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May 14, 2025 • 78 mins
Buffy and co work to thwart the Master's master (get it?) plan to walk above ground, Xander struggles to kill his best friend turned vampire, and the Master and Luke are definitely hooking up
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This weekend I went to a local queer bar called Milk,
named after Harvey Milk.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Shout out, I've heard of it.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
It's a really fun spot. Last weekend was the LDS Conference,
which is like when all the like authorities of the
church get together and like give talks for like two
days straight. So the theme missionary Realness, and all my

(00:28):
friends were dressed as missionaries. I dressed me and another
friend we dressed as sister missionaries and then everyone else
wore like a little button ups and like black slacks.
And we were in a group that had a bunch
of return missionaries as well, so it was really fun.
No one wore their tags, but the bartenders were wearing
a bunch of tags. We were like we should have
made some or like, you know, but we showed up

(00:51):
to the bar. The only people who are dressed as
missionaries are the staff and are the bartenders?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Same lame everyone else out.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
And that's the thing is, people like came up to us,
they're like what are you doing? And I'm like, the
category is missionary real This lame?

Speaker 3 (01:08):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I hate nothing more than a party pooper at a
themed party. I know you don't have to like spend money.
You don't have to like get crazy with it. But
if you're not going to try to match the theme,
stay home. I don't want you there.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
But that's the thing is people came up to.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Us, They're like, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
They had no idea, and it was like like a
club on a Saturday night. But I was like, lame
as shit, Like, what the hell bartenders are dressed as missionaries?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
What do you mean you're not in knee leg skirts
at this club?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
I literally I was in like a little I was
in like little Bobby's socks. I had like knee length skirt.
I have like a little capsize. Yeah literally, oh in
my hair. We were having fun.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Good for you. No, that's cool. You're cool and everyone
else's lamell I know.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Recovering Gleek presents.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
A clear Buffy podcast. Hi everyone, I'm Lina, I'm Ian,
and welcome to play.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
A queer Buffy podcast.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Have I ever told you was speaking of being the
only person dressed out of the party.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
This haunts me and I probably brought it up before,
but my fifth grade teacher, there was a tradition that
every year on his birthday, all of his students would
dresses him because he was, like, you know, in his sixties.
He had a very iconic look. He would always wear
a plaid T shirt and then suspenders. Yeah, it was
a whole thing. And I knew this because two of

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my older siblings had been in his class, and then
two of my friends in that class also knew because
their older siblings had had him, and my year it
was his last year. He was going to retire, so
it was a big deal. It was like, let's all
dressed like mister Keyesling. And I met with my two
friends and we were like, Okay, it's mister Keysing's birthday.

(03:08):
We got a dress like him. We're the only ones
that know this is a tradition, so it's our job
to spread the word. My two friends said, we'll get
the student directory, we'll call everyone.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
We'll not let them know. No.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
No, I got ready. I like gelled my hair to
have a side part. I maybe even like spray painted
it white. Yeah I did. I had like the plaid shirt,
I had the suspenders. I like went all out, and
you already know where this is going.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I do.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Not only did my friends not tell anyone, they also
didn't even dress up themselves. Oh and weirdly, it's like
more hurtful is if it was intentionally they were trying
to like ostracize me, it would have been so mean,
but at least.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I respect it.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
It was more like they literally said to me, oh,
we just decided not to do it, and we forgot
to tell you. And I, poor ten year old me
stating there dressed like a sixty five year old man, was.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Like, you forgot, you forgot.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
So I literally remember I had to go through the
entire school they dressed like that. Thankfully, mister Keysling a
real one. He was so cool he and I think
he could tell that I was really embarrassed, so he
like made it a really big deal. He like took
me to other classrooms to show the other teachers and
be like, look at how fun this is, which was embarrassing,
but I could tell he was trying to do it
to make me feel better. Yeah, but I remember kids

(04:34):
from other classes being like, why are you.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Dressed like that?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I remember like being on the playground and seeing kids
whispering and pointing at me, and I was like, yeah,
no one knows that I'm cool and they're lame because
I'm matching the theme and they.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Are especially like it being kind of unfortunately a secret.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, that was the thing. I couldn't point to the
sign that said missionary realness. I was like, well, our
two classmates were supposed to in form y'all and they
decided not to, So a dagg on my face.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's so tough because I do have a memory of
like showing up like too crazy Hair Day with crazy hair,
and like I was like, maybe like all the fifth
graders decided like they were too cool to participate in
crazy Hair Day. So I just have like a cup
in my hair and look and I looked, and I
think I took the cup out. But I mean there
was a sign to point you to say, like it's

(05:26):
Spirit week.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
We have the funk you sorry, you guys have no
school spirit, no exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
And season committers to the bit like you and me.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
I just I mean, I didn't get named most school spirited.
It designated in middle school for nothing. I was throwing
down during Spirit Week. I took that shit serious, of course.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Honestly, though I remember in like high school it was
really Spirit Week got really hard for me because I
sensed that, like, you know, growing up especially in our time,
I felt like it was just so not cool to
like give a shit. So I was like, oh gosh,
I really can't give a shit anymore. It's really tough
or like, you know, not my safety, but like you know,

(06:12):
my like social standing in this school if I care
about stuff is not good anymore in it, you know.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
See, girl, I was brave. I remember that. Did you
join National Thespian Society in high school?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah? Did did they do at my school to join it?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
So for anyone who's unaware, National Thespian Society is essentially
just like a nationwide theater group that if you're a
drama kid in high school you can join. It doesn't
cost money, right, it's just like you have to I
don't remember it costing any money.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
I don't actually I think it does cost money.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Well, but I remember it was like you had to
be nominated. Sure, I might be talking out of my ass.
You had to be nominated, and then you join it.
And then if.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
You you would like do count up all your hour,
like you would get points for doing stuff, like if
you were in a show, you get x amount of points.
If you saw show, you get x amount of point
if you wrote something good x amount of points, and
if you got the grand total of points by the
time you graduated, you like got a special sash. That
was kind of getting an end of it. But at
my high school, to get inducted, you would be nominated

(07:22):
and then to accept the nomination. Basically, they had a
Thespian Inductions week where every day was a different theme.
And I went, and I was fully in high school
and I went all out, and I remember one of
them was like you had to dress like a character
from a musical and you were told what you were

(07:43):
assigned a character.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
And I got and I got Sweeney.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
Todd, and I dressed a movie I've never seen, just
like Johnny Depp as Sweeney Todd. And I like spray
painted my hair all big. Hairspray my hair. Yeah, I've
never seen it.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Whoa.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
I just like, I don't need to hear his reedy
little voice singing those songs.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, well, I think the movie is good.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
I hate that man, I've seen the Professional Show. I
maybe I'll watch the movie someday, but I'm not really
in a hurry. But I hairsprayed my hair all big.
I like put a streak in my hair. I wore
like garters on my arms. I was wearing like a
vest and a button down shirt, and I did a

(08:28):
bunch of makeup on my face. And I was really
quiet my freshman year, like I did not really talk
to anyone. And I remember sitting in my English class
and my English teacher coming up to me and asking
me if I was feeling okay because I looked sick.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
And the fact that I came, Oh.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
You did the makeup so good?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yes, and I said, future makeup designer. Thank you very much,
you said. But the fact was like she saw me
dressed like that, and her first instinct was it, he's
wearing a costume.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
It was like, oh, he must not be feeling well.
He looks pale. Is like, I don't know. Something about
that is so embarrassing to me. Love.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
And then we had a massive fire drill and I
had to stand This was in May, in Arizona. I
had to stand out in the parking lot for forty
five minutes. The soles on my dress shoes started melting,
melting dress as Johnny Depp as Sweeney Todd.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
God if those walls Katar which I had a picture.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
They tell us to break up. I do have a picture.
It was my profile picture. I was incredibly proud of
this costume. I'll pull it up for you.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I remember for Spirit Week one week it was like
Decades Day, so I dressed as Heather Chandler.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Hell yeah, oh random.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
It was like my senior year, and I remember my
French teacher was like, so what are you dressed as?
I was like, I'm dressed as the eighties and she's like,
no one gets the eighties, right, okay, damn, okay girl, Okay.
Oh and you had a missus love it.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I yeah, I did have a missus love it, so
shout out. I mean we had zero classes together. We
took this picture during lunch, so I was alone in
all of my classes.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yeah, but during lunch me and Emlane. Hey, Emlane. I
had no other Heathers. I did it iconically, not a
group of people, just the one, just the one. Oh

(10:40):
my god. Welcome to our podcast, everyone, happy you're.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Here, Welcome, Welcome. Talking about Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I
have had a very similar experience as I did when
we first started recovering Gleek, where suddenly Buffy is all
I think about and all I want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And yeah, and you're going to finish it in two weeks.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah, I'm like actively having to keep myself from contuning
to watch because I'm like, I can't get my wires crossed.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I need to know what happened in the Harvest.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I can't like accidentally start talking about Double Meat Palace.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Hello, uh huh, don't I know it? Don't I know it?
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm feeling the same.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Last night, you texted me that you're gonna start watching Angel,
which that's super exciting. I had a friend reach out
to me, who is watching Buffy right now, which, oh
my god, Like I've literally never had a friend watch
Buffy before, so I'm really excited.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
But she was like, when should I watch Angel? And
I was like, I said, you're asking the wrong bitch,
I know.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
I was like, actually, she should watch Angel though, starting
after season three of Buffy's when she'd but it's tricky.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Either you trade off.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Either you like one Buffy one Angel, or if you
want to stick to one show, you should watch season
four Buffy first and then season one of Angel.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Okay, well I'll let her know and maybe maybe I'll
do that, or maybe I should just watch it now.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
I am committed to watching it. Yeah, yeah, I'm excited.
I'm excited as well. So some lore people describe it
as like exciting.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
The lore is that I watched season one of Angel
and then stopped because and maybe my opinion will change,
But as a seventeen year old, I just did not
find Angel to be a compelling character.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Me neither, and I don't like cop shows. Yeah, so
everything I've heard about it, I've heard people enjoy it,
but I just like, I'm not. I don't think I'm
the target audience. And Angel isn't my favorite character.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
A lot of our recurring characters from Buffy that I
love so much are in Angel. A bunch like in
Angel more than they're in Buffy, which that is what
makes me be like I should go back, and.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Really I should give it a chance.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
We'll see I remember the I mean this isn't a
spoiler because no one knows who she is if you've
never seen it. I do remember Faith's appearance in season
one of Angel. I was like, this is art, this
is television. Yeah, this is the greatest thing ever captured.
But all the episodes preceding it.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
I was not very into Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey,
but we're not here to talk about Angel.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
We're here to talk about buffet proper, proper.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Do you want to hear some slacks? Hell yeah, tell
us about the Harvest. Oh yeah, it's time.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
The Harvest is the second episode of the first season
of Buffy the Vampire Slayer in the second episode in
the series, written by Joss S. Whedon and directed by
John T. Kretschmer, who is not the guy from last week.
That's yeah, sorry, finish your thought. No, I mean, it's
just so interesting. These are companion episodes. You would think that,

(13:42):
like they would have one director for both. Yeah, and
they aired on the same night. It was like just
a one it was a double feature. Yeah, but yeah,
they brought in the same they brought it a different guy.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
So interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Maybe the first.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Guy really had such a terrible experience he was like.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Get me out of here.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Maybe this episode originally broadcasted on March tenth, nineteen ninety seven,
same day as last week. They obviously a pair. Oh
my gesus, it's been so long since I've done Glas
or any sort of fun fact. I don't remember how
to talk like we just said just a second ago.

(14:20):
They were companion episodes. They aired in the same night.
Let me tell you some some fun facts. Josh Weedn't
noted that he felt horrible for giving Eric Belaflour, who
plays Jesse, so many lines with s's in them. He
had such a difficult time getting the lines out around
the prosthetics that new ones were being designed for the
vampire characters to speak frequently. Jesse had such a tough

(14:43):
time that they went back to the drawing board and
they were like, we have to get new vampire mouths
and vampire teeth because this isn't going to work. They
can't say they're s'es. They redesigned them, but they kept
this design for the people in the background, which.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Is super awesome.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Can you imagine Jesse a character we know we have
this dramatic reveal and Zia's like Jesse and he turns
around all dramatically and he's like it fill me van there.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Honestly, I'd I'd be into it. Medicine, I'd be into
it too.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
I do quickly have an Eric Balfour fact that I
cut from last week because it was a spoiler, which
is that. Originally, Joss Whedon wanted to put Eric Balfour,
who played Jesse, in the opening titles so that it
would be a shock when he dies this episode, but
then ultimately it was too expensive because he would only

(15:35):
be in the opening titles for that one episode, and
then every other episode he wouldn't and it was too
expensive to do the opening titles twice in one season,
so didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
The Master has a line that says You're all week,
and that is in reference to Mark Metcalf's famous.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Line in Animal House. What the hell? I know? The
Master's a big Balushi fan. I guess so well on Earth? Okay? Cool?
I know?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I was like, oh, okay, not afraid of reference. The Harvest,
along with Welcome to the Hell Mouth, had an audience
of three point four million households upon its initial airing,
which is super awesome and really cool. Those are those
are my slacks. A lot of people like to associate
this episode with the forming of the official Scooby Gang,

(16:23):
because last week, you know, they hadn't really teamed up.
In this week, they officially teamed up, and Jesse isn't
a part of the Scooby Gang, so he welcome to
the Scoobies.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
I'm glad you said it, because I wrote Scooby in
the recap and I was going to be like, should
I refer to them as the Scoobies.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
We're going to refer them to y Shobies.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
People say that this is the episode that they became the.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Scoobies, but because they're not called the Scoobies still season two.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's why it was like Dewey exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
So for any first time watchers Buffy and co if
we refer to the Scoobies or the Scooby Gang, that
is what they come to be known as in the show.
And it's just easier from the jump to be saying
Scoobies and not being like Buffy and her friends.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Oh yeah, it's basically anyone who supports Buffy in her slight.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
So all of you hopefully, yeah, we're all in the gang.
I've got to recap now, are you ready born ready?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah? Previously I'm Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
After getting trapped by vampires and a mausoleum, Buffy manages
to rescue Xander and Willow, bringing them into the Slayer fold,
while Jesse is captured by vampires, Luke and Darla. The
Master decides to use Jesse as bait to Lord Buffy
and a stubborn Zander into the sewers, but our heroes
escape sands a newly sired Jesse. Meanwhile, Giles and Willow

(17:46):
discover that tonight is the Harvest, a night when the
Master can feed through an avatar Luke until he becomes
strong enough to break free of his vatar.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's what that word means. I know, I like it.
It just made me giggle. I'm sorry, you're.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Fine until he the Master becomes strong enough to break
free of his underground imprisonment. Vampires and Scoobies converge to
the Bronze Xander, Dust, Jesse, Rip, Horny King, Buffy, Dust Luke,
keeping the Master trapped underground, and everyone else rationalizes the
night's events as a biker gang turf war.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
And that's the show. Isn't that so Isn't that so funny?
I love that and I do. I love that too.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
That's one of my favorite aspects of this show. In
the same way that last week the guy dies and
everyone just kind of like moves on. I think this
is also an essential tone establishing moment to be like, literally,
no matter what happens, people are going to do everything
possible to explain it away as something normal.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yes, and that is how we're going.

Speaker 4 (18:49):
To get away with Buffy fully doing a flip onto
the stage in front of everyone and killing a vampire
and everyone the next day being like, oh, yeah, Buffy's
that weird girl and she's not a hero.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
What is that real girl? Weird girl who kills the guys?

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Oh yeah, I think it's smart too, because I think
so too. It makes the show more fun. However, if
it wasn't touched on, it would bother the hell out yet,
so for them immediately to be like, here's the rules
of the world, everyone is going to explain it away
and they're going to forget about it.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Are you on board and moving forward? Now that I
know that they know, I can accept it.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yes, yeah, And I think that's probably true to life,
Like we rationalize so many things that we see, and
we rationalize so many things that are going on because
that's what our brains do. I also think it makes
me think, like, I don't know this is true, but
in my moments of you know, thinking about Sunnydale High,
it is built and we don't really have the words

(19:49):
quite yet. They call it a hell mouth, but they're
not entirely sure what's what. But they live on this
they live in this area where mystical things are constantly happening.
It it doesn't it's not like super weird to think, like, A,
they see this shit all the time. B something could
be even keeping them from like, yes, notizing it, you know,

(20:13):
like the hell mouth could be like infiltrating their their shit.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, there's like a group psychosis, but the opposite of
a psychosis. We're instead of imagining crazy things, crazy things.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Are happening, and you're imaginating normal things instead.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, did you love this episode?

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I did.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I like the first half more than I like this half,
but this half is still extremely strong.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah. I think it's still great.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I love the stuff at the Bronze. I love the
Scooby's banding together. We have some really awesome moments with
you know, Giles being too British.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think this episode's really awesome. Yeah, my first uh really.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Awesome Cordy moments. I swear to god, oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
A first shot of my girl Harmony Kendall. I okay,
so I genuinely. I love Harmony so much yea that
in my mind she's always in this show. In my mind,
it's like, where's Cordelia. Harmony Kendall is not far behind. Yes,
last night, while watching this episode, I went to look

(21:16):
at how many episodes Harmony's in. Girl is barely in
this TV show literally at all, Like, and this episode
is a bad example. But in my mind her scenes
in the show are so iconic that I literally am like,
she's a secondary lead of this TV show.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
You're kidding. I love that.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
I love irrationalizing something that's exactly it's bizarre to me
that Mercedes McNab is not in every episode.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
So I rationalize that by saying, no, she is. She is,
she is close by, And part of it is also,
what were you gonna say? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I was gonna say she she she goes to the screen.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I love she's close by.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Part of it is also Mercedes McNab is in some
of my favorite movies ever, the nineteen nineties, Adam's Family.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Movie, or.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
Specifically her performance at Adam's Family Values is like icon
one of the best performances in the movie. She is
so funny in that movie. And what happened to her career?
Where's Mercedes McNabb, I know what is she up to?
She should have been a Suffy Moore. I looked it
up last night. She hasn't been in anything in like

(22:28):
ten years. Oh really, Yeah, I don't know what to
deal with. I even went on her Instagram. She went
to a nineties themed costume party because she knows how
to dress for theme party. Dressed as the cover of
American Beauty. That's what she's up to. That was on
her Instagram. Anyways, my first order of business for this episode, genuinely,

(22:50):
the first thing on my list that we have to
get to is.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Luke and the Master are for sure banging. Oh they're
fucking absolutely, They're fucking absolutely.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
The way when Freaky Luke drinks from his wrist, I
was like, oh my.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
God, put it away. Literally that scenes she started, thought
it was his wiener.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
No, genuinely, he's given he's given him a blow gly.
That scene started, and I was like, I just wrote
in my notes, Luke in this three quarter sleeve and
this chain. Okay, gay boy, But I thought I was
just doing like a fun commentary on the fashion choice.

(23:34):
And then he got down on his knees and started
sucking off the Master and I went, okay, I said,
this is more than I remember it being.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
He also so he's like I cannot make sense of
his outfit because he has like almost a mullet adjacent
and then this chain that is like puka shell in nature,
Like it's really tight and like the chains, I don't know,
it's like rounded. And then he's wearing like leather pants
and like a little like you know, three quarter lengths sleeve.

(24:06):
But then he puts on this like damask burnt velvet jacket.
I'm like, who the hell are you, freaky Luke, He's.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
He's the Master's I literally was gonna say he's the
Master's bottom.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
And then I was like, no, I don't think it
is welcome to a career Buffy podcast.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
I guess I guess no are they They've gotten freaky,
They got freaky, they.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Got freak and then also freaky dieky Darla in the
back watching and like giggling the whole time.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
Hell yeah, she likes to watch Green Boy or Darla
Hey and.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Shout out that's okay too.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I ain't nothing wrong with.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
The cup, she said, gay rights all I Darla Darla
is another character where obviously it's just the first two episodes,
but I'm like, she's like a huge.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Part of this show.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Oh, I feel the same way. I was like Queen
Mother Darla. She's like the big bad and Buffy.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
That I like, how many episodes she's in? I'm like,
what show was I watching?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yeah, I think there's another character that I always conflate
her with.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Well, my thoughts on why I think so much about
Darla we actually can't address yet. Yeah, because they are spoilers. Yeah,
but I do think in just a few episodes I
can talk about it. There's there is a reason that
I think of Darla so often. Yeah, even though she
really is the harmony Kendall of the Master's little Cronies.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Little game, the Master's Scoopies.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Master they have a name. It's like the Brotherhood of
something something.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I'll look it up. Oh sure, Oh yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, they haven't a Buffy WICKI and they have like
they have like rolls and oh my god, a bunch
of things I've really never heard.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Before the Order of Aurelias. So here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I have heard that before.

Speaker 4 (26:07):
The reason that you and I as much as we
love Buffy. Were so reticent to start a Buffy podcast
is because we love Buffy. It's so important to us.
But there are like full college courses about Buffy the Vampires.
Oh and there are like full five seasons worth of
comics about Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Lena and I

(26:29):
don't even remember the name the Order of Aurelias. You know,
it was really like, we're casual, we're in here, We're
in here for a good time. We're in here to
talk about how the Luke is the Master's bottom and
Ala likes to watch, like that's what we're here to do.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
So if you like that, you're in the right spot.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
We can't remember Order of are well, we will tell
you that freaky Luke loves to suck the Master.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Is this freaky polythruple mas lukla.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Oh my god, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Honestly, in our own college, there was an English class
called Writing for the Occult, and I wanted to get
in that class. Literally, like for so many semesters, I
tried to get in that class, but I literally had
to take something else because I couldn't get in.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
And they had a whole section on Buffy. Just in
this episode, there is so much.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Explanation in world building, unlike, yes, what are vampires? Who
is the Master? Why is the Master stuck underground? And
I was sitting there having to rewind the scenes over
and over again to be like, Okay, do I have
this right? Are my notes correct? I really respect it
because something that frustrates me about TV shows is when
they can't be bothered to remember what they've established. And clearly,

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like the Buffy crew wanted to make a world that
had rules and made sense.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
That doesn't mean that I remember the room for a
good time.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
A three separate times I had to be like, why
can the Master not go above ground? I know now
I figured it out, but it really was. It was
a brain cramp for me to try and make it
make sense.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well, tell us why? Okay?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
So yeah, yea, So the Master came from Spain with
his bossy bottom Luke not a bossy bottom?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Did you see that he was?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
No, he's called the Master for a reason. Yeah, they're
into some like domb subs.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh hell yeah, and showed out to them.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
So they came over from Spain and because they knew
that the hell Mouth was in Sunnydale that it was
like a place where the veil between the demon world
and the human world is pretty thin, and so they
were like, Google, cool, we're gonna open this up. We're
gonna bring the old ones back. Back in the thirties,

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the Master tried to open the hell Mouth. It did
not work. It caused an earthquake that made a bunch
of the town collapse, and in doing so, the portal
like collapsing in on itself.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
He got stuck in the portal.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
So like that one little room underground is the only
place the Master can be in because that is the
room that leads to the other dimension, and he cannot
go to the other dimension and he cannot fully enter
our world.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
He is stuck between them in that room.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah, that's all.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, and so sorry Master, that's what Luke was saying.
So that is so true.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Literally, these vampires names are Luke, Darla Thomas. This can
key bastard makes him call him the Master, the Master,
whoa even Giles.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Is calling him that freak, hey, freak freak. But yeah,
so he's stuck in that room.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Basically, he's, as Giles says, he's stuck like a cork
in a bottle and if he gets strong enough then
he can burst out of it. But he needs to
get strong enough, which is why the whole avatar stuff
is happening.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, the vessel.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Hey, And also I don't know, I am still fuzzy
on our vampire is human or not, because Yeah, this
episode really hammers home that they aren't.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
That.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
Giles is like, that's not Jesse. That's the thing that
killed Jesse. That it's a virus. Sure, that essentially takes
over a host body, but it's not. The host is
not there at all anymore. It is fully a virus.
But watching future episodes of this TV show, I am like,
I don't know how true that is exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm sure maybe.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
I mean recently I read H. Edward Cullen's perspective on Twilight,
that book Midnight Son. Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah,
hell yeah, and he he views vamporism kind of similar
to that, where he is like, I'm like barely who
I was. I'm mostly I'm the demon that is the vampire,
Like the man I once was is not who I

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am anymore. I'm like barely that person anymore.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yea, yeah, so I can kind of get with that
where it's kind of like maybe they're still there in
like moments, but it's them plus a demon. Yeah, because
also their souls go away.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
We know that. Yeah, the conversations top. Yeah, keep having them.
We're gonna get We keep having them.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
We see, and by the end of this podcast, we
will be Buffy Scholars and we will be teaching a
course on it.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So everyone, of.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Course, exactly we became. We became Glee scholars. We are doctors.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
We did.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Actually that is true. We have doctors and glee studies
from Niata. It's true. Given to us by a listener
of the podcast, shout out to Nadia.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So well, we'll come to learn. We also just don't
know that many vampires yet.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, we just know this. We just know mask Luklaw.
So far.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Thomas is dead. He doesn't count, he doesn't count. And
you know, poor Jesse, he tried to even get up
in there.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
He can't. He didn't hang. They couldn't hang.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I've loved the way he.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
He was tested.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
I that is so funny. That funny, so funny. Yeah,
Xander not being able to bring himself to stab Jesse
having a moment of hesitation Meanwhile, a girl in a
panic to escape, were like, shoulder checks Jesse and he
falls forward on.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Oh my god, awesome. That is I think maybe the
funniest part of the episode. It's so good.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
It's the funniest parts to me is the vampire who
is the lighter, who's the light board up? Who is
the spotlight? And then he sees Buffy and he goes,
but he's still hold to the spotlight.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I'm like, oh my god, dude.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
He understands this is this is a show. It takes
a village village.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
In freaking Luke is like, I need to be lit.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Well, yes, shout out to the technician vampires. It is
a thankless job. But the Lukes of the world, if
you can't see him, you can't see the performance exactly.
Shout out to the vampire on spotlight and hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
It makes me think did they turn No, they couldn't have,
so they must have killed the other lighteboard up. Or
maybe that guy just works there. Maybe he just works
at the bronze.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I just being a vampire must be literally so boring.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
You are just you have to on theatrics exactly, they're
centuries old. You're just sitting around. Yeah, I would start
ranking up special skills as well. I would learn lfeboard operator.
Hell yeah, oh my god, of course I at the time.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I would do it anyway.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
You better believe the Order of Relius multi hyphenates every
single one, every single men.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
The Bronze is like the business in town, you know,
and like it operates at night.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm sure it is like probably a vampire friendly.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Workplace exactly, like how many nights are vampires there? And
not to eat anyone just because they're bored. Yeah, I
want to go to a club tender, Yeah, or they're
like I need to make some tips, I have to
go to the bar.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I gotta pour some drinks. It's a nice way for
me to connect with my community. This is another question
I have I the Bronze. How much of a club
is it?

Speaker 4 (34:41):
I guess since Sunnydale is a small town, it makes
more sense to me that like these teens are being
let in. Yeah, but like I remember when I was
in high school, I certainly was not a person who
was going out. But no, no, no, no, I do
remember like a classmate's band was playing at a bar
and so a bunch of us went. But it was

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a situation where like, we got these big x's on
our hands, who preserve drinks? Is the Bronze that kind
of situation. Does Cordy have like a big X on
her hand?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I can't tell.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
And I even was like, do they have like fake ideas?
But like even Willow is there, So I don't think
that's the case either. But I do think there are
maybe clubs that do allow teens. Yes, because I'm not
seeing a ton of drinking in the background with the Bronze.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
What's confusing to me, like spoilers but no spoilers. The
Bronze continues to be a place people go when they've
graduated in school, and my mindsel, oh.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
My god, And that's lame if it's a teen exactly.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
That's why I'm like, it can't be a teen club
because the second I'm out of high school and I'm legal,
I'm not going to the teen club anymore.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
But that's why I said going to the club club.
It makes sense that, uh, some of you has a
small town, there is no other club. The teen club
and the club club. It's all one club.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Also to go to the teen club and the club
club on Thursday and Friday.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Oh my, they're bringing that candle they're bringing That's my god.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I just sear to God every like every weekend that
I go out two days in a row. I'm like,
I need to take a week to recover. Obviously, they're
fucking fifteen, like you know, they're they have more energy
than me. But oh my god, both ends.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Don't you have class?

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Also love that last night Cordy got nearly stabbed by Buffy.
Oh my god, tonight a man brings her on stage
and is about to kill her in front of all
of her classmates and her takeaway as she goes to
her friend and she's like, you should have been there.
It was insane. I genuinely like, I'm not trying to
poke fun I generally think that is no.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
I love so funny.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Honestly, I love that so much because I think Cody
lives for the drama exactly. It's like I love these experiences,
Like obviously she's in peril. She like she like her
life is in danger. I'm sure she doesn't love that,
but she is living for the she's living to like
write her memoir someday, and she has such a fun life.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
She's small town girls, big city sensibilities. She very much
is like, I'm too cool for this town. So anything
noteworthy that happens, whether it is mortal peril or not,
she's like, I knew I was exotic and interesting.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
This thing just happened.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Exactly, of course, and she's survived to tell the tale.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Good for her.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yeahad the part where she is like chatting with her
friends at the Bronze and she's going on and on
and on for like a whole minute straight, and then
one of her friend goes like starts to like talk
like in between something that she's saying, and she's like, okay,
motor mouth, can I get a fucking send him in?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It made me giggle.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
It did make me sad because of where was Harmony Kendall.
Mercedes is already on the call sheet, She's already been
paid to be in this episode where she.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Also asked if she was going to the Bronze like
that's like in their computer class. She's like, are you
going to the Bronze tonight? Like where were you Harmony?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Well, that's okay, hear me out. That's one of those things.
I don't know if you have this experience as a
teenager but I certainly did. Where you ask your friend
if they're doing something that night for the express purpose
of getting them to invite you that like, oh, I
know Cordelia is going to the Bronze, but also Cordelia
is someone that I find very intimidating, and I know
that if, like I show up and she doesn't want

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me there, it's gonna be uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
So I'm asking her in the hopes that she says, oh, totally,
you should come. But she didn't say that. She was
just like, yeah, I am you idiot, and now okay,
I guess I'll go home.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, stand up for yourself, Harmony. I know Cordelia loves you.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
I can tell.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Uh, you know MVP of this episode though, Speaking of
that scene, is Cordelia or much love? Random long haired
kid who Harmony and Cordelia are tucking smack on Buffy
and then his head just pops in the frame like
it's a luney to the cartoon and goes who and
then like the new girl buck and he goes, what's

(39:01):
your deal? I that was hell yeah, I loved it.
It was so camp. It was so stupid. Oh my gosh.
And I think That is something about this show that
I genuinely didn't comprehend as a teenager. Mm hmm, is
how much the show is purposely silly. How much the

(39:23):
show is like we're having like you guys, at the
end of the day, they're fighting vampires, Like, yes, there
are real stakes and we care about these characters, but
at the end of the day, this is a silly
idea and we're going to have fun with it.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I have a thing about that today too, even with
like at the end of the episode when the Scoobies
are all together, Giles and Xander and Willow and Buffy
and they're all talking about how no one really remembers
or like has no like everyone is like calling it
like a biker gang whatever the hell, No one understands
that it was vampires anyway, And the way that they're

(39:58):
like talking about how they're going to save the day
and how Buffy wants to get kicked out of school
and just like in like just the silly things that
they're saying, and then Giles turning to the camera and
going like the earth is doomed.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
And it's just like that.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
In my mind growing up, the show was like high
drama and it is high drama in moments, but I
was not giving it the credit it deserves for like
as silly as it is. Yes, yes, like it's B
movie silly, it's.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Awesome exactly, exactly, like that quote said, it's B movie
with stuff going on underneath, exactly, And I do so awesome,
I do think. And this is certainly not an original thought.
People talk about this all the time. Literally, there's a
whole book written about it. Yeah, but camp is art, Like, Yeah,

(40:49):
to be able to create something that is stupid and
silly is a work of art. And then to be
able to do that and then also give it all
the pathos that Buffy ends up having, I think is
incredibly impressive. Yeah, you get, to quoth Hannah Montana, you

(41:09):
get the best of both worlds. I'm laughing, I'm laughing,
I'm giggling, I'm tickled. And then suddenly there's a tear
in my eye.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, like, what the hell happened?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
And suddenly I've learned a little bit more about what
it means to be human.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Uh huh, And I feel empowered to face.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
My day exactly, and I feel a little less alone
about what it's like to go through adolescents.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Can we talk about We had some big Xander moments
in this episode, which I thought would be fun to
chat about because obviously I get where he's coming from.
But it did piss me off and is a reason
that Xander sometimes irks me. But he does go on
a journey here that I'm not like, I'm not angry
with him. Buffy comes back, She survives Freaky Luke trying

(42:05):
to attack her because that mysterious guy gave her a necklace.
Thank god he did that. He really saved the day.
So Buffy is like, I have to go alone, like
I'm the Slayer. You guys are not the Slayer, Like
I don't want to put you in danger, YadA, YadA, YadA.
She's telling them the spiel, and then Xander is like,
oh so you don't think I'm a man? Oh so
you think I'm a puny little boy who like can't

(42:27):
take care of himself. And I understand where he's coming from.
This is also his first interaction with like, you know,
Slayer Scooby type stuff, but it it speaks to a
thing that I don't appreciate about Xander, which is he
respects the Slayer for what it is, but he doesn't, like,

(42:48):
you know, his masculinity like gets in the way, which
I think is like a good story to tell, but
it does make me angry to watch.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
So then he like puts himself in danger. He follows
Buffy down the crypt. Then they find Jesse and like
he is in danger the whole time and Buffy has
to like save his ass. And it's just like it
is not a thing I appreciate about a member of
my Scooby gang. But everyone's got their faults. Oh yeah,
talks to medculinity can be one of them, I swear.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Heh.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
Yeah, No, I like the story that is being told,
Like you said, yeah, Xander's a dumb teenage boy.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah, and we are all victims of the patriarchy.

Speaker 4 (43:23):
And Xander has been fed messaging all his life that
to have any value he needs to be a protector
and a provider. Yeah, so he feels like his worth
is being threatened. Is that a healthy and correct feeling
to have? No, but like, you know, his worth, he
feels like his worth is being threatened because yeah, this

(43:44):
is the one thing that like he's been told is
his role. And suddenly this girl comes along and does
it a thousand times better.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Than he could. Exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I don't take umbrage with him going in the sewers
because Jesse's his boy Exactly. He keeps saying, like Jesse's
my bud. I can't just stand by and do nothing.
And while I think he's a dumb ass for going
down there and he's not going to be any help,
I also can respect that that.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
It's like I too, like coming from a place of
I have to see my friend and like a moment
of bravery.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
I think that's good.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Yeah, it's like I can't just stand idly by when
my friend is in mortal danger and not help.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Yeah, so I like.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
I like him going to the sewery, even though he
actually is just making things worse for Buffy the entire exactly,
he at least had a noble reason for doing it.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, No, I agree.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
It's the it's the conversation they have in the library
where he's like, oh, so I'm less of a man.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You don't think I'm a real man, which I think,
God knows.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
I really need to like learn how to watch a
show and not like internalize that, not the internalize it
just because they're saying it doesn't mean they're like condoning
that behavior or like his his.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
Attitude, and I feel like Buffy is doing actively the opposite.
The reason that that happens is because they're trying to
show that that is an unhealthy outlooked at.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Exactly exactly, and I'm just not understanding that story they're
trying to tell me. I'm just getting angry anyway. But
there's this moment where they go find Jesse and Buffy
like vampire bowlings and like throws Jesse into a stack
of vampires and like they I'll throw back. But Buffy
can't close this door. She is like really struggling to

(45:27):
close a door, which if we from the two episodes
I've seen in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, is she can't
just close the door, she can fucking break a door.
And then she's like Xander, come help me, Come help me.
And then Xander helps her close the door, which I
think could be just a moment of friendship, but also
in my mind, I was like, she can close that door.
She's just trying to make him feel better. She's trying

(45:48):
to make him feel.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Like love this take, and I love this take, just
trying to give him some masculinity bag exactly, And I mean, hey, Buffy,
you're a good pal, You're a good path.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
How I defeed all these vampires and cradle this man's
fragile ego.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Close the door. Oh my god, She's fine, Like she
can I've seen her buzz through walls. No spoiler alert,
but she's fine. But yeah, I think she was just
trying to help her friends.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
Oh I that didn't cross my mind. But that's Cannon
to be absolutely because he's feeling emasculated. He's like, you
think I'm a pauty man. Yeah, yeah, which ultimately, like
this is this girl's job in life is not only
does she have to save everyone, yeah, but she also
has to look out for their emotional well being. I

(46:39):
like her constantly, and I mean I love Joyce summers
and I love Joyce Summers, but her also having to
constantly kind of I know, treat her mom with kid
gloves where it's like, you literally don't understand the world
is going to end. I cannot stay in my room
tonight exactly.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
There were so many Inch moments with the adult figures
in this episode, especially with Joyce. I mean the two
of the two I'm talking about not especially Joyce. In
the Principal Joyce and the Principal, where Joyce is like,
you're grounded, you can't go out, and she's like, okay,
but you don't understand, like the apocalypse is gonna happen,
but she can't understand because Buffy doesn't want to put
her in danger. And then the principal coming to her

(47:20):
and being like, okay, well you can't leave school and
she's like, no, you don't understand. The apocalypse is happening.
I have to save my friend and like her leaving
school anyway, the trials and tribulations of being a teenager,
plus the emotional wellbeings of your friend, friends and family,
plus like having to go to a fucking crypt in

(47:44):
the middle of the day to like find your friend
and like save the damn world. This woman is holding
so much on her shoulders and she takes her friend
who's feeling emasculated and like.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
The door.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
Yea, she is doing so much and I love her.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
And I do that.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
That is this episode's yeah high School is hell yeah moment.
Joyce has that moment where she says, I know, if
you don't go out, it'll be the end of the world.
Everything feels like the end of the world when you're sixteen,
which is obviously a funny joke, but also that is
how it feels when you're a teenager, where the adults

(48:22):
have all these rules, where you're like, no, you don't
understand what is going on with me and my personal
life and what's going on socially. And I know that
you think that I need to follow these rules to
keep order, but like my entire social structure is going
to come crumbling down if I don't do this thing.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Exactly. Yeah, I so agree. That line really stuck out
to me, and you're right, it's they play it for laughs,
but it's so true, like a it's so true to
the huge like the teenage experience. And I think it's
also the crux of the show where it's like everything
feels like the end of the world.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's the apocalypse every other week.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
And then it's also like you have this stuff going
on inside, like watching this episode by keeping like just
tell your mom.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Like, just tell your mom, Just tell your mom.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
But Buffy has her own reasons for not telling her mom,
namely what you said that she doesn't want to put
her mom in danger, and that's Also, there's so many
things going on when you're a kid where your parents
don't understand what you're going through because straight up, you
won't tell them, and so your parents you feel like
these authority figures are antagonizing you. But it's because they

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it's like they don't have the whole picture exactly. You
aren't being open with them and they are not being
open with you, and so instead you are both just
making things harder for each other constantly. Yeah, And you'd
think i'd have learned that lesson now, when i'd communicate
with people more.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
But Diva, I'm still a closed book.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
I'm still I'll enter a room angry as hell and
go with something wrong and I'll go, no, I'm fine.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Oh really, just.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Like with certain people, I just I just I'm a
very guarded person. It's a really unhealthy thing.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, I hear you.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Yeah, I'm trying to be better on it. It's something
I've been actively working on the last few years.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
I hear you. Here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
And once again this is not not to get too
personal with it, but this is a comparison that is
made in the show too. Yeah, where like Buffy is
very guarded with the authority figures because she has this
big secret about her identity that she cannot share with
them because she doesn't know how it's gonna come across. So,

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and I'm sure you relate to this too, growing up
with a big secret about your identity. My god, I
growing up. I couldn't. I felt like I couldn't be like, Okay,
so here's what's going on with me, because what was
going on with me was something big and scary that
was bad. I was gonna make everyone turn on me.
And it's just a hard habit to unwire.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
I totally hear that.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I totally do. What else are we talking about in
this episode? Let's see, I do you have to go
to the restroom? Oh, we can take Let's take a break.
Let's take a week. Let's take a break. We'll be
right back. Break after these messages.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
We saw that creepy guy once more.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Oh talking about Angel. Yeah, he didn't granted a name.
He's been granted a name, our Manny Angel Angel. There's
just like not much to talk about because he's been
given a scene an episode, which I do think is
the right move. That's not a complaint, but the whole
point of his character is this man is so handsome
and he's so mysterious.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
So true he does I'm getting both of those.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
He does have the most cliche moment at the end.
He has like, ah, she actually did it. That crazy
son of a bitch pulled it off. I didn't think
she had I didn't think she had it in her
I do wonder do you think do you think the
angel theories were going insane? Oh my god, like at

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the time, yeah, oh my god. This also is you know,
were people theorizing, like how much were people theorizing about Buffy?

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Oh my god, I'm sure tons. He's very handsome, very mysterious.

Speaker 4 (52:19):
Yeah, I have nothing else to say about him. He's
in the show. He's mysterious. What's his vibe? Shout out
any answer. He also, like fully knew about the sewer system.
I do have something to say about him. What the
hell is that? Why did he not tell her? He
last episode.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
You need to watch her step around him. Don't think
he's our.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Ally last episode gives her a crucifix and didn't think
to be like, Oh, and by the way, the vampire
layer is in the sewers. He just kept that to
himself so he could feel superior. Okay, Angel, Yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
The hell he's not a friend of ours?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I wonder why on earth he would ever keep that
from her. No, Angel is no friend of mine. I
he pisses me off, and maybe that'll change. But he
pisses me off. No, I think you're right to feel
that way.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
We'll see what he's up to next.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
We just don't know.

Speaker 4 (53:09):
You talking as if you haven't seen this entire show.
Like ten times girl, it's spoiler free.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
But we don't have to trick the audience into thinking
that we've never seen it. What do you want me
to say? I know when you don't see.

Speaker 4 (53:27):
That's what's my hope is that we'd rub their face
in every time a question pops up, I go and
I know the answer, and then we'd move on. What
else is there? What else do you want to talk about?
I think this episode is great. Yeah, it's the second
half of a movie.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
You know.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
Obviously Upside one and Episode two are are created to
be a double feature, so it doesn't have a ton
to unpack. Is just the resolution of what was said
up last week?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
There's a moment where Buffy takes one of the pool.
Oh yeah, she stabs someone off screen and then they
like are stabbed and then they fall back, and it
gave me the impression of that she didn't kill a vampire.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
She killed a person because and I know the dusting is.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
A little complicated because sometimes like Freaky Luke, he was
stabbed and then as soon as he.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
Fell to the ground, good boy, good boy Luke. I
won't call him that master, good boy Luke. No, canonically
that's his name. Sorry, his name is good boy Luke,
good boy Luke. It's not my place. I can't use
an honorific. They're not They're not my thing.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
He said. I'm not his daddy dom It's not my
place to call him that. No, seriously, that's freaky.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
That's for that's for good boy lou, that's for daddy
dub master, and that's for Boyar Darla.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Alying their thing.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
I'm not in their thing.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
I can't just do that anyway anyway. Think you think, yes.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I don't think she meant to, But I think she
killed an innocent and she certainly did not let it
slow her down.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
She kept going.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
The thing is she stabs and they fall back, and
then I feel like I hear them fall to the ground.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
And that's the thing that I think makes them not
a vampire to me, is you generally like sometimes dusting
happens right at insertion of steak, and sometimes it happens
like with Freaky Luke. He falls to the ground and
then dust like upon impact of the ground.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Yes, and this is something This is the debate of
our time, which is does dusting begin on does dusting
begin at conception or not?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Is it the second and that.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
The steake enters is that when dustin happens or is
it a few beats? I will say she stabs Luke
and has enough time to say it's in about nine
hours you moren before good boy Luke gets dusted. So
I do think it's a case by case. I do
love the idea that she just killed the civilian. We're
in their dynamic.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Don't call him that I am. I'm there.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Fourth, I'm there, fourth, I'm in next, I'm coming in after.
Now that good boy Luke has, you know, gone the
way of the Dodo. The Master is going to bring
me in. He's bigging me in.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
You've been promoted. You are now one of my elite.

Speaker 4 (56:38):
Employees who comes with quite a perk okay, no, but
there is evidence that sometimes it takes longer. But I
do love the idea that she killed someone, and I
stand by you that that's what happens.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Yeah, we don't see the dusting, so I will never know.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I don't even see who it was. It could have been.
It could have been surfer guy from the computer lab
could like, who is that?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
What's your deal?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Your murderer? He was talking shit.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
Willa was like, so here's all the research on the earthquake. Also,
surfer dude was talking mad shit. If something bad would
happened to him, I think he deserves it.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Yeah, I think it's justified self defense.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I believe that is so funny.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
And that's another that's another aspect of the show being
so silly. Is Buffy grabbing a pool que stabbing someone
off screen and it's staying and then.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
For like dodging it to go underneath, like that is stupid.
I love it.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
She also has speaking of Buffy as Elwood's a comparison
we made last week, she has a classic Chutney Wyndham
on the Stand moment where the way that she defeats
good boy Luke is not by stabbing him but trigging
him into thinking the sun is out behind a wind though,
and it causes him to freak out long enough for

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her to kill him, and then her being like, it's
literally eleven pm, you idiot.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
You have no sense of time. I love eve been
stuck in one room with that guy. You've been for
sixty years.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
He's just been a house boy this whole time.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
No, yeah, stay at home, warmhole yea, oh.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
Whoah, me and my friends play match whoa.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Just a few weeks ago, we were talking about Glee.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
Whoa, No, I'm sorry, and me and my friend a
good boy that is one of the jobs, that's his
Honoraic on the jobs.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
My god crying.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
We're being extra gross this episode. I literally am like,
my mom's gonna listen, I know, seriously. And it's also
it's such an early episode. I know we really are
if we said don't shift, we're generally not like this,
but maybe we are.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
Show knew us. We're letting it all hang out. When
we talk about Buffy the Vampire.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Slayer, dang, I'm sorry, no, genuinely, that was hilarious.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Now and now he's gone, yeah, and now he's gone
by Luke, see your actor again when he comes back
playing a different character.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Mm hmm, all that really tickled me. Okay, now now
that now that.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
We've established Luke's honorific oh, oh my Jesus Christ, stay
on our warmhold Luke. What is there anything else to say?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
That's crazy? Is there anything else to say about this episode?

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Willow being a hacker is like one, I'm not against it.
It's also like, of course she's a hacker. She's of
course she's the guy in chair exactly. It's the nineties,
we use one. Yeah, Buffy's are ass kicker. Giles is
our drama turg Willow is our hacker.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Is the drama queen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Yeah, the Xander is the comic relief, the bumbling Yeah,
he's the oaf. Which, genuinely, in these kinds of stories,
there always is the one that it's like and this
one's for the audience, and this wants to get a little,
a little chuckle out of the people out in those seats.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
There are so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Many awesome this isn't a this isn't a spoiler, but
there are so many awesome clips of Willow doing her
hacker thing that are like so silly, like a it's
just it's just like and then saying like like like
computer words that mean nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
It's awesome. I am obsessed.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I mean obviously, like computers are more prevalent now than
they were in nineteen ninety seven, but computers were still
extremely prevalent in nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Yeah, Cordelia Chase it not.

Speaker 4 (01:01:24):
Knowing what the delete delete button, and I say, hell yeah,
and good for her, for her, and I hope she
still doesn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
I hope she never learned it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
She I saw a meme the other day that was like,
a beautiful woman should never have to send an email.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Cordelia Chase took out the heart. She said, I'm a
beautiful woman. Yeah, that's her meme. That was her mean account.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
She made it on her phone. She's never touched a
computer since that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Class, exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
She was so traumatized by accidentally deleting her program.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Also, if Willow did that to me, her ass would
be grass.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I'd be so pissed. Oh yeah, I'd be so angry. No,
what line is this? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
I remember, Harmony Kendall. You will always be famous. You
are the Howard Bamboo of the Umpire Slayer. Hey God, totally.
There is so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Oh my god, to imagine Howard Bamboo and the things
that Harmony does in the show is so insane.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
I would say it's about a one for one. I'd
say it's about the same. It's about the same, but
just a low screen time, big impact in our personal fandom.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Harmony, Kendall, Howard Bamboo.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
That moment when Cordelia in Harmony can't figure out how
to do the program, and then Cordelia sees Willow going
hand on the computer, goes, what'd she do? And Mercedes
McNab's line reading of this. She looks over and Willow
is actively researching cataclysmic events and like deaths in the town.

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And then she turns back to Cordelia and so happy
go Lucky goes, she's doing something else.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
God love you girl. Well, I think that's the harvest?
Is that the harvest?

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Harvest?

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Hell yeah? Should we go to the worst part? Best part?
I do think it sounds better on the tongue than
I thought. It was a fear of the unknown. It
was a fear of the unknown.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
It's just we've done hundreds of episodes with the best part,
worst part.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
The worst part, best car, you go first.

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
What's your worst part? Okay, I did actually think about
it today.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
I mentioned last week that I think it's fun that
we don't care about the deaths, and I think that's
integral to the success of the show. However, I don't
like that Jesse's death is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
So glossed over.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
So yeah, totally exactly, Like, this is a close personal
friend that they assumingly have known, is that even a word,
who cares, who they have known for years, who is
one of Xander specifically's best friends, And all that happens
is Xander kicks a trash can and then we're moving on,
and then Willow she literally finds out that Jesse's been

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turned into a vampire, and obviously, you know she's trying
to comfort herself, but she says, oh, well, at least
you guys are Okay. I just like wish that that
moment had a little more gravitas because I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Hear you, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
It's also like Joss really wanted to make it a
big reveal that this like main character in the first
episode became a vampire and died, like, let me care
about him a little.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
More, and no spoilers.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Jesse is never mentioned again the rest of the show,
and I think it's a bit of a missed opportunity
that this could have been specifically for Xander, you know,
the beginning of the hero's journey for lack of a
better word, which I think it kind of is, but
to be so motivated in one of my best friends

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is gone because of this, and he kind of is
doing everything he does the rest of the show in
the memory of Jesse and because he couldn't save Jesse.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
I just it's always bugged me that he is introduced
as a lead character, as an integral part of their
friend group, and then he dies and within two minutes
we've moved on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Yeah, I totally get that. I totally get that, all right,
p Jesse thought.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
I do, however, have a fun fact that I'm just
gonna set up now and then it will pay off
years from now, which is there was supposed to be
a big time Jesse moment later in the show, but
Eric Balfour was busy and they couldn't get it set.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
See. I love that idea, and I do know that
they do do that a few times, and I think
that's something so special about the show is the commitment
to the cast, the background cast as well, like you know,
a like keeping these actors around and be like, I
want to care about these characters, So I think that
would have been really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
So where the hell were you? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
That's what's so crazy is the show is so good
about remembering and honoring characters, like you said, and characters
who have passed doing a good job at you know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Keeping their memory alive. Not our boy, Jesse.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Hey, Jesse, it feels like a party every day now
that you're dead because we don't care because we're moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
I don't care, and I think too not to say
that it would be funny, but Jesse is somehow kind
of he could have been like a founding member of
the Scoobies, And like what would that do to a
friend group like at its inception, to lose someone so quickly,

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Like I feel like I would like talk about him constantly, like, oh,
if Jesse was here, what would he be doing?

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
And maybe that would be funny. Maybe that would be
like you know, maybe like a heartwarming thing, but like
they totally could have done something with that if at
the very least have an opinion about.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
What's going on? You know. Yeah, yeah, so that's my
worst part. What's yours? I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I think my worst part is and I mean, this
is a show that was made in the nineties, so
we're going to get more of this, unfortunately, and I
mean it's barely I love this episode. So I mean,
there's not a ton of worst parts to me. I mean,
Buffy does call her some mentally challenged, which I don't appreciate,
but I mean, this is a show that was made
in the nineties. I know that people were saying things

(01:07:34):
like that, and especially teenagers like way more than is
socially acceptable now, and I appreciate that about now?

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Is that don't stay shit like that? Yeah, you know,
so that's probably my worst part. The arc of time
is long, but it bends towards justice. Is that what
that quote is?

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
I think you're right. Hell yeah, sorry, Martinleuther King Junior
quoted I do think you're right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, But yeah, i'd say that's my worst part. But
I really genuinely, really enjoy this episode, which your best part.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
Gentleman's tip of the hat to the slow mo shot
of Darlas and her vampire posse walking up to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
The bronh and she's like doing a little spin.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
I love that shot. But my actual best part is
the conversation with Joyce. The I just Joyce genuinely is
one of my favorite characters in the entire show, And
her and Buffy's relationship is so layered and so realistic,
and they both clearly love each other but do not

(01:08:36):
understand each other at all and are constantly butting heads
and they are both trying to protect the other one,
but because they will not be honest with each other,
it is just causing them to clash. And I just
think Joyce is, you know, she's a single mom. She's
trying her best in her eyes. She has a delinquent child,
her child literally burned down her school, and she is,

(01:08:59):
you know, giving her daughter so much grace, Like she
does not treat her like she is a menace. She
shows her love, she shows her respect, but she is like, hey,
you cut school today and you burned on your last school.
I'm reading all these parenting books. It's the second day
of school exactly, like I'm trying to do my job

(01:09:20):
as your parent. Like, I just love how much love
this show has for Joyce.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
I think she's a really great character, and I think
that relationship is a very special part of this show.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Yeah, what's your best part?

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
I think in kind of, I think similar to that,
I think this episode we really get like the first
taste of this girl isn't dressed the Slayer. She's also
a teen girl who's getting grounded, and like has the principal,
like you know, keeping close eye on her, and she
has the responsibility of like so many things, and how

(01:10:00):
Buffy navigates that and how she like, I just think
this girl has so much going on, and I just
I just love her so much. And the moment where
Xander is like, oh fuck, we didn't even like make
it in time and we can't even get in I
can't believe it, and she and Buffy going I didn't
know I was going to get grounded, like they didn't

(01:10:20):
make it in time, because Buffy has so many other
responsibilities in her life, and that's I think that speaks
to what it means to be a teenager in general,
Like you have so many things going on, and I
mean a human as well, and the balancing act you
have to do to be everything you are. And Buffy Summers,

(01:10:44):
I would do anything for you, queen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Oh yeah, now here's your kill count for this episode?
I get anyone we have at the beginning, Buffy dust
one of the vampires who's dragging Xander away.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Uh huh. Then of course we got our bouncer who
gets killed by Bye goodbye Luke.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Then, so god, Luke is dead, so you can never
say that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
I know, tragic, tragic, that could have been a long
going bet.

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Then we got the innocent civilian aka surfer dude, who
got stabbed by the pool queue. Then let me know
if you think this was a death. Buffy throws a
symbol out of vampire and we assumedly they get decapitated. Yeah, yes, yeah,
okay cool. Then of course we have our two kings,
good boy Luke and horny Jesse rip to real ones.

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That brings our kill count for the episode up to six.
Our overall kill count is at eight. That I like,
what what did I miss?

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
No? I don't think you missed anyone. There was a
bouncer and then another person was Luke killed. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Like a girl.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Okay, oh my gosh, you're so right. I literally know
who you're talking about. The blonde girl.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Yeah, I remember because Lucas like holding her armpit in
such a weird way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Freaked me out.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
I'm adding, Randall Blonde, I'm so sorry I've forgotten you.
Rest in peace, Diva. I remember because she like kind
of looked like Julie Ben's and I got confused for
a moment. It's not Julie Ben's. Julie Bens is dar
La Darla. So kill count up to seven overall up
to nine. And this is why I do think we
both need to have our eyes on the kill count

(01:12:32):
when we're watching. Yeah, because the second time I watched
this episode there were three that I had missed the first.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
I know, well, the when I watched this morning, I
was like, fuck, I'm losing tr ag.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Yeah no, I'm now I've now added it onto my
notes that I just start writing down at when someone dies,
I'm like, okay, at this person, at this person, yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Well it's gonna get harder too, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
I also was like, oh my god, if everyone in
the Bronze were to die, like I would probably have to,
like we start estimate the capacity for like a bar
of that size.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
We're doing all this research.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
It's a it's a bar on a Friday night. It
has two levels. It's a small town, so I can't
be that big.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
See, I'm just gonna throw on estimates.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
I'm gonna be like, there's probably like forty people there.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
I was gonna go, oh my god, I was gonna
google it. I was gonna google like, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
Well, thankfully they've throward at the harvest. You didn't have
to do that, and thank god. And that's the show.
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Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
We do bonus episodes. You can watch the videos of
us we're doing uh during our videos. We also, like
we usually take like twenty minutes to a half hour
before to like chat about our lives. This episode we
talked about some very personal stuff, so if you care
about that, you can tune in, which I love.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
I love to do that before. We call it the
Patreon pre Show.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
And yeah, you also can add free listen on our
Patreon as well, so hell yeah, it's super fun. We
also love to give our top tier, our best friends
of the podcast a little shout out. So here I
am from the past giving you a shout out. Okay,
I bet you're wondering, will Lena be singing? The answer

(01:14:52):
is no, Ian did such a good job. I can't
do a better job than he did last week. So
let's do it normally and then I'll find my own
way to do it in time. All right, I love
you patrons. Here is a big thank you to Olivia Morgs, Wish,
be Ida, Jack, Hannah, Carris, Elizabeth, Depressed, Bubbles, Eden, Donno Five, Nikki, Cowboy, Emoji,

(01:15:14):
Brianna JP, Tanya, Catherine, Shannon, Rachel Hayley, Drew, Christine, Kayleen Blake,
Rachel Allison, Emily, Meghan, Audrey, Meghan, Alexandra, Kylie, Dustin Asa, Jaden, Paul, Vicki, Keeley, Jasmine, Sophia, Willie, Danica, Slane, Diagonal, Toast,

(01:15:37):
Mary Kay, Asparagus, Squid one oh three, Reagan p p
Poo Poo, Josette Low, Madeline, Alani, Elise Blanton, Alice, Nadia, Fadia, Nicole, Caitlin, Abby,
Kristen Story, Eileen Mallory, Amantha, Rebecca, jk Ari Reiley, Marissa Taylor, Carolyn, Frankie,

(01:16:00):
Margaret Daspinat, Emily Ham, Phoebe are A, Eva Hayley, Emily Michelle,
Jacqueline Laslow, Ray, Emma, Sam Aubrey, Steph mump At, Baby Cat, Charlie, Kelsey, Thomas, Chucco, Britney, Kenzie, Michael, Katie, Elizabeth,
Freddy Allison, and stop. Love you all, Thank you all

(01:16:20):
for being patrons. Senny you love bye.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Wow, you killed that. That was really impressive. You should
be really proud of that. Thank you. Huh, thanks for
being here.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
Check out episode three, which tune in next Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
I hope, I hope you gleeks who are tuning in
are really enjoying the show, and you scoobies who are
finding us welcome. I hope you enjoy what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Usually we're not this freaky deekey, but I know we
really WOA.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
We were on something today.

Speaker 2 (01:16:49):
I'm sorry, see you next week. Keep slan is that
our sign off? I kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Keeps laying keeps lan here is a consisual forehead, kiss you,
accept it, love you by keeps playing.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
Follow us at Recovering Gleek Underscore podcast, Email us at
Recovering Gleek at giba dot com, Join our Patreon Patreon
dot com, slash Recovering Gleek, rate.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
And review us, and tell your friends please stay at home. Warmhole, Luke.
Do you want to bleep it out?

Speaker 5 (01:17:22):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
I want to keep it in. I think it's hilarkay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:25):
But you and I feed off each other so much
that I am afraid that I'm gonna get very just
like insular and forget that other people are listening, and
our old audience is listening, and we are just gonna
be doing stuff to make each other laugh. And then
suddenly the episodes will release and people will be like,

(01:17:45):
what the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
Fuck is going on? This is disgusting? God? Is it
that out of character? Hey? S, gay sex is beautiful.
You homophous.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
Being a stay at home wormhole is a noble life calling.

Speaker 1 (01:18:00):
If that's what works for your dynamics, I think that's
right exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Check yourself, yeah,
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