August 25, 2025 • 24 mins
In this Sky Vibe episode, Judi asks Thomas to simplify how to get a persons birth time when they don't have it! It's called birth time rectification and there IS a way so that one can get their true "Top 3" (Sun, Moon and Rising) of their astrological natal chart!
This is not cookie cutter horoscopes! Thomas Miller is a professional astrologer with years of experience and works with some of the best in the business! He helps along with his co-host, award winning broadcaster Judi Diamond, helps to simplify in easy-to-understand terms astrology.
Judi has found it a priceless tool when it comes to her "GPS Road Map" to a mindful and true path life.
Subscribe and listen to some of our past episodes on-demand free, and any information regarding Thomas Miller and what we talk about can be found at this website: https://www.hightimelineliving.com/
Hear Judi Diamond On-Demand on the free iheartradio app, you can subscribe at this link: https://klou.iheart.com/featured/judi-diamond/
This is not cookie cutter horoscopes! Thomas Miller is a professional astrologer with years of experience and works with some of the best in the business! He helps along with his co-host, award winning broadcaster Judi Diamond, helps to simplify in easy-to-understand terms astrology.
Judi has found it a priceless tool when it comes to her "GPS Road Map" to a mindful and true path life.
Subscribe and listen to some of our past episodes on-demand free, and any information regarding Thomas Miller and what we talk about can be found at this website: https://www.hightimelineliving.com/
Hear Judi Diamond On-Demand on the free iheartradio app, you can subscribe at this link: https://klou.iheart.com/featured/judi-diamond/
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following episode does not constitute medical advice, and it's
for informational and entertainment purposes only. It's like GPS for
your life. The sky Vibe Show authentic practical astrology in
easy to understand terms with your host Judy Diamond and
professional astrologer Thomas Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, Thomas, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's a good intro. You must be feeling good today?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I am. I had a really fun died.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I had a girls night that was set up because
they wanted to learn a little bit of about astrology.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Of course, that's like the blind leading the blind.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'll bet there are a lot of those going on
right now, though, tell me more.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, just go to TikTok, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was funny.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Because so I have two questions, and so I wanted
to know with these two questions, I think we're gonna
have to break it out into two podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
All right, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So the first one is one that I was really
stuck on because I didn't know how to help them
and they kept asking me, Hey, Judy, what's my big three?
And they didn't know their birth time. Big three being
obviously the sun, moon and rising. The thing is you
need to have your birth time, and I didn't know
exactly how to do that because it's complicated.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Boy, this is such a big deal, Judy, And even
if you think you know your birth time, you may
not know your birth time because one thing you don't
know and even your mom may not know, is what
chaos was going on in that room when you were born.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, it's funny you say that because I was looking
over my chart again try to understand it, and my
birth certificate says one thirty okay. But the thing is
when there's one part of it and it's it's by
midte midhvid.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Am I saying it right the mid heaven MC.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, mid Heaven. When I read it, I go, that
is not me at all. Hmm, Like I am the
most unorganized person. It would just didn't match. Everything else
is matched. But that so I wonder too if that's
even correct.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, it's interesting that you mentioned that because I
was looking at your chart and I think that I
know we're going to I'm going to show you some
things about it here in a minute that I think
might partially answer that. But one of the suspicions right
off the bat, and you mentioned it. Your birth certificate
says one thirty pm. Whenever you have round numbers one thirty,
(02:29):
one forty five two pm, you always want to raise
an eyebrow.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's funny instinctively, my gut said, something tells me the
nurse just rounded it out all.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right, exactly. See. And that's the thing is I mean,
you're talking about all kinds of facilities, all kinds of
levels of training, and all kinds of potential chaos going
on at that precise moment. The best possible thing that
most people don't do, and even if you had this
what had happened, is to have your partner in the
(03:02):
room with you with an eye on that clock and
know that it's an accurate time. I mean it's the
clock on the wall. Accurate, you know, is the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Use your phone, that's usually the most accurate. And that's
great to for anybody who's planning and having a baby.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
This is fantastic to know.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, it's critical if you're going to practice astrology, and
astrologers do set up. They're like they make sure that
somebody is in that room for no other purpose than
to mark the time, because they realize how important that is.
So here's the concept behind it, just real quick. The
celestial wiring diagram is set to points of origination. That's
(03:43):
what astrology operates off of. When did something begin? And
you began at your first breath basically. Now, there's even
a lot of debate among astrologers as to when when
does life begin? Is it when they cut the umbilical cord?
Is it when that baby sustaining its own self? What
about a baby that has to go to nick you
(04:04):
and is having respiratory issues? You know all of that.
I tend to think, I mean, just for me, when
that beautiful, precious child comes out and takes its breath
and it's breathing the breath of life, that's as good
of an origination moment as you can you could standardize,
I think, And.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That is what my Jewish mother taught me. The Judaism
faith believes seriously different.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I love that. Wow. Okay, well see I would agree
with that because because there's a lot of rich tradition there,
and I would go with that. I would heartily go
with that. So amen, Yeah, okay, good, I'm really glad.
I'm glad to hear that, and I'm going to use
that that's a great validation. That's excellent, good to know. Okay,
(04:50):
makes so the whole wiring diagram, the clock begins, the
whole synchronicity of everything, the interpretation accuracy begins at a
point of origination. Let's just use another quick example to
drill this point down. Not that we want to be
labor it, but I want to really that you.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Get this if you were importance of it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, let's say that you were doing the chart on
Apple the stock. When would you think is the origination
of Apple?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I would think when the idea came out, but I
could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, that's formulation. But as far as if we're analyzing
the stock, like we want to look at the stock for.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The actual birth of it. You're saying, just the right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Is this something that we want to invest in? Is
this a good time to invest All of that can
be found, But we base it on the first moment
that it traded on the public stock exchange. So we
would go back to the opening bell, which probably was
nine thirty on the day that Apple first.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Traded, so the bell would be considered the company's breath.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
First breath, first bell.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yes, that was the first moment, Like it. So that's
a straight up nine thirty zero zero ding ding ding
ding off we go.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Now Apple's and the Nasdaq, so you wouldn't put it
in the New York Stock Exchange, but you get the idea.
It still is when the market opens. Sure, so even
if we think we know, we may not know our
actual birth time. And that does create a dilemma because
let me tell you what can change if we don't
get this right. First of all, you were talking about
(06:26):
your mid heaven that changes degree every four minutes, and
you can put it up on the chart. You can click, click,
click by minutes and every time you click four times,
that mid heaven changes a degree. So that's very fast.
That's really fast. So this whole thing about like my
mom had told me, you know, your same thing about
(06:47):
one thirty. My mom had told me about eight thirty,
and it turns out she was pretty close. I rectified
to eight twenty six, so I moved it back four minutes.
But here's what could change if you don't get it right.
First of all, your moon sign could change. Moon's the
fastest mover, so it's the most vulnerable to changing something.
(07:08):
Your rising sign could change if you're close on the bubble,
like a twenty nine degree rising sign or a one
degree rising sign could be the prior sign. Your house
positions could change, So you might have Jupiter in the
third house, but really it's in the second house. M.
(07:28):
That's going to affect your whole structure. You think you're
a good communicator, but really you're better at making money. M.
So you shut up and get busy. The kind of
thing right, like, don't try to tell the world about it.
If somebody an astrologer came along and read that wrong
because that was off and that Jupiter was really in
(07:49):
the second house. It's like, you are a business person.
You are all about creating plans and doing this and
doing that. Da da dah. The other thing that really
gets messed up are the progressions and what that is.
So just like the snapshot of that second, that moment
when you take your first breath, that's the snapshot of
(08:10):
your natal chart, the progressed chart. The sky keeps moving
right from that minute on. You know, the moon continues
to move and mercury moves really fast, and everything keeps moving. Well,
we can keep up with that through what is called progressions,
and it's basically bringing the chart forward to our current age,
(08:32):
and that can get really messed up because you're projecting
that inaccuracy forward over months and years and decades.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So it really is that important. It can mess up
everything basically for astrology. Now, one of the questions that
a lot of people ask, or what about twins? Have
you had that come up?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I have?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
In fact, what are the gals that was in this
group the Ladies' Night? She has a twin and she
said to me, she's nothing like me. And I go,
how many minutes born apart were you? And she goes
five minutes m hm, which pretty much says exactly what
you said.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, here's another reason why this is so important, even
five minutes. All right, So there is a way that
you can slice and dice. Astrology is all about slicing
and dicing. And for those of you who don't understand
astrology and you'd like to, but it's just so much
out there, you have to realize that all of us
(09:34):
started at zero, didn't we you?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I It's it's a language. Look, my son learned how
to speak Spanish fluently. It's taken him five years total.
But it's work.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's not something you could just look on TikTok and
they're gonna say, hey, Leo.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And and Aries get along, great, you should be a couple. No,
you gotta learn.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, that stuff really is bothering me more and more
and more as that stuff is becoming more and more popular,
because it is it's just trash really, to be honest
with it's astrological trash. It's garbage so we can slice
into So we have to learn. You have to make
the commitment. But I would ask this question, if I
could convince you that, like you've got the Google Map
(10:22):
or the Apple map on your phone, if I could
convince you that you have within the sky as above
so below the same kind of life path map that
can show you everything you need to know on your way,
and could show you the turns, and could show you
even as you're traveling that path, what adjustments to make.
(10:46):
Is that not something you'd want to get your hands on?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Absolutely? Absolutely so?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Is it worth learning? Well, the payoff is just a
whole lot more than happy hour conversation with friends. It
really is the Google Map of your soul's path here
on earth. It can show you everything about yourself if
you understand it as we've talked about, you can dissect
(11:12):
or quickly analyze what kind of employee you're dealing with,
or boss you're dealing with, step into a new job environment,
you know, the client relationships, et cetera. It is all
of that and the one thing it has oh yeah,
oh yeah yeah, partner. My gosh. I never never would
(11:34):
consider dating anybody that I hadn't you know, first question,
what's your birth time? And what is it accurate? And
let's rectify.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, so it's priceless, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Absolutely and you know, for me and for you, it
has been worth learning. Let's get back to this twins
question because that is now we are going to slice
and dice in So this is higher level stuff. But
you can take your sign. So, for example, you are
a Leo, right, So Leo has thirty degrees. Every sign
(12:08):
has thirty degrees that comprise the sign of Leo. That's
just the position as the sun is moving around a
three hundred and sixty degree circle. Each sign has thirty degrees. Well,
we can subdivide that into two and a half degree
subdivisions of that sign. So I took a look at
(12:28):
yours and It's very interesting because as we have divided
your sign of Leo into these two and a half divisions,
where you were born at twenty one degrees forty eight
minutes of Leo is actually in the Mercury. We call
them dwads. It's an astrology name. You're in the Mercury
(12:52):
subdivision of Leo. And the other thing that was interesting
is your Mercury is very close to your son and
it also is in its own Mercury subdivision. And what
do you do for a living.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm in broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
You're a communicator. What happened with your YouTube channel fifteen
years ago?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It became a TV show?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
It was a hit, yes, and picked up by you know,
a big syndication. You are a born communicator. Now, that
is all indicative that your birth time is. It may
not be exact, but it's very close. And I would
say if we moved in any direction, we would move
it back, not forward, because that really that little subdivision
(13:40):
really really works. But let's say that somebody recorded that
you were born four minutes later, then you would have
been in the next subdivision and you would have been
ruled by Mars. Could you imagine the difference of communication.
If you were had a Mars in flo luce instead
(14:00):
of a mercury influence.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'd probably be in politics.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean Mars is aggressive, mars is conflict, Mars
is of So your magic you're love that, oh yeah,
And what we're talking about here is just literally probably
two to three minutes of time difference for you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Wow, And totally that's not me at all.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Not you at all, exactly your magic would be lost
and given to another part of the sky. And thank
god you were born when you were born with that
in there. So that's just one little way that we
can look to see are we on the right track? Yes,
we probably are. But to answer the twin question, I mean,
(14:52):
a lot of people say they're born five minutes apart.
I would think that that's probably one of the most
chaotic times in the delivery room, other than obviously some
kind of life threatening situation. And that point the clock
is the last thing in the world anybody is paying
any attention to. So twins may be born five minutes apart,
(15:13):
but they might be born eight minutes apart. And if
they're born eight minutes apart, we could move up two
of those subdivided areas and that's how you can have
two kids that were born within minutes of each other,
but they could be completely different and often are right.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's fascinating, so you.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Can see how precise this needs to be. Now there
is a technique. There are several ways that you can
rectify a chart, but all of them basically do this.
Here's the concept. We take things that have happened in
your life, and that can be anything from death of
a parent, death of a grandparent, a move, getting married,
(15:53):
getting divorced, having your first child. We try to move
them up into the first say fifteen to twenty years
of life. But if we have to go further, we
have to go further and can then you look at
where structures in the chart should be to accommodate that event,
and then we adjust the birth time in order to
(16:15):
bring the chart into matching those events. And when we
get it right, they will all eventually add up. So
line up, yep, the lineup. So there is a technique.
There's a pretty easy technique that you can do. And
you talked about your mid heaven and this is really
interesting because I'll bet we could bump your mid heaven
(16:36):
back a few minutes. You might have been a one
twenty eight PM one twenty seven. And there again, that
could have been a nurse that didn't look but she
glanced up there a couple of minutes later and it
was close enough. So one thirty is close enough to
somebody who doesn't understand astrology, and for their purposes, one
thirty is probably good. You know, it's probably okay, right,
(16:58):
that's possible. But I'll bet you are maybe a one
twenty six one twenty seven, which would put you as
a late Leo mid.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Heaven, which makes way more sense.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So I think we you and I need to take
a look at this on your chart at some point,
and maybe we'll do it on the podcast so that
we could show the technique to people. But this is
something that Robert Glascock and I did a little oh
I call it a course, but it's it's a video
and a PDF, and then there's a link to a
public Old Soul, New Soul podcast on this where he
(17:32):
talked about it in great depth for about forty five minutes.
We have that available on my website for this very purpose,
because if you hire an astrologer to do this, it's
going to take them a long time and typical prices
can be. You know, it's not going to be fifty dollars,
it's going to be one hundred, one hundred and fifty
(17:53):
two fifty something. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It takes a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Takes a lot of time. But look, you know your
chart better than anything, and you know the events in
your life better than anything. So what this technique does.
You have to do a little math. You have to
do some counting. And where it gets a little tricky
is you're counting to the total degrees of thirty in
a sign. So when you cross over, like your son
(18:19):
is twenty one forty eight, so it's basically twenty two, well,
eight degrees takes you to zero virgo and then if
we have to go another fifteen degrees. See who I'm saying,
it gets you have to think in terms of thirties.
But if you can do that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Get a calculator better, It could be very helpful.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Get a calculator absolutely, have it sitting right there and
draw it out on a piece of paper and think
slowly and you'll be fine with this. Cool.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And let me just add the videos are for me
because I listen to the audio subconscious mind several times,
and it was very difficult to understand, but your video
might makes it much easier.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Good, good, Yeah, we go through it and there's a
pdf there that gives you the steps, and you're seeing
it done. You've got it in front of you in print.
You've got examples in print, you know, so it's like
you can really let this soak in. But what you
do is you move that mid heaven so that the
degree it is lines up with something significant that happens
(19:24):
in those early years of your life by age. So
you would say to you, I might say, Judy, did
something significant happen at age? Let's do one twenty one?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I got drunk.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
At your first tied your first one on?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, no, you know what, there is a great way
to show.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's one of our past podcasts that's on and you
did it because you were showing my co host on
my radio show, Billy lost his leg at three, and
you showed that as an example.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I don't if you remember, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we lined
his chart up to that exactly. So if you have
something like that, And we used Pluto because Pluto is
the planet of transformation, and it just so happened that
we were able to dial it in and then we
talked about some of the other characteristics of his life
and you know him very well that it seemed that
(20:21):
that time matched quite quite well.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So yeah, good, Yeah, And if you want to like, yeah,
we'll have the link to that exact episode in the
notes here.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yes, we will put the link to all the link
stuff we'll put in the notes. Thank you for mentioning that.
So I want to just mention this other product that
what we've been talking about here is that Robert and
I put together this program to show you. It's an
online deliverable, so you get access to it as soon
as you purchase it. It's on our new platform on
(20:53):
my website, which I'm really proud of, and it's much easier.
So you get it, you watch a thirty minute video.
You have this pdf. You can listen to the audio
if you want to keep going. But then you can
get on astro dot com, the free software, and put
in what you know. If you know one thirty, put
in one thirty if you don't know. That gets a
little bit trickier and we would probably have to In fact,
(21:17):
one of the things that I'm going to do with
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(21:37):
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(21:57):
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So I hope you'll take a look at that. It
is very much worth it and everybody, everybody. I did
my own chart rectified because my mom had told me
about eight thirty and I dialed it into eight twenty
six and I used Pluto in the Third House of
(22:20):
Siblings as this transformational relationship that I had going on
with my brother, and I dialed it in. So I
used Pluto's degree and my mid Heaven degree and I
took the year and almost ten months that we are different,
and I mapped that out into degrees. This was tough
(22:41):
to do. Then I adjusted my time to that and
it came right up to eight twenty six and it
works perfectly. So yeah, it really is. I mean, you
can There are lots of ways you can do this,
so don't be intimidated by it. You've got this, you
can do it. You know, stuff has happened at various
times in your life. It may not be big like
it was for Billy, but it is good enough for
(23:04):
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I mean, and I know you don't do it to
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You do it to get the information, the correct information
out there, not the TikTok information.
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(23:56):
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Speaker 2 (24:00):
Go on there.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The site looks great, by the way, Thomas, and again,
thank you for doing this for our listeners. It means
so much to them, I know. And this is your GPS,
this is your life.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Truly is, so you might as well get it right.
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And thank you
The following episode does not constitute medical advice, and it's
for informational and entertainment purposes only. It's like GPS for
your life. The sky Vibe Show authentic practical astrology in
easy to understand terms with your host Judy Diamond and
professional astrologer Thomas Miller.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hi, Thomas, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That's a good intro. You must be feeling good today?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I am. I had a really fun died.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I had a girls night that was set up because
they wanted to learn a little bit of about astrology.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Of course, that's like the blind leading the blind.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I'll bet there are a lot of those going on
right now, though, tell me more.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, just go to TikTok, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
All right.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It was funny.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Because so I have two questions, and so I wanted
to know with these two questions, I think we're gonna
have to break it out into two podcasts.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
All right, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
So the first one is one that I was really
stuck on because I didn't know how to help them
and they kept asking me, Hey, Judy, what's my big three?
And they didn't know their birth time. Big three being
obviously the sun, moon and rising. The thing is you
need to have your birth time, and I didn't know
exactly how to do that because it's complicated.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Boy, this is such a big deal, Judy, And even
if you think you know your birth time, you may
not know your birth time because one thing you don't
know and even your mom may not know, is what
chaos was going on in that room when you were born.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, it's funny you say that because I was looking
over my chart again try to understand it, and my
birth certificate says one thirty okay. But the thing is
when there's one part of it and it's it's by
midte midhvid.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Am I saying it right the mid heaven MC.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, mid Heaven. When I read it, I go, that
is not me at all. Hmm, Like I am the
most unorganized person. It would just didn't match. Everything else
is matched. But that so I wonder too if that's
even correct.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know, it's interesting that you mentioned that because I
was looking at your chart and I think that I
know we're going to I'm going to show you some
things about it here in a minute that I think
might partially answer that. But one of the suspicions right
off the bat, and you mentioned it. Your birth certificate
says one thirty pm. Whenever you have round numbers one thirty,
(02:29):
one forty five two pm, you always want to raise
an eyebrow.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
It's funny instinctively, my gut said, something tells me the
nurse just rounded it out all.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right, exactly. See. And that's the thing is I mean,
you're talking about all kinds of facilities, all kinds of
levels of training, and all kinds of potential chaos going
on at that precise moment. The best possible thing that
most people don't do, and even if you had this
what had happened, is to have your partner in the
(03:02):
room with you with an eye on that clock and
know that it's an accurate time. I mean it's the
clock on the wall. Accurate, you know, is the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Use your phone, that's usually the most accurate. And that's
great to for anybody who's planning and having a baby.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
This is fantastic to know.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, it's critical if you're going to practice astrology, and
astrologers do set up. They're like they make sure that
somebody is in that room for no other purpose than
to mark the time, because they realize how important that is.
So here's the concept behind it, just real quick. The
celestial wiring diagram is set to points of origination. That's
(03:43):
what astrology operates off of. When did something begin? And
you began at your first breath basically. Now, there's even
a lot of debate among astrologers as to when when
does life begin? Is it when they cut the umbilical cord?
Is it when that baby sustaining its own self? What
about a baby that has to go to nick you
(04:04):
and is having respiratory issues? You know all of that.
I tend to think, I mean, just for me, when
that beautiful, precious child comes out and takes its breath
and it's breathing the breath of life, that's as good
of an origination moment as you can you could standardize,
I think, And.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
That is what my Jewish mother taught me. The Judaism
faith believes seriously different.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I love that. Wow. Okay, well see I would agree
with that because because there's a lot of rich tradition there,
and I would go with that. I would heartily go
with that. So amen, Yeah, okay, good, I'm really glad.
I'm glad to hear that, and I'm going to use
that that's a great validation. That's excellent, good to know. Okay,
(04:50):
makes so the whole wiring diagram, the clock begins, the
whole synchronicity of everything, the interpretation accuracy begins at a
point of origination. Let's just use another quick example to
drill this point down. Not that we want to be
labor it, but I want to really that you.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Get this if you were importance of it.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, let's say that you were doing the chart on
Apple the stock. When would you think is the origination
of Apple?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
I would think when the idea came out, but I
could be wrong.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Well, that's formulation. But as far as if we're analyzing
the stock, like we want to look at the stock for.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The actual birth of it. You're saying, just the right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Is this something that we want to invest in? Is
this a good time to invest All of that can
be found, But we base it on the first moment
that it traded on the public stock exchange. So we
would go back to the opening bell, which probably was
nine thirty on the day that Apple first.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Traded, so the bell would be considered the company's breath.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
First breath, first bell.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yes, that was the first moment, Like it. So that's
a straight up nine thirty zero zero ding ding ding
ding off we go.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Now Apple's and the Nasdaq, so you wouldn't put it
in the New York Stock Exchange, but you get the idea.
It still is when the market opens. Sure, so even
if we think we know, we may not know our
actual birth time. And that does create a dilemma because
let me tell you what can change if we don't
get this right. First of all, you were talking about
(06:26):
your mid heaven that changes degree every four minutes, and
you can put it up on the chart. You can click, click,
click by minutes and every time you click four times,
that mid heaven changes a degree. So that's very fast.
That's really fast. So this whole thing about like my
mom had told me, you know, your same thing about
(06:47):
one thirty. My mom had told me about eight thirty,
and it turns out she was pretty close. I rectified
to eight twenty six, so I moved it back four minutes.
But here's what could change if you don't get it right.
First of all, your moon sign could change. Moon's the
fastest mover, so it's the most vulnerable to changing something.
(07:08):
Your rising sign could change if you're close on the bubble,
like a twenty nine degree rising sign or a one
degree rising sign could be the prior sign. Your house
positions could change, So you might have Jupiter in the
third house, but really it's in the second house. M.
(07:28):
That's going to affect your whole structure. You think you're
a good communicator, but really you're better at making money. M.
So you shut up and get busy. The kind of
thing right, like, don't try to tell the world about it.
If somebody an astrologer came along and read that wrong
because that was off and that Jupiter was really in
(07:49):
the second house. It's like, you are a business person.
You are all about creating plans and doing this and
doing that. Da da dah. The other thing that really
gets messed up are the progressions and what that is.
So just like the snapshot of that second, that moment
when you take your first breath, that's the snapshot of
(08:10):
your natal chart, the progressed chart. The sky keeps moving
right from that minute on. You know, the moon continues
to move and mercury moves really fast, and everything keeps moving. Well,
we can keep up with that through what is called progressions,
and it's basically bringing the chart forward to our current age,
(08:32):
and that can get really messed up because you're projecting
that inaccuracy forward over months and years and decades.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So it really is that important. It can mess up
everything basically for astrology. Now, one of the questions that
a lot of people ask, or what about twins? Have
you had that come up?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
I have?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
In fact, what are the gals that was in this
group the Ladies' Night? She has a twin and she
said to me, she's nothing like me. And I go,
how many minutes born apart were you? And she goes
five minutes m hm, which pretty much says exactly what
you said.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, here's another reason why this is so important, even
five minutes. All right, So there is a way that
you can slice and dice. Astrology is all about slicing
and dicing. And for those of you who don't understand
astrology and you'd like to, but it's just so much
out there, you have to realize that all of us
(09:34):
started at zero, didn't we you?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes, we did.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
I It's it's a language. Look, my son learned how
to speak Spanish fluently. It's taken him five years total.
But it's work.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's not something you could just look on TikTok and
they're gonna say, hey, Leo.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And and Aries get along, great, you should be a couple. No,
you gotta learn.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah, that stuff really is bothering me more and more
and more as that stuff is becoming more and more popular,
because it is it's just trash really, to be honest
with it's astrological trash. It's garbage so we can slice
into So we have to learn. You have to make
the commitment. But I would ask this question, if I
could convince you that, like you've got the Google Map
(10:22):
or the Apple map on your phone, if I could
convince you that you have within the sky as above
so below the same kind of life path map that
can show you everything you need to know on your way,
and could show you the turns, and could show you
even as you're traveling that path, what adjustments to make.
(10:46):
Is that not something you'd want to get your hands on?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Absolutely? Absolutely so?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Is it worth learning? Well, the payoff is just a
whole lot more than happy hour conversation with friends. It
really is the Google Map of your soul's path here
on earth. It can show you everything about yourself if
you understand it as we've talked about, you can dissect
(11:12):
or quickly analyze what kind of employee you're dealing with,
or boss you're dealing with, step into a new job environment,
you know, the client relationships, et cetera. It is all
of that and the one thing it has oh yeah,
oh yeah yeah, partner. My gosh. I never never would
(11:34):
consider dating anybody that I hadn't you know, first question,
what's your birth time? And what is it accurate? And
let's rectify.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You know, so it's priceless, it's.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Absolutely and you know, for me and for you, it
has been worth learning. Let's get back to this twins
question because that is now we are going to slice
and dice in So this is higher level stuff. But
you can take your sign. So, for example, you are
a Leo, right, So Leo has thirty degrees. Every sign
(12:08):
has thirty degrees that comprise the sign of Leo. That's
just the position as the sun is moving around a
three hundred and sixty degree circle. Each sign has thirty degrees. Well,
we can subdivide that into two and a half degree
subdivisions of that sign. So I took a look at
(12:28):
yours and It's very interesting because as we have divided
your sign of Leo into these two and a half divisions,
where you were born at twenty one degrees forty eight
minutes of Leo is actually in the Mercury. We call
them dwads. It's an astrology name. You're in the Mercury
(12:52):
subdivision of Leo. And the other thing that was interesting
is your Mercury is very close to your son and
it also is in its own Mercury subdivision. And what
do you do for a living.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I'm in broadcasting.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
You're a communicator. What happened with your YouTube channel fifteen
years ago?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
It became a TV show?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
It was a hit, yes, and picked up by you know,
a big syndication. You are a born communicator. Now, that
is all indicative that your birth time is. It may
not be exact, but it's very close. And I would
say if we moved in any direction, we would move
it back, not forward, because that really that little subdivision
(13:40):
really really works. But let's say that somebody recorded that
you were born four minutes later, then you would have
been in the next subdivision and you would have been
ruled by Mars. Could you imagine the difference of communication.
If you were had a Mars in flo luce instead
(14:00):
of a mercury influence.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I'd probably be in politics.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, I mean Mars is aggressive, mars is conflict, Mars
is of So your magic you're love that, oh yeah,
And what we're talking about here is just literally probably
two to three minutes of time difference for you.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Wow, And totally that's not me at all.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Not you at all, exactly your magic would be lost
and given to another part of the sky. And thank
god you were born when you were born with that
in there. So that's just one little way that we
can look to see are we on the right track? Yes,
we probably are. But to answer the twin question, I mean,
(14:52):
a lot of people say they're born five minutes apart.
I would think that that's probably one of the most
chaotic times in the delivery room, other than obviously some
kind of life threatening situation. And that point the clock
is the last thing in the world anybody is paying
any attention to. So twins may be born five minutes apart,
(15:13):
but they might be born eight minutes apart. And if
they're born eight minutes apart, we could move up two
of those subdivided areas and that's how you can have
two kids that were born within minutes of each other,
but they could be completely different and often are right.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
It's fascinating, so you.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Can see how precise this needs to be. Now there
is a technique. There are several ways that you can
rectify a chart, but all of them basically do this.
Here's the concept. We take things that have happened in
your life, and that can be anything from death of
a parent, death of a grandparent, a move, getting married,
(15:53):
getting divorced, having your first child. We try to move
them up into the first say fifteen to twenty years
of life. But if we have to go further, we
have to go further and can then you look at
where structures in the chart should be to accommodate that event,
and then we adjust the birth time in order to
(16:15):
bring the chart into matching those events. And when we
get it right, they will all eventually add up. So
line up, yep, the lineup. So there is a technique.
There's a pretty easy technique that you can do. And
you talked about your mid heaven and this is really
interesting because I'll bet we could bump your mid heaven
(16:36):
back a few minutes. You might have been a one
twenty eight PM one twenty seven. And there again, that
could have been a nurse that didn't look but she
glanced up there a couple of minutes later and it
was close enough. So one thirty is close enough to
somebody who doesn't understand astrology, and for their purposes, one
thirty is probably good. You know, it's probably okay, right,
(16:58):
that's possible. But I'll bet you are maybe a one
twenty six one twenty seven, which would put you as
a late Leo mid.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Heaven, which makes way more sense.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
So I think we you and I need to take
a look at this on your chart at some point,
and maybe we'll do it on the podcast so that
we could show the technique to people. But this is
something that Robert Glascock and I did a little oh
I call it a course, but it's it's a video
and a PDF, and then there's a link to a
public Old Soul, New Soul podcast on this where he
(17:32):
talked about it in great depth for about forty five minutes.
We have that available on my website for this very purpose,
because if you hire an astrologer to do this, it's
going to take them a long time and typical prices
can be. You know, it's not going to be fifty dollars,
it's going to be one hundred, one hundred and fifty
(17:53):
two fifty something. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
It takes a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Takes a lot of time. But look, you know your
chart better than anything, and you know the events in
your life better than anything. So what this technique does.
You have to do a little math. You have to
do some counting. And where it gets a little tricky
is you're counting to the total degrees of thirty in
a sign. So when you cross over, like your son
(18:19):
is twenty one forty eight, so it's basically twenty two, well,
eight degrees takes you to zero virgo and then if
we have to go another fifteen degrees. See who I'm saying,
it gets you have to think in terms of thirties.
But if you can do that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Get a calculator better, It could be very helpful.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Get a calculator absolutely, have it sitting right there and
draw it out on a piece of paper and think
slowly and you'll be fine with this. Cool.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And let me just add the videos are for me
because I listen to the audio subconscious mind several times,
and it was very difficult to understand, but your video
might makes it much easier.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Good, good, Yeah, we go through it and there's a
pdf there that gives you the steps, and you're seeing
it done. You've got it in front of you in print.
You've got examples in print, you know, so it's like
you can really let this soak in. But what you
do is you move that mid heaven so that the
degree it is lines up with something significant that happens
(19:24):
in those early years of your life by age. So
you would say to you, I might say, Judy, did
something significant happen at age? Let's do one twenty one?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I got drunk.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
At your first tied your first one on?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Well, no, you know what, there is a great way
to show.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
It's one of our past podcasts that's on and you
did it because you were showing my co host on
my radio show, Billy lost his leg at three, and
you showed that as an example.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I don't if you remember, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we lined
his chart up to that exactly. So if you have
something like that, And we used Pluto because Pluto is
the planet of transformation, and it just so happened that
we were able to dial it in and then we
talked about some of the other characteristics of his life
and you know him very well that it seemed that
(20:21):
that time matched quite quite well.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
So yeah, good, Yeah, And if you want to like, yeah,
we'll have the link to that exact episode in the
notes here.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Yes, we will put the link to all the link
stuff we'll put in the notes. Thank you for mentioning that.
So I want to just mention this other product that
what we've been talking about here is that Robert and
I put together this program to show you. It's an
online deliverable, so you get access to it as soon
as you purchase it. It's on our new platform on
(20:53):
my website, which I'm really proud of, and it's much easier.
So you get it, you watch a thirty minute video.
You have this pdf. You can listen to the audio
if you want to keep going. But then you can
get on astro dot com, the free software, and put
in what you know. If you know one thirty, put
in one thirty if you don't know. That gets a
little bit trickier and we would probably have to In fact,
(21:17):
one of the things that I'm going to do with
this new platform that I have Judy Is We're going
to do some webinars where people who have bought that product,
we're going to answer questions for them. So we'll be
supporting this in the future going forward. That is available
for thirty four to ninety seven on high Timeline Living
(21:37):
dot com. That's going to be my new home, High
Timeline Living dot com. And you can scroll down to
the products and find the chart Rectification course and that's
what you're looking for chart rectification course. So it's thirty
four to ninety seven and that is so much cheaper
(21:57):
than you can hire it out, and we are going
to support you to be able to get it done.
So I hope you'll take a look at that. It
is very much worth it and everybody, everybody. I did
my own chart rectified because my mom had told me
about eight thirty and I dialed it into eight twenty
six and I used Pluto in the Third House of
(22:20):
Siblings as this transformational relationship that I had going on
with my brother, and I dialed it in. So I
used Pluto's degree and my mid Heaven degree and I
took the year and almost ten months that we are different,
and I mapped that out into degrees. This was tough
(22:41):
to do. Then I adjusted my time to that and
it came right up to eight twenty six and it
works perfectly. So yeah, it really is. I mean, you
can There are lots of ways you can do this,
so don't be intimidated by it. You've got this, you
can do it. You know, stuff has happened at various
times in your life. It may not be big like
it was for Billy, but it is good enough for
(23:04):
doing this process and then we'll be there to help
support you as well.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I love the price because think about it. You go
to dinner with you and your honey or even by yourself,
and you're gonna spend forty minimum.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
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Speaker 3 (23:20):
Is prompting me to raise the price here before we
launch this podcast.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I mean, and I know you don't do it to
make the money.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You do it to get the information, the correct information
out there, not the TikTok information.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You know. I just really want help people, to help
people get this, and it is so critical that people
do this that I wanted to put something in their
hands that was, you know, enough that it justified the
time that we took to put into this product and
that it would be affordable enough that anybody seriously could
buy it. So High timelineliving dot com. Good, thank you.
(23:56):
What is that again, High timelineliving dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Go on there.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
The site looks great, by the way, Thomas, and again,
thank you for doing this for our listeners. It means
so much to them, I know. And this is your GPS,
this is your life.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Truly is, so you might as well get it right.
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