Give Thanks to the Ancestors [EP 90]

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We have a long ass show today.

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and I cannot wait to head out on this second
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say it like that every time, but little more Merlin.

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I'm very excited. Okay, I'm very excited. And yeah, so I'm.

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Looking forward to.

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Really getting to to continue these conversations, but like figuring
out how to make sure that they're not just conversations,
but that they're actions. So that's that's what I'm that's
what I'm looking forward to doing.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Okay, So we have the.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Africa Tappen coming up, and I took a lot of
time to organize. I don't know why I said organize
to create an Africa Tappen intro and I have not.
And then I realized that it wasn't like in the
correct format. And so I'm literally, as I'm talking to

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you all, trying some multitask and get it in the
right format. And I appreciate that you guys are letting
me do that because it's very real and I you
all know that I don't play about my wanting things
to be correct. Okay about wanting things to be correct.

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I wrote a poem last night. Why can't I access
this image?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Okay? Sorry?

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What so while I'm doing this, let's do this. While
I'm doing this, let's do this.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Questions question question.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So the bonus question this week is how and when
did you learn that thanks taking well, we'll call it
thanksgiving for the sake of this context. How and when
did you learn the thanksgiving was not.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
What you were taught in school?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Shout out to all of our replay folks, hey, replay crew,
and shout out to all of our folks listening on
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the comments below. So, I am very stressed out right

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now because.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You really want you all to get this Africa.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Tappy, I'm really want this Africa's happened to happen, and
I am dying. I'm really dying because I need it
to happen. So just just let me focus on this
for a second.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Why you all do that? I'll face some music.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
No m.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
M.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Thank you guys for letting the do Thank you guys,
for letting me do that. I thank you.

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Guys are the best and not y'all like really engaging
in full conversation while I did that.

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All right, y'all know what time it is.

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Let's get into this.

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you're watching from.

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Wom Chelsea. Man, I'm jelsee Piz Jersey for right up.

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Now, there's someone in here that says they're watching from Israel,
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And you are about what we about, you are actually
watching from full of speed.

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William, your camera sideways. It's gonna make us seasick. All right,
let's get into our word.

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Of the day.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
The word of the day is reprobate reprobate r E
p R O b A t E.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's a noun.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Y'all gonna love making sentences with this word that means depraved, vicious.
We just talked about Israel. It's also an adjective that
can mean wicked.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
They're corrupt. We just talked about Israel.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
It's also a verb that means to condemn, which is
what we should be doing all times with Israel. Oh
my god, I don't have earrings on. Sorry, I just

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there's just certain things that you gotta do. Okay, I
gotta have the earrings on. I just I need them.
Just this is what it is, all right. So the
word is reprobate. It can be used as a noun,
an adjective, or a verb. Shout out to everybody listening
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RSS speed. Okay, so that is what's going on. So

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I want to let y'all know about that. Let's use
reprobat in the sentence. Then we're going to bring up
our afka tap in guest, reprobate. The American government is
all about that reprobate. I don't even think that's used properly,
but I'm still going to go with it because we
know what the word means and any attachment to it
to the American government is correct. All right, let's go
another one.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Nope, did you Okay? Here we go.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Our reprobate president is compromised by foreign governments like Israel
and Russia.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Correct, Fatima.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
The twenty fourth century has introduced more reparate politicians than
I ever expected to witness.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Isn't that right? Isn't that real?

Speaker 2 (21:42):
I think what it lets us know is that government
as an actual institution is no bueno?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Are we in archists and safe space? Sue says, just that.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
By the way, this is a safe space, Sue, all right,
I mean it's only as safe as it can be
knowing that Google is run by reprobate corporate zionists infidels.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Let's escape going.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Rachel says, everyone in a political position in the States
are all reprobates. I mean, I listen, I know some
people are like no. I can only name two people
that I think are not reprobate, and they're both in Florida.
All right, Sherry says, my dog shared at me like
a complete reprobate after stealing the last slice of my pizza.

Speaker 9 (22:28):
Shame Andrelano says, show me your history, your your search history.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
If you aren't reprobate, I'm with it.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'm with it. But you know what we are late,
which is actually on time in Africa. Time late is
actually on time in Africa. Time's let's be real.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
We're not reprobate. We're just we're in touch with the
motherland and it's time for us to tap in.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
With William Soakawapena, I'm bricked up.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Dapping, tappen. I freaking got dapping, dapping, dapen doing it.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Very proud of my intros, William. I'm very proud of
my intro. I made that intro this morning, William.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
It's fire, It's fire. I like it.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Thank you very much, thank you. You know what, just
for that, We're gonna listen to it one more time.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
I frecked d I'm bricked.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Up dapping tapping. I'm fricked got dapping, dapping, dapin' doing
that now, y'all know, I have to I have to
like mix it properly and everything.

Speaker 11 (23:39):
But I'm actually just realizing it to your voice. I
hadn't realized it was you the first time.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
What I frecked?

Speaker 11 (23:49):
Yeah, I hear it.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
I hear it now, William. Where are you joining us
from today?

Speaker 11 (23:55):
I'm from the capital of Kenya, the new colonial pole,
uh Nairobi.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Nairobi and Nairobi.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
There's a whole big case going on in Kenya right now.
In the MASSI in the Massa Mara. We talk about
that at all today?

Speaker 5 (24:10):
Oh yes, yes, yes, okay, all right, Well we are.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Very fortunate y'all to be doing the Africa's happen with
William Soakawa and William I'm going to get the Florida.
You tell us what's going on on the other.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
Land in.

Speaker 11 (24:26):
H First of all, thank you very much. I hope
you've been okay since the last time we spoke. That's
like what two months ago.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
I mean, we're all just trying to Yeah, it's copy.

Speaker 11 (24:37):
Yeah, So yeah, about what's happening. We'll start with a
massage story. So I think a lot of us will
know Mariott Hotels, the luxury brand of hotels. So there's
a big video that's been doing the rounds where you
have the staff of this hotel Mariot in the Massai Mara,

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the world famous Massai Mara lion you might remember it
from that.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
So you have, yeah, you have.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
Staff were like shooing away the wilder beast and they
have these route for migration. So that's of course rightfully
cost quite a star among canyons because it's it's outrageous,
but it's also amblematic of a much bigger problem. So
first of all, this is the root the wild beasts

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have used for centuries to migrate. There's probably like a
DNA history in it, Like you know, this is this
is the shallowest point of the river to cross, This
is the safest from crocodiles and heapos, So you know,
you have it's not just it's not just strandom. There's
a method to it. And then you have this multi

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national hotel coming and just placing its hotel smack in
the middle of the migration route. So yeah, you have
the Masi elder.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
What was the reason that they chose that particular spot.
Isn't it next to like a river something?

Speaker 11 (26:00):
Yes, yes, yes, it's the border between Kenya and Tanzana,
between the Masaimara and the Sereneity. I think a lot
of it has to do with the mentality of the
modern day conservationists, because it's like a whole movement, and
unfortunately it's the face of it is white and the
beta one and most insulting is that you've had Africans

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who believed for centuries, if not millennia, with elephants, with
the cheetahs, with the antelopes, with the wild abasts, and
suddenly you coming from Europe, from London, from Brassels, from Washington, whatever,
and then you're coming and telling these people, actually, I
think you know how you guys could better relate to

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the environment, could better relate to nature, like you know,
the whole The only reason they are elephants in Africa
is because Africans did not go around killing all of
them for ivory, right, right, So how do you how
do you come to my house and tell me how
I should do things when I'll be doing it for centuries,
if not thousands of ways. So that's a bit of

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most insulting. But then if this bit doesn't make sense,
then what are they truly hereful? I formally believe it's
about control of land and control of resources, basically just
saying colonial we've never really ended, we still have it here.
The most visible aspect of it I find is the
displacement of the messiah of these past released communities from

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their lands. And it's sort of there's two sides of
messed up to it. Because the more climate change affects
the planet, the lesser we have resources in terms of pasture,
in terms of water, so you have less resources, and
then you have these conservationist the companies, conservations figures, the

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Prince Williams or whatever, you know, all of them, and
then they come and tell you, actually, you guys need
to move a bit more.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Already conservationism, because we just had a really brilliant woman,
Joy Malonga, and here Jim Alonza, I'm here talking about conservationism.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
What makes them conservationists?

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Because I think that they seem to present like their
conserving environment, but they're really conserving colonialism.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Would you agree one hundred percent? I mean, that's that's
exactly how I put it.

Speaker 11 (28:22):
The main agenda is basically about control of African resources,
control of African land.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
If you look, for example, the Mario.

Speaker 11 (28:29):
Tratail and you're talking about that opened in the fly marrow,
they're charging three thousand and five hundred dollars a night.
That's not not the one percent of the one percent
of Kenyons are the only people who could possibly afford
to go.

Speaker 6 (28:45):
And stay overnight at the Mario Hotel.

Speaker 11 (28:48):
So you have something that has this much impact on
the ecosystem being the you know, a result of a
very very small minority of here speaking about the the
a few wealthy canyons, and of course the white people
who like you know, like to come to the Masaimar,
like to go on Sofari game rights. But ultimately it's
about control of African land. This is basically colonialism in continuation.

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If we think colonialism and it's it's still here, it's
still here, and this is the perfect example of it.
So I mean to the point about the list. So
you have people who are already disenfranchised by climate change,
there's fewer pasture, there's fewer water, and now suddenly they
have to move again where there's even fewer passions, fewer water,
because conservation is from the west coming tell them, yeah,

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we need this land, conserve animals. And again, just back
to the point of it earlier, the only reason these
animals are with us today is because African the indigenous
people conserved it. How many infants are there in Europe
or maybe that's a bad example, but how much?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
How much? Give you an example.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
So in Ireland they had actually I'll come back to this,
but in Ireland they had actually hunted the I think
it was the fox. They hunted the fox like to
extinction in Ireland, and so they literally had messed up
the And let me say this also, it's probably not

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the Irish that did that, right, It's the British who
come and colonize and they do this, but they mess
up the ecosystem because now they kill the super predator, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
So not super predator, that's not the word I mean,
but y'all know what I'm saying. So what happened is
they literally have to now reintroduce wildlife to the landscape
because humans disrupted it. My thing is, why is it

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always the same humans doing this?

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Can we crack the code?

Speaker 11 (30:44):
I forget what Africans call said this, but his whole
argument was that the prison or yeah, basically the reason
why colonialism was moral, oukay, the reason they could go
to sleep at night knowing they're going to do all
this method that stuff is because of the climate they
were in. I'm not saying with it's valid or not.
I'm just presenting a theory. So he says, there's the

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cold hatch climate where you go for months without maybe
cross that could grow, where the wildlife, where life in
general goes on the ground. That kind of developed a
cold sentimentality to them, which is why now you know,
there's these grabby people. And an analogy that I usually

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find funny is they say, you know, if you lived
in Britain that cold, wet, sundless island and it got
the chance to leave the Thailand and go somewhere.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
All my should do it.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
So yeah, yeah they're miserable.

Speaker 11 (31:45):
So yeah we're just yeah, we'll just start to do
it's into a nature. But again I'm almost saying like
I'm supporting the theory or not.

Speaker 6 (31:52):
I'm just presenting it.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Dang.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
So what I did see is so I just want
to show you guys. So top here where you see
that line, that is where the hotel is built. It's
on that border, to my understanding, and as you can see,
there's a river, the Mara River.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
The hotel is built on the Mara River.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
And so the wilde beasts they travel through the Mara
River and it's a very like like William said, it's
a low crossing. It's where the river is the shallowest
and so. And it's also not just wilde beasts that
travel this river. I mean that travel this this migration.
I know that there's other animals too that are traveling

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this migration. What it also says, though, is that you
know they don't care about.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Anything. Bro Like I know that we say like, oh,
they just don't think we're human.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I mean, to my understanding, like these type of
folks don't even care about humans either, so why would
they care about wilde beasts.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
But it's not just that wilde beasts are. And let
me just show you so some of y'all can see.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
What wilde beasts are. So here's the wildebeest crossing at
the Mara. Okay, look how many well of beasts there are.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
So here's my question to you, William, aside from.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Keeping the wilde beasts alive, what is the connection of
these animals to the Masaimara besides literally just and I
know there's an I know.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
The answer to this, but I'm just asking for the
sake of answering.

Speaker 5 (33:38):
But what is the cause?

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Then?

Speaker 2 (33:41):
I think these folks are like, what's the big deal,
They'll just have to reroute, which is just I just
need y'all to know this, all the white people on here.
If I'm walking down the street, if I'm walking on
a sidewalk and white people are walking on that sidewalk,
I'm in a revolution. I'm in my own little revolution, William.

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I'm not moving. I'm not And I was in Grenada
the other day on my island, William, and there was
a there was a walk and I was like, I
see these three British people walking towards me, and I
was like, I hope they know I'm not moving. We
might we might have the scrap right here on this
little pathway. They moved, they moved to the side. They

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were like, good morning, good morning. I was like, good, good, good,
remember where you are so please? What is the connection
of the animals beyond simply just like we we respect
that they had their route.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
I think the chief reason that the animals migrate is
to look for pasture.

Speaker 11 (34:43):
You synthesizes of the hearts of the wilder beast, so
I can't imagine a lot of them in the same place.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Would obviously consume a lot of grass and a lot
of vegetation. So it makes sense that from the vegetation
becomes slower. And then there's the other side, which is
basically unexploit here that this simply across the.

Speaker 11 (35:00):
River and go to the other side. And I think
that the most important is you say they could simp
figure out. Let's remember that will the base have not
started crossing the from the Masai Mara to the Serengeti yesterday.
This is something that is century upon centuries of tradition,
which means many many will the beast generations before them
have the opportunity or have the chance to like explore

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different parts of the river and the heart Basically, you know, Settler,
the fact that you know, if we go this way,
then we'd have the best chance of success in terms
of getting to the other side, which means maybe the
river is shallow, maybe there are less crocodiles, I mean,
you know, less predators. So that is a sort of
explanation behind it. And then now try to reconcile that

(35:44):
to someone who cans to canyon tells you, actually, I
have a plan for helping you guys conserve the environment.
And by doing that, I'm going to put a hotel
smart in the middle of the migration route. This just shows,
as you said this, the obviously conservation is not their concern.
What their concern is how do we control African land,

(36:04):
how do we control African resources? That has been the
motive since fourteen fifteen hundred, and it's still going on today.
You know a lot of US people think, yeah, or
Barack Obama was the first black president or black people free.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
You know, started.

Speaker 11 (36:20):
The former chief of Defense often I forgressive of the
name is black. So you know, black peop are represented,
so why should they complain you're basically free.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
Movie. Yeah, there's always.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Been and there's always been black people who allow themselves
to be utilized for the advancement of the establishment and
of colonialism and of capitalism, et cetera. Like that's always
been the case. There's always been people who are willing.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
To not be on code. So and for what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Let me also note Barack Obama's fathers from Kenya.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
That ends up being like a marriage, right, because.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
If people don't realize that a lot of people don't
realize that the United States SILF functions like a monarchy
in terms of who it puts in office and who's
connected to what and how that allows for these like
continued connections to other countries. And in monarchies, they used
to just marry people so that they could have a
diplomatic connection. Like it wasn't like, oh I love this lady,
It's like, no, I'm trying to have some bond over

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here with Germany, so we about to marry you to
some German cat and Obama being.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Indian, I mean Obama being Kenyan.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
That's what that was about, in my opinion, and by
the way, you got Kamala and she's Indian and you
see they trying to figure out what to do over there.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
But what else is going on?

Speaker 11 (37:41):
Uh okay. Apart from the Masaiah mar stuff, we also
have officially, I think the war arch brass has been
issued for a British soldier. So we've goes back to
twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, where my whole point is that
you have this she was twenty one at the time

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and she was killed. She was a Kenyan walker. Reports
said she was a sex walker. I think that's like
the general understanding of it. So reporter one of the
British soldiers killed her and then boasted about it on
Facebook and for since twenty thirteen to now, that's some

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watch twe obvious. You have the murder, the main mother
suspect voting about it on Facebook, but it takes you
thirteen years to issue a warrant of arrest. And someone
made a very good point in that. Imagine if the
roles were verst Imagine it was a Kenyan soldier on
British soil who had defiled and killed British woman. Only

(38:46):
it takes thirteen years to bring that Kenyan man to justice.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
It obviously would right he brought to justice, they would
end up being unlived before they even had to go
to court.

Speaker 11 (38:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So it was just tied into
the old Mara story again, basically that colonelism never really ended.
You can see the inequalities in power here. So yeah,
that's something major that's been happening around Kenya. Nest our neighbor.
Tanzania had elections. I'm pretty sure you must have seen
about it.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Now I live in the United States. We don't see
about anything, if I know.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
That's why, that's why it's so important to have you
all come on the show because the geo, the geo,
the concept that we are.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
On a globe is very new for a lot of Americans. William,
we don't get news, we don't get.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Understood.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
So yeah, talk to us like we're five year olds.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Okay, Okay.

Speaker 11 (39:43):
So Tanzania we had a presidential election where the main
candidate one with ninety eight percent of the vote.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
But you know a lot of people have been calling
to question you know, you won with ninety eight percent
of the vote.

Speaker 11 (39:58):
But you have to do the swearing in ceremony in
a military training ground where zero members of the public
are allowed to participate. You have widespread riots covered and
there is not the same level of support in terms
of Actually, it's the funny thing because you even have
like official African bodies like the South African.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
Development Community.

Speaker 11 (40:24):
I think, yeah, you have even them like saying, you know,
we have issues with the elections. For one, you guys
were intimidating opposition runners. You guys intimidated the media. There's
been a series of abductions of key presidential candidates. It's
not a level playing field. So for you to win

(40:45):
this ninety eight percent, you also have to look at Okay,
but what the election fair, which is it wasn't fair?

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Now, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, yeah, like that's what always irritates me. I'm just like,
why are y'all even at least make it a little
more like you.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Like you try.

Speaker 6 (41:06):
Like do do seventy percent? It's bad, but it's not ninety.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Eight Like that's just not true. I mean, no one
believes that.

Speaker 11 (41:16):
Yeah, So, I mean, of course, in certain circles, there
have been I feel rightful concerns. People have been correctly
concerned that maybe the CIA is trying to like overthrow
a government. This is something that has happened a lot
of times before. This is something the CIA always do.
So you know this is not this is not a
far vegeed idea. But on that I'm not gonna say

(41:37):
it's not possible. But I don't think it's lightly. I
could be wrong, but I don't think it's slightly.

Speaker 6 (41:43):
Do you think there is?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
If it's not that, then what do you think it
could be?

Speaker 6 (41:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (41:48):
You have the Yeah, you have the Traumaa Chamapindozy party,
which is the main party. It's been in power since independence.
And this is something that I feel applies lately or
recently to a lot of African countries Mozambique, I think Botswana.
So when this party came to power during independence, a

(42:09):
lot of Africans had a lot of hope in them,
like this is what we expect you guys to do.
This is how far we want you guys to take
the country. But all you have instead is a consolidation
of the elite. Yes, the white man left, but the
black people he left only look after themselves.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
This is the case is South Africa.

Speaker 11 (42:27):
The last elections was the first time the ruling African
National Congress Party got less than fifty percent since nineteen
ninety four. So this is basically African beople sending a
message yes you guys, yeah, was independence from white people,
but we don't feel like the frus of independence are
being distributed like to each according to their need. So

(42:49):
this is the case with the CCM, and which is
why I think it's I don't think it's the maybe
CIA or some Western intelligence agency involved because for a time,
you know, they of Julius Nerera, he had very good,
very clear socialist policies in terms of benefit of the many.
And then I think nineteen seventy seats, you have this

(43:13):
new president coming in, this new chairman of the CCM party,
and then he introduces new liberalism and this is around
the time when the ions is really starting to recrute
in Africa. And his nickname actually is mister Permission, Yes,
mister Rush, which means he basically permitted any multinational corporation.

Speaker 6 (43:35):
He opened up Tanzania to the world markets.

Speaker 11 (43:38):
But the fact of that is one of the conditions
of the iron methods, you know, is the state has
to step back, the state has to let the private
sector stepped. Uncontrolled trade and controlled industry all that, and
one of the consequences of this was that you had
industries where the state was involved, which means the state
had a direct impact on a lot of ordinary Tanzanians.

(44:01):
So mister ruckshire comes in, mister permission cramps in, and
the state pulls back. The consequence of that is now
there is not unemployment. And this is just one If
you look at maybe the running of the city, this
is the basic story around all of Africa. Who rents
became high all that which is again a key feature

(44:22):
of capitalism. So starting from the seventies, I feel the CCM,
which had very good policies under Julius Nerrera before, changed
into capitalism and new liberalism. And of course this benefits
very few people. It might make the country rich like
South Africa, but this world will only be felt by

(44:43):
very few people, which means you have many more people
who are disent franchised, many for more people who do
not leave a life of dignity.

Speaker 12 (44:52):
So of some of the industries, I'm sorry, I'll have
to get back to that. I can get them off
the top of but I'll definitely give back to that.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Okay, yeah, but I mean usually.

Speaker 11 (45:05):
It's stuff like maybe cement making, steel making. But I
don't through like, I don't like generalize and say something
not you're so, yeah, I'll have to get back to that.
So since the seventies, you have this is the legacy
of the CCM. It enriches few people but makes millions
more miserable. So it's no surprise that many many Tanzanians

(45:28):
do not feel a connection to the political process. And
I think what we saw that this contently.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
So it's not that the.

Speaker 11 (45:35):
CIA came and started manufacturing did this content in Tanzania.
So yeah, the last bit for Tanzani. Unless we've got
anything else, I could move on to Mali. No, I'll
come back to Kenya and then to Mali.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
All right, where with you we're right, what's okay?

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Okay? Okay?

Speaker 11 (45:51):
So in Kenya about a month and two weeks ago
we had the death of Rylodinger and then of course
we had guys like Barack Obama treating you know. I mean,
he had an impact, but this impact is something a
cult question. Let's he's like a Bannis Okay. I don't know,
this might offend with viewers. I'm sorry, but it's like

(46:12):
a Bannis Slanders type of figure.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
Right. He preaches, he preaches revolution.

Speaker 11 (46:17):
He says, you know, the society should be more equal,
all the stuff made a care for all. Inequality is
a problem, which is which is good. And then he
gets the chance to in a position to make the
change and does nothing. So that's why I make the
Bannislanders comparison. So for Reiler, before ninety eighty two, we

(46:38):
only had one party, we had a one party system
in the country. This was can This was the Independence Party.
And of course he's credited not by himself, but he
was among a body of Kenyons who actively agitated to
have multi party democracy have less repression by the Daniel

(46:58):
moy regime.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
So I'll give him that. But my suspicion, which.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Is what I want to find this picture. What's his name?

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Ler or Dinga?

Speaker 1 (47:09):
How do I spell that? Rayler?

Speaker 6 (47:12):
It sounds I got it?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Yeah, I always forget, like, yeah, it's Africa, It's African,
it's spelled how it sounds?

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Okay?

Speaker 11 (47:24):
So yeah, Rayler was a pretty i say, popular figure,
which is the biggest strategy for me because we have
millions and millions of Kenyan people who put their thrust
in him. Watch every single time Ryler hard, the opport
you needed to make a difference. He betrayed the Kenyan
working class.

Speaker 6 (47:41):
This is what it's basically he was. He was an
opportunist the previous elections.

Speaker 11 (47:50):
Basically every time there's been elections, most of the time,
or like two or three times, he's been robbed of
the elections.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
That's that's fact. And then you know, he obviously go
through the streets, he tells his the porters, this is
not this is not fair. I've got to hit the street.
You've got a protest.

Speaker 11 (48:06):
And then of course I'll say, this is someone who
got more than fifty percent, so he commands the sizeable
portion of the country. And when he decides to protest,
obviously the country is going to come to a standstill.
The economy is going to grind down. So at some point,
even if you stole the elections, you have to come
and talk to him, because if you don't talk to him,

(48:27):
Western companies are not coming to invest in Nairobi because
Nairobi is unstable, simple as that. So that's the sort
of power he wielded. But whenever he got the opportunity, okay.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
When builds that power just to be in power, like
it's not like he uses the power. He just wants
to be able to be there. So he goes to
the people, he wrangles them up, riles them up, and says, no,
put me back in power, like don't let them do
this to me, and they're like okay, because he did
get something done to him.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
So he is a victim, but he uses that.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
He uses that victimhood just to put himself in power
and not to actually we utilize his power to help
the real victims, which are the Kenyan people who are
being misrepresented and neglected.

Speaker 6 (49:08):
I couldn't put it better.

Speaker 11 (49:10):
That's the perfect that's the perfect summary of who Ryloading is.
And then it goes a step further because, as I said,
whenever he comes close to power, he does nothing for
the people, but he does something for himself. Usually there's
something called a handshake. In two thousand and seven, when
he I think the first time he ran as president
and the elections was stolen from him, part the algrement

(49:32):
was okay, we'll share the government fifty fifty. There are
no working class people represented in the government. It was
people close to him politically, people who are wealthy enough
to participate in Kenyon politics. Two thousand and seven. Next
elections happen. In twenty and thirteen, same thing happens, so
they call, oh, we will have to talk to Ryler,

(49:54):
bring Rayler to the table. No, I think that was
twenty eighteen, because we had a Uru Kenatu coming in
twenty thirteen, runs his five terms and then runs for
a second time in twenty twenty seventeen, and then Ryler
gets the election stolen from him again, so of course
he goes to protests. We even had a boycott of
two major corporations, one the president's dairy company called brook Side,

(50:17):
and two of the main telecommunications company called Safaricom, which
is apparently also one of the biggest financial players as well.
Call it a facilitates money transductions. So after, of course,
you know, Kenya's unstable, we cannot come to new investments
coming in. The Western investors are you know, they're igitus.
They're not sure that they should invest in this environment.

(50:40):
So if we want them to come and give us
billions of dollars, we have to speak to Ryler.

Speaker 6 (50:44):
That is exactly what they did. Yler comes again.

Speaker 11 (50:48):
It's his people who are in cabinet. It's his people
who get tenders for maybe supplying oil, sugar, this kind
of stuff. Basically, he's in opposition to make money from
the government and his friends are in a position to
make money from the government. These have been the outcome
every single time. So I have this thing where I say,

(51:11):
I don't say it's it's a saying basically that systems
should be judged for.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
What they do, not for what they say.

Speaker 11 (51:17):
So by the same metric Rylo Dinger should be judged
for what he did and not for what he said. So,
you know, as much as the spoke good game about
oh I should save the people, Oh the people.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
Are oppressed, he never really put his foot to it
when he talks really imagined.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
But do the people still believe him when he says that.

Speaker 11 (51:36):
So I think that's whats me here in s Yes,
if Vanny Sanders was to come again today, you may
both virtue him, right.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
You know, it's interesting because they all kind of do
the same thing where they do what's called breadcrumbing, where
they kind of like they give you just a little
bit enough to like wet your palette and make you
feel like, oh, look they gave us something. I mean,
I've dealt with this dating right, Like you're dating someone
and they do like a good thing, You're like, look,

(52:13):
and then they do it.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Then they do a.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Bunch of whack things and you're like, oh, you're whack.
But then they're like, no, look I did this nice thing.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
And so that is the dynamic.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
And I'm just like, what is it about the masses
that they don't disengage from that. I'm trying to solve this,
William I swear.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
I feel like if I could just like unplug from
the United States and just live like on the land
with no interruptions for three months, I can figure it out.

Speaker 13 (52:45):
I really do.

Speaker 11 (52:46):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's a much discussion. Of course
what I what I say is not I don't say
like this is for facts, what will rightfully work. But
I think it's a problem of political education. People make
this for choices, make these poor choices because they don't
really understand the impact of politics in their lives. A
big mobilization technique during Kenyan elections is money. A politician

(53:11):
steals from you for five years, comes back, gives you
two dollars, two dollars.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
And buy your vote.

Speaker 14 (53:21):
Yes.

Speaker 15 (53:23):
Right.

Speaker 6 (53:23):
This politician goes back to parliament and makes all that
money back.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Why this is the real thing here in the United States. Okay,
that's a very thing that people are now starting to see.
They're like, now, hold on a minute now, because I
think a lot of people also didn't realize that politicians
are making money.

Speaker 13 (53:45):
You know, like Nancy.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
Naty Pelosi has made two hundred million dollars since she
has been in the House of Representatives. What's the salario,
the salary for the House of Representeds. It's something like
one hundred and eighty thousand.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
Oh, she'd have to work forever. It's make two hundred million. Again.

Speaker 11 (54:11):
Yeah, this politicians, it's insulting. It's insulting. Really, I give
you one dollar and I take one hundred dollars from
your back pocket. That's the entire dynamic. That's exactly how
it works in our contest. And as I just said,

(54:31):
in years as well. So the question is, why the
hell do voters, why the hell does the electually electorally
still make these decisions. And I think it goes back
to political education. People don't really realize the fact that
these two dollars I'm taking right now will cost me.
Healthcare will cost me, roads will cost me, education will

(54:53):
cost me infrastructure. This is something that if I actually
someone who didn't give me the two dollars and actually
had a programs CIVI attender, if I'd actually voted for
him stead, my life will be much better off in
five years as opposed to lease the politician. But we
don't do that, so I think it's a question of
we're not properly informed. So it's it's now. I think

(55:13):
the hardest task is that or the toughest appeal to
swallow is that this is what that has to be done.
It's hard, it's grassroots, it's grimy, but there is no
other way other than political education. That's once you build,
Once you have an established educated, grassrootsdald is your oyster.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
That's that's how I see it.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
It's a very hard Then was on the show recently
and she was talking about how really what's happening in
Bourkina fossil is possible because there was a really committed
effort to political education that took place even before Trio
Ray was in power.

Speaker 11 (55:51):
Yeah, I mean you have a lot of the worst say,
oh the Bukina fossor authoritarian or the Bukinas faster detata.
You know something along those lines. But I really like
to say, before Frare, we had Damiba, who rules for
I think less than a year, and it wasn't okay.
Before Damiba, we had Compowdery. It was Compowder who killed Sankara.
I think compowered rule booking a fast for either twenty

(56:13):
four or twenty eight years. But let's remember it was
booking a fast people who removed Blaze Compowder from power.
These same people gave Damiba a mandate. Then Damiba, instead
of doing what the people told him, he still went
back in bed with the French. Then the people said,
you know what, if you're not going to do what

(56:35):
we want, you're.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
Also going to go out. So I say, Fraare is
a product of a very pure.

Speaker 11 (56:42):
Form of democracy. Americans don't have democracy. The West doesn't
have democracy. It's the bankers, it's the landlords, it's the
real estate agents, it's the tech bros who controlled the democracy.
How much in bailouts was given to banks in two
thousand and eight, how much has been given to companies
like Nvidia, Microsoft a lunch here right now? How much

(57:05):
of that is being given to the normal working class American?
So whose interest are being served by this democracy, which
America says, oh, we're the world's greatest democracy.

Speaker 6 (57:15):
But does it show.

Speaker 11 (57:16):
But for Bulkino Fasso, you have construction of you have
rapid industrialization, you have rapid construction of infrastructure.

Speaker 6 (57:25):
You send the roads being constructed day and night.

Speaker 11 (57:29):
In Nisia, you have a company, the French company that's
been taking uranium for free, arch in college for free.
Because if I print, if I take a piece of paper,
write something on it, put a stamp, give it to you.
But in exchange for this paper, I want you to
go someplace. I want you to work in the sun.

(57:49):
Aren't you to walking me sweat? And aren't you to
actually bring me something useful. All I have to do
is print of paper, write something on it, stamp it.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
But you have to work. That's free. That's three reasons.
That's the kind of relationship that Franz has with.

Speaker 11 (58:03):
These countries, or these countries like Ninia. So sy it
and tells France, you know what, screw off, we're checking
on Agreiam Orano.

Speaker 6 (58:11):
Get out of here. I'm going to go to were
we were just like.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
You wasn't here like this, and I said, let me not.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
I don't want to say nothing because William is cheffing
it up right now, you.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Were, Let's let's go, let's go in here. Like the
chat was even quiet. The chat was like, let me
just not interrupt him because he's he's clicking right now
and we need to stay focused. Okay, look at the wrist.
So let's talk about Molly.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Molly is a landlocked country that is bordered by Algeria, Mooritania, Senegal, Guine, Divoi, Bokina, Faso,
and nijer Is, and Mali is part of the Sahel.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Union.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
Correct, Yeah, it's it's actually you know, people give.

Speaker 11 (59:16):
It might be the wrong thing to say, but you
know we love booking a fast a lot traures or
fail right, you know, but I feel usually of a
Luk Mali. I firmly believe if it wasn't for Mali,
Bookina Faso won't get the independence it got. Explosn for Mali,
Nize won't care the independence it got. Maley was the
first country to break away from France in twenty twenty.

(59:40):
Mali it was alone, you know, at least and Boast
was coming in. At least Maley was there. You know,
they have someone you know, hey, brother, you know the
French are kind of squeezing us here, help us. You know,
that was the doesn't it was something they could count.
But Mali, it's the land of monster Musa. Actually yeah,
it's it's actually maybe poetic that it's the first country,

(01:00:02):
i say, in Africa to actually break free from colonial
or new colonial chains. So now recently, just you know,
let me not get two carriage away. Recently, the multinational
corporation Barry Gold. It's maybe top ten in terms of
mining companies in the world. It's pretty important they finally

(01:00:23):
come to an agreement with Smili. But this is the
problem that started from twenty twenty three, so it's something
that's taken two years for them to resolve. So in
twenty twenty three, Miley passes a new mining court. And
this is not just to show you that while the
rest of Africans will say we have democracy because we vote,
but the people of Mali actually have democracy because what
they want happens for them before go eater camp.

Speaker 6 (01:00:48):
See it. I think the rate was fifteen percent. Every
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I want a pain in this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
I want to put a pin in this really really quickly.
When you're saying they had democracy, because they're getting what
they want. And you can come back to this because
I know you're I've already figured out how your brain works,
So come back to this when you're done making your point.
But I want you to explain to us what you
think is this mechanism that allows for that that's different
in other places.

Speaker 11 (01:01:18):
Actually think this is the result of basically, the more
you oppressed people, the more they want you to resist.
What is it Neutron's second love motion. So every action
there's an equal and opposite reaction. So the more you
oppress people, the more they resist. Take Israel and Palestine,
the more they oppressed Palestinians, the more the likelihood that

(01:01:40):
will probos evant are going to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
This is simply the natural consequence of oppression. So I
think the.

Speaker 11 (01:01:48):
Let me not say lucky factor, but I think the
important factor here is that, yes, the people of Mali,
the people of the Saill, the people of Franco Freak
all have very strong opinions towards rants, and it's negative.
But in terms of what can we possibly do. You know,
France is a member of NATAL You saw what NATO
did to Libya through RACK to Afghanistan, right, So it

(01:02:11):
has to be someone who has the capacity to like
effect change.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It's just someone with a backbone. See that's basically what
you're saying. Do you literally like ya, It's not that deep, Amanda.
It's just got to be someone with a backbone.

Speaker 11 (01:02:25):
But yeah, but as well, the backbone has to have
a big stick because, as I say, the average civilian
might not really have much they can do. And now
this is somewhere where usually if the civilians want this,
but in most of the times, the military in many
countries are part of the elite. So the elite has

(01:02:46):
an interest in making sure the situation remains the same.
Let's not have a change. They benefit from.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
The stage of school.

Speaker 11 (01:02:53):
So that is why in the other fifty four or
fifty or forty seven other African countries there hasn't been
some similar to what happened in the hell because a
lot of these militaries also feed at the track, you know,
in terms of in terna. For example, nobody audits what
the military gets. In terms of Okay, here's the annual budget.

(01:03:14):
The military is getting this amount of money. Nobody ever
got to check. Okay, so you guys said you put this, Okay, where.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
In the United States. But it doesn't mean anything. The
pentagon is every audience, which is right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Paying taxes, like people just paying taxes to these people
to do whatever they want.

Speaker 11 (01:03:35):
With them exactly. So maybe if put just the pentegon
one as an example, do you really expect someone who's
maybe a major general who's got a job waiting for
him at Lacked, Marching at Boying, at Rathion, you will
expect him to do a coup that will actively harm
the interest of Boeing and raytheon and what whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
It won't happen. So that's exactly what's been happening elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
You just said something that I feel like I haven't
paid attention to, which is that our military itself has
an elite class. You know what I'm saying, Like, I
feel like I haven't really like, like, the United States
military itself has an elite class.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
And thus.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Even when they get to the certain ranks of the military,
they they leave the lower ranks, so to speak, not
just by not just by designation, but also by like
their level of access to also funds and status, and
then they get to retain that by pivoting to these

(01:04:51):
other corporations. Every I think it's the last three or four.
The last three or four secretaries of Defense for the
United States were all ce and had all served at
major weapons manufacturing companies.

Speaker 6 (01:05:06):
Exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:05:07):
So you would expect Lloyd Austin to suddenly do a
people's revolution for the United States of America.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
It simply won't happen. So I think this is something
that was an anomaly in.

Speaker 11 (01:05:17):
Terms of the alliance of the health state, where you
have soldiers who are relatively high access in terms of
the military hierarchy, who are also grounded in the people
to see what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
But what But that's what you have to figure out,
was what is it about them? Why were they able
to still retain that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Because I can tell you that I'm somebody who I'm
an anomaly, Like I went to Hollywood, I made it.
I'm super talented, I could, I'm pretty, I could, I'm
light skinned, Like I could have gone the distance, okay,
like in terms of capitalism in the United States, I
could have really gone the whole distance and got the

(01:06:00):
bigger house, and I could have been a movie star.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
It never.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Was attractive to me because there was always the groundedness of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Yeah, but yeah, yeah, yeah, so like, and I know
that that's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Because I came here apparently with a certain soul, But
then I also had a lot of like building while
I was a kid, Like I was always hearing Jimmy
Cliff rest some peace in my house.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
I was always hearing like there was always.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Revolutionary aspects around me that I feel like made their
way into my cellular structure from day one, And so
I just wonder about these men. That's why every time
we have white people on this show that I considered
to be high quality whites, I always ask them, how
did you get like this?

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
I'm trying, I'm trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Solve something here. So I think about that when you say, like,
these men were able to do a people's revolution because
they were high ranking. It's still grounded in the people.
But why how do they manage to be both?

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Three is a lot.

Speaker 11 (01:07:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'd say it has to
do said about the every action has an equal and
opposite reaction. I think France is among the most vicious
neo colonial powers. Nija was the second poorist country in

(01:07:42):
the world, but has been supplying around thirty percent of
Europe's of France's electricity let me tell you something.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
When you fly over in the air, you like, what's here?
What's here?

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Like you?

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
It looks but yeah, because they're stealing everything from it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:04):
Exactly, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:08:06):
The uranium that should have been used to light up
NIA was used to light up the Afield tower. And
now this is just to show you. France comes and says, yeah,
colonialism and you know you're friends. Now, then why not
share nuclear technology with Nia? Why not let them utilize
their own resources? And again this just to show you
the qualitative difference between these governments before and after.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I hope I want to let me also add though,
for you guys, when you hear the word nuclear, that
doesn't necessarily mean weaponized nuclear utilization, like nuclear is also
used to create electricity, you know, to like actually like
make places functions.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
So when we hear nuclear, we always think, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
So they're going to have nuclear weapons, and that's not
It's about it's being able to refine what you have
to utilize it as a source of power.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 11 (01:09:02):
I mean, look, look, ven, if they wanted nuclear weapons, man,
you know, there's a reason North Korea hasn't been invaded,
and there's the reason Libya has fallen. If Kadafia had
nuclear weapons, maybe not, you won't have killed them and
turned Libya into an opening a slave market.

Speaker 6 (01:09:17):
But again that's beside the point.

Speaker 11 (01:09:19):
So I believe the reason that these three countries were
the ones that gave Africa its first revolution is because
they are also the more oppressed.

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
You have.

Speaker 11 (01:09:30):
Nija gets seventy percent of its allectricity from Nigeria, but
Nija's Iranian powers twenty five thirty.

Speaker 6 (01:09:38):
Percent of France. How does that make sense? Right?

Speaker 11 (01:09:42):
So I think fortunately you also have also remember that
these military people, they also come from these communities. There's
like a Now, this is why I'll say maybe chance,
because there was a chance that someone who's less politically
inclined to revolution will have been the place of Chini.
But it was Chaney who was there. But even then

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we had Bazoom before Bazoom was the president, before General
Chaney came in, and Bazoom was the darling of France.
Bazoom is the reason why France was getting uranium for free.
Then you have Channy coming in and saying you know what, yeah, actually, yeah,
you know you're not exporting anymore what you have in
the warehouse.

Speaker 6 (01:10:19):
We're going to keep that.

Speaker 11 (01:10:21):
Matter of fact, I think they actually sold the uranium
for Russia recently. I'll have to confirm, but yeah, that's
and people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Were like, no, they shouldn't do business with Russia either.
And it's like, listen, if Russian buying it, sell it,
they're not. You're not the uranium. They say, we'll pay
you for your uranium.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
They're all taking you for free, like France. Basically, you
know that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Is that when we look at these countries, we are
thinking about them as in like as individuals and silos, but.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
They're on a globe, and we had, particularly in the United.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
States, we are very much t tricked into feeling like
the United States is the only thing that's here, and
it's not. By the way, right already here we've been
We've been talking now for a damn near hour because
William came and said, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Tell y'all about the whole continent. So let's wrap up Mali.

Speaker 6 (01:11:25):
Let's wrap up Mali. So yeah, the same thing with
Nija taking back his resources.

Speaker 11 (01:11:30):
In twenty twenty three, Marley produces the new mining code
before they're getting us in fifteen percent. Then they increase
and said for every operation you guys are doing here,
we want thirty five percent. Yeah, then you have this
big dog very good said you know what, fuck you man,
You've got to give you thirty five percent. So while
he said, let's say, okay, they arrest the CEO, they
arrest a few employees and they told them we've got

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to give us five hundred million dollars. And on top
of that the goal that was in the warehouse. They
are the same thing with Njia. You know, you're not
exporting this goal. This is now under control of the
stage and so the new guys, actually, you have taxes,
you need to backdate all that kind of stuff. So
that's what's been happening since Jan tweet. And then you

(01:12:13):
have now they finally come to an agreement. But before this,
actually Barrak goal finally went to it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
Very very good. That sounds like an Israeli name, it.

Speaker 12 (01:12:25):
Does it does?

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Actually, yeah, yeah, but I think it's Canadian.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
So they go to Zionists.

Speaker 11 (01:12:32):
Yeah, same difference. So I think they go to a
wild arbitration court. And then the proceedings have been going on,
but behind the scenes they've also been talking. So now
money is still a barn Gold. Okay, look, we're going
to drop the case. You are going to get your
license back, we're going to release your employees. But just
think you to thirty five percent.

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
That's the rate.

Speaker 11 (01:12:55):
And on top of that, I don't know exactly the figure,
but I guess we paid millions of dollars. Maybe in
line is what they told the barrier to pay in
terms of back taxes. But yeah, that's basically it. The
point actually is they're cool with some people that are disappointed.
Let's say, oh, Malie should have kicked Barry Goals completely out.
And this just goes back to your point earlier just

(01:13:17):
before I started speaking, where I feel we do not
live in an ideal world like so long as the
principle of which is rooted in revolutionary spirit. Mali, for example,
Mali is not in a position to process its own
goal right now. It could use with the tactical help
from people who already established. But if they can get

(01:13:39):
a good deal suty five percent, I think that's the
highest in Africa, thuty five percent, then that changes.

Speaker 16 (01:13:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
The change is solely because once you elevate your rate,
now it becomes a new precedent that everyone has to
respond to. And now you're also controlling the press versus
the outsider, which is what colonialism has always done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
And you should be able to control your own precedent.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
This is why, like whenever if an artist tells me
that their piece is twenty thousand dollars, I'm like, Okay,
I may not pay.

Speaker 5 (01:14:13):
For it, but I.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
Yeah, yeah, I respect it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
I respect it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
You be twenty thousand dollars, al right, baby, I don't
got it, but I respect it. The last thing I'll
take away from this, though, that I'm listening to, is
you know, what you're saying about France is that they
essentially were so oppressive that it was felt by all
there was a universality to the oppression, and so no

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one remains unscathed.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
And that is the thing that a lot of places,
that's where they messed up.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Actually, because actually I think that's a brilliant point.

Speaker 11 (01:14:55):
It might have popular life book, because remember in twenty
eleven you have a killing for Gadaffi and the consequence
of that is it's also ask you right now what
three places you think are famous for terrorism. You're gonna
the Middle East is gonna be somewhere at the top
of your list.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
You're gonna say the United States, and then I'm gonna say, Okay,
I'm gonna say Israel.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Then i'm gonna say the States, and then i'm gonna
say England.

Speaker 6 (01:15:22):
Okay.

Speaker 11 (01:15:23):
Yes, but the average person maybe you say, you know,
the Middle East is somewhere here, right, But since Gadaffi
felt the Middle East is now at the top place,
we have to help. So this is the place with
the most terrorism related death in the world in twenty
fish streak of eighty seven hundred people killed by terrorists.

(01:15:47):
The terrorists were the same people not or armed and
funded to kill Gaddafi. So they killed Gadaffi and it's like, okay,
we have guns, we have cars.

Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
What do we do? We go south? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
But they armed, Like I've seen enough movies, they're armed,
and they are absolutely being controlled and influenced and in
cahoots with some white guy in khakis who wears, you know,
sunglasses and looks very nondescript.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
But it's absolutely out there. Haven't y'all ever seen the Caario.
There's some white man who's showing up in a in
a two loose in a shirt with a loose.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
It'll be a T shirt, but the collar is really loose,
like it's been put on too many times. And he's
just showing up and having these real casual commers because.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
He's the cool white guy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yes, he has a Oh my god, William, you nailed it.
He has aviator glasses, yes, and a mustache and he's
just there and you know, and he's wearing flip flops indiscriminately,
and he's like having these conversations with these folks. And
then he comes back and sits in a meeting at
Langley and says, well, this is what they are going

(01:17:00):
to do.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
Now, that's exactly what I mean.

Speaker 11 (01:17:04):
Another key story I might have glossed over in the
interest of time was that there was a plan to
collapse Miley a few weeks ago. Maley has been under
a severe fuel shortage because the terrorists have been ambushing
fuel trucks. You remember, Maley is the landlocked country, so
every bit of fuel they get has to be shifted
by trucks. Now, these theorists have been ambushing these trucks.

(01:17:25):
But somehow, Now this is where I mean, it goes
back to the point where I say, let's not be idealistic. Yes,
we want our Malei Bukina. They have to be free,
but to get there they have to make partnerships with
certain countries. I gonna say this, if it wasn't for
Russian corporation, I don't think the as will be viable

(01:17:46):
our state as it is today because from the very
moment Maley kicked out France, France has been trying to
knock down Mali. Now here's the quick question. Do you
reckon on everything kept constant, think Mali will be able
to defeat France. They don't have the same level of resources.
France is a member of NATO, has access to maybe

(01:18:08):
all the satellite networks in the world, as access to
CIA intelligence is the one actually funding these terrorists. So
it's unfair to tell Mali no, don't take help from anyone,
don't cooperate with anyone.

Speaker 6 (01:18:21):
Phytim on your own, they'll fail.

Speaker 11 (01:18:24):
We do not want to perpetually cry oh they kill Sankara,
or they kill the Mumba, or.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
They kill the Chroma. This is something that actually works
for the interests of Africans. Goita.

Speaker 11 (01:18:36):
Chinese are not working for Westerners. They're not working for
the Chinese, They're not working for the Russians. They're working
with the Russians, which is something completely different from being
under the Russians. So I feel it's a it's a
relationship of mutual respect and it's far different from what
France was doing. And the only reason France is still
financing this terrorists is to take control back of Mali.

(01:18:57):
Let's remember that Mali is one of the biggest gold
producers in Africa, and you've seen the price of gold
in recent months.

Speaker 12 (01:19:04):
I have not, So does it happen if it's popping,
it's high, it's soaring.

Speaker 11 (01:19:11):
So yeah, I'm just saying, you know, it's good to
be realistic. I think the corporation they have is very productive.
Russia actually helped money overcome the field shortage, so.

Speaker 6 (01:19:20):
Yeah, oh good, oh good. And I think that's about it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Well, thank you so much William for tapping in and
telling us what's going on on the motherland. You know,
it's very valuable information for us. And as per usual,
we have to point out that you have nice hands.
William's got the best hands in the game, y'all. I mean,
let's just give it up for Williams songs and also
the knowledge, as we informed you before, if this whole

(01:19:48):
being a smart black man thing doesn't work out, you
can always be a hand model, all right, So just
know that there's another route.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
For you if you need it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Looking forward to having you back on the show, and
thank you once again for sharing that only like information
and knowledge, but your insights, right, because that's the other
thing is that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
And we're gonna I'm gonna show a video about this later.

Speaker 2 (01:20:07):
But the people of the Motherland of Africa need to
be able to speak for themselves, and so often I
feel like we're getting the information from you all through
third parties that are doing their own assessments based on
what always ends up being a colonialist perspective. So appreciate you,
appreciate Africa Stream and all the good things. Natasha, your

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camera is sideways.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
All right, y'all, We are about to get into our
next guest. I know we are moving and grooving and
let's get into.

Speaker 15 (01:20:44):
Amen are y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
We are joined for our Level Us Up segment by
Latasha mar Sean and Latasha. I came across Natasha on
the interwebs, okay, because she has organization called Jump Up Books.

(01:21:25):
It's all about children's literacy. And when we find ourselves
in a nation that is championing ignorance, not just in culture,
but in policy. For instance, the Department of Education, as
we know, has now been dismantled and children K through

(01:21:51):
twelve education has now been moved to the Labor Department.
And I'm just gonna read what it says, just to
lead it into your segment. I'm just gonna read what
with the Labor Department says that they're going to do.
This is from the White House. This is from the
government's website. The Labor Department is committed to working with
the Department of Education to ensure our K through twelve

(01:22:13):
and post secondary education programs prepare students for today and
tomorrow's workforce demands. I don't even need to read the
rest because that is a very thinly veiled language. For
We're just gonna teach you how to be used. That's
all we're teaching you. And we know that literacy is

(01:22:38):
a key component to being able to move outside of
the realms of control. So, hello, mis Marsham, thank you
for joining us, and so talk to us about Jump
Up Books. What made you start Jump Up Books, How
you got involved in children's literacy, all the things.

Speaker 17 (01:22:57):
Okay, all right, so lots of the unpack because this administration,
Oh my god. Yes, But I've been basically a community organizer,
I would say, but I I throw my own events,
you know, I where are you based? I'm based in

(01:23:18):
I'm in Inland Empire. SnO, yeah, but I've I've lived
in Redlands before. It's kind of adjacent to here, but
it's basically in London Empire, that whole thing. And there's
a lot of California, Yeah, California, and the I e
all day shout out to all of us. Lord knows,

(01:23:40):
you know, we get forgotten.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
They only about LA.

Speaker 17 (01:23:44):
And yeah, it's real out here. They we basically move
here for all different reasons. But point is, well we'll
get there. But I have been doing community organization pretty
much on my own here in San Bernardino, for for
I mean, I was doing things back with the Public
Access Channel and that had to be like that was

(01:24:06):
like two thousand and nine. So yeah, and I would
my own money, you know, go out and give backpacks
and books, and I would just you know, I would
talk to the you know how people say, oh you
don't know your you know your who your mayor is
or who your you know, the coroner or whoever.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
I'm in their office. I was in the partner's office.

Speaker 17 (01:24:27):
I've been writing for the newspaper, trying to ring the alarm,
like hey guys, something bad is happening. And then you know,
I find out certain things about them as well. Been
to the city council meetings. I can tell you guys,
it's a mess. You know how you're dismissed. And not
only like I know that there is yes, absolutely being black, yes,

(01:24:50):
but they dismissed anybody that's not going with it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
You really get dismissed. You know, of course if you're
a black person.

Speaker 17 (01:24:55):
But I'm saying like, if you're not going with whatever
the agenda is, no, they don't have no time for you.
And then a lot of the organizations you have to
be very careful, very clique ish for whatever reason. Just
being honest, that's from a person on the ground. I
don't consider myself an activist because I feel like when

(01:25:16):
you take on that role as I'm an activist, that's
a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:25:22):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:23):
I I've done things, try to, you know, help, but
I do feel like, in my opinion, you're an activist
that's how you are.

Speaker 17 (01:25:34):
For me, I feel like I'm a person that just
wants to help, but I really want to genuinely help.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Reverse It's Yeah, the term activist makes it seem like
there's a job for it makes it seem.

Speaker 5 (01:25:50):
Like that is true. It's supposed to be a part
of your walk. Yeah, I get that. Yeah, Okay, Okay, they're.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Not they're okay, the activists.

Speaker 17 (01:25:58):
And that's what I really and saying like and honestly,
I don't and I will get to jump I'm sorry
you guys. I'm talking all over the place, but I
wanted to just land this really quickly. I think that
that's the problem that we do think that it is
something big or huge that everybody you know. But also
I don't understand, even before all the drama and the

(01:26:19):
mess that we are in, how people cannot care. There's
lots of people sleeping outside. But anyway, we'll we'll, we'll
get there. But how I came up with jump up
for School? Actually it was inspired by my daughter.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
I have.

Speaker 5 (01:26:37):
I have two daughters.

Speaker 17 (01:26:38):
My oldest daughter she was really struggling and just wasn't
finding her place, and then my younger daughter just full
speed ahead right always, and.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
I was and I was wondering, like what is going on?

Speaker 17 (01:26:53):
And they said that there's a few types of kids,
but you either have a really good test taker or
you have a child that's really afraid to you know,
just they don't really know where they're going wrong. But
something's missing from foundationally. And so we had to get
to the bottom of that found out really quickly, like
a lot of people get a little offended about how.

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
They get offended about.

Speaker 17 (01:27:19):
Things that they feel that they should know, especially and
you can be talking to anyone of any age and
I'll and I'll just give you guys some stats.

Speaker 5 (01:27:28):
So they according to the National.

Speaker 17 (01:27:33):
Education it's like a report card that comes out, it's
the National Educational Literacy Program, and they tell you of
fourth graders are not reading, they're reading on like A
they're not reading on level right, and then the proficient
children they're reading on like A they're not proficient. It's

(01:27:57):
just they've lowered the bar so low that proficiency.

Speaker 5 (01:28:01):
Actually isn't what it's supposed to be.

Speaker 17 (01:28:05):
And the crisis that we're all in that they keep
calling a literary crisis, we're all in it. And this
is a very few people It takes critical thinking, memory,
and those foundational skills to build a really strong reader,
right and practice. You have to read all the time.

(01:28:26):
Many people we just don't and a lot of it
is time. But yeah, that's that's what's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
So tell us about how jump up, Jump up.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
All these works? Yeah, okay, so so jump up. For school,
it basically is a book club.

Speaker 17 (01:28:46):
But the difference between our book club and everybody else's
is you have to unlock the next class for our
book club, and you do that by reading, and we
in within the text. You will get different keys and
different clues and they will tell you, but you have
to read the whole text and then you unlock the
next class to go to the book club.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
And it just keeps going on.

Speaker 17 (01:29:09):
And it takes a child from where they are, you know,
wherever they are when it comes to like their learning.
You know, I'm sorry, I'm getting but yeah, where they
are with reading and understanding, comprehension, all those things. And
I do partner with other educators and things like that
because for me, you know, I'm coming more from a

(01:29:32):
space of I know that we need this program.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
I know we need good teachers.

Speaker 17 (01:29:36):
I know tons of teachers and tutors and everything, and
I was, so I bring them together and they will
come up with different prompts and they'll come in and
talk about whatever their favorite book is when they were kids,
when they were their ages, different things like that, and
then they'll just you know, present it to the child

(01:29:57):
and when the kids read it and things like that,
they basically are able to unlock the next course.

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
They can move on, but we all move on as
a course together, so no child is like, you know,
sitting back there.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
So who do you feel is utilizing jump up for
school Book Club the most?

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Is it homeschool parents?

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Is it just parents in general who are trying to
supplement the literacy teaching that school is not necessarily providing.

Speaker 5 (01:30:29):
Usually it's kind of an array of all those parents.

Speaker 17 (01:30:32):
We really do try to focus on the homeschool parents though,
because they need it the most, and they especially need
the engagement because a lot of kids they lack social skills.

Speaker 5 (01:30:41):
And I know probably listen, so this you'll think I
do too.

Speaker 17 (01:30:46):
Mine is more of I'm out of my comfort zone
because I plan on being at home.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Well, you're definitely in a car and you're holding a phone,
so that doesn't make this easy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
And now you have no service. So there's that the service.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Does not.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
I don't know why what happened, but just so y'all know,
I really don't like any of you inn folk when
they sit in their car, Just so y'all know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
Because it's too many distractions. It looks crazy. I don't
know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
And then this happens because we're on the freaking cell
These cell phones they're not you know, they're not it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
I I'll wait for her to come back.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
But you know this, this is so necessary because I
don't think enough of you all understable brandan.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
I could not find that word. I was looking for
stable and it was just eluding me what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Y'all also need to understand parents who may not and
I know you might be like, you're not a parent,
don't say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
I'm gonna say what I want. School is not enough.
School is not doing enough.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
That's not a shade to the parents, that's not a
shade to the teachers. The school is literally not designed
to do enough. So you end up having to actually
have a curriculum mind around.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
The child.

Speaker 2 (01:32:35):
That's not just an extracurricular activities. That's also in how
you exist, how like you're raising your home. I will
say that I was raised in a home that had
a curriculum. I wasn't just going to school when I
was home.

Speaker 1 (01:32:52):
There was always education present in my zeitgeist. My room
always had books.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
I was always given toys that had education aspects to them.
I always had Sesame Street or picture pages. No I
mean Shade, but I always had Zubale Zoo. There was
always educational programming present for me, and I was also

(01:33:24):
given access to listen to adults speak.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
So I was also not simply just around students.

Speaker 2 (01:33:32):
Or kids, right, So I was able to also hear
like adult conversation and not adult conversation like you know,
things that are that are inappropriate, but.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
Simply just mature learned like learned people talking.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
And I know that that is a huge reason to
why I also developed the way that I am. My
mom never spoke to me like a kid. It's not
to say that she didn't have a softness, but she
never spoke to me likedget like she would ask me
like what do you want.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
So yes? And why it's free?

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Like I heard more words and I was always being
challenged to think like I remember, because my mom is
a nurse, Like I couldn't say someone has.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
A baby in their belly. I had to say they
have a baby in their womb.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
I remember always being corrected with and uh, saying I
couldn't say uh Nikia and me, it's NICKI and I
it's Nikkia and I.

Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:34:39):
And then I was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Also along with being read to every single night, I
was also tested.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
I don't know test is the right word.

Speaker 2 (01:34:51):
But my mom had this book called The Student's Companion,
and so you know, she made the concept of learning interesting.
So whether it it was about learning like types of
geography and names of animals, etc.

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
Etc.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Like that was always present in my zeitgeist. And then
I was always reading at a higher level than the
class I was in because my mom was also always
doing additional reading. There was always work books. There was
always something else. And let me tell you something. If
you got to bribe your children, then bribe your.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
Children do this work. But but and I'm gonna give
you some ice cream.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Fine, people be acting like.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
No, they have to want to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
No they don't, No, they don't. You don't want to
go to work, You go to work? Because there's a
check on the other side. Now, Latasha, why are you
in the car?

Speaker 17 (01:35:49):
I am in the car because I have a husky
that is seventy pounds and it's the holidays, so usually
super quiet, right, but my neighbors are having people over
and he's flipping out. So and look, and I went
to the library. I tried to get a private room.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
It's booked, and I'm like, this is what it's gonna get, like,
this is what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
Why?

Speaker 5 (01:36:13):
And then what's worse is I stayed up like for days.
I know exactly.

Speaker 17 (01:36:18):
You know how Jumble for School works. We help kids
write their own books. That's the goal, and basically they
unlock chapters as we go. Okay, so we write all together,
all in the same room. Even the parents get involved
with this.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
So this is not simply about reading. It's the fact
that literacy is also about writing.

Speaker 5 (01:36:40):
Yes, that's what I do.

Speaker 17 (01:36:42):
I wrote my first book in twenty ten, I self published,
and I learned very quickly that writing is rewriting. You
have to like, no matter how much you think you're
paying attention to detail, get those extra people in the room,
have focused groups, all that stuff, and we do all
of that with the kids, all of that editing, writing,

(01:37:04):
they go through the whole process, and we partner with
local book clubs take the kids so they can get
you know, sign books and do all that, get the
whole author experience.

Speaker 5 (01:37:16):
Yeah, that's that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
I mean, I think it's so necessary to point out that, y'all,
literacy is also writing because that's the element I think
so much in the US people are missing, right that
you can read, but you can't write, so you can't
even understand what you're reading.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
And that's what it's about.

Speaker 17 (01:37:38):
It's the comprehension part and and and also memory with
because you can read all day, but if you're not
retaining that, that memory has to be sharped.

Speaker 5 (01:37:49):
So the more you do it, it's like a muscle
you exercise it. That's the main thing.

Speaker 17 (01:37:54):
And having educators in the room with the kids, helping
them step by step, like you know, whatever they're uh,
whatever they're missing. And then there's also kids. I'm like,
we have an eleven year old and she's I tell you,
the toughest interview I've ever been on was with the
eleven year old because she's like, did you read this?
And have you read this, and did you you know?

(01:38:16):
And she's on it and she's and she's like, you know,
I really I don't mind helping other kids, but hey,
you know, basically I do this. So and she ran
her own book club in her school, so you have
to meet and and and her her her mom's watching,
so hi, Jazzy, and Josie.

Speaker 1 (01:38:36):
Said, are you do you have the criteria?

Speaker 16 (01:38:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Yeah, for real?

Speaker 17 (01:38:41):
And I tell everybody that her. And then we have
a little two year old. He's not in the book
club yet, he's two years old. But this little boy
is so smart. His name is Oakland. Shout out to
him and his mom, so sweet, super smart. This his well,
his mom is an educator and so but but I
also want people to know we have kids that struggle

(01:39:02):
to so don't think that you know, oh my gosh,
because I just don't put a lot on oh my
kid is so smart. It's like, are they a good
test taker or you know, are they really enjoying what
they're doing, because you know, that's the main thing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:17):
I mean, I was a good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
Short answer test taker. However, once you give me multiple choices,
I'm like, what are we doing?

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
What are we doing? If you can see and getting
out of there.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
Yeah, let me write an essay.

Speaker 2 (01:39:38):
Now, Look that's me. That's me all day. If I
can write an essay and another thing.

Speaker 17 (01:39:43):
I know you may not think that today, but you
know usually if I get an interview, I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
No matter what it is, no matter what it is
you're sitting in.

Speaker 2 (01:39:53):
We're fascinating that you're sitting in a car that's not moving,
but you have a seatbelt on.

Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
That's what we're fascinating about. Of course, you know what.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
I love that And listen yourself every day.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
If that is to hold you right, like the seatbelt
is just to hold you like a weighted blanket.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
We respect it.

Speaker 18 (01:40:11):
Let me tell you, Let me tell you.

Speaker 17 (01:40:14):
Okay, I have a friend and she was in a
park car and somebody just came by and hit her.
And the guy flew through the window, but her window
but not her. I'm telling you keep your seat photo on.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
What are they say?

Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
It's the law and it's a.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Good idea, yo.

Speaker 2 (01:40:43):
Now, Like I'm my g I e mm completely tanked
on the mask, but that was all was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
But I got a perfect on the essay, right.

Speaker 17 (01:40:52):
And you know what, I rarely need people that are
great at both. Rarely it's either one or the other.
But I think and another thing that we do we
talk about our toolbox. You reading is not just I
read this type of book, I read this thing, I.

Speaker 5 (01:41:08):
You know, whatever it is.

Speaker 17 (01:41:09):
It is literally everything that you're put in your toolkit
like anything else. If you want to lose weight, if
you want to whatever it may be, whatever your goal is,
you're gonna have a toolkit. Even in therapy, when I
went through therapy, my therapist was like, Uh, you're gonna
need your toolkit.

Speaker 5 (01:41:22):
You know, are you doing all the things? Are you
drinking the water? Are you you know, all of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
So what would you say are some of the toolkits
that you're putting together for the kids in terms of
literacy that we do.

Speaker 17 (01:41:33):
The first thing that I do is I tell them
that this is a living, moving organism, right because I
think that you got to try it is a multi
pronged undertaking. Okay, so you got to try a lot
of things because everything does not work on the same child.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
Everybody's gonna get a syllabus of course.

Speaker 17 (01:41:51):
And just kind of tell them, you know, these are
some of the topics that I would like to get
to and talk about. But individually, I'm getting to know
the child is so every child is going to want
it to need to know a different thing, so the
prompts are going to be different. But I also tell
the other kids that are in there, hey, we got
to make space for this person, because I think that

(01:42:14):
we really get caught up in I did this before,
I've done that before. So I do a lot of
unlearning with my program. It's a whole lot of unlearning
because if you come in there with the attitude of well,
I already know this, so why am I doing this.
I do have an exercise where I have them tie
their shoe, no matter who they are, even if they're
learning to do it, and the reason that I do that,

(01:42:35):
And then after I have them tie the shoe, I
teach them something new that they don't know. They will
have the same reaction, same frustration, same anger.

Speaker 5 (01:42:45):
Everything with both tasks.

Speaker 2 (01:42:48):
And I'm like, so you're mad about something that you've
mastered and you're mad about something you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:42:53):
Know, and it really is a very equal, you know, leveling.

Speaker 17 (01:42:58):
Yeah, yeah, but we need programs that are out of
the box, that change, that are not so stringent, because
our children aren't stringent, you know, they're they're human beings
and and they're just trying to figure this stuff out
and you know, they're just not where we are. So
and even oh and I wanted to share this as well,

(01:43:18):
also all of us depending because there's a few types
of learning systems that they tried. The first one was
it's called structural or standard, right, And that's the one
that is where they'll show you the first letter of

(01:43:38):
every word and the last letter of every word and
in a text, right, and then they want you to
look at the look at.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
The picture and assume what that word is.

Speaker 17 (01:43:51):
Okay, don't worry about the middle, right. And they taught
people to read based on that, and that's insane to me.
That's like teaching on vibes. In my opinion, that's not helpful.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
And they did and they instead of teaching phonics, you
know how we learned to read? There you go, they
they don't.

Speaker 17 (01:44:17):
They stopped teaching phonics and started teaching that way because
a guy said, oh, the kids just need to be
around reading and they'll pick it up and they'll get it.
And so when you're looking around and I'm not talking
about in a few cities or states.

Speaker 5 (01:44:31):
I'm sorry, a few states.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
No, no, no, this was done.

Speaker 5 (01:44:34):
Now.

Speaker 17 (01:44:35):
I we had phonics and we had all that. But
I do know when my when my uh uh my
daughter was was young, they were talking about site words
and I was like, what, I don't do that, No,
I don't do that. And they were reading cat in Manhattan.
They were like, you know two and four, you know

(01:44:56):
what I mean? And I and I do think that, yeah,
I mean, I can't even say I think they did
a disservice to so many people.

Speaker 2 (01:45:05):
So I'm learning Arabic right now on dual lingo, and
I do need to advance to like an actual teacher. However,
I can absolutely say that the reason I'm picking it
up is because it's a phonetic language, and I there
learned how to read via phonetics sonics.

Speaker 5 (01:45:23):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 17 (01:45:24):
And that's the thing, like, you're not you're not messing
with those building blocks. Phonics is just.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Any sense to not learn phonics, That's what I'm saying.
And words are just just the fact that he said
that that you can basically just be around books and
people that read and don't worry about the words in
the middle.

Speaker 17 (01:45:46):
Just put whatever word you want in there and it
says some detriment. And also just sharing same statistics, same
you know, same studies. They're saying that people that are
in college getting masters degrees and beyond, they're saying that
they don't they can't read either.

Speaker 5 (01:46:06):
They're not proficient either.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
And I'm like, what, let me tell you what work
this is.

Speaker 2 (01:46:14):
Also, you can't write, and now we have texting and
chat GBT, et cetera, et cetera, and so, and I
think a lo lot of people are missing about not
being able to write is you cannot tell your own story,
You cannot speak your own experience.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
You don't have the language to be able to communicate, right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
So, like I was teaching our class at a community
center and I was speaking to the one when the
little girls next.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
To me, and she was like, you know, I don't
like emotions. I don't like emotions.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
And I was like, well, I'm aware of this because
someone in the class got emotional and you ridiculed them.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
And she was like.

Speaker 1 (01:46:49):
And I was like, so, what is a better way
that you could have managed that next time?

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
Where you may feel uncomfortable by someone else being emotional
and she was like, tell them to stop.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
And I know that is not the correct answer.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
However, I was like, I think the reason why you
may be uncomfortable with their emotions is because you can't figure.
You can't understand them. You don't have a lie for them,
a language for your own emotions. And so I was like,
you know, that's something that you have to understand, is
that we're losing communication and the ability to communicate is

(01:47:29):
so imperative to our capacity to exist in our fullness. Right,
So you're teaching these achildren, You're you're giving these children
an opportunity to have a full a full existence by
even giving them the ability to communicate.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Now, how are the to this because I know they
learning at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:47:49):
You know, I've had so many parents come to me
and share some things, and I'm like, wait, about their
own literacy experience, about their own literacy, about things like
I didn't really know how to read, but I pretended,
and my mom couldn't read, so she didn't know, and
so I would just be saying words and she's like, oh, yep,

(01:48:12):
sounds good.

Speaker 5 (01:48:13):
And I would get a whooping if I didn't read.

Speaker 17 (01:48:16):
So there's that a lot of trauma around reading, a
lot of teacher a lot of teacher hurt.

Speaker 16 (01:48:25):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 5 (01:48:28):
But also people that haven't really really yeah, and that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
That's what I call it because it took me so
long to I always wrote poems and everything. I'm one
of those one of those kids, you know, right, really sad,
you see, you feel me and that's why I'm oversharer
and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
But yeah, so words are very important to me.

Speaker 17 (01:48:51):
And so yeah, when I got in high school, uh,
I finally met a teacher and literally she was awesome.
She lived down in the mountains then have a TV,
and she was just so and I was like, Okay,
I gotta do this. Yeah that's what I you know,
what saying, I gotta do this. So yeah, and I
and I think that with the parents, I just hate

(01:49:13):
to hear the word and they all say it. I
just don't want them to be bored. I don't want
them to be bored.

Speaker 1 (01:49:19):
They say that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
They'll tell me about, oh my God, like I do
I do in depth surveys, okay, yeah, and they'll tell
me about all the behavioral problems, how they're you know,
not paying attention to school, how they're upset or or
you know, oh they're so bad or whatever the case
may be. And then the men and I tell them, well,

(01:49:40):
I have this great program and this is what we
do and literally, you know, we help kids do this.

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
And they will be like, well, are they going to
be bored?

Speaker 1 (01:49:49):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
My class the other day said he was bored, and
I said, maybe it's because you're boring, and you know,
and I think, and we got a whole class or
our supplies and guess what, we got it together together.

Speaker 17 (01:50:10):
Right, And and I do think that that's like that
word has been used so much. That word is used
back in our day, you know what I mean, like, oh,
you know, I'm bored or you know, as if it's
just this horrible thing. I'm like, you can be bored
for a minute, because if you're waiting for somebody else
to learn, whatever it may be, I'm not saying the
whole thing. Like, trust me, we do karaoke. We have

(01:50:31):
so much because remember karaoke, you're reading, you're reading.

Speaker 5 (01:50:35):
The words, you know, and you're seeing the words.

Speaker 17 (01:50:38):
Yeah, there's so many different ways to teach kids how
to read. You guys like yeah, and so yeah, but
I'm bored.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
You know what I mean, like I don't want to life.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
Okay, Like also like you're not bored, you're just not
stimulated right now. And that's very true, like providing that language.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
I mean, we are also feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
You know, these kids are also dealing with a lot
more stimulants and distractions, et cetera than us. So what
are some ways that you've had to adjust in how
to meet those differences? Okay, So we have a lot
of kids that have some some serious things going on
at home, right and for me.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
I make sure that every single time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
We have any type of meatup, we have food, I
do food, and then we talk and we do this
thing and.

Speaker 17 (01:51:29):
It's basically it's called pontificate pontificating, and it's just a
big thing.

Speaker 5 (01:51:34):
You know.

Speaker 17 (01:51:35):
We just sit there and we just think and we
think of ideas. And they don't, you know, they don't
necessarily want to talk about what's.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Going on at home.

Speaker 5 (01:51:41):
Sometimes sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

Speaker 17 (01:51:44):
So we do this thing and and I you know,
it sounds real boogie and they get all excited, you know,
they think, oh, what is that and what we're gonna here?

Speaker 5 (01:51:51):
Think people need to pontificate. This is a pontificating.

Speaker 6 (01:52:00):
That.

Speaker 17 (01:52:02):
Yeah, so there's so many ways you can teach kids
like get out there, you know. And it's the thing
we're called jump up for school, not because we think
that we like, I never want to be a school.
I don't ever want to be dealing with the rules.
And you can't teach this because you're teaching that, or
who you can teach me. That's not what it should be.

Speaker 15 (01:52:24):
No.

Speaker 17 (01:52:25):
No, the minute you get caught up in the oh,
I'm gonna go whatever, you know what I mean, nonprofit
or whatever you're going to do. The minute you do that,
you're literally just subject to Okay, well, only these kids
get to go here, you know, and only they get
to do this. And it's just like, Okay, if I'm

(01:52:47):
frustrated because I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:52:48):
Doing good in a class and you know, maybe I
don't like who I'm sitting next to or whatever, the
last thing that I need to do is to come
home or whatever or go to a program and be
told Nope, you can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:04):
No, you can't participate, you don't have the grades up.

Speaker 17 (01:53:06):
You don't know, you don't know why we need more
people to focus on the people that need the help no.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Matter what.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
You guys, So address your questions to Ms Marshall. You
know how we do in this classroom.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
You know how we do in this class We say
Ms Marshman, extra, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
While you were doing that. So I'm in the process of.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
Developing this character and a project called Readers, and I'm
trying to figure out So the idea is that every
other note she'll do a book report about a radical
children's book, and she'll always do.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
A song and this is this is Oh, she's so cute,
she's a rarah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
And so I'm I'm still like figuring it out and
what I want yeah to consist of.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
So my usice you is in a space of literacy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
So I love that you said on tip Kate. So one,
I love that it was just like the kids are thinking.
But two, I have to have every episode a segment.
We do a word of the week episodes segment here,
but there always has to be a word of the
show segment.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
Yes, you know where we're using the word and I
mean on Sesame Street. There used to be like the.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
Word of the day, I mean, sorry, the letter or whatever. Yes,
it would be filtered down the show, So I want
to do that with a word. But I want to
have any other any other tips that you feel like
should be included in my little prow that you think
is really helpful to kids and parents around livings, Okay,

(01:54:54):
around literacy. Okay, I'll make it about literacy because I
had a tip form that it was really good that
I I think and this just goes to this just
goes to how kids think.

Speaker 17 (01:55:03):
Okay, So if you have a small kid, and I
got this from super Nanny years and years ago, Okay,
if you have a small child and you take them outside,
well before you know, you go outside, it's cold outside whatever,
and you want to put on their jacket. Take that
child outside because when they're in the house it's warm,
So they don't understand why you're putting a jacket on them.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
Take them outside, let them feel a little bit of
a cold. They'll know they'll need a jacket. That's the tip.
Because they don't understand why are you putting a jacket
on me and I'm warm. They don't do.

Speaker 1 (01:55:38):
So translate that to me in this context.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Okay, I gotta make a kid understand I got to
put them I got to create the scenario for them
to understand the point.

Speaker 17 (01:55:51):
Yes, yes, yes, really curious minds, adults and children. They
need to know the why I'm a person. I need
to know the why some kids they're.

Speaker 15 (01:56:02):
Just do it?

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
Do they eat?

Speaker 5 (01:56:06):
Man?

Speaker 17 (01:56:06):
Let me tell you That's why when I when I
wrote under your comment, I said, you need your flowers, girl,
you need your flowers, because people don't understand like I
feel like, in a way, we're not the you know,
we're not the same, but we have so many similarities
in the facts of when I tell you, like I
am always the one that's standing up or saying something

(01:56:29):
out of turn.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
I'm the person that's always.

Speaker 1 (01:56:32):
Like, no, we can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
Yeah, they're like, oh, here's you come.

Speaker 5 (01:56:36):
Oh she gonna tell us that. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
I don't like the way you do that. I don't know,
especially when it comes to kids. I'm the first one
to be like, no, advocate advocate.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
For store over somebody's Yes, why are you talking like that?

Speaker 5 (01:56:55):
You want to make me mad?

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
No, your business is happening in front of my face.
If you didn't want you want me to mind my business,
you to made it my business. That's a two year
old that you're yelling to stop touching things.

Speaker 1 (01:57:06):
Anything.

Speaker 2 (01:57:07):
It can I'm telling you at my at my at
my job I used to be at I'm telling you
it would be like I don't know, we would get
like fourteen hundred parents a week, every single day.

Speaker 17 (01:57:18):
We would get like tons, tons of people. And I
can count on the on one hand who I would let.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
It not like not to be that, Like it's not abuse,
it's just it's like they almost something something going on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:35):
Yeah, yeah, like what the hell were you talking to?

Speaker 5 (01:57:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (01:57:42):
And kids they need, you know, they need to feel
a sense of respect too, and it just doesn't. It
never happens, just that sense alone people are what are
you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:57:52):
Like, no, they really do you guys? We have to,
you know, they need their sense of person. There's still
a person to.

Speaker 2 (01:58:00):
Give a homework assignment at the episode for the parents
to do with their kids, a writing assignment, because I
feel like I forgot about the writing element. That it's
not just about I forgotten about writing elements, and especially
if you get them, especially if you get them to
write about something they're interested in, like themselves or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:58:23):
Because a lot of time we want to shove a
book in their faith.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
I'm telling you they want to talk about them most
of the time, or they absolutely don't.

Speaker 5 (01:58:30):
Let me just say you something.

Speaker 2 (01:58:31):
I'm at a point in my life where I really
just want to tell my mom about what I'm doing,
and she wanted to talk about politics. I'm like, I
called you to talk about myself.

Speaker 5 (01:58:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so I know absolutely feel.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
The same way.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
I'm like, I don't want to talk about yeah, Kyla Harris,
Etceteraiter I'm talking about.

Speaker 5 (01:58:49):
That what you do all day?

Speaker 6 (01:58:50):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Yeah, yeah, I'm telling you to tell you about what
I got going on. That's what the conversation is. That's
kind of yeah, accept it.

Speaker 5 (01:58:59):
And years off I'm like, no, I literally I was
putting together.

Speaker 17 (01:59:05):
I don't know why I keep saying literally when I said,
I need to take that out of my vocabulary.

Speaker 2 (01:59:08):
But here we go my crutches, you know, we do. Yeah, Like,
oh my gosh, I'm such a value girl. Like and
then she was like and then I was like, and it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:19):
Was like, what is that California thing? It's the California.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
It gets to you.

Speaker 5 (01:59:25):
Yeah, but I was gonna tell you and then I
forget it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
No, you just opened up the whole world for me
because when I'm gonna talk while you remember because it'll
come since you're not. Okay, So when I was looking
at when I was researching for this show, I was
looking up like book report assignments, right, so just see
like what they would ask for kids and the book.

Speaker 1 (01:59:49):
Oh my god, my dog is.

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Just that.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
All the time.

Speaker 17 (01:59:54):
That's why I'm not at home right now because that's
what my dog is doing constantly.

Speaker 5 (01:59:58):
I'm like, what is going on?

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
So I'm like, okay, I'm looking at these book report
assignments and they're all super dup basic, right, They're just
like setting characters like what happens in the book. And
I'm like, that's not a book report. That's just like

(02:00:22):
the I don't even know what to call that. But
it made me say, like I want to design one
that is actually more involved because what I'm what I
really am starting to realize is that so much of
our learning, in terms of academia and intellectualism, is very
disaligned and disconnected from morality, from ethics, from principle, from values, right,

(02:00:47):
and we only see that thinking in like religious schools,
so to speak.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
But even that is just a very very narrow mindset.

Speaker 5 (02:00:56):
It is, it is.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
I think I think I was very fortunate to have teachers.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Who would be like, this was the right thing to do,
like for a character, right, Like they would actually like
attach morality and attach like ethics and life lessons. And
so when we're reading these books with our kids, it's
not just about being able to read, it's about reading
between the lines and also being able.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
To understand the allegory.

Speaker 5 (02:01:22):
Absolutely absolutely, And that's the thing.

Speaker 17 (02:01:25):
They had college professors that were saying, these kids don't
know compare and contrast, and you want me to try
to teach them, you know, about world history or anything
like that. And also he's you know a lot of
people they lead They say, oh, well, present the information
and let them make.

Speaker 5 (02:01:42):
Their own decision.

Speaker 17 (02:01:43):
He says, no, somebody needs to guide them because when
they see actual facts, they're like no, because they think
that facts are up to their interpretation and they're not.
And then what's even worse, they think that's what critical
thinking is, it's up to their interpretation, and that we
have a lot of cracks, a lot of cracks.

Speaker 2 (02:02:05):
This is so you know, like you're you're a blessing
in many ways, but me selfishly, I'm say you're a
blessing for this project I'm working on because I know
that I have to approach I have to like fill
a gap. I've decided that I'm going to save the world.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
So I have to feel it. So I have to
fill a gap.

Speaker 6 (02:02:26):
With this that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
That is missing.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
So like you have like mimss Rachel who really gets
to the kids in terms of yes, like prides a
disciplinary element to it, but she also provides like social skills,
but she also provides like just.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
Like an entry way into understanding what is what right.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
However, the critical thinking aspect is not that's not necessarily
like her jam, but that is something that I'm trying
to figure out how to implement because I want this
show to be multi generational. I want you as a
parent to watch because you also like, let me hone
my little skills. And so when you talk about comparing
with class, it's like my character raw Rah needs to

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not just be talking about characters, as this is the
character she needs to implement compare and contrast.

Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
She is the protagonist.

Speaker 2 (02:03:17):
She is the antagonist, right like these types of things
absolutely her opinion.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
Name three facts from this book.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Name an opinion from this book, like the things and
these are so these are things that you're pointing out
to me that I just do by rote because I'm
listen trained, but that you're right in the breakdown.

Speaker 1 (02:03:40):
It's like, we got to break it down back to fundamentals.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
Yes, yes, everything, everything, because you will already said it
a million times, but it's the fundamentals.

Speaker 5 (02:03:50):
Okay, so you tie your shoe.

Speaker 17 (02:03:53):
Just always remember the anger and frustration that people feel
with very basic things. It's why we have the explosions
of the you know, the parens and the magazine, the
whole shebang, and even you know, like people in our
own lives.

Speaker 5 (02:04:07):
You know, some people you can't tell them like, hey,
you know, you're driving a little fast.

Speaker 17 (02:04:13):
They just what what are you talking about? Snap your
you know ready, we got to deal with that. And
a lot of it is that I know, I call
it the I know disease. I know I know I
have the I know disease.

Speaker 5 (02:04:28):
We all.

Speaker 17 (02:04:30):
You know, it's it's the I want to call it.
I wanted to call it first world, but I've been
calling this place, you know, this world. Yeah, we're in
a whole different dimension.

Speaker 2 (02:04:43):
We're not even in the galaxy right now they version
of wakness, you know, which is really in for a
lot of people, like because they're realizing.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Like, oh it is bad, like I didn't just make it.

Speaker 5 (02:04:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:04:58):
So you have a question from the Great kag Man
who says Ms. Marshan is teaching who, by the way,
is demonstrating to you all exactly how I want questions.

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
To be written. Ms Marshan Comma is teaching.

Speaker 2 (02:05:11):
The story graphs, important characters, plot, conflict, climass resolution to
help with critical thinking.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
I believe it is.

Speaker 17 (02:05:20):
Absolutely even when we're not only just talking about, you know,
teaching the to build a story or anything like that.

Speaker 5 (02:05:28):
Everything that you do.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
We talk about character building and world building and does
it make sense?

Speaker 5 (02:05:34):
And it has to have a conflict.

Speaker 2 (02:05:36):
You have to have a character that you know, before
it was just like oh you got to have the
boy that likes the girl and the whole she bank.

Speaker 5 (02:05:43):
But I'm trying to get kids away from that. I
think that, and I don't. I'm not like a brooded
like old kids should be.

Speaker 17 (02:05:50):
I'm just saying there's other stuff, like there's so many
things to write about, and why do we got to
go back to that so yeah, I'm telling you guys,
I feel personally just with the people that I've partnered with,
and you know, the development of this, you know.

Speaker 5 (02:06:08):
It's it's a really really good thing.

Speaker 17 (02:06:11):
And I tell people and they also say, if your
child is not reading, you know, to the level that
they're supposed to by fourth grade, do you know that,
they say that it's pretty much done.

Speaker 5 (02:06:21):
And I'm like, absolutely, no, it's not. They say, it's
extremely difficult to teach.

Speaker 3 (02:06:25):
You.

Speaker 17 (02:06:26):
Well, we got a lot of teaching to do, and
we want to get those first and forced in there
as well, because look at what we're I mean, if
this is what's the roots are one of the roots.

Speaker 5 (02:06:37):
Of all this, let's get it out now.

Speaker 17 (02:06:40):
I've been one and two for so long, and I
called so many preschools, and if I would have recorded it,
do you know, the like the lady who recorded when
she was calling the church, If I would have recorded
me calling these preschools, schools, all this stuff, they basically
told me we have our own program, No, we don't
need it. Heard the whole spill and it wasn't all
you know how it's been here, you know, heard the

(02:07:02):
whole thing, And they said, we do our own thing.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
And I was literally floored.

Speaker 17 (02:07:06):
I was like, I'm looking at your statistics. You don't
what you're doing is not working, but you want to
keep doing it. And then you just have kids to
show up. The teachers are bankrupt because they're like depleted
because they're trying to teach. Think about all the things
that I broke down today. They're teaching, you know, piece

(02:07:29):
by piece to thirty something kids up either a class
or you know, if they're changing. It's just a lot
and you have a lot of challenges.

Speaker 2 (02:07:38):
Your damn your don't write, like, so you'll have a
class and like some of those kids in that class
they may not be as advanced, so you're leaving them behind.

Speaker 1 (02:07:45):
But then you have to who are more advanced, and
you're also leaving them behind.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
You are then you have the kids who are limited
by other things, whether it's neurodivertence or ADHD or what's
going on at home, et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (02:08:00):
Like everybody gets left behind because there's just isn't enough.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
Yeah, and I find that there's there's like you said
that I know is so often attached to capitalism too, right,
because it's like if we take on another program, then
it makes us look like we're not effective.

Speaker 5 (02:08:22):
And yes, it's like a weird skew ego ego ego.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
I'm telling the best thing I ever did for myself
is to drown, like seriously drown the ego. Yeah, we
have to, because I'm telling you, and you know, it
stems from being highly criticized one of the reasons.

Speaker 17 (02:08:43):
Of course, I'm not a psychologist, but that's what I've heard.
You guys, it stems from being constantly criticized. You get
to where you have a hyper like inflated sense because
you're protecting yourself.

Speaker 2 (02:08:55):
You know, I say, you're protecting yourself all day, all day, Yes,
all day, and that's but.

Speaker 5 (02:09:07):
It always takes one to know.

Speaker 17 (02:09:09):
I get it because I used to do a radio
show and you know, of course I didn't have any
type of audience how you do. But I'm saying I
used to do a radio show for like ten years
I did. I did ASMR before people were even doing it,
and now look at it. It's just exploded, right, But
I like the calmness of it. That's I had to
you know, I was trying to tame the beasts because
I can be a mess. You know, not so much anymore,

(02:09:29):
but back in the day.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
You gots listen, I mean, but that's bro, that's MYRT maturation,
you know. Like I was talked about that this morning
on Patreon, just about how in the past there would
be things that I felt, but I didn't have the
language for which brings us back to communication, right, and
so I would end up still going forth with a
red flag because I didn't trust my feeling and I

(02:09:52):
also didn't have language, so I would just doubt that
I had a real reason to not go forth. But
then the red flag would did you with blossom?

Speaker 5 (02:10:02):
Yeah, it's okay, and that's right.

Speaker 1 (02:10:09):
All right, Let's take another question.

Speaker 2 (02:10:12):
Okay, Olivia says, what are your thoughts with children who
are dyslexic?

Speaker 1 (02:10:18):
Are their tool kits for them?

Speaker 17 (02:10:21):
There are tool kits for everybody and all any type
of dyslexia, any of those challenges are well, let me
not say all to it, because there's there's there's definitely
things I don't like to make things seem so easy.

Speaker 5 (02:10:33):
You need to take a little bit more time with them.

Speaker 17 (02:10:35):
And that's why what I call like the bonus program
like mine or something like that is so important because
they have to take their time. And also just because
you're giving space with as far as the other kids
being bored, just because you're giving space to someone who's struggling,
doesn't mean you have to do nothing.

Speaker 5 (02:10:51):
That's That's not what I'm.

Speaker 17 (02:10:52):
Saying, like they're waiting for this person or anything like that.
We have other activities that they can be and give.

Speaker 18 (02:10:58):
Though.

Speaker 5 (02:10:59):
That that's what I want to teach.

Speaker 2 (02:11:01):
And compassion so much because it's so lacking, it's so consideration,
you know, like yeah, go ahead, yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:11:14):
And kids are rushed all day.

Speaker 2 (02:11:16):
Keep in mind they said years ago kitchen be starting
school before like all this up at the crack of
dawn at five am.

Speaker 5 (02:11:22):
Kids are not wired that way.

Speaker 17 (02:11:25):
So a lot of times your kids are tired, you know,
like you got them in this and this, and they're tired, y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
Your girl used too.

Speaker 17 (02:11:35):
Yeah, I'm telling you yeah, and and and I'm an insomniac.
I've always been my whole life.

Speaker 2 (02:11:42):
So I'm like going to and and literally because I
have like if anybody can tell you, guys know, I
got you know.

Speaker 5 (02:11:51):
And like everybody like everybody, but I'm telling you, like.

Speaker 2 (02:11:55):
Staying up all night and all that stuff, and then
you gotta go to school, and.

Speaker 17 (02:12:02):
I gotta I gotta be a person right right, you know.
And then on the weekend, and then if you get
a parent that's churched and they want.

Speaker 5 (02:12:11):
A church, you.

Speaker 2 (02:12:15):
Not church yet they want to church because I told
you we're unlearning a lot of things. We are. Do
you have another question from at the eighty eight Ms Marshaan,
do you have to be in San Bernardino to volunteer
or participate with your literacy program?

Speaker 5 (02:12:32):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 17 (02:12:33):
We we actually are virtual right now, so you don't
have to be in sam Bernardino at all.

Speaker 5 (02:12:42):
But I do ask that anybody that comes to volunteers.

Speaker 17 (02:12:45):
One thing with everything with me is joy, no matter
what's going on. If you have that joy and you
love kids and and not in you know, the creepy way,
because you know, we do get there the stuff going on, Yeah,
please contact me.

Speaker 2 (02:13:01):
And one thing I want to also say before I leave,
I really am probably gonna have to do a go
fund me because I want to install these cameras that
you can watch your child at any time any parent
like it's you know, not in.

Speaker 5 (02:13:16):
The restroom or something like that. But you can watch
your child and know that your child is okay and safe.

Speaker 2 (02:13:21):
And that's for the people that are going to be
in person with anybody that's with Jump Up for School.

Speaker 1 (02:13:26):
Got it?

Speaker 5 (02:13:27):
I So just that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:29):
Yeah, well, miss Marston, thank you so much. People.

Speaker 2 (02:13:33):
If you want to get involved with Jump Up for School,
you can go to jump Up for School book.

Speaker 1 (02:13:41):
Club dot com. Is that accurate?

Speaker 15 (02:13:44):
You know what?

Speaker 17 (02:13:45):
I want to just tell them go to Jump Up
book Club at Gmail because we're redoing our website, Jump Up.

Speaker 5 (02:13:54):
Book Club and just at Gmail.

Speaker 1 (02:13:56):
And just send you a message and just send me
one and you'll you'll have it.

Speaker 17 (02:13:59):
Yeah, you'll have it to So yeah, so jump up
a club, you guys. My oh that's another thing. My
prices are very affordable. So yeah, and people were mad at.

Speaker 5 (02:14:09):
Me about that.

Speaker 17 (02:14:10):
So because it's not a come up for me, they
were so they okay, So where I worked, it was
out you know, docs and myself they had that's what
they did. They actually provide the funding for childcares and

(02:14:30):
things like that, right, So that's why I was able
to survey so many kids and stuff like that and
parents and so they when I came up with my program,
they were like why is it so cheap? And I
was like, well, because they were expecting, you know, these
high end, high end prices. And I said, well, I

(02:14:51):
have always everything I've ever made has been for working
what I you know, working for or you know under you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 17 (02:14:59):
That's what it's always been about for me. And they
had a huge problem with that. And I think that's
because maybe they thought I was gonna impede on what
they had going on. Maybe they thought I should go
and compete with higher you know, in places I have
no idea.

Speaker 1 (02:15:16):
So they were upset with me that you weren't charging anymore.

Speaker 5 (02:15:20):
Yeah. Yeah, not my job. I don't I don't want
to say that, but we're not interacted with parents. Not
my job. My job was just so happy that it
for me pretty much.

Speaker 2 (02:15:30):
Yeah, but no people that I and a lot of
the daycare, Yeah, because they think that it should be
like six and seven hundred dollars a week like daycare.

Speaker 5 (02:15:43):
And I'm like, we only meet like once a week.
It's not it's a it's an hour.

Speaker 1 (02:15:48):
It's overpriced, exactly.

Speaker 17 (02:15:50):
Way overpriced, way overpriced, way but you know, it's like
all the prices have to come down, like everything everything.

Speaker 2 (02:15:58):
I mean everything, it's just crazy. Yeah, but no, I
try to make it super affordable.

Speaker 1 (02:16:06):
Well, we appreciate you. Shout out to your dog. What's
your dog's.

Speaker 2 (02:16:09):
Names His name is van helsing shout out out here,
killing the deal is doing what needs to and thank
you for being on a mission, not a come up.

Speaker 1 (02:16:26):
So you all you know this is but this is
what it needs to happen.

Speaker 2 (02:16:30):
And it's and I think a lot of people also
feel like, oh, like you have to have some big
organization to be able to make an impact, to be
able to create these programs. But that's what it's gonna be.
This is also a part of community building. It's not
just feeding it. Well, it's not just housing people. We
also have to be teaching each other.

Speaker 5 (02:16:52):
Yeah, we gotta. We're in charge of the next generation,
you guys. So it's just us.

Speaker 1 (02:16:56):
We always got all that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:59):
We all was so much Latasha and shout out to
a keeping us abreast that we should have the seat
belt across our breasts even if we are in a
stationary car.

Speaker 5 (02:17:11):
All right, that's right, things happen, says safe all.

Speaker 1 (02:17:17):
She says, says, day got there.

Speaker 2 (02:17:22):
Man, that was awesome literacy. We are in the twelve
thirty hour. It's twelve thirty right here. I've used for
a Mandoland shouts everybody who has been joining us here
on this Wednesday, the day before thanks taking our question
of the week. Our bonus question is how and when
did you learn that Thanksgiving was not what you were

(02:17:44):
taught in school? So want you to leave that in.

Speaker 1 (02:17:48):
The comments below and be a part of that.

Speaker 2 (02:17:52):
So you know, we are about to get into our
sixty second headline, so we have a lot more show left,
just so y'all know we have sixty second headline.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
We've got.

Speaker 2 (02:18:03):
Possibly a black haired news, and we know we definitely
have a black eired news, and we also have a
critical thinking exercise. But I want to get into our
how black do you feel her die?

Speaker 19 (02:18:28):
Because for you to move from the problem to solution,
that's a process of thinking. Are not allowed to think,
so they jump. You're supposed to jump from problem to solution.
But who did the thinking that produced the solution you're implementing.

Speaker 1 (02:18:43):
It's the West.

Speaker 19 (02:18:45):
So what the West is really saying is, here is
the solution. Why are you thinking? Why are you wasting
your time thinking? Will the woman in the village care
whether you're thinking or not. What they want is a solution.
And really what they're telling us is that solution has
already been thought for us. So you adapted and implemented.

(02:19:09):
Bill Gates said that about what's her name, dan be
some Oil and to be some Oil is a fairly
conservative thinker, but even her, she was told she's evil.
There's a clip where he's saying, how dare you think
about this process of exploiting Africa? What Africans need are tablets?

(02:19:31):
You see, that's the other reason. How that's how he
thinks about disease. We need tablets. We don't need research,
We don't need to think about what our problem is.
What we need is a tablet. I have produced the
tablet distributed. So if now you, as an African, say,
but wait a minute, this disease is coming from an

(02:19:51):
environmental thing.

Speaker 6 (02:19:52):
We need to start.

Speaker 19 (02:19:54):
You know what, will you be told that's out of
your league? You know what do you mean environmental solutions?
That's not for you people, that's for us to figure
it out. Yeah, what does a woman in the village
being poisoned by nuclear waste need? She needs the nuclear
waste to go. So these questions you have about how

(02:20:16):
did the nuclear waste come to Africa?

Speaker 1 (02:20:18):
No, that's not for you.

Speaker 16 (02:20:20):
Our thinking is not for you.

Speaker 19 (02:20:22):
That's for us to do, and then we'll tell you
what to implements. It's thinking with racism does not consider
black people thinking people, so they are always trying to
remove the thinking element from anything they do and to
give us solutions and then we implement.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
I mean, I really I felt like that was also
really in tune with what William was talking about today,
you know, and just the idea that.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
I just ran up a down the stairs three times, y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:21:04):
I'm like, and Global Sisters said that's the problem with NGOs,
and I agree, because NGOs really go into these places,
they don't work with the people who are actually there.
They come in they're like, we're going to solve this.
And this is why there's such a difference between colonized sorry,

(02:21:26):
between allies and call conspirators, because allies come in there
and they basically tell you this is your problem and
we're going to fix it. It has a saviorism about
it that is really not helpful in any shapeway or form,
and that saviorism is deeply problematic because it also doesn't

(02:21:51):
allow people to be able to save themselves. So then
what happens is the NGO gets to be able to
stay there because they have the problem continually. And NGO
is really just a corporation that gets its money from
other corporations versus from the people. So they create They
may not create the problem, but they will absolutely sustain

(02:22:11):
and maintain the problem. And they don't quote unquote teach
the people how to fish, because then what would be
the use of you. So this is a very common thing.
And people were asking me this woman's name, and I'm
about to tell you in.

Speaker 1 (02:22:29):
S seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:22:38):
I actually don't know this woman's name. But she was
making sense. Okay, she was making sense. So shall we
get into our siety second headlines?

Speaker 20 (02:22:54):
Are you ready? Should we do it?

Speaker 1 (02:22:57):
Let's go sixty's news right.

Speaker 20 (02:23:04):
Big.

Speaker 15 (02:23:07):
Album?

Speaker 1 (02:23:11):
All right?

Speaker 2 (02:23:11):
So first up in our sixty second headlines is some
actual positive news. North Carolina has officially divested from Israel.
North Carolina has sold all six point four million of
Israeli government bonds held in the state pension fund.

Speaker 1 (02:23:32):
Amanda. What are government bonds?

Speaker 6 (02:23:35):
So?

Speaker 2 (02:23:36):
Government bonds are basically like investments that are issued by
a government to fund projects or cover deficits.

Speaker 1 (02:23:44):
It's essentially you being a part of their ponzi.

Speaker 2 (02:23:46):
Uh investors give a government money, okay, and then the
government holds that money to put to things that it's
not actually paying for with real money, and then you
get interest off of them getting to use your money
to apply to real things. So for those who don't realize,
we are in a debt based economy, and that debt

(02:24:08):
based economy means it's a lot of fake money that's
actually making real things happen, and the most of the
real things that are happening are not for actual real people. However,
in this case, what happened is that they forty organizations, unions,
and faith groups, including Break the Bonds and the Triangle

(02:24:30):
North Carolina JVP, Jewish Choice or Peace. They built a
coalition and they made this happen and they now join Michigan,
Minnesota's six Ohio counties, the United Methodist the United Methodist Church,
and others in divestment from Israeli government bonds. So what
this is saying is that they have divested from being

(02:24:50):
invested in Israel's infrastructure growth via bonds. Is this making
sense because this is what it don't get me wrong.
There's so many other levels. However, this is one level, right.
You're divesting the money from being able to be used

(02:25:14):
to advance. So the students at Columbia University and the
rest of these universities who are protesting saying they want
divestment from Israel, we're saying we don't want our money
that we are paying tuition for to be used.

Speaker 1 (02:25:32):
As investment in Israel.

Speaker 2 (02:25:35):
And in some cases, you have schools who are invested
in the market, who are invested in bonds, you have
schools who are invested in weapons manufacturing, et cetera. Why
schools are able to do this, I have no idea. Nonetheless,
that is a way that divestment is happening, and some

(02:25:57):
of the organizers, the organizers have said that it is
the BD movement, the boycott, divestent sanctioned movement, that led
them down this path. And I want to point out that, unfortunately,
people just seem to disregard the small steps because they
seem to think that if it isn't like the thing

(02:26:17):
that makes the whole thing come crumbling down, then it's pointless. However,
what I want to point out though, is that this
is yet another step that these folks have taken in
North Carolina to chip away at what so many have
just decided is an irremovable connection between Israel and the
United States.

Speaker 1 (02:26:36):
And it's just simply not. It's just simply not.

Speaker 2 (02:26:39):
And the fact that something has only existed for only
this connection to the United States has been since nineteen
forty eight, and people are acting like it is just forever.

Speaker 1 (02:26:48):
It's never going to change.

Speaker 2 (02:26:49):
It has to exist like it hasn't even existed for
the majority of the existence of this country. So shout
out to them, and shout out to coalition building. And
can you use a broken system to fix a broken system?
You can use a broken system to break a system.

Speaker 1 (02:27:11):
You See.

Speaker 2 (02:27:11):
The thing is is that the system that's in place
is not broken. It's functioning exactly how it's supposed to.
So the system is not broken. It needs to get broke.
All right, Let's move on to our next story. That's
the rest of it. That's the end of the good news.

Speaker 1 (02:27:32):
So the United States continues to be a colonialist tyrant.
It is no surprise.

Speaker 2 (02:27:48):
We've been talking about the Venezuela situation, right, We've been
talking about how they created a completely fabricated story of
Venezuela being a drug trafficker and thus they have to
go in and shut down on Venezuela and do regime
change in Venezuela. Now they stuck with this for all
of what maybe a month before the real truth has

(02:28:11):
started pouring out of their mouths like actual verbal diarrhea.

Speaker 1 (02:28:19):
It's actually low key fascinating the way in which it just.

Speaker 2 (02:28:28):
Seems to come out of their mouths. Nonetheless, I want
to play this video for you all, and I don't
know why this video didn't make it over to my computer.
So hold on one second. Got to send it on,
send it up, send it right back.

Speaker 1 (02:28:56):
So why is it not work? Hold on, y'all, hold on.

Speaker 14 (02:29:28):
I would love to see a change in government. My
wife's from Nicaragua. We know how terribly the dictators there
rely on Venezuelan oil. But at the same time, a
lot of Americans don't want actual US participation in regime
change in Venezuela. They would much prefer the Venezuelans to

(02:29:49):
do it on their own. Do you think the pressure
that Maduro has received will force him to leave on
his own?

Speaker 21 (02:29:56):
I believe, oh, I think Maduro is not Forre del Ca.
Stro Maduro is not a brave boy. So now that
he has understood that he's on that very nefarious list
of the terrorist organization, that the airspace above Venezuela has
been closed off and the commercial airlines from the United
States are not flying, he's understanding that we're about to
go in. He understands that he is he has been

(02:30:20):
our enemy for the last twenty five years.

Speaker 22 (02:30:22):
Venezuela.

Speaker 21 (02:30:23):
For those Americans who do not understand why we need
to go in for three basically, for three reasons, you're
in fox business. Venezuela for the American oil companies will
be a field day.

Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
I want you to let that sink in real quick,
because it will be more than a.

Speaker 21 (02:30:44):
Trillion dollars in economic activity. American companies can go in
and fix all the oil pipe and the whole oil
rigs and everything that has to do with the Venezuela
and petroleum companies or anything that has to do with
oil and the derivatives.

Speaker 2 (02:31:00):
Number two, So what I mentioned about NGOs and the
getting contracts for helping things but then never actually solving
them is a practice that the United States does consistently
with contracts outside of the country.

Speaker 1 (02:31:16):
I mean it does it here too.

Speaker 2 (02:31:17):
However, we see it in a very real way in
the way colonialism does with resources, it also uses assistance
as a resource that it continues to steal from. A
great example of this is Puerto Rico. The grid in
Puerto Rico has been problematic. It's knocked out every time
there's a storm, and it has supposedly been contracted out

(02:31:38):
to be fixed for a very long time. The companies
that have been contracted out to fix it, they don't
fix it, but they.

Speaker 1 (02:31:45):
Continue to keep the contracts.

Speaker 2 (02:31:47):
And that is the practice of the United States and
the corruption that happens in this government.

Speaker 1 (02:31:52):
And she's saying, straight up, this is what we're going
to do in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (02:31:55):
We're gonna go in and we're going to contract out
American contractors to fix Venezuela. That doesn't make any sense,
and it is also deeply problematic to the nation of Venezuela,
but also to the actual entire continent of South America.
And what it also does is it supplants Americans in
their infrastructure. It creates an expatriate community there that now

(02:32:19):
gives the United States reason to be able to come
in and invade or do whatever they want, which is
what they did in Grenada. There is an actual medical
school in Grenada. And when Maurice Bishop was using his
connection with Cuba to create infrastructure in Grenada to build
an airport properly in Puints of Leans, which is now

(02:32:40):
Mariye Bishop Airport, et cetera, they said, oh no, they're
about to connect in Venezuela as well, and they're going
to have a whole communist socialist movement in the Caribbean.
Absolutely not, We're going into Grenada, and we're going to
use the reasoning as well because we have American students
at the medical school in Grenada, so that's why we're
able to go in there. Now, Grenada depends on the

(02:33:02):
medical school for so much that they are then intrinsically
tied to the United States, which is deeply problematic.

Speaker 1 (02:33:14):
But the United States knows this.

Speaker 15 (02:33:16):
They know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:18):
That they have these small nations that they can plant
a parasitic seed in and it looks like symbiosis.

Speaker 1 (02:33:30):
In addition to what the United States is doing in.

Speaker 2 (02:33:36):
Venezuela, they are also doing efforts in on Buddhas.

Speaker 1 (02:33:44):
So walk with Me. Progressive International reports that it is doing.

Speaker 6 (02:33:54):
That.

Speaker 2 (02:33:55):
The US is doing the practiced work of again creating
a false narrative to support its efforts of destabilization and destruction. Actually,
before I go on, I want to say this exactly
what we talked about. That's happening in the Sahel States
where they ousted France, and so we actually don't need you.

(02:34:16):
We're gonna handle this. That is absolutely what the Caribbean
needs to do as well. The Caribbean needs to create
its own sovereignty in connection with each other.

Speaker 1 (02:34:28):
The reason why the.

Speaker 2 (02:34:29):
Trinidad Prime Minister is going along with the US, I
can promise you, is because Venezuela has been acting up.
That Isuela tried to encroach on land in Guyana, and
Venezuela also tried to encroach on oil in the Trinidad
and Tobago waters.

Speaker 1 (02:34:44):
That's not okay. However, there was no cohesion.

Speaker 2 (02:34:51):
Amongst the Caracom, Caribbean States, Caribbean countries that would be
able to challenge Venezuela in doing that. So instead I
went to big brother, who is actually an evil step brother,
the United States to get muscle.

Speaker 1 (02:35:08):
And that is wholly problematic.

Speaker 2 (02:35:12):
Because the United States, we know, is never working in
the interests of anyone besides.

Speaker 1 (02:35:20):
Itself. And when I say itself, I mean the oligarchy.

Speaker 2 (02:35:24):
Now, someone Mimi said, how does the US government know
exactly how to invade all these countries? Are they doing
the research NonStop on what country to invade next and
how best to do it? Yes, constantly and on a
regular basis.

Speaker 1 (02:35:39):
So there's a woman who.

Speaker 2 (02:35:40):
Does a great TED talk on civil war and she
does like a really quick TED talk on civil wars
and how these civil wars be starting. And she very
casually at the beginning of her TED talk says that
she is contracted by the CIA and the FBI to
give them a heads up on who's looking most ripe
for civil war. And she has a whole template on

(02:36:03):
what are determinate factors of civil war. And basically there's
like a metric, you know how, there's like the orange level,
red level, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (02:36:10):
She has that metric that she goes by.

Speaker 5 (02:36:14):
And so there is a.

Speaker 2 (02:36:15):
Constant intelligence gathering that is happening. People are planted.

Speaker 1 (02:36:19):
All over the world.

Speaker 2 (02:36:21):
People are absolutely operatives. I mean, the show Homeland is
a perfect example of this. Carrie on Homeland is a
CIA operative to bring back intelligence to the United States
about what is happening on the ground in countries so
that they know exactly where to go, exactly who to disrupt,

(02:36:41):
exactly who to destabilize.

Speaker 1 (02:36:43):
Another example of this.

Speaker 2 (02:36:44):
Is if you watch the show and or this season,
in the storyline of Gore, the Planet of Gore, there's
a whole storyline about the fact that the way that
we're going to destabilize this country is we have to
have somebody in there who is an operative that is
feeding us information from their resistance groups.

Speaker 1 (02:37:07):
They do this all day long. They do this all
day long. That is how they stay alive.

Speaker 2 (02:37:15):
And that is why the political education ends up being
so necessary, because the political education can also build up
people being able to challenge and not be swept up
into this nonsense. Another good book to read is Washington
Bullets by VJ. I can never pronounce his last name,

(02:37:41):
hold On Rolando put it in the In the chat
by VJ. Pshad I always want to say for Shanka,
and that's not what it is. So I was talking
about Honduras and basically Honduras is on the brink, the
US being on some new bs as well. This is

(02:38:04):
very disrupting and disturbing to me because it is once
again the time loop that I told you. We are
in that time loop in so many ways, and in
Central America is no exception. So there was a coup
in Venezuela, I mean in Honduras in two thousand and
nine that the US is rumored aka factually was a

(02:38:29):
part of. Okay, This coup that took place in two
thousand and nine was executed with the coordination of US
military officials, support from Washington, and it removed a democratically
elected president and it unleashed more than a decade of

(02:38:52):
an authoritarian drift. So you just had over and over
and over again dictators and people just coming in trying
to get some semblance of PA.

Speaker 1 (02:39:01):
But this is now getting.

Speaker 2 (02:39:03):
Reared back up because Honduras, which is right here, okay,
So it is between El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala.

Speaker 1 (02:39:15):
I love saying tegu galpagus Gala, the capital of Honggula says.
So you see where it is in proximity to Mexico.

Speaker 2 (02:39:27):
You see where it is in proximity to the countries
that the US claims are the site of all the migrants.

Speaker 1 (02:39:36):
So last week, that same lady who you just saw. Okay, she.

Speaker 2 (02:39:45):
Hosted folks in DC Honduran political figures, including presidential candidate
Salvador Nasraidya. So that lets you know that's who's going
to be the puppet, okay, Savagodasraya, he was invited to
the United States by that same lady to have a meeting.

Speaker 1 (02:40:08):
You already know that's the puppet.

Speaker 2 (02:40:11):
The meeting, by the way, was chaired by that lady,
and it was supposedly an intervention in Latin America, framed
as an urgent assessment of the situation in Honduras, when
really it was a preemptive aka manufacturing consent, questioning of

(02:40:38):
the legitimacy of their electoral institutions. They're already casting doubt
on the democratic process, so you see, they start this up,
they plant the seed of the lie. If you've ever
read Othello, the turning point in Othello is when Othello
and Iago are standing around they chitchat hanging out, and

(02:41:00):
then Cassio, who was like a very handsome but very
harmless bruh dude, that's like in the castle, it seemed,
talking to Desdemona, who is Othello's wife, and Iago being
a little messy one says to Othello, Huh, I like

(02:41:22):
not that that plan succeed in Othello, Like wait, you
feel like that's a problem. It's like yeah, I mean
while he's talking to her, mind you. Athella wasn't even
shripping before.

Speaker 1 (02:41:39):
A fella was like, that's this Semona. That's my girl,
that's my wife. Like I love her. I'm a more
she a white girl. But we make it it happen.

Speaker 2 (02:41:46):
No Iago was like, let me cast some doubt because
Yago is trying to take over.

Speaker 1 (02:41:53):
He's trying to get power. This is very little finger behavior.
This is what the US does. This is manipulation. This
is co intel pro. This is all that behavior. This
is psycho this is psyops. Co intel pro would create.

Speaker 2 (02:42:10):
Disorganization and destabilism, destabilizing between black leaderships of different factions
of the Panthers and different organizations.

Speaker 1 (02:42:19):
By doing the same h I like not that thing.

Speaker 2 (02:42:22):
They would just like drop a little dime like mmm,
he looked like he trying to take over your spot,
and that right there triggers the brain. Like what I
believe is that humans are not evolved like they'll say
humans are evolved because we like live in societies or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:42:41):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (02:42:42):
Whales live in societies, right, Dolphins live in societies like
lions of societies. They'll say humans are evolved because oh,
we have language. Will other animals have language? Like, again,
dolphins have language, Wales have language, elephants have language.

Speaker 1 (02:42:57):
So that's not that they'll say humans are because we write.

Speaker 2 (02:43:02):
Okay, because we write, I will say this, humans are
not evolved because we write.

Speaker 1 (02:43:11):
That's just something that we do that they don't do.
Other animals do things that we don't do.

Speaker 2 (02:43:15):
What I will say is that I don't believe humans
will be evolved as a species until we evolve out
of that animalistic wiring of looking at vulnerability as a
way to capitalize, until we evolve out of the animalistic
wiring of always feeling like the prey or the predator,

(02:43:45):
Like the fact that all it takes is for someone
to cast a shade of doubt for you to be like, oh,
I'm over it, I'm off it. We about to turn
up like that's scary. That's not strong, that's not strength
of mind. That's wiring. That is a chink in the
armor of your wiring. That is a vulnerability of your wiring.

(02:44:10):
And somebody knows that and said, I'm going to capitalize
on that. So when I talk about the work that
I'm doing as I'm on the book tour, the work
is to try to decolonize us and strengthen our wiring
to not be susceptible to these types of behaviors, these
types of manipulations.

Speaker 1 (02:44:29):
You have to find out where your vulnerabilities are, where.

Speaker 2 (02:44:31):
Your weaknesses are, where your triggers are, so that you
can where your triggers are, where your triggers is are,
so that you can be in control of how you
are able to be susceptible and manipulated. And our movements
are consistently susceptible to be manipulated because they have vulnerabilities
in these places. And I deduce that a number of

(02:44:52):
these vulnerabilities would be solved if we had deeper connection
to spirituality and indigenous knowledge.

Speaker 1 (02:44:58):
These are the vulnerabilities of a capitalist, of a opportunist,
of a patriarchal society. I'm kind of cooking right now.
I'm kind of cooking. Look at a risk, Look at

(02:45:19):
a risks, Chris, look at the risks. Listen. I got thoughts.
I got thoughts. If y'all just let me think. Listen,
this is this is the first time.

Speaker 2 (02:45:31):
In almost two years where I'm not writing, because you know,
when you're writing a project, it's like having an app
that's always on draining your battery because even when you're
not writing, you know you're supposed to be writing, so
it's just always on.

Speaker 1 (02:45:51):
So this is the first time where I.

Speaker 2 (02:45:52):
Don't have an app draining my thoughts all day. It's
not draining my energy all day. So I have a
little bit more Like last night, I had three hours
where I didn't have anything immediate to do, so I
was able to think, I was able to draw, I

(02:46:15):
was able to idate, and unfortunately I'm not going to
be able to get the calendar together for this year.
I'm going to stick to my plan where I'm going
to make what would the ancestors say, coloring book, work book,
and I think y'all are going to enjoy that just
as much. By the way, so as we're talking about Hondudas, Venezuela, etc.

(02:46:37):
I want to shout out the hon Duran people because
as this is happening right the Honduran people are continuing
to show democratic resolve. They're mobilizing peacefully but mobilizing for
their rights, they're defending their votes, they're getting extreme intimidation,

(02:46:57):
and they're really trying to chart a path for political
and so we have to continue to lift them up
as we lift ourselves up and really deconstruct the wall
that separates politics from livelihood and lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (02:47:34):
That is one of the key things that we.

Speaker 16 (02:47:36):
Have to do.

Speaker 2 (02:47:38):
We have to break down that Berlin wall, that that
lu's the wall, that border wall between politics and living.

Speaker 1 (02:47:47):
It is fake, it is false, and it is not
made for you.

Speaker 2 (02:47:51):
There's a lyric in the song self Therapy by Goodie
Mob and they say, sometimes I wonder was the wall
well to.

Speaker 1 (02:48:01):
Keep folks out or to keep us in?

Speaker 5 (02:48:11):
Say that.

Speaker 2 (02:48:14):
Okay, someone said stop telling people what to do, so
I have kicked them out. This is literally my show.
I can tell people whatever I want. You can just leave,
but I've removed them, so they left, all right. The
reason why this political information is also this political education

(02:48:37):
and the work that the Hanjurids are doing is also
so necessary is because this is able to happen. This
United States nonsense is able to happen because there's still
so many people that are one livelihood intrinsically, like they're
inextricably linked to the United States.

Speaker 1 (02:48:55):
That's a fact, but also too.

Speaker 2 (02:48:58):
Because people still believe the United States is like moral,
or like they know what they're doing, or like they're
coming from some type of high horse of vibration, and
it's just simply not true by no means. There's literally
no example, Like I had a meeting. I'm looking for
a logistics company so I can take fulfillment off of

(02:49:20):
my plate because I'm I would be able to do
much more work for the people if I didn't have
to do the fulfillment.

Speaker 1 (02:49:26):
For my products, because that is what allows me to
be able to do the work for the people.

Speaker 2 (02:49:30):
So I'm trying to find a fulfillment company, and ideally
I don't want to use a big company. I would
ideally like to use an individually owned company. And so
I had a call with this person and he's from Canada,
and I was like, well, you know, I understood the logistics,
I understood how the company works. But then I said,

(02:49:50):
so what are your politics, cause I need to understand
what you're you know, who you're who I'm working with.
And he was like, well, I don't have politics, I'm
from Canada, and I was like, oh, and he was like,
but I will say this, your country is the best
country in the world. It's about if you genuinely want

(02:50:16):
to figure out how to make this happen, because I
think about it a lot, and you've said it before,
if you genuinely want to figure.

Speaker 1 (02:50:24):
It out, the DM me and when he said that,
both me and THEIA were like.

Speaker 5 (02:50:47):
And I was like.

Speaker 1 (02:50:49):
No, And I was like, why do you think that?
And he was like, because you have everything. You have
all the things.

Speaker 2 (02:51:01):
And to be quite honest, when someone said that they
don't have politics, I don't consider that to be a
good answer when they're like, you know, I take all products.

Speaker 1 (02:51:14):
I don't have any judgments about products.

Speaker 2 (02:51:18):
Oh, I thought you were sending me the eyes easide
out because you had mentioned before that you wanted to help.

Speaker 1 (02:51:22):
You were like, I really wish I could help you
with logistics.

Speaker 2 (02:51:24):
So I thought the eyes was about me saying I'm
looking for an individually owned contractor to handle logistics. That's
why I thought the eyes were But now I realized
that the eyes were me saying.

Speaker 1 (02:51:35):
Something about the guy.

Speaker 2 (02:51:37):
So I ended up saying, you know, my gut was like, no,
you can't work with this person. But that's really a thing.
People really think this country is like very special. So
we're sitting here talking about how the United States is
infringing upon a democratic election in Honduras. This is not
the first time, and yet people still think that the

(02:52:02):
elections in the United States are fair.

Speaker 1 (02:52:05):
Make it make sense? Can someone help me make it
make sense? Make it make sense? Make it make sense.

Speaker 17 (02:52:18):
That is not.

Speaker 1 (02:52:21):
That's not a logical thought process. It just isn't.

Speaker 2 (02:52:27):
The reality is that if they're doing it overwhere else
everywhere else, they're starting here. They practiced it here before
they went anywhere else. Probably, so Tiny Spicy Pickle says,
So they're neutral. And here's the thing. Nobody's neutral. Nobody's neutral.

(02:52:48):
Nobody's neutral because if someone comes to them from a
non neutral party and has something to say to them
about me, they're gonna be like, oh, all right, we'll
just remover. Nobody's neutral. That's why, like when I do
shows and I do events, et cetera, I have to
be very particular about where I do these things because
I need to do that with folks who are not neutral,

(02:53:10):
Folks who have an actual backbone and a big stick.
When he said that my immature brain had it went
out and I had to snatch it. Bet, my immature
brain went in many places and I had to snatch.

Speaker 1 (02:53:31):
I had to snatch it.

Speaker 6 (02:53:32):
Beat.

Speaker 1 (02:53:41):
Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (02:53:47):
Next up, I don't know if you all know this,
but the EPA, the Environmental Protection Association Agency, they have.

Speaker 1 (02:54:01):
Just approved PIFAs. So PIFAs are basically forever chemicals.

Speaker 2 (02:54:09):
They're chemicals that they have not scientifically figured out how
to remove. They cause cancer, they cause asthma, they cause
all types of health issues. And the Trump administration has
just moved to approve a new pesticide that has the

(02:54:31):
forever chemical as nective ingredient. Please tell me why we
even have no pesticides that are being made with this.
So it contains a chemical called iso cyclocerium, and it
would be used for agricultural crops, for turf and ornamentals.

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It's also not just used for industrial and commercial it's
also used for domestic sites.

Speaker 1 (02:54:56):
This is just like Roundup. We saw the case. This
is a cancer that came from round Up.

Speaker 2 (02:55:01):
They lost mad money, not that it even matters to them,
but we lost mad people because of using this very
particular type of pesticide, and here we have these.

Speaker 1 (02:55:14):
People doing it all over again. This is the fifth
This is the fifth.

Speaker 2 (02:55:25):
PFA pesticide ingredient that the EPA has proposed for approval
during Donald Trump's second term.

Speaker 1 (02:55:34):
He hasn't even been in office for an hour. I
mean that's ah for a year. He hasn't even been
in office for a year.

Speaker 2 (02:55:49):
And I want to remind you that in other countries
they do not even allow our food there because it
is so treated with chemicals. So some of the things
they are going to be using this on are like broccoli,
lawn grass, and some of the cancers that the CDC

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has linked to these types of forever chemicals are kidney
and testicular cancer, and then also low birth weight, high cholesterol,
and pregnancy induced hypertension.

Speaker 1 (02:56:29):
They're trying to kill us.

Speaker 2 (02:56:31):
And again it's the people who are working in these
spaces that are going to be the ones who die
first and foremost.

Speaker 1 (02:56:41):
Lettuce, it's just impossible. Foods is banned in Europe. How
about that? Kimberly said. They allow some of it here
in Colombia, but it has huge labels that.

Speaker 2 (02:57:02):
Say excessive sugar or fat or no nutritional value, and yes,
with waters, the US is just toxic all around.

Speaker 1 (02:57:13):
Okay, so last, but not least, y'all. That means all
of them files. That means Donald Trump is all up
in an IFC files.

Speaker 23 (02:57:35):
Okay, I'm gonna be honest with you, guys. I actually
went through the files this weekend in depth. Donald Trump
is not only named over and over in them, he
it has discussed this trial in which he was accused
of raping a thirteen year old at Epstein's house. There

(02:57:56):
is extensive discussions about a subpoena of Donald Trump. In
one of Jeffrey Epstein's cases in which he was accused
for rape and sexual abuse. He was subpoenaed and gave
a deposition in that case. There is extensive discussion between
Donald Trump, Elaine Maxwell, and mister Wolf about not only

(02:58:19):
Trump coming to his house, but you know, Epstein says
in these emails that he has photographs of Trump with girls.

Speaker 1 (02:58:28):
Bruh.

Speaker 2 (02:58:34):
So I'm not surprised. What I'm surprised about is that
they left it in there. That's what I'm actually surprised about,
because I absolutely thought that they would have redacted beyond measure.

(02:58:55):
That's what I was expecting, and instead.

Speaker 1 (02:59:02):
They really just let it all hang out. That was
not the best Nope, that wasn't the right language.

Speaker 2 (02:59:17):
So I believe that this is again how they're going
to remove from Trump from office. And at one point
in time I thought the removal of Trump from office
was going to be against his will, but I actually
think that it is by design. And I say this
after seeing him with Mamdani and how he was like,

(02:59:38):
oh me a fashist, I don't care, he tells himself
all the time, and I think that this is literally
like he's fine with this. Vance is going to be
so much worse Sandy one billion percent. However, I do

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know that people think that once Trump is gone, all
problems will be solved, and that's why you have someone
like this jack hole Hillary Clinton running around saying, we
got the problem is Trump. We got to get Trump
out of here, which is such a very base and
like puddle.

Speaker 1 (03:00:18):
Level analysis, it's just not accurate. The actual depth of where.

Speaker 2 (03:00:25):
The control is coming from goes far below Donald Trump.
So I believe he will be out here very very soon.
I think they may allow him to do one year
and then that'll be that. However, I'm pretty sure that
this is all a setup to just like, Okay, we're now,

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we're done.

Speaker 1 (03:00:49):
Now we're done.

Speaker 2 (03:00:50):
But he will get the opportunity to die free, which
is something that some of our greatest examples of freedom
fighters have not had the ability to do. Which brings

(03:01:11):
us into black eared News. Just so, the ancestors are

(03:01:38):
leaving us, they're packing up, they're heading out.

Speaker 1 (03:01:45):
And we lost three this week. We lost three. This week.
We lost h Trap Brown, also known as in My
I'm jamil, I mean, I'll I mean. We lost.

Speaker 2 (03:02:07):
Viola Fletcher, who is one of the last remaining survivors
of the Telsa massacre.

Speaker 1 (03:02:13):
And we also lost Jimmy Cliff.

Speaker 2 (03:02:16):
Now I can't play Jimmy Cliff's music because of the
way that YouTube be doing, but I can at least
h sing you some Jimmy Cliff songs, which I will

(03:02:37):
do when I find the Jimmy Cliff picture that I
just downloaded. I just be thinking I've got things like
just sewn up, and then it's like, no, you don't.
You're not organized. You thought you were organized, but you're not.

(03:02:57):
So I apologize to get it together. In two point
two seconds, y'all, where is it. Stand by, I apologize
for this.

Speaker 1 (03:03:20):
You can get it if you really where's oh, I
know the problem?

Speaker 16 (03:03:37):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (03:03:42):
All right, guys, just so patience. M hmmm. Because the
heart of they come, the hotter they fall. What I know,
one and all many rivers to crawl. But I still

(03:04:09):
haven't foun.

Speaker 6 (03:04:13):
My we.

Speaker 1 (03:04:18):
And I've got many rivers to crown.

Speaker 2 (03:04:27):
Boss.

Speaker 7 (03:04:30):
Oh baby baby, it's a wild world. No, no, no,
got to get had it's up on a smoger. Hell,
oh baby baby, it's a wild world.

Speaker 1 (03:04:44):
Got to get bad juger.

Speaker 2 (03:04:51):
Got the work can do and it's begging my heart
didn't too. You can get it if you really won't.
I'm missing one too. I'm missing one. There's one more.

Speaker 1 (03:05:14):
It's on the tip of my tongue, and it is
I can see clearly now.

Speaker 2 (03:05:25):
The rain is gone.

Speaker 4 (03:05:29):
Hey, hey, I can see how stickles in my way.
There we go, Jimmy Cliff, because.

Speaker 2 (03:05:47):
The holiday come, the hold they fall one.

Speaker 1 (03:05:51):
Day night, so resid piece of Jimmy Cliff, one of.

Speaker 2 (03:06:08):
The greats, adding consistently to the reggae canon and continue to.

Speaker 1 (03:06:15):
Perform, you know, for years and years and years and years.
So really, just I'm.

Speaker 2 (03:06:23):
So fortunate that we got to experience his gifts. We
also lost Viola Fletcher, one of the last remaining survivors
of the Tulsa massacre.

Speaker 24 (03:06:36):
Vola Ford Fletcher. I'm a survivor of the Tulsa Race massacre.
Two weeks ago celebrated by one hundred and seventh birthday. Today,
I'm visiting Marshton Day see for the first time in
my life. I'm here seeking justice and I'm asking my
country to acknowledge what happened in Tulsa in nineteen twenty

(03:07:00):
one night of the massacre. I was awakened by my family.
My parents and five siblings were there.

Speaker 1 (03:07:08):
I was sold. We had to leave, and that was it.

Speaker 24 (03:07:12):
I will never forget the violence of the white mob
when we left our home. I still see black men
sin being shot, black bodies lying in the street. I
still smell smoke and see far I still see black
businesses being burned. I still hear airplanes flying overhead, I

(03:07:36):
hear the screams I have lived through the masacre every day.
Our country may forget this history, but I cannot. I
will not, and other survivors do not, and our descendants
do not. When my family was forced to leave Tulsa.
I lost my chance of an education. I never finished

(03:07:57):
school past the fourth grade.

Speaker 2 (03:08:06):
Viola Ford Fletcher passed away this week at one hundred
and eleven years old. When I hear people say we're tired,
I'm just so tired. And we have Viola Ford Fletcher,
who fought till the day of her death to continue
to amplify and to demand reparations for what the people

(03:08:27):
of Tulsa experienced. I scoff at you all who talk
about we're tired. You tired, You better get busy because
there are folks who have come before us. That again,
as I say, and what would the ancestors say, but that,
as I also say, over and over to you all

(03:08:49):
left us not our freedom but a fight for our freedom.
We also lost former black panther and political prisoner h
Rap Brown this week, Black.

Speaker 3 (03:09:01):
Cout, I direct your rep brow of course races the
bell I think has done it again. But that's not
gonna end the burn and then burn in endo in Detroit.
But because we build the country up and we will
burn it down.

Speaker 20 (03:09:12):
Hope is in all.

Speaker 18 (03:09:14):
Burn down at school.

Speaker 3 (03:09:16):
The series I ain't got to tell a black volks.

Speaker 6 (03:09:18):
With the baron did you tell them to shut or
did I tell them to.

Speaker 20 (03:09:21):
Burn down Detroit?

Speaker 1 (03:09:22):
Did I tell him?

Speaker 3 (03:09:23):
Did I tell the American bring black people here?

Speaker 20 (03:09:25):
Can tell the lady bird I say, they give me
a gun and.

Speaker 16 (03:09:28):
Tell me you mine?

Speaker 20 (03:09:29):
Any guy like you.

Speaker 16 (03:09:35):
Talking about you Democrats? And the Democrats got you in
the biggest trick going.

Speaker 6 (03:09:39):
They tell you now or fault.

Speaker 5 (03:09:41):
It's the Dixocrats.

Speaker 16 (03:09:42):
It's no such thing as a dixoncret The only difference
between George Wallace and Lyndon Johnson is one of them's
wife got canceled.

Speaker 3 (03:09:50):
It works off the military industrial complex, which means that
it's profitable to wage war. And unless you you know,
devise another plan, another scheme to sustain are to boost
its economy, then it's going to be necessary to wage war.
Whether you know a black individual is in office or
white individuals in office. Well, we're talking about the compete,

(03:10:12):
a changing system. If mister Cleaver did win the election,
do you think that he could have conducted the presidency
in a unique manner that may not be you know,
compromising the system you speak of, No, because you, as
I said, the system and dictates the response of individuals. See,
individuals do not influence politically, economically, socially. The attitudes are

(03:10:36):
functioning of the system. Well, the politics as we know
it here in this country is not the answer.

Speaker 6 (03:10:43):
What is. I think there has to be a re
evaluation of politics.

Speaker 3 (03:10:47):
There are definitions of politics that are relevant to black people.
Sherman Miles says that politics is war without bloodshed, and
war is an extension of politics. I think Black people
have to begin to advest themselves to the politics of
revolution as we are callary struggle, whether you want to
believe it or whether you.

Speaker 6 (03:11:04):
Want to be or not.

Speaker 3 (03:11:06):
So I think, you know, black people have to begin
to say in a revolutionary fashion and create and construct
it politically. Revolutionary people recognize and the poor people recognize
first what it takes to get the man off your back,
what it takes to get freedom.

Speaker 16 (03:11:22):
In America, I say violence is necessary. Violence is a
part of America's culture. It is as American as cherry pie.
American taught the black people to be violent. Each time
a police officer shoots and kills a black teenager, that
is urban crime. You see, we recognize America for what
it is, the Fourth Reich, and we tell America to

(03:11:46):
be un notice because if you are gonna play Nazis,
black folks ain't gonna play j Black people have to
begin to identify with the word.

Speaker 1 (03:11:53):
Black and with other black people, not negroes.

Speaker 6 (03:11:56):
You don't decide what I am.

Speaker 16 (03:11:59):
You see, animals and slaves are named after and buy
their masters.

Speaker 3 (03:12:04):
Men name themselves right. Better way to enslave a man
than give him the vote and call him free. See
it does not profit black people. Are poor people anything
to have the vote and not be able to select
the candidates.

Speaker 6 (03:12:18):
So they want to choose.

Speaker 3 (03:12:19):
Now, how can you choose between London, Johns and Nixon,
agnew Wallace and Hushbrey. There is no choice.

Speaker 6 (03:12:27):
Evil is evil, There's nothing in between. That there was
some lesser candidates. Gregory was running for overs Cleaver.

Speaker 3 (03:12:37):
I think the vote can only be used as a
tool of organization. We can only use the vote to
organize our people. Now, to really believe that we can
put someone in office and that these people would be
responsive to our needs, it's naive, politically naive, because even
if one of the black candidates who ran for office
was to take the office of president, then black people

(03:12:58):
must be prepared to fight against that person. Why the
cost you see, the system mandates the action of the individual.
The individual does not determine how this country will function.
This country works off the military industrial complex, which means
that it's profitable to wage war.

Speaker 20 (03:13:13):
And unless you you know, devise another plan, another scheme.

Speaker 3 (03:13:16):
To sustain to boost this economy, then it's going to
be necessary to wage war, whether you know, a black
individual is in office or a white individual is in office.
But we're talking about a complete, a changing system crime.

Speaker 16 (03:13:32):
You see, we recognize America for what it is.

Speaker 2 (03:13:41):
So h Rap Brown was convicted of robbery and did
five years in Attica. Later in his life, he was
then framed and convicted again to serve life. While in prison,

(03:14:09):
he became Muslim and became a mom Jamil Abdullah al
Amin and I did not realize that he died in prison,
However he did. He was denied medical care. He had

(03:14:34):
cancer and cancerous tumors that were visible, and though there
was quite an effort to get him the care that
he needed. He was a political prisoner. And part of
our political education is understanding that there are political prisoners

(03:14:55):
in the United States. And some people seem to think
that that only had under some type of like fascist regime.
That's like in the streets being fascisty in that way.
But however, this has always been a fascist regime that
has always subjugated and suppressed and repressed individuals who challenge it,

(03:15:16):
and not just black people either. Let's never forget Kent State.
So recipes to all of these folks who, through their
lives gave us encouragement through their music, through their words,

(03:15:37):
through literally just their existence, and them moving from this
realm into the ether is a gift for all of us.
It means that our energy source, of our ancestors has strengthened.

(03:16:02):
So you must strengthen your connectivity to that energy source,
to that knowledge base by going in nature, by meditating,
by allowing yourself to have stillness, by asking questions, not
just questions like oh, what's going on? By asking yourself questions,

(03:16:24):
talk to yourself. So maybe lift them up. Maybe lift
them up, and consider ourselves so fortunate to even have
their physical presence available to us to even.

Speaker 20 (03:16:49):
Address they want to stand in the way of every
move forward.

Speaker 16 (03:17:04):
The only way you can think about your people's struggle
is when you are involved in your people struggles.

Speaker 2 (03:17:07):
You're going to have to change how we relate to
each other as human beings out their unity.

Speaker 1 (03:17:26):
The welcome.

Speaker 2 (03:17:49):
Ah alright, it's time for our critical thinking exercise of
the week, and this week's critical cool thinking exercise.

Speaker 1 (03:18:03):
Is why do we question mom Donnie?

Speaker 14 (03:18:17):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (03:18:18):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (03:18:20):
That was for our ancestors, Isabelle. Isabel requested that air
horn for our ancestors. So our question is why do
we question mom Donnie? So first I want to just
show you all a video, and then we're going to

(03:18:41):
have a conversation.

Speaker 22 (03:18:54):
Prats win the midterms? Do you want to see Leader
Jeffries become.

Speaker 1 (03:18:57):
The Speaker of the House?

Speaker 5 (03:18:58):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (03:18:59):
Okay, that was a firm quick answer, so you leave
plenty of time for my final answer.

Speaker 6 (03:19:07):
Look for.

Speaker 22 (03:19:18):
Terms, do you want to see Leader Jeffries become the
Speaker of the House. Okay, that was a firm quick answer,
so you leave plenty of time for my final answer.

Speaker 2 (03:19:29):
Look, what's good, y'all? What's good, y'all? It's your means
MC check ahole, And I'm here to talk about zorron.
Mom Donald's.

Speaker 1 (03:19:51):
Zorn. Mom Donnie is.

Speaker 2 (03:19:54):
Out here, and y'all, I'm really feeling some type of
way about full asking questions.

Speaker 1 (03:20:02):
So we gotta talk about this, you feel me because
your man's is give me. Your man's.

Speaker 2 (03:20:16):
Is a politician, so he's gonna be questioned. So let's
start with that.

Speaker 1 (03:20:22):
But first and foremost, hold on, hold on, hold on,
let me get this right.

Speaker 5 (03:20:29):
Let me get this right.

Speaker 1 (03:20:30):
So we're gonna start with that. But I also gotta
take us into a whole other realm. I So I
want you to walk with me while we get into this. First,
let's keep it a buck. Many of y'all do not

(03:20:51):
pay no attention to your candidates. I let's just let's
just we let's let's keep it.

Speaker 2 (03:20:59):
One thousand and you're you not doing research on candidates,
Like all you seeing is little clips and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (03:21:06):
You just basically like, yo, dude, look cool. I like, buddy,
that's it.

Speaker 2 (03:21:12):
So one things are being said by other folks who
pay attention.

Speaker 1 (03:21:17):
You like, come on, why is he doing why? But
you're not even paying attention to the fact that you
don't even be paying attention.

Speaker 2 (03:21:31):
So it makes sense to me, I if I don't
pay attention, then I should probably listen to those who
do be paying attention, because I'm incapable of identifying a
shift of direction or consistency.

Speaker 1 (03:21:51):
Because that's really what Okay, let's put it in.

Speaker 2 (03:21:54):
Terms of dating, since all of y'all be doing the
dating thing like that, i'd I so let's let let
let's let's do this.

Speaker 20 (03:22:01):
So boom.

Speaker 1 (03:22:04):
When you hollering at somebody right, like.

Speaker 2 (03:22:08):
If I'm hollering at you, I'm I'm trying to show you,
like what I'm about me, like I'm campaigning for the spot,
so I gotta come through and I gotta put it
out there like what I'm about, Like, yo, I don't
play about my daughter. I'm all about supporting women. You
know what I'm saying, Like it's definitely like it's dumb

(03:22:29):
easy to defend women. I'm all about making sure that
the immigrants in my community is not getting ramp up
in ice like you gonna know.

Speaker 1 (03:22:39):
This about me.

Speaker 2 (03:22:40):
I'm also very much about making sure that I'm considerate,
that I'm thoughtful, that I'm considering, continuing to expand my
emotional knowledge and intelligence. This is my platforms that I'm
campaigning on for Shorty.

Speaker 1 (03:22:58):
I Shorty rock with me because I rock like this.

Speaker 2 (03:23:03):
This is what politicians is doing right like they campaigning
like yours. Shorty's the constituency, Shorty, stituencies.

Speaker 1 (03:23:15):
Rock with me because I rock like this boom. So
now Shorty like, oh, I see what he on, I
see what he on. I see what he on. And
so she gonna rock with me. But if I start
switching up, she gotta flag me.

Speaker 2 (03:23:37):
Be she gotta flag me, because if I start switching up,
you gotta look at that as one of two things.

Speaker 1 (03:23:47):
That's that's one of two things. Either I wasn't really
on it or something has got me off it.

Speaker 2 (03:23:56):
Right right, And either way it's gotta be addressed. So
when you seeing folks feel some type of way about
mom Donnelly, I know his name is Mam Donnie, but
I feel like I want to add other flavors with it.
When you know, I'm saying like, I don't know, there's
just something about like I be wanting to add other

(03:24:17):
elements Madnacles. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's just
something about that I'm not really sure. But dude, I'm
not trying to disrespect dude. It's just I'd be liking
to add a little flavor to my work, to my
food and to names and whatnot. But let me get
back to the basics. Here, So let's get to the basics,
which is the campaign. Your means campaigned on a number

(03:24:41):
of things. All right, he campaigned on Yo, I ain't
about them zios. But then he flipped and said, not
only am I gonna keep Shorty Jessica Tish being ahead
of the popos, she's the upper case twelve.

Speaker 1 (03:24:58):
I'm gonna say she gonna do a good job.

Speaker 2 (03:25:00):
It's like, why, why, why you gotta add all the
extra jazz, Why you gotta add all the extra ravel dazzle?
Just say, yo, I'm gonna let Shorty rock.

Speaker 1 (03:25:11):
We'll see how it goes. That had folks looking sideways.

Speaker 15 (03:25:18):
You means.

Speaker 1 (03:25:21):
Was like, yo, I'm not with the general side. I
don't like it. It's quite as wow. But then it
miss was out here talking about all into fotles. Ain't
the language.

Speaker 2 (03:25:39):
So it's like these types of things got folks being like, Yo,
what's really good with dude?

Speaker 1 (03:25:44):
And I'm trying to get you all to notice because
a lot of y'all don't know nothing about this, and
so it looks confusing to you. You like, yo, y'all
just picking on son, But nah, it's not that.

Speaker 2 (03:25:54):
It's that you picking and choosing what you knowing about
Son and so you can't even see one Son.

Speaker 1 (03:26:01):
Is really eclips in.

Speaker 2 (03:26:04):
Speaking of Clipse, so you miss also campaigns on I'm
gonna get you all free buses, I'm gonna get you
grocery stores, I'm gonna get you all these types of
things in in in, in, in in in the city,
right right right.

Speaker 1 (03:26:23):
Right, all right. So here he is talking about this
on the Majority Report.

Speaker 5 (03:26:26):
Check it out, and even in.

Speaker 18 (03:26:29):
The conversation around you know, the question of of primary challenges,
and you know much of this I would say it
is typically private within DSA, but everything I've said has
been reported publicly, so I might as well just write
speak about it to your directly. Is you know I
went to the endorsement forum that was considering whether or

(03:26:51):
not to endorse be in that primary challenge, and what
I said there is that this is not a question
of the ballot box of who you would rather vote for.
This is a question of how you want to spend
the next year. Do you want to spend the next
year fulfilling the agenda at the heart of this movement,
or do you want to spend it defending the caricatures
of that movement?

Speaker 2 (03:27:13):
So real quick, I just want to pop in, red Head.
What he's saying is, do you want to spend the
year doing the things that the movement talked about, like
the busses and whatnot, or do you want to spend
the year defending.

Speaker 1 (03:27:29):
Folks like Chios, who's supposed who's a part of the
DSA movement, who was riding with Buddy.

Speaker 2 (03:27:35):
But then when it was time for do Osa to say,
for Chios to say, oh, I'm trying to primary Hakim Jeffries,
who is the representative of his district, your man's Mam,
Donnie said, nah, chill. So that's what he's talking about,
red Head. He said, nah, chill, chill, because he's saying

(03:27:58):
it's more to just let Buddy ha King Jeffreys rock
because that's going to get the buses free versus she
Yo say being in there keep talking.

Speaker 18 (03:28:10):
And the decision that I made, and the one that
I shared with with other members that night as they
were considering how to participate in that democratic process, is
to maximize every chance we have to fulfill the promises
we made door after door, call after call with any
New Yorkers who had otherwise lost faith in politics years ago.

(03:28:32):
So that we can tell them that success isn't just
measured in the election we've already had, but also in
our fulfillment of the agenda at the heart of that election.

Speaker 1 (03:28:41):
And I think, oh, sorry, And I was just going
to say that I don't.

Speaker 18 (03:28:47):
Ever presume that everyone will come to the same conclusion
as me. I don't think.

Speaker 2 (03:28:53):
I So this is where you start to see folks
be like yo, because now he's like doubling down on
the joint right, and now he's talking about the strategies
for why he said hell to his men's.

Speaker 1 (03:29:12):
The thing about it.

Speaker 2 (03:29:14):
Is that his strategy includes working with Haquen Jeffries, who
we know is an a pack who ain't done nothing
for nobody but a pack.

Speaker 1 (03:29:26):
And if you don't know who Haquen Jeffries is, like,
I think this is a real good framing of your mens.

Speaker 2 (03:29:37):
Gonna stand together is real today, it is real, tomorrow
is real forever.

Speaker 5 (03:29:42):
God bless you.

Speaker 23 (03:29:45):
And I say segregation now, segregation tomorrow, and segregation.

Speaker 1 (03:29:51):
Forever, like if you ree up it.

Speaker 2 (03:30:00):
And speech from George Wallace, who was a violent segregationist,
in a speech at a pro Zio Riley, I'm looking
at you crazy, So let me break it down real quick.

(03:30:26):
One of my folks on ig he said in my comments,
a hope without a plan is just a wish. A
hope without a plan is just a wish. I say, Yo,
that's dumb, poign femo.

Speaker 22 (03:30:48):
It is.

Speaker 1 (03:30:50):
Because it's not that Mom Donnie don't got a plan.

Speaker 2 (03:30:56):
It's that the plan he's speaking of, it's not new.

Speaker 1 (03:31:02):
It's proven to simply not work. It don't work. Your
man's is here talking.

Speaker 2 (03:31:13):
About keeping Hakem in the splot so that he could
work with him to try and get the ball across
the line for the buses and whatnot. But this supposes,
this presupposes that you're dealing with practical people, fans and individuals.

Speaker 1 (03:31:35):
That can be like reasoned with. Have you seen the
way these people are like They can't be reason with.
It suggests that you can build.

Speaker 2 (03:31:44):
Coalition with genociders and genocidal supporters.

Speaker 1 (03:31:50):
These folks don't even see.

Speaker 2 (03:31:52):
Mom Donacles as a musclan, as a human. He's Muslim
Oslama like them. This process, this thought process, is not
new fans. This is the same joint that slowed down

(03:32:14):
the abolitionist movement, Because do you have white folks being like, Yo, chill,
were gonna get the what were gonna get the slave
owners to see that this is not this is shameful.
They gonna feel bad. They gonna they're gonna end slavery
because they feel bad.

Speaker 3 (03:32:30):
Nah.

Speaker 15 (03:32:32):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (03:32:34):
This is the same joint that had doctor Maroin Luther
King Jr. Like, Yo, like, we mayon that that gift
from the wire.

Speaker 1 (03:32:46):
He was like, brh, I thought, I thought we didn't
have rights cause they just didn't know.

Speaker 2 (03:32:54):
We was fly and flavorful and we was peaceful. I
didn't know we didn't have rights because these folks just
didn't like us. Yeah, the burning house be we still
in it and we don't even got health care. Now

(03:33:14):
folks will look at mom Donald's and be like, yo, Mam,
Donnie is a pragmatist. He's thinking rational. But that's reformists
and politician talk for Yo. Don't shake it up, because

(03:33:34):
then we're gonna lose everything. And they mean they're gonna
lose their positioning. It's actually the opposite. It is actually
irrational and illogical and impractical to continue to keep doing
the same behaviors even though you've already seen the outcome.

(03:33:55):
And for the record, it's not like Buddy is saying
his approach will be different. I's not like he's like, yeah,
remember when they did that before, this is what they
got wrong.

Speaker 1 (03:34:07):
Remember when they did that before. This is what they
got wrong. This is how I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (03:34:12):
And maybe ain't keeping that to himself. I don't know,
but I think a lot of y'all think these cats
is way smarter than they really are.

Speaker 1 (03:34:18):
Like, I think a lot of.

Speaker 2 (03:34:19):
Y'all be thinking that politicians is playing five D chess. Nah,
they talking with their five D chessticles a lot of
times like they just not they It don't take being
like some intellectual.

Speaker 1 (03:34:32):
Savant to be up in that splot. It's the same.

Speaker 2 (03:34:39):
It's charisma, it's money, it's audacity. So when you wondering
why we questioning mom Donnie, it's because right now he
looking a lot like trust me, bro, b.

Speaker 1 (03:35:03):
He looking like it's a lot of wishes.

Speaker 2 (03:35:07):
The plan is one that's already been proven to not function,
to not beget results.

Speaker 1 (03:35:19):
So to continue to say that's your plan, that says
to me, you don't got no plan.

Speaker 2 (03:35:24):
It's very trust me, bro, Just trust me, bro. Well,
I gotta tell you that trust has not been earned.

Speaker 1 (03:35:31):
And it's not personal. It's not personal, it's not personal.

Speaker 2 (03:35:38):
The distrust is political and for the record, it's what
keeps us safe. And it was gonna keep them on.

Speaker 1 (03:35:49):
They toes shee Man's MC checkerhole. I'm out. I'm gonna
go hang out with my daughter and talk about absolutely
none of this. Okay, hold on, let me change this background.

Speaker 2 (03:36:28):
You know, tomorrow you may be forced to hang out
with people you don't like. Tomorrow you might be at
a family gathering and you might be asked to not
bring up politics, and you might be asked to not disrupt.

Speaker 1 (03:36:55):
And I say, f that, absolutely disrupt.

Speaker 2 (03:37:08):
Disrupt about Palestine, disrupped about eyes, disrupped about Mega, disrupped
about Epstein. You could go classic and just disrupt with
the truth of what this day really is.

Speaker 13 (03:37:27):
Original thanksgiving that took place was actually in sixteen twenty
two and it was arranged as a form of giving
thanks and honor to a gentleman named Dysquantum, commonly known
as Squonto, was a patuxa tribe member. He had been

(03:37:53):
taken as a slave and lived in you for some time.
It was by the grace of Franciscan monks that heard
about he was being sold for slivery. They freed him
and it took many years for him to arrange a
way to steal his way back to his homeland. When

(03:38:17):
he returned, he worked as a jaison between the Pilgrims
and the native peoples there, not just his own tribe
who had been wiped out by death at the hands
of the colonists, as well as many plagues. He continued

(03:38:40):
to do this work, and the original invitation was in
them of sixteen twenty two to honor all of the
work he had done by the local colonists in the
original Mayflower Pilgrims community. There is some content TRIVIRTI into

(03:39:02):
how this came about. After the event Guanto actually died.
Now there are some individuals who feel that he was poisoned.
There were some individuals who feel that he became ill.

(03:39:24):
Irregardless of this, there was betrayal because as soon as
the peacekeeper disquantum passed, the colonists took liberty with and
went about massacring many of the native peoples. And the
reason for this was because he had been the peacekeeper

(03:39:44):
and had been the one who had negotiated the peace
treaties in the first place. They then felt that with
his absence, and since the local tribal basis did have
some trust of him, they no longer had to honor
those arrangements.

Speaker 2 (03:40:11):
That is grandmother Lnaissan Moonwalker of the Yuma Apache tribe
explaining the real history of Thanksgiving.

Speaker 10 (03:40:33):
History behind this holiday. Growing up, I knew that what
they told you in school about Thanksgiving wasn't true. That's
not the true story. The true story behind Thanksgiving was
after every killing of a whole village. These Europeans settlers
celebrated it and they called it Thanksgiving. But it wasn't
until Abraham Lincoln became president that it became an official holiday,

(03:40:57):
retaking time to remember are elders who lost your lives
due to what really happened. Growing up, I would be
kind of annoyed that they didn't know what actually happened
on Thanksgiving and that they're actually celebrating that that so
many people and many tribes that were lost.

Speaker 1 (03:41:16):
America.

Speaker 15 (03:41:20):
The table.

Speaker 1 (03:41:26):
Lit the table sixty second held one has a news right, great.

Speaker 11 (03:41:37):
Run it down.

Speaker 1 (03:41:42):
That was the wrong.

Speaker 2 (03:41:45):
That was the wrong music. What's up, y'all? We're about
to head on out of here. It's been a great one.

Speaker 1 (03:41:53):
Show, Your Love, Show You Love.

Speaker 2 (03:42:00):
It was gonna be a long show, but it was
a fabulous show. It was a fabulous show. Very proud
of the work that was done on this show. Shout
out to Latasha Mark Shin. Shout out to Williamska.

Speaker 1 (03:42:21):
All the way from Kenya. Man, we had a beautiful
show today.

Speaker 2 (03:42:26):
I even started cooking my dance, so man, William was cooking.

Speaker 1 (03:42:30):
Then I was cooking. But tomorrow is actually thankstaking.

Speaker 15 (03:42:35):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:42:36):
Shout out to all of our folks who drop supers.
I appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (03:42:41):
Miss Debbie safe space suit Kimberly. Miss Debbie said, I'm
gonna rehaup and get y'all not one Corey Rolando. Remember
you all can help support the work that I do
by becoming a five dollars subscriber to the Seal Squad.
That's it, It's five dollars. You get to join the
Seal Squad and join us after the show for our

(03:43:03):
after show kickback. And for all of my people who
are going to be out in the world in DC
and Maryland next week. Want to remind you that I
will be coming your way all right, So I will
be in.

Speaker 1 (03:43:19):
D C on December second.

Speaker 2 (03:43:24):
December seconds, I will be in DC and you can
see the info right here RSVP at Amandaseals dot com
or at Busboys and Poets dot com. December third, I'll
be in Baltimore. You can RSVP at Amanda Seals dot com.
Only the first forty people will get to be there

(03:43:47):
for the book talk. But after the book talk, anybody
can come to buy a book and get it signed.

Speaker 1 (03:43:54):
In DC, it's not the same in DC.

Speaker 2 (03:43:56):
Anybody can come, however, the first one hundred books purchase
get signed, okay.

Speaker 1 (03:44:05):
And I'll be in New.

Speaker 2 (03:44:06):
Orleans on December eleventh. I got to make the rest
of the flyers. I will be in Houston on December tenth.
I'll be in Atlanta December thirteenth, and I will be
in Dallas on December fourteenth, so mark your calendars. I'm
going to put up the links to the RSVP links
for those other cities over the next few days, so

(03:44:28):
look out for that. Yes, I heard y'all were on
the kickback for five hours last week, and isabel I
hope you do. I really hope you do, because all
of us would love to meet Isabelle. Isabelle in person,
don't we.

Speaker 1 (03:44:47):
All of us. And I just want y'all to know that,
so I would make it stuff. And sometimes, like I mean,
I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (03:44:57):
It's like successful or successful was not the word impactful
That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (03:45:02):
Sometimes I don't know if it's impactful.

Speaker 2 (03:45:04):
And it'll be like when I come out to see
y'all in the world that I find out that something
is impactful a lot of times, right, or it'll be
like something just kind of random happens. So something random
happened this week where a homeboy of mine sent me

(03:45:30):
a picture of some images that he spotted at Princeton.
He was like, yeah, I was at Princeton and I
saw your artwork.

Speaker 1 (03:45:45):
I was like, huh. So then I open the image
and somebody at Princeton had put up my.

Speaker 2 (03:46:01):
Somebody in Princeton had put up my ancestor calling cards
on their desk. And I have to tell you all,
this really blew my mind because I didn't think anybody
cared about my ancestor calling cards. But me, okay, I

(03:46:24):
felt like some of y'all just bought the ancestor calling
cards just because you want to support me. So the
fact that people actually not only bought the answers to
calling cards, but.

Speaker 1 (03:46:33):
Then like put them up. I don't know whose this is,
but I just want you to know. This brought like
a level of joy to me.

Speaker 2 (03:46:46):
That I haven't experienced in a long time. Like it
was like a peaceful joy.

Speaker 1 (03:46:51):
I didn't even look at this. Ray sent her ancestor
calling cards out.

Speaker 16 (03:47:00):
So just know that, like.

Speaker 1 (03:47:04):
Like I, it really moves me that the work I'm
doing moves y'all. It really does.

Speaker 2 (03:47:12):
So thank you all so much, and take it easy tomorrow. Actually,
don't take.

Speaker 1 (03:47:21):
It easy tomorrow. If somebody started with you, give them hell.
All right, if somebody started with you, give them hell.

Speaker 2 (03:47:31):
Normally I would be like, don't let them work up
your your your blood pressure.

Speaker 15 (03:47:35):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (03:47:39):
If they go low, you go loud. That is my suggestion.

Speaker 2 (03:47:50):
We have a different kind of thirty seconds of stillness today.
I shared this on Patreon, but I'm gonna share it
with y'all. And it's a moment of laughter between two
of our greatest ancestors, Ah Trap Brown and Sophie Carmichael.

Speaker 3 (03:48:05):
Please, y'all, Black Powell, I threact you're up Brown, of
course waiting the bell has done it again.

Speaker 2 (03:48:12):
But that's not gonna end to burn and burn in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (03:48:16):
But because we build the country up and we will
burn it down home.

Speaker 11 (03:48:19):
Your problem to burn down.

Speaker 6 (03:48:21):
That's cool, the serious.

Speaker 20 (03:48:22):
I ain't got to kill.

Speaker 6 (03:48:33):
I should got to get the power.

Speaker 3 (03:48:49):
And the wall.

Speaker 6 (03:48:51):
Now that's here it go. I think it's up about
the post by the post office, so we should.

Speaker 1 (03:48:56):
Why aren't checking me on anyway?

Speaker 6 (03:48:58):
So he's gonna walk a filling walking on.

Speaker 3 (03:49:00):
You're gonna give me protection from what you still keeping?

Speaker 6 (03:49:08):
Okay, sorry, And then

Speaker 1 (03:49:52):
Banion

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