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Caution shuel markers for how are weget Hello Jessica, Hey Carbon,
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how are you today? I'm doinggood? Today. Today was a day
with like no labor for myself.Really, that's great. Yeah, I
didn't have any laboring at all,no word. Yeah, No, I
did actually do some work around thehouse okay, cleaned out the old hot
tub, getting ready for winter.Today is a labor day, or as
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some people might say, labor day, labor I don't know if you would
say that, but I don't knoweither. Labor day. Yeah, and
it's also Freddie Mercury's birthday. Ohreally, yes, yeah, that's the
only time you'll ever see me salutethe Queen the band Queen the band Queen.
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Yeah. Yeah, because when Iwas a kid, I don't really
remember a lot of big labor Daycelebrations. How did your family celebrate labors?
Labor Day, not Labor's Day,labors laborers day. Laborers Day would
be that's really what it should be, probably Laborer's Day. To me,
it kind of sounds like when yousay labor day, like everybody's working day,
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you know, not the opposite,or like a lot of people are
having babies or yeah, everybody's inlabor today, everybody. There's some babies
born on labor Day. I'm sure, I'm sure there are. I'm sure
there's babies. What every day?Jeez, what a day to celebrate Labor
day? On a labor day?Right? Yeah? What if all the
doctors took the day off? Yeah, that would be that. Huh,
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actually, what if all the nursestook the day off, because yeah,
really it's the nurses. I don'tever remember going anywhere. There was not
really a huge celebration in where Igrew up or even in my family,
So Labor Day in my history andmy family kind of got lost, and
I think the meeting really felt lostto you know, my head. I
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was kind of like, what isLabor Day? Like, what the heck
is it all about? Because it'sjust a day off, Like I didn't
have to go to school, myparents didn't have to go to work.
Well, some did still have togo to work, of course, and
we can talk about that later,but yeah, I just it just felt
like it was just a day wherewe got to not go to school.
For us. I think probably becauseI when I was a teenager, my
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mom was working. No Labor Daywas intended for people to come together one
day year and really have discussion abouthow they can create a more fair and
equitable working environment for all of thepeople that were actually you know, the
blood, sweat and tears of America, the people who are really putting in
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the hard work. They were buildingrailroads, they were working the railroads,
they were working, the factories,they were making everything, they were building,
the buildings and the houses and theroads and everything that we kind of
take for granted now, not granted. Granted. It sounded like granted,
but I said granted, and theywas. It was intended to really let
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those people have a voice in theirjobs and you know, how they were
treated at their jobs, and tohave us say in it instead of their
bosses and company owners just getting richeroff the blood, sweat and tears and
a lot of times the lives ofthe working man, and it's it hasn't
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really changed, you know. SoI think there were really good intentions.
People had good intentions, and theywere really radical thinkers for the time.
You know, they started unionizing andthe unions were strengthening again after the recession
in it was like eighteen seventy something. I wasn't I wasn't really paid a
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lot of attention back then or inschool, but you know, it's like
this stuff is more important to menow. Yeah, it didn't really mean
crap to me when I was insocial studies. You know, in eighth
grade, it's like whatever, Wellas you cover it so quickly, you
know, what I mean, Like, you go through that period of time
pretty fast. It was the IndustrialRevolution, and you'll hear about that.
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You hear about how great that was, but you really don't understand the types
of work environments and stuff that werehappening during that period of time and what
really made the Industrial Revolution the Revolutionof America, right, Like what really
produced were really moved us forward,But it was a lot of people who
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were not treated well. Right,People were afraid to celebrate, and also
people were very afraid to join.I mean, you know how people freak
out now and they always have thoseanti union discussions at jobs, even though
they're not they're not anti union becausethat would be illegal, but what they
are is just telling you all theall the wonderful reasons you don't need a
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union, and it's like whatever,you know, but the union scared people
and they and people were afraid tojoin because they would lose their jobs.
They were so afraid. And itwas also a violent time for some of
the people that were more radical andprotesting and doing those things. And it's
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just so sad when I started readingabout this, things really haven't changed.
So when we, you know,finally really put our foot down and said,
you know, we are not goingto allow children to work in your
freaking chimneys and your factories. Kidsneed to go to school, and they
also need a healthy diet, andeverybody gets shoes. You know. When
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they started making crazy laws like thatand fair labor laws and environmental laws things
to really protect citizens of the UnitedStates, these really wealthy people and companies
just started outsourcing to other countries wherethe laws aren't as strict. So it's
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an issue that is still an issuetoday. It sure is like all of
this stuff is still an issue.You know, if we think about labor
laws. Yes, you know women, women can work, but female doctors
make less than male doctors. Eventhough they go to the same amount of
school, they do the same thing, they make less than male doctors.
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Why isn't that something we should betalking about on Labor Day? Yeah,
for sure. So that's what LaborDay was intended. It was so people
could come together one day a yearwithout worrying about losing their job. They
could have celebrations, they could havea parade, and also brainstorm wonderful ideas
on how to approve the working environment. I don't think it's about idea to
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start doing it aget. You know, I just talked to my daughter about
how it was a holiday, andshe goes, is Santa coming? And
I said, well, no,she doesn't understand that holidays can be not
something that's as exciting necessarily as aEaster or a Halloween or a Christmas for
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instance. That you know, holidayshave other meanings as well, and trying
to be able to explain that toursvery hard. It probably is even more
challenging when it really doesn't have meaninganymore, you know, if there's not
candy involved. Yeah, I alsothink we should probably have a special candy
next year for Labor Day. Itcan't be anything really exciting because you know,
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this is a somewhat somber holiday.Yeah, probably like one of those
large TWITSI rolls. It has tobe something that, yeah, to work
work on a little bit. Yeah, to get out a bit of honey,
A bit o honey. A bitof honeys are good. They're hard
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to chew. It's hard to justget him out of the paper, Like
you have to eat that little bitof wax paper every time. What's that
fruit chew? That's not a starburst? That's like the worst now would later?
Oh my god? Yeah that okay, so there you go. Now
and later is the perfect candy forLabor Day. Okay. I think Dennis
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invented those because I told when Iwas a kid. Yeah, two candies,
two fillings out with now and later. I don't know what it is.
It's like a magnet is somehow insidethose chewies and it attaches to your
your feelings, yeah, and rollsout every thing. Yeah. And they're
sharp and they're chewy not not holesin the roof of your mouth and rip
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your gums off. The kids,man, they tear into it. And
have you ever seen a kid likeeating one of those big fist sized twotsy
rolls? First of god, yeah, and then it's like, first of
all, it looks like, yeah, it looks like they're holding a cat
turn. And second it just getsall over the place. It's like somebody
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squirted them with chocolate syrup and it'ssquishing around there and it just looks brown
and gross, and sometimes it justsquirts out when they chew bite down.
Yes, yes, it's very juicyfor some reason. How did it end
up that juice mouse? It's mouthsof juicy because Twotsie rolls have no liquid
in them. I mean, mygod, they're like aren't they just candles
with chocolate flavor? I think?So? You know, you can use
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them in a pinch if you gocamping. He probably good. You can
tie a shoe string to it andthen use it as a candle. Wrap
it around a shoe string and lightIt probably would work. It might just
get word. Have you ever heardof May Day? Yeah, so most
other countries actually celebrate what's called InternationalWorkers Day or May Day instead of Labor
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Day. I like the May Daythat is celebrated by bringing people baskets of
flowers, May baskets, you know. I just want to say, April
showers, bring May flowers. Butnot in Arizona. But then it's like
May fifth, that's already sinking tomile and I just exhausted. So no,
but that's not the same May Day. No, it's not. Yeah.
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The theory about why we can't wearwhite you mentioned this before after Labor
Day is really highly debated and Inever thought about it before, like why
can't you wear Like where did itcome from? So there's actually three different
theories out there. The first theoryis based on class distinction. Oh,
I knew that in the early nineteenhundreds. Yeah, that one is something
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that they say. Well, whiteclothing was clearly an upper class luxury.
After the Civil War, it becameharder to distinguish woman from the old money
or new money, so ladies inthe higher class in order to kind of
read them out or know who theywere. It was kind of out of
place to wear white after labor Day. So the second theory speaks more like
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practical labor day is the end ofsummer seasons, so therefore no light summery
clothes are are needed anymore. Okay, so no light clothing, no white
clothing. What do you wear flannel? I guess, you know. I
think now it's become you know,popular to just wear whatever you want.
And they also came out with differentclothes, different colors of white that you
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could wear during the winter. Sure, you know, winter white, because
isn't it luxurious to have a beautifullike just a cream white cashmere sweater?
And where that was some nice Ithink one of the reasons, and this
is not listed in here for notto wear white, you know, after
labor day, is possibly you couldget hit by a snowplow. If you're
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walking wearing white in the water,it actually seems legitimate where I come from.
Yeah, you don't wear white,you get mistaken for snow a snow
bank. Yeah, that makes sense. The last reason is actually just due
to fashion magazines kind of picking upand promoting Labor Day as a trend again
with the light clothing. Not towear that anymore, but Michael Core states
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that just please ignore the rules.White after Labor Day is glamorous x x
MK. I don't wear a lotof white anyway. No, I,
like you said before, I havenever been able to pull off of white
pants. Like what underwear can youeven wear with white pants? You wear
flesh colored underwear. Yeah, youcan't even wear white underwear obviously, like
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shows up like, oh super white, you wear flesh colored underwear. So
whatever color your flesh is is thecolor you should wear. If you have
dark skin, you should wear darkunderwear. Oh, mine is practically white.
You could probably wear white these,Jessica, I've seen you in shorts.
I have to wear a blush ora cream colored panty' if we're gonna
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be specific in personal so Labor Day, ironically, as you mentioned before,
causes some of the longest working hoursfor retail workers. That's an interesting and
very true fact. Labor Day weekendactually is notorious for having crazy sales.
That means that retail workers that takeup to six percent of this country's employment
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system have to work longer hours ona day especially dedicated to labor appreciation.
Right, it's very ironic. Nowthere are other professionals including correctional officers,
nurses, firefighters. You know,you can't take the day off if you're
a firefighter. I mean, comeon, very ironic. The real working
people are still working on this day. And you know, here's another thing
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that the Labor Day was intended tocreate a system where the workers had more
of a voice, like I saidearlier, but what has happened now is
people feel so good when they getyou know, the slightest increase at their
job or a raise, when infact, all they're doing is just tacking
on more responsibilities like your raise,your merit increase should be just that,
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there should be no added responsibilities.It should be you've done this for this
long and you've earned this right boom. You've been here for this long without
any you know, fatal errors hereyou've earned this, but instead it's like
you, people in so many fieldshave to promote to get that next level
of salary, and then they findthemselves taking home so much work that they're
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never really off. So I betyou, I bet you people who were
really off today, you know,we're still doing work on their computers,
still answering emails, still doing allof those things, which is not it's
not fair. No, no,there really needs to be a day when
people just don't work. I thinknext year we should plan ahead. We
should challenge our fellow Americans and smalltowns everywhere to come up with an at
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least one new law to support workingAmericans. Yes, to support working people
everywhere, something that will benefit thecommon person in the world. And also,
we're going to think of a candy. Maybe it'll be better than a
twitty roll. It's better being betterthan an hour later. Yeah, maybe
it'll be something delicious. Maybe it'llbe like a roller. I like a
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zotsts. I like that, youknow, very like sweet and then kind
of spicy finish, well, tangysour spicyes finish, a foamy sour finish.
Yeah, its like a little likea tang like a like a spark.
Oh yeah, it's like a littlespark in your mouth. It's like
a little firework explosion. Is atthe end of Fizzy's hardness? Yeah?
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Is your mouth water in a littlebit a little bit? Yeah, I
think taste the tart ralroady, yeah, right in my cheek. Yeah,
we could do that. That wouldbe great. Yeah, I think.
Okay, So we'll think about that, and I would like to ask people
to please send us an email orlook us up on Instagram, Twitter and
give us your ideas of what shouldbe the Labor Day candy. Yeah,
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what kind of candy represents Labor Day? And what would that taste like?
And would that be that kind ofmouth feel would Labor Day candy be?
You know how like an Easter,everybody has a lamb or a ham.
Do they do that because it rhymes? I don't think so. I don't
think. Okay, great. Ithink Labor Day is more like I hate
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to say it, but hot Dogthe end of like hot Dog season.
So hot Dog might be like theofficial hot Dog season. Yeah it is.
Actual Labor Day is actually recorded asthe last official hot Dog season.
Day. You're full of it.No, I'm not a day I know
me too, but says on theNational hot Dog and Sausage Council website,
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I ought to work for that company. I wonder if they have today off?
Do you really want to work forthe National hot Dog and Sausage Association.
Can you imagine how the office smells. They probably have good lunches.
They probably just try to stick wienersin your mouth every day. It's probably
all men. Also just saying,I don't think there's many many women at
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work at the National hot Dog andSausage Council well, because it would be
healthier, you know that it wouldbe like lots of chicken and turkey sausage.
Today for sure, is for mejust Freddie Mercury's birthday, and I'm
really thankful that my employer gave methe day off to celebrate Freddie Mercury.
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I'm really thankful that I did getthe day off to be with my family.
So both my husband and my daughterhave today off, though it was
an extra day to be able tospend with them, and we do a
appreciate that. I don't think thatmy day was labor less necessarily, but
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it was definitely a day off frommy job. And here we are,
you know, podcasting, right,But this is more of a labor of
love. It is a labor oflove. Anyway, I am going to
go celebrate the rest of my laborday with my family. You made me
feel bad, Jessica. You hadsuch a sweet, tender moment. I'm
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like labor day. I'm gonna goget my husband a kiss. And also
very serious question, will you tryone of those squirrel suits with me?
Squirrel suits? What are you talkingabout? You put on the squirrel suit
and you jump off a cliff.Oh you mean the flying squirrel Think I'm
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a jink. Yes, I don'tthink so. I'm not doing that.
But you have a parachute too,well, sure, but you know I
just read about somebody dying from pullingthe parachute a little too late, and
that would be me. That wouldbe me. Why would you wait to
pull your parachute, Jessica. Ithink some people misjudge and two seconds,
I think we might be early ejectorson the parachutee I would be for sure,
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for sure. I mean I mightnot even be able to get sore
it in my squirrel suit because Iwould be so ready on that string or
trigger. Poll or whatever the heckit is. I'm sure I don't wait
too long, because I've waited toolong for a few things, like returning
items to the store, you knowwhat. Not going to make that mistake
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with a parachute, no, no, oh no, But but like,
how do you know when it's toolate? Like, there's definitely a point
where it's too late on a parachute, And I would it might be might
be quicker than you think. Well, I'm yeah, I would say you're
probably if you're like heavier, I'msure it's going to be quicker than for
somebody who's really light and just getscarried off by the wind a little bit.
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But you know, they do,they do have scientists who do these
sort of readings and they can tellyou at what speed you will fall to
the Earth because of the gravitational whole. I'm not making that ship up now.
Okay, Look, you would maybeto tell people that, like,
here's the speed in which I fallfrom the Earth instead of my weight fall
to the right. Yes, thatis a good well, I would fallow
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this fact. If I jumped outof an airplane at let's say this many
thousand feet, I would fall throughthe earth. In this many seconds,
So Jessica, the answer is no, Yeah, Recuren too, my turney.
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As you may know, this weekincludes the holiday named Labor Day.
Now, many of us have stayoff and others are supporting the myriad of
shops and the stores searching for sales. But what is Labor Day and why
is it so important that we havecreated a national holiday around it. I'm
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willing to bet that if you askedyour neighbor, your friends, or family
what Labor Day is and what itstands for, every person will give you
a different answer. There are eventhose people who could use it with another
holiday. So other than the muchneeded four day weekend, why do we
celebrate the first Monday in September.Labor Day, according to the Department of
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Labor, is a celebration of thesocial and economic achievements of American workers.
It was adopted more recognizably in thelate nineteenth century, when activists pushed for
a federal holiday to pay tribute tothe numerous contributions workers have made to America's
strength, prosperity, and well being. However, it was not always a
federal holiday, and not every statepracticed Labor Day. In eighteen eighty seven,
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Oregon was the first to pass alaw introducing it as a holiday.
Then four more states followed that year, and by the end of the decade,
three more states had joined. Byeighteen ninety four, twenty three states
adopted the holiday. That year.In June, Congress passed in act making
the first Monday in September of eachyear a legal holiday. Now there's some
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controversy around who started Labor Day.One record reports that Peter Jay McGuire,
the General Secretary of the Brotherhood ofCarpenters and Joiners also co founder of the
American Federation of Labor, suggested thatthere be a day set aside for the
laboring classes and to honor those ata quote who from rude nature have delved
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and carved all the grandeur we behope. Another record shows that it was Matthew
Mugguier, a machinist, that foundedthe holiday. Prior to him becoming a
secretary of the local three hundred andforty fourth of the International Association of Machinists
in Power in New Jersey, Matthewwas serving as a secretary of the Central
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Labor Union in New York. Whilein New York in eighteen eighty two,
it was said that Matthew proposed theholiday, and after President Cleveland signed a
law creating the national holiday, ThePatterson Morning Call in New Jersey stated in
an opinion piece, quote, thesouvenir pen should go to Alderman Matthew McGuire
of the city, who is theundisputed author of Labor Day as a holiday.
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American celebrate Labor Day with parades,picnics, parties, and festivals.
Also speeches by prominent men and womenare accustomed to Labor Day with an emphasis
on the economic and civil significance ofthe holiday. In nineteen o nine,
the Sunday preceding Labor Day was adoptedas Labor Sunday and is dedicated to the
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spiritual and educational aspects of the labormovement. So why Labor Day? American
labor has elevated the nation's standard ofliving and contributed to the greatest production the
world has ever known. The labormovement has brought us closer to the realization
of our traditional ideals of economic andpolitical democracy. Because of this, the
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nation should pay tribute to all themen and women of today, yesterday,
and tomorrow, the true creators ofAmerica's strength, freedom, and leadership.
To truly understand why Labor Day isso important, we have to take a
look at the state of American laborin our history. Labor Day's birth took
place in a very gloomy time.During this time, the Industrial Revolution was
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at its height. If you werean average American worker during this time in
history, you would be working twelvehours a day, seven days a week.
The reason you had to work tous much just to make do.
And even though there were some restrictionsthat states had passed, children as young
as five or six years old,were working in factories, mines, and
mills, being paid only a fractionof what the adults earned. On top
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of that, if your family waspoor or if you were a recent immigrant,
you often encountered extremely unsafe working conditions. This meant that you may not
have sufficient access to fresh air,bathrooms, and little to no breaks.
Now, as you can imagine,many workers died or got very ill or
even hurt while working. If youwere unable to work because you became ill
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or injured, there were no protectionsin place for you. You often lost
your job. Manufacturing ousted over andover again, agriculture as the source of
American employment. This, along withthe state of American labor, as we
mentioned, brought on more prominent andvocal labor unions. They started organizing strikes
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and rallies to protest these conditions thatworkers were working in and try to convince
employers to renegotiate hours and pay.The strikes and rallies often ended up violent.
A famous riot, the Haymarker Riotof eighteen eighty six, was held
in Chicago and many policemen and workerswere killed. Some strikes and rallies gave
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way to traditions, including a paradeon September fifth in New York City where
ten thousand workers took unpaid time offto march from City Hall to Union Square.
This was the first true Labor Dayparade. The event that seemed to
turn the tide for the labor movementand brought workers rights squarely into the public's
view involved employees of the Pullman PalaceCar Company in Chicago. On May eleventh,
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eighteen ninety four, the workers ofthe Pullman Palace Car Company went into
strike to protest the wage cuts andthe firing of the union representatives. So
on June twenty sixth, the AmericanRailroad Union called for a boycott on all
Pullman railway cars, crippling the railroadtraffic across the nation. The federal government
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stepped in and dispatched troops to Chicago, which then in turn unleashed a wave
of riots. There were for adozen worker deaths. So Labor Day is
not just a day off. It'sa day to gather and talk to address
the issues that face laborer workers today. And while we have come a long
way, there's still brown to cover. There are many who are still working
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for less than minimum wage. Thereare women being paid less than men.
There are new types of working environmentsin spaces that are unsafe and harmful.
For those of you who are fortunateenough to have the day off, go
talk be heard. Thanks everyone forjoining us today on small Town USA.
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