November 3, 2025 • 42 mins
0:00 - How on earth do the Broncos keep finding ways to win? Call it luck, call it Payton's Master Plan, call it whatever you want. But your Denver Football Broncos are 7-2 after another thrilling 4th quarter comeback! How do they keep doing it?
15:01 - Is Brett being too critical on a Rally House Victory Monday? Is it okay to point out this team's deficiencies even though they keep winning?
33:08 - Nix needs to RUN more! Good things happen when he scrambles! Why does he hesitate to move the ball with his legs?
15:01 - Is Brett being too critical on a Rally House Victory Monday? Is it okay to point out this team's deficiencies even though they keep winning?
33:08 - Nix needs to RUN more! Good things happen when he scrambles! Why does he hesitate to move the ball with his legs?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Thirty four. For the win for the Broncos and the
kick is good and the fourth quarter magic remains for
Denver eighteen to fifteen, Denver with the winner.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
You are without doubt the worst seven and two football
team I ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But you have heard of? Are they? I mean? Very well?
Could be true. I don't know how to even you
watch a game like that that once again was mostly bad,
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mostly and you still find a way to win. Could
we say that if CJ. Stroud doesn't take a concussion
in the middle of that game, that that game ends differently?
Maybe maybe not, because it looked like the exact same thing,
Like Davis Mills was doing what CJ. Stroud was doing,
moving the football, and then when he got in the
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red zone, when he got near the goal line, you
were stuffed. I just I want to ask a question
to start out today on when you leave this game,
are you more are you more upset than you are happy?
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You're seven and two, you were tied for the best
record in the AFC, which I don't know how many
people would have had that on their Bengo cards. By
the time we got to the start of November, you
are seven and two, your leaders. The best records in
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the AFC this season are the Cults, the Patriots, and
the Broncos at seven and two, and they've all gotten
there in wildly different ways. Are you more upset with
how that game went or are you more happy that
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you just got the dub again. I know that everybody
can just sit here and tell me, well, you got
the win, and the wins all that matters. I get it.
But there has to be some sort of like evaluative
tool that you need to use, which each with each
one of these games, that you can say, is this
going to translate into the postseason or is this going
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to be another one of those games like we saw
against Buffalo last year? Because we know what's frustrating here.
There's two things for sure. I know that Sean Payton's
boys with Darren Rizzy Darren Rizzy's been awful this year.
I can't count the number of Special Teams mistakes that
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they have made. And it's a killer, or at least
it should have been it should have. How many times
did the Texans come away with points which should have
been like touchdowns because your special teams put them in
miserable position. I mean, at the end of the half,
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you get the three and out, you're gonna get the
ball back with like forty seconds left for the chance
to score before halftime, and Michael Bandy muff's a punt
that gets the the Texans an extra three points. By
the way, some of the things that went down in
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this game the highlights. The guy who I thought played
the best and there wasn't anybody particularly close, was Zach Gallen.
And on that final drive when Zach Allen went down
with an injury, thankfully it was nothing. But all I
could think to myself is if you lose Zach Allen
for an extended period of time because you muffed the
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punt at the end of half, and that's already compounded
upon like three other special teams mistakes that were made
in the middle of that game. I have no idea
how if they were so quick to fire the special
teams coach last year that I can't even remember his name,
it was Ben Cotek. Cut Weeka fired him last year
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because of the debacle at the end of that Kansas
City game where you just had linemen falling over and
pretending that was going to be you know, blocking special teams. Wise,
you get the field goal block, you lose to KZ.
How many different mistakes are you gonna stomach now? Because
this is bad? But more than that, here's what it's
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like really frustrating to me about a Broncos win. I
still I have to keep this perspective, but I'm sure
most of you are feeling the same way I am.
What's the offensive plan? What are you trying to accomplish?
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And this is why I took last week's game with
Dallas with like a salt licks level of salt, because
I didn't think, like, I don't want to take this
all away from the Broncos offense. They were great last week,
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but Dallas's defense made it way more easy. And when
you're playing against what is like the number one defense
in the league, what's your game plan moving into it?
And here's what I noticed. I noticed Sean Payton returning
to a lot of old habits that are bad. I
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noticed beginning of the game JK. Dobbins running the football
pretty effective, and then literally for like two straight quarters,
had no idea if he touched the ball again, and
it all just disappears. You keep looking at this, and
I know that Jeff Flagwold mentions this all the time,
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but it's the truth. There is a league wide problem,
but especially with Sean Payton of if a running play
doesn't work once, he doesn't go back to it. And
yet I looked at bo Nick's stat line where he
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was six of seventeen at the end of that first half.
I'm like, you're willing to continue to throw the ball
when bad things are happening. Texas says you act like
the Texans defense isn't good and has done that to
almost every offense they played this year. I just mentioned
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that the number one defense in league. There's a difference
though the Broncos and what they did on offense against
the Texans is not a unique outlier to the season.
That is what mostly this season has been. I would
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be able to excuse that if they had a bad game.
They've had bad games, which then probably more easily translates
to they just aren't very good on offense, and then
what do you do with that? That's all I'm saying.
And again to their credit, something happens in the fourth
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fourth quarter starts. Let's make an eight yard sixty one
year or eight play sixty one yard drive for a
touchdown and get the two point conversion of tight things up.
Now after that was three and out, three and out.
But all I'm saying is there's a lot of things
that I think look like they work within that offense.
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Why they don't They don't want to run it once
again at the end of the game. Bo Nick's running
the football works, But why is it always at the
end save it for the middle. I don't know why
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there's this hesitancy to not go with things that seem
like they work. And I think it's because they're they're boring,
or maybe you think you're running a risk by having
bo Nicks take off. But I'll tell you this, and
tell me if you've noticed it too. There's a lot
of times on like third downs, where it feels like
bo Nix has a lot of space in front of
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him to run and he's about to take off, but
then he'll let a pass go. And I don't know
if that is him trying to prove a point that
he's he doesn't need his legs to be effective. I mean,
I don't know why there's some sort of pejorative or
negative aura around guys who can run. It's a weapon.
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Now Again, guys like beating the Houston Texans, it's a
good win. Like the Houston Texans. Are they great? No,
they're three and five now, but they're a really tough defense. No,
they limit most teams that they play against to nothing offensively.
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It's just kind of what they do. It's how they're built.
They're really well coached team with Tamiko Ryans. And again,
I think I'd be willing to have this ease my
worries a little bit more if this were the outlier
to the season as opposed to what the constant is.
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And I I apologize if some people don't like my
tone this morning. As the text says, my god, it's
always so negative with you. Did you see all the
upset yes up? All the upsets yesterday? Like your Lions
take a win in this league. Regardless of course you
take it, you're talking to my guy all wrong. It's
wrong tone. The feeling that you're hearing from me is
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an honest one. I'm not gonna fake it and say
you got the greatest team ever. If I don't feel
that way. And I've always said this from the beginning.
Whatever you think about what I'm saying, no one thing
for sure. It's coming from a true and honest place.
And what I want to know from the Broncos is
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if they're different from last year. That's all I'm trying
to figure out. There is no doubt about this. I
was saying this all of last season. You have a
really good football team. I don't know if they're great,
And that's what I'm trying to suss out.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Are they finding ways to win which is a change
from last year? Absolutely, But this feels a lot like
I'll go back to the beginning of the season when
I was talking about a different team that we know
is a good football team, a great football team, and
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I said, if the Kansas City Chiefs think they can
play this one score game, we always win.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It's not sustainable. Their record in one score games last
year was eleven and zero, and I'm like, that ain't
possible to continue that year over year. You know what
the record is this year in one score games? Do
you know what? Off the top of your head in
elly so and four they've lost all of them because
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it's not a sustainable way to live. I'm watching the
Broncos do this, and I'm all I'm thinking to myself
is this isn't sustainable, That's all. And I would like
opportunities in which if you're playing a team like the
Houston Texans whose quarterback CJ. Stroud leaves the game in
the middle of it with a concussion. God, that was
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a big hit. I would have liked to see take
that game by the balls a little bit more. That's
all I'm saying. So it's it's it's an a valuation
tool I'm trying to use because I want to know.
If these Broncos can do this in the postseason, They're
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gonna be a playoff team. There's no doubt about that now.
But I think there's a lack of offensive discipline that is
not going to translate well. I think there is an
absolute absence of special teams play that will kill you
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in a postseason game. I wanted to see the Broncos
from last year to this year graduate to that category
and it hasn't happened yet. For again, there's plenty of
good from the game, and we will talk about it.
But I think you're lying to yourself if you said,
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for three hours yesterday you were having fun watching the
Broncos play, You're happy at the end, and they deserve
credit for again closing out a game in which they're
down in the fourth quarter, and I give them full
credit for it. But you can't tell me, Nelly. Let
me ask you midway through the third quarter, how'd you feel?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I thought it was deja vous all over again. I
thought the Broncos were just gonna keep shooting themselves in
the foot over and over and over and over again.
I mean, I saw somebody I can't remember who it was.
Maybe it was it was Troy Rink, one of these
people who covered the Broncos in town. I saw them
making a list of every single special teams Blunder I
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know from the game up to that point, and it
was longer than my arm. I genuinely couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
All I'm saying is again, take whatever you want from this.
I'm gonna shoot you straight and tell you how I feel.
And there's plenty more to talk about. Three oh three, five,
four nine two five shop mos de Tech signed one price,
one person, one hour at is a rally house victory
Monday back after this.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Yeah, we'll look at that on film, follow that without
without watching on tape. My my my concern was just
the late subs. It was a little bit sloppy in
the kicking game. We'll get that cleaned up or we'll
find someone else that can do it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Sean Payton after the game Broncos win against the Houston
Texans in Houston. That makes six straight for the Denver Broncos,
six straight, tied for the AFC for best record in
the league. There's a there's a heavy mix here, heavy
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mix that I'm seeing on the text line of stop
complaining about a win, also people saying I think the
complaints that you're airing out valid here is can I
just give you the crux of where this is stemming
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from and I'll make a comparison back to like where
the Nuggets were last year heading into this year. If
the Nuggets are tied after I guess it's halfway through
the season. If they're tied in mid January early February
for best record in the Western Conference, but the bench
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looked just as bad as it did last year, and
they're overtaxing nicolea Jokic again and Jamal Murray does not
look great and you're suffering some of the same issues
that you did from the previous season. What would you
do with that information? Would you say nothing to see here,
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team keeps winning, don't care. Would you wonder why aren't
things a little bit better? Because that would be the
guy I would be wondering, why does it still kind
of look the same from last year? And does that
mean we're getting a similar result If the Nuggets this
year had their starting five and one guy off the
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bench that you trusted and that was kind of it again.
And that's just kind of how I feel about the
Broncos right now. It's not that I'm not It's not
that I'm like pissed. They keep winning. Like winning is good,
tied for best in the AFC halfway through the year. Good,
ability to close out games good. But during this win
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streak that they're on the last six, let me just
point something out to you. In the Eagles game, the
Broncos hang on one second. In the Eagles game, which
was five games ago, the Broncos had three points through
the first three quarters and up winning. In the Jets game,
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the Broncos had three points in the final three quarters,
still ended up winning that game. In the Giants game,
the Broncos had zero points through the first three quarters
ended up winning that game. And in the Texans game,
they had seven points through the first three quarters and
ended up winning that game. I think that says a
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lot about their ability to close. I am also wondering
what's happening. Why is it that long of extended stretches
of play with little to no offense, and that going
against some better teams in the league is not going
to be sustainable, which is why my concerns are where
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they are. That's all I'm talking about. If you do
that against Kansas City and you get matched up in
a wild card round in the playoffs, can you win
that way? My guess is probably not. And beyond that,
I think they're better than that. That's most of the
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reason why I'm frustrated. They're capable of being better, and
if they do get better on offense, you're talking about
potentially the best team in the NFL, because there really
isn't There isn't a team that can make that claim
right now. You get better, more consistent offense, this team
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could win a Super Bowl this year. So the question is,
why is it like this? Why are we here? You
continue to win football games. It's a very very good thing.
But I'm pointing out things in the offense that I
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just don't quite understand. I think they block really well
in the run game, for whatever reason, they got away
from it yesterday. I think that Sean Payton has been
mostly better in that category over the course of this season,
but got away from him yesterday because Dobbins was running
the ball really effectively early in the game and then
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it was just kind of like that disappeared. I don't
know why they don't run bo Nicks more. I mean,
I don't know how many times I've said this this year.
I think there's only like three, maybe four guys in
the league that run the ball better than him from
that position. Just are it? Man? It's Lamar Josh Allen
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would have said Jayden Daniels, but now he's done for
the year. Looks like, I don't know how many guys
run the ball better than him, and it's a super
effective weapon. They do it at the end of the
game and he picks up what was that, Nelly a
thirty five yard run to put them in a field
goal position to win the game, and you're like, what,
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we'll do that more it works and inconsistencies in the
past game or just I know that you guys felt
the same way I did. The same way I did
on the touchdown of Sutton. The play previously was what
wide open Evan Ingram for a touchdown that the ball
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sailed on him, And all I can think to myself is,
you can't miss plays like that against a defense like
this because you don't know how many opportunities you're gonna
get with somebody that wide open. And the very next
play is that dime to Courtland Sutton and I go, well, now,
what how are you? How do you miss the wide
open guy? But then Courtland Sutton's got a dude that's
basically on his hip, on the back side of his hip,
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and you drop it perfectly in the bucket. That's what's frustrating.
Why it's in there, That's why we know it. I
know it. And if it's in there more, then you
could be winning a super Bowl. Trust me, this isn't
complaining to complain. This is recognizing how good this team
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can be. That's that's where this is coming. From uh
three oh three, five oh four oh nine two five.
It's it's almost like it's the it's the opposite of
I don't know, whatever tone you think is coming out here,
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it's the opposite of that. It's not even anger. It's like,
this could be so much easier. You have to take
the hard path. But again, six straight dubs, best record
in the AFC, You're making the playoffs. That's happening. So
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three O three five oh four oh nine two five.
I I would be more than welcome if somebody wants
to call and tell me why I'm incorrect on this.
But maybe my perspective is off, maybe it's wrong, but
the phone lines are open as well. Three h three
five four oh nine two five. There's plenty more that
we're gonna get into from over the weekend. Got to
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talk about another loss in Boulder that looked kind of
the same as the week prior, along with the Abs
and Nuggets and what they did over the weekend. But
I just I don't I don't know what other perspective
I could sit here, I guess and talk about how
good they are closing out games in the fourth quarter,
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because that is totally true. I mean they are very
very effective at end of games now, which is a
giant improvement from the year previous. And I think like
one of the sole reasons why you are where you
are this year is that when it matters most, you
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seem to play your best football offensively and defensively. And
Texas says that it feels like the twenty fifteen Broncos
all over again. I got or I did this last week.
I laid out the numbers side by side, the twenty
fifteen defense to the twenty five defense, the twenty fifteen
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offense to the twenty twenty five offense. They're virtually identical,
like exact same teams. And again, I wasn't here in
twenty fifteen. I didn't live through that every single week.
I didn't know what the feelings were every week when
the Broncos had that team. And maybe it's really similar.
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I have no idea, but let's I said, if somebody's
got a reason to tell me that I'm wrong or
I'm looking to change my mind, I don't want to
be the guy who's off on Nyland by himself, the
crazy person yelling at walls and windows. Let's go to
Adrian was on with us Hi.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Adrian, Hey guys, good morning. Thanks for having me on
Brett Brett. I love you, man, but you're just I
don't know what's going on with you today. Okay, No,
definitely tell me. This looks a lot like that twenty
fifteen team, as you mentioned kind of in this lid up,
and it does make sense that you weren't around for it.
You also weren't around for twenty thirteen when Peyton Manning
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broke the single season touchdown passing record and the Broncos
got absolutely fleeced in the Super Bowl. Yeah, by the Seahawks.
So there's a different races to skin this cat, Brett,
and this defense right now does look a lot like
that twenty fifteen team. You said it yourself. Broncos offense
is making plays when they need to and what if
they're holding some of the stuff close to the vest,
because guess what, they're winning without showing any of their
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cards according to you.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Now, So yeah, let's see what happens, all right, Adrian,
thanks for the call. I mean, look, the twenty I
don't want this team to be the twenty thirteen defense
because if the twenty thirteen team, if that was them,
I think we'd be talking a lot about why can't
you stop anybody? And that could be a problem. Now.
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Winning the way that you're winning now and winning the
way that the twenty fifteen team won, I think is
very very difficult to sustain. What are you giggling about
back there? Man?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I love the passion that Adrian had his voice. There
was almost a little shaking in his voice, like he
was about ready to cry.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Brett, I don't you don't understand.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
This is Broncos team.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Brett. I just I don't know. Look, I could just
be maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, but it's how
I feel, and how I feel is that style of
offense does not seem sustainable to me. And you can
point back to twenty fifteen as an example of yes
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that worked. I could point to plenty of teams with
great defenses, bad offenses that didn't win Super Bowls, and
I don't I again, I don't want to. I don't
want to make it seem like I was the first
one to tell you I thought the Broncos were good
last year, like they're a good football team. I didn't
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know if they were great last season. And basically what
I saw from the Buffalo game was My fear is
that they're a good team, but they aren't quite good
enough to compete with the big dogs. Yet they're better
than that now they are able to compete. I think
if they face the Bills in the first round of
the playoffs again this year, it's not thirty one to seven,
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But but is that a possibility? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
All right? A couple more here, Jesse, go ahead, Jesse
wants to yell at Brett, go ahead, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Well, Brett.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
I hate to say it, but for once I asked, kind.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Of agree with you.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
Two things.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Sean Payton, when he talks to the media, he always
talks down to the media. He acts like he's so
much smarter than everybody else, But he has the most
undisciplined team in the NFL right now, and he needs
to clean up his own house before he talks to
everybody else like they're stupid. Also, when you run the
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ball that well, why are we doing these stupid bubble
screens over and over?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You know what?
Speaker 9 (28:30):
The difference between the first three quarters and the fourth
quarter is.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
They stop running stupid bubble screens and actually do something else.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I got, all right, Jesse. Thanks. I'll say this, I've
just gone to accept the bubble screen thing because I
can't yell about that every single week. I'm just like, Okay,
So it's part of his offense, it's what he wants
to do. I don't mind if if he runs that,
as long as he does the things that you do well.
And he got away from the running game.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
In you.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What's really weird, Nelly, is that he'll get away from
the running game in games where I feel like running
the ball mattered most, which is low scoring games. Did
you see one of the most remarkable things about that
game and remarkably frustrating. Did you see the time of
possession at the end of the first half in a
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half of football, the Broncos in the first half possessed
it for seven minutes and twenty one seconds because beyond
like the first drive, they wouldn't. They refuse to run it.
And that's how you get that skewed number. There's only
one way that really happens. Let's go to William next. Hello, William, Hey.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Bratt, long time no talk. He So I'm going to
stick up for you. I do not understand people, and
basically what I'm going to say is you're being a homer.
If you're watching this team and you're saying to yourself, well,
everything is perfect, I can see absolutely nothing wrong because
in twenty fifteen the Broncos went on this epic run
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that nobody expected was going to finish that way. That
it was an anomaly. It is not something that happens
all the time. If this team does that, fantastic, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
It's okay to sit.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
There at the end of the day and go, this
wasn't great.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
That wasn't great.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
I mean, what are we gonna do on a Monday
just sit around and go, everything's perfect, everything's fantastic. I mean,
is this a Lego video? I mean to sing that song?
I don't know, but it wasn't great. It's okay to
break it down, and I appreciate your perspective. Oh I'm
bout to thank you, thank thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
William. All I'm saying is this, like, I don't there's
an in between here. The Broncos are good. They do
a lot of things really well. Obviously, their defense is
incredibly effective and good, no doubt, they're really good at
closing games out. I mean, and part of me at
the end of the game. When the Broncos had the
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football last possession of the fourth quarter fifty seconds left
throughout the thirty six yard line, I almost felt like
it was a foregone conclusion that they would find themselves
in field goal range with a chance to win. And
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that says something about them. I do also think they
got a lot of things that if they don't get
better at, is gonna bite them in the ass, that's all.
And I've been more focused. This is a fair criticism.
I've been more focused on the bad stuff as opposed
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to the good stuff, because the bad stuff is the
stuff we wanted to see corrected year over year that
were halfway through the year, and it looks the same,
if not maybe a little bit worse now. One thing's
absolutely correct. They're pretty undisciplined in a lot of the
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categories that you need to be disciplined on, which is
special teams, which is penalties. Denver averages eight penalties a game.
That's twenty ninth in the league, twenty ninth special teams
problems combined with penalty issues will be killers. So again,
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Speaker 10 (33:08):
We knew it was gonna be a patient game. Uh
you know, they don't leave the league in yards and
points for no reason. They're a good team. It's not
by you know, a fluke. So we knew it was
gonna be tough sledding. But I thought we did a
good job managing, you know, the situations, and we played
a little bit of a field position battle there at
the very end, and we knew it was a matter
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of time too. There was just a drive that you know,
we went down and scored and had a big win
in the first half, big win in the second half,
and then led to the field goal there at the end,
so we knew it wasn't gonna be easy, but we
also knew our defense was gonna play really well like
they did, and so they changed the game for us,
and they pretty much led the entire game, and uh
made stop after stop so that we could go down
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and finish the game.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
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so a lot more to discuss throughout the course of
the show today surrounding the Broncos, football in general, Nuggets,
and ass. It's one more call though, from Tyson, who's
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on with us.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Hi, Tyson, hey man, how you doing.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Good morning, Happy Monday.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Hey.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
I just you know, I think you're dead on about
special teams being a concern. There's a lack of discipline there.
But the reason I'm calling is there were so many
opportunities for Bo to take off and run with daylight
ahead of him. There was a couple instances where he's
basically straddling the line of scrimmage throwing the ball down field.
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There was a at least once it was almost picked off,
but there were several times that looked like he would
have picked up the first down yep with no problem
at all.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
So my question I've wondered to myself, is this a
Bonnicks thing where he's trying to prove that he is
a vertical passer. Is it something he's working on in
his own skill skill set? Is it being coached to him,
you know, by Sean Payton. Is that something that they're
telling him, don't do you need to work? I don't
know what. I just want to see what your take
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is and and wonder why what is do you think
that's keeping him Tyson?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I think it's it's a great call. I've had the
same questions because there was multiple times on third down
where he had opened space in front of him, could
have ran for the first down and tried to fit,
you know, a throw into a tight window. There's one
to Sutton, I do recall the one you're talking about
that was almost picked off where I was watching about
a couple of bodies. We all said the same thing,
it's why aren't you taken off and just getting the
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first down and moving the chains? And I suppose, like
the real answer is, I don't know, but there is
to me a look about bow Knicks when he's in
the pocket right now that I think he is so
fiercely loyal to bow Nicks and wants to mask or
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I'm sorry to uh, Sean Payton, and wants to master
his offense so much that I've thought that bo has
been really overthinking as opposed to reacting, because he wants
to run the offense in such a perfect way. Sean
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Payton is very much somebody who is you know, We've
mentioned this before. He's the scientist and he says, I
got a formula that works, and if you execute the
formula properly, then the offense is going to go. And
so I think he's trying to do that to such
perfection that sometimes he either forgets or doesn't want to
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run some off script off script stuff because he wants
to be so perfect within the offense. You know, when
when Sean Payton last year had that quote about he's
got some fairis Bueller in him, I don't know if
that was a compliment to him, and I think he
was like, when you start to do stuff that are
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off script and create your own plays, that's what I
hated about Russell Wilson. And it's like, but if he's
got that ability to take off an open space and
move the chains, and who cares, I git there let
him do that. So I think this is a lot
about I could be wrong, but my read on it
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is he just wants to be a really good soldier
for his general, and as general said, hey, we're gonna
go do this, sends you out on a mission and
you're like, maybe it would be better if we went
this other route, but this is how the boss said
to do things. So I think it's if I had
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to guess, it's out of fierce loyalty to the Sean
Payton offense that he's trying to execute as opposed to
doing his own thing. But I would tell him there
has to be an in between. You have a god
given ability to take off with speed in open space.
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That very rare. It's a very rare trait for quarterbacks,
and not a lot have that. You know, if I
got Justin Fields as my quarterback. Granted, bo Nicks is better,
but if I had Justin Fields, I wouldn't tell him
don't run. I would actually say, if you find space,
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you take off every time, because it's going to net
something positive. So that's my best guess at it out
of anything other than that, I really don't know. Now again,
you're a seven and two football team. You lead the
division over halfway through the year. This is what we
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all begged for when the season started. Do the Broncos
have an ability to win this division? And I think
as you continue to watch, are there good teams? Are
there great teams in your own division? Yes? Kansas City
is one of those, But that slow start to the
year mixed into this loss. If they beat Buffalo, then
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you were really in for some nervous times. But you've
now got a little bit of a cushion to work
with between you and Kansas City, a two game cushion.
You beat them in a couple of weeks. I mean,
you're you're so far ahead of the game that you're
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probably just looking towards what the Chargers are doing after that.
And the Chargers, who to their credit dealing with a
lot of injuries, have won three of their last four,
just had Joe alt carted off yesterday, So they're dealing
with the two missing tackle thing again. And the last
time they dealt with that earlier in the year is
when the losses came. You're in a really really good spot.
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Nine weeks into the season. You should take care of
the Raiders this Thursday, which would put you at eight,
and if you can steal a win the week after
that Kansas City. I mean you're talking about not just
winning the division, perhaps contending for the number one spot
in the AFC. Now, one thing I think that was
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really impressive yesterday, really impressive. The defense was put in
some terrible positions I mean awful, but at the beginning
of the game. So it's a missed field goal for
the Texans that you combined with your kick getting blocked
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and it was returned to the forty one yard line.
Give up a couple of first downs, they get to
the goal line at the one and the fact that
you had absolutely created a brick wall in front of
that goal line. Then penalty on fourth down by the
Texans nets a field goal. Beautiful Once again, you go
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out a few drives later, bo Nicks throws the interception
the ball that he just floated a little bit too much,
allowed the safety to run underneath it. You get another
stop right at the goal line at the two yard line,
force a hold, they have to settle for a field goal.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Again.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Those are winning football plays. That's a winning sequence. How
did you win the football game? There? Special teams in
offense put your defense in terrible position and they step
up stonewall the opposing team at the goal line twice
and hold them to three points as opposed to six.
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Because we all kind of saw touchdowns are going to
be really tough to come by. But that's what's huge,
And I thought Zach Allen was the star of the
football game. He absolutely decimate everything that we've kind of
heard about that offensive line in Houston, that they were vulnerable.
He exploited every vulnerability, pressure up, the mental, constant harassment,
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tipping balls, that the line is scrimmage, all of it.
I thought he was fantastic. A lot more to talk
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Speaker 3 (00:19):
Thirty four. For the win for the Broncos and the
kick is good and the fourth quarter magic remains for
Denver eighteen to fifteen, Denver with the winner.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
You are without doubt the worst seven and two football
team I ever heard of.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
But you have heard of? Are they? I mean? Very well?
Could be true. I don't know how to even you
watch a game like that that once again was mostly bad,
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mostly and you still find a way to win. Could
we say that if CJ. Stroud doesn't take a concussion
in the middle of that game, that that game ends differently?
Maybe maybe not, because it looked like the exact same thing,
Like Davis Mills was doing what CJ. Stroud was doing,
moving the football, and then when he got in the
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red zone, when he got near the goal line, you
were stuffed. I just I want to ask a question
to start out today on when you leave this game,
are you more are you more upset than you are happy?
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You're seven and two, you were tied for the best
record in the AFC, which I don't know how many
people would have had that on their Bengo cards. By
the time we got to the start of November, you
are seven and two, your leaders. The best records in
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the AFC this season are the Cults, the Patriots, and
the Broncos at seven and two, and they've all gotten
there in wildly different ways. Are you more upset with
how that game went or are you more happy that
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you just got the dub again. I know that everybody
can just sit here and tell me, well, you got
the win, and the wins all that matters. I get it.
But there has to be some sort of like evaluative
tool that you need to use, which each with each
one of these games, that you can say, is this
going to translate into the postseason or is this going
(03:00):
to be another one of those games like we saw
against Buffalo last year? Because we know what's frustrating here.
There's two things for sure. I know that Sean Payton's
boys with Darren Rizzy Darren Rizzy's been awful this year.
I can't count the number of Special Teams mistakes that
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they have made. And it's a killer, or at least
it should have been it should have. How many times
did the Texans come away with points which should have
been like touchdowns because your special teams put them in
miserable position. I mean, at the end of the half,
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you get the three and out, you're gonna get the
ball back with like forty seconds left for the chance
to score before halftime, and Michael Bandy muff's a punt
that gets the the Texans an extra three points. By
the way, some of the things that went down in
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this game the highlights. The guy who I thought played
the best and there wasn't anybody particularly close, was Zach Gallen.
And on that final drive when Zach Allen went down
with an injury, thankfully it was nothing. But all I
could think to myself is if you lose Zach Allen
for an extended period of time because you muffed the
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punt at the end of half, and that's already compounded
upon like three other special teams mistakes that were made
in the middle of that game. I have no idea
how if they were so quick to fire the special
teams coach last year that I can't even remember his name,
it was Ben Cotek. Cut Weeka fired him last year
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because of the debacle at the end of that Kansas
City game where you just had linemen falling over and
pretending that was going to be you know, blocking special teams. Wise,
you get the field goal block, you lose to KZ.
How many different mistakes are you gonna stomach now? Because
this is bad? But more than that, here's what it's
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like really frustrating to me about a Broncos win. I
still I have to keep this perspective, but I'm sure
most of you are feeling the same way I am.
What's the offensive plan? What are you trying to accomplish?
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And this is why I took last week's game with
Dallas with like a salt licks level of salt, because
I didn't think, like, I don't want to take this
all away from the Broncos offense. They were great last week,
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but Dallas's defense made it way more easy. And when
you're playing against what is like the number one defense
in the league, what's your game plan moving into it?
And here's what I noticed. I noticed Sean Payton returning
to a lot of old habits that are bad. I
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noticed beginning of the game JK. Dobbins running the football
pretty effective, and then literally for like two straight quarters,
had no idea if he touched the ball again, and
it all just disappears. You keep looking at this, and
I know that Jeff Flagwold mentions this all the time,
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but it's the truth. There is a league wide problem,
but especially with Sean Payton of if a running play
doesn't work once, he doesn't go back to it. And
yet I looked at bo Nick's stat line where he
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was six of seventeen at the end of that first half.
I'm like, you're willing to continue to throw the ball
when bad things are happening. Texas says you act like
the Texans defense isn't good and has done that to
almost every offense they played this year. I just mentioned
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that the number one defense in league. There's a difference
though the Broncos and what they did on offense against
the Texans is not a unique outlier to the season.
That is what mostly this season has been. I would
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be able to excuse that if they had a bad game.
They've had bad games, which then probably more easily translates
to they just aren't very good on offense, and then
what do you do with that? That's all I'm saying.
And again to their credit, something happens in the fourth
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fourth quarter starts. Let's make an eight yard sixty one
year or eight play sixty one yard drive for a
touchdown and get the two point conversion of tight things up.
Now after that was three and out, three and out.
But all I'm saying is there's a lot of things
that I think look like they work within that offense.
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Why they don't They don't want to run it once
again at the end of the game. Bo Nick's running
the football works, But why is it always at the
end save it for the middle. I don't know why
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there's this hesitancy to not go with things that seem
like they work. And I think it's because they're they're boring,
or maybe you think you're running a risk by having
bo Nicks take off. But I'll tell you this, and
tell me if you've noticed it too. There's a lot
of times on like third downs, where it feels like
bo Nix has a lot of space in front of
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him to run and he's about to take off, but
then he'll let a pass go. And I don't know
if that is him trying to prove a point that
he's he doesn't need his legs to be effective. I mean,
I don't know why there's some sort of pejorative or
negative aura around guys who can run. It's a weapon.
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Now Again, guys like beating the Houston Texans, it's a
good win. Like the Houston Texans. Are they great? No,
they're three and five now, but they're a really tough defense. No,
they limit most teams that they play against to nothing offensively.
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It's just kind of what they do. It's how they're built.
They're really well coached team with Tamiko Ryans. And again,
I think I'd be willing to have this ease my
worries a little bit more if this were the outlier
to the season as opposed to what the constant is.
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And I I apologize if some people don't like my
tone this morning. As the text says, my god, it's
always so negative with you. Did you see all the
upset yes up? All the upsets yesterday? Like your Lions
take a win in this league. Regardless of course you
take it, you're talking to my guy all wrong. It's
wrong tone. The feeling that you're hearing from me is
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an honest one. I'm not gonna fake it and say
you got the greatest team ever. If I don't feel
that way. And I've always said this from the beginning.
Whatever you think about what I'm saying, no one thing
for sure. It's coming from a true and honest place.
And what I want to know from the Broncos is
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if they're different from last year. That's all I'm trying
to figure out. There is no doubt about this. I
was saying this all of last season. You have a
really good football team. I don't know if they're great,
And that's what I'm trying to suss out.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Here.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Are they finding ways to win which is a change
from last year? Absolutely, But this feels a lot like
I'll go back to the beginning of the season when
I was talking about a different team that we know
is a good football team, a great football team, and
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I said, if the Kansas City Chiefs think they can
play this one score game, we always win.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It's not sustainable. Their record in one score games last
year was eleven and zero, and I'm like, that ain't
possible to continue that year over year. You know what
the record is this year in one score games? Do
you know what? Off the top of your head in
elly so and four they've lost all of them because
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it's not a sustainable way to live. I'm watching the
Broncos do this, and I'm all I'm thinking to myself
is this isn't sustainable, That's all. And I would like
opportunities in which if you're playing a team like the
Houston Texans whose quarterback CJ. Stroud leaves the game in
the middle of it with a concussion. God, that was
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a big hit. I would have liked to see take
that game by the balls a little bit more. That's
all I'm saying. So it's it's it's an a valuation
tool I'm trying to use because I want to know.
If these Broncos can do this in the postseason, They're
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gonna be a playoff team. There's no doubt about that now.
But I think there's a lack of offensive discipline that is
not going to translate well. I think there is an
absolute absence of special teams play that will kill you
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in a postseason game. I wanted to see the Broncos
from last year to this year graduate to that category
and it hasn't happened yet. For again, there's plenty of
good from the game, and we will talk about it.
But I think you're lying to yourself if you said,
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for three hours yesterday you were having fun watching the
Broncos play, You're happy at the end, and they deserve
credit for again closing out a game in which they're
down in the fourth quarter, and I give them full
credit for it. But you can't tell me, Nelly. Let
me ask you midway through the third quarter, how'd you feel?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
I thought it was deja vous all over again. I
thought the Broncos were just gonna keep shooting themselves in
the foot over and over and over and over again.
I mean, I saw somebody I can't remember who it was.
Maybe it was it was Troy Rink, one of these
people who covered the Broncos in town. I saw them
making a list of every single special teams Blunder I
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know from the game up to that point, and it
was longer than my arm. I genuinely couldn't believe it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
All I'm saying is again, take whatever you want from this.
I'm gonna shoot you straight and tell you how I feel.
And there's plenty more to talk about. Three oh three, five,
four nine two five shop mos de Tech signed one price,
one person, one hour at is a rally house victory
Monday back after this.
Speaker 7 (15:01):
Yeah, we'll look at that on film, follow that without
without watching on tape. My my my concern was just
the late subs. It was a little bit sloppy in
the kicking game. We'll get that cleaned up or we'll
find someone else that can do it.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Sean Payton after the game Broncos win against the Houston
Texans in Houston. That makes six straight for the Denver Broncos,
six straight, tied for the AFC for best record in
the league. There's a there's a heavy mix here, heavy
(15:41):
mix that I'm seeing on the text line of stop
complaining about a win, also people saying I think the
complaints that you're airing out valid here is can I
just give you the crux of where this is stemming
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from and I'll make a comparison back to like where
the Nuggets were last year heading into this year. If
the Nuggets are tied after I guess it's halfway through
the season. If they're tied in mid January early February
for best record in the Western Conference, but the bench
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looked just as bad as it did last year, and
they're overtaxing nicolea Jokic again and Jamal Murray does not
look great and you're suffering some of the same issues
that you did from the previous season. What would you
do with that information? Would you say nothing to see here,
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team keeps winning, don't care. Would you wonder why aren't
things a little bit better? Because that would be the
guy I would be wondering, why does it still kind
of look the same from last year? And does that
mean we're getting a similar result If the Nuggets this
year had their starting five and one guy off the
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bench that you trusted and that was kind of it again.
And that's just kind of how I feel about the
Broncos right now. It's not that I'm not It's not
that I'm like pissed. They keep winning. Like winning is good,
tied for best in the AFC halfway through the year. Good,
ability to close out games good. But during this win
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streak that they're on the last six, let me just
point something out to you. In the Eagles game, the
Broncos hang on one second. In the Eagles game, which
was five games ago, the Broncos had three points through
the first three quarters and up winning. In the Jets game,
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the Broncos had three points in the final three quarters,
still ended up winning that game. In the Giants game,
the Broncos had zero points through the first three quarters
ended up winning that game. And in the Texans game,
they had seven points through the first three quarters and
ended up winning that game. I think that says a
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lot about their ability to close. I am also wondering
what's happening. Why is it that long of extended stretches
of play with little to no offense, and that going
against some better teams in the league is not going
to be sustainable, which is why my concerns are where
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they are. That's all I'm talking about. If you do
that against Kansas City and you get matched up in
a wild card round in the playoffs, can you win
that way? My guess is probably not. And beyond that,
I think they're better than that. That's most of the
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reason why I'm frustrated. They're capable of being better, and
if they do get better on offense, you're talking about
potentially the best team in the NFL, because there really
isn't There isn't a team that can make that claim
right now. You get better, more consistent offense, this team
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could win a Super Bowl this year. So the question is,
why is it like this? Why are we here? You
continue to win football games. It's a very very good thing.
But I'm pointing out things in the offense that I
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just don't quite understand. I think they block really well
in the run game, for whatever reason, they got away
from it yesterday. I think that Sean Payton has been
mostly better in that category over the course of this season,
but got away from him yesterday because Dobbins was running
the ball really effectively early in the game and then
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it was just kind of like that disappeared. I don't
know why they don't run bo Nicks more. I mean,
I don't know how many times I've said this this year.
I think there's only like three, maybe four guys in
the league that run the ball better than him from
that position. Just are it? Man? It's Lamar Josh Allen
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would have said Jayden Daniels, but now he's done for
the year. Looks like, I don't know how many guys
run the ball better than him, and it's a super
effective weapon. They do it at the end of the
game and he picks up what was that, Nelly a
thirty five yard run to put them in a field
goal position to win the game, and you're like, what,
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we'll do that more it works and inconsistencies in the
past game or just I know that you guys felt
the same way I did. The same way I did
on the touchdown of Sutton. The play previously was what
wide open Evan Ingram for a touchdown that the ball
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sailed on him, And all I can think to myself is,
you can't miss plays like that against a defense like
this because you don't know how many opportunities you're gonna
get with somebody that wide open. And the very next
play is that dime to Courtland Sutton and I go, well, now,
what how are you? How do you miss the wide
open guy? But then Courtland Sutton's got a dude that's
basically on his hip, on the back side of his hip,
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and you drop it perfectly in the bucket. That's what's frustrating.
Why it's in there, That's why we know it. I
know it. And if it's in there more, then you
could be winning a super Bowl. Trust me, this isn't
complaining to complain. This is recognizing how good this team
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can be. That's that's where this is coming. From uh
three oh three, five oh four oh nine two five.
It's it's almost like it's the it's the opposite of
I don't know, whatever tone you think is coming out here,
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it's the opposite of that. It's not even anger. It's like,
this could be so much easier. You have to take
the hard path. But again, six straight dubs, best record
in the AFC, You're making the playoffs. That's happening. So
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three O three five oh four oh nine two five.
I I would be more than welcome if somebody wants
to call and tell me why I'm incorrect on this.
But maybe my perspective is off, maybe it's wrong, but
the phone lines are open as well. Three h three
five four oh nine two five. There's plenty more that
we're gonna get into from over the weekend. Got to
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talk about another loss in Boulder that looked kind of
the same as the week prior, along with the Abs
and Nuggets and what they did over the weekend. But
I just I don't I don't know what other perspective
I could sit here, I guess and talk about how
good they are closing out games in the fourth quarter,
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because that is totally true. I mean they are very
very effective at end of games now, which is a
giant improvement from the year previous. And I think like
one of the sole reasons why you are where you
are this year is that when it matters most, you
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seem to play your best football offensively and defensively. And
Texas says that it feels like the twenty fifteen Broncos
all over again. I got or I did this last week.
I laid out the numbers side by side, the twenty
fifteen defense to the twenty five defense, the twenty fifteen
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offense to the twenty twenty five offense. They're virtually identical,
like exact same teams. And again, I wasn't here in
twenty fifteen. I didn't live through that every single week.
I didn't know what the feelings were every week when
the Broncos had that team. And maybe it's really similar.
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I have no idea, but let's I said, if somebody's
got a reason to tell me that I'm wrong or
I'm looking to change my mind, I don't want to
be the guy who's off on Nyland by himself, the
crazy person yelling at walls and windows. Let's go to
Adrian was on with us Hi.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Adrian, Hey guys, good morning. Thanks for having me on
Brett Brett. I love you, man, but you're just I
don't know what's going on with you today. Okay, No,
definitely tell me. This looks a lot like that twenty
fifteen team, as you mentioned kind of in this lid up,
and it does make sense that you weren't around for it.
You also weren't around for twenty thirteen when Peyton Manning
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broke the single season touchdown passing record and the Broncos
got absolutely fleeced in the Super Bowl. Yeah, by the Seahawks.
So there's a different races to skin this cat, Brett,
and this defense right now does look a lot like
that twenty fifteen team. You said it yourself. Broncos offense
is making plays when they need to and what if
they're holding some of the stuff close to the vest,
because guess what, they're winning without showing any of their
(25:47):
cards according to you.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
Now, So yeah, let's see what happens, all right, Adrian,
thanks for the call. I mean, look, the twenty I
don't want this team to be the twenty thirteen defense
because if the twenty thirteen team, if that was them,
I think we'd be talking a lot about why can't
you stop anybody? And that could be a problem. Now.
(26:10):
Winning the way that you're winning now and winning the
way that the twenty fifteen team won, I think is
very very difficult to sustain. What are you giggling about
back there? Man?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
I love the passion that Adrian had his voice. There
was almost a little shaking in his voice, like he
was about ready to cry.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Brett, I don't you don't understand.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
This is Broncos team.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Brett. I just I don't know. Look, I could just
be maybe I'm wrong. I don't know, but it's how
I feel, and how I feel is that style of
offense does not seem sustainable to me. And you can
point back to twenty fifteen as an example of yes
(26:56):
that worked. I could point to plenty of teams with
great defenses, bad offenses that didn't win Super Bowls, and
I don't I again, I don't want to. I don't
want to make it seem like I was the first
one to tell you I thought the Broncos were good
last year, like they're a good football team. I didn't
(27:17):
know if they were great last season. And basically what
I saw from the Buffalo game was My fear is
that they're a good team, but they aren't quite good
enough to compete with the big dogs. Yet they're better
than that now they are able to compete. I think
if they face the Bills in the first round of
the playoffs again this year, it's not thirty one to seven,
(27:39):
But but is that a possibility? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Maybe?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
All right? A couple more here, Jesse, go ahead, Jesse
wants to yell at Brett, go ahead, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Well, Brett.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
I hate to say it, but for once I asked, kind.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Of agree with you.
Speaker 9 (28:01):
Two things.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Sean Payton, when he talks to the media, he always
talks down to the media. He acts like he's so
much smarter than everybody else, But he has the most
undisciplined team in the NFL right now, and he needs
to clean up his own house before he talks to
everybody else like they're stupid. Also, when you run the
(28:24):
ball that well, why are we doing these stupid bubble
screens over and over?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
You know what?
Speaker 9 (28:30):
The difference between the first three quarters and the fourth
quarter is.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
They stop running stupid bubble screens and actually do something else.
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Yeah, that's all.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I got, all right, Jesse. Thanks. I'll say this, I've
just gone to accept the bubble screen thing because I
can't yell about that every single week. I'm just like, Okay,
So it's part of his offense, it's what he wants
to do. I don't mind if if he runs that,
as long as he does the things that you do well.
And he got away from the running game.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
In you.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
What's really weird, Nelly, is that he'll get away from
the running game in games where I feel like running
the ball mattered most, which is low scoring games. Did
you see one of the most remarkable things about that
game and remarkably frustrating. Did you see the time of
possession at the end of the first half in a
(29:23):
half of football, the Broncos in the first half possessed
it for seven minutes and twenty one seconds because beyond
like the first drive, they wouldn't. They refuse to run it.
And that's how you get that skewed number. There's only
one way that really happens. Let's go to William next. Hello, William, Hey.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
Bratt, long time no talk. He So I'm going to
stick up for you. I do not understand people, and
basically what I'm going to say is you're being a homer.
If you're watching this team and you're saying to yourself, well,
everything is perfect, I can see absolutely nothing wrong because
in twenty fifteen the Broncos went on this epic run
(30:08):
that nobody expected was going to finish that way. That
it was an anomaly. It is not something that happens
all the time. If this team does that, fantastic, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
It's okay to sit.
Speaker 9 (30:19):
There at the end of the day and go, this
wasn't great.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
That wasn't great.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
I mean, what are we gonna do on a Monday
just sit around and go, everything's perfect, everything's fantastic. I mean,
is this a Lego video? I mean to sing that song?
I don't know, but it wasn't great. It's okay to
break it down, and I appreciate your perspective. Oh I'm
bout to thank you, thank thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
William. All I'm saying is this, like, I don't there's
an in between here. The Broncos are good. They do
a lot of things really well. Obviously, their defense is
incredibly effective and good, no doubt, they're really good at
closing games out. I mean, and part of me at
the end of the game. When the Broncos had the
(30:55):
football last possession of the fourth quarter fifty seconds left
throughout the thirty six yard line, I almost felt like
it was a foregone conclusion that they would find themselves
in field goal range with a chance to win. And
(31:15):
that says something about them. I do also think they
got a lot of things that if they don't get
better at, is gonna bite them in the ass, that's all.
And I've been more focused. This is a fair criticism.
I've been more focused on the bad stuff as opposed
(31:37):
to the good stuff, because the bad stuff is the
stuff we wanted to see corrected year over year that
were halfway through the year, and it looks the same,
if not maybe a little bit worse now. One thing's
absolutely correct. They're pretty undisciplined in a lot of the
(32:02):
categories that you need to be disciplined on, which is
special teams, which is penalties. Denver averages eight penalties a game.
That's twenty ninth in the league, twenty ninth special teams
problems combined with penalty issues will be killers. So again,
(32:29):
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Speaker 10 (33:08):
We knew it was gonna be a patient game. Uh
you know, they don't leave the league in yards and
points for no reason. They're a good team. It's not
by you know, a fluke. So we knew it was
gonna be tough sledding. But I thought we did a
good job managing, you know, the situations, and we played
a little bit of a field position battle there at
the very end, and we knew it was a matter
(33:30):
of time too. There was just a drive that you know,
we went down and scored and had a big win
in the first half, big win in the second half,
and then led to the field goal there at the end,
so we knew it wasn't gonna be easy, but we
also knew our defense was gonna play really well like
they did, and so they changed the game for us,
and they pretty much led the entire game, and uh
made stop after stop so that we could go down
(33:51):
and finish the game.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
It's BOEXX after the game Rally House Football Monday on
Altitude Sports Radio. Rally House Shop every team in town,
so a lot more to discuss throughout the course of
the show today surrounding the Broncos, football in general, Nuggets,
and ass. It's one more call though, from Tyson, who's
(34:13):
on with us.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Hi, Tyson, hey man, how you doing.
Speaker 8 (34:16):
Good morning, Happy Monday.
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Hey.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
I just you know, I think you're dead on about
special teams being a concern. There's a lack of discipline there.
But the reason I'm calling is there were so many
opportunities for Bo to take off and run with daylight
ahead of him. There was a couple instances where he's
basically straddling the line of scrimmage throwing the ball down field.
(34:40):
There was a at least once it was almost picked off,
but there were several times that looked like he would
have picked up the first down yep with no problem
at all.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
So my question I've wondered to myself, is this a
Bonnicks thing where he's trying to prove that he is
a vertical passer. Is it something he's working on in
his own skill skill set? Is it being coached to him,
you know, by Sean Payton. Is that something that they're
telling him, don't do you need to work? I don't
know what. I just want to see what your take
(35:10):
is and and wonder why what is do you think
that's keeping him Tyson?
Speaker 2 (35:14):
I think it's it's a great call. I've had the
same questions because there was multiple times on third down
where he had opened space in front of him, could
have ran for the first down and tried to fit,
you know, a throw into a tight window. There's one
to Sutton, I do recall the one you're talking about
that was almost picked off where I was watching about
a couple of bodies. We all said the same thing,
it's why aren't you taken off and just getting the
(35:36):
first down and moving the chains? And I suppose, like
the real answer is, I don't know, but there is
to me a look about bow Knicks when he's in
the pocket right now that I think he is so
fiercely loyal to bow Nicks and wants to mask or
(35:58):
I'm sorry to uh, Sean Payton, and wants to master
his offense so much that I've thought that bo has
been really overthinking as opposed to reacting, because he wants
to run the offense in such a perfect way. Sean
(36:18):
Payton is very much somebody who is you know, We've
mentioned this before. He's the scientist and he says, I
got a formula that works, and if you execute the
formula properly, then the offense is going to go. And
so I think he's trying to do that to such
perfection that sometimes he either forgets or doesn't want to
(36:38):
run some off script off script stuff because he wants
to be so perfect within the offense. You know, when
when Sean Payton last year had that quote about he's
got some fairis Bueller in him, I don't know if
that was a compliment to him, and I think he
was like, when you start to do stuff that are
(37:00):
off script and create your own plays, that's what I
hated about Russell Wilson. And it's like, but if he's
got that ability to take off an open space and
move the chains, and who cares, I git there let
him do that. So I think this is a lot
about I could be wrong, but my read on it
(37:21):
is he just wants to be a really good soldier
for his general, and as general said, hey, we're gonna
go do this, sends you out on a mission and
you're like, maybe it would be better if we went
this other route, but this is how the boss said
to do things. So I think it's if I had
(37:43):
to guess, it's out of fierce loyalty to the Sean
Payton offense that he's trying to execute as opposed to
doing his own thing. But I would tell him there
has to be an in between. You have a god
given ability to take off with speed in open space.
(38:05):
That very rare. It's a very rare trait for quarterbacks,
and not a lot have that. You know, if I
got Justin Fields as my quarterback. Granted, bo Nicks is better,
but if I had Justin Fields, I wouldn't tell him
don't run. I would actually say, if you find space,
(38:28):
you take off every time, because it's going to net
something positive. So that's my best guess at it out
of anything other than that, I really don't know. Now again,
you're a seven and two football team. You lead the
division over halfway through the year. This is what we
(38:49):
all begged for when the season started. Do the Broncos
have an ability to win this division? And I think
as you continue to watch, are there good teams? Are
there great teams in your own division? Yes? Kansas City
is one of those, But that slow start to the
year mixed into this loss. If they beat Buffalo, then
(39:11):
you were really in for some nervous times. But you've
now got a little bit of a cushion to work
with between you and Kansas City, a two game cushion.
You beat them in a couple of weeks. I mean,
you're you're so far ahead of the game that you're
(39:32):
probably just looking towards what the Chargers are doing after that.
And the Chargers, who to their credit dealing with a
lot of injuries, have won three of their last four,
just had Joe alt carted off yesterday, So they're dealing
with the two missing tackle thing again. And the last
time they dealt with that earlier in the year is
when the losses came. You're in a really really good spot.
(39:58):
Nine weeks into the season. You should take care of
the Raiders this Thursday, which would put you at eight,
and if you can steal a win the week after
that Kansas City. I mean you're talking about not just
winning the division, perhaps contending for the number one spot
in the AFC. Now, one thing I think that was
(40:25):
really impressive yesterday, really impressive. The defense was put in
some terrible positions I mean awful, but at the beginning
of the game. So it's a missed field goal for
the Texans that you combined with your kick getting blocked
(40:53):
and it was returned to the forty one yard line.
Give up a couple of first downs, they get to
the goal line at the one and the fact that
you had absolutely created a brick wall in front of
that goal line. Then penalty on fourth down by the
Texans nets a field goal. Beautiful Once again, you go
(41:14):
out a few drives later, bo Nicks throws the interception
the ball that he just floated a little bit too much,
allowed the safety to run underneath it. You get another
stop right at the goal line at the two yard line,
force a hold, they have to settle for a field goal.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Again.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Those are winning football plays. That's a winning sequence. How
did you win the football game? There? Special teams in
offense put your defense in terrible position and they step
up stonewall the opposing team at the goal line twice
and hold them to three points as opposed to six.
(41:51):
Because we all kind of saw touchdowns are going to
be really tough to come by. But that's what's huge,
And I thought Zach Allen was the star of the
football game. He absolutely decimate everything that we've kind of
heard about that offensive line in Houston, that they were vulnerable.
He exploited every vulnerability, pressure up, the mental, constant harassment,
(42:17):
tipping balls, that the line is scrimmage, all of it.
I thought he was fantastic. A lot more to talk
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