0:00 - Who will be the next Broncos to get paid after Sutton? What's the going rate?
14:30 - As Sean Payton starts to incorporate RJ Harvey into the offensive scheme, how's he looking? What are our initial impressions?
33:56 - Like clockwork. Brandon Jones is the first man on the field, barefoot, doing his shuffle/stretches. This guys is a machine. He needs a theme song. (I know you can't hear it because of copyright/HIPPA SUCKA, but it's The Cupid Shuffle)
14:30 - As Sean Payton starts to incorporate RJ Harvey into the offensive scheme, how's he looking? What are our initial impressions?
33:56 - Like clockwork. Brandon Jones is the first man on the field, barefoot, doing his shuffle/stretches. This guys is a machine. He needs a theme song. (I know you can't hear it because of copyright/HIPPA SUCKA, but it's The Cupid Shuffle)
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is six in the Morning with Brett Kine on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Check out Brett weekday mornings at six on Altitude Sports
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Signing the contract, you know, that was the biggest thing
for me, was being able to be here and you know,
bring back, you know, the the years that Broncos fans
have known.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know, the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Organization has such a long, long, historic tradition of being
successful and you all know that. You know, I've been
here through the thick and the thin, and you know,
there's a lot of promise on the other side of
the of the horizon here, and you know, to be
able to be here and to have more years of
being able to chase greatness, you know, with this great
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team that we have and with this great organization, you know,
that was one thing that I was looking forward to.
And you know, we have the best fans in football.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
If he didn't say a word, the young guys watch
his preparation and his work work ethic, but yet obviously
his experience with all of those players, but it really
starts with his preparation in here onto the field. He's
everything you want to probe. You know, the contract isn't
(01:21):
the end all be all.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The contract was just allowing me to have that stability
to say, Hey, you're going to be here for the
next four years and the things that are possible are
still attainable, and I look forward to you know, I
look forward to chasing os. You know, we we we're
putting together a great camp over the first first week
in two days. And I think that the guys are hungry.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That is the newly paid Courtland Sutton. As look, Courtland
has earned every bit of the contract he played last
year on an incentive laden deal, and I think that,
you know what, much like we've been talking about with
Nick Benito and guys that are wanting to get a
(02:06):
couple of deals done, there is the same sort of
conversation that's happening surrounding Courtland Sutton, which is, hey, if
you want this money, you want a chance to go
extend first of all your tenure here in Denver, but
second of all, get some cash in your pocket, go
out and prove it. And that's one of the better
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things that it's for Courtland. I had the opportunity, or
at least I had the the goal set in front
of me of I want to go out and have
a good year, not just for myself, not just for
my team, but also for my future. And when you
cash in on something like that, it's huge. I was
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one of the guys. I was never a Courtland hater.
I was never a Courtland doubter. I was a Courtland
skeptic on where is the peak of his game and
where can it go? Remember early in his career he
had that really good season where he put up about
twelve hundred yards, yeah, eleven hundred yards and seventy two catches,
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six touchdowns. Following year plays one game, has the knee
injuries out for the rest of the season, and just
didn't quite look the same the couple of years after
that could be a combination of bad play calling, bad team,
bad quarterback, bad whatever. But then the year that Russell
Wilson got here. Remember how upset he was when Russell
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Wilson left. And I think a huge part of that
was he had his biggest season of his career in
the touchdown category. He caught ten of them. Now only
had fifty nine catches for seven hundred and seventy two yards.
But after seeing all those stack up, I was like
man for a guy who's only got one one thousand
yard season and has been really trying to grind his
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way back from a knee injury. What is the ceiling
of this player and what does the player deserve on
a team like this? And I think the Broncos were
kind of thinking the same way last year, to be
honest with you, like that's why they didn't give him
the extension last year. Remember, he was actually holding out
of at least mini camps before training camp started. He
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showed up, did his work after that, but he wanted
a contract extension, and the Broncos did not do that.
They said, here's some incentives, here's an opportunity to make
some more money if you can go out and play well,
and then we can talk about it after that. But
I really think that was saying, hey, if you want
a new contract, here's your tryout, because if you don't
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hit this in this number, or you don't have a
season that we deem worthy of a bona fide number
one wide out on this team, then we're gonna look elsewhere.
And eighty one catches in eleven hundred yards and eight
touchdowns later, he's got at least a couple of more
years of security with guaranteed money, you know, a four
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year contract overall. And I think it's a classic case
of if you really want to get the bag, then
go out and do your job at a high level.
You know. It's it's kind of what I'm thinking about
with Nick Benito. I know they're having discussions about a
contract extension. It's a matter of what's the money going
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to be. Well, Nick Benito, if you want to be
the league's like top five sort of edge rushers as
far as being paid, you had thirteen and a half
sacks last season, you were a second team All Pro,
you finished ninth in Defensive Player of the Year, Go
out and do it. Do it again, give me a
fifteen sixteen seventeen sax season, and then you can get
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paid whatever the hell you want. You know. I love
Benito because of his versatility and his ability to be
an athlete, which is not just rushing the passer, but
he can take some people out of the backfield, he
can drop back into coverage, he can like he's just
very quick laterally where he's not going to allow guys
running the football to get outside of him until he's
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funneling things back in like he does a really good
job of that stuff. But it's kind of been just
one year. You know, he had a decent second season
in the league. Eight sacks isn't like that's nothing, But
eight sacks isn't top of the market. So you went
from a pretty good season to a really good season.
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And if you want to get paid in that thirty
some million dollar a year range, then go ahead and
prove it. You know. I think the same thing between
him and Zach Allen's a little bit different story. Zach
Allen has been the same type of player virtually every
year he's been in the league, even dating back to
his Cardinals' days. Not to mention, I think it's a
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lot harder to find a really good interior defensive lineman
that can create pressure. I just think those guys are
way more rare. Somebody who can blow up a play
from the inside. There's only a few of them that
exists that way, and Zach Allen is most certainly one
of them. And so you've got a couple of guys
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looking for contracts along with John Franklin Myers, who feels
like he's next. The funny thing about Franklin Myers, he
is going to be the cheapest option out of the
three we just talk about. But it's a matter of
these guys all have like a cap table and what
is going to happen for years moving forward? Can you
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fit all of that under the cap. You're certainly in
an advantage right now because of the rookie contract at quarterback,
but still it's a lot of guys that need to
be paid. And I will say this in the same
way that the Avs have run into this problem, in
the same way that the Nuggets have run into this problem.
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You seem to have to let good players go because
you can't afford them in when your team's good. You
ever notice how bad teams don't really have problems affording guys.
Never noticed that it's because they have bad players who
don't deserve to be paid. When you have a situation
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in which you're kind of stuck in, we have so
many guys that deserve extra money because they've earned it,
because they're good, we need to decide which ones were
willing to keep. That is the balance of when you
become a good football team is who are the guys
who are the ones that we need and who are
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the guys that we feel like would be nice to have,
because once guys start getting paid, the nice to have
group kind of flies out the window. But Courtland Sutton
has earned every bit of this contract. The texture says
you were a Courtland realist. I think that's a fair
way to put it. Like I've always and I still
(09:00):
kind of feel this way. You know, there is an
elevated level to Courtland because he is, I think, more
valuable on this team than he would be on many
others across the league. But you know, it's kind of
like you put him in a ball of different running
backs across the league, and where does he stack up?
And I don't know where that would be. I've kind
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of thought I always kind of hovered around twenty, you know,
twenty maybe give or take a few either direction. But
that's the thing about what his contract is. He got
paid that way. He wasn't asking for like the moon
in all of this, and it made it a lot easier.
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And so when you have somebody under that contract, I'm
telling you what I'm most excited about. Like, we've been
out here at camp for what day is this, Jesse?
Is this our fourth day? Fifth fourth day? Watched a
few of these practices. Now, I'm telling you there is
a different vibeyard camp. This is a team for the
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first time since I've been here where you're looking at
them in training camp and there is no hoping or wishing.
It's like they're good. They're a good team. It's a
matter of how good they're going to be. And some
people if you're in the Diana Rossini and Chase Daniels
group of thought, which they have been for the last
two years, and to their credit, they were right last year.
They were really optimistic and high on the idea of
(10:27):
what the Broncos could be this year. There is a
tangible reason for it, like the team's legitimately good. When
I look out here and you talk about weaknesses as
far as the starting twenty two, I don't think you
see a whole lot. Like you really have just solid
players across the board and in some spots really really
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good players. You know, once you get to the depth
portion of things, it's like, yeah, the depth probably could
use a pretty big boost. But considering where they were
at two years ago and the money that they didn't
have to deal with, that's still in better shape than
I thought it would be. Uh, But you go around
any NFL camp. You go to Kansas City or I
(11:11):
guess Saint Joseph, Missouri. Uh, you go to Dallas, you
go to Los Angeles, you go to Philly, you go
to Detroit, you go to wherever. All of these teams
are going to tell you, what are you concerned about injuries? Depth? Like,
it's just it's a constant. So that's not a unique
situation to the Broncos. But what I'm telling you is
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they in their starting lineup don't seem to have a
spot where you're like, ooh, that can be exploited. Like
I'm even I'm I'm even talking about the running backs.
I told you yesterday. The thing I'm most excited about
this year is it looks like you can actually have
a viable running game if you want to. And I
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say if you want to, just because there's still the
group out there that think said, Sean Payton's gonna refuse
to run the football, well, I'm telling you there is
no excuse for it this year. I was the one
that was being the Sean Payton apologies last season to
a certain extent because even with the limited let's say
that he thought he had a limited deck to work with.
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As far as his running backs, you still had to
try and at times he didn't even do that. That's
not going to be an excuse this year. They have
multiple people that I think can run the football and
do it effectively. R. J. Harvey's got explosiveness in a
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way that you haven't had for years. The same thing
with JK. Dobbins. You know, they're still trying to get
the object estimate thing going. I don't know if it's
going to work or not, but Sean Payton is speaking
about him in a way that's like, Hey, I'm really
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rooting for this guy. But there is not going to
be an excuse this year, like, well, guess what, we
had a third and two, but I'm just not comfortable
putting the ball in the hands of X. You have
two guys that I think you're going to be able
to trust both in that situation. So we can get
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our first kind of look here in about a week,
because we got what is it Wednesday? We get the
Hall of Fame game tomorrow the Broncos win's their game? Jesse?
Is it? It's win the ninth? Okay? Is that Friday? Saturday?
So the first games on Saturday, you can get it
for I doubt that any players of quote substance are
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probably going to play here, but you get a look
at a couple of rookies at least out of the gates,
I would assume. Want to let you guys know, eight
o'clock this morning, we'll have an announced man that I
think you're gonna like. It's a big deal, And I'll
just tell you Altitude Sports Radio loves football. That's what
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the theme revolves around. And we'll have a big announcement
at eight o'clock, So stay tuned for that. Three oh three, five,
four oh nine, two five shop Mazda text line, one price,
one person, one hour, Roll through some more audio from
Sean Payton and others from yesterday as we go along today.
But keep in mind eight o'clock this morning, we will
have an announcement, So stay tuned for that. Stick around.
(14:30):
Hold on, Steve, I'm making my bomb again. Uh. Yesterday
I put liquid IV a little like a powder packet
in a carbonated water and it just it blew up.
Jesse was covered in trapnel. It was a disaster. And
(14:51):
look at this, Jesse. We're all good. We're good. We
did a buddy and let me take a sipic. Sure
it's okay. I'm just good.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well this riveting radio right here.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Hey, well I needed a second, okay, Jesse. Sometimes when
you're on the road like this, I'm sorry, Nelly. Sometimes
when you're on the road like this, there's just you
need to figure things out on the go. Sometimes I
don't have enough time. Do you know how it is?
It's a six o'clock hour. There's no like when Mose
goes to the bathroom and takes eighteen minutes to come
(15:21):
back from a segment, Like I'm here to take over
for him. I got no, there's no help. Jesse could
have started the segment. Look at me, He's just sitting
there a pidle on his phone. Now, I just need
a teammate, that's what I need.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Fins.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Thank you, Jesse. I'm telling you, I think the home run.
I like that better than Spins. I'm being honest. Home run.
That call that you had, it looks like, uh, it's
against the wall. Oh no, home run just very matter
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of fact. Hey, So we're just talking about Courtland and
sort of like him earning his way through it, and
the idea of earning it is very important to obviously
younger players. When you're a rookie on this team, you're
John A. Barron, you are and you're all these are R. J. Harvey,
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You're Pat Bryant, You're all these different guys. A lot
of guys on defense. Q Robinson. You need to earn
your way into playing time. We all know that. And
then sometimes it's just obvious that this guy's going to play.
And I think that we've seen that in the past,
you know, with it wasn't like that, if you remember
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last year with bo Nicks, there was a battle. But
I have this long standing sort of thought when it
comes to rookie quarterbacks and rookies who if you're battling
a veteran who's not a proven commodity, and no disrespect
to Jared Stidham, but he's not that I'm talking about. Like,
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if you're battling at Joe Flacco, or you're battling a
Russell Wilson, or your battling somebody like that that's been
in the league for a long time, you kind of
know what they're ceiling in their floor is if you're
battling against someone like Stidham, Stidham needs to be head
in shoulders above where the rookie quarterback is and he
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just wasn't. They were kind of the same. And so
with that, bo Nicks ended up getting the nod for
Week one and then started every game throughout the course
of the year. Now. RJ. Harvey is an example of
a guy We're only a few days in the camp,
but I think he's gonna play and Nelly for whatever reason,
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I don't know if the email didn't come through here.
I don't have the cut sheet in front of me,
but I know that, Uh Peyton talked about r J.
Harvey yesterday and he had a couple of really nice runs.
One where it was a run to the left and
he got blown up in the backfield. He just kind
of planted, turned around, took it the other way for
at least fifteen yards before he got touched. And that's
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the kind of speed and explosiveness that just hasn't existed
and he's got that. And I think that JK. Dobbins
has it too. But you drafted RJ. Harvey with a purpose,
and the purpose wasn't that he was going to sit.
You know, there's a difference between an addric estima and
a Jalil McLoughlin and an RJ. Harvey. And here's the
biggest difference. There was real high end draft capital that
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was expended on taking RJ. Harvey a fifth round pick.
On adric Estime is a flyer. An undrafted free agent
rookie signing from Julia McLoughlin is a dart throw. That's
the difference. You know, I've said this before. People talk
about oddric Estime, especially last year, as if he was
a guy that you drafted, like in the early first
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round or early second round, and I'm like, he he's
a fifth round pick. Fifth round pickskick cut all the time.
There wasn't, like, I don't think, huge expectations for him.
There was a there was a like an absolute I
guess lure to like just his body type, his style
of running, like that sort of thing. But this isn't
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something like George Payton's very very good at evaluating talent.
He would not lose sleep if a fifth round pick
just didn't pan out. That's kind of what just happens.
But do you got this audio here Nelly on Sean
Payton talking about R J. Harvey.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, did you want the one where he's talking about
his I believe was his pass his passing protection skills.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I would actually love to hear that play that
one first, Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because that is the only one I could find. And also, hey,
if you guys want to know a little peek behind
the curtain of the fast, break neck pace that we
lead the six am show. I never had send on
the emails, so you should have it now.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Ah that makes more sense, all right, cool?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, but let's yeah, I think for and look for
him specifically the protections, the speed of the game. He
had a run today that was something, and you know,
we kind of turned and looked at each other. But
you know, there's that uh learning curve for all of
those young players, but in some of it it happens
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a little quicker maybe than than others. But but he's
doing he's doing exceptional.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
This should be an actual test. By the way, it's
the we looked at each other test. I think that's
a real thing. When you're you're watching somebody play that
you haven't watched play before. Have you ever done this
where you've just been like you give him that look
like like hmmm, uh that looks a little different. Like
that just happens organically and naturally, and there's a there's
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a lot of that that I think is to r. J. Harvey,
not to the past protection part. We all know that
if you're gonna play in Sean Payton's system as a
running back, that that is it's not something that's nice
to have. It's a necessity, like you won't see the
field without it. And maybe you don't have to be
great at it, but you have to be willing, you know.
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And there's a big difference between those things. Uh, there's
plenty of guys in the NBA that are bad defenders,
but they're willing defenders, which means they're gonna put forth
the effort, they're gonna try and do everything right. Maybe
they don't have the requisite skills. You know. Everybody kind
of talks about defense, especially in the NBA, as this
thing like, well, it's a matter of effort. Everybody can
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play it, it's just if you want to. And that's
not true. There's plenty of guys who want to play
good defense and just cannot. Okay, you think that Jokic
and him not being a good rim protector is a
matter of wanting to or not, or is it a
matter that his vertical is probably like eighteen inches and
he doesn't move all that well vertically, Like that is
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the key. Now. RG Harvey's got a lot to learn
in that area, by the way, But first of all,
being willing and being coachable are pretty huge steps. Now,
remember a lot of these guys with these college offenses,
some of them are like very much pro style whatever
you want to call it, but a lot of them
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are still you know, you're getting your plays off of
Q cards on the sideline. And in the offense that RJ.
Harvey ran at UCF, my guess is past protection wasn't
a huge thing. He's probably going out and trying to
make some plays in the passing game, that'd be my guess.
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And when you have that, you're kind of swimming upstream
a little bit and trying to get yourself acclimated to
figuring that stuff out. Now, going back and looking at
his numbers at UCF, so like, here's the thing that
you get excited about. He ran for fourteen hundred yards
his senior year and then he got an extra senior year.
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I don't know if that's red shirt senior. I don't
know if that's if that's you know, the graduate thing
where it's the extra COVID year, whatever it was. He
ran for almost sixteen hundred yards. He averaged six and
a half yards to carry his career at UCF. And
as far as catching the ball out of the backfield,
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he had about twenty catches each season out of the backfield,
but when he did catch the ball, he averaged about
twelve yards per play, which is huge. You know. That's
one of the things that was really really bizarre looking
back to the Broncos last year in what some of
their numbers were, it's very much they use their running
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backs out of the backfield. Sean Payton's done that in
all these different offens offenses including back in New Orleans.
But when you look at the raw numbers that the
running backs put up from catching the ball out of
the backfield, Javonte had fifty two catches for three hundred
and forty six yards, was less than seven yards a catch.
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The big one that surprised me was Julia McLoughlin had
twenty four catches for seventy six yards. So just to
put that in context, when Jalil caught the ball out
of the backfield, it averaged a full yard one point
two yards less than if you gave him the football
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in the running game, which seems impossible. When you get
you hit somebody for a pass, you figure you're getting
at least six seven yards. But that wasn't the case.
And you look at some other teams across the league
and kind of like what their numbers looked like, and
how did it look when they caught the ball out
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of the backfield, and blah blah blah. It was just
it wasn't a part of the offense. And usually it's
a staple of what Sean Payton wants to do. So
Texas says, the Broncos waste fifth round picks all of
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the time. That's why the roster has been trash for years.
Look what the top teams who draft at the bottom
of each round do with late picks. Wasting draft picks
kills your cap situation. If you think that the Broncos
haven't hit on later round picks, than your nuts. It's
all George Peyton could do. For years, he hasn't had
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first and second round picks because they've been traded to
New Orleans in Seattle, and the Russell Wilson and Sean
Payton moves the reason you have a viable football team
is because he's at least done okay on that front.
Like if you think the Broncos haven't done that, it's
just that they aren't gonna hit on every single guy.
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So I'll go through it. Since Sean, I'm sorry, George
Peyton took over, which was Nellie? Can you look that
up for me? What year was his? Was George Peyton's
first year? I believe it was? This was it Sir
Tan's year? Right? Was that his first pick? I think
it was because the year before that was Jerry Judy
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and that was that was an LA pick. Right.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He took over in twenty twenty one January twenty twenty one,
and I'm pretty sure that that was the NFL Draft
where they took PS two.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So they took Sirtan in the first round, Javonte in
the second, which didn't work, Quinn Minors in the third.
I think that one worked out alright. Cayden Stearns was
a pretty good player in the fifth round. Uh So
sort of missed out on Baron Browning in the third round.
He had some injury problems. Jamar Johnson was a safety
they took in the fifth didn't really work out, Seth
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Williams and the sixth round, and then he got Jonathan
Cooper in the seventh, which I think you could say
is a pretty good hit. So he hit on the
first round pick, which is first and foremost what you
have to do. You can't miss on those did that.
In the third round, got an all pro level offensive lineman.
That's pretty good, and in the seventh round got a
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starting ed rusher. I would say it's pretty good. The
next year, Nick Benito was the last pick of the
second round, essentially a third rounder. I think that's worked
out pretty well. As far as the other picks in
that draft. That's one that you could say maybe some misses.
But Wattenberg was drafted in the fifth round. He's your
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starting center. I'm telling you right now. They still have
hopes for Ajasa Riquez. Remember that was the fourth round
pick from that year. They got suspended for the gambling issue,
and he's finally back to being here full time now.
Year after that, Marvin Mims in the second rounds worked
out pretty well, Riley Moss in the third round worked
out pretty well. Drew Sanders is a third round pick.
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Remains to be seen. They like him if he can
stay healthy. And then Jales Skinner was a sixth round
pick and alex Fordsythe was a seventh Both of them
still on the roster. And then last year, Bonick's first
pick pretty good. Jonah Ellis was a third round pick.
I think that was pretty solid. Five sacks in his
rookie year with a stacked defensive line and very limited
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time to get on the field. Troy Franklin remains to
be seen. I think Chris Abrams drain is the same thing.
So Franklin was a fourth round pick. Drayne was a
fifth estimate. I think still remains to be seen. He
was a fifth rounder. And then who'd he taking the seventh?
Oh yeah, Devon Vley? How's that working out? Like, you
cannot say that George Peyton hasn't hit on late picks.
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It's been the reason why they are viable. What do
you think they built this team through free agency? They
don't have money. So, like all I'm telling you is,
if you're looking for this team to be built off
of fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks, your nuts. Those
are the guys that fill in the cracks. Those are
your depth players, and every once in a while, you
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find a couple of them that become really good, and
he's done that. There's I'm just telling you guys right now,
I will get very defensive when it comes to George
Peyton because I think that he's one of the best
gms in the league. I do tell me the stuff
that he's missed, and you can. You can bring up
the Russell Wilson stuff. I think ninety five percent of
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gms would have done everything the exact same way he did.
They actually waited, you know, remember in that collusion case,
Russell Wilson asked for was it like three hundred and
some million dollars guaranteed? And they're like, uh no, that's
not gonna happen. But they were the ones who are like,
we kind of wanted to wait for this, but I
think they felt like they had their hands tied. I've
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said forever. The worst thing that he's done, I think
worse than the Russell Wilson and stuff is the Hacket signing.
That's the word pick benislam dunk. No, no teams do that,
but a lot of them have. Like I think, you
find a really hard time criticizing George Peyton for think
about what he had to deal with. Now, you could
(30:17):
say he made the bed, so he had to or
he made the mess he had to clean up his
own bed. Okay, fine, but think about what you're dealing
with here. You had a rookie quarterback who was starting
Week one with a team that was limited with fifty
million dollars that went unused in cap space. They didn't
(30:40):
have draft capital over the last few years, and they
finally do. Like, I don't think there is anything you
guys should be criticizing about George Payton when you look
at and the same text says, no GM would have
extended the Wilson contract. You're insane. So here's your idea.
(31:05):
Here's your idea, a grand plan. You give away multiple
first round picks, multiple second round picks, Shelby Harris, no
A fen Than, a host of other things for Russell
Wilson to play him for a year and then say, yeah,
this isn't working. Like, I know, that's how it worked
out anyway, but that's not what you make a trade for.
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Think about every trade that's happened that involves first round picks.
I'll give you one from a couple of years ago
that involved the Broncos. Do you guys remember when Bradley
Chubb got traded to Miami and that they somehow got
a first round pick out of that. Remember that What
did Miami do three days later? Extended his contract? Because
when you give up capital like that, you're planning on
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that guy being here long term or what's the point
of making the move? It's simple, like it's almost economics
at that point. You make the investment like it'd be
like I'm going to a house and I'm planning on
paying the mortgage for a year and then moving out, Like, well,
that's I don't know a lot about money. I know
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that's a terrible investment. That's not how you should do business.
Maybe you should have rented the house, but you don't
do that, And you can play the hindsight game that well,
if you did it my way, I would have been right, Well,
I'll been good for you. That's not how business works.
Oh good for you? Yes? What is that? So that's
(32:30):
Christian Bale? Is he yelling at somebody during Uh? Was that? No?
Tom Cruise did the big yell during right?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It was a freak out on set. I think it
was during one of the Batman films, like some lighting
guy was getting in the way of this shot, or
that may have been The Dark Knight or The Dark
Knight Rises.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, guess what that guy was certainly wrong then, because
those those movies are amazing. If you're telling me you
can't sit down for a couple hours and just enjoy
one of those Batman films with Christian Bale, then I
think you're insane. And I'm not even a comic book
superhero guy. I don't watch those movies, but I love those.
So maybe that lighting guy was you know what, you
(33:08):
should have been reprimanded. Oh no, I knows what he's
talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, God, it was Terminator Salvation and oh there was
some some camera operator or the director of photography or
something who was who was caught walking through a shot.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, in that case, I haven't seen that movie. Christian
Bale stopping so mean.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I just love to stop it. I always forget that
he's Welsh, and so you can kind of hear it
coming out in that clip that he's he's got the accent.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh oh, Nelly, you know as well as anybody, you
can't forget he's Welsh anymore. Because he said to Moser
oh doubt shit, his dreams I've gone. I mean, that's
what That's the only way I can remember that that
guy is is he has an accent. Is just from
that clip. So anyway, three oh three, five oh four,
(33:54):
oh ninety five. Big announcement at eight o'clock this morning Instagram, Nelly,
it's that time. We're out here at Broncos Park training camp,
covers and now to Dude Sports Radio is powered by
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It's that time. It's six forty five. You guys all
know exactly what that means now because I bring it
up every single day. Every single day I bring this up,
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and so it's time for that one thing at six
forty five. There's a constant here at Broncos Camp. I
am glad I get to see this every day. It's
a man of integrity, a man of effort, and a
man of work ethic. And it'll pass by just at
the at the perfect time of this. In fact, Jesse,
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we're gonna turn that camera around when he comes by,
so you'll be ready for that. Nobody needs to see me.
This isn't my time. This isn't my thing. Every single
day this happens, Nelly, Queue it up, Queue it up
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sixty five every day here it can you know exactly
what happens. Our guy over here, Brandon Jones, he's got
headphones and I'm pretty sure he's listening to our show.
He comes by barefoot and starts to do his shuffles
every day. Gotta love it. It's a man who has
a routine and routine oriented. And yeah, look at yeah,
get those kicks he's doing, right kick, left kick, he's
(35:20):
doing it. I'm telling you, I think he is listening
to our show. Tell me that doesn't look like it
fits to the beat, though Jesse does it not fit
perfectly with it. It's gonna be a new theme here
at camp. Whenever it's six point forty five, Brandon Jones
runs by me. We're playing the Cupid shuffle and look
at yeah, I get those knees going.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
See just like last time last year, still looks like
Jamal Murray from the back.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
He does, Yeah, he really does. But the barefoot Cupid
Shuffle from Brandon Jones. Let's all give it up. A
round of applause for Brandon Jones, for Grace, I guess
with your presence again, I think he's listening to the show.
I'm pretty sure. Get that camera back on me, Jesse
at the Brandon Jones Show. This is six in the
morning with me. Oh yeah, I just do you think?
(36:09):
I mean Emma's with an earshot. I get the headphones on.
I can't hear a response. But Jesse, do you think
if I tried to take my shoes off and do
some shuffling with them when I get tackled immediately? Yes,
it would make for good content. It would. Well, I'm
I'm going on vacation soon anyway, sounds like a good
little time to take a break. So hey, Nelly, on Friday,
(36:34):
my show might end at about six point fifty, so
we might have to make some plans for that. Again,
I'm a content guy. I want to make sure I
got that all sort of ironed out.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Actually, I have a time machine here, and I'm gonna
see if I can go into the future and predict
your fate if you try to run onto the field barefoot.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Again. Tell me this, though, Nelly, would that not be
the most viral piece of video that's emerged from any
training camp? Uh? Hang on, we were going to show
you some video of Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball to
DK Metcalf. But look at local radio hosts Brett Kane
get obliterated by Bronco security here. I mean, it's possible you.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Could fondly remember that moment from your jail cell.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yes, exactly right. People appreciated Jesse jumping on the mic
as well. That's always very nice. Dear from Jesse. Now,
few things here, I got some I can't look, man,
I don't know what to do with this information. Part
of me says good for you guys, and the other
part of me is what are we doing here? So
(37:41):
I fully understand that football in the South, especially high
school football, is just a different It's a different beast,
It's a different animal. Okay, I just saw from Joe
Pompilianum Buford High School in Georgia. Have you guys heard
of Buford? Probably not, you will. Now you want to
(38:03):
know why. Buford High School has officially opened its new
football stadium. So good for them. That's very nice. What
kid doesn't like new stuff. It costs sixty two million dollars.
There's ten thousand seats, fifteen luxury suites to a high
school football stadium. It's got a thirty five hundred square
(38:27):
foot scoreboard, video scoreboard, a two story field house with
locker rooms, and it's I would say, just looking at
this thing, it's nicer than a lot of like low
level D one stadiums, is what it looks like. And
(38:48):
you want the father Brett Kayne's opinion on this, I'll
give you the radio host, sports radio host Brett Kaine's opinion. Cool,
I'd love to play there. You want the father, Bret
Kaine's opinion, it's much different. What's your library look like?
That's the father's opinion. The sports radio hosts opinion is, Man,
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these kids are gonna be living in a life of luxury.
Father opinion is what's your grades? You deserve to play
on that field, like these guys out here, They've all
earned the right to be on this. How about you anyway?
Sixty two million dollars for a football stadium, and look,
(39:35):
I like high school football. I think it's a great thing.
It's great for your community, it's great for all this
like it's it's a beautiful thing. You think I'm paying
luxury sweet prices for a high school game, You're insane.
I would love to know what those are. In fact,
do they sell these tickets on ticket Master? There's ten
thousand seats. You probably do my high school football stadium.
(39:58):
You walked up with five dollars and they gave you
like a raffle ticket looking thing. Here, get in here, here,
take a stamp. That's what they do. I go to
the concessions. I get Nacho's for three bucks. Now, like,
do me a favor. Look up Buford High School football
tickets and see if you can find some sort of link.
(40:20):
There's got to be an online link to this. And
I want to know what those luxury sweet prices are
for a high school football game, because if we're talking
in the thousands, what are we doing here? And what
kind of school is this? Did Buford High School produce? Like?
The best is that it's Georgia. Who went to Georgia?
Is like Matthew stt No, Matthew Stafford's a Texas kid.
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I think, No, he is Georgia.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Well, we got we got to pick a marquee matchup.
I mean, do you want to see them play?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
In? Which school?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Do you want to see him play? Because we got
we got let's see, we got the Newton Rams versus
the Buford Wolves.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Now, no, no, not that one.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
The Clark Central Gladiators.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Which one is like mid season sort of homecoming weekend
feel to it. That somewhere around that time.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Okay, we got yeah, like October seventeenth, Perfect Gwinnett, the
Central Gwinnett Nights.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, I think that sounds like a great game to choose.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Unfortunately, that is an away game. I gotta find a
home here.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You give me a home game.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Buford's kind of teasing the release. You know, they're not
really uh dropping whole schedule here. Okay, do they have a.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Link to tickets? Just pick any game, any game. I
just want to see how much those tickets cost. They
have the luxury suite up.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I have not yet found the luxury suite prices. I'm
just finding the GA tickets and they're like eight bucks.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Okay, I want to know what's in that suite, Like
you just got a whole bunch of dad's boozing up
there during the game. What are we doing here? So anyway,
a lot more to get to from Camp three oh three, five, four,
nine five, shop maz to text on one price, one person,
one hour. We get Nelly back in the Backs and
Shanker Studios. Their passion is justice. So a lot more
(42:02):
audio from Sean Payton to get to today. Don't forget
we get the big announcement coming your way in about
an hour at eight o'clock. We got an announcement for
you that we will send that follows the theme of
Camp for us that Altitude Sports Radio loves football. So
we'll get there in just a second. I like this
new theme. By the way, Hey, when I'm gone the
(42:24):
days that I'm gone and Berto is filling in for me,
Ellie Burdo must adhere to the Cupid shuffle. Brandon Jones,
you must make him do that to night. We'll beat
you know what my daughter says. My daughter says to
morning instead of tomorrow morning. It's the cutest thing ever.
So tell it burto in the to morning that he
(42:49):
has to follow on with this Cupid shuffle thing for
Brandon Jones. We need to give the guy some love.
He's a really good safety. Have to do it all right,
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
Signing the contract, you know, that was the biggest thing
for me, was being able to be here and you know,
bring back, you know, the the years that Broncos fans
have known.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You know, the.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Organization has such a long, long, historic tradition of being
successful and you all know that. You know, I've been
here through the thick and the thin, and you know,
there's a lot of promise on the other side of
the of the horizon here, and you know, to be
able to be here and to have more years of
being able to chase greatness, you know, with this great
(00:52):
team that we have and with this great organization, you know,
that was one thing that I was looking forward to.
And you know, we have the best fans in football.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
If he didn't say a word, the young guys watch
his preparation and his work work ethic, but yet obviously
his experience with all of those players, but it really
starts with his preparation in here onto the field. He's
everything you want to probe. You know, the contract isn't
(01:21):
the end all be all.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
The contract was just allowing me to have that stability
to say, Hey, you're going to be here for the
next four years and the things that are possible are
still attainable, and I look forward to you know, I
look forward to chasing os. You know, we we we're
putting together a great camp over the first first week
in two days. And I think that the guys are hungry.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
That is the newly paid Courtland Sutton. As look, Courtland
has earned every bit of the contract he played last
year on an incentive laden deal, and I think that,
you know what, much like we've been talking about with
Nick Benito and guys that are wanting to get a
(02:06):
couple of deals done, there is the same sort of
conversation that's happening surrounding Courtland Sutton, which is, hey, if
you want this money, you want a chance to go
extend first of all your tenure here in Denver, but
second of all, get some cash in your pocket, go
out and prove it. And that's one of the better
(02:26):
things that it's for Courtland. I had the opportunity, or
at least I had the the goal set in front
of me of I want to go out and have
a good year, not just for myself, not just for
my team, but also for my future. And when you
cash in on something like that, it's huge. I was
(02:48):
one of the guys. I was never a Courtland hater.
I was never a Courtland doubter. I was a Courtland
skeptic on where is the peak of his game and
where can it go? Remember early in his career he
had that really good season where he put up about
twelve hundred yards, yeah, eleven hundred yards and seventy two catches,
(03:13):
six touchdowns. Following year plays one game, has the knee
injuries out for the rest of the season, and just
didn't quite look the same the couple of years after
that could be a combination of bad play calling, bad team,
bad quarterback, bad whatever. But then the year that Russell
Wilson got here. Remember how upset he was when Russell
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Wilson left. And I think a huge part of that
was he had his biggest season of his career in
the touchdown category. He caught ten of them. Now only
had fifty nine catches for seven hundred and seventy two yards.
But after seeing all those stack up, I was like
man for a guy who's only got one one thousand
yard season and has been really trying to grind his
(03:56):
way back from a knee injury. What is the ceiling
of this player and what does the player deserve on
a team like this? And I think the Broncos were
kind of thinking the same way last year, to be
honest with you, like that's why they didn't give him
the extension last year. Remember, he was actually holding out
of at least mini camps before training camp started. He
(04:17):
showed up, did his work after that, but he wanted
a contract extension, and the Broncos did not do that.
They said, here's some incentives, here's an opportunity to make
some more money if you can go out and play well,
and then we can talk about it after that. But
I really think that was saying, hey, if you want
a new contract, here's your tryout, because if you don't
(04:37):
hit this in this number, or you don't have a
season that we deem worthy of a bona fide number
one wide out on this team, then we're gonna look elsewhere.
And eighty one catches in eleven hundred yards and eight
touchdowns later, he's got at least a couple of more
years of security with guaranteed money, you know, a four
(04:58):
year contract overall. And I think it's a classic case
of if you really want to get the bag, then
go out and do your job at a high level.
You know. It's it's kind of what I'm thinking about
with Nick Benito. I know they're having discussions about a
contract extension. It's a matter of what's the money going
(05:21):
to be. Well, Nick Benito, if you want to be
the league's like top five sort of edge rushers as
far as being paid, you had thirteen and a half
sacks last season, you were a second team All Pro,
you finished ninth in Defensive Player of the Year, Go
out and do it. Do it again, give me a
fifteen sixteen seventeen sax season, and then you can get
(05:43):
paid whatever the hell you want. You know. I love
Benito because of his versatility and his ability to be
an athlete, which is not just rushing the passer, but
he can take some people out of the backfield, he
can drop back into coverage, he can like he's just
very quick laterally where he's not going to allow guys
running the football to get outside of him until he's
(06:05):
funneling things back in like he does a really good
job of that stuff. But it's kind of been just
one year. You know, he had a decent second season
in the league. Eight sacks isn't like that's nothing, But
eight sacks isn't top of the market. So you went
from a pretty good season to a really good season.
(06:26):
And if you want to get paid in that thirty
some million dollar a year range, then go ahead and
prove it. You know. I think the same thing between
him and Zach Allen's a little bit different story. Zach
Allen has been the same type of player virtually every
year he's been in the league, even dating back to
his Cardinals' days. Not to mention, I think it's a
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lot harder to find a really good interior defensive lineman
that can create pressure. I just think those guys are
way more rare. Somebody who can blow up a play
from the inside. There's only a few of them that
exists that way, and Zach Allen is most certainly one
of them. And so you've got a couple of guys
(07:10):
looking for contracts along with John Franklin Myers, who feels
like he's next. The funny thing about Franklin Myers, he
is going to be the cheapest option out of the
three we just talk about. But it's a matter of
these guys all have like a cap table and what
is going to happen for years moving forward? Can you
(07:33):
fit all of that under the cap. You're certainly in
an advantage right now because of the rookie contract at quarterback,
but still it's a lot of guys that need to
be paid. And I will say this in the same
way that the Avs have run into this problem, in
the same way that the Nuggets have run into this problem.
(07:55):
You seem to have to let good players go because
you can't afford them in when your team's good. You
ever notice how bad teams don't really have problems affording guys.
Never noticed that it's because they have bad players who
don't deserve to be paid. When you have a situation
(08:15):
in which you're kind of stuck in, we have so
many guys that deserve extra money because they've earned it,
because they're good, we need to decide which ones were
willing to keep. That is the balance of when you
become a good football team is who are the guys
who are the ones that we need and who are
(08:36):
the guys that we feel like would be nice to have,
because once guys start getting paid, the nice to have
group kind of flies out the window. But Courtland Sutton
has earned every bit of this contract. The texture says
you were a Courtland realist. I think that's a fair
way to put it. Like I've always and I still
(09:00):
kind of feel this way. You know, there is an
elevated level to Courtland because he is, I think, more
valuable on this team than he would be on many
others across the league. But you know, it's kind of
like you put him in a ball of different running
backs across the league, and where does he stack up?
And I don't know where that would be. I've kind
(09:22):
of thought I always kind of hovered around twenty, you know,
twenty maybe give or take a few either direction. But
that's the thing about what his contract is. He got
paid that way. He wasn't asking for like the moon
in all of this, and it made it a lot easier.
(09:43):
And so when you have somebody under that contract, I'm
telling you what I'm most excited about. Like, we've been
out here at camp for what day is this, Jesse?
Is this our fourth day? Fifth fourth day? Watched a
few of these practices. Now, I'm telling you there is
a different vibeyard camp. This is a team for the
(10:03):
first time since I've been here where you're looking at
them in training camp and there is no hoping or wishing.
It's like they're good. They're a good team. It's a
matter of how good they're going to be. And some
people if you're in the Diana Rossini and Chase Daniels
group of thought, which they have been for the last
two years, and to their credit, they were right last year.
They were really optimistic and high on the idea of
(10:27):
what the Broncos could be this year. There is a
tangible reason for it, like the team's legitimately good. When
I look out here and you talk about weaknesses as
far as the starting twenty two, I don't think you
see a whole lot. Like you really have just solid
players across the board and in some spots really really
(10:49):
good players. You know, once you get to the depth
portion of things, it's like, yeah, the depth probably could
use a pretty big boost. But considering where they were
at two years ago and the money that they didn't
have to deal with, that's still in better shape than
I thought it would be. Uh, But you go around
any NFL camp. You go to Kansas City or I
(11:11):
guess Saint Joseph, Missouri. Uh, you go to Dallas, you
go to Los Angeles, you go to Philly, you go
to Detroit, you go to wherever. All of these teams
are going to tell you, what are you concerned about injuries? Depth? Like,
it's just it's a constant. So that's not a unique
situation to the Broncos. But what I'm telling you is
(11:34):
they in their starting lineup don't seem to have a
spot where you're like, ooh, that can be exploited. Like
I'm even I'm I'm even talking about the running backs.
I told you yesterday. The thing I'm most excited about
this year is it looks like you can actually have
a viable running game if you want to. And I
(11:55):
say if you want to, just because there's still the
group out there that think said, Sean Payton's gonna refuse
to run the football, well, I'm telling you there is
no excuse for it this year. I was the one
that was being the Sean Payton apologies last season to
a certain extent because even with the limited let's say
that he thought he had a limited deck to work with.
(12:21):
As far as his running backs, you still had to
try and at times he didn't even do that. That's
not going to be an excuse this year. They have
multiple people that I think can run the football and
do it effectively. R. J. Harvey's got explosiveness in a
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way that you haven't had for years. The same thing
with JK. Dobbins. You know, they're still trying to get
the object estimate thing going. I don't know if it's
going to work or not, but Sean Payton is speaking
about him in a way that's like, Hey, I'm really
(13:02):
rooting for this guy. But there is not going to
be an excuse this year, like, well, guess what, we
had a third and two, but I'm just not comfortable
putting the ball in the hands of X. You have
two guys that I think you're going to be able
to trust both in that situation. So we can get
(13:25):
our first kind of look here in about a week,
because we got what is it Wednesday? We get the
Hall of Fame game tomorrow the Broncos win's their game? Jesse?
Is it? It's win the ninth? Okay? Is that Friday? Saturday?
So the first games on Saturday, you can get it
for I doubt that any players of quote substance are
(13:47):
probably going to play here, but you get a look
at a couple of rookies at least out of the gates,
I would assume. Want to let you guys know, eight
o'clock this morning, we'll have an announced man that I
think you're gonna like. It's a big deal, And I'll
just tell you Altitude Sports Radio loves football. That's what
(14:08):
the theme revolves around. And we'll have a big announcement
at eight o'clock, So stay tuned for that. Three oh three, five,
four oh nine, two five shop Mazda text line, one price,
one person, one hour, Roll through some more audio from
Sean Payton and others from yesterday as we go along today.
But keep in mind eight o'clock this morning, we will
have an announcement, So stay tuned for that. Stick around.
(14:30):
Hold on, Steve, I'm making my bomb again. Uh. Yesterday
I put liquid IV a little like a powder packet
in a carbonated water and it just it blew up.
Jesse was covered in trapnel. It was a disaster. And
(14:51):
look at this, Jesse. We're all good. We're good. We
did a buddy and let me take a sipic. Sure
it's okay. I'm just good.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Well this riveting radio right here.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Hey, well I needed a second, okay, Jesse. Sometimes when
you're on the road like this, I'm sorry, Nelly. Sometimes
when you're on the road like this, there's just you
need to figure things out on the go. Sometimes I
don't have enough time. Do you know how it is?
It's a six o'clock hour. There's no like when Mose
goes to the bathroom and takes eighteen minutes to come
(15:21):
back from a segment, Like I'm here to take over
for him. I got no, there's no help. Jesse could
have started the segment. Look at me, He's just sitting
there a pidle on his phone. Now, I just need
a teammate, that's what I need.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Fins.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Thank you, Jesse. I'm telling you, I think the home run.
I like that better than Spins. I'm being honest. Home run.
That call that you had, it looks like, uh, it's
against the wall. Oh no, home run just very matter
(15:56):
of fact. Hey, So we're just talking about Courtland and
sort of like him earning his way through it, and
the idea of earning it is very important to obviously
younger players. When you're a rookie on this team, you're
John A. Barron, you are and you're all these are R. J. Harvey,
(16:21):
You're Pat Bryant, You're all these different guys. A lot
of guys on defense. Q Robinson. You need to earn
your way into playing time. We all know that. And
then sometimes it's just obvious that this guy's going to play.
And I think that we've seen that in the past,
you know, with it wasn't like that, if you remember
(16:42):
last year with bo Nicks, there was a battle. But
I have this long standing sort of thought when it
comes to rookie quarterbacks and rookies who if you're battling
a veteran who's not a proven commodity, and no disrespect
to Jared Stidham, but he's not that I'm talking about. Like,
(17:04):
if you're battling at Joe Flacco, or you're battling a
Russell Wilson, or your battling somebody like that that's been
in the league for a long time, you kind of
know what they're ceiling in their floor is if you're
battling against someone like Stidham, Stidham needs to be head
in shoulders above where the rookie quarterback is and he
(17:29):
just wasn't. They were kind of the same. And so
with that, bo Nicks ended up getting the nod for
Week one and then started every game throughout the course
of the year. Now. RJ. Harvey is an example of
a guy We're only a few days in the camp,
but I think he's gonna play and Nelly for whatever reason,
(17:52):
I don't know if the email didn't come through here.
I don't have the cut sheet in front of me,
but I know that, Uh Peyton talked about r J.
Harvey yesterday and he had a couple of really nice runs.
One where it was a run to the left and
he got blown up in the backfield. He just kind
of planted, turned around, took it the other way for
at least fifteen yards before he got touched. And that's
(18:13):
the kind of speed and explosiveness that just hasn't existed
and he's got that. And I think that JK. Dobbins
has it too. But you drafted RJ. Harvey with a purpose,
and the purpose wasn't that he was going to sit.
You know, there's a difference between an addric estima and
a Jalil McLoughlin and an RJ. Harvey. And here's the
biggest difference. There was real high end draft capital that
(18:37):
was expended on taking RJ. Harvey a fifth round pick.
On adric Estime is a flyer. An undrafted free agent
rookie signing from Julia McLoughlin is a dart throw. That's
the difference. You know, I've said this before. People talk
about oddric Estime, especially last year, as if he was
a guy that you drafted, like in the early first
(18:59):
round or early second round, and I'm like, he he's
a fifth round pick. Fifth round pickskick cut all the time.
There wasn't, like, I don't think, huge expectations for him.
There was a there was a like an absolute I
guess lure to like just his body type, his style
of running, like that sort of thing. But this isn't
(19:23):
something like George Payton's very very good at evaluating talent.
He would not lose sleep if a fifth round pick
just didn't pan out. That's kind of what just happens.
But do you got this audio here Nelly on Sean
Payton talking about R J. Harvey.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, did you want the one where he's talking about
his I believe was his pass his passing protection skills.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yeah, I would actually love to hear that play that
one first, Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because that is the only one I could find. And also, hey,
if you guys want to know a little peek behind
the curtain of the fast, break neck pace that we
lead the six am show. I never had send on
the emails, so you should have it now.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Ah that makes more sense, all right, cool?
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, but let's yeah, I think for and look for
him specifically the protections, the speed of the game. He
had a run today that was something, and you know,
we kind of turned and looked at each other. But
you know, there's that uh learning curve for all of
those young players, but in some of it it happens
(20:26):
a little quicker maybe than than others. But but he's
doing he's doing exceptional.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
This should be an actual test. By the way, it's
the we looked at each other test. I think that's
a real thing. When you're you're watching somebody play that
you haven't watched play before. Have you ever done this
where you've just been like you give him that look
like like hmmm, uh that looks a little different. Like
that just happens organically and naturally, and there's a there's
(20:55):
a lot of that that I think is to r. J. Harvey,
not to the past protection part. We all know that
if you're gonna play in Sean Payton's system as a
running back, that that is it's not something that's nice
to have. It's a necessity, like you won't see the
field without it. And maybe you don't have to be
great at it, but you have to be willing, you know.
(21:17):
And there's a big difference between those things. Uh, there's
plenty of guys in the NBA that are bad defenders,
but they're willing defenders, which means they're gonna put forth
the effort, they're gonna try and do everything right. Maybe
they don't have the requisite skills. You know. Everybody kind
of talks about defense, especially in the NBA, as this
thing like, well, it's a matter of effort. Everybody can
(21:38):
play it, it's just if you want to. And that's
not true. There's plenty of guys who want to play
good defense and just cannot. Okay, you think that Jokic
and him not being a good rim protector is a
matter of wanting to or not, or is it a
matter that his vertical is probably like eighteen inches and
he doesn't move all that well vertically, Like that is
(22:03):
the key. Now. RG Harvey's got a lot to learn
in that area, by the way, But first of all,
being willing and being coachable are pretty huge steps. Now,
remember a lot of these guys with these college offenses,
some of them are like very much pro style whatever
you want to call it, but a lot of them
(22:25):
are still you know, you're getting your plays off of
Q cards on the sideline. And in the offense that RJ.
Harvey ran at UCF, my guess is past protection wasn't
a huge thing. He's probably going out and trying to
make some plays in the passing game, that'd be my guess.
(22:46):
And when you have that, you're kind of swimming upstream
a little bit and trying to get yourself acclimated to
figuring that stuff out. Now, going back and looking at
his numbers at UCF, so like, here's the thing that
you get excited about. He ran for fourteen hundred yards
his senior year and then he got an extra senior year.
(23:12):
I don't know if that's red shirt senior. I don't
know if that's if that's you know, the graduate thing
where it's the extra COVID year, whatever it was. He
ran for almost sixteen hundred yards. He averaged six and
a half yards to carry his career at UCF. And
as far as catching the ball out of the backfield,
(23:32):
he had about twenty catches each season out of the backfield,
but when he did catch the ball, he averaged about
twelve yards per play, which is huge. You know. That's
one of the things that was really really bizarre looking
back to the Broncos last year in what some of
their numbers were, it's very much they use their running
(23:56):
backs out of the backfield. Sean Payton's done that in
all these different offens offenses including back in New Orleans.
But when you look at the raw numbers that the
running backs put up from catching the ball out of
the backfield, Javonte had fifty two catches for three hundred
and forty six yards, was less than seven yards a catch.
(24:16):
The big one that surprised me was Julia McLoughlin had
twenty four catches for seventy six yards. So just to
put that in context, when Jalil caught the ball out
of the backfield, it averaged a full yard one point
two yards less than if you gave him the football
(24:37):
in the running game, which seems impossible. When you get
you hit somebody for a pass, you figure you're getting
at least six seven yards. But that wasn't the case.
And you look at some other teams across the league
and kind of like what their numbers looked like, and
how did it look when they caught the ball out
(24:58):
of the backfield, and blah blah blah. It was just
it wasn't a part of the offense. And usually it's
a staple of what Sean Payton wants to do. So
Texas says, the Broncos waste fifth round picks all of
(25:20):
the time. That's why the roster has been trash for years.
Look what the top teams who draft at the bottom
of each round do with late picks. Wasting draft picks
kills your cap situation. If you think that the Broncos
haven't hit on later round picks, than your nuts. It's
all George Peyton could do. For years, he hasn't had
(25:43):
first and second round picks because they've been traded to
New Orleans in Seattle, and the Russell Wilson and Sean
Payton moves the reason you have a viable football team
is because he's at least done okay on that front.
Like if you think the Broncos haven't done that, it's
just that they aren't gonna hit on every single guy.
(26:07):
So I'll go through it. Since Sean, I'm sorry, George
Peyton took over, which was Nellie? Can you look that
up for me? What year was his? Was George Peyton's
first year? I believe it was? This was it Sir
Tan's year? Right? Was that his first pick? I think
it was because the year before that was Jerry Judy
(26:28):
and that was that was an LA pick. Right.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
He took over in twenty twenty one January twenty twenty one,
and I'm pretty sure that that was the NFL Draft
where they took PS two.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
So they took Sirtan in the first round, Javonte in
the second, which didn't work, Quinn Minors in the third.
I think that one worked out alright. Cayden Stearns was
a pretty good player in the fifth round. Uh So
sort of missed out on Baron Browning in the third round.
He had some injury problems. Jamar Johnson was a safety
they took in the fifth didn't really work out, Seth
(26:59):
Williams and the sixth round, and then he got Jonathan
Cooper in the seventh, which I think you could say
is a pretty good hit. So he hit on the
first round pick, which is first and foremost what you
have to do. You can't miss on those did that.
In the third round, got an all pro level offensive lineman.
That's pretty good, and in the seventh round got a
(27:20):
starting ed rusher. I would say it's pretty good. The
next year, Nick Benito was the last pick of the
second round, essentially a third rounder. I think that's worked
out pretty well. As far as the other picks in
that draft. That's one that you could say maybe some misses.
But Wattenberg was drafted in the fifth round. He's your
(27:41):
starting center. I'm telling you right now. They still have
hopes for Ajasa Riquez. Remember that was the fourth round
pick from that year. They got suspended for the gambling issue,
and he's finally back to being here full time now.
Year after that, Marvin Mims in the second rounds worked
out pretty well, Riley Moss in the third round worked
out pretty well. Drew Sanders is a third round pick.
(28:05):
Remains to be seen. They like him if he can
stay healthy. And then Jales Skinner was a sixth round
pick and alex Fordsythe was a seventh Both of them
still on the roster. And then last year, Bonick's first
pick pretty good. Jonah Ellis was a third round pick.
I think that was pretty solid. Five sacks in his
rookie year with a stacked defensive line and very limited
(28:28):
time to get on the field. Troy Franklin remains to
be seen. I think Chris Abrams drain is the same thing.
So Franklin was a fourth round pick. Drayne was a
fifth estimate. I think still remains to be seen. He
was a fifth rounder. And then who'd he taking the seventh?
Oh yeah, Devon Vley? How's that working out? Like, you
cannot say that George Peyton hasn't hit on late picks.
(28:49):
It's been the reason why they are viable. What do
you think they built this team through free agency? They
don't have money. So, like all I'm telling you is,
if you're looking for this team to be built off
of fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks, your nuts. Those
are the guys that fill in the cracks. Those are
your depth players, and every once in a while, you
(29:10):
find a couple of them that become really good, and
he's done that. There's I'm just telling you guys right now,
I will get very defensive when it comes to George
Peyton because I think that he's one of the best
gms in the league. I do tell me the stuff
that he's missed, and you can. You can bring up
the Russell Wilson stuff. I think ninety five percent of
(29:33):
gms would have done everything the exact same way he did.
They actually waited, you know, remember in that collusion case,
Russell Wilson asked for was it like three hundred and
some million dollars guaranteed? And they're like, uh no, that's
not gonna happen. But they were the ones who are like,
we kind of wanted to wait for this, but I
think they felt like they had their hands tied. I've
(29:56):
said forever. The worst thing that he's done, I think
worse than the Russell Wilson and stuff is the Hacket signing.
That's the word pick benislam dunk. No, no teams do that,
but a lot of them have. Like I think, you
find a really hard time criticizing George Peyton for think
about what he had to deal with. Now, you could
(30:17):
say he made the bed, so he had to or
he made the mess he had to clean up his
own bed. Okay, fine, but think about what you're dealing
with here. You had a rookie quarterback who was starting
Week one with a team that was limited with fifty
million dollars that went unused in cap space. They didn't
(30:40):
have draft capital over the last few years, and they
finally do. Like, I don't think there is anything you
guys should be criticizing about George Payton when you look
at and the same text says, no GM would have
extended the Wilson contract. You're insane. So here's your idea.
(31:05):
Here's your idea, a grand plan. You give away multiple
first round picks, multiple second round picks, Shelby Harris, no
A fen Than, a host of other things for Russell
Wilson to play him for a year and then say, yeah,
this isn't working. Like, I know, that's how it worked
out anyway, but that's not what you make a trade for.
(31:25):
Think about every trade that's happened that involves first round picks.
I'll give you one from a couple of years ago
that involved the Broncos. Do you guys remember when Bradley
Chubb got traded to Miami and that they somehow got
a first round pick out of that. Remember that What
did Miami do three days later? Extended his contract? Because
when you give up capital like that, you're planning on
(31:47):
that guy being here long term or what's the point
of making the move? It's simple, like it's almost economics
at that point. You make the investment like it'd be
like I'm going to a house and I'm planning on
paying the mortgage for a year and then moving out, Like, well,
that's I don't know a lot about money. I know
(32:07):
that's a terrible investment. That's not how you should do business.
Maybe you should have rented the house, but you don't
do that, And you can play the hindsight game that well,
if you did it my way, I would have been right, Well,
I'll been good for you. That's not how business works.
Oh good for you? Yes? What is that? So that's
(32:30):
Christian Bale? Is he yelling at somebody during Uh? Was that? No?
Tom Cruise did the big yell during right?
Speaker 1 (32:36):
It was a freak out on set. I think it
was during one of the Batman films, like some lighting
guy was getting in the way of this shot, or
that may have been The Dark Knight or The Dark
Knight Rises.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, guess what that guy was certainly wrong then, because
those those movies are amazing. If you're telling me you
can't sit down for a couple hours and just enjoy
one of those Batman films with Christian Bale, then I
think you're insane. And I'm not even a comic book
superhero guy. I don't watch those movies, but I love those.
So maybe that lighting guy was you know what, you
(33:08):
should have been reprimanded. Oh no, I knows what he's
talking about.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Okay, God, it was Terminator Salvation and oh there was
some some camera operator or the director of photography or
something who was who was caught walking through a shot.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Well, in that case, I haven't seen that movie. Christian
Bale stopping so mean.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I just love to stop it. I always forget that
he's Welsh, and so you can kind of hear it
coming out in that clip that he's he's got the accent.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh oh, Nelly, you know as well as anybody, you
can't forget he's Welsh anymore. Because he said to Moser
oh doubt shit, his dreams I've gone. I mean, that's
what That's the only way I can remember that that
guy is is he has an accent. Is just from
that clip. So anyway, three oh three, five oh four,
(33:54):
oh ninety five. Big announcement at eight o'clock this morning Instagram, Nelly,
it's that time. We're out here at Broncos Park training camp,
covers and now to Dude Sports Radio is powered by
Ramo's Law, the official injury law firm partner of Broncos Country.
It's that time. It's six forty five. You guys all
know exactly what that means now because I bring it
up every single day. Every single day I bring this up,
(34:15):
and so it's time for that one thing at six
forty five. There's a constant here at Broncos Camp. I
am glad I get to see this every day. It's
a man of integrity, a man of effort, and a
man of work ethic. And it'll pass by just at
the at the perfect time of this. In fact, Jesse,
(34:36):
we're gonna turn that camera around when he comes by,
so you'll be ready for that. Nobody needs to see me.
This isn't my time. This isn't my thing. Every single
day this happens, Nelly, Queue it up, Queue it up
(34:57):
sixty five every day here it can you know exactly
what happens. Our guy over here, Brandon Jones, he's got
headphones and I'm pretty sure he's listening to our show.
He comes by barefoot and starts to do his shuffles
every day. Gotta love it. It's a man who has
a routine and routine oriented. And yeah, look at yeah,
get those kicks he's doing, right kick, left kick, he's
(35:20):
doing it. I'm telling you, I think he is listening
to our show. Tell me that doesn't look like it
fits to the beat, though Jesse does it not fit
perfectly with it. It's gonna be a new theme here
at camp. Whenever it's six point forty five, Brandon Jones
runs by me. We're playing the Cupid shuffle and look
at yeah, I get those knees going.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
See just like last time last year, still looks like
Jamal Murray from the back.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
He does, Yeah, he really does. But the barefoot Cupid
Shuffle from Brandon Jones. Let's all give it up. A
round of applause for Brandon Jones, for Grace, I guess
with your presence again, I think he's listening to the show.
I'm pretty sure. Get that camera back on me, Jesse
at the Brandon Jones Show. This is six in the
morning with me. Oh yeah, I just do you think?
(36:09):
I mean Emma's with an earshot. I get the headphones on.
I can't hear a response. But Jesse, do you think
if I tried to take my shoes off and do
some shuffling with them when I get tackled immediately? Yes,
it would make for good content. It would. Well, I'm
I'm going on vacation soon anyway, sounds like a good
little time to take a break. So hey, Nelly, on Friday,
(36:34):
my show might end at about six point fifty, so
we might have to make some plans for that. Again,
I'm a content guy. I want to make sure I
got that all sort of ironed out.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Actually, I have a time machine here, and I'm gonna
see if I can go into the future and predict
your fate if you try to run onto the field barefoot.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Again. Tell me this, though, Nelly, would that not be
the most viral piece of video that's emerged from any
training camp? Uh? Hang on, we were going to show
you some video of Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball to
DK Metcalf. But look at local radio hosts Brett Kane
get obliterated by Bronco security here. I mean, it's possible you.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Could fondly remember that moment from your jail cell.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yes, exactly right. People appreciated Jesse jumping on the mic
as well. That's always very nice. Dear from Jesse. Now,
few things here, I got some I can't look, man,
I don't know what to do with this information. Part
of me says good for you guys, and the other
part of me is what are we doing here? So
(37:41):
I fully understand that football in the South, especially high
school football, is just a different It's a different beast,
It's a different animal. Okay, I just saw from Joe
Pompilianum Buford High School in Georgia. Have you guys heard
of Buford? Probably not, you will. Now you want to
(38:03):
know why. Buford High School has officially opened its new
football stadium. So good for them. That's very nice. What
kid doesn't like new stuff. It costs sixty two million dollars.
There's ten thousand seats, fifteen luxury suites to a high
school football stadium. It's got a thirty five hundred square
(38:27):
foot scoreboard, video scoreboard, a two story field house with
locker rooms, and it's I would say, just looking at
this thing, it's nicer than a lot of like low
level D one stadiums, is what it looks like. And
(38:48):
you want the father Brett Kayne's opinion on this, I'll
give you the radio host, sports radio host Brett Kaine's opinion. Cool,
I'd love to play there. You want the father, Bret
Kaine's opinion, it's much different. What's your library look like?
That's the father's opinion. The sports radio hosts opinion is, Man,
(39:12):
these kids are gonna be living in a life of luxury.
Father opinion is what's your grades? You deserve to play
on that field, like these guys out here, They've all
earned the right to be on this. How about you anyway?
Sixty two million dollars for a football stadium, and look,
(39:35):
I like high school football. I think it's a great thing.
It's great for your community, it's great for all this
like it's it's a beautiful thing. You think I'm paying
luxury sweet prices for a high school game, You're insane.
I would love to know what those are. In fact,
do they sell these tickets on ticket Master? There's ten
thousand seats. You probably do my high school football stadium.
(39:58):
You walked up with five dollars and they gave you
like a raffle ticket looking thing. Here, get in here, here,
take a stamp. That's what they do. I go to
the concessions. I get Nacho's for three bucks. Now, like,
do me a favor. Look up Buford High School football
tickets and see if you can find some sort of link.
(40:20):
There's got to be an online link to this. And
I want to know what those luxury sweet prices are
for a high school football game, because if we're talking
in the thousands, what are we doing here? And what
kind of school is this? Did Buford High School produce? Like?
The best is that it's Georgia. Who went to Georgia?
Is like Matthew stt No, Matthew Stafford's a Texas kid.
(40:41):
I think, No, he is Georgia.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Well, we got we got to pick a marquee matchup.
I mean, do you want to see them play?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
In? Which school?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Do you want to see him play? Because we got
we got let's see, we got the Newton Rams versus
the Buford Wolves.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
Now, no, no, not that one.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
The Clark Central Gladiators.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Which one is like mid season sort of homecoming weekend
feel to it. That somewhere around that time.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Okay, we got yeah, like October seventeenth, Perfect Gwinnett, the
Central Gwinnett Nights.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Yeah, I think that sounds like a great game to choose.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Unfortunately, that is an away game. I gotta find a
home here.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
You give me a home game.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Buford's kind of teasing the release. You know, they're not
really uh dropping whole schedule here. Okay, do they have a.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Link to tickets? Just pick any game, any game. I
just want to see how much those tickets cost. They
have the luxury suite up.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I have not yet found the luxury suite prices. I'm
just finding the GA tickets and they're like eight bucks.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Okay, I want to know what's in that suite, Like
you just got a whole bunch of dad's boozing up
there during the game. What are we doing here? So anyway,
a lot more to get to from Camp three oh three, five, four,
nine five, shop maz to text on one price, one person,
one hour. We get Nelly back in the Backs and
Shanker Studios. Their passion is justice. So a lot more
(42:02):
audio from Sean Payton to get to today. Don't forget
we get the big announcement coming your way in about
an hour at eight o'clock. We got an announcement for
you that we will send that follows the theme of
Camp for us that Altitude Sports Radio loves football. So
we'll get there in just a second. I like this
new theme. By the way, Hey, when I'm gone the
(42:24):
days that I'm gone and Berto is filling in for me,
Ellie Burdo must adhere to the Cupid shuffle. Brandon Jones,
you must make him do that to night. We'll beat
you know what my daughter says. My daughter says to
morning instead of tomorrow morning. It's the cutest thing ever.
So tell it burto in the to morning that he
(42:49):
has to follow on with this Cupid shuffle thing for
Brandon Jones. We need to give the guy some love.
He's a really good safety. Have to do it all right,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!