November 17, 2024 • 25 mins
On November 19, 2024 the planet Pluto enters the sign of Aquarius for the next 20 years. No, this isn't the "Dawning of the Age of Aquarius" but it is the most significant thing in the sky for the next two decades of our lives.
Thomas created a longer video with graphic descriptions of what we talk about in this episode. You can view it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-PY2VnDjLQ&t=64s
Thomas created a longer video with graphic descriptions of what we talk about in this episode. You can view it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-PY2VnDjLQ&t=64s
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following episode does not constitute medical advice and is
for informational and entertainment purposes only. It's like GPS for
your life. The Sky Vibe Show authentic practical astrology in
easy to understand terms with your host Judy Diamond and
professionalistrologer Thomas Miller. I just watched your fun astrology YouTube video.
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This week is huge. We're talking it hasn't happened with
the planets in two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, basically, that's what we're going Well, we're going back
to the seventeen seventies, which of course was the founding
of America. And what's happening this week as we're recording
this podcast in November of twenty twenty four is something
that does not take place. But for every first of all,
on a twenty year basis, there's a sign change we'll
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talk about, and then a two hundred and fifty year
cycle that basically kind of go together.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
All right, let's start with the two hundred and fifty All.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, Pluto. We're going to hear Pluto a lot in
this episode. Is common to both of these events. The
two hundred and fifty year cycle basically is Pluto's orbit
around the Sun. I mean, that's pretty easy to pick out, right,
takes two hundred and technically two hundred and forty eight
years to go all the way around. What we're doing
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is we're dropping in on one little section of that orbit,
and that's when Pluto is in the constellation of Capricorn
in our zodiac. All right, So that's the magic Pluto
in Capricorn. It can only happen every two hundred and
fifty years, So if we walk that back even one
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thousand years, we only have four times. It's quick math, rightwifty.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, this is what's crazy about this video is you
did a comparison of history in this time period when
this happened in the sky.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Right now, you know your astrology well enough to know
that what is the sign that comes after Capricorn? So
if Pluto's in Capricorn and we're going to take a
little snapshot of that, what's the next sign that Pluto
has to move into?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Aquarius?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Aquarius? This is the dawning of the well we've had
We've had four of these in the last thousand years,
so we can't really say that, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's not the dawning it's just another one.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Just another one, right, this is another age of Aquarium, Aquarius,
but it has to move in there. So if we're
going to drop in on Pluto's orbit and look at
the Capricorn section of it, then the next section has
to be Aquarius. And the contrast between moving from Capricorn
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to Aquarius is huge.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's like night and day to me because if anybody
knows anything about even a little al till anybody doesn't,
Capricorn is all about a structure. This is where I'm
staying in my lane. Everything is in its place, and
Aquarius is all about, oh no, don't tell me what
to do. Let's find new ways, let's find revolution.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, yes, revolutionary. So you're exactly right, and in a
mundane interpretation. So mundane is when we're talking about the
world or governments or collective. Yeah, the collective. Capricorn, especially
the end of Capricorn, which is where Saturn has been
represents out with the old so that you can have
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in with the new with Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And let's bring up the fact that Pluto is about death.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And rebirth, transformation. It sure is, and it's about power,
and that's one of the things that we kind of
forget here because one guy said it was like three
times the power of Mars, and we always think of
Mars as being representative of aggressive energy. Multiply that times
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three or thereabouts, and you get the idea Pluto is
just a lot bigger, powerful energy.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I've heard Pluto be describe the lord of the underworld.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well that's its yeah, kind of its correlation with Scorpio definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, So here you have a tug award. Seems like
between you've got Capricorn Aquarius that are so opposite and
then you've got Pluto. You know, that's just kind of
egging both of them on.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would think, yeah, you know, you're a better astrologer
than you let on. You kind of play this, you
kind of play this redhead thing going, you're you're a
sharp astrologer there, Judy Diamond, get away with it your books. No,
you're exactly right, And you said tension and conflict, and
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that's what we can do here is we can just
walk back really quickly. I would like to point people
to the YouTube video.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It was really you have to see this video because
when you see the comparisons in detail of what Thomas
put out, it'll your jaw will drop.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, that's where you get the full ambiance of this.
It was released on November sixteenth, twenty twenty four. People
catching this podcast way on down the line, you can
go back to that date and it is the weekly
outlook that we've been doing on that channel, and it
is about the Pluto moving into Aquarius. But you mentioned
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this idea of conflict and tension and what we have
in each of these situations, and I'm not saying. Now,
let me make this really clear. You remember the president
that used to say that, Richard Nixon. Now, let me
make something perfectly clear. I'm going to make it very clear.
I'm going to make this very clear. I am not
saying that history is going to repeat in any kind
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of way.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
There's always two sides to every coin.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, and Pluto and Aquarius and all this is revolutionary,
and it might say, we're not repeating the past. We
have a whole new plan, so we're going to allow
for that. Right, I am not saying that history is
going to repeat, but those who don't learn from history
repeat it. So let's go back and let's see what
happened that we might pick up some clues and then
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we can watch see. I'm not forecasting either. We just
did the episode on predictions. This is not a prediction.
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
As you're a good astrologer, a really good astrologier will
not does not do predictions.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, But what this does is it gives us a
context to watch these developments unfold. So we're recording this
the week after the big election of twenty twenty four
and Donald Trump won and the Republican sweep of the
House and Senate, which I technically I didn't think was
even demographically possible anymore because things have been re engineered
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over the last twenty years. This is not politics. I'm
just saying that was. You know, we're coming off of
a wow here, so when you see these wows, I mean,
what was COVID A big wow? Well, when COVID came,
I was like, oh, we're starting with the pandemic this time,
because I haven't I had a context of what had
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happened before. So let's just look at this real quick.
But we're going to leave you for the longer version
and where you can see it in a chart side
by side. Go to the video on YouTube and the
Fun Astrology podcast channel.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The link will be in the body of the convents
of this or in the body of this podcast in
the blog part. Please go to it because it's to
see the visuals will blow your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We will do that too. So let's hop back a
thousand years. Let's get in a time machine and let's
go back to the late twelve hundreds. There we go,
a good sound effect there, they like it, all right,
So we go back to twelve eighty four. That was
when Saturn and Pluto were in the same line in
the sky in Capricorn three times ago. Go all right,
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we don't get four because we'll explain that when we
get up to it. But three times ago puts us
to twelve eighty four. Then Pluto keeps moving. Twelve years
later it enters Aquarius in twelve eighty six. Now, the
thirteen hundreds became a bridge period basically between the Dark
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Ages on one side. But really we're talking now the
end of the Middle Ages is the thirteen hundreds, but
still dead history, and we switched by the fourteen hundreds.
We were in the Italian Renaissance. Crazy and some historians
Judy say that the Italian Renaissance, and I mean, think
about Florence and Rome and everything that was going on
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in that culture. They say it's still to this day
was the best time to be on this planet.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I have heard that before.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So how do we talk about revolution? How do we
go from the Dark Ages to the Italian Renaissance by
hopping over one century of the thirteen hundreds. That's kind
of what we're talking about here. But during the thirteen
hundreds there was tremendous turmoil in Europe. They had climate change,
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but it wasn't hot, it was cold. Crops froze, livestock froze,
and as a result, there was a famine across Europe.
There was one hundred year war, a battle between England
and France. England wanted France. Sound familiar of something that's
going on today, Yes, it does, and the French fought
back and eventually won. But it was one hundred and
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twenty five year war. And oh, by the way, there
was a pandemic, the Bubonic plague. Wow, the biggest one
in the history of the planet.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And there was also another revolution called the Ottoman Empire,
and that was basically an Islamic state, an Islamic control
of parts of three continents based We won't go into
the details on that. You can look it up if
you're not familiar, but that lasted over seven hundred years,
So you talk about I mean this one and I'll
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The reason I'm saying we need to pay attention to
twelve eighty four is because I think today in the
sky parallels twelve eighty four more than anything else. It
mimics it, it does, it does. I think it's more
similar to twelve eighty four than the next two. We're
going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
How is Saturn in this because Saturn is Lord Karma.
If I am correct and that's going to loom, then correct.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, Saturn and Pluto, you got to think about. One
of the things that astrology is based upon and is
known for is triggers. So yes, you know the day
that you were born was a trigger of your life.
The other thing we have are these planetary alignments that
trigger these cycles. So when Saturn and Pluto conjoined in
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twelve eighty four, that was a trigger. Saturn moves on,
it goes a lot faster than Pluto, so it just
kept on going. But it's Pluto then that the spotlight
shifted to. When we look at what took place as
a result, so you're always looking this at this through
this lens that you said a minute ago of conflict
and breakthrough, conflict, breakthrough, conflict, breakthrough, and we're there today.
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So real quick, let's hop up to the next one
is at the fifteen eighteen and that was Saturn and
Pluto again in Capricorn. Boom, there they are fifteen eighteen. Well,
six months prior to that is when Martin Luther, this
little rebel monk and priest in Germany, typed an email
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that he had printed out to the Pope and it
had ninety five points that they weren't doing anymore in
his congregation under his domain. Came the trigger of the
Protestant Reformation, the breakaway from the control that was established
back in the thirteen and fourteen hundreds in Rome, where
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the Vatican became the political and religious center of the
world of Europe of that time. Then this little guy,
this little commoner monk in Germany, in a language the
Pope couldn't even probably read. You know, these types of
this letter writes this letter, and it literally the energy
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of this reformation, this rebellious energy caught fire, and from
that eighty denominations eighty main denominations broke away from the
Catholic Roman Catholic Church.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's one commoner people belong to. See to this, one
person can make a difference, very powerful thing.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, and there's a theme through this. So Martin Luther
and another commoner Joan of Arc. You know, we mentioned
one hundred years War that took place under the last
aspect in the twelve hundreds. Joan of Arc was a
French peasant woman who rallied the French army to victory a.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Woman people, I mean, wow, born in fourteen twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then let's fast forward. Well, so basically the tension
in the thirteen hundreds was religious freedom and oppression. Wow,
oppression of the commoners. From that, the breakthrough became the
Protestant Reformation. And then also what started to take place
was migration. Like people left their homes for the first time.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's like they people back then did not travel. Well.
Now they started to migrate into different areas for the
very first time in the planet's history.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
All right, fast forward two hundred and fifty more years,
and we've got another commoner on the scene. Paul Revere.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Paul Revere.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, Paul Revere, the British are coming. The British are coming, right, Yeah,
And a common her stirred up the troops, got them
out of bed the midnight ride and alerted that the
British troops were about to invade the soil. And they
were met with incredible resistance. It's like boom. So another commoner.
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He was a goldsmith, he was a tradesman.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So I bet you there was something because I know
with Joan of Arc she had a little bit of
a little feeling of it was guide divine intervention, and
I had read somewhere that with Paul Revere it was
a dream again, divine intervention.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I don't think that's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, And you know, the seventeen hundreds were a lot
more familiar with. But obviously during that time we had
the American Revolution, the French Revolution. We had the oppression
from both countries. The colonists were tired of the king's
controlled taxation without representation, dumped the tea into the harbor,
the whole thing, and of course the French resistance that
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eventually became the French Revolution. So we know that story
a lot or that's more vivid in our history, but
here we are again. So now we fast forward to today.
And this is where this gets interesting, because in January
of twenty twenty, January twelfth, Saturn and Pluteau came together
again in the sky in the sign of Capricorn, and
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I'm Mark.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Two months later, we're in lockdown.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was watching We had a group together that met
I was in living in Dallas at the time. We
met up by the DFW airport. I had about twenty
people at a coffee shop and we set my laptop
up and I put the chart up on the clock
mode and we watched that roll in and everybody was
busy talking and everything. I was like glued to the screen.
I was like, you guys, you just don't know how
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big this of a deal. This is three weeks later
we lockdown COVID pandemic.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And what's crazy is if you are interested and you
go to any of Thomas's podcasts. But I believe it
was on Funestchralgier, Old Soil, New Soul that you had.
This was all in there. You can go back in
time before the pandemic and it was there.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's the fun astrology. Back in twenty nineteen, we
were all over it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You were all over it because I go back and
listen to it. I started listening to you into the
about a year to the pandemic, I want to say,
and I went back and went, holy molely, Uh, this
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was looking at the same thing the same way.
Then would go back and look at this. And that's
where it didn't surprise me because I had seen that
the planetary configuration was more similar to twelve eighty four,
and I realized that that was probably the closer correlation.
So when the pandemic happened, that literally was my response. Oh,
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we're starting with it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
What's interesting, though, is I wonder, because there's also big talk.
There's all these youngsters, young young that are really seeing
a new way of being and thinking, and they don't
want to follow necessarily the old guidelines. Will this help
to make it different where we won't have the struggle?
Because I'm telling you, if the two planets and if
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the aquariums that Capricorn could actually see eye to eye,
can you just imagine what a beautiful thing it would be.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, one of the things that I put on the
list in the video to watch for is spiritual renaissance,
that's spiritual.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes, we don't want just one religion. We don't want
we're opening up and this is young. They're really into mindfulness,
mindlessness as I want to call it, and to find
grasping at things that are away from what is just
this is this religion and this is this is what
you have to do kind of a way. And I
wonder if it's because they've been through it before, they've
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been through it before, they've been through it before.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Well that's true, yeah, because in each one of these
religious transformation was part of the formulating So I think, yes,
I think that's definitely one of the things that will
happen here. The list is the complete list. And even
from an opportunity of how can we invest into this
and how can we profit from it? What should we
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be looking for, what kinds of areas there should be
breakthroughs in medicine and science, healthcare. We're going to have
this technological thing we have AI, and already a lot
of people have become very wealthy from AI and it
still is in its infancy relatively. But here's the conflict
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with the technological freedom of AI. I mean, you can
go on that thing and it'll draw pictures for you now,
you know. I mean, it's like it's incredible. I'm just
talking chat GPT. I mean, yeah, they've got mid Journey
and all that other stuff. But it's like, there is
so much that AI can do now and we are
just like, what a year and a half into it.
So you think about that and think about all the
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possibilities there, and jobs are being eliminated because of it.
But with the technological advancements are going to come the
ability to restrict So you think about the apps that
track you, and you'd say, you know what, I could
just turn my phone off right here because I don't
want anybody whoever is out there looking knowing where what
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I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Too late for that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, it's already you know, in a number of countries,
China in particular, it's being used. So everybody's pretty well
read up on that, so you know, and we saw
a bunch of things around the healthcare, passports and all
that stuff during the pandemic that some people did not
like and some people did. So, I mean there's going
to be this desire to control. That's one of the
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themes that comes through here. So if history repeats that's
one of the things we'll see is the authoritarianism is
going to increase, and then that's going to be pushed
back harder, possibly than it has been in the past. Now,
one thing that I see today that I'm just wondering
because I don't think it would have been this way
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back then. However, maybe it was. The apathy today is
at an all time high. Yes, people will walk past
somebody being beaten up by a gang of thugs in
a parking lot and walk past it and not even
look over at it. It's true, they'll walk away. So
the apathy of well, as long as I can have
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my phone and get in my car and go to
my job and nodda, da da da, don't mess with me,
and I'm not going to mess with you. And that
apathy could be a real problem when the authoritarian side
of this equation kicks in in a way that we
have not seen yet and see. Isn't it interesting that
with this election, both sides think that the other side
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is the one that would create this.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, I think if you refer to the past of
history and a commoner who changed things, I think that's
what we need to look to. Is the commoner, and
I think when it gets it's very overwhelming. As an individual, Well,
what can I do? What can I do? Here's what
you can do as an individual, And this is what
I think for me anyway, is change your own world.
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Just you, how you react to things, how you are.
If somebody is tailgating you, what would your reaction be
to that? Change it? Because it's one change like that,
and that actually affects the collective more than you even realize.
If somebody disagrees with you politically, let it go. Listen
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with an open heart, love, let it go, don't let
it get to you, because that's how one person can
make a difference. If you could be a Paul Revere
and you have this opportunity, go for it.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, you just nailed it.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
This is called the sky vibe for a reason. Vibe
is energy and nothing is created, no building is made,
no war is made without a thought. First. The thought
is energy. And if you think love and you put
love out now it might sound like I'm doing my
you know, California granola girl, but I do believe it's true.
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You know, I believe in it, and I think one
person can make a difference one at a time, one
at a time. It's not about being right, it's not
about being wrong or proving the other person wrong. It's
about love.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You're exactly right. And I think one of the other
things that we can use this historical approach to frame
our current situation is not to let these things bother
us too much. I mean, okay, yes, there was a
famine back then. Could there be a famine? I mean,
food shortage would be not a fun thing to go through,
But you have to realize that whatever it is. I mean,
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we've just been through a pandemic that was a big deal.
That was a really big deal, and a lot of
us lost loved ones and we will never forget. I
lost some people very close too, and there may be
more of that kind of challenge because that is the
historic pattern. But just realize, for whatever reason, you, me
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and you out there listening are still here, and like
Judy said, that gives us a purpose. And what we
can do is we can shine a light, but we
can't be a bright light if we're living in fear.
So don't fear because the ultimate breakthrough always was infinitely
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better than what was before, I mean radically infinitely better.
So we have to almost understand what we're quote unquote
fighting for, because that fighting along that conflict line is
a pattern. You've got to fight for it, but it's
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so much more worth it. And if you even get
out of thinking about ourselves and we think about our
kids and our grandkids and our legacy, we're fighting for
them too. Absolutely, So don't get rattled by what's going on.
And it might get a little crazy, it might get
a lot crazy, but it's all part of this unwinding
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because we can't bury the old until we get rid
of it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And one of the things, and this is my Leo
Sun Energy talking face pluto'sphere face it. Yeah, you ain't
gonna get me, not this time.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And sometimes it might be ancestral DNA. If you believe
in that which I do, karma, you know, it could
be any of that stuff where you have to face
it and don't be apathetic, don't be but absolutely face it,
but do it with love. Oh you can't get me,
but I love you anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
And realize that in doing that you are part of
that positive transformation. And if there is a spiritual renaissance,
which I firmly believe there's going to be, we will
be on the right side of the road to experience that.
That's what I'm positioning.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
For you would be both. And I'm also positioning as
we get to be, we get to be witnesses as
how How blessed are we that we actually are here
right now. Yes, it's scary, it is, but face the fear.
It's a four letter word.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah. Now we've got a ringside seat to the greatest
show the planet has ever seen.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Bring it on. You've got to see this video as
we were talking about. You'll see what I'm talking about.
Just go to Fun Astrology Podcasts again. The leak is
in the body of this podcast. We do this out
of pure love and just kind of awareness and we
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The following episode does not constitute medical advice and is
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your life. The Sky Vibe Show authentic practical astrology in
easy to understand terms with your host Judy Diamond and
professionalistrologer Thomas Miller. I just watched your fun astrology YouTube video.
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This week is huge. We're talking it hasn't happened with
the planets in two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, basically, that's what we're going Well, we're going back
to the seventeen seventies, which of course was the founding
of America. And what's happening this week as we're recording
this podcast in November of twenty twenty four is something
that does not take place. But for every first of all,
on a twenty year basis, there's a sign change we'll
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talk about, and then a two hundred and fifty year
cycle that basically kind of go together.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
All right, let's start with the two hundred and fifty All.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Right, Pluto. We're going to hear Pluto a lot in
this episode. Is common to both of these events. The
two hundred and fifty year cycle basically is Pluto's orbit
around the Sun. I mean, that's pretty easy to pick out, right,
takes two hundred and technically two hundred and forty eight
years to go all the way around. What we're doing
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is we're dropping in on one little section of that orbit,
and that's when Pluto is in the constellation of Capricorn
in our zodiac. All right, So that's the magic Pluto
in Capricorn. It can only happen every two hundred and
fifty years, So if we walk that back even one
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thousand years, we only have four times. It's quick math, rightwifty.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, this is what's crazy about this video is you
did a comparison of history in this time period when
this happened in the sky.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Right now, you know your astrology well enough to know
that what is the sign that comes after Capricorn? So
if Pluto's in Capricorn and we're going to take a
little snapshot of that, what's the next sign that Pluto
has to move into?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Aquarius?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Aquarius? This is the dawning of the well we've had
We've had four of these in the last thousand years,
so we can't really say that, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's not the dawning it's just another one.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Just another one, right, this is another age of Aquarium, Aquarius,
but it has to move in there. So if we're
going to drop in on Pluto's orbit and look at
the Capricorn section of it, then the next section has
to be Aquarius. And the contrast between moving from Capricorn
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to Aquarius is huge.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It's like night and day to me because if anybody
knows anything about even a little al till anybody doesn't,
Capricorn is all about a structure. This is where I'm
staying in my lane. Everything is in its place, and
Aquarius is all about, oh no, don't tell me what
to do. Let's find new ways, let's find revolution.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, yes, revolutionary. So you're exactly right, and in a
mundane interpretation. So mundane is when we're talking about the
world or governments or collective. Yeah, the collective. Capricorn, especially
the end of Capricorn, which is where Saturn has been
represents out with the old so that you can have
(03:33):
in with the new with Aquarius.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And let's bring up the fact that Pluto is about death.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And rebirth, transformation. It sure is, and it's about power,
and that's one of the things that we kind of
forget here because one guy said it was like three
times the power of Mars, and we always think of
Mars as being representative of aggressive energy. Multiply that times
(04:01):
three or thereabouts, and you get the idea Pluto is
just a lot bigger, powerful energy.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I've heard Pluto be describe the lord of the underworld.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well that's its yeah, kind of its correlation with Scorpio definitely.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, So here you have a tug award. Seems like
between you've got Capricorn Aquarius that are so opposite and
then you've got Pluto. You know, that's just kind of
egging both of them on.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I would think, yeah, you know, you're a better astrologer
than you let on. You kind of play this, you
kind of play this redhead thing going, you're you're a
sharp astrologer there, Judy Diamond, get away with it your books. No,
you're exactly right, And you said tension and conflict, and
(04:50):
that's what we can do here is we can just
walk back really quickly. I would like to point people
to the YouTube video.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It was really you have to see this video because
when you see the comparisons in detail of what Thomas
put out, it'll your jaw will drop.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Well, that's where you get the full ambiance of this.
It was released on November sixteenth, twenty twenty four. People
catching this podcast way on down the line, you can
go back to that date and it is the weekly
outlook that we've been doing on that channel, and it
is about the Pluto moving into Aquarius. But you mentioned
(05:26):
this idea of conflict and tension and what we have
in each of these situations, and I'm not saying. Now,
let me make this really clear. You remember the president
that used to say that, Richard Nixon. Now, let me
make something perfectly clear. I'm going to make it very clear.
I'm going to make this very clear. I am not
saying that history is going to repeat in any kind
(05:48):
of way.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
There's always two sides to every coin.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Well, and Pluto and Aquarius and all this is revolutionary,
and it might say, we're not repeating the past. We
have a whole new plan, so we're going to allow
for that. Right, I am not saying that history is
going to repeat, but those who don't learn from history
repeat it. So let's go back and let's see what
happened that we might pick up some clues and then
(06:14):
we can watch see. I'm not forecasting either. We just
did the episode on predictions. This is not a prediction.
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
As you're a good astrologer, a really good astrologier will
not does not do predictions.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, But what this does is it gives us a
context to watch these developments unfold. So we're recording this
the week after the big election of twenty twenty four
and Donald Trump won and the Republican sweep of the
House and Senate, which I technically I didn't think was
even demographically possible anymore because things have been re engineered
(06:53):
over the last twenty years. This is not politics. I'm
just saying that was. You know, we're coming off of
a wow here, so when you see these wows, I mean,
what was COVID A big wow? Well, when COVID came,
I was like, oh, we're starting with the pandemic this time,
because I haven't I had a context of what had
(07:15):
happened before. So let's just look at this real quick.
But we're going to leave you for the longer version
and where you can see it in a chart side
by side. Go to the video on YouTube and the
Fun Astrology podcast channel.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
The link will be in the body of the convents
of this or in the body of this podcast in
the blog part. Please go to it because it's to
see the visuals will blow your mind.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
We will do that too. So let's hop back a
thousand years. Let's get in a time machine and let's
go back to the late twelve hundreds. There we go,
a good sound effect there, they like it, all right,
So we go back to twelve eighty four. That was
when Saturn and Pluto were in the same line in
the sky in Capricorn three times ago. Go all right,
(08:02):
we don't get four because we'll explain that when we
get up to it. But three times ago puts us
to twelve eighty four. Then Pluto keeps moving. Twelve years
later it enters Aquarius in twelve eighty six. Now, the
thirteen hundreds became a bridge period basically between the Dark
(08:23):
Ages on one side. But really we're talking now the
end of the Middle Ages is the thirteen hundreds, but
still dead history, and we switched by the fourteen hundreds.
We were in the Italian Renaissance. Crazy and some historians
Judy say that the Italian Renaissance, and I mean, think
about Florence and Rome and everything that was going on
(08:47):
in that culture. They say it's still to this day
was the best time to be on this planet.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I have heard that before.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
So how do we talk about revolution? How do we
go from the Dark Ages to the Italian Renaissance by
hopping over one century of the thirteen hundreds. That's kind
of what we're talking about here. But during the thirteen
hundreds there was tremendous turmoil in Europe. They had climate change,
(09:15):
but it wasn't hot, it was cold. Crops froze, livestock froze,
and as a result, there was a famine across Europe.
There was one hundred year war, a battle between England
and France. England wanted France. Sound familiar of something that's
going on today, Yes, it does, and the French fought
back and eventually won. But it was one hundred and
(09:37):
twenty five year war. And oh, by the way, there
was a pandemic, the Bubonic plague. Wow, the biggest one
in the history of the planet.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And there was also another revolution called the Ottoman Empire,
and that was basically an Islamic state, an Islamic control
of parts of three continents based We won't go into
the details on that. You can look it up if
you're not familiar, but that lasted over seven hundred years,
So you talk about I mean this one and I'll
(10:10):
The reason I'm saying we need to pay attention to
twelve eighty four is because I think today in the
sky parallels twelve eighty four more than anything else. It
mimics it, it does, it does. I think it's more
similar to twelve eighty four than the next two. We're
going to talk about.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
How is Saturn in this because Saturn is Lord Karma.
If I am correct and that's going to loom, then correct.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, Saturn and Pluto, you got to think about. One
of the things that astrology is based upon and is
known for is triggers. So yes, you know the day
that you were born was a trigger of your life.
The other thing we have are these planetary alignments that
trigger these cycles. So when Saturn and Pluto conjoined in
(11:02):
twelve eighty four, that was a trigger. Saturn moves on,
it goes a lot faster than Pluto, so it just
kept on going. But it's Pluto then that the spotlight
shifted to. When we look at what took place as
a result, so you're always looking this at this through
this lens that you said a minute ago of conflict
and breakthrough, conflict, breakthrough, conflict, breakthrough, and we're there today.
(11:28):
So real quick, let's hop up to the next one
is at the fifteen eighteen and that was Saturn and
Pluto again in Capricorn. Boom, there they are fifteen eighteen. Well,
six months prior to that is when Martin Luther, this
little rebel monk and priest in Germany, typed an email
(11:48):
that he had printed out to the Pope and it
had ninety five points that they weren't doing anymore in
his congregation under his domain. Came the trigger of the
Protestant Reformation, the breakaway from the control that was established
back in the thirteen and fourteen hundreds in Rome, where
(12:10):
the Vatican became the political and religious center of the
world of Europe of that time. Then this little guy,
this little commoner monk in Germany, in a language the
Pope couldn't even probably read. You know, these types of
this letter writes this letter, and it literally the energy
(12:30):
of this reformation, this rebellious energy caught fire, and from
that eighty denominations eighty main denominations broke away from the
Catholic Roman Catholic Church.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
That's one commoner people belong to. See to this, one
person can make a difference, very powerful thing.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, and there's a theme through this. So Martin Luther
and another commoner Joan of Arc. You know, we mentioned
one hundred years War that took place under the last
aspect in the twelve hundreds. Joan of Arc was a
French peasant woman who rallied the French army to victory a.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Woman people, I mean, wow, born in fourteen twelve.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And then let's fast forward. Well, so basically the tension
in the thirteen hundreds was religious freedom and oppression. Wow,
oppression of the commoners. From that, the breakthrough became the
Protestant Reformation. And then also what started to take place
was migration. Like people left their homes for the first time.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
It's like they people back then did not travel. Well.
Now they started to migrate into different areas for the
very first time in the planet's history.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
All right, fast forward two hundred and fifty more years,
and we've got another commoner on the scene. Paul Revere.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Paul Revere.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, Paul Revere, the British are coming. The British are coming, right, Yeah,
And a common her stirred up the troops, got them
out of bed the midnight ride and alerted that the
British troops were about to invade the soil. And they
were met with incredible resistance. It's like boom. So another commoner.
(14:15):
He was a goldsmith, he was a tradesman.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So I bet you there was something because I know
with Joan of Arc she had a little bit of
a little feeling of it was guide divine intervention, and
I had read somewhere that with Paul Revere it was
a dream again, divine intervention.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I don't think that's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
No, And you know, the seventeen hundreds were a lot
more familiar with. But obviously during that time we had
the American Revolution, the French Revolution. We had the oppression
from both countries. The colonists were tired of the king's
controlled taxation without representation, dumped the tea into the harbor,
the whole thing, and of course the French resistance that
(14:55):
eventually became the French Revolution. So we know that story
a lot or that's more vivid in our history, but
here we are again. So now we fast forward to today.
And this is where this gets interesting, because in January
of twenty twenty, January twelfth, Saturn and Pluteau came together
again in the sky in the sign of Capricorn, and
(15:17):
I'm Mark.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Two months later, we're in lockdown.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I was watching We had a group together that met
I was in living in Dallas at the time. We
met up by the DFW airport. I had about twenty
people at a coffee shop and we set my laptop
up and I put the chart up on the clock
mode and we watched that roll in and everybody was
busy talking and everything. I was like glued to the screen.
I was like, you guys, you just don't know how
(15:41):
big this of a deal. This is three weeks later
we lockdown COVID pandemic.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
And what's crazy is if you are interested and you
go to any of Thomas's podcasts. But I believe it
was on Funestchralgier, Old Soil, New Soul that you had.
This was all in there. You can go back in
time before the pandemic and it was there.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, it's the fun astrology. Back in twenty nineteen, we
were all over it.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
You were all over it because I go back and
listen to it. I started listening to you into the
about a year to the pandemic, I want to say,
and I went back and went, holy molely, Uh, this
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I was looking at the same thing the same way.
Then would go back and look at this. And that's
where it didn't surprise me because I had seen that
the planetary configuration was more similar to twelve eighty four,
and I realized that that was probably the closer correlation.
So when the pandemic happened, that literally was my response. Oh,
(16:41):
we're starting with it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
What's interesting, though, is I wonder, because there's also big talk.
There's all these youngsters, young young that are really seeing
a new way of being and thinking, and they don't
want to follow necessarily the old guidelines. Will this help
to make it different where we won't have the struggle?
Because I'm telling you, if the two planets and if
(17:06):
the aquariums that Capricorn could actually see eye to eye,
can you just imagine what a beautiful thing it would be.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, one of the things that I put on the
list in the video to watch for is spiritual renaissance,
that's spiritual.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yes, we don't want just one religion. We don't want
we're opening up and this is young. They're really into mindfulness,
mindlessness as I want to call it, and to find
grasping at things that are away from what is just
this is this religion and this is this is what
you have to do kind of a way. And I
wonder if it's because they've been through it before, they've
(17:42):
been through it before, they've been through it before.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Well that's true, yeah, because in each one of these
religious transformation was part of the formulating So I think, yes,
I think that's definitely one of the things that will
happen here. The list is the complete list. And even
from an opportunity of how can we invest into this
and how can we profit from it? What should we
(18:04):
be looking for, what kinds of areas there should be
breakthroughs in medicine and science, healthcare. We're going to have
this technological thing we have AI, and already a lot
of people have become very wealthy from AI and it
still is in its infancy relatively. But here's the conflict
(18:24):
with the technological freedom of AI. I mean, you can
go on that thing and it'll draw pictures for you now,
you know. I mean, it's like it's incredible. I'm just
talking chat GPT. I mean, yeah, they've got mid Journey
and all that other stuff. But it's like, there is
so much that AI can do now and we are
just like, what a year and a half into it.
So you think about that and think about all the
(18:46):
possibilities there, and jobs are being eliminated because of it.
But with the technological advancements are going to come the
ability to restrict So you think about the apps that
track you, and you'd say, you know what, I could
just turn my phone off right here because I don't
want anybody whoever is out there looking knowing where what
(19:08):
I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Too late for that.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, it's already you know, in a number of countries,
China in particular, it's being used. So everybody's pretty well
read up on that, so you know, and we saw
a bunch of things around the healthcare, passports and all
that stuff during the pandemic that some people did not
like and some people did. So, I mean there's going
to be this desire to control. That's one of the
(19:32):
themes that comes through here. So if history repeats that's
one of the things we'll see is the authoritarianism is
going to increase, and then that's going to be pushed
back harder, possibly than it has been in the past. Now,
one thing that I see today that I'm just wondering
because I don't think it would have been this way
(19:53):
back then. However, maybe it was. The apathy today is
at an all time high. Yes, people will walk past
somebody being beaten up by a gang of thugs in
a parking lot and walk past it and not even
look over at it. It's true, they'll walk away. So
the apathy of well, as long as I can have
(20:17):
my phone and get in my car and go to
my job and nodda, da da da, don't mess with me,
and I'm not going to mess with you. And that
apathy could be a real problem when the authoritarian side
of this equation kicks in in a way that we
have not seen yet and see. Isn't it interesting that
with this election, both sides think that the other side
(20:42):
is the one that would create this.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, I think if you refer to the past of
history and a commoner who changed things, I think that's
what we need to look to. Is the commoner, and
I think when it gets it's very overwhelming. As an individual, Well,
what can I do? What can I do? Here's what
you can do as an individual, And this is what
I think for me anyway, is change your own world.
(21:06):
Just you, how you react to things, how you are.
If somebody is tailgating you, what would your reaction be
to that? Change it? Because it's one change like that,
and that actually affects the collective more than you even realize.
If somebody disagrees with you politically, let it go. Listen
(21:26):
with an open heart, love, let it go, don't let
it get to you, because that's how one person can
make a difference. If you could be a Paul Revere
and you have this opportunity, go for it.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, you just nailed it.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
This is called the sky vibe for a reason. Vibe
is energy and nothing is created, no building is made,
no war is made without a thought. First. The thought
is energy. And if you think love and you put
love out now it might sound like I'm doing my
you know, California granola girl, but I do believe it's true.
(22:00):
You know, I believe in it, and I think one
person can make a difference one at a time, one
at a time. It's not about being right, it's not
about being wrong or proving the other person wrong. It's
about love.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
You're exactly right. And I think one of the other
things that we can use this historical approach to frame
our current situation is not to let these things bother
us too much. I mean, okay, yes, there was a
famine back then. Could there be a famine? I mean,
food shortage would be not a fun thing to go through,
But you have to realize that whatever it is. I mean,
(22:35):
we've just been through a pandemic that was a big deal.
That was a really big deal, and a lot of
us lost loved ones and we will never forget. I
lost some people very close too, and there may be
more of that kind of challenge because that is the
historic pattern. But just realize, for whatever reason, you, me
(22:59):
and you out there listening are still here, and like
Judy said, that gives us a purpose. And what we
can do is we can shine a light, but we
can't be a bright light if we're living in fear.
So don't fear because the ultimate breakthrough always was infinitely
(23:19):
better than what was before, I mean radically infinitely better.
So we have to almost understand what we're quote unquote
fighting for, because that fighting along that conflict line is
a pattern. You've got to fight for it, but it's
(23:39):
so much more worth it. And if you even get
out of thinking about ourselves and we think about our
kids and our grandkids and our legacy, we're fighting for
them too. Absolutely, So don't get rattled by what's going on.
And it might get a little crazy, it might get
a lot crazy, but it's all part of this unwinding
(24:01):
because we can't bury the old until we get rid
of it.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
And one of the things, and this is my Leo
Sun Energy talking face pluto'sphere face it. Yeah, you ain't
gonna get me, not this time.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And sometimes it might be ancestral DNA. If you believe
in that which I do, karma, you know, it could
be any of that stuff where you have to face
it and don't be apathetic, don't be but absolutely face it,
but do it with love. Oh you can't get me,
but I love you anyway.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
And realize that in doing that you are part of
that positive transformation. And if there is a spiritual renaissance,
which I firmly believe there's going to be, we will
be on the right side of the road to experience that.
That's what I'm positioning.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
For you would be both. And I'm also positioning as
we get to be, we get to be witnesses as
how How blessed are we that we actually are here
right now. Yes, it's scary, it is, but face the fear.
It's a four letter word.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Yeah. Now we've got a ringside seat to the greatest
show the planet has ever seen.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Bring it on. You've got to see this video as
we were talking about. You'll see what I'm talking about.
Just go to Fun Astrology Podcasts again. The leak is
in the body of this podcast. We do this out
of pure love and just kind of awareness and we
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