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Buckle up, Buttercup, they're sofuckering to discuss a writer and editor and
a reader walk into an indie bookstoreand start an unhanged inter aliens on podcast
because why the fuck not. Ourexecutive producer has asked if we would be
willing to do a mini on whymonsters um and kind of how we discover
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that monsters were our jam. Sowe're each gonna kind of take in turn
as to why we personally like monsters, and then if we have any you
know, thoughts about why the worldhas chosen monsters, we might you know,
wax poetic on that. I thoughtyou said, whack one out for
a second. We're not. We'renot adults. Okay, I'm not.
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I'm not. I'm not redoing it. I'm not all right, Okay,
I'll say it because if I don't, I'm just gonna start laughing way too
much. Um My monsters for mebecause human men that I read about are
painfully disappointing and that's just kind ofwhat it boils down to for me.
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And they're so boring. They're boringand toxic usually and just not fun.
And yeah, that's fair, that'sfair. So for me, I discovered,
Um, I have high anxiety.We've talked about this before. I
don't generally enjoy reading anything on PlanetEarth. I don't. I don't,
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and I don't even like urban fantasy. I don't want my characters to have
cell phones. I don't want themto get in ubers. I don't want
them to have real world problems.That led me into alien romance really quick,
and in that I discovered that alot of the tropes that are common
in alien romance are things that I'mjust like, what the fuck? This
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is the thing? Sign me upwhen you got your breeding kink? That
is common in a ton of alienromances, And I'm just like check twice,
yes, you've got primal and chasing, which Victoria Abilene, who wrote
Choosing Theo, gets the credit formaking me realize that I would like to
be chased through woods by an alien. Then the other is, um,
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yeah, Human men generally suck outloud like they're just blame. So many
of the monsters that we read aboutour monstrous on the outside, but on
the inside are emotionally intelligent? AreI mean they're written by women, so
they're emotionally'dorrible teddy bears Yeah, theyknow, they know how to find a
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clit, they know about aftercare,they know not to abuse a woman emotionally.
I think taking it out of planetEarth and out of human men,
I don't make that even more realisticfor me, like a human man that's
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not emotionally toxic and knows how toget you off five times in a row.
Where's that your husband, ma'am?We know the sordid details of the
Let us specify when we say weprefer monsters we're talking about in books.
We like the guys that we havecurrently, yes, been together for it
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will be married fifteen years in March, and if he wasn't adept at the
things I need him to be adeptat, it wouldn't be fifteen years.
So, Carlota, why are youinterested in monsters? One of the primary
reasons, And news flash, it'sgoing to be coming from trauma. That
is a big indicator right there.Oh yeah, all the monsters. Things
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about monsters are upfront. It's allthays. We'll see. It's very clear,
either because it's part of the speciesor it's just they don't Monsters don't
tend to put on a front.So you if they're grouchy. They're grouchy.
If they're sweet beans, they're sweetbeans. But all the monstrous parts
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of them are what you get upfront and everything with human men, both
unfortunately in my experience in real lifeand also in books, is that oftentimes
the monstrous part doesn't come out untilmoney later, when it's too late.
And so for me, that's somethingthat I greatly appreciate, And like Jen
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said, it's they're very tend tobe emotionally intelligent. They see women as
people, just like the human loveinterest sees them as a person. Also
is that they above sides. They'regetting treated like people, they're being respected,
they're getting love and protection and security, whereas that's not very common in
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a lot of romances that take placeon Earth or are have to do with
fully human male main characters. Ithink that's why. And this is no
like once again, we don't yuckother people's yems, but like bully romances,
that kind of thing is not likenot my cup of tea, because
I just don't want to see someonebe treated that way. Well, I
get that for some people it's aform of working through trauma is to either
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write or read those type of romances, and I respect that I do,
just personally, like I've lived enoughof it. I don't I don't need
it. I don't need it ina fun time. There's a whole genre
of like cozy fantasy, which islike if I could read like cozy fantasy
with high spice, like that's whatI would be. That's exactly. That's
kind of what I'm writing, honestly, is cozy fantasy with it is we're
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deciding whether or not there will bemagic in my book, and I think
Carlotta is going to convince me thatthere will be, so I'm gonna have
to figure that out. But yeah, that's kind of why monsters. I
think it's personal to each person whythey've decided, but there is a reason
and why there are hundreds and hundredsof series about alien abduction romances. Um,
sweetie, I know, I know, I was, I was going
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low, you know. I mean, I've got how many do I have
behind me? Like all of theseare aliens? I mean we're talking about
thousands of series. Yeah, sooh, actually this entire shelf is aliens.
So so but this these are nothuman, their fae, so not
aliens. Yes, an entire shelfof non human humans. Yes, yeah,
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the shelf above it is also nothuman. Um. The only humans
I have on this shelf are HarryPotter, but those are witches and wizards.
Yeah, so completely human. Butsome of the tropes that I really
like is not just like primal andchasing and nodding and um. Sized difference,
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size difference. I was a sixfoot tall babyw Yeah the size different.
Yes. I got ruins twice inmy life for size. Once was
when I got I fell in amosh pit fans warped tours crossward heights and
I got picked up from under thearmpits, completely off the ground. A
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second was when a Maldrey man camein to the place I worked, and
he was well over seven feet tall, and I was just like craning my
neck, going, your ink isbeautiful, and he walked out like all
the jaunty like she like my tattoo. Since you all don't see a standing
up, I am the smallest ofus in clocking in at five to seven,
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and so I'm still taller than youraverage women. So the fact that
we all enjoy a solid size differenceis not a surprise. Since a Jersey
and Curlatter are both the six footsix foot one. Yeah, yeah,
I can't count on one hand.I believe the number of people that I
have met that are taller than methat are not related to me. One
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of them was Shack. I mean, if you're gonna mess man, yeah,
would you? Yeah? What isit? Shameless? L would you
do it? Would you do it? A few moments later? Yeah,
yeah, the door. He's adorableand yeah I appreciate him, Yes,
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absolutely, I think he would makesure you're ready for that. Um.
One of the other troops that Ireally love about monster romances, it's that
it's the complete teddy Bear package,because it's like super cinnamon rolling mate and
their their bibbys if they have them, and then like I will rip your
face off if you touch her onehair on her head. I appreciate that,
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all that so much. That andI'll don't get that in human men
a lot. Yeah, like theMafia wants too. Yeah. Well,
but and honestly, I feel likeit doesn't translate to real life as well,
because like if like if I gotinto like a fight with somebody,
Rob would not like come to defendmy honor because he knows I would fuck
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them up myself, so like,well, it's the faith in you to
be the badass bitch that you are, I know, so I want him
to but also I want him toknow that I can handle my shit.
So it's like it doesn't exactly translateeven if it is something that we're interested
in being able to be, likea shield maiden. Well you have your
your Viking warrior so together, soyou're like there just in case. Yes,
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But at the same time he's gonnasit there like this with a shitty
ingrid like get him baby. Yeah. Yeah. So one day, one
day I also enjoyed that with themonsters that enemies to lovers were they both
honestly can't stand each other first,but then they kind of so ill to
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win each other over. Yeah,unintentionally, it's I find that was horrible.
This is so weird. You areso what you're not not what my
speeches was meant to beg It's likeand then and in their heads like no,
no, I can't, no,God, why yeah I don't.
Is this a why decision? No? But this sounds like a fun time
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like Queer Cat is ting of Leland. Yeah, yeah, Like you're like,
um, what's Okay, I thoughthe was scary looking. Things wrong
with you? Why do I wantto do those things which you Oh my
god, it's like all those hornswould be really fun to use a handlebars.
If you're looking for books where youuse horns as handlebars, I have
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several recommendations just in case you werewondering. Um, being a woman that
is instant into monster fucking, youdo attract weird ben because they see you
as being down to fuck anything.Yeah, it'll happen. If you're new
to this world, you're gonna attractsome creepy women. There will be men
in your DMS being like, hey, block, don't waste your mental idea.
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Yeah, because they see it asyou're down to fuck anything, and
you see it as No, Ihave much higher standards than you. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, this this orcis is actually exceeding any standards.
Yeah, he's exceeding all of thestandards that I once held four human men,
yead standards bar that we talk aboutthat is basically buried. Yeah,
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it's in hell that the demons areusing Limbo wonder the tartars that you know
Chronos is having a good time withum. Would it sounds like he was
up as. I don't know.I'm sorry, I don't even know what
those words that just came out ofher mouth. Men Chronos. Chronos is
basically like a primordial god in Greekokay, mythology and okay. He he's
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the father to douce, Hades andPoseidon, who swallowed them. Its like
a dick move. It was soshowing a limbo bar up his book.
Okay, unintentional verbiage. I'm sorry, are you sure it was unintended?
We don't want some happy accident,well happy accident, happy accident, happy
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little accidents. I have Bob rosscard somewhere. I miss him. An
anticipation of um orcs the next month. Can I show you the preliminary cover
of my Orc book? Carltta looksso confused. I'm so excited. Wait
this is the cover you want meto draw for you? Right? Um?
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Yeah, this is the preliminary cover. Um. So my daughters are
eight and they know that I writeOrc books. Um, they know they
somehow know that they're like Orcs thatsomeone might want to hang out with.
I'm not sure how, but sothis is um, this is this is
my Orc cover. Um, itsays orc Um, it's spelled O r
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k E. And then it saysEvelyn tried, this is going to go
somewhere in my book, Um,like maybe far. Yeah, you need
to put it in like the aboutthe author or in the front somewhere and
then frame it next to a pictureof your actual like book cover. Yeah,
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yeah, me like really cool eyedesigns because she knows they're hot orcs.
Um, she doesn't really know whathot means, but she knows they're
not scary orcs. So um,hiding my book habit from my children is
getting harder and harder as they getolder, Like they're like they're precious.
Yeah, we would love to hearfrom you all if you have specific reasons
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that you like monsters or aliens iswe'd love to know more and we can
continue having this conversation. It's afun conversation to have because in the book
community there are so many of usthat enjoy monsters and aliens and understanding the
rationale and kind of what makes usferal for monsters, I think is a
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fun conversation to continue. M thanksfor joining us on our first minisode.
I like that. We will wewith Sis teeny tiny minisode. We will
continue to put out more minisodes asour executive producer directuests all Right Trusts out