'll continue to discuss sure this offseason is they figure
out their new front office. Now again, speaking of money,
lay it down is gonna come your way at nine
to twenty. But we do this at the end of
the appetizer every Friday. Nelly, come on, everybody, do it
(40:20):
with us. Betsy, Betie Benny, bet turn it up, Nelly,
turn it up, Hey Ladder, I want volume on this.
Speaker 7 (40:37):
Come on, everybody, Betty Betsy Ready, Betty, Betty, Betsy, Betty
Letsy and his bet.
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I mean, is it not the greatest song you've ever
heard in your life? So here's what happens every Friday.
At the end of the appetizer, Nelly sings this song,
and I give you two games with no research. I
give you a lock, and I give you an underdog
of the week. My lock already kind of feels like
an underdog. Don't care. Vandy, who's coming off a loss
(41:13):
to Alabama. It was a closer loss than the final
score indicated. It was thirty to fourteen against Bama, but
they had two red zone turnovers that led to that
score looking a lot more lopsided than the game was.
They play against LSU. Both teams are five and one.
LSU can't score, Vandy can. The spread is actually Vandy
(41:35):
favored by two and a half at home, and I
love that number. I think Diego Pavia bounces back in
a big way. Nus Meyer has been turning the ball
over quite a bit this year. I'm giving Vandy the
lock of the week now for the underdog. This one's
gonna sound unconventional because Arizona has lost four straight and
(41:59):
they're playing against the Packers. But here's what's happened in
the four losses for Arizona. They've been competitive, they've been
right in these games, and they've blown it late. They've
lost by one to the Niners, three to the Seahawks,
one to the Titans, and four to the Colts, and
they've had guys dropping balls in the way of the
end zone and kicking balls into the in zone for
(42:20):
other teams to recover the spread six and a half.
I think them as the dog against the Packers in
Arizona are going to cover the six and a half.
They'll keep it within a touchdown because they have every
game that they've lost this year. So there you go,
Bridy and his bets. Noll, you sound it beautiful this morning?
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