October 15, 2024 • 30 mins
We're taking a trip down to the bayou to meet New Orleans' most infamous local: the one and only Marie Laveau, the Voodoo Queen herself. Was she a powerful spiritual healer, a feared sorceress, or just the best at running the city’s underground rumor mill? We’re unraveling the life, magic, and myths surrounding the original boss witch who ruled New Orleans with a side of gris-gris and charm.
We’ll explore how Marie’s mix of spirituality, medicine, and maybe just a hint of witchcraft made her a legend that still haunts the French Quarter today.
So grab your lucky charms (no, not the cereal) and dive into an episode filled with magic, mystery, and the sassiest witch this side of the Mississippi. Tune in, because even centuries later, Marie Laveau’s spell is still going strong. Don't miss your exit.
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We’ll explore how Marie’s mix of spirituality, medicine, and maybe just a hint of witchcraft made her a legend that still haunts the French Quarter today.
So grab your lucky charms (no, not the cereal) and dive into an episode filled with magic, mystery, and the sassiest witch this side of the Mississippi. Tune in, because even centuries later, Marie Laveau’s spell is still going strong. Don't miss your exit.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Navigating to small town, USA cat shool workers for one on.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Halloween Italian.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hi, Carmen. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It's getting
a little bit spooky. I feel like up in here.
You know, I got my Halloween decorations out now, and
all my neighbors have their Halloween decorations, and you know,
I'm feeling kind of like in finally, even though it's
still hot, feeling a little bit like in the faw mood.
(00:57):
Buying some squash.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, my mom's been craving soup.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh yeah, who's another one? Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Hey, have you ever heard of Marie LeVaux Marie Lavell?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You know you said that before when we were talking
about witches, and I honestly haven't really heard of Marie Levo, Like,
I just had to start looking her up because I
was not sure of her story.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
She's probably one of the most talked about or famous,
if you will, witch's voodoo priestess in the United States.
And she was Yeah, she was born in eighteen zero one.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I don't like to say, oh one, I hate that.
She was born September tenth.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Eighteen zero one zero one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah. She died June fifteenth, eighteen eighty one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh wow, eighty years back then. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Back then, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Could it have been that she had special powers or
did she just take care of herself? She?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, so she was.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
She was actually seventy nine, just short of eighty when
she died.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
She died of natural causes.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I know a lot of people thought maybe it was childbirth,
but no, it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Was eighty years old. No, eighty, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm kidding. No, she did. She had, uh, she had
some kids.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
She she named one of her daughters Marie Levau the second,
which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
This is cool. Who does I a you know, like women,
you don't see you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I love that?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Though? Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Especially if you're a strong woman like Marie Levau. You
pack that kind of heat. Yeah yeah, yeah, pack those
balls in your cannon. You gotta.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
She also named uh a kid Marie Philamina Glafion, Felicity Paris,
and Marie Angelie Paris. So she had three daughter's named Marie.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think that's fantastic. George Foreman did it with his kids.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So yeah, but you know, you know why ray, just
so you can remember them all? Yes, Oh, Is that true.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think it's true. I don't know why else would
you do it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I think probably because you know, he's a boxer and
he wanted to carry on the family name.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And George is a cute name.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
What if he had a girl, what would you have.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Said, Georgiett Georgina. Georgina sounds a little bit like Budgina.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh yeah, true.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But Georgette is a cute name. Georgia not a.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Lot, There's just not a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Georgie, Porgie puddingham Pie.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
There are a lot of songs written about Marie Levo,
there are books about Marie Levo. She's mentioned in several movies.
She was she was considered a witch, a very powerful person.
So the house where she was raised by her mother
and her grandmother. Her mother's name was Marguerite, I think
(04:08):
is also a pretty beautiful name. They raised her in
the house where she grew up, raised her children, and
she would often open her home to people in need.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, doesn't sound like a mean witch at all.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Does it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah? Yeah, sounds very nice.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Something that's also very important. Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, And I think this might be where people think that,
like you know, witches do spells, to maintain or to
capture immense beauty and maintain it, you.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Know, right, Oh yeah, yeah, you see a lot of that.
I mean, I know, I mean I used to love
the movie hocus Pocus, and of course they were witches.
I still love it. I don't get me wrong. It's
one of my favorites. You know, you just have to
love it. And uh, they were, you know, suck in
the youth out of kids, of course, you know, to
stay young and beautiful and live forever.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But why not, really, I mean, there's a lot of kids.
There's a lot of kids, and not very many witches.
But so historians have described Marie Levo as a hazel eye,
dark skinned beauty, probably like me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
She was exceptionally beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
In fact, it is widely agreed upon by people that
knew her, and it has been written down in books
that she was incredibly beautiful, exceptionally beautiful. She married once
to a guy named Jacques Paris Jacques Y. So you know,
she's from Louisiana, she's from New Orleans, so you know,
(05:47):
there's a lot of French influence, obviously.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But there was also the you know, the.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
African influence and Native American influence.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know, it's just a melting pot for you know,
just like history really m hmmm.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
One thing I was I remember reading about you know
she she was because around that time, of course, there
was still slavery, right, and so I read that her mother,
I think she was a freed slave, and then she
was born free as well. I mean continued on. You know,
(06:24):
they were I'm not sure that they were necessarily respected.
I know there's more to the story you're going to tell,
but I know that it's just an interesting thing to
see in that area.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So I think if if people didn't respect her, I see,
I think probably people who knew Marie Leveaux and the
work she did had great respect for her, and people
that didn't feared her. So either way, she was probably safe.
She was a dedicated practitioner of voodoo.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Voodoo.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, she was a healer, a herbalist, and an entrepreneur.
She was a prominent female religious leader and community activist,
which is really strange for that time being being a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Black woman, you know, with a vagina. She also started
a beauty parlor and she did hair for the very
wealthy people of New Orleans. So she I mean, she.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Was just basically like our you know, a really notable
boss lady.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
A boss, like one of those what are they called.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know what would you call her. She was
like the CEO of the voodoo. She was the CEO
of her time.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Like if she was alive, sure she would be I
don't know, a president of her business.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, she would be. You're right, you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know, we've talked in the past about people white
men who don't understand things, so.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
They have to put a label on it.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And if they don't fear if they if they don't understand,
then some that leads to and rather than getting to
know something like midwiffery because she was also a midwife
oh okay, yeah, and an herbalist, you know, and those
kind of things freaked people out.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But she was also heavily involved in the in Roman Catholicism.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting to me that she was
very faithful in practiced Catholicism, but additionally was practicing voodoo
at the same time. And so I think a lot
of people had different I had mixed feelings about that,
because you know, she kind of became like that voodoo
(08:36):
queen and was also attending church with folks, So it's
just like kind of one of those things like, wow,
that's really interesting, but you know what, think about it.
Healing also has a lot to do with a lot
of people sometimes as spiritual faith, regardless of where you are,
So people are looking for that healing, whether that is
(08:57):
like spiritually or or medically. She was good and she
knew what types of herbs and things would really help somebody.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So do you think it's possible that, you know, because
she seems to be exceptionally bright, she would have been
exceptionally bright when she was alive, you know, being able
to do hair.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Put up with those people.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Being an herbalist is something that takes years to master.
You can kill people if you don't know. She was also,
you know, an activist and a spiritual leader, so she
had all of this talent. Do you think that's why
they maybe called her a witch because they didn't understand
it and it is hard for some especially during that time,
(09:45):
it would have been very difficult for men to sort
of accept a woman knowing way more than they did.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Can you imagine what the doctors must have thought of her?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I mean at that time, they were all probably all men, right,
so not only when you're going to a witch doctor,
I guess in a way, right, like they probably would
say the witch doctor, voodoo voodoo queen because she would
had alternative methods. The reason they were, you know, probably
(10:20):
not liking her so much just because she was a
woman and probably did not believe that women could could
do such a thing. The thing that I was reading
about is that the New Orleans voodoo particularly is the
only Afro Catholic religion to emerge in North America. It
was accepted as a Catholic religion because so that's what
(10:44):
she practiced. Yeah, so it was it fit very well
in her faith.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
She's buried in a Catholic cemetery.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
She's in a Catholic tomb, and people used to be
able to visit her tomb and make wishes and they
would draw so there's an X on her tomb, and
people would draw an X because it was believed if
you put an X there, they would leave bobby pins too,
like as an offering, so they could have their wishes
(11:13):
granted or have spells cast.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Even you know, years and years after her death, the
Roman Catholic Church had to close that area of the
cemetery in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So, I mean all these years, like twenty fifteen because
of vandalism.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah. I was just going to say, I bet it's
because people were not, you know, behaving as per normal lately.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, it's too bad that people feel like they have
to go and vandalize stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's really gross, honestly. I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And also, why in twenty fifteen did people think that
somebody as powerful as Marie LeVaux couldn't reach from the
grave and pull the tongue out of their living body.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Right, that's the last grave you want to disturb.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So the current, the current voodoo queen. And we'll talk
about this person in another episode is also named Leveau,
and is she related?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Could she be?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So Marie did practice conjuring? Okay, I was gonna ask,
So yeah, so there was.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There was there was conjuring, there was voodoo, and it's
noted as separate.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Separate things.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So I don't think people really understand voodoo.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I think, I mean, it's a fun word to say.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, It's just there's certain images that come into your head.
I think when someone says voodoo and to me, I
don't know why this. Probably this probably has nothing to
do with voodoo, but who knows. You know, obviously those
pincushion people right, like, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure
that it's part of some sort of voodoo ritual. And
(13:08):
then I don't know, this probably has nothing to do
but for some reason, the movies probably made me think
of this. But like shrunken heads, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What is the deal is?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
There are there shrunken heads in voodoo culture?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't I wouldn't know. I've never seen a shrunken head,
and I wouldn't even know how. Oh I do know how.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Actually, Okay, they take the skull out right, and after
then they ceased hopefully.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And then they have the skin and they you know,
sow the lips shut, and then they have like the head.
The skin naturally shrinks as it ages and it becomes hard.
And Voodoo in itself is a it's a religion.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It is a religion.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's African polytheism and ancestor worship, and it's practiced chiefly
in Haiti, so it's still a very active religion in
places like Haiti.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They say that a.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Person who practices voodoo can deal in spells and conjuring. So,
but it's not much different than other religions that also
worship idols. And you know, they don't call it. They
don't they don't call it idle worship. They don't call
it spell casting.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But sure, but yeah, it's it's very like I said, theistic, theistic, polytheistic.
I don't know how to say that word theistic. Yeah,
so you know, any religion that's like that, I don't know.
I think it's because we probably think about voodoo in
the Hollywood sense of voodoo, you know what I mean,
(14:54):
where we have those, like I said, those kind of
images that pop up of like those dark that dark
and I'm sure probably just like any religion has the
good and the bad, right that the light in the dark.
So you could probably practice as a voodoo is that
in the Voodha religion, the good stuff like healing people,
(15:16):
you know, being a good sybaritan, that kind of thing,
counseling people. But then there's probably folks who also practice
in the dark side, you know. Anyways, I'm assuming that's
probably true of people who practice voodoo too.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So in Louisiana, they there was questions like and this
was during the time of Marillovo's life.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So was voodoo illegal?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
They said, it was never actually banned from practice. However,
there were fears with the Caucasians that it would lead
to a slave rebellion, so they in eighteen seventeen they
issued an ordinance preventing slaves from dancing on days other
(16:07):
than on Sundays and in locations other than those specifically designated.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
For that purpose.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So I don't know what that would have been, but yeah,
so this is why, this is probably why a lot
of people that worshiped.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
In this way had to go in the dark. Yeah,
you know, they had to.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Go in the woods where they wouldn't be spotted, where
they wouldn't be punished for worshiping.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And I don't know that it helped the white men
at all, because.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
They're still getting sunburns, which has to be an evil spell.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know. I was thinking, I was trying to find
like what kinds of things she did to either help
people or or whatnot. And I did find a couple
areas where they listed that she actually had like ceremonies
where participants became possessed by a voodoo spirit or voodoo
(17:13):
spirits named laos Latin l A l o A s laos.
I don't know if that's correct, but she also gave
you know, charms and potions for a protection or whatever else.
You know, maybe love potions, I'm sure too. She also
saved several condemnedment from the gallows and told fortunes as
(17:36):
well as healed the sick. So, you know, when I
think about it that way, you know, she she did
a lot of good. Like I think probably what she
tried to do was pre people of color, you know,
I think that was probably a part of why she
was doing things. And I read right, I don't know
if it was a journalist or something during that time
that women in the evening would go in the dark
(18:02):
in a carriage or whatever it was. They get dropped
off at her house or her wherever her business, and
she would they would all want to know what she
was selling, you know. So it's kind of like the
secret thing where women they wouldn't talk about where they
were going, but they would go to her place and
see what like the newest thing she was selling was.
(18:25):
So it was kind of like this little secret club
in the dark that all the men were really not
liking so much. They didn't like what was happening there.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Well, if you'd think a somebody who's a spiritual healer
or somebody who practices conjuring midwiffery, somebody who's a healer. Right,
most most Christians believe in miracles, right, but they don't
expect it to They don't expect somebody that looked like
(18:58):
Marie Levau to be the conduit, right, or those miracles.
So instead of calling it a miracle, they had to
call it something bad.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You know, Yeah, it had the bad awful right.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Uh, it's it's just crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I mean, just reading about her, because you know, when
you're a little kid, you hear Marie Levau. If you
don't be careful, Marie Levo is going to kind of
snatch you from your bed, which never happened. And you know,
shame on parents for telling their kids.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, the kids like grow up with this very healthy
fear of witches.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right. I was fortunate enough not to we embraced witches
in our house.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well you know, I can't say that we did in
my house, but as you know, but there are practicing witches.
Now we call them witches, but here we have a
lot of different names for folks. Who would probably back
in the day, you know, be considered witches. Oh yeah, yeah,
(20:06):
that is. You know, it's so interesting that her story
is being told even today. And I believe there is
information about her daughter, Marie Lebo the second, and there's
some talk that she is the priestess, the voodoo priestess,
and it might just be a legend, but that she
(20:28):
was practicing after her mom passed away. She continued the
legend and the entrepreneurship really the sales of her mom
and kept those kind of like those secrets to herself
so she could make money. So she had all the recipes,
all the things that you know, she knew that worked
(20:50):
for healing, I'm sure, and other things and and what
women and other people really were wanting at that time,
and was able to keep that legend going. There's not
a whole lot of records on it, but it is
some a little bit. There is some documentation that she did.
She did have that later on too.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So all my life, I've wanted to just walk into
an old bookstore or like a thrift store, you know,
I still do. I don't. This is from the time
I was a little kid and see one of those
old books those giant old books. Just open it up
and you know, have like the magic just comes out.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I'm still hopeful. I'm still hopeful. I think that
it could happened. Why why not me?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean they had to get it from somewhere.
They must have seen this from somewhere, Like why is
that a thing? Why could you just do that? Walk
into a book or it opens up and all of
a sudden, you have these magical powers.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Magic spells.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Could you imagine if you could cast a spell today,
what would it be?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I think I have a lot. Some of it would
be totally selfish, but some of it would probably be
for good, you know, for the good of humanity right now? Yeah,
what about you?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, I you know, I probably the same. I think
if I.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Were able to cast a spell right this moment, it
would be a comfort spell.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, that's nice. I was thinking more along the lines
of like some real Wisconsin Wisconsin fried cheese girt, like
right here, right now, that's what I want.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
That's magic. That's not spell cast.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, sorry, sorry, okay, you need a wand for that
sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Oh right, Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
There's a difference. But yeah, I definitely would like a wand.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Too, because if I could do that, I would be
like and believe me, I could think, like, well, to
leave this room, I go out to my kitchen and
see like just a mountain of succulent crab legs.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Just put on a whole plastic suit and just roll
around in the buttered crab legs like an.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Animal, and then and then with your magic wand just
the mess is gone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's really the thing is. I would love if there's
a maybe it's a spell and maybe it's a twist
of a magic wand I don't know, but there needs
to be one for cleaning like that would be great.
That would be so great. House work, back yard work, whatever,
you know, all of it, all of it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, you know, just have a broom that goes around
the house dusting by itself.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Oh man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Funny thing about right up the street from my house
there's been a smushed broom in the intersection.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Did a witch get run over?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's what I'm thinking. It's not a very good room.
It's a in one of those.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Aluminum Okay, I mean it's probably pretty aerodynamic and light
for but that's I think that like the end part,
the broom part is good and they stick the ROOMSTICKI yeah,
isn't a stick if it's aluminum. The broom tube, the
broom tube where you sit to ride it is it's
(24:16):
it's fine, but at the end it's very it's smashed
and bit it got run over there. So if I
don't understand this is something I don't understand about. When
you see which is riding their room, why don't they
ride on the sweeping part.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It seems more comfortable, right.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, that's true. Like I think about like when you're
riding a bike, like a woman riding a bike, you
have a seat obviously, but you ever like actually fallen
off and like you know, boom right there on the
metal pole. Have you ever done that before? Like right
in front? You know, that's not a good feeling. So
like choosing the room to ride, who was the first
(24:57):
to come up with that? And maybe it's not a
broom Maybe they just I have a Mercedes, you know,
like they're not they don't need brooms these days.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know, you talk about falling on your bicycle and hitting.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That front part to the front part.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
For sure, some women might refer to it as their
undercarriage or their lady bits.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I got kicked right in my nuts once. Oh, my god,
And you know, I know it hurts men.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I know it's a very tender area, but it is
also tender for women.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
In your oh, in your channga, my god. I hit
my knees. I feel down.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And yeah, so all of that, all of the sensation
that men say, you know, stick to your stomach, like
like heat rising up your body into your chest.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's all there.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes, yes, I mean it's just nerves, you know, like
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
It's like it's called tender bits for a reason.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, it is. It is called it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I can't guess. She can't even say tender bits sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, I can't. I don't want to say tender.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's your front part.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah. Anyway, So I think what we should do is
maybe develop a more ergonomic sort of seat for brooms
if witches still want to ride around on them, you know.
And I think once a year it's probably a good idea,
Like right around Halloween, that's what I thought. I thought,
maybe this little this was probably I don't know, a
senior witch that was writing that room, you know, and
(26:35):
there's also a good possibility that it fell off of
somebody's truck, but.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Maybe being somethinglloween. Yeah, probably a witch. Yeah, probably a witch.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I was going to take a picture, but I didn't
want to get myself hit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So, Carmen, I have a few jokes about witches I
need to share with you. Okay, all right, you probably
will get some of these. You're pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So well, why did.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The witch give up fortune telling because she didn't see
any future in it?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What? By the way, these are dad jokes. Why do
witches stay in five star hotels? I don't know, because
of the excellent broom service.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Good one good?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
What was the witch's broom late?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It got hit by a car? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It overswept, Oh my goodness. Okay, last one, because these
are all very cheesy. What happened to the bad tempered witch?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
She flew off the handle?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Oh my gosh. Okay, so this is this is not
a joke, okay, but haitiened her for a male voodoo
priest is gonn oon.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Gone, and a female is called a mambo. Love that.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And then there's also the mambo number nine that that that.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I always liked a Mambo number nine because it had
Jessica in.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
A little bit of Jessica in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's the only one I know. So, you know, there's
very few songs with the name Carmen in it.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Really mm hmmm, I would think that Carmen, but no,
I guess, well.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
There's an opera. I got a whole opera named.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You did have a whole opera named after Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's quite an opera too. Yeah, oh yeah, I love
Triangles Jealousy. Yes, coming to a theater near you. But
there's one song that by the band, and it's The Weight.
The Weight is the name of the song, and there's
a line in it where he says, I picked up
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my bag and I went walking downtown, and I saw
Carmen and the Devil walking side by side, and I said, hey, Carmen,
why don't you come with me and go downtown. She said,
I've got to go, but my friend can stick around.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh that's a good that's a good line.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Carmen and the Devil.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Probably what they say when they see us walking around totally,
you know, because you look like you look like every
picture of an angel I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But you're funny. Well that's what makes us such fun
people to be around.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Also the magic Bonds. I got one in my pocket
right now. That was a that sounded weird.
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Speaker 2 (00:28):
Halloween Italian.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hi, Carmen. I'm doing good. I'm doing good. It's getting
a little bit spooky. I feel like up in here.
You know, I got my Halloween decorations out now, and
all my neighbors have their Halloween decorations, and you know,
I'm feeling kind of like in finally, even though it's
still hot, feeling a little bit like in the faw mood.
(00:57):
Buying some squash.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, yeah, my mom's been craving soup.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Oh yeah, who's another one? Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Hey, have you ever heard of Marie LeVaux Marie Lavell?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You know you said that before when we were talking
about witches, and I honestly haven't really heard of Marie Levo, Like,
I just had to start looking her up because I
was not sure of her story.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
She's probably one of the most talked about or famous,
if you will, witch's voodoo priestess in the United States.
And she was Yeah, she was born in eighteen zero one.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I don't like to say, oh one, I hate that.
She was born September tenth.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Eighteen zero one zero one.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah. She died June fifteenth, eighteen eighty one.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh wow, eighty years back then. That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Back then, I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Could it have been that she had special powers or
did she just take care of herself? She?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, so she was.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
She was actually seventy nine, just short of eighty when
she died.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
She died of natural causes.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I know a lot of people thought maybe it was childbirth,
but no, it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Was eighty years old. No, eighty, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I'm kidding. No, she did. She had, uh, she had
some kids.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
She she named one of her daughters Marie Levau the second,
which is awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
This is cool. Who does I a you know, like women,
you don't see you do that?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
I love that?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Though? Why not?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Why not?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Especially if you're a strong woman like Marie Levau. You
pack that kind of heat. Yeah yeah, yeah, pack those
balls in your cannon. You gotta.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
She also named uh a kid Marie Philamina Glafion, Felicity Paris,
and Marie Angelie Paris. So she had three daughter's named Marie.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think that's fantastic. George Foreman did it with his kids.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
So yeah, but you know, you know why ray, just
so you can remember them all? Yes, Oh, Is that true.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I think it's true. I don't know why else would
you do it.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I think probably because you know, he's a boxer and
he wanted to carry on the family name.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
And George is a cute name.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
What if he had a girl, what would you have.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Said, Georgiett Georgina. Georgina sounds a little bit like Budgina.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh yeah, true.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
But Georgette is a cute name. Georgia not a.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Lot, There's just not a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Georgie, Porgie puddingham Pie.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
There are a lot of songs written about Marie Levo,
there are books about Marie Levo. She's mentioned in several movies.
She was she was considered a witch, a very powerful person.
So the house where she was raised by her mother
and her grandmother. Her mother's name was Marguerite, I think
(04:08):
is also a pretty beautiful name. They raised her in
the house where she grew up, raised her children, and
she would often open her home to people in need.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, doesn't sound like a mean witch at all.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Does it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah? Yeah, sounds very nice.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Something that's also very important. Beautiful.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, And I think this might be where people think that,
like you know, witches do spells, to maintain or to
capture immense beauty and maintain it, you.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Know, right, Oh yeah, yeah, you see a lot of that.
I mean, I know, I mean I used to love
the movie hocus Pocus, and of course they were witches.
I still love it. I don't get me wrong. It's
one of my favorites. You know, you just have to
love it. And uh, they were, you know, suck in
the youth out of kids, of course, you know, to
stay young and beautiful and live forever.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
But why not, really, I mean, there's a lot of kids.
There's a lot of kids, and not very many witches.
But so historians have described Marie Levo as a hazel eye,
dark skinned beauty, probably like me.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
She was exceptionally beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
In fact, it is widely agreed upon by people that
knew her, and it has been written down in books
that she was incredibly beautiful, exceptionally beautiful. She married once
to a guy named Jacques Paris Jacques Y. So you know,
she's from Louisiana, she's from New Orleans, so you know,
(05:47):
there's a lot of French influence, obviously.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
But there was also the you know, the.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
African influence and Native American influence.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You know, it's just a melting pot for you know,
just like history really m hmmm.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
One thing I was I remember reading about you know
she she was because around that time, of course, there
was still slavery, right, and so I read that her mother,
I think she was a freed slave, and then she
was born free as well. I mean continued on. You know,
(06:24):
they were I'm not sure that they were necessarily respected.
I know there's more to the story you're going to tell,
but I know that it's just an interesting thing to
see in that area.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
So I think if if people didn't respect her, I see,
I think probably people who knew Marie Leveaux and the
work she did had great respect for her, and people
that didn't feared her. So either way, she was probably safe.
She was a dedicated practitioner of voodoo.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Voodoo.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, she was a healer, a herbalist, and an entrepreneur.
She was a prominent female religious leader and community activist,
which is really strange for that time being being a.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Black woman, you know, with a vagina. She also started
a beauty parlor and she did hair for the very
wealthy people of New Orleans. So she I mean, she.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Was just basically like our you know, a really notable
boss lady.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
A boss, like one of those what are they called.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know what would you call her. She was
like the CEO of the voodoo. She was the CEO
of her time.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Like if she was alive, sure she would be I
don't know, a president of her business.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, she would be. You're right, you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
You know, we've talked in the past about people white
men who don't understand things, so.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
They have to put a label on it.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And if they don't fear if they if they don't understand,
then some that leads to and rather than getting to
know something like midwiffery because she was also a midwife
oh okay, yeah, and an herbalist, you know, and those
kind of things freaked people out.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
But she was also heavily involved in the in Roman Catholicism.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's so interesting to me that she was
very faithful in practiced Catholicism, but additionally was practicing voodoo
at the same time. And so I think a lot
of people had different I had mixed feelings about that,
because you know, she kind of became like that voodoo
(08:36):
queen and was also attending church with folks, So it's
just like kind of one of those things like, wow,
that's really interesting, but you know what, think about it.
Healing also has a lot to do with a lot
of people sometimes as spiritual faith, regardless of where you are,
So people are looking for that healing, whether that is
(08:57):
like spiritually or or medically. She was good and she
knew what types of herbs and things would really help somebody.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So do you think it's possible that, you know, because
she seems to be exceptionally bright, she would have been
exceptionally bright when she was alive, you know, being able
to do hair.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Put up with those people.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Being an herbalist is something that takes years to master.
You can kill people if you don't know. She was also,
you know, an activist and a spiritual leader, so she
had all of this talent. Do you think that's why
they maybe called her a witch because they didn't understand
it and it is hard for some especially during that time,
(09:45):
it would have been very difficult for men to sort
of accept a woman knowing way more than they did.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Can you imagine what the doctors must have thought of her?
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
I mean at that time, they were all probably all men, right,
so not only when you're going to a witch doctor,
I guess in a way, right, like they probably would
say the witch doctor, voodoo voodoo queen because she would
had alternative methods. The reason they were, you know, probably
(10:20):
not liking her so much just because she was a
woman and probably did not believe that women could could
do such a thing. The thing that I was reading
about is that the New Orleans voodoo particularly is the
only Afro Catholic religion to emerge in North America. It
was accepted as a Catholic religion because so that's what
(10:44):
she practiced. Yeah, so it was it fit very well
in her faith.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
She's buried in a Catholic cemetery.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
She's in a Catholic tomb, and people used to be
able to visit her tomb and make wishes and they
would draw so there's an X on her tomb, and
people would draw an X because it was believed if
you put an X there, they would leave bobby pins too,
like as an offering, so they could have their wishes
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granted or have spells cast.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Even you know, years and years after her death, the
Roman Catholic Church had to close that area of the
cemetery in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So, I mean all these years, like twenty fifteen because
of vandalism.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah. I was just going to say, I bet it's
because people were not, you know, behaving as per normal lately.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah, it's too bad that people feel like they have
to go and vandalize stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's really gross, honestly. I mean.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
And also, why in twenty fifteen did people think that
somebody as powerful as Marie LeVaux couldn't reach from the
grave and pull the tongue out of their living body.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Right, that's the last grave you want to disturb.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So the current, the current voodoo queen. And we'll talk
about this person in another episode is also named Leveau,
and is she related?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Could she be?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
So Marie did practice conjuring? Okay, I was gonna ask,
So yeah, so there was.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
There was there was conjuring, there was voodoo, and it's
noted as separate.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Separate things.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
So I don't think people really understand voodoo.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I think, I mean, it's a fun word to say.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah, It's just there's certain images that come into your head.
I think when someone says voodoo and to me, I
don't know why this. Probably this probably has nothing to
do with voodoo, but who knows. You know, obviously those
pincushion people right, like, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure
that it's part of some sort of voodoo ritual. And
(13:08):
then I don't know, this probably has nothing to do
but for some reason, the movies probably made me think
of this. But like shrunken heads, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
What is the deal is?
Speaker 1 (13:22):
There are there shrunken heads in voodoo culture?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I don't I wouldn't know. I've never seen a shrunken head,
and I wouldn't even know how. Oh I do know how.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Actually, Okay, they take the skull out right, and after
then they ceased hopefully.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
And then they have the skin and they you know,
sow the lips shut, and then they have like the head.
The skin naturally shrinks as it ages and it becomes hard.
And Voodoo in itself is a it's a religion.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It is a religion.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's African polytheism and ancestor worship, and it's practiced chiefly
in Haiti, so it's still a very active religion in
places like Haiti.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They say that a.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Person who practices voodoo can deal in spells and conjuring. So,
but it's not much different than other religions that also
worship idols. And you know, they don't call it. They
don't they don't call it idle worship. They don't call
it spell casting.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
But sure, but yeah, it's it's very like I said, theistic, theistic, polytheistic.
I don't know how to say that word theistic. Yeah,
so you know, any religion that's like that, I don't know.
I think it's because we probably think about voodoo in
the Hollywood sense of voodoo, you know what I mean,
(14:54):
where we have those, like I said, those kind of
images that pop up of like those dark that dark
and I'm sure probably just like any religion has the
good and the bad, right that the light in the dark.
So you could probably practice as a voodoo is that
in the Voodha religion, the good stuff like healing people,
(15:16):
you know, being a good sybaritan, that kind of thing,
counseling people. But then there's probably folks who also practice
in the dark side, you know. Anyways, I'm assuming that's
probably true of people who practice voodoo too.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So in Louisiana, they there was questions like and this
was during the time of Marillovo's life.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So was voodoo illegal?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
They said, it was never actually banned from practice. However,
there were fears with the Caucasians that it would lead
to a slave rebellion, so they in eighteen seventeen they
issued an ordinance preventing slaves from dancing on days other
(16:07):
than on Sundays and in locations other than those specifically designated.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
For that purpose.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So I don't know what that would have been, but yeah,
so this is why, this is probably why a lot
of people that worshiped.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
In this way had to go in the dark. Yeah,
you know, they had to.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Go in the woods where they wouldn't be spotted, where
they wouldn't be punished for worshiping.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And I don't know that it helped the white men
at all, because.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
They're still getting sunburns, which has to be an evil spell.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
You know. I was thinking, I was trying to find
like what kinds of things she did to either help
people or or whatnot. And I did find a couple
areas where they listed that she actually had like ceremonies
where participants became possessed by a voodoo spirit or voodoo
(17:13):
spirits named laos Latin l A l o A s laos.
I don't know if that's correct, but she also gave
you know, charms and potions for a protection or whatever else.
You know, maybe love potions, I'm sure too. She also
saved several condemnedment from the gallows and told fortunes as
(17:36):
well as healed the sick. So, you know, when I
think about it that way, you know, she she did
a lot of good. Like I think probably what she
tried to do was pre people of color, you know,
I think that was probably a part of why she
was doing things. And I read right, I don't know
if it was a journalist or something during that time
that women in the evening would go in the dark
(18:02):
in a carriage or whatever it was. They get dropped
off at her house or her wherever her business, and
she would they would all want to know what she
was selling, you know. So it's kind of like the
secret thing where women they wouldn't talk about where they
were going, but they would go to her place and
see what like the newest thing she was selling was.
(18:25):
So it was kind of like this little secret club
in the dark that all the men were really not
liking so much. They didn't like what was happening there.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Well, if you'd think a somebody who's a spiritual healer
or somebody who practices conjuring midwiffery, somebody who's a healer. Right,
most most Christians believe in miracles, right, but they don't
expect it to They don't expect somebody that looked like
(18:58):
Marie Levau to be the conduit, right, or those miracles.
So instead of calling it a miracle, they had to
call it something bad.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You know, Yeah, it had the bad awful right.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Uh, it's it's just crazy.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I mean, just reading about her, because you know, when
you're a little kid, you hear Marie Levau. If you
don't be careful, Marie Levo is going to kind of
snatch you from your bed, which never happened. And you know,
shame on parents for telling their kids.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Yeah, the kids like grow up with this very healthy
fear of witches.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right. I was fortunate enough not to we embraced witches
in our house.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Well you know, I can't say that we did in
my house, but as you know, but there are practicing witches.
Now we call them witches, but here we have a
lot of different names for folks. Who would probably back
in the day, you know, be considered witches. Oh yeah, yeah,
(20:06):
that is. You know, it's so interesting that her story
is being told even today. And I believe there is
information about her daughter, Marie Lebo the second, and there's
some talk that she is the priestess, the voodoo priestess,
and it might just be a legend, but that she
(20:28):
was practicing after her mom passed away. She continued the
legend and the entrepreneurship really the sales of her mom
and kept those kind of like those secrets to herself
so she could make money. So she had all the recipes,
all the things that you know, she knew that worked
(20:50):
for healing, I'm sure, and other things and and what
women and other people really were wanting at that time,
and was able to keep that legend going. There's not
a whole lot of records on it, but it is
some a little bit. There is some documentation that she did.
She did have that later on too.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
So all my life, I've wanted to just walk into
an old bookstore or like a thrift store, you know,
I still do. I don't. This is from the time
I was a little kid and see one of those
old books those giant old books. Just open it up
and you know, have like the magic just comes out.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, I'm still hopeful. I'm still hopeful. I think that
it could happened. Why why not me?
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean they had to get it from somewhere.
They must have seen this from somewhere, Like why is
that a thing? Why could you just do that? Walk
into a book or it opens up and all of
a sudden, you have these magical powers.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Magic spells.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Could you imagine if you could cast a spell today,
what would it be?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I think I have a lot. Some of it would
be totally selfish, but some of it would probably be
for good, you know, for the good of humanity right now? Yeah,
what about you?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, I you know, I probably the same. I think
if I.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Were able to cast a spell right this moment, it
would be a comfort spell.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, that's nice. I was thinking more along the lines
of like some real Wisconsin Wisconsin fried cheese girt, like
right here, right now, that's what I want.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
That's magic. That's not spell cast.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Okay, sorry, sorry, okay, you need a wand for that
sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Oh right, Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
There's a difference. But yeah, I definitely would like a wand.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Too, because if I could do that, I would be
like and believe me, I could think, like, well, to
leave this room, I go out to my kitchen and
see like just a mountain of succulent crab legs.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Wouldn't that be great?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Just put on a whole plastic suit and just roll
around in the buttered crab legs like an.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Animal, and then and then with your magic wand just
the mess is gone. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
That's really the thing is. I would love if there's
a maybe it's a spell and maybe it's a twist
of a magic wand I don't know, but there needs
to be one for cleaning like that would be great.
That would be so great. House work, back yard work, whatever,
you know, all of it, all of it.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, you know, just have a broom that goes around
the house dusting by itself.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Oh man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Funny thing about right up the street from my house
there's been a smushed broom in the intersection.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Did a witch get run over?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's what I'm thinking. It's not a very good room.
It's a in one of those.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Aluminum Okay, I mean it's probably pretty aerodynamic and light
for but that's I think that like the end part,
the broom part is good and they stick the ROOMSTICKI yeah,
isn't a stick if it's aluminum. The broom tube, the
broom tube where you sit to ride it is it's
(24:16):
it's fine, but at the end it's very it's smashed
and bit it got run over there. So if I
don't understand this is something I don't understand about. When
you see which is riding their room, why don't they
ride on the sweeping part.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
It seems more comfortable, right.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, that's true. Like I think about like when you're
riding a bike, like a woman riding a bike, you
have a seat obviously, but you ever like actually fallen
off and like you know, boom right there on the
metal pole. Have you ever done that before? Like right
in front? You know, that's not a good feeling. So
like choosing the room to ride, who was the first
(24:57):
to come up with that? And maybe it's not a
broom Maybe they just I have a Mercedes, you know,
like they're not they don't need brooms these days.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know, you talk about falling on your bicycle and hitting.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
That front part to the front part.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
For sure, some women might refer to it as their
undercarriage or their lady bits.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I got kicked right in my nuts once. Oh, my god,
And you know, I know it hurts men.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I know it's a very tender area, but it is
also tender for women.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
In your oh, in your channga, my god. I hit
my knees. I feel down.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
And yeah, so all of that, all of the sensation
that men say, you know, stick to your stomach, like
like heat rising up your body into your chest.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
It's all there.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yes, yes, I mean it's just nerves, you know, like
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
It's like it's called tender bits for a reason.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, it is. It is called it.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
I can't guess. She can't even say tender bits sleep.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
No, I can't. I don't want to say tender.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
It's your front part.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah. Anyway, So I think what we should do is
maybe develop a more ergonomic sort of seat for brooms
if witches still want to ride around on them, you know.
And I think once a year it's probably a good idea,
Like right around Halloween, that's what I thought. I thought,
maybe this little this was probably I don't know, a
senior witch that was writing that room, you know, and
(26:35):
there's also a good possibility that it fell off of
somebody's truck, but.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Maybe being somethinglloween. Yeah, probably a witch. Yeah, probably a witch.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I was going to take a picture, but I didn't
want to get myself hit. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
So, Carmen, I have a few jokes about witches I
need to share with you. Okay, all right, you probably
will get some of these. You're pretty smart.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
So well, why did.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
The witch give up fortune telling because she didn't see
any future in it?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
What? By the way, these are dad jokes. Why do
witches stay in five star hotels? I don't know, because
of the excellent broom service.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Good one good?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
What was the witch's broom late?
Speaker 2 (27:31):
It got hit by a car? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It overswept, Oh my goodness. Okay, last one, because these
are all very cheesy. What happened to the bad tempered witch?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
She flew off the handle?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Oh my gosh. Okay, so this is this is not
a joke, okay, but haitiened her for a male voodoo
priest is gonn oon.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Gone, and a female is called a mambo. Love that.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
And then there's also the mambo number nine that that that.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
I always liked a Mambo number nine because it had
Jessica in.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
A little bit of Jessica in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's the only one I know. So, you know, there's
very few songs with the name Carmen in it.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Really mm hmmm, I would think that Carmen, but no,
I guess, well.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
There's an opera. I got a whole opera named.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
You did have a whole opera named after Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
It's quite an opera too. Yeah, oh yeah, I love
Triangles Jealousy. Yes, coming to a theater near you. But
there's one song that by the band, and it's The Weight.
The Weight is the name of the song, and there's
a line in it where he says, I picked up
(29:05):
my bag and I went walking downtown, and I saw
Carmen and the Devil walking side by side, and I said, hey, Carmen,
why don't you come with me and go downtown. She said,
I've got to go, but my friend can stick around.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh that's a good that's a good line.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Carmen and the Devil.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Probably what they say when they see us walking around totally,
you know, because you look like you look like every
picture of an angel I've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
But you're funny. Well that's what makes us such fun
people to be around.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Also the magic Bonds. I got one in my pocket
right now. That was a that sounded weird.
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