October 22, 2025 • 41 mins
0:00 - Gabe Landeskog scored an awesome goal yesterday...and it was taken off the board by a bogus offsides call. My time machine worked! It's 2019 again! That wasn't the sole reason the Avs lost to Utah, but it's one of those huge momentum swings that changes the trajectory of a game.
14:00 - After the Broncos vs Giants game, Sean Payton took a vague shot at Russ Wilson. Or did he? Did Russ catch a stray unintentionally? Either way, Russ responded on Twitter. He...actually responded to an insult! Good for you, Russ. Way to stand up for yourself.
30:00 - Who's on the upswing? Who's trending in the wrong direction? Let's get to another edition of NFL STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN!
14:00 - After the Broncos vs Giants game, Sean Payton took a vague shot at Russ Wilson. Or did he? Did Russ catch a stray unintentionally? Either way, Russ responded on Twitter. He...actually responded to an insult! Good for you, Russ. Way to stand up for yourself.
30:00 - Who's on the upswing? Who's trending in the wrong direction? Let's get to another edition of NFL STOCK UP - STOCK DOWN!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Check out Brett weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
Radio ninety two to five and on the Altitude Sports
Radio app.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Knocked down by Natus in front of his own bench,
coolly takes it away from him. Now, Sergachev, So is
it far sides? Toole them by Val? The Choshkin as
almost offside there? Handed off for LANDI Scott.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It's gones, oh, captain, my captain strikes through a screen
for his first regular season goal since two thousand and
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Year's a goal.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
After Coach's challenge Radio Withview it was determined.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Offside.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
No, I mean I knew it, but it's it's so ridiculous.
It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I expect nothing and I'm still it down.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So the FS losing ot yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But that call a very very confusing one, as we
were told a million different things from Hey, that looks
like it's offside because two guys are on the ice
at the same time. The guy shoveled the puck into
the zone himself. Does that negate the off side? I
think it does. Here's the call. Nope, it doesn't. Is
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some other reason. I don't understand it. I hate that rule.
I hate it. Like, here's what I don't get about,
and we'll get to the full game in a second,
but that call just really bothered me. And I'm the
first to tell you I'm not the biggest hockey expert
you're gonna come across. But somebody tell me this, it's
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offside because the guys were not involved in the play
going to the bench. So there's a skate of somebody
not involved in the play on the ice and that's
why it's offside. Riddle me this, then, Nelly, why isn't
it too many men on the ice? If we're counting
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those skates as players, then why isn't it too many
men on the ice? And the answer is because you
give guys grace when they're there. Think about this, like
when a quarterback is giving himself up and you can't
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hit them, you don't treat them as a normal player.
These guys gave themselves up, not involved in.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The play anymore. And I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Why that wouldn't be too many men on the ice,
But it does count for an offside. And then on
tip of that, the guy shoveling the puck in himself.
I thought that was case closed. That if if the
the opposing team knocks the puck into their own zone,
that negates any sort of offside.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well that is what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So I don't I don't get it now, is it
I always put this qualifier on there so people don't
get too crazy?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Is it the reason that you lost?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
If there's any good that came out of losing that
way in overtime that it was quick because I was sleepy. Uh,
it was basically I went to take a take a tinkle.
By the time I came back, Sharks had the puck
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on their stick and it was just what ten seconds
it felt like into that overtime? Yeah, yeah, thirty start
the period, be done with the period over, Brett.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Are you excited for how season Native Game of Thrones
is gonna wrap up? I know the so far it
hasn't been good, but I'm really hoping that they end
the show strong. I'm also hoping I can get to
this theater and see Avengers End Game because that's in
theaters right now.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I hear that's a pretty cool movie. Oh wait, is
it twenty nineteen again?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Because this is exactly what happened to the Avs back
when the Sharks were good, right and they played them
in twenty nineteen. I mean, I guess my time machine worked.
Can you believe that next year is gonna be twenty twenty?
That doesn't even sound like a real year. That's gotta
be a that's gotta be a fun time. I'm excited
for twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I mean, when when the years line up like that,
when there's the same thing over and over again, back
to back, you know a good year's coming.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You just know it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah again, I thought the Avs played in okay game,
I had a future many tur and overs in the defensives,
and they weren't. They weren't as sharp on the defensive
side as they been for most of this season. You know,
put Weggie in some some tough spots. So he has
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the what now he has five games in which he's
given up one goal and the other two he's given
up four that have both been sent into overtime.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Boy, isn't it crazy how this this song old Town
Road is blowing up the charts right now?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Who's this little not sex kid? Good for him?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It said twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
That was yeah, And.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Now I'm just going down the rabbit hole of what
was popular the last time this happened to the Avs
six years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well at that time, Ian Cole, who was a Utah
Mammoth player, now I believe was he was on the
ABS in twenty nineteen, wasn't he?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes? He was?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
And you were, Greg, you weren't even Brett yet.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Well let me think you yeah, God, I was.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I was here for that, you were because this was
that was also my first season producing games and for
this station. So that was when the Avs and the
Nuggets both made the playoffs at the same time for
the first time in ages, which is crazy to think now, yeah,
but we just take that for granted. But back then,
I remember it was the the Nuggets against the Spurs
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and then the Avs. Who do they face in that
first round? Was it the Blues?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And then the Sharks in the second round?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Hang on a second, because that wasn't that the wild
year where there was like twenty three home games between
the Avs and the Nuggets in like twenty seven days
or something like that.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Because both those series went seven games, and so it
was just I don't know if it was always home games,
but it was every other night. It was just as
Nuggets as Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It was Arizona.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Was the first round, Arizona, That's so it was.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
This wait a minute, no, no, no, no, hang on, hang on no,
I was looking at the bubble.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That was a year afterwards. It was Calgary in the
first round.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
That's right, that was Calgary.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
That was when they beat the Flames in Calee mccarr, Yes,
he went from college.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Straight to the ice for the Abs.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's right, yep.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
No, twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
I think they played the Coyotes in the bubble, and
Darcy Kemper was the only reason the Coyotes kept it interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I was gonna say, That's what looked so weird to
me is that it says Stanley Cup qualifier in and
I forgot there were games that had to be played
before the postseason started because of bubble.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
COVID stuffy, What a stupid time we lived in.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
But actually that's that is a good segue.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Though.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
It's crazy that even though the Utah Mammoth have a
completely different name, right, that they were the Arizona Coyotes
and now they've moved, but it's a lot of the
same roster. Even with a new name and a new city.
They're still giving the Avalanche fits. There's still that little
mosquito like you remember when when when the Coyotes played
in that stupid small arena that held like four people,
and the Avs just something always went screwy when they
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played are he had.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
To take a bus to get to your locker room
every time that you the period ended.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Yeah, always giving him fits. And now that they're the Mammoth,
it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, and it's still like you're clearly a better hockey
team than they are. They have good players, don't get
me wrong, They're they're decent. I thought Vamialka made a
few just massive saves to keep a minute. McKinnon had
that one sequence. Was that in the second or maybe
it was the first. Let me go back here for
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a second.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, it was towards the end of the first period.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
McKennon had a breakaway, Vamilica makes the save, McKenny gets
the rebound, looks like he can like side door it,
and Vamilica makes another one. He did that a few
times to McKennon, just stepping up in a huge spot
and making a play. Here's again going back to that
call of the no goal. What the ref said was crazy.
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So here's the rule. The rule is, if you what
word do they use propel the puck into your own zone,
that negates any off side. They go to replay review,
they're looking at it for a long time, and then
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they said offside is going to stand, and they said
something along the lines of because of the action that
the Avalanche player caused, it caused the off sides And
I would love to know what the hell that means.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Vala Chushkin was playing.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Is that the actions you're talking about by actively playing
the sport he's paid to play in. And I don't
want to again, I don't want to overharp on this
because I don't think it's the reason why you lost.
But it was like a huge momentum changer in the game,
and it's just a rule I don't understand. You know, again,
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it's are we treating the players going to the bench
as active players on the ice or not? Because if
you are, teams have too many men on the ice
every time somebody makes a change, but you don't call
that because they aren't involved in the play, and you
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got the puck on one side of the ice, the
bench is on the other. I think the same sort
of rules should apply, But it would be like, you know,
some sports have the how about this, Nelly, it's a
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hail Mary, and we all know that hail Mary's. Past
interference does not exist on Hail Mary. It's just you
can do whatever you want. It's an absolute free for all.
But then they would get very TICKI tack on a
hail Mary attempt where it's like there's guys mugging each
other in the end zone, but then you have like
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an illegal contact call, Like no, we all kind of
understand there's no rules. Now we've all decided as a
country that there's no rules in hail Mary's. Anybody can
do what they want. It's a free for all. It's
a game of five hundred. You can't get really specific with.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Other rules if that's happening.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And I had a lot of these tweets come out
at me last night about, uh, it sounds like the
broadcast is biased. I will say it was. There was
a lot more excitement for Utah for whatever reason that
it did feel that way. Now I've said this before.
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I'm not a boucher gross guy to start with, I don't.
I don't think he's he does a good job, and
that I don't do that very often, So I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It, Yeah, I don't. I don't know what else to
say it, Nelly.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm trying to be nice because I know how difficult
that job is, and that's why I don't get on
play by play guys very often.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I just don't. I don't like that style in particular.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But anyway, if there was something really I think good
that happened you had, I mean that that goal that
was scored by Marty Nachos was unreal. Just to get
the game back evened up and get you in a
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position where you can take a point out of it,
I mean to find that angle, that perfect angle that
whizzes by the ear hole of Themelka who's been great
all night, to get it in that moment, right before
you're about to pull your goalie and play the old
scramble drill at the end of the game of Pray
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to God, nobody throws it in the center of the ice.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's so big time to be able to still get
a point out of that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So credit to Marty Nachos, and we'll get more into
this as we go along today three oh three, five
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nine one price, one person, one hour.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So uh, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We're gonna push NFL stockup stock down to the end
of the hour because there's something else. There's two things
Broncos wise that I really need to talk about, and
I do not want to wait, so we'll get to
that next. We'll get to the NFL stock up stock
down in twenty minutes. Jared Bednar is going to join
us at eight forty five this morning, talk about that
game last night.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And what to expect moving forward.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm especially curious how he's going to handle the goaltending.
Maybe it makes it a little easier to get Blackwood
on the ice now with a four goal game allowed
from Weggie. But Weggie's been playing great. So we'll see
at a forty five with Jared Bednar. I never thought
(14:33):
i'd see it, and I've been begging for this. I
think a lot of people have.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
There are some people that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Are just too nice and they allow people to walk
all over them without checking anybody. And I think that
kindness and turning the other cheek and that kind of
stuff is all admirable qualities that we should all strive
to have, because it's better than the alternative that you're
somebody who flies off the handle of the smallest things
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every two seconds. Having sort of a cool, calm demeanor
that you don't allow other people to ruffle your feathers
is generally the right approach to life.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm so mad now, but there has.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
To be some sort of point where you say, enough's enough.
You can't do this anymore. You're gonna push.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Me on talk.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And it feels like we finally reached that point with
Russell Wilson after taking years of abuse, a lot of it,
by the way, misguided and unfair.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You go all the way back to his days in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The fact that there's a huge number of players on
that team that is unwilling to give him credit for
any of the success.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That if you ask Richard Sherman why.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
They won the Super Bowl, they'd be like, because the
secondary was really good. Yeah, that and Marshawn Lynch and
Russell Wilson was one of the best quarterbacks in the
league that too.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Consistently, and so you, stemming all the.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Way back from those days to what happened when he
got here in Denver, where yes, was not successful, It
did not work, It crashed and burned. But the amount
of his peers taking joy in his demise was startling
in a way that I've never quite seen in sports.
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That it just felt like it was open season for
players within the league to make fun of that guy publicly,
kickers like Justin Tucker making fun of.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
A guy like that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And then it all kind of comes to this boiling
point of Russell Wilson's standing on the sideline and just
taking an absolute tongue lashing from Sean Payton with no response.
And I couldn't help but feel bad. It's somebody, it's
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somebody abusing a puppy, and you know the puppy can't
do anything back. But I was wondered, why did Russell
still just want his professional persona to be the thing
that shines through the most. You know, it's hard enough
to call out your head coach, especially one like Sean Payton,
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but if you remember, Sean Payton did the thing again
where he said something that you probably just shouldn't say.
And I don't see any purpose to this other than
just being an ass being honest, I'm being honest. The
only reason why Sean Payton would say this and volunteer
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this to the public when he doesn't tell us anything. Remember,
we don't do a lot of Sean Payton Addy, or
at least I don't, because I don't think that he
says anything interesting for the most part, Like Hey, what
do you think dra Greenlaw brings to the table and
what does he tell you? I'm not talking about injured players,
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And the whole thing was, well, I was under the
impression that he wasn't injured anymore.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
These are the hypotheticals, right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I love him like there's no hypothetical of do you
like the player coming back on the field for you?
He doesn't tell you anything, but God, is he willing
to call somebody out. We saw that immediately with Nathaniel Hackett,
and then after the Giants game last week, Sean Payton
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steps up to the micone because they make the quarterback
change Jackson Dart from Russell Wilson, and it's clear and
obvious to everybody that Russell Wilson is not as good.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
As this rookie quarterback is. It's clear and he says this.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I have a ton of respect for that organization. I
spent four in my early years there coordinating Super Bowl
first game in this stadium before nine to eleven close
with the Marrit Tish family, and you know they found
a little spark with that quarterback. I was talking to
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John Mayer not too long ago, and I said, we
were hoping that that change would have happened long long
after our game.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What's the point of Make no mistake, Nelly, that was
not about paying a compliment to Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
What that was.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It was a bleep you to Russell Wilson. In the
amount of times Russell Wilson's had a middle finger like
double barreled right between his eyeballs, it borders on like weird,
like you could even throw into the mix. And I
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don't think this one was intentional at all, but it
was still incredibly embarrassing. A head coach ran into the
medical tent after a player had a feared concussion to
yell at him to get back out on the field
because Russell Wilson made him so upset by one play
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that Make no mistake. I have my own thoughts towards
Russell Wilson that I think that obviously his game has declined,
but put his game on the back burner for a
second and just talk about the guy. Do I think
that there is some phoniness to his personality, that it's
very much like a politician. Yeah, I do. But still
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never seen somebody get this many shots, this many arrows
thrown his direction by people within his realm. This isn't
some guy with a YouTube channel taking.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Shots.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Own little internet shows are driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's not that it's not some dude, some talking head
on ESPN. This is players and coaches in the NFL
doing this.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
By the way, do you want to hear what Sean
Payton was asked at the start of that answer?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah, I should say so.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
He did a Sean Payton special where he was asked
something and then he spoke for about two minutes and
then got to the cut we played.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
So there was a lot of evolution, But here's how
it started, Sewan.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Before the year you talked about you know all these
different factors. You know you've seen winning teams, have you know,
to be able to say comments like super Bowl et cetera,
et ceterass.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I meaning this is back and I want to make
sure we're on the same page.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
This and TheInk.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
He starts monologuing it was about Super Bowl expectations.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And it's just like I'll take it and then I'll
say what I think is I winning?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
And there's well yeah, and again I have a ton
of respect for that organization.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And I got exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So anyway, I say all this to say, Russell Wilson
actually responded. He said class lists but not surprised. Didn't
realize you're still bounty hunting fifteen plus year years later
through the media hashtag let's ride.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Considering I don't think Russell Wilson taps into the bleep
talk stuff. How would I grade his response like a
three out of ten. But the fact that he responded
was enough for me. And people say, that's not a
jab at Russ. That's giving props to Dart. Russ is
a tool. It was not giving props to Dart. It
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was masked by giving props to Dart. That's what it was.
I mean, again, there's a track record here. Okay, Sean
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Payton does this. He calls people out occasionally. Just what
I don't understand is what the hell was the nature
of that relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And again, there is a.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Sort of trash talking nature of Sean Payton that I
think there has to be a lot of success to
back up talking the way that he does, and he's
got a track record of it, and the team is
five and two. I don't want to discount that, but
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we all kind of see the flaws in your own
or his own way of thinking.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Would I talk with Russell abouts none your business?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, I guess because none of that could be fit
for air unless he leaves the team, and then you
can say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I just again, I.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Think it's a bad look. I just think it's a
bad look and it's unnecessary. Now you kind of get
your own issues here. You've got a quarterback right now
that is playing well for like eight minutes a game,
and somehow that's good enough to win the entire thing.
But AnyWho, I mean, I'm just looking at the text
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line and here's the translation I'm getting from a lot
of people. I think Russell Wilson is a tool. Okay,
it doesn't mean what Sean Payton did is allowed that.
It doesn't mean that everybody can take a shot at him.
And I'm glad that he stuck up for himself.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
By the way, the Drake Greenlaws suspension has been upheld,
so he is going to miss this game. I wish
I really want to know what was said. Somebody needs
to go pabulatory on this thing and just tell me
what he said to the ref.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I want to know what the threat was.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Also, the visual of throwing a penalty flag after the
game got done is hysterical. That flag represents nothing anymore.
You can't punish me with a penalty flag. Now the
suspension different story, But that suspension being upheld. I mean
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I I'm trying to think, did you threaten to kill him,
to kill his family? What is it that you said?
Because again part of this, Nelly I mentioned this yesterday.
If Drake Greenlaw wasn't Drake Greenlaw and he was five ten,
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one hundred and seventy pounds and said the exact same thing,
does it feel as threatening or is it because just
maybe maybe Drake Greenlaw is one of the most physically
imposing people I've ever seen on a football field.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Does I still think that's part of it here?
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Saying if Will Lutz ran up to him and said, hey, buddy,
keep your hands off of my teammate.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Pa.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't think that Will Lutz is being suspended for
a game.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
If you said I think there's something, I strongly disagree
with you, mister no.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I think there's something about a giant bicep running up
to you in the middle of your face and.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Going that probably got him suspended. That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I think that that ref Brad Allen just saw biceps,
triceps in traps in front of him and heard a
haunting voice that sounded like a diesel engine, and then
he goes, I am I fear for my life in
this moment, and he's probably like I might too.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, top five nightmare ever. Dre Greenlaw angry at me.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Don't like it, but I do think it's something about
that guy in particular doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
My wife's name.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So three oh three, five oh four nine two five,
Chris says, hate to be that guy, but are we
going to talk to the Avs overtime loss? Good news
for you, We did that for the first twenty minutes
of the show. I can't make sure I'm talking about
everything that people want to hear in the exact timeframe
that they listen to the show, so I apologize.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
But more importantly, Chris, you don't need to care about
what we think about that game. Jared Bednar is going
to tell you what he thinks about that call at
eight forty five that too, we're letting him get a
little bit of a little bit of sleep since that
game started at I don't know, midnight yesterday thanks ESPN,
so a little later than usual eight forty five am
will have the coach.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Look.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I just I just want to tell everybody listening, I
do apologize for the for the time that you listen
to the show. I am so eternally grateful for the
minutes that you give me. I say this all the time,
and I truly mean this. Your time is worth more
than your money, so I appreciate you giving your time
to us. At the same time, when you bomb into
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a show thirty five minutes in, there's a good chance
that the biggest thing that happened the day before has
already been discussed. I'm just saying, and I can't sometimes
I can't do it for a full hour, but there's
other things to talk about.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Why are you turning into a professor who kind of
kids showing up late to class.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
No, it's not even that. It's just I see this
so often.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's like, jeez, Broncos, are we gonna talk about this thing.
It's like, yeah, we did that and we'll do it again.
I promise, I pinky promise, solemnly swear, cross my heart,
hope to die, boy scout hand all that stuff. Seven
o'clock we're right back to it, and eight forty five
with Jared Bednar and a multitude of other other times.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Promise.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
But we have something we do every week called the
NFL Stockup stock Down that we'll do it next. Every
week following the NFL weekend, we do a little NFL
stock Up stock down, take a look around the league
and see who's being impressive and who's not well. We
always start with the quarterbacks, so stock up. This is
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just your yearly reminder when this guy is healthy, that
Dak Prescott is a really, really good quarterback. You know,
he has been plagued by injuries, and whenever he's gotten injured,
that has completely tanked the seasons of the Dallas Cowboys,
and it's happened pretty frequently over.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
The last few years.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He's just found himself in positions where he's hurt. Well,
this year, he's healthy and outside of a limited first week,
Remember they had that Thursday night football game against the
Eagles to open up the season in which he was
just okay. He's got sixteen touchdown passes in his last
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six games to only three picks. He's thrown for eighteen
almost nineteen hundred yards already, and he is leading one
of the NFL's most potent offenses. And make no mistake,
I think that having a threat like that at quarterback
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has directly led to a resurgent Javonte Williams. If Jonathan
Taylor did not exist, the leading rusher in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Is Javonte Why.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I think they are so terrified of the Cowboys throwing
the football that it is opening up a lot of
rushing lanes for Javonte Williams, in a lot of room
for him to just kind of pick his way through.
So I don't think there's any question when you talk
about Dak Prescott, he is the direct healthy version of
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him can directly affect how good the Boys are going
to be and how far they're going to go, because
he'll find Ceedee Lamb and he'll find George Pickens and
he'll find Ferguson like. It's a potent enough offense to
where they're winning football games in spite of a terrible defense.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You have to be good. If that's the case.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Nak Prescott deserves credit, so he gets a stock up
quarterbacks stock down. I'm just gonna say, anybody that wears
a Jets uniform and takes a snap under center like
I did justin Fields last week, you could easily do
that again. Because it looks like he's going to get benched.
But Tyrod Taylor comes in for him last week and
he was ten of twenty two for one hundred and
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twenty six yards and two picks. He didn't do any better.
They just feel lost on offense. And I want to
ask you a question. So their owner, Woody Johnson comes out.
He says this about Justin Fields, and I want to
know is this in defense of his head coach or
is this to put pressure on his head coach to
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make a check.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You be the judge. Listen, what you're a confidence level
in Aaron to turn it around. Well, it looks like
he's turning around parts of it.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
You know, it's hard when you have a quarterback with
you know, with a rating that we've got, you know,
I mean, he has the ability, but something just is
not jiving. But if you look at any any head
coach of the quarterback like that, you're going to see
similar results if you across the league.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
You have to play.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
Consistently with you know, at that position, and that's what
we're going to try to do during the remainder of
the season.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Saying it would be better if we can complete a
pass is yes, a shot at justin fields, but it's
also I think, hey, Aaron Glenn, make the change. But
all of this I think is done to protect his
head coach, who is so far winless. But if you
line up under center for the Jets, you haven't been good.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And I mean, look, man, the Jets are putting up
This is what they've done so far this year.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Outside that first game that was really fun against Pittsburgh
where they put up thirty two points, it's ten, twenty seven,
twenty one, twenty two in the last two weeks eleven
and six.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
They can't score.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And speaking of can't score, that's what makes this next
guy so important for non quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Dock up.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Do you know how hard it is to be able
to run the football effectively while not having any threat
at quarterback. I mean, if you look at the year
the Breese Halls having, you'll see the impact of a
bad passing game and what that could do to your
rushing numbers. Conversely, we just talked about Javonte, You'll see
what a great quarterback can do to help a running
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back open things up in that part of the game.
Quinn Shawn Judkins has been really good for Cleveland since
they kind of they like slow worked him in because
he missed all the offseason. He's a rookie, said to
ease his reps as he got into the league. But
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he doesn't have anything at QB. Dylan Gabriel can't. He
just can't play, and they're gonna stick with him, I
suppose for at least a little bit. But he's thrown
for like one hundred and eighteen yards last week, and
when you have no fear of the quarterback, it's really
hard to run the football unless you're quin Shawn Judge.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
He ran the ball like crazy last week, eighty three yards,
three touchdowns. He's finding open holes and once he finds
a seam, that guy goes and goes in a hurry.
I've been wildly impressed by Judkins, and I do think
that he's got really cool hair. He's got that fifty
to fifty split. One side is the braids that's all black,
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the other side is the braids that's died blonde. Very
cool looking set up. I appreciate that too, But he's
just fun to watch. He's got power, he's got speed,
and he's had at least sixty yards in every game
that he's played in this year except for one. Keep
in mind that they slow ruled him into the offense.
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But I think he's been phenomenal and exactly what they
were asking for, especially with the situation they find themselves in.
If they can run the football effectively and play good
defense with those pass rushers on the other side, they
can win football games. They probably won't win a lot,
but at least it makes them capable. So let's go
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to nine quarterbacks dock down. So there's a few different
options you can go to with this. I I don't
know how to. Some times I do just an overarching
just position group for a team, like I kind of
did with the Jets quarterback earlier.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I would say this is Cardinals running backs.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Cardinals running backs, whether you're Michael Carter or Bam Knight
or whoever. Ever, since they had that injury to James Connor,
they've had a rough time finding success on the ground again.
And they need to have that with the quarterbacks that
they have, because their quarterbacks are okay, but they aren't great,
not good enough to carry the load of an offense
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without a rushing attack, and especially not having Kyler Murray
healthy and in the lineup right now, you're relying on
guys that just it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Feel like they have.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
The capabilities to give you the rushing game that you need.
Jacoby Brissett is trying his best to kind of hold
it together. But why do you think late in games
there's meltdowns in which they they keep coming up short.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I mean they're up seven.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I think heading into the fourth quarter against Green Bay
last week, couldn't find a running game that allows green
Bay multiple opportunities at the end because their offense wasn't
much better, but they outscored the Cardinals fourteen to three,
and that's what gives them the opportunity to end up winning.
Can't find the running game, I give it to the
Cardinals rushing attack for the stock down NFL team stock up.
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So last week I went with the Seahawks, and it's
because the Seahawks are very under the radar, Nobody discussing
them much, not giving them credit. I hate the Chicago Bears,
but they won four straight and they did that after
losing their first two.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
They get a brand new head coach in Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I do think that Ben Johnson has improved the consistency.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I still think there's flaws there that exposed by better
teams in the league. But you were looking and if
you're a Bears fan, hoping that it would just provide
a spark or a glimmer of hope for what this
team could be.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
And I think Ben Johnson's done that for them. Again.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
After starting zero to two, they've won four straight, which
you got to give them credit for. Now they're playing
at Baltimore and at Cincinnati. That typically sounds like a
murderer's row of two weeks until you remember who Baltimore
and Cincinnati are. Now that Flacco since team might be
a little bit different, might be a little bit different.
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If Lamar Jackson comes back in the lineup this week.
But bottom line is the Bears are playing a much
better brand of football. And if you're looking for Ben
Johnson to give them offense, well it's been thirty one points,
twenty five, twenty five, and twenty six in the last
four weeks. Pretty impressive. NFL team's stocked down. Few different
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options here. I mean, the Dolphins are just absolute garbage.
But I'm gonna give this to the Steelers, and here's
why they should have beaten Cincinnati. Make this wild comeback
at the end of the game, big touchdown pass to Friarmouth,
and you allow Sincy to come back and win that game.
They were gonna run away to that division if they
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get easy wins like that, and instead they gave that up,
they get the stock down and.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Running out of time.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Best game of the week, Oh yes, it was a
pretty good game actually, between Cincy and Pittsburgh. If you
had to choose one, that one was pretty good. I
could also go with I thought that Eagles Vikings was
pretty entertaining as well. Back and forth. Vikings with a
chance to win it late, couldn't quite pull it out.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Let's go. Worst game of the week. Oh my god, what's.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
My hard and fast rule here, somebody gets shut out.
That's the worst game of the week. Congratulations Chiefs Raiders
thirty one and nothing Boring as hell. Can watch it
eleven On twitch, twitch dot tv. Search out to Ude's
are in the search bar of the outitude. The TV
simulcast is the Safeway twitch feed. Talk about the Avs
overtime loss from last night in just a couple of minutes.
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Jared Bednard eight forty five mosta Lombarding came next.
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Check out Brett weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
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Radio app.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Knocked down by Natus in front of his own bench,
coolly takes it away from him. Now, Sergachev, So is
it far sides? Toole them by Val? The Choshkin as
almost offside there? Handed off for LANDI Scott.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
It's gones, oh, captain, my captain strikes through a screen
for his first regular season goal since two thousand and
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Year's a goal.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
After Coach's challenge Radio Withview it was determined.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Offside.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
No, I mean I knew it, but it's it's so ridiculous.
It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
I expect nothing and I'm still it down.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So the FS losing ot yesterday.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
But that call a very very confusing one, as we
were told a million different things from Hey, that looks
like it's offside because two guys are on the ice
at the same time. The guy shoveled the puck into
the zone himself. Does that negate the off side? I
think it does. Here's the call. Nope, it doesn't. Is
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some other reason. I don't understand it. I hate that rule.
I hate it. Like, here's what I don't get about,
and we'll get to the full game in a second,
but that call just really bothered me. And I'm the
first to tell you I'm not the biggest hockey expert
you're gonna come across. But somebody tell me this, it's
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offside because the guys were not involved in the play
going to the bench. So there's a skate of somebody
not involved in the play on the ice and that's
why it's offside. Riddle me this, then, Nelly, why isn't
it too many men on the ice? If we're counting
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those skates as players, then why isn't it too many
men on the ice? And the answer is because you
give guys grace when they're there. Think about this, like
when a quarterback is giving himself up and you can't
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hit them, you don't treat them as a normal player.
These guys gave themselves up, not involved in.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The play anymore. And I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Why that wouldn't be too many men on the ice,
But it does count for an offside. And then on
tip of that, the guy shoveling the puck in himself.
I thought that was case closed. That if if the
the opposing team knocks the puck into their own zone,
that negates any sort of offside.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well that is what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
So I don't I don't get it now, is it
I always put this qualifier on there so people don't
get too crazy?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Is it the reason that you lost?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
If there's any good that came out of losing that
way in overtime that it was quick because I was sleepy. Uh,
it was basically I went to take a take a tinkle.
By the time I came back, Sharks had the puck
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on their stick and it was just what ten seconds
it felt like into that overtime? Yeah, yeah, thirty start
the period, be done with the period over, Brett.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Are you excited for how season Native Game of Thrones
is gonna wrap up? I know the so far it
hasn't been good, but I'm really hoping that they end
the show strong. I'm also hoping I can get to
this theater and see Avengers End Game because that's in
theaters right now.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I hear that's a pretty cool movie. Oh wait, is
it twenty nineteen again?
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Because this is exactly what happened to the Avs back
when the Sharks were good, right and they played them
in twenty nineteen. I mean, I guess my time machine worked.
Can you believe that next year is gonna be twenty twenty?
That doesn't even sound like a real year. That's gotta
be a that's gotta be a fun time. I'm excited
for twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I mean, when when the years line up like that,
when there's the same thing over and over again, back
to back, you know a good year's coming.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You just know it.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah again, I thought the Avs played in okay game,
I had a future many tur and overs in the defensives,
and they weren't. They weren't as sharp on the defensive
side as they been for most of this season. You know,
put Weggie in some some tough spots. So he has
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the what now he has five games in which he's
given up one goal and the other two he's given
up four that have both been sent into overtime.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Boy, isn't it crazy how this this song old Town
Road is blowing up the charts right now?
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Who's this little not sex kid? Good for him?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It said twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
That was yeah, And.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
Now I'm just going down the rabbit hole of what
was popular the last time this happened to the Avs
six years ago.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well at that time, Ian Cole, who was a Utah
Mammoth player, now I believe was he was on the
ABS in twenty nineteen, wasn't he?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yes? He was?
Speaker 5 (05:53):
And you were, Greg, you weren't even Brett yet.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Well let me think you yeah, God, I was.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I was here for that, you were because this was
that was also my first season producing games and for
this station. So that was when the Avs and the
Nuggets both made the playoffs at the same time for
the first time in ages, which is crazy to think now, yeah,
but we just take that for granted. But back then,
I remember it was the the Nuggets against the Spurs
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and then the Avs. Who do they face in that
first round? Was it the Blues?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Uh? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
And then the Sharks in the second round?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Hang on a second, because that wasn't that the wild
year where there was like twenty three home games between
the Avs and the Nuggets in like twenty seven days
or something like that.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Because both those series went seven games, and so it
was just I don't know if it was always home games,
but it was every other night. It was just as
Nuggets as Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It was Arizona.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
Was the first round, Arizona, That's so it was.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
This wait a minute, no, no, no, no, hang on, hang on no,
I was looking at the bubble.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That was a year afterwards. It was Calgary in the
first round.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
That's right, that was Calgary.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
That was when they beat the Flames in Calee mccarr, Yes,
he went from college.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Straight to the ice for the Abs.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's right, yep.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
No, twenty twenty.
Speaker 7 (07:21):
I think they played the Coyotes in the bubble, and
Darcy Kemper was the only reason the Coyotes kept it interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I was gonna say, That's what looked so weird to
me is that it says Stanley Cup qualifier in and
I forgot there were games that had to be played
before the postseason started because of bubble.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
COVID stuffy, What a stupid time we lived in.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
But actually that's that is a good segue.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Though.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
It's crazy that even though the Utah Mammoth have a
completely different name, right, that they were the Arizona Coyotes
and now they've moved, but it's a lot of the
same roster. Even with a new name and a new city.
They're still giving the Avalanche fits. There's still that little
mosquito like you remember when when when the Coyotes played
in that stupid small arena that held like four people,
and the Avs just something always went screwy when they
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played are he had.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
To take a bus to get to your locker room
every time that you the period ended.
Speaker 7 (08:12):
Yeah, always giving him fits. And now that they're the Mammoth,
it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Well, and it's still like you're clearly a better hockey
team than they are. They have good players, don't get
me wrong, They're they're decent. I thought Vamialka made a
few just massive saves to keep a minute. McKinnon had
that one sequence. Was that in the second or maybe
it was the first. Let me go back here for
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a second.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, it was towards the end of the first period.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
McKennon had a breakaway, Vamilica makes the save, McKenny gets
the rebound, looks like he can like side door it,
and Vamilica makes another one. He did that a few
times to McKennon, just stepping up in a huge spot
and making a play. Here's again going back to that
call of the no goal. What the ref said was crazy.
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So here's the rule. The rule is, if you what
word do they use propel the puck into your own zone,
that negates any off side. They go to replay review,
they're looking at it for a long time, and then
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they said offside is going to stand, and they said
something along the lines of because of the action that
the Avalanche player caused, it caused the off sides And
I would love to know what the hell that means.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Vala Chushkin was playing.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Is that the actions you're talking about by actively playing
the sport he's paid to play in. And I don't
want to again, I don't want to overharp on this
because I don't think it's the reason why you lost.
But it was like a huge momentum changer in the game,
and it's just a rule I don't understand. You know, again,
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it's are we treating the players going to the bench
as active players on the ice or not? Because if
you are, teams have too many men on the ice
every time somebody makes a change, but you don't call
that because they aren't involved in the play, and you
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got the puck on one side of the ice, the
bench is on the other. I think the same sort
of rules should apply, But it would be like, you know,
some sports have the how about this, Nelly, it's a
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hail Mary, and we all know that hail Mary's. Past
interference does not exist on Hail Mary. It's just you
can do whatever you want. It's an absolute free for all.
But then they would get very TICKI tack on a
hail Mary attempt where it's like there's guys mugging each
other in the end zone, but then you have like
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an illegal contact call, Like no, we all kind of
understand there's no rules. Now we've all decided as a
country that there's no rules in hail Mary's. Anybody can
do what they want. It's a free for all. It's
a game of five hundred. You can't get really specific with.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Other rules if that's happening.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
And I had a lot of these tweets come out
at me last night about, uh, it sounds like the
broadcast is biased. I will say it was. There was
a lot more excitement for Utah for whatever reason that
it did feel that way. Now I've said this before.
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I'm not a boucher gross guy to start with, I don't.
I don't think he's he does a good job, and
that I don't do that very often, So I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
It, Yeah, I don't. I don't know what else to
say it, Nelly.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm trying to be nice because I know how difficult
that job is, and that's why I don't get on
play by play guys very often.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I just don't. I don't like that style in particular.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But anyway, if there was something really I think good
that happened you had, I mean that that goal that
was scored by Marty Nachos was unreal. Just to get
the game back evened up and get you in a
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position where you can take a point out of it,
I mean to find that angle, that perfect angle that
whizzes by the ear hole of Themelka who's been great
all night, to get it in that moment, right before
you're about to pull your goalie and play the old
scramble drill at the end of the game of Pray
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to God, nobody throws it in the center of the ice.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
It's so big time to be able to still get
a point out of that.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So credit to Marty Nachos, and we'll get more into
this as we go along today three oh three, five
oh four oh nine two five shop maz to text
nine one price, one person, one hour.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So uh, here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
We're gonna push NFL stockup stock down to the end
of the hour because there's something else. There's two things
Broncos wise that I really need to talk about, and
I do not want to wait, so we'll get to
that next. We'll get to the NFL stock up stock
down in twenty minutes. Jared Bednar is going to join
us at eight forty five this morning, talk about that
game last night.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And what to expect moving forward.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
I'm especially curious how he's going to handle the goaltending.
Maybe it makes it a little easier to get Blackwood
on the ice now with a four goal game allowed
from Weggie. But Weggie's been playing great. So we'll see
at a forty five with Jared Bednar. I never thought
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i'd see it, and I've been begging for this. I
think a lot of people have.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
There are some people that.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Are just too nice and they allow people to walk
all over them without checking anybody. And I think that
kindness and turning the other cheek and that kind of
stuff is all admirable qualities that we should all strive
to have, because it's better than the alternative that you're
somebody who flies off the handle of the smallest things
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every two seconds. Having sort of a cool, calm demeanor
that you don't allow other people to ruffle your feathers
is generally the right approach to life.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm so mad now, but there has.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
To be some sort of point where you say, enough's enough.
You can't do this anymore. You're gonna push.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Me on talk.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And it feels like we finally reached that point with
Russell Wilson after taking years of abuse, a lot of it,
by the way, misguided and unfair.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
You go all the way back to his days in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The fact that there's a huge number of players on
that team that is unwilling to give him credit for
any of the success.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
That if you ask Richard Sherman why.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
They won the Super Bowl, they'd be like, because the
secondary was really good. Yeah, that and Marshawn Lynch and
Russell Wilson was one of the best quarterbacks in the
league that too.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Consistently, and so you, stemming all the.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Way back from those days to what happened when he
got here in Denver, where yes, was not successful, It
did not work, It crashed and burned. But the amount
of his peers taking joy in his demise was startling
in a way that I've never quite seen in sports.
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That it just felt like it was open season for
players within the league to make fun of that guy publicly,
kickers like Justin Tucker making fun of.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
A guy like that.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
And then it all kind of comes to this boiling
point of Russell Wilson's standing on the sideline and just
taking an absolute tongue lashing from Sean Payton with no response.
And I couldn't help but feel bad. It's somebody, it's
(17:22):
somebody abusing a puppy, and you know the puppy can't
do anything back. But I was wondered, why did Russell
still just want his professional persona to be the thing
that shines through the most. You know, it's hard enough
to call out your head coach, especially one like Sean Payton,
(17:47):
but if you remember, Sean Payton did the thing again
where he said something that you probably just shouldn't say.
And I don't see any purpose to this other than
just being an ass being honest, I'm being honest. The
only reason why Sean Payton would say this and volunteer
(18:08):
this to the public when he doesn't tell us anything. Remember,
we don't do a lot of Sean Payton Addy, or
at least I don't, because I don't think that he
says anything interesting for the most part, Like Hey, what
do you think dra Greenlaw brings to the table and
what does he tell you? I'm not talking about injured players,
(18:31):
And the whole thing was, well, I was under the
impression that he wasn't injured anymore.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
These are the hypotheticals, right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I love him like there's no hypothetical of do you
like the player coming back on the field for you?
He doesn't tell you anything, but God, is he willing
to call somebody out. We saw that immediately with Nathaniel Hackett,
and then after the Giants game last week, Sean Payton
(18:59):
steps up to the micone because they make the quarterback
change Jackson Dart from Russell Wilson, and it's clear and
obvious to everybody that Russell Wilson is not as good.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
As this rookie quarterback is. It's clear and he says this.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I have a ton of respect for that organization. I
spent four in my early years there coordinating Super Bowl
first game in this stadium before nine to eleven close
with the Marrit Tish family, and you know they found
a little spark with that quarterback. I was talking to
(19:39):
John Mayer not too long ago, and I said, we
were hoping that that change would have happened long long
after our game.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What's the point?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
What's the point of Make no mistake, Nelly, that was
not about paying a compliment to Jackson Dart.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
What that was.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It was a bleep you to Russell Wilson. In the
amount of times Russell Wilson's had a middle finger like
double barreled right between his eyeballs, it borders on like weird,
like you could even throw into the mix. And I
(20:22):
don't think this one was intentional at all, but it
was still incredibly embarrassing. A head coach ran into the
medical tent after a player had a feared concussion to
yell at him to get back out on the field
because Russell Wilson made him so upset by one play
(20:46):
that Make no mistake. I have my own thoughts towards
Russell Wilson that I think that obviously his game has declined,
but put his game on the back burner for a
second and just talk about the guy. Do I think
that there is some phoniness to his personality, that it's
very much like a politician. Yeah, I do. But still
(21:11):
never seen somebody get this many shots, this many arrows
thrown his direction by people within his realm. This isn't
some guy with a YouTube channel taking.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Shots.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
Own little internet shows are driving me crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's not that it's not some dude, some talking head
on ESPN. This is players and coaches in the NFL
doing this.
Speaker 7 (21:41):
By the way, do you want to hear what Sean
Payton was asked at the start of that answer?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Yeah, I should say so.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
He did a Sean Payton special where he was asked
something and then he spoke for about two minutes and
then got to the cut we played.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
So there was a lot of evolution, But here's how
it started, Sewan.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
Before the year you talked about you know all these
different factors. You know you've seen winning teams, have you know,
to be able to say comments like super Bowl et cetera,
et ceterass.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I meaning this is back and I want to make
sure we're on the same page.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
This and TheInk.
Speaker 7 (22:13):
He starts monologuing it was about Super Bowl expectations.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
And it's just like I'll take it and then I'll
say what I think is I winning?
Speaker 6 (22:20):
And there's well yeah, and again I have a ton
of respect for that organization.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And I got exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So anyway, I say all this to say, Russell Wilson
actually responded. He said class lists but not surprised. Didn't
realize you're still bounty hunting fifteen plus year years later
through the media hashtag let's ride.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Considering I don't think Russell Wilson taps into the bleep
talk stuff. How would I grade his response like a
three out of ten. But the fact that he responded
was enough for me. And people say, that's not a
jab at Russ. That's giving props to Dart. Russ is
a tool. It was not giving props to Dart. It
(23:23):
was masked by giving props to Dart. That's what it was.
I mean, again, there's a track record here. Okay, Sean
(23:43):
Payton does this. He calls people out occasionally. Just what
I don't understand is what the hell was the nature
of that relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
And again, there is a.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Sort of trash talking nature of Sean Payton that I
think there has to be a lot of success to
back up talking the way that he does, and he's
got a track record of it, and the team is
five and two. I don't want to discount that, but
(24:30):
we all kind of see the flaws in your own
or his own way of thinking.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Would I talk with Russell abouts none your business?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, I guess because none of that could be fit
for air unless he leaves the team, and then you
can say whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I just again, I.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Think it's a bad look. I just think it's a
bad look and it's unnecessary. Now you kind of get
your own issues here. You've got a quarterback right now
that is playing well for like eight minutes a game,
and somehow that's good enough to win the entire thing.
But AnyWho, I mean, I'm just looking at the text
(25:09):
line and here's the translation I'm getting from a lot
of people. I think Russell Wilson is a tool. Okay,
it doesn't mean what Sean Payton did is allowed that.
It doesn't mean that everybody can take a shot at him.
And I'm glad that he stuck up for himself.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
By the way, the Drake Greenlaws suspension has been upheld,
so he is going to miss this game. I wish
I really want to know what was said. Somebody needs
to go pabulatory on this thing and just tell me
what he said to the ref.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I want to know what the threat was.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Also, the visual of throwing a penalty flag after the
game got done is hysterical. That flag represents nothing anymore.
You can't punish me with a penalty flag. Now the
suspension different story, But that suspension being upheld. I mean
(26:11):
I I'm trying to think, did you threaten to kill him,
to kill his family? What is it that you said?
Because again part of this, Nelly I mentioned this yesterday.
If Drake Greenlaw wasn't Drake Greenlaw and he was five ten,
(26:36):
one hundred and seventy pounds and said the exact same thing,
does it feel as threatening or is it because just
maybe maybe Drake Greenlaw is one of the most physically
imposing people I've ever seen on a football field.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Does I still think that's part of it here?
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Saying if Will Lutz ran up to him and said, hey, buddy,
keep your hands off of my teammate.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Pa.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I don't think that Will Lutz is being suspended for
a game.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
If you said I think there's something, I strongly disagree
with you, mister no.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
I think there's something about a giant bicep running up
to you in the middle of your face and.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Going that probably got him suspended. That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I think that that ref Brad Allen just saw biceps,
triceps in traps in front of him and heard a
haunting voice that sounded like a diesel engine, and then
he goes, I am I fear for my life in
this moment, and he's probably like I might too.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I mean, top five nightmare ever. Dre Greenlaw angry at me.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Don't like it, but I do think it's something about
that guy in particular doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
My wife's name.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
So three oh three, five oh four nine two five,
Chris says, hate to be that guy, but are we
going to talk to the Avs overtime loss? Good news
for you, We did that for the first twenty minutes
of the show. I can't make sure I'm talking about
everything that people want to hear in the exact timeframe
that they listen to the show, so I apologize.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
But more importantly, Chris, you don't need to care about
what we think about that game. Jared Bednar is going
to tell you what he thinks about that call at
eight forty five that too, we're letting him get a
little bit of a little bit of sleep since that
game started at I don't know, midnight yesterday thanks ESPN,
so a little later than usual eight forty five am
will have the coach.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Look.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
I just I just want to tell everybody listening, I
do apologize for the for the time that you listen
to the show. I am so eternally grateful for the
minutes that you give me. I say this all the time,
and I truly mean this. Your time is worth more
than your money, so I appreciate you giving your time
to us. At the same time, when you bomb into
(29:11):
a show thirty five minutes in, there's a good chance
that the biggest thing that happened the day before has
already been discussed. I'm just saying, and I can't sometimes
I can't do it for a full hour, but there's
other things to talk about.
Speaker 7 (29:21):
Why are you turning into a professor who kind of
kids showing up late to class.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
No, it's not even that. It's just I see this
so often.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's like, jeez, Broncos, are we gonna talk about this thing.
It's like, yeah, we did that and we'll do it again.
I promise, I pinky promise, solemnly swear, cross my heart,
hope to die, boy scout hand all that stuff. Seven
o'clock we're right back to it, and eight forty five
with Jared Bednar and a multitude of other other times.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Promise.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
But we have something we do every week called the
NFL Stockup stock Down that we'll do it next. Every
week following the NFL weekend, we do a little NFL
stock Up stock down, take a look around the league
and see who's being impressive and who's not well. We
always start with the quarterbacks, so stock up. This is
(30:19):
just your yearly reminder when this guy is healthy, that
Dak Prescott is a really, really good quarterback. You know,
he has been plagued by injuries, and whenever he's gotten injured,
that has completely tanked the seasons of the Dallas Cowboys,
and it's happened pretty frequently over.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
The last few years.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
He's just found himself in positions where he's hurt. Well,
this year, he's healthy and outside of a limited first week,
Remember they had that Thursday night football game against the
Eagles to open up the season in which he was
just okay. He's got sixteen touchdown passes in his last
(30:57):
six games to only three picks. He's thrown for eighteen
almost nineteen hundred yards already, and he is leading one
of the NFL's most potent offenses. And make no mistake,
I think that having a threat like that at quarterback
(31:17):
has directly led to a resurgent Javonte Williams. If Jonathan
Taylor did not exist, the leading rusher in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Is Javonte Why.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I think they are so terrified of the Cowboys throwing
the football that it is opening up a lot of
rushing lanes for Javonte Williams, in a lot of room
for him to just kind of pick his way through.
So I don't think there's any question when you talk
about Dak Prescott, he is the direct healthy version of
(31:55):
him can directly affect how good the Boys are going
to be and how far they're going to go, because
he'll find Ceedee Lamb and he'll find George Pickens and
he'll find Ferguson like. It's a potent enough offense to
where they're winning football games in spite of a terrible defense.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
You have to be good. If that's the case.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Nak Prescott deserves credit, so he gets a stock up
quarterbacks stock down. I'm just gonna say, anybody that wears
a Jets uniform and takes a snap under center like
I did justin Fields last week, you could easily do
that again. Because it looks like he's going to get benched.
But Tyrod Taylor comes in for him last week and
he was ten of twenty two for one hundred and
(32:39):
twenty six yards and two picks. He didn't do any better.
They just feel lost on offense. And I want to
ask you a question. So their owner, Woody Johnson comes out.
He says this about Justin Fields, and I want to
know is this in defense of his head coach or
is this to put pressure on his head coach to
(32:59):
make a check.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You be the judge. Listen, what you're a confidence level
in Aaron to turn it around. Well, it looks like
he's turning around parts of it.
Speaker 9 (33:09):
You know, it's hard when you have a quarterback with
you know, with a rating that we've got, you know,
I mean, he has the ability, but something just is
not jiving. But if you look at any any head
coach of the quarterback like that, you're going to see
similar results if you across the league.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
You have to play.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
Consistently with you know, at that position, and that's what
we're going to try to do during the remainder of
the season.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Saying it would be better if we can complete a
pass is yes, a shot at justin fields, but it's
also I think, hey, Aaron Glenn, make the change. But
all of this I think is done to protect his
head coach, who is so far winless. But if you
line up under center for the Jets, you haven't been good.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
And I mean, look, man, the Jets are putting up
This is what they've done so far this year.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Outside that first game that was really fun against Pittsburgh
where they put up thirty two points, it's ten, twenty seven,
twenty one, twenty two in the last two weeks eleven
and six.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
They can't score.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
And speaking of can't score, that's what makes this next
guy so important for non quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Dock up.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Do you know how hard it is to be able
to run the football effectively while not having any threat
at quarterback. I mean, if you look at the year
the Breese Halls having, you'll see the impact of a
bad passing game and what that could do to your
rushing numbers. Conversely, we just talked about Javonte, You'll see
what a great quarterback can do to help a running
(34:53):
back open things up in that part of the game.
Quinn Shawn Judkins has been really good for Cleveland since
they kind of they like slow worked him in because
he missed all the offseason. He's a rookie, said to
ease his reps as he got into the league. But
(35:14):
he doesn't have anything at QB. Dylan Gabriel can't. He
just can't play, and they're gonna stick with him, I
suppose for at least a little bit. But he's thrown
for like one hundred and eighteen yards last week, and
when you have no fear of the quarterback, it's really
hard to run the football unless you're quin Shawn Judge.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
He ran the ball like crazy last week, eighty three yards,
three touchdowns. He's finding open holes and once he finds
a seam, that guy goes and goes in a hurry.
I've been wildly impressed by Judkins, and I do think
that he's got really cool hair. He's got that fifty
to fifty split. One side is the braids that's all black,
(35:59):
the other side is the braids that's died blonde. Very
cool looking set up. I appreciate that too, But he's
just fun to watch. He's got power, he's got speed,
and he's had at least sixty yards in every game
that he's played in this year except for one. Keep
in mind that they slow ruled him into the offense.
(36:25):
But I think he's been phenomenal and exactly what they
were asking for, especially with the situation they find themselves in.
If they can run the football effectively and play good
defense with those pass rushers on the other side, they
can win football games. They probably won't win a lot,
but at least it makes them capable. So let's go
(36:48):
to nine quarterbacks dock down. So there's a few different
options you can go to with this. I I don't
know how to. Some times I do just an overarching
just position group for a team, like I kind of
did with the Jets quarterback earlier.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I would say this is Cardinals running backs.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Cardinals running backs, whether you're Michael Carter or Bam Knight
or whoever. Ever, since they had that injury to James Connor,
they've had a rough time finding success on the ground again.
And they need to have that with the quarterbacks that
they have, because their quarterbacks are okay, but they aren't great,
not good enough to carry the load of an offense
(37:32):
without a rushing attack, and especially not having Kyler Murray
healthy and in the lineup right now, you're relying on
guys that just it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Feel like they have.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
The capabilities to give you the rushing game that you need.
Jacoby Brissett is trying his best to kind of hold
it together. But why do you think late in games
there's meltdowns in which they they keep coming up short.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
I mean they're up seven.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
I think heading into the fourth quarter against Green Bay
last week, couldn't find a running game that allows green
Bay multiple opportunities at the end because their offense wasn't
much better, but they outscored the Cardinals fourteen to three,
and that's what gives them the opportunity to end up winning.
Can't find the running game, I give it to the
Cardinals rushing attack for the stock down NFL team stock up.
(38:29):
So last week I went with the Seahawks, and it's
because the Seahawks are very under the radar, Nobody discussing
them much, not giving them credit. I hate the Chicago Bears,
but they won four straight and they did that after
losing their first two.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
They get a brand new head coach in Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
I do think that Ben Johnson has improved the consistency.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Of Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I still think there's flaws there that exposed by better
teams in the league. But you were looking and if
you're a Bears fan, hoping that it would just provide
a spark or a glimmer of hope for what this
team could be.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
And I think Ben Johnson's done that for them. Again.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
After starting zero to two, they've won four straight, which
you got to give them credit for. Now they're playing
at Baltimore and at Cincinnati. That typically sounds like a
murderer's row of two weeks until you remember who Baltimore
and Cincinnati are. Now that Flacco since team might be
a little bit different, might be a little bit different.
(39:37):
If Lamar Jackson comes back in the lineup this week.
But bottom line is the Bears are playing a much
better brand of football. And if you're looking for Ben
Johnson to give them offense, well it's been thirty one points,
twenty five, twenty five, and twenty six in the last
four weeks. Pretty impressive. NFL team's stocked down. Few different
(39:57):
options here. I mean, the Dolphins are just absolute garbage.
But I'm gonna give this to the Steelers, and here's
why they should have beaten Cincinnati. Make this wild comeback
at the end of the game, big touchdown pass to Friarmouth,
and you allow Sincy to come back and win that game.
They were gonna run away to that division if they
(40:18):
get easy wins like that, and instead they gave that up,
they get the stock down and.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Running out of time.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Best game of the week, Oh yes, it was a
pretty good game actually, between Cincy and Pittsburgh. If you
had to choose one, that one was pretty good. I
could also go with I thought that Eagles Vikings was
pretty entertaining as well. Back and forth. Vikings with a
chance to win it late, couldn't quite pull it out.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Let's go. Worst game of the week. Oh my god, what's.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
My hard and fast rule here, somebody gets shut out.
That's the worst game of the week. Congratulations Chiefs Raiders
thirty one and nothing Boring as hell. Can watch it
eleven On twitch, twitch dot tv. Search out to Ude's
are in the search bar of the outitude. The TV
simulcast is the Safeway twitch feed. Talk about the Avs
overtime loss from last night in just a couple of minutes.
(41:06):
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