The Harlem Hellfighters

The 369th Infantry regiment better known as the Harlem Hellfighters were a renowned all-black World War I unit who spent 191 days in action. They were loaned to the French forces and became the Germans worst nightmare on the front lines.

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He does look like his ego is dead. Looks like
he's say, looks like a lot of things breathing. But
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We had to wait for the sun to go down
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It's more just that your window faces directly west.

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It's a French door.

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To what to nothing?

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I know. That was kind of the only drawback of
this place. I like it a lot, but there's no deck.
You just open the French door. You overlook the.

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Pool like you're the very end of your room is
the deck essentially, even indoor deck.

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open space. There's really a glorified studio apartment.

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An open concept floor plan. No, give me rooms. Give
me a house built one hundred and thirty years ago.
Room room, room, room, room, room. Nothing is open. You
can get lost in it. It's amaze. No one can
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up in. Room room, room, room, room, room. I hate
this open concept shit because here's the thing. The space

(04:19):
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Let's go on.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
October fifth, nineteen seventeen, m it J. Scott, a longtime
secretary to Booker T. Washington, was appointed a special assistant
to the Secretary of War Newton D. Baker.

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Okay, it's an important job at the time, considering we
are when in.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Nineteen seventeen October.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
So were we in?

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Are we in?

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At that point?

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Yeah? Okay, we're talking about a specific group of men.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw the title. Because you have
to use my laptop.

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Please subscribe to The Patriot. I have a desktop, so
I'll be able to edit pretty you know, unfazed. But
now I get to use Rob's little lambie.

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Dan has to masturbate in his window.

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Yeah? I know.

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I was because I was gonna be like, dude, maybe
I'll come over here and watch some college football with you.
But that's off the table. Now I'll be coming to
your house.

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Yeah. Yeah, clearly you're moving. You gonna be my neighbors soon.

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Yeah, you can just scoot on over come watch the game.
You and Rory will watch the games.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Father, Cuck, you.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Spend valuable time with. Please do please try raise them? Right,
please try? You think it's you think it's easy.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know, they say the problem with a lot of
society today is families without fathers. Yeah, but what about
families with two fathers.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's a solution is more dads.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
But is it kind of like if you have two quarterbacks,
you have none, if you have two dads, you have none.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
No, I don't. I don't know. I think the doubling works.
I think it's irresponsible for any any married man too.
I guess basically not have a bowl who helps raise
the children along with uh split their wife. Hm, you're
just not a selfless lover. You're not an American, not
a good American because you're not raising a family right. Uh.
Probably not a good Christian either for that matter. Yeah,

(08:57):
you just it needs to be a two man household.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Scott was the serve as an advisor for any situations
that involved Black Americans and the role they would play in.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
War, which is which is fuck you.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, much of Black America at that time we're eager
to serve their country, but often turned away from military service.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, black dudes from this, I can only speak in
the Civil War on, probably were like this beforehand as well,
but from the Civil War on in particular, they were like,
we want some, yea, we would like some just to
kind of prove themselves. Yes, give us many of some.
And they were distinguished in all three of the major

(09:40):
wars we fought from the Civil War on, as well
as in the Indian Wars. The Buffalo soldiers, I don't
I'm sure they were great. In the Spanish American War,
I don't know if the three.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Months did the Spanish aca? How good could you be?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
In the Spanish Everyone was a cup of coffee in
the Spanish American War.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
This was until HUGHS. Johnson wrote up the Selective Service
Act of nineteen seventeen, which required all men from the
ages of twenty one to thirty to register for the draft,
including black men. They would join the fifteenth Infantry of
the New York National Guard, which ironically helped suppress the
eighteen sixty three draft riots. You'll remember those when the

(10:16):
Irish just started burning down a black town. Yeah, although
I don't or a black part of town.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I don't think that's ironic though, because those guys killed
the Irish who were killing black people.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
It's fitting.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, yeah, yes it is.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
With about two thousand black and Puerto Rican troops enlisted
and another two thousand drafted, there wasn't a ton of
space in New York for them, so they were shipped
down south to Spartanburg, South Carolina, to Camp Wadsworth. Oh no,
in October of nineteen seventeen.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Oh no, Jim Crow is so bad that it's not
that they don't get served at restaurants, they just don't
get served food. Like sorry, boys, even the army. Yeah black, don't.
I mean, dude, there were dickheads.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
To the They definitely were to heads soon.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, it didn't matter if you were in a uniform
or not. I mean maybe the uniform helped like a smidge,
but yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
There were NonStop incidents where local Spartanburg businesses refused to
sell goods. Black soldiers and members of the white twenty
seventh Division often came to their defense and boycotted the
shop owners and solidarity.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Good for them with it was the twenty seventh. Also
from the North.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
They're all they're all kind of shipped up from New York,
all New Yorkers. Yeah, fair enough. I imagine this is kind
of the plot of Remember the Titans when they all
go to summer camp and they all come together and
Kumbaya start singing together, and then they come back to town.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, because I think in the in the movie they
go to Pennsylvania, right, because they go to Gettysburg.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, they well they jogged Gettysburg.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah. I don't think they're running like across state line.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
See, so I was confused about that when I first
saw the movie. I was like, what do you mean
they jogged a Gettysburg.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I imagine the camp was in nearby.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I was like, that's odd.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Otherwise, Coach Boone is a menace.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Of absolutely Yeah, well, I mean other coaches do that.
I think in Miracle he made them do enough suicides
that they could have skated to Gettysburg from wherever they
were again, yeah, but it's just one straight line instead
of back and forth.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
What's better. Remember the Titans are miracle. If you had
to pick.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
One, oh more height, probably remember the Titans.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Remember the Titans simply off the soundtrack the soundtrack.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
But also, honestly, even though Denzel's like the main dude
in it, it's the defensive coordinators. I don't want them
to gain another yard? Yeah like that?

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Not another yard? That's quite the ask. Yeah, are we
count negative plays?

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Like? Yeah, coach, is it a cumulative or what?

Speaker 1 (12:47):
As long as it's total, that's fine. I get some sacks,
I get some tackles for losses. But another yard that's
I don't know if that's realistic.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Your coach, that's a lot. It would help if you
ran the ball on offense board.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, let's kill some clock, guys.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah you really, I'd beat if you're gonna throw on
first and second out. I just don't know how this
is feasible.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
The Josh Hipel offense three and out offense was on
the field for thirteen seconds.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Like, oh my god, the defense is just like puking
in the second quarter. Guy sucks.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
It was just a beating getting out of the US altogether.
When they shipped over to Europe, the Fifteenth faced several
setbacks just getting out to open water, with three separate
incidents that included a mechanical breakdown, an onboard fire, and
a collision with other boats during a snowstorm.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Good Lord out of South Carolina, they could leave like
Charleston Harbor.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Now they went back up and moved. Oh, they went
to New York.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Way back up, Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
The damage was done to parts of the ship above water,
so the fifteenth patched it up themselves and finally set sail.
They arrived in France in December of nineteen seventeen, where
they were immediately ordered to do all the grunt work,
back breaking labor. Unsurprisingly.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's that's literally like half
of Glory. Like once they get deployed, they're just like,
all right, boy, it's glad you troops are here.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Seen Glory since like high school, I need to go
back another Denzel class.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
That's a it's a great movie. Cut down trees. It's
actually like, it's really fucked to me that Glory is
probably the best Civil War movie you ever made. And
it came out almost forty years ago. Like no one,
I mean, one of the other contenders. It's really like,
off the top of my head, it's pretty bleak. It's
that in Gettysburg, which, yeah, it's fine, it's fine, But

(14:34):
the fighting in Gettysburg is really mid Yeah, Like it's
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Like like when so we get shot, corny as hell.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Yeah, but the acting is impeccable. Like if you took
Gettysburg and like cut out most of the battle scenes,
it's a brilliant movie. But then a lot of times
they get in the battle and it's.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Just like mah, yeah, we need to get on. Somebody
make it a just world class civil war movie.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
I think Antietam is the perfect setting, and I think
someone needs to do that, goddamn it. Or Shiloh. Shiloh
would be the other one. Those two battles, I think
are two like perfect, perfect civil war films.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
We keep throwing out the term civil war civil wards
coming is coming. It already happened, and it's great content.
So how have we not incredible? How have we not
turned that into the best.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Civil war battle scene I've ever seen from that award
winning film. Yeah, just make a goddamn civil war saving
private ride. It's not Hard or a civil war band
of brothers. It's not goddamn Hard.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, we're still gonna make our movie about Madame LaForce.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
We will. Yeah, we do need to do that.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Just going full drag.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, just blowing a thousand dudes on a boat for
no reason.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
They were assigned to the US Army's Services of supply
unloading ships, including outhouses. Shouts of the other dogs out
there just losing their fucking minds.

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To high schoolers.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
I gotta make a living somehow. Cost of living is
gone this economy. Yeah. General John Jay Persian was an
advocate for black soldiers, but with many of his superior
saying it would be bad for his career if he
tried to mix his troops together. Persian kept everything segregated
and eventually loan the fifteenth to the French Armed Forces

(17:17):
in April nineteen eighteen.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, we basically jumped. So when we got to World
War One, Pershing's one of the most underrated people in
American history. Should probably do an episode on him, and
I think actually he was with Teddy Roosevelt in the
Spanish American War, served like adjacent to him or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
He definitely does not get enough.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Love Blackjack Pershing.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's as we talk about Pat and of
course obviously Grant. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
So Pershing was the main the commanding general of World
War One.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think everyone knows that, but we just kind of
like glance over it.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Oh yeah, no, he is. He's a really interesting, dude.
And when we got to Europe, essentially the British and
French were like, oh, good American troops here, here, We're gonna
plug you in where we need you, and Plushing was like,
fucking suck my dick, dude, there, these are American troops.

(18:11):
They will serve with each other. And then unless you're black, yeah,
and then like enough racists were in the army, and
Persia really wasn't.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
He wasn't. He seemed to be, you know, for his
time of progressive.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he did, I guess, cave to
the segregation and was like, honestly to probably give the
black troops some dignity, where like, you'll serve with the French,
they'll be way less dickheads to you. And they were.
The French held these guys, a lot of them in
quite high esteem.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
The fifteenth were all issued French weapons helmets, belts, and pouches,
but remained in the American uniform.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
I think that's fine. I guess I don't know that
French weapons were bad in World War One. Really.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, we used French planes.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
We didn't have combat planes, we weren't actively in aerial
combat at all. Up to that point it was invented.
Aerial combat was invented by the Europeans, like literally, like
full stop. So yeah, that surprised me that we just
grab some French plants the way today half a NATO
uses F twenty two's like a dumb down version of

(19:22):
the F twenty two or something like that.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Then we sell a bunch of F sixteens.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, NATO. Every NATO country has like
F Actually, I think Ukraine even has like F sixteens
and shit like that. Yeah, so that's the same, it's
the same situation. We didn't have the shit, so we
just used the French as shit.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
The French army had many colonial units with non white
personnel from Senegal and Morocco, and with the manpower shortage,
they were happy with any warm body they could get
to throw at the Germans. Oh yeah, they're fucking.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Please, God give me something. It is funny too that
the British and French just like strip mind to their
colonies for soldiers.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, they're like, come on, you co, you're covered. The
French Army assigned the regiment to Outpost twenty on the
edge of the Oregon Forest in the Champagne region of France.
Argonne the argonne, How did I pronounce it?

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Orgon?

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I said, argon, I didn't say it. Oregon certainly didn't
say Oregon pooled the tape. On the night of May fourteenth,
my birthday, nineteen eighteen, they came under attacked by a
German raiding party of a few dozen. Private Henry Johnson,
a former rail station porter from Albany, New York, and

(20:38):
Private Neden Roberts heard the snip of barbed wire being cut.
Johnson fired an illumination rocket into the sky, then ducked
as German grenades flew toward him. The grenades exploded behind
him and shrapnel hit his left leg. Roberts got hit
in the head and the two started throwing grenades back.

(21:00):
The German forces rushed into the Americans dugout. Johnson shot
one German in the chest point blank, then swung his
rifle to club another with depleted ammunition. Johnson accidentally jammed
his French gun, putting in an American magazine and had
to engage the enemy using grenades, the butt of his rifle,

(21:21):
and eventually a bolo knife. Hell Yeah. Two enemy soldiers
tried to haul Roberts away after he was knocked unconscious,
and Johnson drove his nine inch knife into one of their.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Skulls through the helmet. I guess either way where he
knocked it off, and yeah, just not easy. A pop
and stab is still is incredibly impressive. I liked it.
It was like a snowball fight with grenades too.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Another German shot Johnson in the shoulder and thigh. Johnson
then went full perserker mode and lunched with his knife
and slashed that man down as well. The rest of
the German soldiers just up and left and ran for
the hills.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
They're like, yeah, fuck this.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Like this, dude, I'm not fucking with him. He might
be invincible. Yeah, I've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
He's doing work with a knife that I cannot fathom.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Honestly, it must have been how white athletes felt when
they saw the black men finally compete in sports, like.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh my god, Like wait a minute, meanwhile, stronger, faster,
while Sergeant York's running like a fucking six two forty
at a machine gun, nest just start clocking them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Reviewing the carnage the next day, a US Army captain
estimated that Johnson had killed four of the attack in
twenty four German soldiers. He's just like.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
He's just standing there, like puking in between counting. He's like,
oh fuck, none of them are connected to each other.
Just count the arms and legs and we're gonna we're
gonna split.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
The diff American accounts of their heroics reached home within days.
The New York World's lead headline on May twentieth, nineteen
eighteen was two New York Negroes foil German assault.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Two homegrown boys, black boys, but boys. Nonetheless.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
The New York Sun headline the next day was Persian
Priz's Brave Negroes.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Look negro is he used to just be a normal
word for black guy.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
It used to be a baseball league.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Also that, Yeah, I always wonder I want to just
be in like the group, a group of like the
most aggressively progressive people and be like, oh yeah, I
went to the Negro League Baseball Museum and it was
it was wonderful and just you know, like the type
of people who don't even know what sports are. Yeah,
so they're just likeugh, like just watch them.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
There's that crowd that is like sneakerheads really into just
underground hip hop and they have to like prove themselves
as white men. Yeah, just like how in the know
they are on black culture. That's horrible.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's terrible, sounds exhausting. Just exist, for the love of God.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's just la yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Ugh.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Any production in Los Angeles, especially on the internet.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
I'd be like, what are you into? Like, I don't know, man,
we're in New York too.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
If you work for like it's all the white people
that work for Complex.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Or oh yeah, I'm sure that's an insufferable group of people.
You just like walk in with like new sneak Like, yeah,
any sneakerhead, I'm like, if that's what you're into, that's fine.
But it's like cars where I'm just like, yeah, I
don't talk to me about it. I don't know, and
I don't even care. I have a thing that moves.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I feel like every white dude at The Ringer is
sort of like that.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Oh man, yeah, I still read The Ringer because there's
only five things on the Internet to read, but it
does that vibe the way they talk about the NBA,
and it's all just like the geekiest white dudes who
are like, you don't know Ball, if you think I'm
just it takes a lot to not smash my laptop
reading a Ringer NBA article.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
And with each passing day that I can't lift and
I start to develop man tits, I feel like that
might be my future. Unfortunately, I need to fix my shoulders.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
What you squeaking, you don't know? Ball into a podcast.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Mike, My voice will get higher and higher as my
testosterone lowers.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
You have to get on tee.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'll get surgery, probably in like Panama or something. Yeah,
some stems. It's a vacation. You're right, you have a blast.
These stories made Johnson and Roberts two of the best
known American soldiers in World War One. Johnson was nicknamed
Black Death, which that goes yeah, that goes hard.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
That's that is. I don't even though this person was
probably fake, it's very like the Ghost of Kiev.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
He's not fake. Ghost isn't no Johnson. Johnson's a real dude.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I know John's saying the Ghost of Kiev is yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
But Black Death is not your comparing it to a
fictional character.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
But I'm saying the names go hard. I guess Ghost
of Kiev Ghost.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
It just kind of seems like you're trying to tarnish
this man's remation's propaganda.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I've ever heard my life Ghost of Kiev. Yeah, I
know this guy's real.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
This guy's real, because the White press is not going
to like hype up a black soldier undeservingly certainly not there.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
At no point have I debated that this man existed
or not. I know he exists. He's in my own
doc you actually you cucked me on this. He was
in my own dock of like, oh people, le should
maybe do something about you beat me too. It took
you took it.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
If you wanted to do it, you would have done it.
I agree.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
If you created Facebook, you would have created it. Also,
the three hundred and sixty ninth, which is what they
get converted to in the French Armed Forces, the fifteenth
does uh? They start to pick up a bit of
a reputation.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Is this the Harlem hell Fighters.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
They were called the Black Rattlers okay first, okay, okay, okay,
as a nod to the Rattlesnake insignia. The French referred
to them as the Bronze Men, based off appearance and
the Germans, of course, spoke of them as hell Fighters.
There you go, and that, of course is what's stuck.
These men would become known forever as the Harlem hell Fighters.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Let's fucking go. Wait what was it's actually? Are there
are there rattlesnakes anywhere near New York?

Speaker 1 (27:18):
I think it's just like a uh, don't tread on
the snake.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Type of Okay, Okay, that makes more sense. Yeah, because
that is like an odd It's on their flag, you
know what I mean. It's like, yeah, we're the It's
like your unit from Vermont with a cactus on your Yeah.
Why what does this have to do with you at all?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
At the front on July fifteenth, the hell Fighters withstood
heavy bombardment as Germans launched the second Battle of the
marn It's final offensive of the war. The health Fighters
took part in the French counter attack, losing fourteen members
of the regiment, with fifty one more sustaining injury. As
part of the Meuse Argonne offensive, in which more than

(27:58):
a million American and French troops attacked the German lines,
the Harlem hell Fighters suffered some of the worst casualties
by an American regiment in the war.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Well, yolo giveth and yolo take it away, you know
what I mean, Like when you go hard into something. Also,
it's just like I actually do wonder because they're still
under French command.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
Right, mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, Well the French lost a lot of people in
World War One doing some stupid shit.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna plame this on the front.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
It feels like the French did not help them out tactically,
like they can roll. They fucking they'll fuck anybody up.
But at the end of the day, if you put
them in a bad situation, no matter how how hard
they fight, they're gonna take a lot of bullets. If
you're just like yeah, charge.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
One hundred and forty four killed, almost one thousand wounded.
They also helped capture the town of Sachal.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Who knows who cares.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Under white officer George S. Rob but at a costly
eight hundred one then dead or just casually dead. Geez.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I mean, dude, World War One doesn't get enough. Honestly,
I feel like the reason a huge reason more people
died in World War Two were like non combat related things.
I would actually love to run the numbers on, like
just pure combat deaths in World War One vers World
War Two, because I bet it's pretty comparable if I like,

(29:24):
if I had to guess, but like you know, there's
no major bombing campaigns in World War One. There's way
less like famine and starvation.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And like every death in World War One though, was
just you're in the wrong spot the wrong time for artillery.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, yeah, I assume artillery did the heavy lifting on bodies,
although dude, like like there's just so many stories of
I mean machine guns just like melting and like just
getting too hot because they're just lighting people up. So
I mean every machine gun does that. You gotta fucking
like on like MG forty two, you gotta change up barrels.

(30:00):
Think you can change up barrels on sixties. But a
gun person can tell me that. Anyway, though, the amount
of dudes who just got it because they were like,
I don't know what to do. Let's just charge I gut,
let's we got to run out of them. There's no
one knows we can fucking do.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
George S. Roberts received the Medal of Honor for his
actions that the white commander.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah yeah, yeah, all these guys still had white commanders.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
He also took over because one of their commanders died.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Okay, so with he and nice Get stepped up.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
He seemed fine. Okay. Though the Black troops never received
American medals, the French were more than happy to pick
up the slack.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Oh yeah, the French gave him a million.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Awards participation trophies.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I feel like a participation. I feel like you should
probably in fact, you do literally get like small medals
for literally participating in war, like both my grandfathers had
for the theaters they were in.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, it's like being a boy scout.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, it's a year they had like my help old
lady cross the street get that badge? Yeah, and I
think like Jack, for example, would you participate in the
Pinewood Derby.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
You get a badge?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Do you just for being there?

Speaker 1 (31:10):
I think just for being there?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
That's stupid.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I really don't want to do boy Scouts with my kids.
I really don't want to. I don't want to go
camping ever again in my life for.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
The rest of your life. You've just crossed out the outdoors. Yeah, fully,
no no camping. What if your kids like to fish
or hunt? Where are they getting that from?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Not me? Are't you not me? Why do you think
we're moving back to the city. I got to kill
that baby in the cradle, all right. I don't want
them walking around in our neighborhood seeing kids on dirt
bikes and kids with fishing poles, and be like, I
want to do that.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
No, you got to turn them into future Ringer employees.
Yeah you don't know, Ball squeaky voice, yeah, balding at
like age twenty five.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
There's a type of men I want to raise. It's
easy here, it'd.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Be a good fit for them, But I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
I don't steal black language. Say it as whitely as
possible about what for in all intentsive purposes of black sport.
Be like, oh cool, look at me.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
That's pretty susmam. I know I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah, you don't know Ball.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
I'm a hooper.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah these are. Yeah, they're real hoopers. They got ups
like you wouldn't bully a fucking.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Just just talk about yourself, man.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Uh just say we're just say normal words, you piece
of shit. Anyone who does that. I just it's an
immediate like god, damn it, fuck you. If I had
anything else to read.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
There's nothing out there, there's nothing to read except on
our Patreon.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Picture's gonna be dropping a lot of written content, old
written content or not that we're not working that hard.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
But uh, I mean there's plenty of blogs you read already.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, it's probably around fifty or something.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
We're gonna have a little damn rob archive.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, but those those blogs are evergreen because it's about history.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
One hundred and seventy one black men receive the French
quadi gar for their actions at the set Child.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know what that means. Can you translate quade gar
a cross of war?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, or the it might mean war cross, might translate
more warross dope though, Yeah that's cool, but like literally
it's cross of war. I don't know if it would
the translation will be war cross.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
But yeah, Jesus should have been crucified on a war cross?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
What was Jesus the quada? I don't know what criminal
means in French?

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now back to the episode. The hell Fighter spent one
hundred and ninety one days in combat, more than any
other US regiment. They also had a unit band that
would play for the wounded and civilian audiences under James

(35:42):
Reese Europe during their downtime to boost morale with it Blues,
allegedly introducing jazz music to the French and British.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
Oh I gon say, it couldn't just be some John Phillips,
who's a bullshit. They had, They had a little spirit,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
On February You're seventeenth, nineteen nineteen, a massive crowd filled
Fifth Avenue for a victory parade honoring the Hell Fighters.
The band kicked off the procession with a French Martian
song and these soldiers marched in a French formation. Wow, dude,
going against your own country, okay in New York.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Why dude, just because they like barely give you any
rights and made you serve in another army, You're gonna
just like, so be a dick like.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
That, you had to like represent another nation.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's pretty fucking shitty, and just go just do another
ringer callback that fucking hell Fighter's band laid down sick beats,
laid down the sickest beats. It went hard.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
It's funny to see you try to like use young
lingo because you don't even know it. I don't know it,
which is good, and I don't want to even trying
to make fun of it. You can't because you are
just so out of the loop. You're a wash dad.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
As it should be, As it fucking should be. You
can't put those words in your mouth at a certain point,
you know what I mean? Like, no one finds that attractive. No,
not even the youngs. The youngs find it least attractive
of all.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
The youngs find it repulsive. Johnson wrote in a convertible,
holding a bouquet of red and white lilies and bound
to the crowds Europe. Launched his Health Fighter Band on
tour of the Northeast and Midwest, but two months in,
after a concert in Boston, he was stabbed to death
by the band's deranged drummer. What yeah, poor guy survise

(37:35):
you know, the absolute hell on earth that is World
War One serves you know, the most days in combat
with a unit more than any other regiment in the US.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
One hundred and ninety one days straight in.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Combat and they were there late.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Has got to be pushing a record, right, Obviously, you're
almost anyone for some period of times been deployed for
more than one hundred and like one hundred and ninety
one days or what you know, like a year deployment
or whatever, but like in combat successively every so basically
just in a trench every day, taking shells every day. Right,

(38:16):
They're not necessarily in a gunfight every day, but like
you are on the front lines, a fucking German shell
might rip you in half at any moment and is
probably trying to every day.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Then you're also playing music for everybody in eure Up.
You're having a good time. You get celebrated when you
get back home as a black man. You go on tour,
they're like, let the the health fighter band out and
about show these Americans what we're all about. And then
the drummer probably just like breaks one of his drumsticks

(38:49):
and stabs the man to death.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Well, maybe the drummer. He was also deployed overseas.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Correct. Yeah, so he had some ptsdas he might.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Mentally not be great. Not everyone handled it.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Well, No, probably heard some things, maybe snapped.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
I just like every day you're getting shelled. I feel
like I'd be pretty good at disassociating eventually and just
be like, I don't.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Know, it's fucking pretty soon after shell it again.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
No, I mean like during if you're just in the trench.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Every day, get numbed to it.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Maybe, yeah, you would think, but a lot of you saw.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
All your friends just get crushed and die.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Well, here we go again.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Johnson himself became a champion for his fellow troops, testifying
before the New York Legislator in early nineteen nineteen in
support of a bill to give veterans a preference in
government hiring. After a fiery speech in Saint Louis, there
you go in March of nineteen nineteen You're a major city,
in which he accused white soldiers of racism and cowardice,

(39:48):
Johnson eventually disappeared from the public sphere altogether. That does
not probably the best move, because they were kind of
propping them up to be the like token black man,
right right, right, that, well, look how progressive we are.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, well look we found some good ones.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah he was the good one. Yeah. Yeah. They kind
of pimped up, and he's like, well, actually I was
kind of treated like shit.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I I don't know what he's accusing them of. Cowardice wise,
like cowardice in terms of not speaking up for them.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Okay, sure maybe or maybe just not sermons. Many days
they did.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
But yeah, I don't know. If they were on the
front lines of the trenches also getting shelled and shot
at seems like not the best move to call them pussies.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
He spent part of nineteen twenty in the Army's Walter
Reid Hospital and later grew sick from tuberculosis. He died
nine years later, at age thirty nine, of an enlarged heart.
He actually received the Medal of Honor in twenty fifteen,
when Obama finally gave it to him.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
There's a lot of black in particular posthumous Medal of Honor. Yeah,
it seems to be a for for a lot of
them to get it. A lot more possumous or a
lot more Also, way after the fact, I feel like
there are a lot of black dudes from the Civil
War who got the Congressional Medal of Honor.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
When did we start actually like just thinking, oh, yeah,
like they're dope ass soldiers Vietnam.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Harry Truman integrated the army Korea. Yeah, that's when the
army was integrated. They were not obviously integrated in World
War Two. Hence like the Tuskegee Airmen, and there were
some distinguished like infantry units and stuff as well. I
don't I don't know that we even allowed them to
drive tanks. But yeah, yeah, a lot of the black

(41:44):
soldiers were doing logistical stuff in World War Two because
they were like nah, I can't remember if the top
of my head. I mean, there's a movie about one,
sort of. It doesn't really talk about it, like it
The Miracle at Saint Anna. Yeah, with a Spike Lee movie.
It's a pretty good movie. Actually, it's not like a

(42:05):
great like war movie, but it's a good like movie movie.
That one was really good. But yeah, the Tuskegee Airman
kind of get all the press and rightfully so they
were goddamn elite. Uh. I can't remember the infantry units
off the top of my head, But yeah, Harry Truman
integrated the.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I feel like they also get kind of run because
of the Tuskegee experiments.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
You know, it's not great seo. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I feel like a lot of people probably combined the two. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah, in a way. It was an experiment. You're telling me,
they fly, and unfortunately both of the experiments worked. Yeah,
I mean not unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Last half full honestly. Yeah, it's all about perspective.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Yeah, they were just trying anything with black Eyes and Tuskegee. Yeah,
some of them good, most of them bad.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
But let's focus on the positive here.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah yeah, yeah, come on, who are you such a
It's just a pessimist, you know, Okay, yeah, we get
was syphilist or something. I don't remember what it was.
It was something fucked up like that though.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
That's the quick softcore history edition on the Harlem hell Fighters.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I mean they were badass motherfires. They Yeah, the French
adored them. The French gave them a million medals. They
were They are still heroes in France to this day.
The French actually do a good job of gassing up
American troops. Obviously, they still take care of all the
Norman dy cemeteries and stuff.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Like that.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
But man, oh they well, let's put it this way,
we repaid those revolutionary war.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Debts tenfold quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah, we we did more than enough.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
I mean we talked about the Dreyfuss situation.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Yeah, you're kind of a Francophile, the.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Dreyfus case in the Patreon this week, which were in
a bad way when it came.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
To war, lost a lot of wars from eighteen seventy
to nineteen fifty. It was real grim and even though
they won World War One, it just seemed like they
did a bad job.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's like they were incredibly petty too. That's why they
put all those sanctions on Germany after the like we need.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
To fuck them, which came back pretty bad. And I
think a lot of them, honestly, a lot of the French,
as far as the Germans go, were pretty A lot
of the people in charge were still but heard about
the Franco Prussian War and wanted to just fuck Germany.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
I mean, Dreyfus served in World War One after everything
that happened on them.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, we know the French for World War One.
The French won, but it was an ugly win, you
know what I mean. You don't cover the spread, you know,
you look like garbage the whole time.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I will say though, a lot of people kind of
pulled whether or not they covered the drive situation in
their school history books. Yeah, a lot of people in
my corner never never covered it.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I had one one other guy say we covered it
in European history in high school. So, but I also
don't trust anyone just saying no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
They didn't teach us that. It's like were you paying attention?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Right? And also like how would you remember most of it?

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Still?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Trapped in history? History class is such a like for
most people. I think history classes on the level of
math class where they're just like, uh, get me the
fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You think, so, maybe that's that's not a great business
to get into. Then what us?

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Yeah, we're we're film class. Now we're gonna have a
film I don't even know. Okay, we'll have to read
what's your favorite what was your What was history your
favorite class?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
And it was yeah. I mean I had obviously some
electives where I get to mess with cameras.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Right right right, But in terms of like core.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
Core class, history is one. Yeah, yeah, by far, I've
always landed into it.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
History.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
The only thing I my only complains about history classes
would be like in college, where it was just like
so much writing, so much god damn writing, and not
fun writing where you can just make everything up. Yeah,
like writing where you had to be on it and
cite fucking sources. I do in high school too, to
be honest, and that was that was where history started

(46:34):
to be less fun. I mostly like to just be
in class and like no stuff and be like yeah
I know that, Yeah I know that, and they're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
You know trivia whiz. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Basically then they're like, oh, you know so much to
write this paper where you have to meticulously cite everything.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
That's what we do the show we do. Yeah, we
want to be pretty loose with everything.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Fast and loose on soft core history. I don't know
if any think he said it was true today except
except the party.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, apparently you don't think this guy's real.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
No, I think he's real.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
I think Johnson's goes to Kiev.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
He goes to Kiev type of guy, Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
Or Kiev what. I don't even know how to pronounce
that at this point.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Kiv is the Ukrainian pronunciation, but I just don't care.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Our friend Ryan's in Ukraine right now.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Again, is he want more cancer?

Speaker 1 (47:20):
He went back, Well, he said he's gonna skipture Noble.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Probably for the best.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
But he is in Kiev. We're doing what clubbing, hanging out,
just seeing what it's about. He might join the revolution,
who knows. Honestly, he's got to get drafted.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Ukrainian women very attractive and if everyone's partying like they're
gonna die, seems.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Like a good time, especially a man that for a
long time thought he's gonna die.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
What if you were just like a tourist who went
to like countries that had clubs to club But we're
also like at war where people just had this sort
of like Tomorrow's not coming mentality.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
It's just like an adrenaline junk. Yeah, you just tell
you're chasing the apocalypse.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Once you go clubbing in Kiev. Doesn't know how No,
it doesn't matter how much money you spend in Vegas, Dude,
it's not the same.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Dude, wait till you go to Damascus.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I've told you the way. But he did fuck you in.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Ryan might just be the guy that you're talking about.
He actually just was in Damascus. Now he's in Kiev.
He's just chasing I think he wants to die.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
He's chasing war pussy. Probably he's chasing war bitches.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
If he comes back, we should gt him on the show,
just to explain all of his action.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
He's like, dude, you have no idea how horny a
war widow is. They just don't care about nothing. They're drunk.
They're just having a good time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
He kept posting stories like I'm in the bunker again
in Damascus, knowing Keev.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Oh yeah, party keeps going though.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Spin classes got to keep on rolling.

Speaker 2 (48:53):
It's an underground rave in a drone proof bunker. He's like,
still got the glow sticks.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
It's the whole Daniel Tosh bit where it's like you
get the soldiers get to drive to war every day
from their homes.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Sounds horrible, but he's just there to clean up.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Yeah, well everyone else is away.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Getting getting drone to death, having a little drone drop
a grenade.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
Our buddy will play with our wives.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, he's a what is it a Jody.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
I suppose, Yeah, Jody's the one that steals your girl.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, he's jodying Ukrainian soul.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Internationally. He's a Globe trott He's.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
An international Jody. It's good, good work if you can
get it, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
A Joe Trotter. What did he learn today?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
If anything, I didn't know like this, But I mean
I knew about the Harble Hell fighters and how the
French were much cooler to them than the Americans. I
didn't know the specifics of these guys though, especially U
his elite knife play at some point. Again, it's like
what we joked about with the fucking dude who is

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like rocking a sword in battle. Yeah, it's funny from
one hundred feet away a bow and arrow. Yeah, it's
funny from one hundred feet away to see a guy
with a sword running at you. It's it is the
like one eighty of how funny it is when he's
ten feet away from you. Yeah, And that's what you
feel like with a guy with a knife, Like he's

(50:28):
one hundred feet away, Like he only has a knife.
This shouldn't be a problem. Someone will get him all
of a sudden he's in your trench and it becomes
literally the biggest problem in your entire life.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, it's that hypothetical where the snail is always chasing
you the rest of your life, and all of a
sudden the snails right next to you in bed.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
Like, ah fuck, it's over, it's over.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Who's today's hitler?

Speaker 2 (50:52):
I don't know, Segregation, I guess the drummer.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Ye, I'm gonna go with the guy that killed my
man Europe.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
You know, he probably wasn't mentally all there at that point.
If he ever was, he might have not been great
to start.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
And then maybe somebody in the band, you know, played
an instrument that just triggered something.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
It could have been. Maybe it was creative differences.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
That's actually what happened. It has nothing to do with
his PTSD. Yeah, he's just like I didn't like the guy.

Speaker 2 (51:24):
He wanted to do jazz on the parade and they
were like, let's do French stuff to honor you know,
the army we actually served in, and didn't sit well
with him.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
And it just kind of like stewed for two months, yep.
And then finally in Boston of all places.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Did he get I assume he.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Got arrested and look into it.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, what doesn't matter. H Yeah, he's he's probably the hitler.
Him and segregation one one's he teosy ones he.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Anyway, that's our episode for today. We love you guys,
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Speaker 2 (52:11):
You well to be one different tier, right yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
But we'll get you kind of caught up with that
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Speaker 2 (52:21):
Discord wildly active discord that is.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
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Speaker 2 (52:35):
Yeah, it's very active.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Yeah, we talk college football. I mean there's a bunch
of stuff in there, so.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Yeah, yeah, as well as a lot of history.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
A lot of history stuff as well.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
But if you want a history place to let.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Loose and just kind of fuck around, hang out, we are.
We're pretty active in it too. Then they again, I
have all the time in the world, baby.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yeah, super mod over here. I'll like open it once
every four hours and be.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Like, oh, there's like three hundred messages after and you're like,
oh no.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
O oh god, I like respond to I'm tagged in
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Speaker 1 (53:08):
I try to go back and read them all because
I'm very appreciative of how much it's popped off.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I have read. I have read most of them, but
at some point, the conversations so far along that I'm like, well, no, no,
this is pertinent to me anymore. Yeah, it's a very
active discord.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Train keeps going. We'll work on the set a little
bit more. I got new lights coming, so we'll be
looking a little bit more professional next time you see us.
This is I'm specifically saying this for potential future you know, employers. Oh,
fair enough drop of quality. So yeah, this is not

(53:43):
an indication of what I can do. This is just
what I'm limited to.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I mean, you have hundreds of other episodes up as well,
so it's I feel like, it's.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Fine, We've got to put my best foot forward, right,
fair enough, Fair You're only as good as the last
thing you did. That's true in this industry.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yeah, I mean just ask Averie Johnson's family.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
M hm. That's the employees of the Ringer.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, what's the new lingo I gotta put out.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
That's a Simpson's character, isn't it. I mean, yeah, it's
not comic book man, but that's uh.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
No, it's like the teenager. Oh I don't know, mister, yeah. Oh,
he's got some real what are the kids called jumping? Now,
he's got some real bounce. He could bounce out of
the gym.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Dog. We should we should honestly do a Ringer podcast
for the Patreon, like, uh, the Ringer does a history show,
but with.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
All with all modern black slang.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Well that's we'll just be ring our employees in.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
He went hard on him, He went hard in the
paint on Lee at Getty's Burke. Mead went hard in
the paint on Lee.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
So the Ringer won't hire me, so cross them off anyway.
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