April 19, 2025 • 15 mins
New SLT ‘the TALK’ podcast featuring Gravy the Master Barber - Follow @dagravymaster
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm gonna ask all to you to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm your co host Roubert Artists alongside.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Miss Melan and Rains and today we are here with Gravy.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
How you doing, I'm doing great? Yes, the Gravy Master
to be pacific.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Right, So hey, but man, tell us about your journey
as a barber and how you got into Barbara.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
All right, So I gotten a barbering because uh, just
like probably a lot of people become the four haircuts.
So my mother got five kids. I got three brothers
and one sister. So eventually got to a point where
my stepfather's cutting my hair and they started packing me
in school and I just wasn't having that. They just
called me milk stuff like that, and I'm like, I
(00:49):
come home to my mother, I'm like, look, if you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Mess up my hand for free, y'all might go buy
me a pair clippers. And then there was a rat from that.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I started to cut my own hair, messing myself up
for a pretty good while, and start messing up rather
and once I got good enough, start matching out people
in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And then eventually I got good. So that's kind of
how that went right there.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So how long have you been cutting here? And also
what has you consistent? Because yes, you started off, you
told us what you was inserved by, but what kept
you on that path of doing here?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So I've been cutting hand for sixteen years, and I've
been cutting hand since I was.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Twelve years old.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And what's consistent is overall the ability to be able
to use it to my benefit, like maximize it. Like
when people think of bothering, they think simplicit thoughts like
they're making money. I think about touching different people, utilizing
it by opportunities and just finding different ways that manifest
just overall.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Positivity and wealth. Because it's a multitude of ways.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You can teach how to cut head, You can have
sentinos about cutting hand, you know what I mean. It's
just like get to meet so many people, have so
many conversations, you get to be a therapist. Is so
for me, me is a never ending, ever expanding business.
Every single year I find something new that I can
do with cutting hair.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So that's kind of what keeps me consistent because I
yearn to figure out what I was I can do
with it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
With the consistency, right, it's always a balance. So what
has been your most challenging.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
A part in your.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Career on your dreamy with cutting hand.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh, the most challenging part for me has been not
becoming stagnant with my skill, you know what I mean,
because once you get to a certain level of cutting hand,
you kind of already is like water, it just flows.
So in order for me to stay consistent with the skill,
I gotta kind of like put my mouth in areas
where I see people that's better than me, because I'm
(02:44):
always willing. You have to always be a student, and
sometimes you'll get to the point whereas though you know
you're just you kind of like not moving with it.
You know, once you cut your clients and everybody like
your cuts, it doesn't become challenging no more. And that
becomes a challenge because then you sometimes it get bored
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So I say, that's the hardest part for real.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That I can tell from your demeanor because I've never
met you before in your word so far, that you're
a wealth of wisdom. I can touch on community, and
here I speak like to what we're really big on community.
You talk about it's not just about the hair and
the money. For me, I'm touching people. I'm meeting people.
So is there a connection between you and the community
(03:25):
that you've been able to bridge that gap since set
in here.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yes, So since I've been cutting hand, it's a lot
of things that I did personally like my own and
that was that I was trying to figure out which
I did. So I do events, a lot of them
unpaid events or if they is paid, then I take
a huge discount off the strength of who a benefit.
So I then probably did over at this point, maybe
like three hundred and fifty events. I used to work
(03:51):
with an organization called Love Your Health, So they used
to pay me to go and cut children's head, older women,
people in saying systems, senior citizens, homes, retirement.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Homes, and I just used to it used to be
free to them, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I used to just go all across Maryland, so
like shooting Maryland, some Maryland, Montgomery County, like anyway you
can name it. But for me, being able to provide
some type of financial relief in this world is the
thing to me for the simple fact that I know
how hard it's been, and I know I'm no stranger
to you feel what I'm saying. Hard times and then
(04:28):
plus I'm when I was working with Live Shad, they
predominantly dealt with people in the black community that was
in the areas where they had health disparities. But you
know how disparities go hand in hand with financial skiality
because you would rather provide for your family to make
sure that you're help.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So most times people won't go.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
To the doctor, but they able to work every day
to make sure they provide for their kids, but their
health instead ofly declinate. And currently I'm working with cut
the MD, which is an organization that works with people
with diabetes. But you know, people with diabetes either they
aren't experienced and what diabetes is, so they're scared of it,
or you know, they just scared to you know, admit
(05:07):
the fact that they have diabetes. But being as though
I have the means to provide them a haircut, that's
like a good trade off.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They come get a haircut, they willing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
To talk to the dialities specialists, and then they end
up figuring out like, wow, I can actually manage this
and I can actually live a normal life. So I'm
kind of like the liaison between the communities that I
use my skills to provide you know, assistance and getting
these people what they need, because in the black community
be scared of a lot of things for a lot
of good reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You know, we fair for of a lot of.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Things, like God, really different things because you know, we
so used to people putting us in predicaments, and you know,
we trying to listen to people. So I just kind
of take their hand and guide them like, Hey, I'm
from the same neighborhood and in the same position these
people mean you well, so yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's funny as you mentioned that, that that feeling that
you have for these people because we met and barber
school right like around like twenty twenty one, between twos
and like probably with that maybe like for myth said
to the ballering school, you was like, hey, look everybody,
I got this thing going on. I'm trying to go
on signs. We won't go down there and feed the
homeless and get these haircuts. So I see your passion
(06:15):
for the community. I just want to you know, what
expired you to really step out side of your comfort zone.
Like look, man, I had cut page of life. So
a lot of these people that are disadvantaged, you know,
almost giving them my haircutuse shaping so many ways that
now that they feel like a brand new person, they
could go out to a job interview. What inspires you
to do that and what was the thought process behind that?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
So for me, right, I'm always trying to utilize what
I have to the maximum and but minimize waste. So
when I'm saying that, you know, when I came to
Barbering School, I came to get my life.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I'd already been caught forever long. I didn't have to
tell nobody nothing when I went in there, and I kind.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Of played it like that because ultimately never really know
who's in there for whatever reasons, and I'm not a
gluten type of person. I like to play the background
because you're a lot more if you don't say much.
So essentially, when I seen how many students, it was
because Barbara School is designed to teach you the information,
but the wisdom looking here you learn throughout the course
of experiences. So they wasn't going out to cut head
(07:14):
and a lot of them was frustrated for reasons. So
you're paying twenty thousand dollars whatever. So I said, okay,
I like a lot of these people in here. I
took an a lightning to them. I'm gonna figure out
a way because I was already cutting homes. I did
that on my own because I said, if I'm in
all this money in the community, I don't see no
bothers putting back into the community that they taking money from.
And to be honest with you, it made me feel
(07:35):
some type of way, and I'm mad at them. To
each his own, but for me, I'm taking making hundreds
of dollars, you get what I'm saying, Like, I can
make five six hundred dollars in a day. What am
I doing for the community, And I'm wearing it? Like
I said, I did events with kids and stuff like that.
But these people are still shrilling. But the homeless people,
you know what I mean, it's a whole different type
of value. You got to sleep outside. Hey, you don't
(07:55):
know where your next meal is coming from. So I
didn't want to just be in the middle of the
total pole. I want to go to bottom and you know,
go on up as well. So for me, how can
we capitalize on this. I can take them, I can
teach them, I cut the hair if they're willing to
donate their times to the community, right, So I kill
two birds with one stone. They get the line out
of the head. The people in the community, you get
(08:16):
the benefit from it. And because they was homeless, majority
of them do not care about the type of hair cut.
They don't get a haircut for style. They get a
haircut for maintenance and for mental health. When you don't
have your haircut, you don't have clean clothes and wear.
It's heavy on your mind. You don't feel like you
You're already getting treated less than by the people that
see you in lest you so a haircut to them
(08:37):
breathes life and gives them inspiration to be able to
move forward. You know, I'm not going to go too
deep into it, but there was several occasions and conversations
I had with men and women down there that was
homeless that had thought about killing themselves and stuff like that.
One conversation I had in particular, the dude was like, listen, man,
I appreciate this haircut. I was like, nah, for sure,
you know that's a gravy way, right And he was like, no, man,
(08:58):
I'm not saying the haircut shit.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You talking to treating me like a human and just
making me feel good again. It was like I was
thinking about going jumping.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
On the bridge, and I was like, well, I'm glad
that I could provide not the haircut, but just to
provide the conversation. And you feel saying the substance is
needed for your soul in order for you to you
feel me continue on because it be hard, you know,
it be hard, like you never know what somebody going through,
So you have to really take time to just step
outside yourself because a lot of times every day we
(09:25):
waking up, we wearing our bills, our kids, our job.
But then it's like it's other people that would kill
to be in our position that we so stressed and
were thinking about all the things that we don't have,
and another person is looking at you like wow, that
person is black. So that's how I kind of look
at it. And then you know, like I said, it
was a trade off on both ends. And I was
able to teach all the students, you know what I mean,
(09:46):
A lot of them doing great now, a lot of
them involve shops, a lot of I'm making a lot
of money. And then I say this ifl them type
of way towards people over time when they kind of
transgress from doing it. But then I also said, hey,
just be because that's what I like to do in
this my path. Some people take what they need and
they continue on for real. But for me personally, I
still do what I do because I don't do it
(10:08):
who will? So you know I can't hold eavy against them.
I in my heart I wish them the best and
hopefully you know that careers continue to you know, go
and transpire to success. But I always say, like when
you give you half, what I mean, where you take
you half to give, that's how you replenish it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
For real.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
If you point into a cup with a hole and
it's going to keep, you know, and ain't gonna fill.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Up for real.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But if you got a solid cup and you pour
into it, you can pour out and then you pour
back into it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So that's kind of why I do what I do.
That's powerful.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Where's gravy headed from here? Because you're doing so many
amazing days? What what are the next steps for you?
What are some of new things?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All right? So for me, I cut had seven days
a week. All I do is I live it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I breathe with blood, sweat, tears, and years I put
behind it, you know what I mean? So I want
to still cut there, but not as much. And I
want to teach people out of cut hand. So I
was a regular barber when I got my Bible license.
I'm now a master bob for now license to be
able to have seminars, be a barber instructor, and had
rare apprentices. And I want to start a barber and
(11:13):
boot camp for not just for barbers, but for farthers
that may want to save money and learn how to
cut head so they can save money and utilize that money.
You know different places, but mothers that want to learn
how to cut here, you know, any family member, anybody
that could benefit from learning how to cut head and
save the money because it is expensive, you know, and
(11:35):
excuse me. I just want to tease that. And also
just you know, just got to just tell people that
is a million ways to make money. As about I
don't really think that people understand how to catalyze the
I know how to talk to people, I know how
to get contracts, I know how to get the sponsorships.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I know how to do all that. So when it
comes down, I.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Just want to get these sixteen years of experience and
give it to the people that all thanking so big
when it kind of bother. So that's really what I
want to do. I want to take the information, give
it away. You know, of course, make some money, take
care of my family, but that's that's not the main goal.
I'm gonna make that on dit or whatever, and it's
going to come, but give it away because I'm not
(12:14):
gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Though. In order for a legend to live on hand,
some passed on. So that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
My last question for you, I just want to know
what's being your biggest inspiration just to keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
To see how many people are touched and see how
greatly it affected them. Like over the course of the
years that I've been cutting had, I've seen children grow
up to become teenagers, and the conversation that we had,
I can't say it it goted that direction, because you
never know what somebody doing, But I can't say it
molded some of the choices that they probably would have
(12:54):
made if they didn't have proper God, because a lot
of them didn't have father.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But just to see the little bits and pieces that
I've instilled in not just my customers, but everybody's come
into contact with. But to see it manifest and you know,
help people grow, you know, that's kind of what's kept
me going because just to see everything that you know,
I made, Like you know, they say you speak life
and death out your mouth, and I definitely affected a
(13:19):
lot of their lives. I met a lot of the
people you as well, So it's like to see that
and just to never know who you gonna meet.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And I'm always meeting people.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I've met CEOs of fortune, five hundred companies, I've set
and buildings and drums like they can rent it a
whole rustum me out and been at dinner's where they
pay for everything, open calls.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's just the possibilities are endless.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
And on top of that, just meeting people and being
able to help people just everything and go hand and
had God just continuously bless me no matter what, no
matter the shruggles or whatever that I go through as
a buffer, meat cutting hair became an endless pool to
unlimited opportunities.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So that's what keep me going because I never know
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Now sure, now that is powerful, and I hope that
we'll be seeing you at Speak Life tour, maybe cultivate
some type of work hard for young guys or something,
because we need and it's been to honor and a
pleasure to be here with you. Tell the people where
they can find you and what you got coming up.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
If you have anything this year, all right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The only thing I can think about is insta, Instagram,
gravy mass d a the not the people get infused.
But that's you know, the bottom or slang the gravy
Master and it's the gravy Master on YouTube and the
gravy Master on Texas.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Tomorrow, I've gotten event housing.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
For Black Men's Mental Health, So I'm gonna go up
there and come of the college students have attended last
year and it's basically just where we sit down and
we have talks about, you know, the things that black
men fail about, you know, just the mental stability of
the black man and how the communities, the areas and
the people and things that have happened to the black men.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, where that mental health.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Is because of it, and how to create healthy habits
and kind of get out of that mindset that you know,
everybody's out to get us and stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Just so collaborate together and just give my headcut, sit
down and talk.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So I'm gonna be there allow. I think it's five
to seven, and yeah, we're gonna be up there and talk.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, yes, So we just want to thank you Gravy
for you know. So this concludes our episode series with
the Gravy Master again. I am your host little Boy
Artists alongshide.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Missus Melanin Rains and make sure you follow us on
all platforms at speak like tour that I'll speak like
tour dot org.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
See you soon, you guys, Thank you
I'm gonna ask all to you to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm your co host Roubert Artists alongside.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Miss Melan and Rains and today we are here with Gravy.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
How you doing, I'm doing great? Yes, the Gravy Master
to be pacific.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Right, So hey, but man, tell us about your journey
as a barber and how you got into Barbara.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
All right, So I gotten a barbering because uh, just
like probably a lot of people become the four haircuts.
So my mother got five kids. I got three brothers
and one sister. So eventually got to a point where
my stepfather's cutting my hair and they started packing me
in school and I just wasn't having that. They just
called me milk stuff like that, and I'm like, I
(00:49):
come home to my mother, I'm like, look, if you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Mess up my hand for free, y'all might go buy
me a pair clippers. And then there was a rat from that.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
I started to cut my own hair, messing myself up
for a pretty good while, and start messing up rather
and once I got good enough, start matching out people
in the neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
And then eventually I got good. So that's kind of
how that went right there.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
So how long have you been cutting here? And also
what has you consistent? Because yes, you started off, you
told us what you was inserved by, but what kept
you on that path of doing here?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So I've been cutting hand for sixteen years, and I've
been cutting hand since I was.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Twelve years old.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And what's consistent is overall the ability to be able
to use it to my benefit, like maximize it. Like
when people think of bothering, they think simplicit thoughts like
they're making money. I think about touching different people, utilizing
it by opportunities and just finding different ways that manifest
just overall.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Positivity and wealth. Because it's a multitude of ways.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
You can teach how to cut head, You can have
sentinos about cutting hand, you know what I mean. It's
just like get to meet so many people, have so
many conversations, you get to be a therapist. Is so
for me, me is a never ending, ever expanding business.
Every single year I find something new that I can
do with cutting hair.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So that's kind of what keeps me consistent because I
yearn to figure out what I was I can do
with it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
With the consistency, right, it's always a balance. So what
has been your most challenging.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
A part in your.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Career on your dreamy with cutting hand.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh, the most challenging part for me has been not
becoming stagnant with my skill, you know what I mean,
because once you get to a certain level of cutting hand,
you kind of already is like water, it just flows.
So in order for me to stay consistent with the skill,
I gotta kind of like put my mouth in areas
where I see people that's better than me, because I'm
(02:44):
always willing. You have to always be a student, and
sometimes you'll get to the point whereas though you know
you're just you kind of like not moving with it.
You know, once you cut your clients and everybody like
your cuts, it doesn't become challenging no more. And that
becomes a challenge because then you sometimes it get bored
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
So I say, that's the hardest part for real.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That I can tell from your demeanor because I've never
met you before in your word so far, that you're
a wealth of wisdom. I can touch on community, and
here I speak like to what we're really big on community.
You talk about it's not just about the hair and
the money. For me, I'm touching people. I'm meeting people.
So is there a connection between you and the community
(03:25):
that you've been able to bridge that gap since set
in here.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yes, So since I've been cutting hand, it's a lot
of things that I did personally like my own and
that was that I was trying to figure out which
I did. So I do events, a lot of them
unpaid events or if they is paid, then I take
a huge discount off the strength of who a benefit.
So I then probably did over at this point, maybe
like three hundred and fifty events. I used to work
(03:51):
with an organization called Love Your Health, So they used
to pay me to go and cut children's head, older women,
people in saying systems, senior citizens, homes, retirement.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Homes, and I just used to it used to be
free to them, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
And I used to just go all across Maryland, so
like shooting Maryland, some Maryland, Montgomery County, like anyway you
can name it. But for me, being able to provide
some type of financial relief in this world is the
thing to me for the simple fact that I know
how hard it's been, and I know I'm no stranger
to you feel what I'm saying. Hard times and then
(04:28):
plus I'm when I was working with Live Shad, they
predominantly dealt with people in the black community that was
in the areas where they had health disparities. But you
know how disparities go hand in hand with financial skiality
because you would rather provide for your family to make
sure that you're help.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So most times people won't go.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
To the doctor, but they able to work every day
to make sure they provide for their kids, but their
health instead ofly declinate. And currently I'm working with cut
the MD, which is an organization that works with people
with diabetes. But you know, people with diabetes either they
aren't experienced and what diabetes is, so they're scared of it,
or you know, they just scared to you know, admit
(05:07):
the fact that they have diabetes. But being as though
I have the means to provide them a haircut, that's
like a good trade off.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They come get a haircut, they willing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
To talk to the dialities specialists, and then they end
up figuring out like, wow, I can actually manage this
and I can actually live a normal life. So I'm
kind of like the liaison between the communities that I
use my skills to provide you know, assistance and getting
these people what they need, because in the black community
be scared of a lot of things for a lot
of good reasons.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You know, we fair for of a lot of.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Things, like God, really different things because you know, we
so used to people putting us in predicaments, and you know,
we trying to listen to people. So I just kind
of take their hand and guide them like, Hey, I'm
from the same neighborhood and in the same position these
people mean you well, so yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
It's funny as you mentioned that, that that feeling that
you have for these people because we met and barber
school right like around like twenty twenty one, between twos
and like probably with that maybe like for myth said
to the ballering school, you was like, hey, look everybody,
I got this thing going on. I'm trying to go
on signs. We won't go down there and feed the
homeless and get these haircuts. So I see your passion
(06:15):
for the community. I just want to you know, what
expired you to really step out side of your comfort zone.
Like look, man, I had cut page of life. So
a lot of these people that are disadvantaged, you know,
almost giving them my haircutuse shaping so many ways that
now that they feel like a brand new person, they
could go out to a job interview. What inspires you
to do that and what was the thought process behind that?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
All right?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
So for me, right, I'm always trying to utilize what
I have to the maximum and but minimize waste. So
when I'm saying that, you know, when I came to
Barbering School, I came to get my life.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I'd already been caught forever long. I didn't have to
tell nobody nothing when I went in there, and I kind.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Of played it like that because ultimately never really know
who's in there for whatever reasons, and I'm not a
gluten type of person. I like to play the background
because you're a lot more if you don't say much.
So essentially, when I seen how many students, it was
because Barbara School is designed to teach you the information,
but the wisdom looking here you learn throughout the course
of experiences. So they wasn't going out to cut head
(07:14):
and a lot of them was frustrated for reasons. So
you're paying twenty thousand dollars whatever. So I said, okay,
I like a lot of these people in here. I
took an a lightning to them. I'm gonna figure out
a way because I was already cutting homes. I did
that on my own because I said, if I'm in
all this money in the community, I don't see no
bothers putting back into the community that they taking money from.
And to be honest with you, it made me feel
(07:35):
some type of way, and I'm mad at them. To
each his own, but for me, I'm taking making hundreds
of dollars, you get what I'm saying, Like, I can
make five six hundred dollars in a day. What am
I doing for the community, And I'm wearing it? Like
I said, I did events with kids and stuff like that.
But these people are still shrilling. But the homeless people,
you know what I mean, it's a whole different type
of value. You got to sleep outside. Hey, you don't
(07:55):
know where your next meal is coming from. So I
didn't want to just be in the middle of the
total pole. I want to go to bottom and you know,
go on up as well. So for me, how can
we capitalize on this. I can take them, I can
teach them, I cut the hair if they're willing to
donate their times to the community, right, So I kill
two birds with one stone. They get the line out
of the head. The people in the community, you get
(08:16):
the benefit from it. And because they was homeless, majority
of them do not care about the type of hair cut.
They don't get a haircut for style. They get a
haircut for maintenance and for mental health. When you don't
have your haircut, you don't have clean clothes and wear.
It's heavy on your mind. You don't feel like you
You're already getting treated less than by the people that
see you in lest you so a haircut to them
(08:37):
breathes life and gives them inspiration to be able to
move forward. You know, I'm not going to go too
deep into it, but there was several occasions and conversations
I had with men and women down there that was
homeless that had thought about killing themselves and stuff like that.
One conversation I had in particular, the dude was like, listen, man,
I appreciate this haircut. I was like, nah, for sure,
you know that's a gravy way, right And he was like, no, man,
(08:58):
I'm not saying the haircut shit.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You talking to treating me like a human and just
making me feel good again. It was like I was
thinking about going jumping.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
On the bridge, and I was like, well, I'm glad
that I could provide not the haircut, but just to
provide the conversation. And you feel saying the substance is
needed for your soul in order for you to you
feel me continue on because it be hard, you know,
it be hard, like you never know what somebody going through,
So you have to really take time to just step
outside yourself because a lot of times every day we
(09:25):
waking up, we wearing our bills, our kids, our job.
But then it's like it's other people that would kill
to be in our position that we so stressed and
were thinking about all the things that we don't have,
and another person is looking at you like wow, that
person is black. So that's how I kind of look
at it. And then you know, like I said, it
was a trade off on both ends. And I was
able to teach all the students, you know what I mean,
(09:46):
A lot of them doing great now, a lot of
them involve shops, a lot of I'm making a lot
of money. And then I say this ifl them type
of way towards people over time when they kind of
transgress from doing it. But then I also said, hey,
just be because that's what I like to do in
this my path. Some people take what they need and
they continue on for real. But for me personally, I
still do what I do because I don't do it
(10:08):
who will? So you know I can't hold eavy against them.
I in my heart I wish them the best and
hopefully you know that careers continue to you know, go
and transpire to success. But I always say, like when
you give you half, what I mean, where you take
you half to give, that's how you replenish it.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
For real.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
If you point into a cup with a hole and
it's going to keep, you know, and ain't gonna fill.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Up for real.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
But if you got a solid cup and you pour
into it, you can pour out and then you pour
back into it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So that's kind of why I do what I do.
That's powerful.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Where's gravy headed from here? Because you're doing so many
amazing days? What what are the next steps for you?
What are some of new things?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
All right? So for me, I cut had seven days
a week. All I do is I live it.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I breathe with blood, sweat, tears, and years I put
behind it, you know what I mean? So I want
to still cut there, but not as much. And I
want to teach people out of cut hand. So I
was a regular barber when I got my Bible license.
I'm now a master bob for now license to be
able to have seminars, be a barber instructor, and had
rare apprentices. And I want to start a barber and
(11:13):
boot camp for not just for barbers, but for farthers
that may want to save money and learn how to
cut head so they can save money and utilize that money.
You know different places, but mothers that want to learn
how to cut here, you know, any family member, anybody
that could benefit from learning how to cut head and
save the money because it is expensive, you know, and
(11:35):
excuse me. I just want to tease that. And also
just you know, just got to just tell people that
is a million ways to make money. As about I
don't really think that people understand how to catalyze the
I know how to talk to people, I know how
to get contracts, I know how to get the sponsorships.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I know how to do all that. So when it
comes down, I.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Just want to get these sixteen years of experience and
give it to the people that all thanking so big
when it kind of bother. So that's really what I
want to do. I want to take the information, give
it away. You know, of course, make some money, take
care of my family, but that's that's not the main goal.
I'm gonna make that on dit or whatever, and it's
going to come, but give it away because I'm not
(12:14):
gonna be here forever.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Though. In order for a legend to live on hand,
some passed on. So that's what I want to do.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
My last question for you, I just want to know
what's being your biggest inspiration just to keep going.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
That's a great question.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
To see how many people are touched and see how
greatly it affected them. Like over the course of the
years that I've been cutting had, I've seen children grow
up to become teenagers, and the conversation that we had,
I can't say it it goted that direction, because you
never know what somebody doing, But I can't say it
molded some of the choices that they probably would have
(12:54):
made if they didn't have proper God, because a lot
of them didn't have father.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
But just to see the little bits and pieces that
I've instilled in not just my customers, but everybody's come
into contact with. But to see it manifest and you know,
help people grow, you know, that's kind of what's kept
me going because just to see everything that you know,
I made, Like you know, they say you speak life
and death out your mouth, and I definitely affected a
(13:19):
lot of their lives. I met a lot of the
people you as well, So it's like to see that
and just to never know who you gonna meet.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And I'm always meeting people.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I've met CEOs of fortune, five hundred companies, I've set
and buildings and drums like they can rent it a
whole rustum me out and been at dinner's where they
pay for everything, open calls.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's just the possibilities are endless.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
And on top of that, just meeting people and being
able to help people just everything and go hand and
had God just continuously bless me no matter what, no
matter the shruggles or whatever that I go through as
a buffer, meat cutting hair became an endless pool to
unlimited opportunities.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So that's what keep me going because I never know
what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Now sure, now that is powerful, and I hope that
we'll be seeing you at Speak Life tour, maybe cultivate
some type of work hard for young guys or something,
because we need and it's been to honor and a
pleasure to be here with you. Tell the people where
they can find you and what you got coming up.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
If you have anything this year, all right, thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
The only thing I can think about is insta, Instagram,
gravy mass d a the not the people get infused.
But that's you know, the bottom or slang the gravy
Master and it's the gravy Master on YouTube and the
gravy Master on Texas.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Tomorrow, I've gotten event housing.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
For Black Men's Mental Health, So I'm gonna go up
there and come of the college students have attended last
year and it's basically just where we sit down and
we have talks about, you know, the things that black
men fail about, you know, just the mental stability of
the black man and how the communities, the areas and
the people and things that have happened to the black men.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You know, where that mental health.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Is because of it, and how to create healthy habits
and kind of get out of that mindset that you know,
everybody's out to get us and stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Just so collaborate together and just give my headcut, sit
down and talk.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
So I'm gonna be there allow. I think it's five
to seven, and yeah, we're gonna be up there and talk.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yes, yes, So we just want to thank you Gravy
for you know. So this concludes our episode series with
the Gravy Master again. I am your host little Boy
Artists alongshide.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Missus Melanin Rains and make sure you follow us on
all platforms at speak like tour that I'll speak like
tour dot org.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
See you soon, you guys, Thank you
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