0:00 - Uh oh...the studio gremlins woke up early this morning. Eventually, let's talk about something the Broncos haven't had since they won the Super Bowl: continuity.
13:50 - Brett's tall and struggles to fit comfortably on planes. Also, Memphis asked to join the Big 12 and offered up $250 million as a bargaining chip...and the Big 12 told them to pound sand. Sheesh.
31:42 - The Bengals and Shemar Stewart still haven't agreed on a contract. Yesterday, Mike Brown explained his side of the story and what the hangup is.
13:50 - Brett's tall and struggles to fit comfortably on planes. Also, Memphis asked to join the Big 12 and offered up $250 million as a bargaining chip...and the Big 12 told them to pound sand. Sheesh.
31:42 - The Bengals and Shemar Stewart still haven't agreed on a contract. Yesterday, Mike Brown explained his side of the story and what the hangup is.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Caine on demand.
Check out Brett weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
Radio nine, Eat two five and on the Altitude Sports
Radio app.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's weird, So, Brett, you've you've turned your mic on.
You've turned it on and you're talking and nothing, nothing's happening.
That's weird. The gremlins are alive and well, let's see,
let try a different mike. Nothing from that studio appears
to be coming through. That is strange.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I've never actually seen this problem before, so it just
appears to be nothing from that studio at all. I
guess this is.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
A new one, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm glad we can get all these technical gremlins out
of the way before training camp starts because nothing's coming through.
For those of you who who can't see what's going on,
Brett is running around the studio trying every mic on
his side to get something to come through the board,
and nothing's coming through the board. This is this is
this is good though. I'm like, I'm like mojer, I
(01:13):
can practice my play by play and Kane is coming
through the door. He's coming through the hallway. He's gonna
come into the studio where I am, and are you
gonna try and use that mic there? I yeah, see
if you can use that mic at the back of
the studio, there's a place for you to plug in
your headphones and then you can just whip that one around.
I know. This is riveting radio. Hi everyone, Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
So we're doing all of this on the fly. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hey there he is. What's up, Brit It's just you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Know, sometimes I like to get a view from this side.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So uh, all right, now that we're here, I'll figure
all the rest of the stuff out later.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We'll figure it out later.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You can see me right behind Nelly and that camera
over there. Uh, here's where I wanted to start. It's
funny you mentioned training camp, cause that's kind of where
I wanted to go. I mean, it's right around the corner.
And the Broncos have something right now that they haven't
had since twenty fourteen. And I'll tell you exactly what
(02:12):
that is. It's the same coach and quarterback combo for
a second year. Not once have they returned the same
coach and quarterback year over year since twenty fourteen. And
with that information, you think, well, let's be honest here,
(02:36):
how much of that really matters well, the answers to Todd,
you know, keeping roster, turnover keeping, coordinator, turnover keeping, coach.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Quarterback, all of that stuff. It's massive.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You can't really put a number on the idea of
consistency and building things over years.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Think about this like dating. You know how difficult it would.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Be to try and build some long lasting, big relationship
if you're just bouncing around on tender every two weeks.
You have to have the time to build the relationship,
to understand the people that you're with. And I've seen
(03:28):
a lot of stuff regarding bo Nix and Sean Payton
in general. So we got some audio we'll get to
later today. One is Sean Payton and.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A very.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Complementary Colin Cowherd. Again, most of the time when Cowherd
is talking about Sean Payton, it's going to be good things.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
They're boys.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They became boys the second that Sean Payton started working
for Sports. The bow Nicks stuff, there is a conversation
surrounding him in particular, that is, it's there's not really
an in between with bo Nicks. You either like him
and you think he's gonna be good or you think
he's a complete sort of scheme merchant that Sean Payton
(04:18):
has built into.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
A viable quarterback in the league.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
So, like I said, we'll get to some audio on
this later, but Bomani Jones was talking about this. Even
if you believe that bo Nix is someone that gets
to take advantage of a Sean Payton system and the
stuff that is I guess most levied criticism wise at
(04:50):
bo Nicks and his ability is this when you look
at numbers and all. A lot of these came early
in last season. But people will tell you that he
throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage a lot,
and he certainly did early in the year. I think
(05:11):
that was a way of that was like easing the
rookie quarterbacks sort of career. When he's starting Week one,
how do we make it easiest as possible for this
guy to build confidence and just get positive yardage. If
that's what you want to throw at him, then fine, fine,
(05:37):
it's not as if it didn't. It wasn't a thing
last year because it was. The difference is this later
in the year that started to change a bit. He
took more shots downfield, but more than anything else, what
happens surrounding bo Nicks and throwing the football for the Broncos,
(05:59):
to me is very simple.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
If you felt that way last year.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
That it was sort of a dink and dounk, guy's
gonna pitter patter his way down the field with two
yard throws or throws behind the line of scrimmage and
let his quote playmakers make something happen. If that's how
you felt, well, guess what everything is coming back this year.
(06:26):
But there have been improvements at virtually every position. Every
position has gotten to the point to where tight end improved.
The only one you could say is maybe wide receiver
that hasn't. I know they added Pat Bryan. I don't
know how big of a fixture he's gonna be in
(06:47):
the offense this year, but certainly got better at running back.
When you have those kind of things that are helping more,
when you're gonna find yourself. Even if you thought the
offense was a little too vanilla last year, just by
having more playmakers on the field, it's gonna make a difference. Look,
(07:13):
I don't know what bow Nix's ceiling is, and when
you don't have somebody that is generational, and I don't
believe he's that, but I think he's good enough. When
you don't have somebody generational, you need to do some
things to help. That means surrounding him with the proper personnel.
(07:33):
That means it's giving him a good offensive line, and
that means giving him a scheme that works for him.
You know, there's a big conversation surrounding Jalen Hurts, and
I think I'm more in the camp. And I don't
even mean this disrespectfully, but I think Jalen Hurts is
(07:57):
way more of a bow Knix type than he.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Is a Ma Homes type.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Jalen Hurts is way more of a Joe Flacco type
than Tom Brady type. But Jalen Hurts, with the right
and proper pieces surrounding him, makes the Eagles a super
Bowl contender and a super Bowl champion, and he probably
(08:22):
will for a while. Like I don't think that Jalen
Hurts is the kind of guy that you say, you
gotta go win us a football game and he can
do it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
The amount of times last year that it was Saquon
Saquon Barkley with an eighty five yard run to ice
a game. I mean it's huge. Everybody's showing the highlights.
Oh yeah, you can't throw? How about this throw from
the Super Bowl? I'm like the bomb when they were
up thirty points and it didn't matter anymore. Not impressed.
(08:54):
But the point is, if you're an Eagles fan, it
shouldn't even bother you because he's the right guy for
your team right now.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
If they got to the point where they lose this
offensive line, that they don't have Saquon going for two
thousand yards, that they don't have a defense that's able
to hold like everybody to sixteen points, then.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Maybe the.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Perception surrounding him changes. But at this point, who cares.
At this point, you're a super Bowl champ and that
you have a very good chance to defend that next
year with the roster that you've built, and I pray
(09:40):
the Broncos get to that place, like I want so
badly for the Broncos to be I would love to
have the conversation after the Broncos win a couple of
playoff games. Yeah, but bo Nicks, is he really the
reason for it? Because my answer is going to be
the same.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Who gives it? Dam does it matter.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
But all of this if you're talking about scheme, and
scheme is the reason why bo Nicks looked good last year,
and scheme is the reason why his numbers look the
way that they did well. The scheme is staying the
same and the personnel just got better. No, it's gonna be,
at least for me, a sort of theme of the day,
(10:25):
because again, when it comes down to Sean Payton, when
it comes down to bow Nicks, and everybody seems to
have a different sort of thought.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
On this stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The general consensus of what I've seen from talking heads
and air quote ball knowers around football is that Sean
Payton is really smart, and he's so smart that he
makes bo Nix look good. But I see bo Nicks
as somebody that I mean, you can't say that bo
(11:06):
Nicks doesn't have ability, because he's got some of the
intangible stuff, or maybe not intangible, but the gifted from
God's stuff that others just don't. His athletic ability is
as good as almost anybody in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I mean, say for Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He can take off with his legs and make something
happen like most quarterbacks can't. And your ability to buy
more time and extend plays is incredibly important now in
the league. But you combine all of that with a
wealth of experience that he got from college. And I'll
be the first one to tell you when I watched
(11:52):
him in college, I wasn't overly impressed. The numbers were
insane at Oregon, and I'll be the first one I
want to tell you that whenever an Oregon quarterback kind
of goes through the system, I get very hesitant about
what to do with that. I did the same thing
with Marcus Mariota. I'm like, it is, it's the same
(12:15):
thing we're talking about now. It's such a system built
product that I think, no matter who's under center, can't
help but rack up some insane stats. Now, I go
back to sort of bo Nick's time at Auburn, when
it was like it was fine, but I was skeptical.
(12:36):
But I'm not gonna argue with results like who gets
the credit for it? You get credit for things when
they go well. And I don't really care if it's
Sean Payton or it's bow Nix. I just wanted to continue.
You know, if a chef, if you get a really
good meal let a restaurant, and it wasn't made by
(12:59):
the chef.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was made by the Sioux chef because the head
chef was on break or whatever. Who cares.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Whatever system you guys got going back there in the
kitchen is working. That's all I'm concerned with. So we
can get back to this with some audio a little
bit later. Three oh three, five oh four oh nine
two five shop maz to text line one price, one person,
one hour.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I don't there's there's a story.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
That's going around in the NBA in one in college
football that I'm gonna tie together, and both of them
are just like, it's almost the worst possible position you
can be when you really put yourself out there and
get denied. And I want to get to that in
(13:48):
just a couple of minutes. Instagram, turn me on, Turn
me on. I can't control my own see Nellie, I
don't know how many of these. I don't know how
many these you've had before, where it's it's an odd
thing being the first one to hit the on button
every morning, because any issues that you have in that studio, hey,
(14:11):
you're responsible for now getting fixed.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I remember when we first moved into this new building.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We had everyone well, and I was still doing demp
Scene Company, so I didn't come on till ten am, right,
So I would come in here and Marty would just
look like he'd run one of his one hundred miles
super marathons and he'd go Bretts. Mike wasn't working, and
we couldn't get the lights to turn on, and our
commercial breaks didn't play, and like you guys would just
pull the short straw every single morning for about a month.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yep, you know there was Actually I've I've had like
two different instances where I've done a full show in
the same studio.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Not with you yet, but I've done like two when
Marty was here.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And I think at that time that was still like
maybe early twenty twenty one, so Vick and Mose were
doing the show from home.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm still but yeah, we're the guinea pigs.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I appreciate, appreciate all of my people that listen at
six o'clock in the morning, because you guys get to
suffer through the same problems we do. I'm sure the
same thing happens when you guys get to work. Your
computer doesn't turn on, something like that you get to
the cubicle, maybe you get to the construction site.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
The jackhammer was left unplugged the night before. I don't
know this works.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh yeah, h those those bluetooth powered jackhammers.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know what I mean? The Okay, So I'll give
you an example. Guys.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I know they have a forklift and they have to
use the forklift like every day. But somebody left the
forklift unplugged the night before, and so no forklifting was done.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Uh AnyWho.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
This is very weird, by the way, because you're you're
directly behind me in the same room as me on
that mic, and so unless I turn around, I can't
see you.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So it's just like I like talking to the back
of somebody said, It's like I'm yelling at somebody on
an airline that's like in front of me, the seat
in front.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's like, why you were climbing your seat.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Pal.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It just feels like it feels like the voice of
God is telling me about bo Nick's year two, just
from somewhere in the distance.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I know that everybody gets riled up about this.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
This is one of those those things that I have
that I just I don't know how many people are
six foot three and two hundred pounds. When somebody reclines
their seat into me and you drop the I'm allowed
to do it, it says it on the ticket. Yeah,
but it's rude. Take If it's a child behind you,
then have ad take take your your space. I'm tall
(16:31):
and i have long legs, and I'm already mushed in.
And if your response to me is we'll pay more
money for that, no, how about no?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
How about we just be kind to each other.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think there's definitely a middle ground. Speaking as a
short man who fits perfectly into every plane seat, there
was one time I reclined my seat. You know, I'm
a plane sleeper. I like to I like my nappy time. Yeah,
and I reclined my seat and then I just felt
stuff in my lower in my lower back, I felt
lumps in my lunbar, like it was one of those
(17:02):
like it was one of those massage chairs. And it
sounded like it felt like the guy behind me was
just having a hell of a time. So I turned
around and I I just I said, hey, man, you okay,
and he goes, no, I'm sorry, I'm I'm six or five,
and there's just no room, dude, yeah, could you please
unrecline your chair said, not a problem, just just be
just be a decent human check in on each other.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I want to punch you. You would have gotten the
idea real quick. Okay. So here's the deal. Yeah, I'm
gonna say it. So when.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Malik Beasley got hit with the the gambling stuff, and
I like Malik, Malik seems to have some trouble in
his personal life.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think that he was. He was a good kid.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
He just he's one of those guys like you always
got wrapped up in something. There was another guy being
investigated by the way the same time. It was Malie
Beasley and Terry Rogier. Let me ask you, like, if
you get hit with the gambling stuff in that sport,
that's brutal. It's a lifetime ban, and it should be.
(18:16):
Terry Rosier was investigated and the conclusion they came to
was that he didn't. Now I'm gonna tell you why.
I think that's worse. Nelly, hear me out on this
lifetime ban from the sport.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But if you're being investigated, that means you're playing so
badly that somebody said to themselves, he's gotta have money
against this team, and the conclusion they came to was
that he didn't He's just bad.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well do you remember do you remember the name of
a pitcher. There was some some baseball pitcher that just
got investigated like a month ago, and there were two
particular pitches that some betting integrity group were investigating and
and the internet was was like, if this goes belly up,
if this investigation proves nothing, that means this dude through
two pitches that were so bad. Yeah, that an independent
(19:21):
third party organization thought, oh, he had to intentionally do
those right, tip off everybody that right, that's that the
bet is on and that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
So because of that, I have another question for you.
What's the question.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Is it better to be rejected or never asked at all?
I'm not talking about your your Sadie Howkins sophomore dance. Okay,
The University of Memphis went to the Big Twelve hat
in hand and on their knees and they said, please,
(20:04):
I will give you two hundred and fifty million dollars
if you let me join this conference. And the Big
Twelve said, take that l.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
On the way out now, we're good.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Don't need that. I want you to think about that
for a second, offered them two hundred and fifty million
dollars to join a conference that is uninterested in you
(20:41):
buy their way into a conference. That's worse because where
do you go from there? Like Memphis and a whole
bunch of other schools, they see the riding on the
wall that if you weren't part of at a minimum,
the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
The SEC, the Big twelve, or the ACC for now,
then you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Your entire system of how you make cash can go
belly up if you weren't in one of these major conferences.
It feels as if you were very very close to
just cutting out a whole bunch of these other schools.
And the second that happens is the second all of
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those schools get the television Like the way they make
their money is off television rights. Well, that's going to
go gone, revenue sharing gone, and now you're just kind
of on your lonesome. Like It's one of the fears
that I have about CSU, to be fully honest, is
(21:51):
that if this all goes down, well, then CSU and
Air Force and all these other schools around here are
no longer a player, not that they won't have sports,
but it's not going to be nearly the same. They
won't get nearly the amount of talent that they have here.
It's just all gonna change. And so Memphis, at least
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to their credit, they recognized it. And yeah, they were
the the three. They were the nerd who went up
to the high school prom queen and asked her on
a date, and she like laughed in his face. And
he goes, oh, yeah, well my parents have money, and
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the prom queen said, I'm already rich.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I don't need that. You know. It's just it's tough.
But you know, CSU it's better than nothing. But this
little remade PAC twelve thing, I don't think. I don't
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think a single person in one of these major conferences
takes it seriously. Just being honest, I don't even know
if it's better than the Mountain West.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Again, you look at sort of the newly revived PAC twelve.
So it's Oregon State, it's Wazoo, Boise State, Fresnose State,
San Diego State, CSU, Utah State, and Gonzaga for the
(23:34):
non football portion of it. They're going to join officially
next year. Somebody tell me why anyone in the SEC,
the ACC, the Big twelve, or the Big ten would
take that seriously. And I've wondered this from the beginning.
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Do they really think the name brand of PAC twelve
is going to hold the water here? Because I'll show
you how silly this kind of sounds. If I gave
you here's the SEC conference guys, ready, Louisiana Tech, UAB.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Georgia, Southern Georgia Tech, Jacksonville State.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
If I gave you those schools and I called it
the SEC, you wouldn't care that it's called the SEC.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It'd be like, that's not that's not the same thing.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Like you need to have the schools that hold weight
and the closest ones that hold weight, like Oregon State
and Wazoo just don't do it. I almost think they
would have been better off if they just even if
they joined forces together. Like I'm all for making a
conference more competitive, but to keep calling it the PAC twelve,
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I think is silly.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You've got to assume people are really really dumb.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
That they're just going to buy into Well, it's actually, uh,
the same Pack twelve I've always watched in my life.
Not really, So with all of that Memphis just gets
the giant middle finger from the Big twelve. They're like, yeah,
I think we're good, but I don't blame them for
at least trying. And this is what I'll give CSU,
like they're at least trying to do something along these lines.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Some other info things that I was wondering about.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Does anybody find it curious that Russell Westbrook is still unsigned?
You know, when he's signed with the Nuggets, it felt
like it was a pretty big deal. He's still someone
(26:01):
that can bring a lot to a team. I'll be
the first to tell you, I think that Russell Westbrook
hate here was a little bit over the top. I mean,
his run with the Nuggets was probably the most successful
venture he had in four or five years. He fit
(26:22):
something that the Nuggets needed, which was just a dog
coming off the bench in a veteran that you trusted.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Outside of him, you had no other vets.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You had Peyton Watson and a host of other guys
that you hoped him, prayed would do. Okay, Now, Russell
Westbrook on this version of the team after the moves
that they've made.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
The chaotic nature of his game I think would go
against what they've been trying to build as a bench unit.
It worked last year just because somebody had Somebody had
to have the balls to make a play that wasn't
a starter.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
It may be a turnover, it may be a misshot,
but it may be a steal, maybe a dunk, maybe
a mystery, maybe a may three. It's gonna be all
of that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I think they needed somebody like that last year, just
somebody wasn't scared to try and make a play. Did
a backfire time, sure, But bottom line is he was
someone that was willing to go out and fail. And
you need people on your rostro like that. They have
plenty of those now, and his game is still kind
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of centered around this, I I gotta be ball dominant
and I have to make a play with the ball
on my hand sort of thing, which just it wouldn't
fit here anymore. But if you remember, it was around
this time last year that Russell Westbrook Sinus contract. It
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was late July and it was kind of heading in
towards the getting close to training camp sort of phase
of the offseason. But I gotta imagine that there's somebody
out there that would want if nothing else just the
(28:22):
energy that he brings to the table. I don't know
who that would be, but the fact that the Nuggets
are in a place where they don't need that anymore
is sort of mind blowing. I remember entering this offseason
not knowing what the moves are going to be, wondering
(28:44):
if the Nuggets were going to be stuck, and I
thought they'd be foolish not to resign Russell Westbrook, but
I didn't think they were capable of pulling off what
they pulled off.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
At the time, it.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Felt like, if you can get one mL E siding,
then that's just one body. If you don't bring Westbrook back,
that just replaces what he was, and then you're stuck
in the same place you were last year.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But I want no part of it anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I think you have a host of different people that
you trust coming off the bench, along with a sort
of cycle of others that aren't guaranteed any playing time
right now that could or earn their way into that conversation.
But the fact that he's still kind of on the
open market is surprising, by the way. Somebody else that's
(29:34):
on the open market, and I want to talk about
this a little bit more in a couple of minutes.
But the Seahawks released no offense. So here's what Jordan
Schultz said about this. Seahawks released no offense. Young talented
(29:54):
player who should be an intriguing option.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Noah offense is a very interesting case.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It almost feels like it's impossible to draft a tight
end out of Iowa in miss I mean, between Kittles
and Sam Laporta's in a whole bunch of different who
am I missing here? I feel like there's one more
Iowa tight end in the NFL right now that I'm missing.
(30:30):
Who the heck is it? Kittle, Laporta, and oh Hockinson.
There you go, TJ.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Hockinson.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That was no offense.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
No offense seems to be the least productive of all
of those different Iowa tight ends. But here's what's funny.
You know what Noah fan did when he was in Denver.
His last two seasons in Denver were a sixty two
catch season for six hundred and seventy three yards and
three touchdowns, and his final year was sixty eight catches
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for six hundred and seventy yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Are those numbers ones that blow you away?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
No but they are by far the best numbers that
any broncos tied and has put up since like the
Manning era, I don't think anybody's even been particularly close,
which begs the question would you be open to a reunion?
You have Evan Ingram, but you don't really have depth
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behind it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Are you interested? We'll get to that in a couple
of minutes. Turn me on, Uh, turn me on. See,
I'm not in control.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I'm just sitting behind Nelly today and I'm not in control
of my buttons. So I need to trust that Nellie
is pushing the right buttons. I saw the guy who
was supposed to fix that stuff walk by. I hope
he's working on some things. No, he doesn't like me
just creeping behind him like a like a ninja, but
a very loud one.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now what I need is you're you're over my right shoulders.
So in the movies, does that make you the angel
right shoulder?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Now?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Then the angel is the good one on the right,
I think, yeah, the devil's on the left, and then
the devil's on the left.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay, speaking of here he comes, I'm just kidding. So
here's the situation.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
There's a team that finds himself in a weird, weird
spot that I want to get to in a second,
which is the Bengals on two different fronts. But just
to finish off the Noah Fans stuff, I don't think
Noah Fan's going to be in very high demand. That's
why he was released and not traded. I think he's
gonna come on a cheap contract.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I would be.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Fully cool and in favor of bringing him as a
number two if you wanted to come back. He probably
wants a chance to really be the guy somewhere. He
didn't even really get to do that in Seattle. But
you just talk about guy that you would trust in
a number two role, like I think that he could
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be that.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So don't gonna spend much more time on it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Just curious how people felt about the Noah fan stuff,
and a lot of people are saying a resounding no
thank you, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Cincinnati and their owner.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Did some talking because they're in two weird spots. Number one,
Cincinnati is not paying Trey Hendrickson, which is a problem,
and number two, Cincinnati is very hesitant to try and
get the first round pick they've signed under contract, and
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for a very odd reason.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Nelly. Do we have the audio here of the owner of.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
The Bengals talking about why and what could be holding
back Schamar Stewart from signing and why they aren't willing
to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And this is a long, awkward cut from Mike Brown.
So you can let this roll as long as you want,
but I do have it time.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
I hesitate to get into the detail. But basically it
turns on whether out years are guaranteed if he gets
involved in conduct detrimental to football? Well, what does that mean?
Detrimental to football in recent years has been violence to women.
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That's about the one that comes to mine. There are others, probably,
but that's the one that I think. Well, if we
get a player who gets involved in something like or
does something that is just unacceptable, guess what, I don't
want to pay him. I really don't. If he's sitting
in jail, I don't think I ought to be paying him.
And so we say that if he.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Is, he.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Is he insinuating that his first round pick is a
guy he's worried is going to beat up women. That's
exactly what I heard.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Why why is he so concerned about Samar specifically? Because
this this language isn't in other contracts for players on
his team. It hasn't been in other contracts, So why
is he digging his heels in on this one.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
If you're concern.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Is that the guy that we drafted might end up
in prison, then maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Have drafted that guy. It's just me.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
But then to say this out loud, I think it's
such a bizarre option that they have gone to. I'll
tell you what, Nelly, I really wanted you to be
the producer here. I want I want. I want to
be able to give Nelly a pay raise. But when
you sometimes when you give guys pay raises and they
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go out and they spend it on hookers and blow.
I want to save him from his from himself to
not end up with a coke problem, so I can.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
So can you give me another read on that? But
sound like you're about two hundred years old while you're
explaining that.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
No, I don't think I have that ability.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
But if we pay this guy money and he ends
up in jail, I don't want to pay him that money.
I don't want him to have a bounty poster on
his hand.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
So I'm just gonna save him from himself.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Uh again, think about how crazy that sounds.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I would love to be able to get this.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Guy signed, but I am kinda scared.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That he is like Ray Liota in Goodfellas.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I'm just gonna say it out loud, and if that's
the case, I don't want to be on the hook
for guaranteed cash.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
So here's my proposal. No money guaranteed and you have
a handler that falls you around twenty four to seven.
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
You know Trey Hendrickson, By the way.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
They were trying.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
To get something done. They were making an attempt to
get him signed an under contract before training camp started.
But this from Adam Schefter at five point fifty nine
this morning, NFL sack leader Trey Hendrickson, in search of
a search of a new contract for the better part
of two off seasons, will not be reporting to training
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camp today with the rest of the Bengals. All along,
Hendrickson had said he would not play under his current contract,
and he has dug in and sticking to his word.
He has, in my opinion, every righte to not show
up with the production that he's given Cincinnati over the
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last four years. Remember, Trey Hendrickson first started with the Saints,
played well, had a spike year in his contract year's
fourth year, where he got thirteen and a half sacks.
Since then, he has totaled fourteen eight seventeen and a
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half and seventeen and a half the first team defensive end.
All of that, he earned the right for a new contract.
And if you can't because you have decided to choose
two wideouts over him, Jamar Chase was obvious you had to,
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but you had a decision. It's t Higgins or it's
Trey Hendrickson. And if I'm looking at Cincinnati, I see
a defense that gave up a billion points last year
and couldn't stop anyone. Maybe you consider that, but they
chose not to. They gave t Higgins the deal, and
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they said, we're just going to do as whatever we
can to surround Joe Burrow with talent and fine. Like
the Broncos have taken the opposite approach, and it's something
I've appreciated. I was solely focused this offseason on getting
bow Nick some help, Like he didn't really have weapons
last year.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I had Courtland Sutton and some other dudes. You know.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Marvin Mims came on strong, late. But the reality is
this Sean Payton's admitted as much. When you give a
quarterback a good defense, it's the best help they can get.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And I agree.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You then aren't as afraid to make a mistake, You
aren't as tight about every time we get on the field,
we get a score, those problems start to dissipate, and
then you can just really worry about, Hey, can we
move the chains, can we get in scoring position. We'll
take a shot on this play. If it doesn't work,
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then our defense can bail us out. That especially applies
to going forward on fourth down, where I hope the
Broncos are even more aggressive than they were last year.
I hope if they if they're ever in a fourth
and short situation on the opposite side of the fifty
in enemy territory, I want this to be one hundred
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percent that go zone.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I want that to happen because you have a defense
that you trust.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
So here's the situation between what the Cincinnati Bengals are
facing now, what the Broncos kind of have in in
their back pocket. They are, to me in the most
prime and perfect position to make that work. And we'll
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get back to this in just a little bit three
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de text line, one price, one person, one hour. So
we got another day with Berto today, so we'll have
Burdo in here and Jim a couple of minutes. He's
filling in for Vic and Moses who are still in
Italy and will be all week.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
But between what the.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
The Broncos in the situation that they have the stat
that I gave you to start off the six o'clock
hour and we'll repeat here. Coming up in a few minutes,
I want to talk a little bit about the Nuggets
offseason and just kind of what is the baseline expectations
for both the ABS and the Nuggets and where we
sit right now. So we'll get to that in just
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what's the real situation, what's the real problem here?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Who's right and who's wrong? Or is it both?
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Is it Colin Cowherd and his praise of Sean Payton
or is bo nick Say System quarterback.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I want to get to it in a second. Moslimbarney
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
That's weird, So, Brett, you've you've turned your mic on.
You've turned it on and you're talking and nothing, nothing's happening.
That's weird. The gremlins are alive and well, let's see,
let try a different mike. Nothing from that studio appears
to be coming through. That is strange.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I've never actually seen this problem before, so it just
appears to be nothing from that studio at all. I
guess this is.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
A new one, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm glad we can get all these technical gremlins out
of the way before training camp starts because nothing's coming through.
For those of you who who can't see what's going on,
Brett is running around the studio trying every mic on
his side to get something to come through the board,
and nothing's coming through the board. This is this is
this is good though. I'm like, I'm like mojer, I
(01:13):
can practice my play by play and Kane is coming
through the door. He's coming through the hallway. He's gonna
come into the studio where I am, and are you
gonna try and use that mic there? I yeah, see
if you can use that mic at the back of
the studio, there's a place for you to plug in
your headphones and then you can just whip that one around.
I know. This is riveting radio. Hi everyone, Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
So we're doing all of this on the fly. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Hey there he is. What's up, Brit It's just you.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Know, sometimes I like to get a view from this side.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So uh, all right, now that we're here, I'll figure
all the rest of the stuff out later.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
We'll figure it out later.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
You can see me right behind Nelly and that camera
over there. Uh, here's where I wanted to start. It's
funny you mentioned training camp, cause that's kind of where
I wanted to go. I mean, it's right around the corner.
And the Broncos have something right now that they haven't
had since twenty fourteen. And I'll tell you exactly what
(02:12):
that is. It's the same coach and quarterback combo for
a second year. Not once have they returned the same
coach and quarterback year over year since twenty fourteen. And
with that information, you think, well, let's be honest here,
(02:36):
how much of that really matters well, the answers to Todd,
you know, keeping roster, turnover keeping, coordinator, turnover keeping, coach.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Quarterback, all of that stuff. It's massive.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You can't really put a number on the idea of
consistency and building things over years.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Think about this like dating. You know how difficult it would.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Be to try and build some long lasting, big relationship
if you're just bouncing around on tender every two weeks.
You have to have the time to build the relationship,
to understand the people that you're with. And I've seen
(03:28):
a lot of stuff regarding bo Nix and Sean Payton
in general. So we got some audio we'll get to
later today. One is Sean Payton and.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
A very.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Complementary Colin Cowherd. Again, most of the time when Cowherd
is talking about Sean Payton, it's going to be good things.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
They're boys.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They became boys the second that Sean Payton started working
for Sports. The bow Nicks stuff, there is a conversation
surrounding him in particular, that is, it's there's not really
an in between with bo Nicks. You either like him
and you think he's gonna be good or you think
he's a complete sort of scheme merchant that Sean Payton
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has built into.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
A viable quarterback in the league.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
So, like I said, we'll get to some audio on
this later, but Bomani Jones was talking about this. Even
if you believe that bo Nix is someone that gets
to take advantage of a Sean Payton system and the
stuff that is I guess most levied criticism wise at
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bo Nicks and his ability is this when you look
at numbers and all. A lot of these came early
in last season. But people will tell you that he
throws the ball behind the line of scrimmage a lot,
and he certainly did early in the year. I think
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that was a way of that was like easing the
rookie quarterbacks sort of career. When he's starting Week one,
how do we make it easiest as possible for this
guy to build confidence and just get positive yardage. If
that's what you want to throw at him, then fine, fine,
(05:37):
it's not as if it didn't. It wasn't a thing
last year because it was. The difference is this later
in the year that started to change a bit. He
took more shots downfield, but more than anything else, what
happens surrounding bo Nicks and throwing the football for the Broncos,
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to me is very simple.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
If you felt that way last year.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
That it was sort of a dink and dounk, guy's
gonna pitter patter his way down the field with two
yard throws or throws behind the line of scrimmage and
let his quote playmakers make something happen. If that's how
you felt, well, guess what everything is coming back this year.
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But there have been improvements at virtually every position. Every
position has gotten to the point to where tight end improved.
The only one you could say is maybe wide receiver
that hasn't. I know they added Pat Bryan. I don't
know how big of a fixture he's gonna be in
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the offense this year, but certainly got better at running back.
When you have those kind of things that are helping more,
when you're gonna find yourself. Even if you thought the
offense was a little too vanilla last year, just by
having more playmakers on the field, it's gonna make a difference. Look,
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I don't know what bow Nix's ceiling is, and when
you don't have somebody that is generational, and I don't
believe he's that, but I think he's good enough. When
you don't have somebody generational, you need to do some
things to help. That means surrounding him with the proper personnel.
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That means it's giving him a good offensive line, and
that means giving him a scheme that works for him.
You know, there's a big conversation surrounding Jalen Hurts, and
I think I'm more in the camp. And I don't
even mean this disrespectfully, but I think Jalen Hurts is
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way more of a bow Knix type than he.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Is a Ma Homes type.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Jalen Hurts is way more of a Joe Flacco type
than Tom Brady type. But Jalen Hurts, with the right
and proper pieces surrounding him, makes the Eagles a super
Bowl contender and a super Bowl champion, and he probably
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will for a while. Like I don't think that Jalen
Hurts is the kind of guy that you say, you
gotta go win us a football game and he can
do it.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
The amount of times last year that it was Saquon
Saquon Barkley with an eighty five yard run to ice
a game. I mean it's huge. Everybody's showing the highlights.
Oh yeah, you can't throw? How about this throw from
the Super Bowl? I'm like the bomb when they were
up thirty points and it didn't matter anymore. Not impressed.
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But the point is, if you're an Eagles fan, it
shouldn't even bother you because he's the right guy for
your team right now.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
If they got to the point where they lose this
offensive line, that they don't have Saquon going for two
thousand yards, that they don't have a defense that's able
to hold like everybody to sixteen points, then.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Maybe the.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Perception surrounding him changes. But at this point, who cares.
At this point, you're a super Bowl champ and that
you have a very good chance to defend that next
year with the roster that you've built, and I pray
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the Broncos get to that place, like I want so
badly for the Broncos to be I would love to
have the conversation after the Broncos win a couple of
playoff games. Yeah, but bo Nicks, is he really the
reason for it? Because my answer is going to be
the same.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Who gives it? Dam does it matter.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
But all of this if you're talking about scheme, and
scheme is the reason why bo Nicks looked good last year,
and scheme is the reason why his numbers look the
way that they did well. The scheme is staying the
same and the personnel just got better. No, it's gonna be,
at least for me, a sort of theme of the day,
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because again, when it comes down to Sean Payton, when
it comes down to bow Nicks, and everybody seems to
have a different sort of thought.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
On this stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
The general consensus of what I've seen from talking heads
and air quote ball knowers around football is that Sean
Payton is really smart, and he's so smart that he
makes bo Nix look good. But I see bo Nicks
as somebody that I mean, you can't say that bo
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Nicks doesn't have ability, because he's got some of the
intangible stuff, or maybe not intangible, but the gifted from
God's stuff that others just don't. His athletic ability is
as good as almost anybody in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I mean, say for Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He can take off with his legs and make something
happen like most quarterbacks can't. And your ability to buy
more time and extend plays is incredibly important now in
the league. But you combine all of that with a
wealth of experience that he got from college. And I'll
be the first one to tell you when I watched
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him in college, I wasn't overly impressed. The numbers were
insane at Oregon, and I'll be the first one I
want to tell you that whenever an Oregon quarterback kind
of goes through the system, I get very hesitant about
what to do with that. I did the same thing
with Marcus Mariota. I'm like, it is, it's the same
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thing we're talking about now. It's such a system built
product that I think, no matter who's under center, can't
help but rack up some insane stats. Now, I go
back to sort of bo Nick's time at Auburn, when
it was like it was fine, but I was skeptical.
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But I'm not gonna argue with results like who gets
the credit for it? You get credit for things when
they go well. And I don't really care if it's
Sean Payton or it's bow Nix. I just wanted to continue.
You know, if a chef, if you get a really
good meal let a restaurant, and it wasn't made by
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the chef.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It was made by the Sioux chef because the head
chef was on break or whatever. Who cares.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Whatever system you guys got going back there in the
kitchen is working. That's all I'm concerned with. So we
can get back to this with some audio a little
bit later. Three oh three, five oh four oh nine
two five shop maz to text line one price, one person,
one hour.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
I don't there's there's a story.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
That's going around in the NBA in one in college
football that I'm gonna tie together, and both of them
are just like, it's almost the worst possible position you
can be when you really put yourself out there and
get denied. And I want to get to that in
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just a couple of minutes. Instagram, turn me on, Turn
me on. I can't control my own see Nellie, I
don't know how many of these. I don't know how
many these you've had before, where it's it's an odd
thing being the first one to hit the on button
every morning, because any issues that you have in that studio, hey,
(14:11):
you're responsible for now getting fixed.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I remember when we first moved into this new building.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
We had everyone well, and I was still doing demp
Scene Company, so I didn't come on till ten am, right,
So I would come in here and Marty would just
look like he'd run one of his one hundred miles
super marathons and he'd go Bretts. Mike wasn't working, and
we couldn't get the lights to turn on, and our
commercial breaks didn't play, and like you guys would just
pull the short straw every single morning for about a month.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yep, you know there was Actually I've I've had like
two different instances where I've done a full show in
the same studio.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Not with you yet, but I've done like two when
Marty was here.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
And I think at that time that was still like
maybe early twenty twenty one, so Vick and Mose were
doing the show from home.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm still but yeah, we're the guinea pigs.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I appreciate, appreciate all of my people that listen at
six o'clock in the morning, because you guys get to
suffer through the same problems we do. I'm sure the
same thing happens when you guys get to work. Your
computer doesn't turn on, something like that you get to
the cubicle, maybe you get to the construction site.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
The jackhammer was left unplugged the night before. I don't
know this works.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Oh yeah, h those those bluetooth powered jackhammers.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You know what I mean? The Okay, So I'll give
you an example. Guys.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I know they have a forklift and they have to
use the forklift like every day. But somebody left the
forklift unplugged the night before, and so no forklifting was done.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Uh AnyWho.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
This is very weird, by the way, because you're you're
directly behind me in the same room as me on
that mic, and so unless I turn around, I can't
see you.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
So it's just like I like talking to the back
of somebody said, It's like I'm yelling at somebody on
an airline that's like in front of me, the seat
in front.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It's like, why you were climbing your seat.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Pal.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It just feels like it feels like the voice of
God is telling me about bo Nick's year two, just
from somewhere in the distance.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I know that everybody gets riled up about this.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
This is one of those those things that I have
that I just I don't know how many people are
six foot three and two hundred pounds. When somebody reclines
their seat into me and you drop the I'm allowed
to do it, it says it on the ticket. Yeah,
but it's rude. Take If it's a child behind you,
then have ad take take your your space. I'm tall
(16:31):
and i have long legs, and I'm already mushed in.
And if your response to me is we'll pay more
money for that, no, how about no?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
How about we just be kind to each other.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I think there's definitely a middle ground. Speaking as a
short man who fits perfectly into every plane seat, there
was one time I reclined my seat. You know, I'm
a plane sleeper. I like to I like my nappy time. Yeah,
and I reclined my seat and then I just felt
stuff in my lower in my lower back, I felt
lumps in my lunbar, like it was one of those
(17:02):
like it was one of those massage chairs. And it
sounded like it felt like the guy behind me was
just having a hell of a time. So I turned
around and I I just I said, hey, man, you okay,
and he goes, no, I'm sorry, I'm I'm six or five,
and there's just no room, dude, yeah, could you please
unrecline your chair said, not a problem, just just be
just be a decent human check in on each other.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I want to punch you. You would have gotten the
idea real quick. Okay. So here's the deal. Yeah, I'm
gonna say it. So when.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Malik Beasley got hit with the the gambling stuff, and
I like Malik, Malik seems to have some trouble in
his personal life.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think that he was. He was a good kid.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
He just he's one of those guys like you always
got wrapped up in something. There was another guy being
investigated by the way the same time. It was Malie
Beasley and Terry Rogier. Let me ask you, like, if
you get hit with the gambling stuff in that sport,
that's brutal. It's a lifetime ban, and it should be.
(18:16):
Terry Rosier was investigated and the conclusion they came to
was that he didn't. Now I'm gonna tell you why.
I think that's worse. Nelly, hear me out on this
lifetime ban from the sport.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
But if you're being investigated, that means you're playing so
badly that somebody said to themselves, he's gotta have money
against this team, and the conclusion they came to was
that he didn't He's just bad.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well do you remember do you remember the name of
a pitcher. There was some some baseball pitcher that just
got investigated like a month ago, and there were two
particular pitches that some betting integrity group were investigating and
and the internet was was like, if this goes belly up,
if this investigation proves nothing, that means this dude through
two pitches that were so bad. Yeah, that an independent
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third party organization thought, oh, he had to intentionally do
those right, tip off everybody that right, that's that the
bet is on and that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
So because of that, I have another question for you.
What's the question.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Is it better to be rejected or never asked at all?
I'm not talking about your your Sadie Howkins sophomore dance. Okay,
The University of Memphis went to the Big Twelve hat
in hand and on their knees and they said, please,
(20:04):
I will give you two hundred and fifty million dollars
if you let me join this conference. And the Big
Twelve said, take that l.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
On the way out now, we're good.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Don't need that. I want you to think about that
for a second, offered them two hundred and fifty million
dollars to join a conference that is uninterested in you
(20:41):
buy their way into a conference. That's worse because where
do you go from there? Like Memphis and a whole
bunch of other schools, they see the riding on the
wall that if you weren't part of at a minimum,
the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
The SEC, the Big twelve, or the ACC for now,
then you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Your entire system of how you make cash can go
belly up if you weren't in one of these major conferences.
It feels as if you were very very close to
just cutting out a whole bunch of these other schools.
And the second that happens is the second all of
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those schools get the television Like the way they make
their money is off television rights. Well, that's going to
go gone, revenue sharing gone, and now you're just kind
of on your lonesome. Like It's one of the fears
that I have about CSU, to be fully honest, is
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that if this all goes down, well, then CSU and
Air Force and all these other schools around here are
no longer a player, not that they won't have sports,
but it's not going to be nearly the same. They
won't get nearly the amount of talent that they have here.
It's just all gonna change. And so Memphis, at least
(22:14):
to their credit, they recognized it. And yeah, they were
the the three. They were the nerd who went up
to the high school prom queen and asked her on
a date, and she like laughed in his face. And
he goes, oh, yeah, well my parents have money, and
(22:34):
the prom queen said, I'm already rich.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I don't need that. You know. It's just it's tough.
But you know, CSU it's better than nothing. But this
little remade PAC twelve thing, I don't think. I don't
(22:59):
think a single person in one of these major conferences
takes it seriously. Just being honest, I don't even know
if it's better than the Mountain West.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Again, you look at sort of the newly revived PAC twelve.
So it's Oregon State, it's Wazoo, Boise State, Fresnose State,
San Diego State, CSU, Utah State, and Gonzaga for the
(23:34):
non football portion of it. They're going to join officially
next year. Somebody tell me why anyone in the SEC,
the ACC, the Big twelve, or the Big ten would
take that seriously. And I've wondered this from the beginning.
(23:56):
Do they really think the name brand of PAC twelve
is going to hold the water here? Because I'll show
you how silly this kind of sounds. If I gave
you here's the SEC conference guys, ready, Louisiana Tech, UAB.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Georgia, Southern Georgia Tech, Jacksonville State.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
If I gave you those schools and I called it
the SEC, you wouldn't care that it's called the SEC.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It'd be like, that's not that's not the same thing.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Like you need to have the schools that hold weight
and the closest ones that hold weight, like Oregon State
and Wazoo just don't do it. I almost think they
would have been better off if they just even if
they joined forces together. Like I'm all for making a
conference more competitive, but to keep calling it the PAC twelve,
(25:03):
I think is silly.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
You've got to assume people are really really dumb.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
That they're just going to buy into Well, it's actually, uh,
the same Pack twelve I've always watched in my life.
Not really, So with all of that Memphis just gets
the giant middle finger from the Big twelve. They're like, yeah,
I think we're good, but I don't blame them for
at least trying. And this is what I'll give CSU,
like they're at least trying to do something along these lines.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Some other info things that I was wondering about.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Does anybody find it curious that Russell Westbrook is still unsigned?
You know, when he's signed with the Nuggets, it felt
like it was a pretty big deal. He's still someone
(26:01):
that can bring a lot to a team. I'll be
the first to tell you, I think that Russell Westbrook
hate here was a little bit over the top. I mean,
his run with the Nuggets was probably the most successful
venture he had in four or five years. He fit
(26:22):
something that the Nuggets needed, which was just a dog
coming off the bench in a veteran that you trusted.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Outside of him, you had no other vets.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
You had Peyton Watson and a host of other guys
that you hoped him, prayed would do. Okay, Now, Russell
Westbrook on this version of the team after the moves
that they've made.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
The chaotic nature of his game I think would go
against what they've been trying to build as a bench unit.
It worked last year just because somebody had Somebody had
to have the balls to make a play that wasn't
a starter.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
It may be a turnover, it may be a misshot,
but it may be a steal, maybe a dunk, maybe
a mystery, maybe a may three. It's gonna be all
of that.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I'm telling you.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I think they needed somebody like that last year, just
somebody wasn't scared to try and make a play. Did
a backfire time, sure, But bottom line is he was
someone that was willing to go out and fail. And
you need people on your rostro like that. They have
plenty of those now, and his game is still kind
(27:38):
of centered around this, I I gotta be ball dominant
and I have to make a play with the ball
on my hand sort of thing, which just it wouldn't
fit here anymore. But if you remember, it was around
this time last year that Russell Westbrook Sinus contract. It
(28:01):
was late July and it was kind of heading in
towards the getting close to training camp sort of phase
of the offseason. But I gotta imagine that there's somebody
out there that would want if nothing else just the
(28:22):
energy that he brings to the table. I don't know
who that would be, but the fact that the Nuggets
are in a place where they don't need that anymore
is sort of mind blowing. I remember entering this offseason
not knowing what the moves are going to be, wondering
(28:44):
if the Nuggets were going to be stuck, and I
thought they'd be foolish not to resign Russell Westbrook, but
I didn't think they were capable of pulling off what
they pulled off.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
At the time, it.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Felt like, if you can get one mL E siding,
then that's just one body. If you don't bring Westbrook back,
that just replaces what he was, and then you're stuck
in the same place you were last year.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But I want no part of it anymore.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I think you have a host of different people that
you trust coming off the bench, along with a sort
of cycle of others that aren't guaranteed any playing time
right now that could or earn their way into that conversation.
But the fact that he's still kind of on the
open market is surprising, by the way. Somebody else that's
(29:34):
on the open market, and I want to talk about
this a little bit more in a couple of minutes.
But the Seahawks released no offense. So here's what Jordan
Schultz said about this. Seahawks released no offense. Young talented
(29:54):
player who should be an intriguing option.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Noah offense is a very interesting case.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It almost feels like it's impossible to draft a tight
end out of Iowa in miss I mean, between Kittles
and Sam Laporta's in a whole bunch of different who
am I missing here? I feel like there's one more
Iowa tight end in the NFL right now that I'm missing.
(30:30):
Who the heck is it? Kittle, Laporta, and oh Hockinson.
There you go, TJ.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Hockinson.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
That was no offense.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
No offense seems to be the least productive of all
of those different Iowa tight ends. But here's what's funny.
You know what Noah fan did when he was in Denver.
His last two seasons in Denver were a sixty two
catch season for six hundred and seventy three yards and
three touchdowns, and his final year was sixty eight catches
(31:10):
for six hundred and seventy yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Are those numbers ones that blow you away?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
No but they are by far the best numbers that
any broncos tied and has put up since like the
Manning era, I don't think anybody's even been particularly close,
which begs the question would you be open to a reunion?
You have Evan Ingram, but you don't really have depth
(31:38):
behind it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Are you interested? We'll get to that in a couple
of minutes. Turn me on, Uh, turn me on. See,
I'm not in control.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I'm just sitting behind Nelly today and I'm not in control
of my buttons. So I need to trust that Nellie
is pushing the right buttons. I saw the guy who
was supposed to fix that stuff walk by. I hope
he's working on some things. No, he doesn't like me
just creeping behind him like a like a ninja, but
a very loud one.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now what I need is you're you're over my right shoulders.
So in the movies, does that make you the angel
right shoulder?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Now?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Then the angel is the good one on the right,
I think, yeah, the devil's on the left, and then
the devil's on the left.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay, speaking of here he comes, I'm just kidding. So
here's the situation.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
There's a team that finds himself in a weird, weird
spot that I want to get to in a second,
which is the Bengals on two different fronts. But just
to finish off the Noah Fans stuff, I don't think
Noah Fan's going to be in very high demand. That's
why he was released and not traded. I think he's
gonna come on a cheap contract.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I would be.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Fully cool and in favor of bringing him as a
number two if you wanted to come back. He probably
wants a chance to really be the guy somewhere. He
didn't even really get to do that in Seattle. But
you just talk about guy that you would trust in
a number two role, like I think that he could
(33:15):
be that.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
So don't gonna spend much more time on it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Just curious how people felt about the Noah fan stuff,
and a lot of people are saying a resounding no
thank you, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Cincinnati and their owner.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Did some talking because they're in two weird spots. Number one,
Cincinnati is not paying Trey Hendrickson, which is a problem,
and number two, Cincinnati is very hesitant to try and
get the first round pick they've signed under contract, and
(34:04):
for a very odd reason.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Nelly. Do we have the audio here of the owner of.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
The Bengals talking about why and what could be holding
back Schamar Stewart from signing and why they aren't willing
to do it.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And this is a long, awkward cut from Mike Brown.
So you can let this roll as long as you want,
but I do have it time.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
I hesitate to get into the detail. But basically it
turns on whether out years are guaranteed if he gets
involved in conduct detrimental to football? Well, what does that mean?
Detrimental to football in recent years has been violence to women.
(34:50):
That's about the one that comes to mine. There are others, probably,
but that's the one that I think. Well, if we
get a player who gets involved in something like or
does something that is just unacceptable, guess what, I don't
want to pay him. I really don't. If he's sitting
in jail, I don't think I ought to be paying him.
And so we say that if he.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Is, he.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Is he insinuating that his first round pick is a
guy he's worried is going to beat up women. That's
exactly what I heard.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Why why is he so concerned about Samar specifically? Because
this this language isn't in other contracts for players on
his team. It hasn't been in other contracts, So why
is he digging his heels in on this one.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
If you're concern.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Is that the guy that we drafted might end up
in prison, then maybe you shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Have drafted that guy. It's just me.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
But then to say this out loud, I think it's
such a bizarre option that they have gone to. I'll
tell you what, Nelly, I really wanted you to be
the producer here. I want I want. I want to
be able to give Nelly a pay raise. But when
you sometimes when you give guys pay raises and they
(36:29):
go out and they spend it on hookers and blow.
I want to save him from his from himself to
not end up with a coke problem, so I can.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
So can you give me another read on that? But
sound like you're about two hundred years old while you're
explaining that.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
No, I don't think I have that ability.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
But if we pay this guy money and he ends
up in jail, I don't want to pay him that money.
I don't want him to have a bounty poster on
his hand.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
So I'm just gonna save him from himself.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Uh again, think about how crazy that sounds.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I would love to be able to get this.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
Guy signed, but I am kinda scared.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That he is like Ray Liota in Goodfellas.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
I'm just gonna say it out loud, and if that's
the case, I don't want to be on the hook
for guaranteed cash.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
So here's my proposal. No money guaranteed and you have
a handler that falls you around twenty four to seven.
What are we doing here?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
You know Trey Hendrickson, By the way.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
They were trying.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
To get something done. They were making an attempt to
get him signed an under contract before training camp started.
But this from Adam Schefter at five point fifty nine
this morning, NFL sack leader Trey Hendrickson, in search of
a search of a new contract for the better part
of two off seasons, will not be reporting to training
(38:04):
camp today with the rest of the Bengals. All along,
Hendrickson had said he would not play under his current contract,
and he has dug in and sticking to his word.
He has, in my opinion, every righte to not show
up with the production that he's given Cincinnati over the
(38:26):
last four years. Remember, Trey Hendrickson first started with the Saints,
played well, had a spike year in his contract year's
fourth year, where he got thirteen and a half sacks.
Since then, he has totaled fourteen eight seventeen and a
(38:52):
half and seventeen and a half the first team defensive end.
All of that, he earned the right for a new contract.
And if you can't because you have decided to choose
two wideouts over him, Jamar Chase was obvious you had to,
(39:18):
but you had a decision. It's t Higgins or it's
Trey Hendrickson. And if I'm looking at Cincinnati, I see
a defense that gave up a billion points last year
and couldn't stop anyone. Maybe you consider that, but they
chose not to. They gave t Higgins the deal, and
(39:39):
they said, we're just going to do as whatever we
can to surround Joe Burrow with talent and fine. Like
the Broncos have taken the opposite approach, and it's something
I've appreciated. I was solely focused this offseason on getting
bow Nick some help, Like he didn't really have weapons
last year.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
I had Courtland Sutton and some other dudes. You know.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Marvin Mims came on strong, late. But the reality is
this Sean Payton's admitted as much. When you give a
quarterback a good defense, it's the best help they can get.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
And I agree.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
You then aren't as afraid to make a mistake, You
aren't as tight about every time we get on the field,
we get a score, those problems start to dissipate, and
then you can just really worry about, Hey, can we
move the chains, can we get in scoring position. We'll
take a shot on this play. If it doesn't work,
(40:50):
then our defense can bail us out. That especially applies
to going forward on fourth down, where I hope the
Broncos are even more aggressive than they were last year.
I hope if they if they're ever in a fourth
and short situation on the opposite side of the fifty
in enemy territory, I want this to be one hundred
(41:13):
percent that go zone.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
I want that to happen because you have a defense
that you trust.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
So here's the situation between what the Cincinnati Bengals are
facing now, what the Broncos kind of have in in
their back pocket. They are, to me in the most
prime and perfect position to make that work. And we'll
(41:47):
get back to this in just a little bit three
oh three, five, four oh nine two five shop maz
de text line, one price, one person, one hour. So
we got another day with Berto today, so we'll have
Burdo in here and Jim a couple of minutes. He's
filling in for Vic and Moses who are still in
Italy and will be all week.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
But between what the.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
The Broncos in the situation that they have the stat
that I gave you to start off the six o'clock
hour and we'll repeat here. Coming up in a few minutes,
I want to talk a little bit about the Nuggets
offseason and just kind of what is the baseline expectations
for both the ABS and the Nuggets and where we
sit right now. So we'll get to that in just
(42:30):
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what's the real situation, what's the real problem here?
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Who's right and who's wrong? Or is it both?
Speaker 4 (43:10):
Is it Colin Cowherd and his praise of Sean Payton
or is bo nick Say System quarterback.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
I want to get to it in a second. Moslimbarney
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