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We begin. We cannot begin this case like all the others,
because if we did, we would miss a key part
of this story. And before talking about the case itself,
we must first know the person who discovered all the clues.
Mary Pascuarilla Downey, who was born in Stratford on January nineteenth,
nineteen thirty two. Mary was born an absolutely normal girl,
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but in her childhood, as she began to grow, everyone
noticed something very strange about her, and she felt it too.
The other children played, had fun among themselves, laughed, and
saw things as they appeared to be, but she saw beyond.
She perceived the world differently. She saw things others could
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not see, could not feel, and according to her, she
could walk through time. She lived on this plain, the
physical plane, but she could see what had happened in
this place long ago. She could see it, interpret it,
feel it, rewind it. She could modify the images, move them,
but unfortunately, she could not change them. That is, if
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something had happened, she could not correct it. Over time,
she discovered that people called this being a psychic, but
she didn't like that word and considered herself a time walker.
Time passed, she grew, continued experimenting and realized that she
could do something called psychometry. She could grab an object,
touch it, and feel beyond what happened to the object,
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who its previous owner was, what they did with it.
The unknown fascinated her deeply. Even though she studied, trained,
got a job, and her life seemed normal, her true
passion was the paranormal, what could not be explained. In
the nineteen fifties, she founded a radio show called The
Strange and the Unusual, specifically in Bridgeport, Connecticut. There she
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spoke about everything that interested her, the paranormal, ghosts, apparitions,
and in the nineteen sixties her life changed. For However,
some sources say she founded or was part of the SPR,
the American Society for Psychical Research, but officially there is
nothing confirming this. The original SPR is very old, it's
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impossible that she founded it, but perhaps over time she
could have founded another one, something similar, with the same focus. However,
I have not found anything official about this, although what
is clear is that from that point on she collaborated
actively with the couple Teely and Lorn Warren. They met,
exchanged opinions, investigated together, and she became an instructor of
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psychic phenomena at Whosatonic Community College. They say she was
a mentor to the Warrens and showed them everything a
psychic could do. Though her greatest achievement was alongside the
New Haven police specifically investigating a case. The year was
nineteen seventy three, and specifically it was summer. Some sources
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say she was called in August, others in September, but
the story was impressive none the less. She was specifically
called by Detective George Massagen, who at that moment was desperate.
George had worked almost his entire life for the homicide department,
but he had never faced a case so complicated. At first,
he thought it would be the easiest case of his career,
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that he had everything, that it would be simple. There
were witnesses, evidence clues. He had it all and thought
he could close the case in two days. But as
the weeks went by, he realized it was impossible. He
had witnesses, blood, finger prints, none of it made any sense.
We're talking about the nineteen seventies. DNA research was practically undeveloped,
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and the police didn't have a computerized database, finger print records, DNA,
None of that so even though they had everything at
the scene, they couldn't make progress. That's why George decided
to turn to a psychic, specifically married Pascilla. He called her,
arranged a meeting, and without giving any information, asked her
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to please tell him what she knew. I couldn't find
exactly what he gave her to help her feel or
connect with the case, but some sources say the use psychometry.
They met in an isolated location far from the crime scene,
and Mary supposedly held a photo of the victim in
her hands. After a few seconds, she closed her eyes
and said the following. The first thing she saw in
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her mind was the color blue, blue everywhere in the clothes,
on the floor, in a car. Blue was the key
color in this case. She also saw water, felt it,
heard it. She didn't know if the crime occurred near water,
in a port a lake, she didn't know, but the
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water was very important. The next thing was a smell,
motor grease, a smell that reminded her of a mechanic's shop.
She asked for paper and pencil, began to draw and
sp scifically sketched a tall, thin man with thick eyebrows
and long hair. Fifth, Mary emphasized that this person would
not kill again, that she was his only victim, and
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that he hadn't killed before or after his target was her.
He was full of rage, released it and vanished. And
finally she said something surprising. She sighed and said, the
blood will tell. When the detective heard this, he was
completely shocked because many of the things she had said
made sense. These were details that had not been published
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anywhere in any newspaper, and even though some of her
insights didn't match, others were too striking to ignore. Everything
fit together in such a sinister way that when I
tell you the case, you're going to be stunned. Concetta Sarah,
better known as Penny, was born on March second, nineteen
fifty two, in New Haven, Connecticut, the oldest of two
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daughters of Pauline Carbone and John Sarah. It is said
that she never went on noticed. She left a mark
on every one she ever interacted with. She was sweet, approachable,
incredibly loving. In fact, in her year book below her photo,
you could read the following phrase, a laughing heart and
a cheerful spirit. Her life was always full of opportunities
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and joy, but also deep sadness. When she was only
eleven years old, her mother passed away and she became
the support system for her father and younger sister. She
had to grow up very fast, mature, move forward. She
had to prove to them that she was strong, and
I must tell you she exceeded all expectations. She got
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good grades, graduated and trained as a dental assistant. At
twenty one, she had everything in life, a good job,
an apartment, a steady partner. Her father was very proud
of her, and her friend saw a bright future for her. Moreover,
the year nineteen seventy three was her best. She had
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the savings was furnishing a new apartment, and although she
had a fight with her boyfriend, she kept going. It
was a silly argument, nothing important, and in a few
days they'd be back together none the less. On July sixteenth,
she took the day off. Why Penny wanted to disconnect,
drive around, take a walk, go to the mall, and
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buy furniture. That day, she put on her favorite dress,
a blue dress, and got into her beloved car, also blue.
She drove around, went down town and parked specifically in
the Temple Street garage right next to a shopping mall.
She parked the car on the top floor, the highest one,
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and at that moment the garage was full of people, family, shopping, strolling, resting.
It was broad daylight in a very busy area with
lots of movement. But as soon as she got out
of the car, someone jumped on her, a tall, thin
guy and five people witnessed the scene. That person had
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a knife. They struggled, fought next to the car. She
ran toward the stairs. He chased her, but at the
end of the run, Penny tripped and the man ended
her life. The whole scene was full of evidence. There
were five witnesses, blood stains, and there were fingerprints on
the car. The killer spent a lot of time there. Okay,
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he took the murder weapon, which later disappeared, but his
prints were all over the scene. He stabbed her, chased her,
went back to the car, opened the back door, and
grabbed a tissue box. But that's not all. During the struggle,
the killer cut his hand and his blood was at
the scene. The investigation revealed even more evidence. Mixed with
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the blood, there were other substances. They found something called
free on, a nonflammable methane derivative used especially as a
refrigerant and aerosol pellant. There was also motor grease, which
suggested the killer might be a mechanic or worked with vehicles.
That opened two lines of investigation. The first focused on
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the victim's circle. The main and only suspect was her boyfriend.
They had fought, were distant, and the police discovered they
were often like that. It was a long term relationship,
but on and off, and something very interesting. According to witnesses,
the killer looked like him, tall, thin, long hair. The
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boyfriend was arrested and placed in a line up. A
witness identified him, but he had an alibi at the
time of the crime. He wasn't even there. He was
at a restaurant and had twelve witnesses to back him up,
so he was ruled out. Then the police followed the
second line of investigation. They looked into all the mechanics
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in New Haven and asked all of them for finger prints.
They did the comparisons, none matched, and the case became stuck.
They took samples from several people and compared them to
the blood from the scene. But this blood was very specific.
It was typo and for the moment there were no
matches to be continued,