December 15, 2024 • 17 mins
Some holiday fun on the Sky Vibe Podcast - Judi's idea, of course!
Let's see if we can find out any information on Santa Clause from his natal birth chart.
And Happy Holidays everyone!
Let's see if we can find out any information on Santa Clause from his natal birth chart.
And Happy Holidays everyone!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the holidays, and I am excited because, by the way,
it's me Judy Diamond along with professional strologer Thomas Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, happy holidays, Happy holidays. And when I come up
with this question for you, it might throw you.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I do not know, but I cannot be the first
person to ask us. By the way, this is a podcast,
the sky Vibe Podcast, Astrology podcast. It's basically astrology for
people like me that think like a fifth grader in astrology,
not you, Thomas.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm not going to go there. We could talk about
the rest of the time being lower than the fifth grade,
but we won't do that, will we.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, No, we do not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We do just fine for a fifth grader. Let me
put it that way you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm not sure how to take that.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But there's nothing wrong with the fifth grade.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, thank you, No, there isn't. But it's more or
less I like to call it. You know, we say
everything from a GPS or your life too. I say,
it's practical astrology.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Right, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
People like me who don't understand astro speak.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Sure, and we don't want to do that anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, So, Thomas, if anybody wants to catch up again
you subscribe Skyvibe show. Now, I do want to say
before I ask this ridiculous question, which I don't think
is ridiculous, that if you want to know what we
look like and you're listening to this and you want
to see this amazing fairy world that I come out of,
you have to look on YouTube or on any of
(01:34):
our socials.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Well check out. Let's see your YouTube channels.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What Judy Diamond.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And Mine is fun Astrology podcast and this will be
on both on YouTube and we love to have you
come over there.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Absolutely. I'm also on Ginger Vibes, but it's the same.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So okay, all right, good, yeah, so we're doing video
this time in addition to the audio.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So, now that we've got that out of the way,
you look quite handsome by the way, Thomas.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, thank you. I realized this is no kidding. This
is no kidding. This is a button down shirt and
I have not buttoned a shirt across my body for
over a year, probably two.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You are the least buttoned up person I know. Besides,
I was like.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh wow, I really haven't done this for a long time.
Everything is casual. It's like okay, well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well can I just say thank you for dressing up
for me and the holidays.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
That you got it here right exactly. I broke the
trend for this and you get great and red too
by the way as well, so very very festive and seasonal.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, thank you, and again once you see that, if
you're ever wondered if a redhead can wear red, yes
we can.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You wear it perfectly. And look at the background I
chose for us too, you did.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I did very festive.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, got the red background going as well. It's
on the video's hope you audio folks will come over
and check it out. We're having fun with it, we
really are.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And this is a new little system that we're using here.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So if I'm walking all over Thomas as I'm talking,
I apologize profusely.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah. Well both. This is the maiden voyage for this
thing for both of us. So while we'll be doing
more of this for sure. Yeah, we're going to do more,
all right. I know you have this itching question.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm dying to ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Please anybody who's listen to use professionals strologers.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Bear with me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But this is the season, this is Santa Claus, and
I have to know what is Santa Claus's astrological sign,
what's his natal chart?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
What's he about?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, you threw this at me a couple of weeks ago,
and I had to go digging because I was I
knew this astrologer years ago who actually knew Santa Claus's
exact birth time. And that person is no longer with us,
May they rest in North pole Land. But I am
(04:07):
one of the few astrologers in the world that actually
has Santa Clauses exact birthtime. So when you ask this question,
I had completely forgotten about that document and I thought, oh,
I have to dig that out. So wow, natal birth
report right here.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, I didn't mean to step on you, but I
just got really really excited because I'm sitting there going, okay,
let's see he's got an expanding belly.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Jupiter's got to be somewhere in that chart, right.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh, we're going to talk about Jupiter.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yes, I'm so excited. It's like a Christmas present.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, let's start with you know, like everybody has to know.
In fact, the last podcast we did, you talked about
the Big Three that your friend in San Diego's son
had to find out, you know, or your friend in
Saint Louis's San Diego son. But yeah, the you know this,
this is the big news on the coast, and the
gen z Ers can't make friends if they don't know
they're big three. Well what is the big three If
(05:06):
you don't know what the big three is? It's the sun, moon,
and rising sign. And you don't get all of those
three if you don't have the exact birth time. So
you have to know the time. And that's why this
is so important that we know Santa's exact birth time
because we can get that ascendant now, just.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So people know, because if they're learning, you know learning,
there's uh, people call it different things. Sometimes they call
it rising and sometimes it's ascending and descending.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So yeah, just know that right. Well, the rising sign
is kind of what it's indicating. It's the point in
the chart where the sun rose on the day of
your birth, and it's kind of how we shine out
into the world. So it's a very important point and
you're going to be pretty impressed, I think with Santa's
(05:56):
rising sign. But let's start with the sun.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What would you just go back really quick and say
Thomas Miller is one of the few and I'm lucky
enough to be able to do a show with this professional.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Strologer who knows the day and time of Sandersberth. That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And this will never be disclosed because then I wouldn't
have the trade secret, right, So at least we can.
But people could dial it in from this maybe. All right,
what would you expect when you think of jolly old
Saint Nick. You already kind of mentioned it. What would
you think would be his son sign? The sign that
the sun was in when Santa was born.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Gosh, well, he's happy, he's shining. He's Leo. I don't know.
Of course, I'm a Leo, so I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That, no, Leo's coming. But Santa is actually a Sagittarius rising.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, Sagittarius they love to go and travel, and he
does a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That all over the world. Yes, has a busy schedule
in the fall, that's for sure. So he is a
Sagittarius rise. And but you think about this, I mean,
his chart fits him so well, it really does, because
his moon is in the sign that you're familiar with
of Capricorn.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Wow. Wow, that's how he keeps organized?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, it is, And Capricorn is of course ruled by
the planet Saturn, and Capricorn is all about stability and longevity.
Things related to Capricorn they last for a long long time.
And we know that Santa has been around for about
(07:37):
some three hundred years. I mean I know the exact date,
but I'm not going to tell you, but he goes
back to the seventeen hundreds. That's a long Doing this
for so long is really truly remarkable, and you couldn't
do that without a Capricorn rising. And you know, to
think about that, not only does he do it every year,
(08:00):
but also like how does he hit all those stores
at the same time. I mean, it's like he's everywhere.
It's because of that Capricorn nature that he just has
gotten this figured out. It's been stamped in over hundreds
of years and he can pull it off consistently. So
he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Basically got the Capricorn. This is what you're doing, saying
to the Sagittarius. Yes, I know you want to go
out and party and adventure and go everywhere. Here's where
you need to be at.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, he's like, you ain't getting any younger, so you
better rest up for the whole year, so you can
pull these last couple of months off, right, Yes, I
mean you look at us right. Okay, Now there's one
other we talked about it the rising sign. What rising
sign would you think he is?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh? Boy, I mean, gosh, I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Even begin back to home. You just mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
A Leo.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
He is a Leo absolutely, I mean think of it.
Look at all this press he gets every year, and
he does it effortlessly, just like you. I mean, you
are so good in what you do, and you're so
good on the radio, and you draw attention to yourself
and you stand out there boldly. Well that's just like Santa.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And he wears bread I mean, my goodness.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, Leo's are always in the spotlight. Well what is
he in right? Right now? It's all about Santa, right
it is? Yeah? So, I mean his chart and and
Leo's are you know this natural performers. So he's that
for sure, you know. Really, the only thing I thought
(09:39):
about with his Leo rising is that Santa should be
at the front of the parade, not the back. He
really should.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You have to remember Leo's they do like that, but
they also like to make an entrance, so right, he's
making he's the end because he's waiting everybody and then
here's the star.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Okay, okay, well that works too well. We can't sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I got to make everybody else can just go ahead
of me, and then I'll just make my entrance.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, here she comes. So a couple of other things.
I thought we might just take a look at some
of his planets and signs that are scattered around the chart.
Now you mentioned Jupiter with his expanding waistline. But the
other thing that he has is just tremendous access to
assets because he has such a huge factory up there
(10:36):
in the North Pole that he can make all these
toys and all these gifts and presents for the whole world.
I mean, that's got to be Jupiter in the second
House of Money and Possessions, right, is it. Well, that's
exactly where it is, absolutely that there.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You go, Hey, his elves, they don't have to work
for free.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No oh no, he has plenty of resources with that
Jupiter in there, and it's always expanding. Jupiter is all
about things getting bigger. So you know, when we were kids,
Christmas was like like this, you know, and now Christmas
is like this, Well that's Jupiter there you go. I mean,
you can't make this stuff up, folks, right, we say
that all the time. So then the other one that
(11:17):
I was kind of impressed that he has is Pluto,
the planet of transformation, is in Santa's first house, his
ascendant house, which means, well, think about all the transformations
of his image that he's gone through all these years.
He's like all the rest of us. I mean, he
(11:39):
started off small and he just grew into the role.
He really did. He didn't start off big, mister Clause
with the whole operation that he has up there now,
with all the elves and all the factories and all
the reindeer and the delivery service and everything. He didn't
start that way back in the seventeen hundreds. It was
just him and ma Claus.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
E grassroots kind of dude.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But he just developed. And that's with Pluto. Wherever Pluto
is in your chart, that's an area of your life
that you are going to transform over time. Well he's
been at it for three hundred years and look at
what happens.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And he's just getting bigger and bigger. I mean he's
digital now.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You could follow his play online now I got to
ask you about the longevity of his marriage to Missus Claws.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
There's got to be well, that's coming up next. I
knew you would be right there. So I took a
look at the seventh House, and in the seventh House
of Relationships, you hit it. And that was the next
thing on the list. Is Venus in the sign of Torus, Oh,
seventh House of relationships. I mean, why not? Right? It
(12:46):
has to be because they've been married for three hundred
some years. I mean they're like glue. That's a relationship
that has stayed together and Trus's stay put.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Around it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Somebody in our business, Jim Nantz, the great sportscaster over
at CBS, is a Taurus, and he started when he
was twenty six and he wants to retire when he's
about seventy five. It's like, the guy is just a rock.
That's a Taurus. So that's his relationship. And it's not
only his relationship with his wife, but think about it,
(13:22):
it's a relationship with his whole team. And really, even
though this is more like the eleventh House, he has
a relationship like that with the whole world, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He He does. We love Santa.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, and Santa loves us and that's because of Venus,
the love planet is. And by the way, because when
you have that Leo rising the Taurus over there is
basically the way that it works out is that Venus
is in the late degrees of Taurus for it to
(13:58):
be in the seventh house. So he that's part of
that longevity. You can use the degrees that a planet
is in as a marker of early signatures versus later signatures,
for example. So they got married a little later, but
boy has it stuck.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And again, I know his elves are really his children,
but what about that part of the chart.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Do you see anything in there?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know, I didn't pull the fifth house, which is
where children are, but really those are employees. That's more
of the sixth house. Yeah, that's more like I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
The whole world's children are his kids if you think
about it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh yeah, and you know, and he has such an
incredible relationship with the entire world and that is represented
in astrology by the eleventh house. But the other point
that I wanted to bring out that I thought was
just really significant about Santa's chart is in his tenth house,
which we call that the mid heaven area. Most people
(15:03):
look to that for their career, but really it's kind
of how we stand on top of the world because
that mid heaven point in astrology is the sun at
its highest point in the sky on the day you
were born. We have the ascendant where it comes up,
we have the mid heaven where it's up at the
highest point, and we have the descendant you mentioned at
(15:24):
the beginning, that's where the sun sets. And then we
have what's called the mm Koli or the Nator that's
the sun at the darkest point of the night, if
you will. It's lowest trajectory in the sky. Well, at
the top of his chart, with him standing up to
the world, we find the planet Neptune. Wow, and I
(15:47):
just thought this was so cool because that is how
we appear to the world. And if you think about Neptune,
we're talking about the planet of illusions, the planet of dreams,
planet of visions, and we're also talking about the planet
of lies and deceptions. So there's Neptune. And I thought
(16:09):
how appropriate because twas the night before Christmas, and all
through the house not a creature was stirring, not even
a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
in hopes that Saint Nicholas soon would be there. The
children were nestled, all snug in their beds, with visions
(16:33):
neptune of sugar plums dancing in their heads. You can
just feel the neptune in that can, Yes, And the
thing is about that neptune in the tenth House, Judy.
The story is whatever we want to make of it.
For some it's an illusion. For some it's a lie.
(16:56):
For some it's an image of the very highest time
timeline path we can take in our lives, of selfless service,
of love for humanity, of giving without getting, and obviously
sending cheer this time of year, Peace on earth, goodwill
(17:21):
to all, Happy holidays and merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Happy holidays, Thomas, thank you, and Merry Christmas.
It's the holidays, and I am excited because, by the way,
it's me Judy Diamond along with professional strologer Thomas Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, happy holidays, Happy holidays. And when I come up
with this question for you, it might throw you.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I do not know, but I cannot be the first
person to ask us. By the way, this is a podcast,
the sky Vibe Podcast, Astrology podcast. It's basically astrology for
people like me that think like a fifth grader in astrology,
not you, Thomas.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I'm not going to go there. We could talk about
the rest of the time being lower than the fifth grade,
but we won't do that, will we.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, No, we do not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We do just fine for a fifth grader. Let me
put it that way you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I'm not sure how to take that.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
But there's nothing wrong with the fifth grade.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, thank you, No, there isn't. But it's more or
less I like to call it. You know, we say
everything from a GPS or your life too. I say,
it's practical astrology.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Right, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
People like me who don't understand astro speak.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Sure, and we don't want to do that anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, So, Thomas, if anybody wants to catch up again
you subscribe Skyvibe show. Now, I do want to say
before I ask this ridiculous question, which I don't think
is ridiculous, that if you want to know what we
look like and you're listening to this and you want
to see this amazing fairy world that I come out of,
you have to look on YouTube or on any of
(01:34):
our socials.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Well check out. Let's see your YouTube channels.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What Judy Diamond.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
And Mine is fun Astrology podcast and this will be
on both on YouTube and we love to have you
come over there.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Absolutely. I'm also on Ginger Vibes, but it's the same.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So okay, all right, good, yeah, so we're doing video
this time in addition to the audio.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So, now that we've got that out of the way,
you look quite handsome by the way, Thomas.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well, thank you. I realized this is no kidding. This
is no kidding. This is a button down shirt and
I have not buttoned a shirt across my body for
over a year, probably two.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You are the least buttoned up person I know. Besides,
I was like.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh wow, I really haven't done this for a long time.
Everything is casual. It's like okay, well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well can I just say thank you for dressing up
for me and the holidays.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
That you got it here right exactly. I broke the
trend for this and you get great and red too
by the way as well, so very very festive and seasonal.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, thank you, and again once you see that, if
you're ever wondered if a redhead can wear red, yes
we can.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
You wear it perfectly. And look at the background I
chose for us too, you did.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I did very festive.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, got the red background going as well. It's
on the video's hope you audio folks will come over
and check it out. We're having fun with it, we
really are.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And this is a new little system that we're using here.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
So if I'm walking all over Thomas as I'm talking,
I apologize profusely.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah. Well both. This is the maiden voyage for this
thing for both of us. So while we'll be doing
more of this for sure. Yeah, we're going to do more,
all right. I know you have this itching question.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm dying to ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Please anybody who's listen to use professionals strologers.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Bear with me.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
But this is the season, this is Santa Claus, and
I have to know what is Santa Claus's astrological sign,
what's his natal chart?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
What's he about?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well, you threw this at me a couple of weeks ago,
and I had to go digging because I was I
knew this astrologer years ago who actually knew Santa Claus's
exact birth time. And that person is no longer with us,
May they rest in North pole Land. But I am
(04:07):
one of the few astrologers in the world that actually
has Santa Clauses exact birthtime. So when you ask this question,
I had completely forgotten about that document and I thought, oh,
I have to dig that out. So wow, natal birth
report right here.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, I didn't mean to step on you, but I
just got really really excited because I'm sitting there going, okay,
let's see he's got an expanding belly.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Jupiter's got to be somewhere in that chart, right.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh, we're going to talk about Jupiter.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yes, I'm so excited. It's like a Christmas present.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well, let's start with you know, like everybody has to know.
In fact, the last podcast we did, you talked about
the Big Three that your friend in San Diego's son
had to find out, you know, or your friend in
Saint Louis's San Diego son. But yeah, the you know this,
this is the big news on the coast, and the
gen z Ers can't make friends if they don't know
they're big three. Well what is the big three If
(05:06):
you don't know what the big three is? It's the sun, moon,
and rising sign. And you don't get all of those
three if you don't have the exact birth time. So
you have to know the time. And that's why this
is so important that we know Santa's exact birth time
because we can get that ascendant now, just.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So people know, because if they're learning, you know learning,
there's uh, people call it different things. Sometimes they call
it rising and sometimes it's ascending and descending.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So yeah, just know that right. Well, the rising sign
is kind of what it's indicating. It's the point in
the chart where the sun rose on the day of
your birth, and it's kind of how we shine out
into the world. So it's a very important point and
you're going to be pretty impressed, I think with Santa's
(05:56):
rising sign. But let's start with the sun.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
What would you just go back really quick and say
Thomas Miller is one of the few and I'm lucky
enough to be able to do a show with this professional.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Strologer who knows the day and time of Sandersberth. That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
And this will never be disclosed because then I wouldn't
have the trade secret, right, So at least we can.
But people could dial it in from this maybe. All right,
what would you expect when you think of jolly old
Saint Nick. You already kind of mentioned it. What would
you think would be his son sign? The sign that
the sun was in when Santa was born.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Gosh, well, he's happy, he's shining. He's Leo. I don't know.
Of course, I'm a Leo, so I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That, no, Leo's coming. But Santa is actually a Sagittarius rising.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Well, Sagittarius they love to go and travel, and he
does a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
That all over the world. Yes, has a busy schedule
in the fall, that's for sure. So he is a
Sagittarius rise. And but you think about this, I mean,
his chart fits him so well, it really does, because
his moon is in the sign that you're familiar with
of Capricorn.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Wow. Wow, that's how he keeps organized?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well, it is, And Capricorn is of course ruled by
the planet Saturn, and Capricorn is all about stability and longevity.
Things related to Capricorn they last for a long long time.
And we know that Santa has been around for about
(07:37):
some three hundred years. I mean I know the exact date,
but I'm not going to tell you, but he goes
back to the seventeen hundreds. That's a long Doing this
for so long is really truly remarkable, and you couldn't
do that without a Capricorn rising. And you know, to
think about that, not only does he do it every year,
(08:00):
but also like how does he hit all those stores
at the same time. I mean, it's like he's everywhere.
It's because of that Capricorn nature that he just has
gotten this figured out. It's been stamped in over hundreds
of years and he can pull it off consistently. So
he's amazing.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Basically got the Capricorn. This is what you're doing, saying
to the Sagittarius. Yes, I know you want to go
out and party and adventure and go everywhere. Here's where
you need to be at.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well, he's like, you ain't getting any younger, so you
better rest up for the whole year, so you can
pull these last couple of months off, right, Yes, I
mean you look at us right. Okay, Now there's one
other we talked about it the rising sign. What rising
sign would you think he is?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Oh? Boy, I mean, gosh, I can't.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Even begin back to home. You just mentioned it.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
A Leo.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
He is a Leo absolutely, I mean think of it.
Look at all this press he gets every year, and
he does it effortlessly, just like you. I mean, you
are so good in what you do, and you're so
good on the radio, and you draw attention to yourself
and you stand out there boldly. Well that's just like Santa.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And he wears bread I mean, my goodness.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, Leo's are always in the spotlight. Well what is
he in right? Right now? It's all about Santa, right
it is? Yeah? So, I mean his chart and and
Leo's are you know this natural performers. So he's that
for sure, you know. Really, the only thing I thought
(09:39):
about with his Leo rising is that Santa should be
at the front of the parade, not the back. He
really should.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
You have to remember Leo's they do like that, but
they also like to make an entrance, so right, he's
making he's the end because he's waiting everybody and then
here's the star.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Okay, okay, well that works too well. We can't sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I got to make everybody else can just go ahead
of me, and then I'll just make my entrance.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Okay, here she comes. So a couple of other things.
I thought we might just take a look at some
of his planets and signs that are scattered around the chart.
Now you mentioned Jupiter with his expanding waistline. But the
other thing that he has is just tremendous access to
assets because he has such a huge factory up there
(10:36):
in the North Pole that he can make all these
toys and all these gifts and presents for the whole world.
I mean, that's got to be Jupiter in the second
House of Money and Possessions, right, is it. Well, that's
exactly where it is, absolutely that there.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You go, Hey, his elves, they don't have to work
for free.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
No oh no, he has plenty of resources with that
Jupiter in there, and it's always expanding. Jupiter is all
about things getting bigger. So you know, when we were kids,
Christmas was like like this, you know, and now Christmas
is like this, Well that's Jupiter there you go. I mean,
you can't make this stuff up, folks, right, we say
that all the time. So then the other one that
(11:17):
I was kind of impressed that he has is Pluto,
the planet of transformation, is in Santa's first house, his
ascendant house, which means, well, think about all the transformations
of his image that he's gone through all these years.
He's like all the rest of us. I mean, he
(11:39):
started off small and he just grew into the role.
He really did. He didn't start off big, mister Clause
with the whole operation that he has up there now,
with all the elves and all the factories and all
the reindeer and the delivery service and everything. He didn't
start that way back in the seventeen hundreds. It was
just him and ma Claus.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
E grassroots kind of dude.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
But he just developed. And that's with Pluto. Wherever Pluto
is in your chart, that's an area of your life
that you are going to transform over time. Well he's
been at it for three hundred years and look at
what happens.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
And he's just getting bigger and bigger. I mean he's
digital now.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
You could follow his play online now I got to
ask you about the longevity of his marriage to Missus Claws.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
There's got to be well, that's coming up next. I
knew you would be right there. So I took a
look at the seventh House, and in the seventh House
of Relationships, you hit it. And that was the next
thing on the list. Is Venus in the sign of Torus, Oh,
seventh House of relationships. I mean, why not? Right? It
(12:46):
has to be because they've been married for three hundred
some years. I mean they're like glue. That's a relationship
that has stayed together and Trus's stay put.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Around it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Somebody in our business, Jim Nantz, the great sportscaster over
at CBS, is a Taurus, and he started when he
was twenty six and he wants to retire when he's
about seventy five. It's like, the guy is just a rock.
That's a Taurus. So that's his relationship. And it's not
only his relationship with his wife, but think about it,
(13:22):
it's a relationship with his whole team. And really, even
though this is more like the eleventh House, he has
a relationship like that with the whole world, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
He He does. We love Santa.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, and Santa loves us and that's because of Venus,
the love planet is. And by the way, because when
you have that Leo rising the Taurus over there is
basically the way that it works out is that Venus
is in the late degrees of Taurus for it to
(13:58):
be in the seventh house. So he that's part of
that longevity. You can use the degrees that a planet
is in as a marker of early signatures versus later signatures,
for example. So they got married a little later, but
boy has it stuck.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And again, I know his elves are really his children,
but what about that part of the chart.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Do you see anything in there?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
You know, I didn't pull the fifth house, which is
where children are, but really those are employees. That's more
of the sixth house. Yeah, that's more like I guess.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
The whole world's children are his kids if you think
about it.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Oh yeah, and you know, and he has such an
incredible relationship with the entire world and that is represented
in astrology by the eleventh house. But the other point
that I wanted to bring out that I thought was
just really significant about Santa's chart is in his tenth house,
which we call that the mid heaven area. Most people
(15:03):
look to that for their career, but really it's kind
of how we stand on top of the world because
that mid heaven point in astrology is the sun at
its highest point in the sky on the day you
were born. We have the ascendant where it comes up,
we have the mid heaven where it's up at the
highest point, and we have the descendant you mentioned at
(15:24):
the beginning, that's where the sun sets. And then we
have what's called the mm Koli or the Nator that's
the sun at the darkest point of the night, if
you will. It's lowest trajectory in the sky. Well, at
the top of his chart, with him standing up to
the world, we find the planet Neptune. Wow, and I
(15:47):
just thought this was so cool because that is how
we appear to the world. And if you think about Neptune,
we're talking about the planet of illusions, the planet of dreams,
planet of visions, and we're also talking about the planet
of lies and deceptions. So there's Neptune. And I thought
(16:09):
how appropriate because twas the night before Christmas, and all
through the house not a creature was stirring, not even
a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
in hopes that Saint Nicholas soon would be there. The
children were nestled, all snug in their beds, with visions
(16:33):
neptune of sugar plums dancing in their heads. You can
just feel the neptune in that can, Yes, And the
thing is about that neptune in the tenth House, Judy.
The story is whatever we want to make of it.
For some it's an illusion. For some it's a lie.
(16:56):
For some it's an image of the very highest time
timeline path we can take in our lives, of selfless service,
of love for humanity, of giving without getting, and obviously
sending cheer this time of year, Peace on earth, goodwill
(17:21):
to all, Happy holidays and merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Happy holidays, Thomas, thank you, and Merry Christmas.
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