BtVS S1E4 Teacher's Pet

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm recording.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I'm also recording, but I have pressing matters, which is
finding out if Kiki Palmer is in the dcom jump
in and I don't think.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
O yay oh I love when this happens.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Okay, good wow, So everyone should want to jump in
a classic push it, push it chose.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
The other day, you know how much I love Corban
blues music. I was in a car with someone and
I was like, we should listen to Corbyn blue music.
And nobody liked it as much as me, and I
was like, you guys know it's great. You don't understand.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
And you opened the car door and you tucked enrolled.
You said, I'm gonna walk.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
I said, I actually have to go.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Recovering. Gleek presents.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
A clear Buffy podcast. I keep saying that that's that's
what my stem. I cannot stop saying you it's topical,
and I also text it to people.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's true. You actually texted to me the other day
it's topical because do you know in this episode is
releasing Pride first Wednesday of Baby, Give us some bread,
do some bread. I see a lot of juckstraps. You
know what I don't see is bread in my pockets.

(01:32):
My favorite Pride adjacent joke between us is when we
went to Halloween Horror Nights and we were and we
were at the night we were in the Perge House.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh my god, can we go back? We have so
much fun And there's.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Like it there's a part of the Purge House where
you're walking outside and she's like devastation everywhere, and there
was an overturned cop car and we kept going boom,
no cops at Purge.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
No cops because they were Also there was also people
like dressed as cops in like the their Purge mask.
Because I was like, you know, Copp Purge to be.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Like these scare actors doing trying to freak us out,
and we're going, no cops at Purge.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh, it was awesome. God, we had so much fun.
I remember there was a moment because you have to
like walk for like twenty minutes. It's like a walkthroom.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, and Ian and I.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Looked at each other and we went, we're probably annoying
those shit out of everything.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Especially yeah, especially like the poor civilians behind us in
the walkthrough who had to deal with her bullshit for
twenty minutes.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I just can't help it. I love to laugh.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh, I love to hear ha ha, we love to
kafa put arrest us.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Arrest us.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
If being silly is a crime, arrest me, baby.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
But it's also like it's the purge. I can be
as still is I want exactly. There's no rules. I
can kill someone. I can also be a silly goose.
It's urge, let us be. Have you ever seen those movies?
I have not.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I haven't either.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I actually don't think. I don't think I cared to either.
Lena Heaty is in the first one, and hell yeah,
I'm not gonna say it. I know I think I would.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Like probably like them, but like if we did, like a.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
If we go over to Tiffany Allen's house exactly. And
that's the thing is I watch them by myself.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
There are a select few horror movies that I want
to watch on my own. And it's not I mean,
like sometimes it is, but it's not necessarily like I'll
get too scared. It's more like the joy of watching
a horror movie is being a silly goose. What you
watch the horror movie, And.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
The joy of watching a horror movie is watching Ian
laugh at the conjuring two when the ladies on the
top of the wardrobe, because that part is like, like
genuinely a scary part. And he's like, no, that's silly, dude.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Let's She's like, Mama, she said, I'm gonna give.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
You laugh so much. Yeah, I remember, I like about
watching scary movies.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I watched a Barbarian with my sister when you get
the mother reveal.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh yeah, I love her.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I like, I know you laugh. I was crying.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I love laughing, so I know I love her.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh my gosh, mother literally her name mother. I wish
that's how they said it through that whole movie seriously.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Or when we watched the thing together. I don't think
I've laughed that hard in my life. It's so awesome.
The other day they I don't like that movie, and
I was like, okay, so you don't like to laugh
and have fun, seriously.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's the other thing is like I'm not necessarily laughing
at these movies because they're bad. Sometimes I am thing
is not a bad movie at all.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
No, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I just like my number one reaction to uncomfortable situations
is laughter, both in like sadness, which is really tone
deaf and bad, but also in moments that are scary,
my body is like, let's start laughing about this. Yeah,
Sometimes genuinely it's a scary movie and I'm hying in
the corner. I can't help it.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, I'm a similar way, especially like after I get
really scared. I mean, I'm like generally a pretty frightable person.
Like I feel like I it's easy to jump scare me. Thanks,
I think I made it up. I'm like pretty easy
to jump scare. I am genuinely afraid of a lot
of things, but I like the feeling that comes after

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that is the giggliness of like, oh my gosh, I'm safe,
Like that's just a movie. So I feel like I'm
also laughing a lot, especially in scary movies, which is
something I like about seeing with other people is seeing
someone scream and then giggle, and then screaming and giggling yes,
and then seeing just Ian giggle.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Hey, Hey, you want to introduce this baby?

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yes, Hello, welcome. My name is Lena Canatzer, I'm Ian
Alred and welcome to say a Queer Buffy podcast and
Happy first month asked for the evening Oh my gosh,
yeah what a time, happy Pride.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It's finally okay to be gay.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I've been waiting for this moment the.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Other level eleven months of the year. Keep that shit
to yourself. I don't want to know. Frankly, I don't
want to know, and I'm happier if I don't this
month begrudgingly, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's fine in June's so kind.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I love Pride Month mostly because I love saying that
everything I don't like is homophobia. Yes, I remember. I
was in a production of Sound of Music during the
month of June one year, and in the men's dressing room,
like four of us were gay and the rest were straight,
And any time that a straight man wanted to do anything,

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it would be like during Pride month. And one of them,
the guy put katavon trap, big fan of his. He
would really go along with it, where he would like
ask her permission to even speak, be like, I don't
want to step on your toes during Pride month? Can
I make a comment?

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I love that. I remember. He also like gave you
guys like a treat, right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
He gave us. He gave it. He paid us an
offering because it was pride.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well of course, Hello.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Tim, You're never gonna hear this, but you're a real one.
I'm a big fan of yours. Also, one month Pride Month,
and I stand by that this was This was hilarious
in my roommates are stupid, I said on June first,
the roommate, the headroommate, whose name is on the lease,
was like, hey, if everyone could send me their rent today,
and I said, actually, because it's Pride month, I'm not

(08:12):
going to be paying rent this month. And not no
reaction from anyone in the chat at all. It was
as if I hadn't spoken. And that is how you
know homophobia is still alive.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
And well, that is so terrible, right If being a
little silly clown is a crime, God forbid, I'd be
a silly goose.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Throw my ass in jail. Literally, Holy cow.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
God forbid, I'd be a silly little goose.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
For real.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Nobody has fun anymore.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
This used to be the most exciting city.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
In the world, the world smoking an open window.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I think that's like the third time we have quoted
that on this podcast.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Justice.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
We're going to talk about Buffy.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
It's episode four. I think our numbers are good. If
they were gonna pass.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes, I think I think we should do it once
for episode.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I think we should.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
I wouldn't everyone stop smoking? When did everyone pair off?
Whatever happened to fun?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Did I tell you? I went to a gey bar
the other day?

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Uh huh?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I took my first puff of a cigarette.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Girl, I know, I know, but I.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Said, I said, this wasn't for me, Thank you very much, and.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Good for you, and good for you. I'm like, I'm
not here to yuck anyones yem of course. And if
you're a smoker and that works for you, culckl cool.
I am like, there are a lot of health risks,
so the trunk.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Cigarettes do not count. Okay, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
I'm like, as long as we are well informed when
we're making the choice, and like cool, make the choice.
I just don't I want to be peer pressuring people
into doing something that has taken so many lives.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Taken so many lives, now I understand. So we were
like at a club and in like we were in
the courtyard and then someone like pasted it and I
went audio medium, I like took it from someone was
so beside myself also a kind of drunk, and I
went am I gonna do this? Oh my god, I'm
doing this And I passed it and I went, oh

(10:25):
my god, I'm never doing that again. But I've lived
nearly twenty nine years on this earth, never had and
I don't think I ever will again.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Shut out.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's just weaight. Well, every member of my family is
a smoker, so I'm surprised it happened when it But yuck,
not for me.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
You'll try anything once.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh yeah, God forbid. I'm a I'm an open minded
girlh god Ford.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
I trying new things. God forbid. I'm trying to.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Softer connect with my community.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I'm trying to soak every last second out of this
crazy thing we call life. God forbid that God gave
me this beautiful earth, and I want to see every
inch of it.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I want to try anything. What's that song? I don't know?

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Even though I fail h time. Thing so so insane.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Sorry, we will talk about Buffy episodefore. I promise. I
love my sister Aaron so much. She's the coolest girl
of the world, genuinely. One of my favorite things about
her is sometimes she gets really inspired by like the
weirdest thing in the world. I remember when she saw

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the Lily James Cinderella movie, she like wrote a dissertation
about how it changed he that so Zutopia came out,
Lord drop for any newbies to this podcast when I
was Orman missionary EO. Anyways, so that's when Zutopia came

(12:05):
out and Aaron, who was so touched and moved by
the lyrics to Try Everything by Shakira, featured in the
hit animated films Utopia that she wrote me in my
birthday card. She wrote me, like, so this movie called
Utopia came out and there's this song and I really

(12:28):
love it and it really means a lot to me,
and she's trying to like put into words what it
means to her, and then she's like, you know what,
I'm just gonna write you the lyrics and.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Then the rest of the card is, Aaron, You're everything
to me.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
In every chorus to Try.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
So awesome. You have it still, I'm sure I do.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I have all of my letters from my mentioning there
at my parents house.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
I love. That's awesome. Next time you go.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Home, I'll remind you did Should we talk about buffet?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Should talk about Buffy Season one, episode four, Teacher's Pet.
I wanta be teacher's pet. Teacher's pets.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Oh that's from Reefer Madness.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
No, girl, that Storre's day.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Oh it totally sounds like reefer Madness.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I mean because reefer Madness is like a pestiche off
of that era of music. Of course.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, well I was wrong, Sealey. Do you want to
hear some slacks?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I would love to hear some slacks.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Oh, yeah, it's time not a ton of slacks. As
I'm learning, the Buffy Versus wiki is not as not
as intense as the Glee wiki. So we're just gonna
have to adjust our expectations, mostly me. So let me
tell you a little bit about this episode. This episode
is called Teacher's Pet. It's the fourth episode of the

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first season, so one episode of four, and the fourth
episode of Verall. It was written by David Greenwald and
directed by Bruce Seth Green. No relation is.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
David Greenwald is the one that went on to make Lost.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Let's check her out, co creator of Angel.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh that's why I know that name was because he
is Angel. He's yeah. He is not Lost, He's Angel.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah. This episode originally broadcasted on March twenty fifth, nineteen
ninety seven on the WV network. I almost said network,
which is a thing that we always said cartoon network
growing up, because I don't think I knew what network was,
so it was network now every once in a while
it slips out. So the puppet that they use for

(14:37):
the she Mantis is a real form reuse of the
n graph prop from Babylon five, the television series, and
it was created by Optic Nerve Studios. So this is
like just fully a redo of a puppet that already exists,
but honestly it's really beautiful, great job.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And that's the studio that does that does all the
monster costumes for Buffy, So we have this in house.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, they're like, oh, perfect, I found this mantis costume.
It's it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Not to derail the slacks, but I do wonder it's
like a chicken in the egg situation. Was it like
David Greenwalls or totally yeah? Was it like David greenwat
was like what the teacher was a praying mantis? And
they said, oh, we have just a thing or was
it here's the monster costumes we have on file and
they're like us, Oh, let's use that puppet. We'll build
an episode around it.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, well, I mean the puppet is it looks exactly
like how it looked in Buffy. Like, I don't think
they did anything extra. I think they probably.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I think they probably wrote the episode around the puppet.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
I think so they were like, this puppet is so
awesome while they were like probably perusing all the monsters
stuff they have. It's a beautiful puppet, God knows. I
love a practical puppet. And it's really I think, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
That's why you love the Muppets so much.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, I'm I've been trying to get Lena to like
the Muppets for years.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Oh, I like the Muppets, girl, since when.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Oh. I don't know the Muppets, but I like that
their movies shut Up, Muppet Treasure Island, Muppet Christmas Carol,
the Muppet movie starring Jason Segal.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
That's just called the Muppets, babe.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
But oh, okay, the Muppets, Muppets, Muppets fuck, Muppets, Steak
Manhattan Ding, Muppets fuck. Listen, there's no girls in the Puppets.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
There's famously at least three.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Miss Andrews was a child. If it wasn't revolving a woman.
I didn't care Muppets. Fuck, I don't know. I've already
named the ones I've seen.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
I mean, you conflated. There is the Muppet movie, the
one with Jason Siegal is the Muppets. Okay, so the
Muppet movie and the Muppet like kind of name of
themb Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Then I did, there's five.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
There's five.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. And I
told you I wasn't in Muppet house. It was a
kimpossible house.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
And some of us were both. And well, the.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Thing was, I've said this before, I haven't said it
on this podcast proper, but if when I was a kid,
if the show wasn't revolving a girl, I like wasn't interested.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Miss Piggy was not the diva of all divas for
you to disrespect her like this.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Na, Miss Piggy is there, but she is not the
main girl. Well she's the saying girl, but she's not
the main girl.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, Like it's it's about Kermit. Now, I understand what
you're saying.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Exactly, and I'd like Kermit. Everything I've seen of the
Muppets I have enjoyed, But to get five year old
Lena to watch a show I hated boys.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Just saying the Muppets are fun. Gonzo, I'm not kidding,
queer Icon.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Queer Icon, and I've seen the pictures. I've seen the
pictures of Gonzone address and I love that and every
sesame shriek thing that uh Andrew Garfield has ever done,
I love just the last year, I don't know, you know,
I just I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the muppet community.
I'm sorry to you Ian really letting down my friends.

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You are I have on the patron the patreon we
have talked about MOBI Christmas Carol and I famously loved it.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Hell yeah, myupet Chasure Island keeps getting suggested and I
am voting for it on the voter for every time
I've vote our creator account, I'm like and yes, and
I let you and I like.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
You well after we did I every so for a
long time, I tried so hard for to get us
to watch Josie and the Pussycat's my favorite movie, and
so I voted for that every month. And so now
I'll let you do what you want to do. I've
I've you know, I want to try everything, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Even though you could fail. All right, I'm sorry to
take us on them up the tangent.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
No, that's okay, I'm happy to do it. Okay, Babylon
five never seen the show. I have to find out
where this woman is from. Okay, I thought.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
So South Africa? Yes, oh yeah, I was like.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Her accent is vaguely elon Muski.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Oh I'm sorry, I'll.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Say, wait ELSEO channel to change it vaguely Charlie Starani.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
And to that, I say, hell, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Her name is Mussetta Vander, who portrays the Shemantis, described
the use of insects in the episode when I eat
that bug sandwich, they really had actual real bugs, like
crickets or something that they use for fishing. I believe
they were kept in a little box and they were
sprinkled onto the bread. I remember having a really hard
time was trying to do that because I did not
want to feel those little things. They said, well, they're

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gonna to be bait for fish anyway, to make her
feel better, but I did not want to hurt an animal.
They didn't die, they were fine. They were just sprinkled
on bread, and when I went to eat they weren't there.
So thank God, thank god, thanks for letting us know
that she didn't eat the bugs. I was scared. I
was scared. Okay, let me tell you what's on at

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the Bronze tonight.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Who was playing?

Speaker 1 (20:28):
So this band is called super Fine. They performed the
songs Already Met You and Stone or Love. Super Fine
is They are a band from southern California. The band's
cult favorite single was originally released by Fish Death Records
in nineteen ninety six. They released an album in like
two thousand and three, and the band went quiet, and

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then they ended up releasing an EP in twenty twenty one,
and then they re released the songs they performed on
Buffy because those were their most famous songs. Honestly, the
lead singer of the band, he has like a big
acting moment in this episode, and I was like, honestly,
good for you.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Kane was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
He made me laugh. It made me laugh. He did
a good job. Shout out to you, super Fine. All right,
and those are your slacks?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Woo, thank you for those slacks.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
You're welcome.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
All right. I'm gonna give you a silly little recap
about what happened in this episode. Here we go. Here's
what you mean. Oh, previously, I'm Buffy the Vampires there.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, you forgot the word show you're watching?

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I know, my gosh, Sunnydale High gets a hot new
biology teacher and all the boys are gaga. Little do
they know she's actually a giant pragmantis who wants to
mate with them and eat their heads. Xander, jealous of
Buffy's flirtation with mystery man Angel, falls into the she
mantis's trap going over to our house after school, and
it's Buffy, Giles and Willow to the rescue. Meanwhile, Angel

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continues to be hot, mysterious, and brooding, giving Buffy hints
about different vampires in town.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Hot, mysterious and brooding. And that's the fairy interactions. Oh,
thank you, you're welcome.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Continue.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Sorry, their interactions were really making me laugh. She is
like actively making fun of him to his face, and
he's like, you don't. You can't let him corner you.
They'll get you. And she's like, you're annoying.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Hear me out. There is that moment at the end
when he gives her they're talking. Oh, gall you'd think
I would remember I just rewatched the but it's at
the very end, when he's like, I heard there's one
less vampire ruaming the streets, and she's like, you heard correct,
And I think what it is? This is what it is.

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She offers to give him his jacket back, and he
says it looks better on you, and then shout out
to David booranis about fifteen different emotions play across his face.
He is like he's like thinking about how hot she is.
He also is like heartbroken, He's also scared. He also
like has an animalistic urge. Watching it, I was like,

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unfortunately that would work on.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
He's eating Yeah, no, no, And that's how I feel too.
And of course we're gonna learn more about Angel. We
don't know much about him, but oh my god, no,
I'm obsessed with him. And when Buffy is like, oh
fuck that one. I love that part so much.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
It's like so tortured and confusing. Well, a man of
multitudes in there.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
No, seriously in the wife pleaser with his battle scars.
Oh my god, he is very sexy. He is very
It would work on me too, and he is it
would work on me.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I will watching the other day, I was watching the
EW twentieth anniversary of Buffy from like twenty seventeen. Yes,
and David Pooriannis is talking and he goes, yeah, Angel
was just very brooding in the beginning, and Sarah Michelle
goes in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
I remember that in the beginning. No, he keeps going,
and honestly, his brooding and I won't tell you I
was gonna say, his brooding over time gets a little
more greeting.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's sexy now, I mean, is that a spoiler? It wears,
then I just keep.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
It wears then yeah, it's just like it is very mysterious.
Right now. We don't know who this man is. We
don't know why he has so much information and he's
giving it to Buffy. We don't know why, we don't
know his story. He's like, oh my god, he's sexy.
I'm sorry. I love that moment so much too, where
she is like she bullies the ship out of this man.

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She is like, you are so weird. And then he's
like later and she's like, shit, no, I love him.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Awesome, giveing humiliation, gig.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
There's like and I thought we put this behind us.
I thought we were trying to cuit.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
But what is expected when someone wins someone that like
there's a mutual attraction and someone's like so sassy, it
makes fun of you. It's it's a banter thing. It's
like you're gonna know it is each other. But she
will just make fun of him to his face, and
then he'll just be like, well anyway, it's you round.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yeah, and then it's like you think I'm so annoying. Sactually, yeah,
he's okay. I understand he likes it.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
He likes he likes it, and it's not like he
just stands there and takes it and then mysteriously says.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Something like you can take it.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Ah, yeah, Buffy job. Yeah, I do have to forget
that she is canonically no. Fifteen sixteen years old.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, and it's so interesting, like to look at the
Buffy Angel relationship in this versus the zan under Miss Day,
miss French man French, Oh my.

Speaker 2 (26:05):
God, I although not actually miss French, fake French.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Not actually big French French she Mantis Xander and the
she Mantis. It's it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yes, you make a great point. We can't talk a
lot about Angel because we don't know a lot about Angel,
but clearly David Briennis is an adult man.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yes, that's an adult. He's not going to Sunnydale.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, he's not hurt. It doesn't go to school with him,
And you're so right the Shemantis and Xander, this whole
episode is clearly portrayed as like, this is an adult woman,
this is bad teenagers. And then with Angel, it's like,
but he's so brooding. Isn't it kind of hot? Don't

(26:50):
you kind of want it to happen?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Hey, it's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
When I sat down to watch it, I was like,
I'm really not going to enjoy this, but I ended
up enjoying it more than I thought I would, and
I liked kind of what it had to say about,
especially like I feel like young men sometimes I don't
want to say this, do you know what I want

(27:16):
to say?

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I'm going to say what I think you want to say,
and then you can correct me if I'm wrong. Okay,
young men specifically, just like men in society, the view
of men in sex is like, if you're having sex,
you're winning, and if you're having sex, it's cool, and
so the the mentality is like, oh, younger man sleeps

(27:42):
with older women like score, that's so cool. Hell yeah, bro,
whereas younger women sleeps with older man rightfully, It's like,
so this is maybe suspicious, and if the woman is
a minor, this is not maybe suspicious. It is an
elite it is. Yeah, but like a teen boy sleeping
with an older woman. There are people who straight up

(28:02):
would be like, oh, hell yeah, is such an alpha
male exactly? And yeah, this episode I think does a
very good job of showing like Xander's a product of society.
He does think that it would be so cool and
awesome if this older woman was into him, and then
when push comes to shove, clearly he is not super

(28:25):
comfortable with it and is like a little freaked out
and doesn't know what to do. But also, one, she's
the one with the power in the situation, and then
two he has been telling himself how cool and exciting
this would be, so he's not going to back out now.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah, this is exactly what I wanted to say.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Oh hell yeah, And I liked what it.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Had to I think, you know, Xander for the last
couple of episodes has been so in his own head
about masculinity and about what it means to be a
real man, and like, how you know this is the
to be the thing that makes him the most masculine
is like getting with the teacher when in all actuality,

(29:06):
he is in a really bad position and he is
really vulnerable and this this monster is trying to hurt him,
you know, under the guise of giving him something that
he wants. Like it's really so I liked what it
had to say about that, and I think, yeah, I
didn't anticipate that I would like enjoy this episode, and

(29:29):
especially like a Xander centric episode is not something that's
gonna be my cup of tea. But I kind of
liked it. And I like the conversations that, you know
Buffy when she comes up to Xander and she's like, Dude,
I really I don't think this is a good idea,
Like you should not you should not go to Miss
French's house. And he's like, oh, so you're just jealous.
You're jealous that I can like get a hot chick.

(29:52):
And she's like, oh my god, what are you talking about. No,
she's literally a bug. And he's like, okay, so you're jealous.
Like he can't even he's in such a tough place
that he's not hearing his friends, he's not hearing his
loved ones, telling him this is a bad idea, So
I just appreciate what it had to say about that,
you know.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, I think I liked this episode more than you did.
I thought it was great.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, no, I liked. I just didn't anticipate I would
like it at all. I did like it more than
I thought good.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Really, I remember not thinking much of season one of Buffy,
and it is my favorite stuff in Buffy is yet
to come. But season one has such a B movie
charm to it. Yeah, that I really did not appreciate
as a kid, and watching it now, and especially knowing

(30:40):
that the show in its original inception was supposed to
be kind of a love letter to B movies, I
think it. I'm like these episodes before that I thought
were kind of a snooze or we're kind of corny.
I now am enjoying so much and I realized the
intentional campiness of them and how fun that is, and

(31:01):
I think it's cool. I think this is something that
Buffy does well, which is this episode is talking about
a really touchy subject that it is hard to talk
about but also is something that kids should be aware of.
But it's like, hey, if an adult like wants to
be romantic with you, that's actually not cool, and that

(31:22):
adult is a monster monster and then the show, whereas
we could have had like a very serious after school
special episode that would be not really the vibe and
spirit of the show. Instead it's like, no, she's a
literal monster, she's a giant insect. And we're getting that
same message across and we're teaching kids the same lesson.
But it's also like fun can't be silly, and it's

(31:46):
a fun role reversal of the horror movie trope of
Damsel in distress gets captured by horny monster, only usually
it's like the creature of the Black Lagoon and he's
capturing some girl on a KINI, but now the girl
in the bikini is Xander and the creature is a lady.
I like think that's a fun role reversal as well.

(32:06):
I thought this episode was un I love that.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
No, I'm good, I'm glad. I'm glad. Yeah, you're so right.
Like they took a really serious, important topic and they
made it digestible, and they made it like it never
gets too scary. You don't see any anything bad happening.
So I think they do a really good job. I
think It's also an important conversation about, like, you know,

(32:34):
Xander's view on his own masculinity and how that's you know,
kind of clouding him to the danger that he's in.
I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Yeah, I will see how I feel about Xander as
the show progressed.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Of course, so far I like him, and so far
I feel like his flaws are intentional critiques of teenage boys.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Right, I'm seeing that too.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, you know, he's having these fantasies where Buffy is
a damsel in distress and he saves the day and
she falls in love with him, and then he does
a cool guitar solo. But in reality he's the damsel
in distress and Buffy comes and saves him. Like, yes,
he has this view of reality, but it's not what

(33:22):
reality actually is. She is actually the one who is capable,
and he's just like a stupid teenage boy.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, totally totally, And I think like, in my like
thinking back on Buffy, I'm not remembering that his flaws
are intentional. I'm just like he is so she has
with a thone masculinity and then I'm not understanding that
these are intentional. These are like there on purpose and

(33:52):
everyone like chill out, yeah myself, and it is.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Tricky because he's famously self insert character. Yeah, and he's
a self insert character for a man who has a
checkered past with his treatment of women in real life. Yes,
and so that makes it really like, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Icy, and I'm still remembering things that happened later in
the show that also color my opinion of Xander. So
I mean, but honestly, right now, I totally get what
you're saying, and I am enjoying what's going on.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Yeah, And I just I think him in this episode,
I think he's really fun. I think it's a very
honest betrayal of teen a teen boy. Teenagers famously are
hormonal and very horny.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
And like lying about having sex seven times a week exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Teenagers are also because they're so hormonal, getting credibly jealous.
So him being like so pissed off over the Angel
Buffy thing is immature, but guess what, he's fifteen. Of
course he's immature. He is biologically not mature yet.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I honestly, and he was making me laugh when when
like Angel gives Buffy his jacket and he's like, oh, yeah, perfect,
give her, your jacket, your freaking jerk.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
I also loved the moment this is like genuinely really
tender to me, when he's talking to Blaine at the
Bronze and Blaine Blaine is, you know, the like stud quarterback,
and Blaine is making fun of Xander because like, Xander
clearly can't pull any chicks. And then Xander walks away
and sees Buffy and Willow and puts his arms around

(35:32):
their waist, and Buffy's like, what are you doing? And
he goes, well, Blaine was making fun of me because
I can't pull any girls, so essentially like I'm trying
to trick him into thinking I can. And Willa's immediate
response is, yeah, we'll show it show like puts her
arm around him.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
I thought that was so cute.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I love that moment.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Really sweet Willow moments with Xander this episode, like she
I respect a girl who yearns I do. I do.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
That's also one of the reasons I'd like Xander. And
once again, I haven't seen this show in a long time,
and so like, I don't want to put my foot
in my mouth in over a year from now, be
like a compleewis. I liked Vander, but.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
You are more than you can change your opinion at
any time.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
But his relationship with Willow has always been really special
to me. Obviously, their relationships with Buffy are the focal
point of the show. She is our lead character, but
ultimately they have known each other for ten plus years
before Buffy ever entered the picture, and they're through highs
and lows. They're loyalty to each other, They're want to

(36:40):
see the other one be happy. Like Willow even though
she has a huge crush on Xander and I'm sure
it probably is hurtful to her that he's flirting with
her to you know, make someone else think he's cool,
she still immediately is like, well, this is going to
help him and he's being picked on right now, so
I'm gonna do And there are many times in the

(37:02):
show where Xander does similar stuff for Willow, and I
just like the two of them together is so integral
to me about what makes this special.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I get that, I totally do. Also lots of cute
Willow Buffy moments, Like there's a few moments where they
are like sitting and standing like arm to arm, really close,
like silently communicating with each other, which that's girl ahead
to me. I love that very much. I love the
way they talk when they're like getting lunch and Xander

(37:33):
is like, you guys just don't get it, Like I'm
so masculine, I'm so awesome, and I'm like getting with
a teacher and they're like, damn, like he is too
Like they're making fun of him, but they're also doing
it in a loving way. They're like, he is too
stupid to understand that. Why would an older woman want
to go for a man his age? Like that's a
boy his age. Excuse me, he's a boy, you know.

(37:54):
And so I love those quippie moments and like all
the sister best friend things that are happening with Buffy
on this episode.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Heck yeah, I agree, Hey, heck yeah, heck yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
All right, should we talk about miss French?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I was about to say the same thing. Let's talk
about Shemantish name. I know I love the Shemantis. Obviously
she's a pedophile, we're aware, of course. Yes, I love
a campy b movie monster. The way that she turns
her head all the way around and it is so

(38:30):
crazy poorly done makes me.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
I love.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I'm glad the way that Buffy fight. When she's in
a premantis form that Buffy fights her off with bugs pray, She's.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Like two cans right in her eyes. It's awesome.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Oh, it's so silly. I think she's a diva. She's
obviously a terrible, a terrible person, but she's a diva.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
She's a diva, and she's very beautiful. I love her
little makeup. It's like yellow and like a smoky eye.
I was like, okay, I'm seeing and she also her
uh neil polish too is like light green. It's very cute.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
I know she's really saying, in case you didn't know
him a primantis, I got greens, kind of got yellow eyes.
I'll show you. I'll show you.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I have.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
A question, a confession. I don't know. Okay, this is
so stupid because this show is literally pretend. And also,
these monsters are monsters. They're evil.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
M hmmm.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Sometimes I'm aware of they're monsters and I'm aware they
do bad things. Sometimes when I hear about these demons
and monsters that have been alive for millennia, Yeah, and
then Buffy just unceremoniously kills them, I'm like, oh, that's
kind of sad. Like that that was a protected species

(39:53):
and now they're gone. She just killed the last dodovert.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
And this is this is a good question. She has eggs. Yeah,
I don't know that she is the titular one.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
That's true. I like was assuming that the she mantis
Carlisle Giles's friend was hunting was the same one. But
you're right, it could be like her great granddaughter. It
could And if that's the case, then she can go
to hell. She's grooming students.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I understand what you're saying. She's like in danger. She's one,
she's one.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Of one, she's one of one, and that she's number one,
and that I'm like.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
I don't even waste her time trying to compete with her.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I know she's about a bad creature, but like, could
we put her in a cage just for just for prosperity.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
That belongs in a museum?

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
No, seriously, No, I understand what you're saying. I assume
that because she is so obsessed with like carrying on
and like making as many eggs as possible, that this
is a this is a like a like a race
of monsters.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
I think you're correct. I think you're correct.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
She's just one of them.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, she's just the South African one. That's another question.
Why is she South African? I know the real reason
is because.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
The actress is from South Africa.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
She mantas. She got on a boat and she went
all the way.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
To She's a California mantas. She's the California Mantis. I
think this is just coincidental.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
I think why she's South African.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Ask someone why they're South African.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
I know that it's because the actor is South African.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Okay, sorry, I'm not understanding you.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I'm trying to do a fun thought experiment, Okay, okay,
which is this is a California Mantis from California and
personating we meet the real Natalie French, an American woman.
So why did she decide to put on an accent?
Do you think it was? Here's what I think this
this she mantis. Her mission in life, you know, her

(42:01):
modus uparandi or whatever that Latin term is, is that
she's got to mate and she's got to repopulate the world.
And that's, you know, the reason that she exists. But
her passion, her drive, her ambition is she just wants
to perform. She wants to be a storyteller. And so
whereas like other she mantises are just in the woods

(42:22):
biting off teenage boys heads as we hear she is like, no,
I'm going to craft a character. She's like, I'm gonna
build a whole new persona. She's going to have a backstory,
and as many over eager actors do when they create
new characters.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
She's gonna accent.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
Exactly, she's gonna have an accent.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
She just saw the Monster starring exactly did that movie
come out around this time?

Speaker 2 (42:46):
And it had not come out yet, but sorry, but
she said she saw the news story about Eileen Warno's
and she said, one day they're gonna make a film
about her and it's gonna win a bunch of awards.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Hm hm, honestly, kind of apped. I actually don't know.
I've never seen this movie or I know I'm a girl,
but I know that she like wants to kill all
the bulls.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Eileen Morenos was was killing men, So maybe that is why.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Maybe hey, hey, I don't know, I never saw a shop,
but that is for letting me know you were going
on a thought experiment. Sometimes I don't understand what thought.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Experiment, I promised God from it. I misunderstand a cube.
I just like to take things that clearly yes and
just like we're.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Not to I just didn't understand and then try.

Speaker 2 (43:45):
And figure out what was the justification for this. I
think it's fun.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
No, I like it too, I just didn't get it.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
I think that she man to streams of a life
on stage.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
No, she does, honestly, and she's got a beautiful favor
face for the.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Stage exactly, which that's another question. Was she wearing a bodysuit?

Speaker 1 (44:02):
What do you think body suit but bodysuit? That's like
a question. Okay, I'm on my way.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
So three episode.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Yes, they're reproducing with the titular she mantis plus a
human man. I'm assuming that these eggs then have human
and mantis trades. Maybe yes, so they get to like
go back and forth. That's like a part of it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Okay, cool, cool, cool.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So maybe that is a form of hers.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, no, I choose wasn't. I get what you're saying, because.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
If they if they are part human, I have reason
to believe.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
But it's not like a It's not like I don't
think it's a suit. I look halfway like my dad
is like halfway like my mom. It's like I can
look one hundred percent like my mom or one hundred
percent of dad. I get to choose. I get to
choose the two genders. I love them, the two genders,
seeming and premantis.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Mm hmm and ah. That is a good question though,
because there's post to you know, they're supposed to be
very hot, right and they they excrete the pheromones, which
makes me what if it was just like a regular,

(45:24):
a regular person, do they not get to graduate to
Shimanta's status.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
What do you mean like if they have a premantus
baby and it's ugly, Yeah, they're like, I'm so sorry, sorry,
Actually you had to be like a grocery store clerk
or something. You can't. We can't have you out there
trying to mate with people.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Or is it the pheromone that makes them hot? Like
could they be just regular but the person and especially
the virgins, they're perceiving hot.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Exander had a cold, he couldn't breath out his nose.
She's like a you know, like a six out of.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
She's a ray cular you totally, she's a regular girl exactly.
Maybe something like that, Hey, what do you think those
are two options?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the vibe I definitely get
is that because we see her hand change to a
Pregmanti's hand in front of Xander. She's not on zipping anything,
So I think you are right that she could just
change forms at will and I could get on board
with She's actually a six out of ten and she's
giving him a dime. I think that's kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Obermantis, Diamantis.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
She's very ul Honestly, she's so hot.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
I love all of the mean the villain ladies in
this show have these cunty little bobs.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
I so agree. I love that. So far the show
has been like and if the villain is a female,
she is hot as hell. She's hot as hell, little bob,
including Darla.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
A little bit, Darlat totally, she's got like kind of
a lob. Three for three, Three for three.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
You cut your hair above your shoulders, you're turning evil, sister. Sorry,
that's just the laws of the Jewels.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Welcome to sunny Dale.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
We'll go to the hell mouth, bitch. That's how it works. Why, seriously,
the number one cause of evil the Barbers. Why no,
I understand. However, I feel like, does Buffy ever comment
on like how beautiful she is? I am like, is

(47:38):
this do you have to be attracted to ladies for
this pheromone to work?

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Well, Buffy is I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I mean, we don't know that in the comics, No,
she is.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
She is canonically, she.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Is canonically bisexual in the comics.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
What I mean in the TV show, I feel like
she is as well, and we'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
That's a good question. Or are they specific? Is it
like a is it like a male gazy i hedterrone normative? Yeah,
male gaizey, Yeah, breeding thing.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
I would love it. Giles is like, she's like, do
you know miss French, And He's like, oh yeah, the
new teacher. She's very well proportioned, and Buffy immune to
the pharamond is like she's a six out of ten.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
I don't think so about well proportioned.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Okay, average proportion.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
She's a regular lady. I do love seeing even Giles
like kind of taken over with the appeal that she
has on man, where he's like, oh yeah, she's well proportioned,
and like Buffy's like, shut up, you know I love

(48:44):
so much in this episode what I love Buffy's.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
What what I'm saying about this is gonna be so
stupid corny. I'm having such a good time talking about
Buffy too. Every episode of like What's the most going Red.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
It's really fun, not corny. I love that. Thank you,
thank you for saying that. Ah, I love that. Thank you.
I'm so glad. I'm really so happy to be here,
and I'm so excited. I love this fucking show anyway.
What I love what's that doctor? What's the other teacher's name?

Speaker 2 (49:26):
His first Gregory? I don't know his last name. I
know the principal, Yeahoody calls him doctor Gregory.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Doctor Gregory, so doctor greg Okay. And this is a
lord drop on Lena. And a reason that I connected
so much to Buffy when I was young is I head,
Oh my god, such a tough time in school. I
really had such a tough time. There were you know,
and this is like true with so many teens. There

(49:52):
were a lot of things in my life that made
me have to grow up really fast, and so I
felt like I had to deal with all these things
before I could even think about homework, before I could
even think about going to class, like class, I had
so much other stuff going on, and also it just
felt so overwhelming to me that I couldn't ever like

(50:16):
really get a grip on it. And so and this
is like kind of a consistent thing with Buffy and
we'll see it more. She really struggles in school, and
I really I I, oh my god, I could cry,
like it really like I connected with that so much
growing up and seeing this moment with her and doctor
Gregory in the like one of like the first scene
of the episode where he is like calling on Buffy.

(50:39):
Buffy is not even paying attention in class. She's been
up all night. She has been protecting the fucking town.
She like isn't paying attention in class because she feels
like she is not smart. He pulls her out, He
pulls her in after class and he's like, hey, I'm
sure you have a great reason to not be doing
the homework. I'm sure you have a great reason to

(51:00):
be learning. But I see you, and I see how
smart you are, and I see how like quick your
mind is, and I know that if you tried and
you did the homework, you could get this. He's like,
I've heard what the other teachers I was saying about you,
and honestly, fuck that, Like I see you, and I've

(51:20):
totally been in that position before. Oh my god, I've
totally been in that position before where I have had
the one teacher who has looked at me and called
me out and said, I see what's going on, and
I see you, and I know that you can do this,
and like I am ready to support you. You just
have to try, and I'm sure you have so much

(51:42):
else going on and you still have to do it,
you know. So I thought that was so awesome in her,
in him treating her like person, and like even Willow
saying like she's he was the only teacher who didn't
treat Buffy like a criminal, like the that Buffy carries
every single day living with what she's done and how

(52:04):
everyone treats her differently. That's so tough. And then to
have one teacher give you the time of day and
tell you that they'll support you, and then to have
him die, Oh my god. It's so upsetting. Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
And I love the moment at the end of the episode. First,
thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
That's very nice. The moment at the end of the episode,
if I'm not mistaken, the Buffy like picks up his
glasses and keeps them.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
She puts them so she so uh the teacher he
puts he takes his glasses off and then puts them
in his coat, and then Buffy puts them back in
his coat where yeah, yeah, because they were like on
the floor.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah. And this is a show we've talked about that,
like death is not a big deal, just like get
used to it. People are gonna die all the time.
It's part of the fun. So obviously I don't need
Buffy like sobbing over this teacher. It would frankly be
out of place for this episode. But I think that
moment is really tender, her giving him that respect of

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returning his glasses, because, like you said, Buffy's a great kid,
She's got a lot going on, and every adult in
her life thinks she's a delinquent. And then to have
the one adult at the school besides Giles who believes
in her be unceremoniously murdered, Not that there is a
ceremonious way to do that, but like just to suddenly

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have him ripped away from her is so tragic.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Finally, had you know someone who respected her and.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Is a constant theme in Buffy's life. She will never win.
She will always be bending over backwards to keep all
of her plates spinning to take care of the people
around her, and people always assume the worst of her
because of it.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
And it's so tough because she can't even she can't
even tell anyone what's actually going on. Oh my god, Buffy,
I love you.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Do you want to talk about Scissor hand Freddy Krueger. Yeah,
there's not much to say. Mostly it's he's ridiculous and
I'm obsessed. No, so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Also, Buffy like carding him around the neighborhood, sounding like
a character in a video game with the voiceover like
it's better than better than Radar.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
You know.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
The adr that she's doing is so funny.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
So Angel is a you know, he's sexy, he's mysterious,
he's brooding, and he's got a big scratch on his arm.
Sexy And Buffy's like, what's that and he says I was, Yeah,
he was, Like I wasn't prepared. Don't let him corner you.
So Buffy knows there's some vampire out there with scissor
hand walking around scissor hand one is just ridiculous. Yeah,

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I'm upset. I also love that he is built up
this whole episode as like the big threat. You know,
the opening scene is Angel warning Buffy bust is her hand,
and then she like goes hunting and she finds his
her hand and then ultimately get him.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
The cops get involved.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah, but then ultimately, well do the cops get involved?
It's that he sees Shemantis and he runs away and
he goes into the sewer, so.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
It's the well the cops, She's about to get him,
and then the cops show up and like.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Hey, who is that? Who is that? That's right?

Speaker 1 (55:31):
And then he jumps the fence and then the she
Mantis Yeah yeah, it takes him. Yeah, run away.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
But then once she knows that she Mantis is who
she should be worrying about and not says her hand.
He's dealt with. I already use this words, and I
feel stupid. He's dealt with so stupid, Thank you, He's
dealt with so unceremoniously. Where to the day where after
all this buildup of like who is this man who's

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scratched Angel, she literally pops out of a bush and
he goes you and she just says me, and then
the next hard cut to her carding him around with
his wrist behind his back. It is like, that's what
I love about Buffy semmrs me too, these demons who
think so highly themselves and that they're so threatening and ultimately.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
With each other, they're like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah yeah. And then ultimately she dealt with him so
quickly that it didn't even make the show. It's a
deleted scene just like he captured, you got him.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Oh my god. It's so funny, and that's I mean,
that's something I love so much about Buffy is I
love to hear people like demons talk about the Slayer
and then Buffy is so cash about it. She's like
mm hmm, okay, I'll get him.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yes, she has no she has no theatric, she has
no production And it's so funny to see these demons
who they live for the drama. They're all drama queens.
They just like want to do spectacle and Buffy is
so like, you don't understand. I'm clocking into work, like

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I'm doing my chores right now. I have to kill
this vampire, like I really want to go home and
hang out with my friends. The quicker we can do this,
the better exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
She's like, I have to drink tea at the Bronze later.
I have to kill you now.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
Sorry, I have to go to the underage teen club
in town.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Was literally drinking a cup of tea.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I mean at this bar. She's fifteen. She can't be
doing shots.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
That's so true. She's like, I have a black team. Please,
do you have some cameal? I'm headed to bed after this.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
It's a school night. I gotta do my biology homework.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Oh my god, this poor girl drinking tea at the
at the bar is so funny. They're broody, broody, broody, broody,
broody boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
That's why she did it, is because she knew Angel
was coming. She need it, seems, and.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I honestly, yes, yeah, that's what it was. She's like,
he is totally like the poetry like drink tea type.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Well, what you don't know is because somebody that was
so small. Bronze is the adult club, it's the teen club.
It's also the coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Yeah, I'm sure it is.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
There's someone like reading a book in the corner. Someone's
on their laptop trying to get work done while is playing.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yes, you do bring laptops here.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yes, it's the coffee shop.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
It is. It's just a the coffee shop. Vibes are crazy.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah, yeah, it's just oh music, so loud music with.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
Your Would you love the Bronze? I don't know that
I would.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
I would hate it. I would. I know for a
fact I would hate the Bronze.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
I feel like I would want to love the Bronze
so much. You know, what's a big thing in my
town at the time when I was like around fifteen sixteen,
so to shops in Utah are a huge thing, but
they were just coming up around the time I was
in high school, and they were trying to make them like,
you know, like a like a soda shop. Like they
wanted it to be like a like a like a

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place that teens came and hanged. And there was one
like just around my high school. And the big thing
there was they had a soda challenge. That was how
they were getting kids in the door, where if you
could drink these six concoctions and not throw up, you
got your picture on a wall and you got a
T shirt. Oh my god, And I only went one

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time to watch my friend do it, and I famously
hate shit like that, and I was it was like
darkened dank, like the bronze loud as fuck and like
ten teens are just throwing up into random trash cans.
It was hell on earth. I think they shut down
in like six months because you can't like you can't

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do that. You can't have a place where teens go
to just do these challenges. Like I only knew like
a few people who did it, and then they were
like putting like our high school, so they were trying
to like have it like yes, and it was terrible.
I was like, I'm never coming back here. This is hell.
It was awful.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
And my hometown I was never once invited. But the
like cool hangout place this was for. This was more
middle school, though by the time kids got cars, they
weren't going anymore. But pre licensed preteens would all go
to the ice rink and they wouldn't ice rink and
they no, they would just like hang around the rink

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and flirt with each other.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
That's so fun.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
I remember when I found out, little loser, thirteen year
old me found out that people at the ice dend
weren't even ice skating. I was like, what's the point,
where are you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
You know that's so interesting. We have like a roller rink,
but it's also an arcade and like bounce house as well.
Like it's like ten things in my hometown and we
would go and you didn't have to skate. There was
like ten other things that you could be doing. But
was there anything else to do?

Speaker 2 (01:01:08):
Or is it just again I say, I was never
invited to this day, I have never actually step foot
in the scott Sail Arizona ice dead, but we should go?
That was probably, I know, my childhood trauma. There was
probably an arcade, I'd imagine, but.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I don't honestly, maybe not, maybe not. Maybe it was
there was machines, you know, there was like some pink pinball.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Pinball pinball there there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So all is to say, would I like the Bronze,
I don't know. I probably wouldn't have an opinion because
I wouldn't get invited to go to the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
I would invite to the bron.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
All right, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yes, just in my mind, you know, in my mind,
we're the scoobies, you know what I mean? And maybe
we're not like you know in you know, we are
a part of the Scoobies just watching this show. That's
why I feel about watching Glee. I'm like, I'm in
the new directions. I know I'm not in the new directions,
but if I'm gonna go to National's with them, you
know what I mean, you don't really insert yourself into this.
I'm like, of course on one of the Bronze Buffy's

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there tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Yeah, I have to go exactly exactly She's gonna have
to be there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Oh, I have to be there. Okay, I love this show.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Speaking of let's backtrack a little bit. Okay, speaking of
the cops chasing off Edward Sassor hands the cops in
sunny Dale, which I know this is a cold take, Like,
of course the cops and Sunnydale are bad. That's why. Yeah,
and Buffy. But the cops in sunny Dale are bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
What they are bad?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
They chased off this vampire who Buffy was about to kill.
But more importantly, doctor Greg goes missing, fully goes missing,
like she Mantis didn't cover her tracks at all. She
didn't like forge a letter saying there's a family emergency.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Classes are still on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Exactly. This man goes missing, that is the official story.
And you didn't even search his classroom. No, sorry, his
student has to walk into first period the next day
and find his glasses on the ground.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
It's ridiculous. And even like you know, his his jacket
is still there, the eggs are under the table. No
one has looked at this room at all, and hello.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
No one's going to the cafeteria and opening up the freezer.
His body was in that arms all day and Cordelia
Chase the one to find it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yeah, my god, seriously, excuse you, excuse you. Funny Cordelia
moments in this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yeah, oh, excuse you? Is It's awesome, It's very good.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Oh did you think that I was saying that to you?

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I thought you were saying excuse you to the police
of Sunnydal.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
Oh no, no, And I am excuse you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, to the SPDA.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
It's something so funny about the show that I mean, hey,
I'm sure this is true to life too. Like to
watch Buffy in a crisis, like know exactly what to do.
She is quick, she's a quick thinker. She is a protector.
She is like here and like is accepting of her

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role of the person who is going to like make
things better, and it makes her like, you know, like
when she saved what's her face the dancer last episode
in The Witch. Yeah, like she's the only one who
can like stop the fire. Like no one knows how,
no one has their head screwed on in this town.
I swear to God.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
No, you are so right. Everyone in this town. A
man goes missing, they say, well, it is what it is.
A girl's hand lights on fire, and like, oh, I
guess we have no choice but to watch her burn alive.
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
And Buffy is the only one who like can pick
up his glasses. She's the only one who is like
investigating his murder. And they're they're fucking around. The cops
are fucking around with like homeless people in the park. Like,
oh my gosh, you guys are God. It's terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Does sound true?

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yeah, no, I feel like it is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
I would be far more concerned with the homeless people
in the park than solving a murder, a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Real life murder. Yeah, m interesting anyway, just an observation.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Let's talk about speaking of bad authority. Figures two about
Principal Fluty. I love Principal fluty and it is the
vibe of the town and it is intentional that it's
like everyone in charge is so inept at what they're doing. Yeah,
this principal Flutie scene. He has such a short role
in this episode, but it is such a perfect, good,

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one little moment. I love this idea of man who
wants to seem helpful so badly that he is actually unhelpful.
But like it's so important to him that he's being
a good principal that he actually is making.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Everything missing her pop quiz.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Yeah, that he's like in a forcer to go into
a therapist. He keeps talking about like and also like
it's he wants to be a good principal, not for
the students, but because he wants the school board to
think he's being a good principal.

Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
Yeah, he's like, we're really sensitive to a bad touches
around and I'm like, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I'm obsessed with that line when he's like, I care
so much about you, I'm always here if you need
a hug, but not a real hug. There's no touching
at the school, or very sensitive to wrong touching, but
him being like you literally have to go see a therapist,
and then she's like, why because I saw him decapitated.
He's like, don't say that, don't say he was decomposing,

(01:06:44):
don't say he was dead, and don't say any d words.
Like it's just so important to him that this school
continues on another day and he does not get fired.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
He's like, don't tell the school board. We're fixing this now.
It is so funny, you know, Rismal Fluty, that's someone
I'm thinking about when I'm thinking when I'm like thinking
about Buffy. So I'm I'm really glad that we're talking
about him because I feel like I'm overlooking him. Absolutely.
Oh my god, Principal Flutie are so silly. Also, listening

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in on Cordelia's therapy session makes me laugh every time,
where she's like, and yeah, I did see a dead body,
but I do think I've lost seven ounces, which you know,
I've always said this, we have to look on the
bright side, and she is like so out of touch,
and she is so focused on herself and her own
body that she is like not understanding that she literally
found a dead body. Oh my god, it makes me laugh. Silly, Cordy,

(01:07:42):
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Ya, obviously, and I think this is no secret because
she's in the opening credits. Yeah, Cordelia Chase is gonna
become a more central figure as the show goes on.
But I do love this is just something I love
about ensemble TV shows. I love building out the world
where it's like, Cordelia has nothing to do with what's
going on in this episode, but we'll give her a

(01:08:03):
few lines just so we all know that's Cordelia. She
goes to this school.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Too, No, we yes, and don't forget her name.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
And don't forget her name. Okay, what do you want
to talk about next?

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
What do we want to talk about next?

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
I'm kind of like, as far as my notes go, Yeah,
all I really have to unpack is Xander she mantis, Yes,
like him going over to her house to the end
of the episode. I feel like I have said my
piece on everything before that in the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah, I think, so let me rule it, dex. I
love the moment where Buffy is so sad that doctor
Greg has passed and when Giles hands her a glass
of water and she's like, no, thank you, and then
she takes it and drinks it. Anyways, it made me laugh.
But also I just love that, and I've totally been

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in that situation where you're so shocked that you like
your body is responding and your mind is like no,
I'm okay, and then you still do it. Oh my god, Buffy,
I love you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
I also love the moment where Willow is doing her
man in the chair thing and she is like finding
the corner's report, she is finding police reports. She is
like hacking the entire town, and Giles goes, I'm assuming
that everything we're doing is legal here, right, And then
Buffy and will are like, oh my, not completely legal, yes,

(01:09:36):
and He's like, I don't want to know. I don't
want to know. I don't want to know that man
is holding so much in his head. God, Giles, I
love you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Speaking of funny Giles moments, my maybe favorite joke in
the episode is them walking into school. It's a gorgeous
sunny day, not a cloud in the sky, and he goes, ugh,
every day is the same here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
I by is like, yeah, sunny and beautiful. How like
this sucks so bad? It's awesome. I just love it.
He is so he is so opposite to Buffy, and
I think it makes him such a fun pair, Like
Buffy is like, she is sunny, she is excited. She
is like just a young teen girl and she is

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a regular girl. And he is like the most like.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Yeah, like stick up his butt straight lace.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Yes, yes, And I think they are such a fun pair.
Their buddy of cop comedy always makes me laugh. Heck yeah,
heck yeah, okay, what of the manta?

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
So she man tis the way that she gets these
boys is which once again this is like silly, kooky,
but also, hey, here's things you should watch out for.
She's like, oh my gosh, we have to work on
this thing for school. Could you meet after school? And
then Xander goes to her classroom and she's like, I'm
so sorry, I forgot I have a teacher's conference in

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a half hour and I left the supplies at my house. Actually,
would you be comfortable going to my house tonight? And
then he comes over to her house and uh oh,
she's dressed a little sexy and uh oh she offers
him a little bit of alcohol and anyways, I think
this whole scene has done very well in that it
is unsettling and creepy enough that you are like, yeah,

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this is dangerous and bad. But once again, toes the
line where it's still kookie and silly.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Yeah, it's also like it's such an intense topic that
it could so quickly become really like upsetting to watch,
and I to me, I don't feel upset by it,
which I think is good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
My favorite line in this scene. My favorite xanderline in
the episode is when because she man just we find
out like needs men who are virgins, and so she
is talking to him and she goes, have you ever
been with a woman before? And he goes, you mean
in the same room. I love that anyways, So she

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gives him a martine that actually has like some sleeping
agent in it knocks him out. He wakes up. He's
in her basement in a cage with quarterback Blaine surprise,
also a virgin, and they are both waiting for her
to mate with them and rip their heads off. Here
is my question about this scene. Blaine explains to Xander

(01:12:39):
what's about to happen. He explains that she is going
to mate with them and rip their heads off, and
he says, I've seen it. Yes, Timeline Wise, who did
she kill? Because I was thinking maybe he saw it
happen to doctor Gregory because doctor Gregory's head is off.
Clearly it happened to him, but it's not doctor Gregory.

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Because Doctor Gregory. His body is found on the same
day that Blaine is supposed to meet with Miss French
after school, so his body is found before Blaine ever
gets captured. So who is this mysterious other man that
Blaine Saga killed?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Huh okay, two options in my mind immediately go to
are she's done this at a different school before and
there was.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Just like another guy already in the basement. Yeah, that
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
Or she's a teacher. She showed him a video.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
She was like it's really important.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
She brings out a projector.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Exactly, she has slides and she's like, I need you
to understand for your education what's about to happen. Here's
how a pregmantis mates. That's so funny, Blaine. It's probably
dramatized and crying and she's like just giving him a
science presentation. I like that option more that option, and

(01:14:00):
it's funk it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Also, I'm glad you didn't have to see it in
real life.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Yeah, yeah, I thank goodness for Blain.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Because it's really sad. You know, like the moment where
he's like explaining, what's going on is really sad, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I don't know. I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
And it's supposed to be silly, but it's also sad. Girl,
it's sad too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
What's actually gonna happen is sad, but it's also a
cookie crazy yeah, goodness takes yeah, and he keeps going oh, no, oh, god,
which I thought is fun and silly.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
And also sad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah, god forbid, I'd be a city goose.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Oh, I'll arrest you, throw.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Me in jail.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
I will.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
Yeah. And then you know, Buffy, Willow, Giles show up
because Scissor hand led them to the house, and then
Buffy killed him.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I have to say I said this before, but I'll
say it again. Buffy grabbing this guy, his hands are
behind his back, her saying so many words at him,
making so much noise in this residential neighborhood, bereaving, and
then Giles and Willow following her in her like obviously

(01:15:23):
this sounds like adr to me, and like she it
literally looks like she's in a video game where she
probably said like a few phrases and then they just
kind of threw them all in there, and it looks
it is silly, silicily goofy and I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
And then once they get to the home, she picks
up a piece of white picket fence offesome, yeah, and
breaks to the window.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
All in a day's work for the Slayer, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
She fights off. Miss Girl did her homework, She listened
to doctor Gregory. She learned, She learned that she needs
to be doing her homework. She brought bugs bray, you
brought bat sonar and she made quick work of that
she mantis.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
She did, Oh my gosh, and.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
That's a wrap on the she mantis.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Yeah. And I mean, but we see they didn't find
all the eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Okay, So here's my complaint with season one and Buffy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Ok this is going to come back, It's not going,
but it never does.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
They pull this constantly. We saw it last week, well
I guess two weeks ago because we did listener emails
last week. But we saw it in last episode with
Catherine trapped in the cheerleading statue. And there are at
least two more that I can think of off the
top of my head. In season one, cliffhangers being like
this big bad is coming back spoiler alert. They never do.

(01:16:45):
In future seasons that does start happening where they'll be
like a big bat and they will show up again.
But in season one, these are just monsters of the
week and you will never see She's never getting out
of that trophy. Those eggs are never hatching. It's not
gonna happen. You have to let it go.

Speaker 1 (01:17:01):
Yeah, you have to let it go. Hey, maybe you
can take this to heart as a conservationist yourself and
just to know that there exactly don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
It's okay, they're not they're protected species, they're not extinct.
We're fine. They're still out there grooming teenagers somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
Fine. Oh, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Well that's teacher's pet. I a lot of the teachers pet.
I feel like I'm so pitched.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Your doors day. I didn't know your song? Were you over?
Did you ever crush on? Did you ever crush this is?
Did you ever have a crush on a teacher?

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
So, as you know, I was famously so closeted growing
up to a degree that like I was closet to myself.
So a lot of it is I have to be
in retrospect to be like I definitely had a crush
on him.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
I think I probably had a crush on my like
eighth grade science teacher who I don't even remember the
name of, but shout out to him. It's hard to
be a homosexual man. There's not a lot of male
teachers famously. I think that's about it. Growing up in college,

(01:18:14):
I certainly had a crush on two of my professors.
One of them was my Spanish professor, who I used
to see at the gym all the time, and I
was like, oh, And then the other one was my
geology I was looking for an easy science credit, and
geology was it. He was also cool as shit. He

(01:18:38):
was teaching at a college in a small town in
Utah and was constantly going on long tangents about climate
change and about how anyone who didn't believe in climate
change was stupid, and he would awesome. He would always
be like and people talk of them too. He was
always like people talking about how global warming can't be

(01:18:59):
real because it was so cold this winter. Yeah, and
on the Titanic the ship couldn't have been sinking because
the bow got so much higher over the water.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I was a big fan of his. He was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Oh my god, I have a crush on him too.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
I know that he also was a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Hello, You'll have to tell me his name Google.

Speaker 2 (01:19:18):
Honestly, I don't remember, No, I can't remember it. I
don't remember. I literally in college, I think I only
remember the names of our acting produce professors. Yeah, anyone
else is like, yeah, do you have teacher crushes?

Speaker 1 (01:19:33):
I don't, you know, So I'm thinking back to like
elementary school, and there are I remember there was one
teacher who I wanted to I wanted to hug her
all the time, and she was like, Okay, stop hugging me.
And I was like, okay, so I probably had a
crush on her, but I was also like six, yeah.

(01:19:54):
I also, I feel like my teacher crushes aren't even necessarily,
at least with the teach I've had, aren't necessarily like
we're gonna kiss. More like I need them to love
me and respect me so bad, and I think that
is kind of crushy. But I don't know that it
was like straight up like crushy, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
You weren't gonna like try and pull Exander Harris with him, No, no, no, no,
it was you give me butterflies, and therefore I need
you to think. I'm yes, I need.

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Your your approval so bad. Exactly exactly teachers, but I
don't know the rest of our teachers.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Take Homa diploma and show me that you love me too.
So heavy Teachers Pet Long after School is dude.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
That sounds a banger. It's fun. It's also like the
lyrics are crazy, are they? I mean it's a young
girl being like I want to continue to be teacher's
pet where I kiss the teacher?

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
And everyone what is it? Everyone said, hey, when I
kiss the teacher? I don't know anyways, Teacher, Teachers, Teachers,
Chris season rap kill count in this episode. Goodbye doctor Gregory,
May he rest? I that goodbye ses her hands? May
he rest? Goodbye? May she not rest? Disgusting Corbert and

(01:21:31):
death to pedophiles a potential fourth that Blaine saw. But
I'm gonna side with you and say no, it was
a slide show, so we're capping it at three slidew
so I'm going to add that to her kill count.
Now I'll add this bath. Our master kill count is
now up to twelve m May they rest? What's your

(01:22:00):
worst part of Teacher's Pet?

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Okay, I enjoyed this episode way more than I thought
I was going to. But my worst part is Buffy
doesn't have a teacher anymore who is like advocating for her.
Obviously she has Giles, but it is he's a really
different it's a really different person in her life. And
he's the librarian. He's not a teacher, He's just like
an authority figure in the school. And I just was

(01:22:26):
so sad that doctor Gregory's not around anymore, and then
she doesn't have anyone to advocate for her on the
school board. That's my worst part. I love you, Buffy.
What's your worst part?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
This epis's is really fun, So it's hard for me
to pick a worst part because I feel like this
is an episode that knows what it is. It's campy,
it's a b A movie, it's a fun monster of
the week. I will say she mantis diva, her demises
a little anticlimactic, the bug spray, I like the bat Sonar,

(01:22:57):
but then once the bat Sonar.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
I know they do like some shadow stuff. You're not
seeing her.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
And it's like a three hits and she's down. Yeah,
And if this is some mythical beast that drove doctor
Carlyle insane. Yeah, I want her to be I think
it's funny when like a one off vampire is a
quick kill. But if we're building a whole episode around
this villain, I like her to be able to stand
more than three hits. But that is I'm literally nitpicking

(01:23:27):
because I thought this episode was fun.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Yeah, and it's also like she's a pedophile. Let us
watch her head exactly, I wonder exactly because it's a
real puppet. They couldn't do so much like dis damage
to this puppet because it's also a bar. It's a
borrowed puppet.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Yeah, they it's just all shadow work, which I don't
mind that it's shadow work.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
No, No, I don't mind. But I want to see Yeah,
all right, I want to see the predator die.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
What's your best part?

Speaker 1 (01:23:55):
My best part is Buffy Summers and I I love
her so much and I saw so much of myself
and her when I was a teenager, especially in terms
of in this moment, she really struggled in school and
that made me feel really seen as a kid, and
I love that so much. And Buffy, I love you,
and she just she's such a she's just such a
good kid. And I ugh her picking up his glasses

(01:24:18):
and the point of them back. She's just she's just
got such a good heart, Buffy, I love you. What's
your best part?

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
My best part is My best part is I love
on a piece of media knows what it is. That's
the most important thing for me in any piece of media.
If you know what you are, then I'm on board.
And this move, this episode so clearly is intentionally an
old Hollywood monster horror flick. Yes, and I love that.

(01:24:45):
I love how corny it is. I love how bad
some of the special effects are. I love how ridiculous
it is that this dime of a teacher is secretly
a primantis. It's all so silly and dumb, and it's
supposed to be silly and dumb, and I eat it up.
It's great time.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Yeah, it's really fun.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Wow. Well, goodbye Shee Mantas, Goodbye Teacher's pet by doors
day and hello to Oh my gosh, what's the next episode? Like,
Never Kill a Boy on the First Date? Is that
the next episode?

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
And hello to Never Kill a Boy in the First
Date Next week, same time, same place. In the meantime,
if you've got thoughts, you can send them to us
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So Future is going to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
It's your return.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
I don't know, it's my idea.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Actually it's I think is whoever does the slack does it?

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
I think you're probably right so even episodes. So it's
my turn to take right hand because you're right handed,
because right handed is famously even and left handed is
famously odd. And that is true.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
That's true. No, that's true. Yes, that's true. That's right.
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Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Happy, keep slaying. Will you be slaying?

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
No, why are you apologizing?

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
No, I'm sorry because I keep getting us off track.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Col I'm just gonna edit it out. It's just since
we're like starting new phase, I'm trying to like be
more on track so that new listeners so that we
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we can't get too off base until we're a few
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