0:00 - We've been talking about a feared "Sophomore Slump" for Bo Nix this season. Can he avoid it? Will he fall into it? It's certainly been a topic of discussion this offseason. Sean Payton was asked about it yesterday, and he's not concerned at all.
14:18 - Bo Nix spent a few days hanging with Drew Brees in San Diego. Even though he's an all-time great, how can he help Bo specifically? Then, Brett has a Jokic-related stat that's hard to believe.
34:21 - The NFL is king right now, and the revenue numbers prove it time and time again.
14:18 - Bo Nix spent a few days hanging with Drew Brees in San Diego. Even though he's an all-time great, how can he help Bo specifically? Then, Brett has a Jokic-related stat that's hard to believe.
34:21 - The NFL is king right now, and the revenue numbers prove it time and time again.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I hear that a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Is that overblowing that?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I think? So, I look, they're watching the We're all
watching the film throughout the year, So there's not this
one off season where there's a group of defensive coaches
sitting in a room for two weeks looking at bow
Knicks film. I mean that the study and looking at
the system, the players in the system. Yeah, I've heard.
(00:46):
I've heard that, and I kind of cringe when I
hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The idea of a not particularly but you hear about
sophomore slumps through the quarterbacks and wait, I do what
is that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Also?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What M's talking that?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know. I'm just trying to think of them,
you know, I'm trying to think of the the MTV
one hit wonders, and there's not a lot of them
that come to mind.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I mean, I know that's Sean Payton again, a man
who does not lack.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
What I would say is confidence or ego.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
He's always going to be somebody who feels like he
has the upper hand in a situation.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
He's a confident head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
There's going to be no issue with this guy walking
into a building thinking that he is the smartest guy
in the room, and a lot of times he is.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Sean Payton's a really good coach, and so when he
makes the decision not just to take bow knicks, but
then to have success and where it goes from here,
I don't think that Sean Payton has a single fear
that there's going to be a step back this season,
and I've been on record I don't think so either.
(02:04):
You know, there is for Nicks, I think a separation
between what his rookie year was and what a lot
of other guys' rookie years are. He was thrown into
the fire immediately.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
He was tasked with putting a whole bunch of things
immediately on his right shoulder. You know, when you have
situations across different rookie quarterbacks and what they face, you know,
how much are you are you really swimming upstream? It's
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something that I noticed immediately from last year.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Do you remember that draft?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
So a whole bunch of quarterbacks are taken and every
team's sort of makeup is different. But if you remember,
you went from Caleb Williams to Jaden Daniels to Drake
May to JJ McCarthy and then wait to missing somebody, oh,
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Michael Pennix, JJ McCarthy, Bo Nicks, And I think out
of all of those teams, the worst predicament that you
could have been in as far as team makeup around
a rookie quarterback, I think is probably Drake May's. The
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Patriots just had really no talent. Defense was offense had
kind of nobody, and their offensive line was atrocious, so
much so that they've basically said out loud before the
season started last year, we aren't starting Drake May. He'll
get killed back there with this offensive line. And then
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they looked at who's just arter again was a Brisett,
and they said, hey, you go take the hits. So
I think theirs was probably the worst, But as far
as just pure offensively, I think the Broncos were the second.
The lack of big time playmakers on the roster last
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year was apparent. You know, Bo Nicks was almost leading
the team in rushing yards on ninety two carries. Last year,
he had four hundred and thirty. He was only eighty
three back of Javonte Williams, who led the team.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
They had one real weapon in Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
There were guys who had sort of spikes in peaks
and valleys, you know, Mims towards the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, but the only guy you really relied upon was
Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And look at the other teams, Like I remember looking
at Chicago's roster heading into the season last year and
I'm like, so, wait a minute, Caleb Williams, who will
also start week one, is going to start with DJ
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Moore and Keenan Allen and Roma Donze and Cole Kmet
and DeAndre Swift and Roshawn Johnson. Like they kept it,
just kept going with guys who were really really talented
offensive players. The same thing with even if you thought Washington,
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like Jane Daniels had an amazing year, but Brian Robinson
Junior and Austin Eckler is a nice little one to
two punch in the backfield. Terry McLaurin is a very
good wide out. I think that their wide out situation
was a little bit more similar to what the Broncos were.
I mean, their second leading receiver was zach Ertz was
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sixty six catches and six hundred and fifty four yards.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
But they had a running game. At least.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They had.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
A dude who ran for eight hundred yards. Now, a
big part of their running game was also Jaden Daniels.
You know, Atlanta, Atlanta's not even close. Like this is
part of the reason I think that Michael Pennix could
be a really good player this year. Their combo of
Bjean Robinson and Tyler Algier, along with Drake London as
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a weapon in the passing game. Darnell Mooney is a
very underrated wide receiver. Even the guy like Ray Ray
McCloud pretty good. I don't know what you do with
Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts is this enigma that I don't
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even know how you handle for fantasy football players. You
know the Kyle Pitts game really well. Every year is
the breakout year for Kyle Pitts, and the breakout year
never happens. But I say all this just to tell
you I think from a raw talent standpoint. On offense,
the Broncos were I think second worst behind New England,
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and Bonix found a way to make them productive. The
question now for them is just more it's about consistency.
Can you get to a place where you're consistently moving
the chains, not having three and outs, keeping your defense
was very good off the field to get a breather occasionally,
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and then when you do make a mistake, because they're
bound to happen, they will, your defense can bail you out.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
But the reason why I think there's such high.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Variance on bo Knicks heading into this year's because bo
Nix is somebody that the numbers feel like they don't
quite match up with what you watched.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Last year. Bo Nicks had twenty nine touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It's the second most for a rookie in franch or
in NFL history, and it didn't quite feel that way.
You know, you had basically a month of the season
before he even had a passing touchdown, and then it
started to take off, like you look at it like that.
He didn't have a touchdown passer the first three weeks.
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His first one came in Week four against the Jets,
and then in the subsequent thirteen weeks of the season
he totaled twenty eight touchdowns just through the air.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Off to see if I can find this sound by it.
But one of my favorite zingers related to football is
when RG three said statistics are like a bikini. They
show you a lot of stuff, but they don't show
you the full picture.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I mean it's it's true, and a lot of guys
get kind of fooled by that sort of game. But
here's kind of where I'm at with this. Sean Payton's
a really good coach, and like, I have full faith
that they are going to unlock sort of peak potential.
(09:20):
If I asked you last year, do you think the
Broncos got the absolute most out of last season that
they could. I think my answer is yes, they got
peak performance. It's why nobody was pissed off when.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
The season ended.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's a really hard place to be, by the way,
think about that for a second. Whenever the season ends
and it ends in the playoffs, especially, most people feel like, goodness,
we really just kind of blew that we had a
golden opportunity because most teams that make the playoffs have
championship sort of aspirations. Season ended for the Broncos and
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you're like, yep, that's kind of what I thought, because
you've you felt as if they hit their peak and
to do that with a rookie quarterback in year one,
fifty million dollars unused on the salary cap for Russell
Wilson's contract, a running game that was nonexistent, and one
real weapon on offense. If that's what the peak was
for that, then what's the peak for this year?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
This year?
Speaker 6 (10:25):
They're Dennis Reynolds peak. I have not begun to peak.
And when I peak, this whole city's gonna feel it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You'll you'll know it.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Broncos are said to be a golden god this year.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
I hope so.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
By the way, so in that in that cut that
I opened the show with, I excuse me, much like
what we're hoping the Broncos don't do.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I just choked there on the spot.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
But anyway, so that cut of Sean Payton that I
opened the show with, he was asked about bo Nicks
and this concept of a sophomore slump, which everybody's been
throwing that around like it's the term dajore all off season,
and later in that cut he said this.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know, I'm trying to think of the the MTV
one hit wonders, and there's not a lot of them
that come to mind.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
What are some of your favorite one hit wonders that
hopefully aren't bon Nicks sports music otherwise.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I mean, there's he said, not a lot to come
to mind. There's a ton.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I was gonna say that the fifties and the sixties
were like all one hit wonders, Eighties one hit wonders galore.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You couldn't think of anything sh on.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I mean, there's a ton of one hit wonders everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
He's Look, you can go, oh, what's the one that
distinctly that's a stupid song, but it was always oh,
tub thumping.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
By Blamba, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
But yeah, there's a million of them. He can't look.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Stacy's mom, I like that one fountains a Wayne.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, you know. But but Peyton is this is what
I think. I'm net. He said, there's not a lot
I can think of.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think in his mind he means well, at least
that I have experienced with, Like, he just thinks he's
good enough to go beyond that, and he very well
might be.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Again, he's got my.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Total faith and keeping this thing afloat and keeping it going.
I don't have a lot of fears of regression when
it comes to Bo Nicks, I have fears, some fears
of regression overall for the Broncos, and it's just because
winning in the AFC is hard. Winning in this division
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specifically is hard. But you should be able to get
back to the postseason and hopefully if the things that
you're missing last year, which is a little bit of
a running game, some depth defensivelyas especially in the secondary,
(13:03):
and getting just a few more playmakers. If that's the
stuff that you're missing, they've done their damnedest to address
it and hopefully in the middle of this year it
can get figured out. But they're opening up camp and
there's a lot more quotes from Sean Payton yesterday. He
(13:25):
spoke for a long time, at least for Sean Payton's
m O. It was something or like what thirty minutes
is how long he stood up there at the podium.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
It was about and I'll tell you what This might
be silly, but in his very first answer, his opening statements,
so that this is he's talking before anyone's asked him
any questions. Yeah, he gave us not one, but two
relative twos. I was kind of getting a little misty man,
like we are so back. Yeah, Sean Payton. He was
snipping at reporters. We got another no no, no, no no.
(13:56):
We got relative twos, we got all his arms, we
got stories about his time in New Orleans. I mean,
I got bingo and I am so friggin stoked man.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We are so back.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Got bingo on day one. It's tough to do.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
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Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's Will Heightwinds dot Com. Back after this, how's everyone doing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's good to be back.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Of course, these early first few practices are are more
of a ramp up stage that we're in relative to
time and what we can do with pads. It was
pretty uneventful relative to yesterday. Everyone's arrival meeting schedule has
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been good. And then obviously it's a little different just
with the construction. And you know, I think we're fortunate
to still be open for business, if you will, for
our fans, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yep, that's Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
There's always just so many funny questions that has asked
the head coaches or people on these sort of media
I'm gonna call this a media day. I know it's
training camp, but it's like the time of year where
a whole bunch of people who don't usually go.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
And ask questions, ask questions.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
That's where I think you get a question like this
in Tennessee yesterday, simple.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Question, the team you put on the field tomorrow, can
that team win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Listen, we have that's always the goal every year.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, we also realize that we have a lot of
work to do on this roster.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah great. You know, I'll tell you something that I
think is wildly overrated. Okay, but people talk about this
stuff a lot. The did young quarterback hang out with
(16:03):
the former star quarterback thing? You'll remember, like the stories
of Drew Locke was actually with Peyton Manning and they're
watching film together.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Okay, that's great.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I'm sure that you know, getting a nice little one
on one time with an all timer is somewhat beneficial,
But it's still kind of like, can you do the
job or not. I'll tell you this, if I just
hung around Jeff Bezos for a couple of days, I
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don't think I could run Amazon.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Yeah, but you'd meet some hot girls and end up
on the Epstein list. So you know, well, wow, that's
an accusation right there. I just assume any rich person
is probably on that list if you were big in
the nineties.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I mean I suppose, yeah, I suppose so. But it's
Bo Nicks is meeting with Drew Brees and they hung
out and blah blah blah, and I'm like, Okay, that's great.
I'm just I don't I don't know why people get
so excited about something like that.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Now, I believe it's cut twelve here.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
But before that though, there's some context though. There was
an earlier question where Sean Payton was asked about the
marriage between a coach and a quarterback, attain and things
you can accomplish, and then, unprompted, in that answer, he
said this.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
He's he's someone that works his tail off, wants to improve.
You know, the whole off season is planned out. You know,
he's gone and visited Breeze for four or five days
and that's Tom hous In here, and there's there's a
lot that he wants to absorb.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Okay, so he volunteered that information, yes, and then the
cut I think you want to play was a fall
up questions, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Let's hear the cut twelve.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Just to clarify quot next that he's just got to
New Orleans for four or five days. In between the
no no, no, he Drew doesn't. Drew lives in San Diego,
and he spent some time going there just you know,
with it with the schedule and wanting to know more
about the offense. And so I'm sure I don't even
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know when he went, but I just know he went,
and uh yeah, I mean it was it was him
doing more research at the position.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Okay, So the no no no I thought was going.
I don't know if he was angry or not.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I don't think he was angry, but the no, no
no could have just been like that wasn't New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
He lives in San Diego. He went there, I.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No, no, no, he Here's.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Another thing that answer.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And this is at least I'm a little curious about
this on what Sean Payton believes that the offense should
be under bow Nicks. Because if he said he's going,
he went to visit Drew Brees to learn the offense better,
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I believe is what he said.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, I don't think you could.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You can't run the offense you had in New Orleans
here with bow Knicks because bow Knicks is and Drew
Brees a wildly different player. Like you can take some
things from that offense and do it, but bo Nicks's
ability to use his legs, bo Nicks's Drew Brees' ability
to be hyper accurate with the football. It would be like,
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hopefully ten years from now, when Jokic retires, and then
you you take a center with your first round draft pick,
and you hope the center is going to be good,
and you're like, yeah, you went to visit Jokic to
learn how to run the offense like we did under him.
It's like, well, you're probably not gonna He's a unique cat.
My guess is you weren't going to operate the same
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way as he did when he was here. But again,
there's just a trust factor with me when it comes
to Sean Payton and the Broncos. Now, speaking of Jokic,
I need to share something with you. We knew that
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it was bad. I had no idea that it was
this bad. So these guys it's called a nerd sesh
is their podcast.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So these guys are hoopeads that.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Are really big into numbers and stats, and they can
sort of rattle off a whole bunch of different dudes.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
So they played this game. It's a three and a
half minute clip.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Of the top ten backup centers to Nikola Jokic by points.
I remember, these are centers. These aren't like if you
took Jeff Green and you threw him at center when
Jokic was out. They're looking for guys who were They
have a center next to their name that were Jokic's
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backup point guards. So they're going through this top ten
by points scored as Nikola Jokic's backup center. I'm gonna
give you the names on this list, and I think
you're gonna be shocked.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
There were genuinely some names on this list that I
had never heard of before. This is insane.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So actually, I'll give you guys a minute, like I
want you to go through in your head think about
who would be in the top ten. Remember these are centers, okay,
centers behind Nikola Jokic. So if they're like a power forward,
they stretch into a five. When Jokic leaves the floor,
that doesn't count. So I want to give you all
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a minute to just kind of think, like, who would
be the leaders in points as a backup center to NIKOLEA.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Jokic, And this is in his career, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I'll go through the list, and I'm gonna go from
top to bottom, because I feel like the names at
the bottom of the list are more shocking than the
ones at the top. The backup center who has had
the most points as a backup to Jokic is Mason Plumbley,
which isn't I don't think a huge surprise. He had
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one eight hundred and forty three points. Second on the list.
This is already where I was shocked. Mason Plumbing number
one one, eight hundred and forty three. Second on the
list with six hundred and twenty one is Yusef Nurkic.
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The short amount of time that they played together, he
is second all time in points scored as a backup
center to Jokich. After that, at number three is DeAndre
Jordan with five hundred and fifty. At number four, go
ahead and go off the board, ladies and gentlemen. At
number four is Jeoffrey Laverne. At number five is Boogie
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Cousins with two hundred and seventy six. At number six
is Bull Bull, at number seven is JJ Hickson, At
number eight is Hartenstein, who was one hundred and four points.
At number nine is Thomas Bryant who barely played, and
at number ten is JaVale McGee.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
So when I saw this, the first thing I thought
of was because I thought I was going knots.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I'm like, why am I doing all this hemming and
hawing about Yonas valentionas.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
That's exactly why that.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
The second highest leader in points for a backup center
to Jokic is Nurkic, who they basically just crossed paths
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
That's why it matters. That's why it was so invested.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Greece.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
If you're listening, this is why we need our jonas.
If anybody in the Nation of Greece can tell me
who Jeoffrey Laverne is, I'd be very surprised. Are there
any Punathan Nakos fans who know who JJ Hickson is.
This is why we need our Jonas. This is why
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Javail McGhee is on that list. That's crazy talk.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'll tell you right now. I don't know who Jeoffrey
Laverne is see.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I told you there were names I didn't recognize, and
also the spelling of his name Laverne la uv e
r g n e. Yeah, and it's Jeoffrey, like Prince Jeoffrey.
It's French. I have never heard of that man in
my life, I swear to God.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, it's probably because in twenty eighteen or since twenty
eighteen he's been playing overseas. But this is kind of
the point here, when you have that sort of situation
at backup center and you're trying to figure out one
viable option to throw behind him to just keep things afloat.
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When you don't have that, you force guys to play
out of position. When guys play out of position, bad
things happen. So finding Yonas Valancionas and having him here
is a massive boost. It's like it's something you never
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you never had before.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I know. It's it's kind of like just finding out.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You had a extended relative who passed, who just gave
you a ton of money that you had no idea about.
That's what Valentunas is gonna feel like. That actually, says
does Yonis Valentnas jump the top five after one season
it's very possible.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So let's just see here yonas valentiunas.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
So last year he was mostly a backup, and in
those backup minutes he averaged let's just call it ten
points a game. So in seventeen ish minutes per game,
he averaged ten. If he does the same thing here,
and he he's a healthy guy, He's been healthy most
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years of his career.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Let's say he.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Plays eighty games and averages let's say seventy games, seventy
games where he averages ten points per that would put
him at seven hundred, which would make him by far
number two on the list in one season.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It's why, like I always sort of.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I was sort of pined for the days of Mason
plumbling And it's just because Mason Plumbley.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Was reliable.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
That's why he was there for at least a couple
of years. Is that you would put him in behind
jokicch and you're like, look, is it Yoki's level play?
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Is it anything stellar?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
But it's fine, And I've been begging for fine for years.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
And also the Nuggets could lose a game by like
twenty or thirty points and no matter what happened, good
bad or indifferent. Michael Malone would always turn on his
microphone and go the only guy that showed any effort
out there was Mason Plumley. He's the only guy that
wanted to play there today.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Mason was He's a tryhard guy. And that sounds like
an insult, but it's the truth.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
No, he was the I feel like every other night.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
In his postgame press conference, Malone just praised Plumbley for
his effort and every every stereotype you want to throw
out there about like a white tight end. Yeah, he
would say about Mason Plumley, real workhorse, real scrappy player.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
He's like a full back. He's like a Janovitch, the
first guy.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
On the field, last guy off the field.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
But I miss that because you want especially with Malone,
and I really don't know if adalman in this category
is all that different, Like you're gonna have to put
effort on the floor if you want to play, especially
for this team, especially with the depth that they have now.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Mason Plumbley.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Was in the trusted category, which is very hard for
you to get in in a Mike Malone coach team.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I just.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I saw that list yesterday in It blew my mind
with what that backup situation has been. So if you
want to, by the way, if you want to make
the argument that a Hartenstein or Thomas.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Bryant or Bull Bull.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Or somebody else was like wasn't given the opportunity, I
mean I suppose you could. But yeah, Texas is Plumbley
was pretty good, but I hated him after leaving a
d wide opening Game two of the twenty twenty Western Conversation.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Yeah, I remember that play.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I mean it's miss communication, scramble whatever, Plumbley. Well, the
fact that Plumley was trusted enough. How about this. It's
the end of Game two of the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And Plumbley was trusted enough to be on the floor
in the final seconds.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I know it was like a late defensive sub to
try and avoid exactly what happened, But still, when's the
last guy that played center that you could trust like that?
So three h three five oh four nine two five
shop Mazda text line, one price, one person, one hour.
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The Rocks get a shutout yesterday. Here's a little factoid
towards that the Rockies, in their had their first shutout
yesterday since May fifteenth of twenty twenty four. That's twenty
twenty games, the longest streak without a shutout in MLB history.
(31:08):
Just setting records left him right. But if you're keeping
track at home, you know this was a series against
the Saint Louis Cardinals, hated rival, also took Arnado from you.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Blah blah blah. Series win, and that makes.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Two to row for the Rocks, as they won the
two of the three in the series against the Twins
and then the three against the Cardinals. They got the
Orioles coming up tomorrow at five o'clock in Baltimore. But
last night you get another danger from Tovar. He hits
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his fifth on the year. You get Tanner Gordon, who
was filling in for a hurt Armond Marquez.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Gordon not terrible this year.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
He's gotten a few starts, throwing a little six innings.
A scoreless baseball will help you out a little bit
in that era. It's three to one three.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Rockies with the good night last night at Coursfield closed
it out with the series win.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Somewhere in Italy on a nice warm coast, Yeah, I'll
bet Mark Moser is sipping on a nice glass of
Caberneice Sauvignon just laughing at Nolan Aeronauta right now. It
feels poetic that the one time he actually has amo
he could use, he's not on the show. I bet
he would just be living for this right Now's just.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's just such a weird sort of obsession to me.
Now I understand that my thoughts towards Nolan are much
different than what some other's thoughts are. It's funny everybody
looks at the state of the Rockies and says, how
dare Nolan for leaving? And I'm like, do you think
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maybe he saw what we're seeing right now just ahead
of the curve, and was like, I can't do this.
I think it's always been the case.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well, Jeff Bridige went to what was it, Harvard Brown. Yeah,
he's something, so he knows more than us. So we
just need we just needed to trust him because he's
smart and we're done, which is what he told us.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, and that didn't quite work out for him either. Again,
the trade deadline is a week away at the MLB,
and I hope there's a host of guys.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
For their own sakes, by the way, that are off
this roster.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Get some prospects in here and really really start to
bottom this thing out.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
You know. Again, the best example of this, I think
is Rymack.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Like if Rymack and Jake Bird, if either one of
them are still on the team after the deadline, I
think that's nuts. Both of those guys got to go
because they're valuable and they're not going to matter for
you in the next couple of years. They'll matter for
somebody else, and somebody else will be willing to give
something up to grab them.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
So do that broadcasting for the Backs in Shanker Studios.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Their passionate justice will love Jeff Lakewell join us at
eight forty five this morning. At nine o'clock, former buff
Marcus Washington will spend an hour with us in studio
breaking down some NFL in college football, So look stay
tuned for that at nine o'clock.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Back after this.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
It's a really good song though can't say it's not.
I mean, I don't know you can make us the
entire song about a style of underwear, but it's great.
It's really good. How does Cisco do this and nothing else?
I like the voice.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Also a great music video where he's just running across
a whole line of women on the beach. Oh yeah,
he's got the linen shirt just flying open. Yes, so
cheesy with them.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Michael Jackson like blowing in the wind thing.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, gotta love it. So listen.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Berto's gonna be in here in a few minutes again
while have Jeff Laweld forty five, Chris Washington and studio
for an hour to close out the show. It is
hard to compute the amount of money that the NFL
makes per year TV contracts in saying ESPN is now
(35:17):
looking at buying into NFL Red Zone and the NFL Network,
which I would assume is going to cause at least
a couple billy. But the Packers very famously are a
team that does not have a quote owner. They are
owned by the people kind of but not really a
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little bit sort.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Of, I'm an owner. I have a brick cool.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
The Packers received and I say that they're publicly owned
to say that they must disclose their revenues to the
people because it is not a private business. So they
disclosed that they received four hundred and thirty two point
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six million dollars in national revenue from the NFL last season.
So what you have to do after that is multiply
that by thirty two because that's how many teams are
in the NFL. And the total that you get for
revenue is thirteen point eight four billion dollars to its teams.
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So that's national revenue. Okay, So that is from media rites,
that is league sponsorships, that's licensing agreements in a whole
host of other things. That does not take into account
ticket sales and merch that you sell, and a whole
bunch of different stuff that you do, like within the stadium, concessions, parking.
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I mean, each of these teams are looking at making
a about a billion dollars. I would assume it's got
to be close, if not a lot more than that.
I have no idea if I'm even like shortchanging that.
But think about how much money that place just churns
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out on a daily basis. Like we know that NFL
is king very aware of it, that it doesn't really
matter what quite happens, the NFL will withstand whatever.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's always funny.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
To me, whenever you've had moments in which you thought
like the NFL was going to maybe take a hit
or something, they don't. They just continue to get bigger
and bigger. But that number is unbelievable, and you think
about how much cash is just I mean, it's an
ATM machine. You don't even need a pin number. You
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just walk up and you're like, bang on it, and
it just starts spitting out hundreds of millions at you.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
You're like, great, this is awesome.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
But for them to be able to do that is
wild and you start thinking about, well, how much I
always think about it like this, when's the peak? You
guys ever wondered that, when's the top of what the
NFL can do as far as money they make before?
I mean, every single product will have You can continue
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to grow and grow and grow, but it will eventually
come back down. It's going to hit whatever that ceiling
is and it's just gonna be done.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I thought about this in terms of.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
When you sell a franchise and all these different sports,
how those prices are going higher and higher and hire,
Like if you are an NFL owner, if you're Jerry Jones, like,
I forget what the Cowboys are worth now? What is
the Cowboys worth now?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So they are valued, according to Sportico at ten point
three to two billion.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
My guess is if they were to if Jerry.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Jones were to actually sell the team, it's going for
higher than that. But I've always wont to wars the cap.
What is it like, could a team feasibly get to
fifty BILLI? I don't think so, But they just continue
to make more money and there has to be some
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point where it's like, Okay, that's it. This is as
high as we can go. Anyway, how about that four
hundred and thirty two million just from a national rights
revenue for all thirty two teams in.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
The Way League.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Ryan Day at Big ten media Days, I hate this
kind of talk from and it happens always with college coaches,
well college coaches, and now Jim Harbaugh is what I'd
say he is. Ryan Day, I think has one of
(40:24):
the ultimate like bleep you sort of things where everybody
in Columbus wanted him fired after the Michigan game last year,
and then he went on to win a national championship
and then he got a giant extension. They asked him
about being defending national champions and here's what he said.
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We're not defending anything. They can't take the trophy away.
We're looking to attack and win a championship with this
team like that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
I'm just like, what you just answer the question.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
I don't know why people like this need to get
all cutesy with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Now what.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
We just had an example of that recently, Nelly, where
somebody did something similar and I can't remember what it was,
but it's like, would you just oh it was uh
Rory Rory before I believe it was the US Open
was asked like, hey, if you could take one aspect
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of the game from one of your competitors in the
field this weekend, what would it be? And he goes, well,
I'm just kind of a concerned about myself. It's like,
would you just answer the question? Isn't that hard? Same
thing with Ryan Day. Uh, we're not defending anything. Actually,
they can't take the trophy away from us. We're going
to We're going on the attack, all right, sweet? Who
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will coach answer? Like, yes, I don't think that somebody
is trying to break into your house or your school
and steal the actual trophy that you just won.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
He had another one too, how do you beat Michigan
quote by scoring more.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Points than them? Wow? Never thought of it that way.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
What a genius that's up there with the Torrian Prince
answer about Baylor getting out rebounded by Yale.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Well, here's the thing, though, he's lost to Michigan three
straight years. You can't do that in Ohio.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
And he lost to a Michigan team that didn't have
Jim Harbaugh in a Michigan team that was a mess.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh yeah, who was the fill in coach?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Who's sure? Searon Moore? Is that his name?
Speaker 6 (42:52):
And you remember they won a game when Harbaugh was
suspended and he was crying like Harbaugh had just died
or something.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
He was he was so nelly, I like, I still,
I'm finally getting a grasp of what that game means
to Michigan and Ohio State folks. I just asked my
Ohio State buddy, the same guy who won a day
fired after the Michigan game last year, then they.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Won a national title. What do you think of him?
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Now? Oh?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
My god, he's great, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
And I said to him, would you take the same
thing this year if you lost to Michigan but won
the national title again?
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Would you take it?
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
His answer was?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
No, he said he would do the opposite. He would
rather beat Michigan and lose the national title game. His
last year was great. Can't do that again. Like it's a.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Huge, huge, huge thing.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Whenever that game pops up, And look, Ryan Day has got,
you know, a whole bunch of tens of millions of
reasons to not care what I or anybody at Big
ten media days thinks or says. But it is like
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it's just a different type of standard that that place has.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
By the way, speaking of.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
College football, I do want to talk a little bit
more about Dion and what expectations should be for SeeU
this year, and we can do that later in the
show with Marcus Washington, who's former Buff and back and
forth to the program over the last few years, checking
things out. Will last him about that a little bit
later because I find that, you know, this is to
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me this season in which Dion has the most to prove.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
When you don't have.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Your son, you don't have the best player in college football.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
And Travis Hunter sort of.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Walking linked arm in arm with you into a football season,
which they've done every year that he's been a college coach.
How do you respond to that and continue to get
real viable football, and I think for him, he gets
his first real opportunity to not be dad and just
be coach, and maybe that'll help. Maybe you weren't going
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to get hyper focused on some other things, or every
time you're at a press conference setting, somebody's asking you
about your son. You know they can ask you about
your quarterback, just your quarterback, not your kid, and maybe
that'll help him. So we'll get to that in a
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
I hear that a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Is that overblowing that?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I think? So, I look, they're watching the We're all
watching the film throughout the year, So there's not this
one off season where there's a group of defensive coaches
sitting in a room for two weeks looking at bow
Knicks film. I mean that the study and looking at
the system, the players in the system. Yeah, I've heard.
(00:46):
I've heard that, and I kind of cringe when I
hear it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The idea of a not particularly but you hear about
sophomore slumps through the quarterbacks and wait, I do what
is that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Also?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What M's talking that?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I don't know. I'm just trying to think of them,
you know, I'm trying to think of the the MTV
one hit wonders, and there's not a lot of them
that come to mind.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I mean, I know that's Sean Payton again, a man
who does not lack.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
What I would say is confidence or ego.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
He's always going to be somebody who feels like he
has the upper hand in a situation.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
He's a confident head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
There's going to be no issue with this guy walking
into a building thinking that he is the smartest guy
in the room, and a lot of times he is.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
No.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Sean Payton's a really good coach, and so when he
makes the decision not just to take bow knicks, but
then to have success and where it goes from here,
I don't think that Sean Payton has a single fear
that there's going to be a step back this season,
and I've been on record I don't think so either.
(02:04):
You know, there is for Nicks, I think a separation
between what his rookie year was and what a lot
of other guys' rookie years are. He was thrown into
the fire immediately.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Number one.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
He was tasked with putting a whole bunch of things
immediately on his right shoulder. You know, when you have
situations across different rookie quarterbacks and what they face, you know,
how much are you are you really swimming upstream? It's
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something that I noticed immediately from last year.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Do you remember that draft?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
So a whole bunch of quarterbacks are taken and every
team's sort of makeup is different. But if you remember,
you went from Caleb Williams to Jaden Daniels to Drake
May to JJ McCarthy and then wait to missing somebody, oh,
(03:17):
Michael Pennix, JJ McCarthy, Bo Nicks, And I think out
of all of those teams, the worst predicament that you
could have been in as far as team makeup around
a rookie quarterback, I think is probably Drake May's. The
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Patriots just had really no talent. Defense was offense had
kind of nobody, and their offensive line was atrocious, so
much so that they've basically said out loud before the
season started last year, we aren't starting Drake May. He'll
get killed back there with this offensive line. And then
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they looked at who's just arter again was a Brisett,
and they said, hey, you go take the hits. So
I think theirs was probably the worst, But as far
as just pure offensively, I think the Broncos were the second.
The lack of big time playmakers on the roster last
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year was apparent. You know, Bo Nicks was almost leading
the team in rushing yards on ninety two carries. Last year,
he had four hundred and thirty. He was only eighty
three back of Javonte Williams, who led the team.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
They had one real weapon in Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
There were guys who had sort of spikes in peaks
and valleys, you know, Mims towards the end of the year.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Yeah, but the only guy you really relied upon was
Courtland Sutton.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And look at the other teams, Like I remember looking
at Chicago's roster heading into the season last year and
I'm like, so, wait a minute, Caleb Williams, who will
also start week one, is going to start with DJ
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Moore and Keenan Allen and Roma Donze and Cole Kmet
and DeAndre Swift and Roshawn Johnson. Like they kept it,
just kept going with guys who were really really talented
offensive players. The same thing with even if you thought Washington,
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like Jane Daniels had an amazing year, but Brian Robinson
Junior and Austin Eckler is a nice little one to
two punch in the backfield. Terry McLaurin is a very
good wide out. I think that their wide out situation
was a little bit more similar to what the Broncos were.
I mean, their second leading receiver was zach Ertz was
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sixty six catches and six hundred and fifty four yards.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
But they had a running game. At least.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
They had.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
A dude who ran for eight hundred yards. Now, a
big part of their running game was also Jaden Daniels.
You know, Atlanta, Atlanta's not even close. Like this is
part of the reason I think that Michael Pennix could
be a really good player this year. Their combo of
Bjean Robinson and Tyler Algier, along with Drake London as
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a weapon in the passing game. Darnell Mooney is a
very underrated wide receiver. Even the guy like Ray Ray
McCloud pretty good. I don't know what you do with
Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts is this enigma that I don't
(06:54):
even know how you handle for fantasy football players. You
know the Kyle Pitts game really well. Every year is
the breakout year for Kyle Pitts, and the breakout year
never happens. But I say all this just to tell
you I think from a raw talent standpoint. On offense,
the Broncos were I think second worst behind New England,
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and Bonix found a way to make them productive. The
question now for them is just more it's about consistency.
Can you get to a place where you're consistently moving
the chains, not having three and outs, keeping your defense
was very good off the field to get a breather occasionally,
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and then when you do make a mistake, because they're
bound to happen, they will, your defense can bail you out.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
But the reason why I think there's such high.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Variance on bo Knicks heading into this year's because bo
Nix is somebody that the numbers feel like they don't
quite match up with what you watched.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Last year. Bo Nicks had twenty nine touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
It's the second most for a rookie in franch or
in NFL history, and it didn't quite feel that way.
You know, you had basically a month of the season
before he even had a passing touchdown, and then it
started to take off, like you look at it like that.
He didn't have a touchdown passer the first three weeks.
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His first one came in Week four against the Jets,
and then in the subsequent thirteen weeks of the season
he totaled twenty eight touchdowns just through the air.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Off to see if I can find this sound by it.
But one of my favorite zingers related to football is
when RG three said statistics are like a bikini. They
show you a lot of stuff, but they don't show
you the full picture.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I mean it's it's true, and a lot of guys
get kind of fooled by that sort of game. But
here's kind of where I'm at with this. Sean Payton's
a really good coach, and like, I have full faith
that they are going to unlock sort of peak potential.
(09:20):
If I asked you last year, do you think the
Broncos got the absolute most out of last season that
they could. I think my answer is yes, they got
peak performance. It's why nobody was pissed off when.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
The season ended.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
It's a really hard place to be, by the way,
think about that for a second. Whenever the season ends
and it ends in the playoffs, especially, most people feel like, goodness,
we really just kind of blew that we had a
golden opportunity because most teams that make the playoffs have
championship sort of aspirations. Season ended for the Broncos and
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you're like, yep, that's kind of what I thought, because
you've you felt as if they hit their peak and
to do that with a rookie quarterback in year one,
fifty million dollars unused on the salary cap for Russell
Wilson's contract, a running game that was nonexistent, and one
real weapon on offense. If that's what the peak was
for that, then what's the peak for this year?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
This year?
Speaker 6 (10:25):
They're Dennis Reynolds peak. I have not begun to peak.
And when I peak, this whole city's gonna feel it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
You'll you'll know it.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Broncos are said to be a golden god this year.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
I hope so.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
By the way, so in that in that cut that
I opened the show with, I excuse me, much like
what we're hoping the Broncos don't do.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I just choked there on the spot.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
But anyway, so that cut of Sean Payton that I
opened the show with, he was asked about bo Nicks
and this concept of a sophomore slump, which everybody's been
throwing that around like it's the term dajore all off season,
and later in that cut he said this.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know, I'm trying to think of the the MTV
one hit wonders, and there's not a lot of them
that come to mind.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
What are some of your favorite one hit wonders that
hopefully aren't bon Nicks sports music otherwise.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I mean, there's he said, not a lot to come
to mind. There's a ton.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
I was gonna say that the fifties and the sixties
were like all one hit wonders, Eighties one hit wonders galore.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You couldn't think of anything sh on.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
I mean, there's a ton of one hit wonders everywhere.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
He's Look, you can go, oh, what's the one that
distinctly that's a stupid song, but it was always oh,
tub thumping.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
By Blamba, Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
But yeah, there's a million of them. He can't look.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Stacy's mom, I like that one fountains a Wayne.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Yeah, you know. But but Peyton is this is what
I think. I'm net. He said, there's not a lot
I can think of.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think in his mind he means well, at least
that I have experienced with, Like, he just thinks he's
good enough to go beyond that, and he very well
might be.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Again, he's got my.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Total faith and keeping this thing afloat and keeping it going.
I don't have a lot of fears of regression when
it comes to Bo Nicks, I have fears, some fears
of regression overall for the Broncos, and it's just because
winning in the AFC is hard. Winning in this division
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specifically is hard. But you should be able to get
back to the postseason and hopefully if the things that
you're missing last year, which is a little bit of
a running game, some depth defensivelyas especially in the secondary,
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and getting just a few more playmakers. If that's the
stuff that you're missing, they've done their damnedest to address
it and hopefully in the middle of this year it
can get figured out. But they're opening up camp and
there's a lot more quotes from Sean Payton yesterday. He
(13:25):
spoke for a long time, at least for Sean Payton's
m O. It was something or like what thirty minutes
is how long he stood up there at the podium.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
It was about and I'll tell you what This might
be silly, but in his very first answer, his opening statements,
so that this is he's talking before anyone's asked him
any questions. Yeah, he gave us not one, but two
relative twos. I was kind of getting a little misty man,
like we are so back. Yeah, Sean Payton. He was
snipping at reporters. We got another no no, no, no no.
(13:56):
We got relative twos, we got all his arms, we
got stories about his time in New Orleans. I mean,
I got bingo and I am so friggin stoked man.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
We are so back.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Got bingo on day one. It's tough to do.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
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Speaker 5 (14:16):
It's Will Heightwinds dot Com. Back after this, how's everyone doing.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
It's good to be back.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Of course, these early first few practices are are more
of a ramp up stage that we're in relative to
time and what we can do with pads. It was
pretty uneventful relative to yesterday. Everyone's arrival meeting schedule has
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been good. And then obviously it's a little different just
with the construction. And you know, I think we're fortunate
to still be open for business, if you will, for
our fans, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yep, that's Sean Payton.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
There's always just so many funny questions that has asked
the head coaches or people on these sort of media
I'm gonna call this a media day. I know it's
training camp, but it's like the time of year where
a whole bunch of people who don't usually go.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
And ask questions, ask questions.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
You know.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
That's where I think you get a question like this
in Tennessee yesterday, simple.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Question, the team you put on the field tomorrow, can
that team win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Listen, we have that's always the goal every year.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yeah, we also realize that we have a lot of
work to do on this roster.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
Yeah great. You know, I'll tell you something that I
think is wildly overrated. Okay, but people talk about this
stuff a lot. The did young quarterback hang out with
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the former star quarterback thing? You'll remember, like the stories
of Drew Locke was actually with Peyton Manning and they're
watching film together.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Okay, that's great.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I'm sure that you know, getting a nice little one
on one time with an all timer is somewhat beneficial,
But it's still kind of like, can you do the
job or not. I'll tell you this, if I just
hung around Jeff Bezos for a couple of days, I
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don't think I could run Amazon.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Yeah, but you'd meet some hot girls and end up
on the Epstein list. So you know, well, wow, that's
an accusation right there. I just assume any rich person
is probably on that list if you were big in
the nineties.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
I mean I suppose, yeah, I suppose so. But it's
Bo Nicks is meeting with Drew Brees and they hung
out and blah blah blah, and I'm like, Okay, that's great.
I'm just I don't I don't know why people get
so excited about something like that.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Now, I believe it's cut twelve here.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
But before that though, there's some context though. There was
an earlier question where Sean Payton was asked about the
marriage between a coach and a quarterback, attain and things
you can accomplish, and then, unprompted, in that answer, he
said this.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
He's he's someone that works his tail off, wants to improve.
You know, the whole off season is planned out. You know,
he's gone and visited Breeze for four or five days
and that's Tom hous In here, and there's there's a
lot that he wants to absorb.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Okay, so he volunteered that information, yes, and then the
cut I think you want to play was a fall
up questions, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Let's hear the cut twelve.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Just to clarify quot next that he's just got to
New Orleans for four or five days. In between the
no no, no, he Drew doesn't. Drew lives in San Diego,
and he spent some time going there just you know,
with it with the schedule and wanting to know more
about the offense. And so I'm sure I don't even
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know when he went, but I just know he went,
and uh yeah, I mean it was it was him
doing more research at the position.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Okay, So the no no no I thought was going.
I don't know if he was angry or not.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I don't think he was angry, but the no, no
no could have just been like that wasn't New Orleans.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
He lives in San Diego. He went there, I.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
No, no, no, he Here's.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Another thing that answer.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
And this is at least I'm a little curious about
this on what Sean Payton believes that the offense should
be under bow Nicks. Because if he said he's going,
he went to visit Drew Brees to learn the offense better,
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I believe is what he said.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Well, I don't think you could.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
You can't run the offense you had in New Orleans
here with bow Knicks because bow Knicks is and Drew
Brees a wildly different player. Like you can take some
things from that offense and do it, but bo Nicks's
ability to use his legs, bo Nicks's Drew Brees' ability
to be hyper accurate with the football. It would be like,
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hopefully ten years from now, when Jokic retires, and then
you you take a center with your first round draft pick,
and you hope the center is going to be good,
and you're like, yeah, you went to visit Jokic to
learn how to run the offense like we did under him.
It's like, well, you're probably not gonna He's a unique cat.
My guess is you weren't going to operate the same
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way as he did when he was here. But again,
there's just a trust factor with me when it comes
to Sean Payton and the Broncos. Now, speaking of Jokic,
I need to share something with you. We knew that
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it was bad. I had no idea that it was
this bad. So these guys it's called a nerd sesh
is their podcast.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So these guys are hoopeads that.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Are really big into numbers and stats, and they can
sort of rattle off a whole bunch of different dudes.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
So they played this game. It's a three and a
half minute clip.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Of the top ten backup centers to Nikola Jokic by points.
I remember, these are centers. These aren't like if you
took Jeff Green and you threw him at center when
Jokic was out. They're looking for guys who were They
have a center next to their name that were Jokic's
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backup point guards. So they're going through this top ten
by points scored as Nikola Jokic's backup center. I'm gonna
give you the names on this list, and I think
you're gonna be shocked.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
There were genuinely some names on this list that I
had never heard of before. This is insane.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
So actually, I'll give you guys a minute, like I
want you to go through in your head think about
who would be in the top ten. Remember these are centers, okay,
centers behind Nikola Jokic. So if they're like a power forward,
they stretch into a five. When Jokic leaves the floor,
that doesn't count. So I want to give you all
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a minute to just kind of think, like, who would
be the leaders in points as a backup center to NIKOLEA.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
Jokic, And this is in his career, all right.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
I'll go through the list, and I'm gonna go from
top to bottom, because I feel like the names at
the bottom of the list are more shocking than the
ones at the top. The backup center who has had
the most points as a backup to Jokic is Mason Plumbley,
which isn't I don't think a huge surprise. He had
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one eight hundred and forty three points. Second on the list.
This is already where I was shocked. Mason Plumbing number
one one, eight hundred and forty three. Second on the
list with six hundred and twenty one is Yusef Nurkic.
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The short amount of time that they played together, he
is second all time in points scored as a backup
center to Jokich. After that, at number three is DeAndre
Jordan with five hundred and fifty. At number four, go
ahead and go off the board, ladies and gentlemen. At
number four is Jeoffrey Laverne. At number five is Boogie
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Cousins with two hundred and seventy six. At number six
is Bull Bull, at number seven is JJ Hickson, At
number eight is Hartenstein, who was one hundred and four points.
At number nine is Thomas Bryant who barely played, and
at number ten is JaVale McGee.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
So when I saw this, the first thing I thought
of was because I thought I was going knots.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I'm like, why am I doing all this hemming and
hawing about Yonas valentionas.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
That's exactly why that.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
The second highest leader in points for a backup center
to Jokic is Nurkic, who they basically just crossed paths
at the same time.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
That's why it matters. That's why it was so invested.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Greece.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
If you're listening, this is why we need our jonas.
If anybody in the Nation of Greece can tell me
who Jeoffrey Laverne is, I'd be very surprised. Are there
any Punathan Nakos fans who know who JJ Hickson is.
This is why we need our Jonas. This is why
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Javail McGhee is on that list. That's crazy talk.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I'll tell you right now. I don't know who Jeoffrey
Laverne is see.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
I told you there were names I didn't recognize, and
also the spelling of his name Laverne la uv e
r g n e. Yeah, and it's Jeoffrey, like Prince Jeoffrey.
It's French. I have never heard of that man in
my life, I swear to God.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, it's probably because in twenty eighteen or since twenty
eighteen he's been playing overseas. But this is kind of
the point here, when you have that sort of situation
at backup center and you're trying to figure out one
viable option to throw behind him to just keep things afloat.
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When you don't have that, you force guys to play
out of position. When guys play out of position, bad
things happen. So finding Yonas Valancionas and having him here
is a massive boost. It's like it's something you never
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you never had before.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I know. It's it's kind of like just finding out.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You had a extended relative who passed, who just gave
you a ton of money that you had no idea about.
That's what Valentunas is gonna feel like. That actually, says
does Yonis Valentnas jump the top five after one season
it's very possible.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
So let's just see here yonas valentiunas.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
So last year he was mostly a backup, and in
those backup minutes he averaged let's just call it ten
points a game. So in seventeen ish minutes per game,
he averaged ten. If he does the same thing here,
and he he's a healthy guy, He's been healthy most
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years of his career.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Let's say he.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Plays eighty games and averages let's say seventy games, seventy
games where he averages ten points per that would put
him at seven hundred, which would make him by far
number two on the list in one season.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
It's why, like I always sort of.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I was sort of pined for the days of Mason
plumbling And it's just because Mason Plumbley.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Was reliable.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
That's why he was there for at least a couple
of years. Is that you would put him in behind
jokicch and you're like, look, is it Yoki's level play?
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Is it anything stellar?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (27:54):
But it's fine, And I've been begging for fine for years.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
And also the Nuggets could lose a game by like
twenty or thirty points and no matter what happened, good
bad or indifferent. Michael Malone would always turn on his
microphone and go the only guy that showed any effort
out there was Mason Plumley. He's the only guy that
wanted to play there today.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
That is true.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Mason was He's a tryhard guy. And that sounds like
an insult, but it's the truth.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
No, he was the I feel like every other night.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
In his postgame press conference, Malone just praised Plumbley for
his effort and every every stereotype you want to throw
out there about like a white tight end. Yeah, he
would say about Mason Plumley, real workhorse, real scrappy player.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
He's like a full back. He's like a Janovitch, the
first guy.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
On the field, last guy off the field.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
But I miss that because you want especially with Malone,
and I really don't know if adalman in this category
is all that different, Like you're gonna have to put
effort on the floor if you want to play, especially
for this team, especially with the depth that they have now.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
Mason Plumbley.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Was in the trusted category, which is very hard for
you to get in in a Mike Malone coach team.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I just.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I saw that list yesterday in It blew my mind
with what that backup situation has been. So if you
want to, by the way, if you want to make
the argument that a Hartenstein or Thomas.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Bryant or Bull Bull.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Or somebody else was like wasn't given the opportunity, I
mean I suppose you could. But yeah, Texas is Plumbley
was pretty good, but I hated him after leaving a
d wide opening Game two of the twenty twenty Western Conversation.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Yeah, I remember that play.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
I mean it's miss communication, scramble whatever, Plumbley. Well, the
fact that Plumley was trusted enough. How about this. It's
the end of Game two of the Western Conference Finals.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And Plumbley was trusted enough to be on the floor
in the final seconds.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I know it was like a late defensive sub to
try and avoid exactly what happened, But still, when's the
last guy that played center that you could trust like that?
So three h three five oh four nine two five
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The Rocks get a shutout yesterday. Here's a little factoid
towards that the Rockies, in their had their first shutout
yesterday since May fifteenth of twenty twenty four. That's twenty
twenty games, the longest streak without a shutout in MLB history.
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Just setting records left him right. But if you're keeping
track at home, you know this was a series against
the Saint Louis Cardinals, hated rival, also took Arnado from you.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Blah blah blah. Series win, and that makes.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Two to row for the Rocks, as they won the
two of the three in the series against the Twins
and then the three against the Cardinals. They got the
Orioles coming up tomorrow at five o'clock in Baltimore. But
last night you get another danger from Tovar. He hits
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his fifth on the year. You get Tanner Gordon, who
was filling in for a hurt Armond Marquez.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Gordon not terrible this year.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
He's gotten a few starts, throwing a little six innings.
A scoreless baseball will help you out a little bit
in that era. It's three to one three.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Rockies with the good night last night at Coursfield closed
it out with the series win.
Speaker 6 (32:14):
Somewhere in Italy on a nice warm coast, Yeah, I'll
bet Mark Moser is sipping on a nice glass of
Caberneice Sauvignon just laughing at Nolan Aeronauta right now. It
feels poetic that the one time he actually has amo
he could use, he's not on the show. I bet
he would just be living for this right Now's just.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's just such a weird sort of obsession to me.
Now I understand that my thoughts towards Nolan are much
different than what some other's thoughts are. It's funny everybody
looks at the state of the Rockies and says, how
dare Nolan for leaving? And I'm like, do you think
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maybe he saw what we're seeing right now just ahead
of the curve, and was like, I can't do this.
I think it's always been the case.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
Well, Jeff Bridige went to what was it, Harvard Brown. Yeah,
he's something, so he knows more than us. So we
just need we just needed to trust him because he's
smart and we're done, which is what he told us.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Yeah, and that didn't quite work out for him either. Again,
the trade deadline is a week away at the MLB,
and I hope there's a host of guys.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
For their own sakes, by the way, that are off
this roster.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Get some prospects in here and really really start to
bottom this thing out.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
You know. Again, the best example of this, I think
is Rymack.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Like if Rymack and Jake Bird, if either one of
them are still on the team after the deadline, I
think that's nuts. Both of those guys got to go
because they're valuable and they're not going to matter for
you in the next couple of years. They'll matter for
somebody else, and somebody else will be willing to give
something up to grab them.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
So do that broadcasting for the Backs in Shanker Studios.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Their passionate justice will love Jeff Lakewell join us at
eight forty five this morning. At nine o'clock, former buff
Marcus Washington will spend an hour with us in studio
breaking down some NFL in college football, So look stay
tuned for that at nine o'clock.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Back after this.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
It's a really good song though can't say it's not.
I mean, I don't know you can make us the
entire song about a style of underwear, but it's great.
It's really good. How does Cisco do this and nothing else?
I like the voice.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Also a great music video where he's just running across
a whole line of women on the beach. Oh yeah,
he's got the linen shirt just flying open. Yes, so
cheesy with them.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
Michael Jackson like blowing in the wind thing.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, gotta love it. So listen.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Berto's gonna be in here in a few minutes again
while have Jeff Laweld forty five, Chris Washington and studio
for an hour to close out the show. It is
hard to compute the amount of money that the NFL
makes per year TV contracts in saying ESPN is now
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looking at buying into NFL Red Zone and the NFL Network,
which I would assume is going to cause at least
a couple billy. But the Packers very famously are a
team that does not have a quote owner. They are
owned by the people kind of but not really a
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little bit sort.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Of, I'm an owner. I have a brick cool.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
The Packers received and I say that they're publicly owned
to say that they must disclose their revenues to the
people because it is not a private business. So they
disclosed that they received four hundred and thirty two point
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six million dollars in national revenue from the NFL last season.
So what you have to do after that is multiply
that by thirty two because that's how many teams are
in the NFL. And the total that you get for
revenue is thirteen point eight four billion dollars to its teams.
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So that's national revenue. Okay, So that is from media rites,
that is league sponsorships, that's licensing agreements in a whole
host of other things. That does not take into account
ticket sales and merch that you sell, and a whole
bunch of different stuff that you do, like within the stadium, concessions, parking.
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I mean, each of these teams are looking at making
a about a billion dollars. I would assume it's got
to be close, if not a lot more than that.
I have no idea if I'm even like shortchanging that.
But think about how much money that place just churns
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out on a daily basis. Like we know that NFL
is king very aware of it, that it doesn't really
matter what quite happens, the NFL will withstand whatever.
Speaker 5 (37:47):
It's always funny.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
To me, whenever you've had moments in which you thought
like the NFL was going to maybe take a hit
or something, they don't. They just continue to get bigger
and bigger. But that number is unbelievable, and you think
about how much cash is just I mean, it's an
ATM machine. You don't even need a pin number. You
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just walk up and you're like, bang on it, and
it just starts spitting out hundreds of millions at you.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
You're like, great, this is awesome.
Speaker 4 (38:20):
But for them to be able to do that is
wild and you start thinking about, well, how much I
always think about it like this, when's the peak? You
guys ever wondered that, when's the top of what the
NFL can do as far as money they make before?
I mean, every single product will have You can continue
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to grow and grow and grow, but it will eventually
come back down. It's going to hit whatever that ceiling
is and it's just gonna be done.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I thought about this in terms of.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
When you sell a franchise and all these different sports,
how those prices are going higher and higher and hire,
Like if you are an NFL owner, if you're Jerry Jones, like,
I forget what the Cowboys are worth now? What is
the Cowboys worth now?
Speaker 5 (39:14):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:15):
So they are valued, according to Sportico at ten point
three to two billion.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
My guess is if they were to if Jerry.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Jones were to actually sell the team, it's going for
higher than that. But I've always wont to wars the cap.
What is it like, could a team feasibly get to
fifty BILLI? I don't think so, But they just continue
to make more money and there has to be some
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point where it's like, Okay, that's it. This is as
high as we can go. Anyway, how about that four
hundred and thirty two million just from a national rights
revenue for all thirty two teams in.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
The Way League.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Ryan Day at Big ten media Days, I hate this
kind of talk from and it happens always with college coaches,
well college coaches, and now Jim Harbaugh is what I'd
say he is. Ryan Day, I think has one of
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the ultimate like bleep you sort of things where everybody
in Columbus wanted him fired after the Michigan game last year,
and then he went on to win a national championship
and then he got a giant extension. They asked him
about being defending national champions and here's what he said.
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We're not defending anything. They can't take the trophy away.
We're looking to attack and win a championship with this
team like that sort of stuff.
Speaker 5 (40:55):
I'm just like, what you just answer the question.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
I don't know why people like this need to get
all cutesy with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
Now what.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
We just had an example of that recently, Nelly, where
somebody did something similar and I can't remember what it was,
but it's like, would you just oh it was uh
Rory Rory before I believe it was the US Open
was asked like, hey, if you could take one aspect
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of the game from one of your competitors in the
field this weekend, what would it be? And he goes, well,
I'm just kind of a concerned about myself. It's like,
would you just answer the question? Isn't that hard? Same
thing with Ryan Day. Uh, we're not defending anything. Actually,
they can't take the trophy away from us. We're going
to We're going on the attack, all right, sweet? Who
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will coach answer? Like, yes, I don't think that somebody
is trying to break into your house or your school
and steal the actual trophy that you just won.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Thank you very much for that.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
He had another one too, how do you beat Michigan
quote by scoring more.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
Points than them? Wow? Never thought of it that way.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
What a genius that's up there with the Torrian Prince
answer about Baylor getting out rebounded by Yale.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Well, here's the thing, though, he's lost to Michigan three
straight years. You can't do that in Ohio.
Speaker 5 (42:36):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
And he lost to a Michigan team that didn't have
Jim Harbaugh in a Michigan team that was a mess.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Oh yeah, who was the fill in coach?
Speaker 5 (42:49):
Who's sure? Searon Moore? Is that his name?
Speaker 6 (42:52):
And you remember they won a game when Harbaugh was
suspended and he was crying like Harbaugh had just died
or something.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
He was he was so nelly, I like, I still,
I'm finally getting a grasp of what that game means
to Michigan and Ohio State folks. I just asked my
Ohio State buddy, the same guy who won a day
fired after the Michigan game last year, then they.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
Won a national title. What do you think of him?
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Now? Oh?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
My god, he's great, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
And I said to him, would you take the same
thing this year if you lost to Michigan but won
the national title again?
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Would you take it?
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
His answer was?
Speaker 4 (43:25):
No, he said he would do the opposite. He would
rather beat Michigan and lose the national title game. His
last year was great. Can't do that again. Like it's a.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Huge, huge, huge thing.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Whenever that game pops up, And look, Ryan Day has got,
you know, a whole bunch of tens of millions of
reasons to not care what I or anybody at Big
ten media days thinks or says. But it is like
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it's just a different type of standard that that place has.
Speaker 5 (44:08):
By the way, speaking of.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
College football, I do want to talk a little bit
more about Dion and what expectations should be for SeeU
this year, and we can do that later in the
show with Marcus Washington, who's former Buff and back and
forth to the program over the last few years, checking
things out. Will last him about that a little bit
later because I find that, you know, this is to
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me this season in which Dion has the most to prove.
Speaker 5 (44:47):
When you don't have.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Your son, you don't have the best player in college football.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
And Travis Hunter sort of.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Walking linked arm in arm with you into a football season,
which they've done every year that he's been a college coach.
How do you respond to that and continue to get
real viable football, and I think for him, he gets
his first real opportunity to not be dad and just
be coach, and maybe that'll help. Maybe you weren't going
(45:16):
to get hyper focused on some other things, or every
time you're at a press conference setting, somebody's asking you
about your son. You know they can ask you about
your quarterback, just your quarterback, not your kid, and maybe
that'll help him. So we'll get to that in a
little bit. You can watch the show live on twitch
twitch dot tv. Search outitude ess are on the search
bar at the Altitude tv simulcast that is the Safeway
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