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This week, we invite you to join us for an in-depth examination of the story behind one of the UK’s most talked about inquests. 

"Natural Nurse or Toxic Influence? The Paloma Shemirani Story" brings you a five-part series exploring the case’s many layers, from family dynamics and public controversy to the medical, social, and cultural questions at its heart.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Dear Call It Conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the Some Dear Call It Conspiracy podcast, hosted
by Brentley and Neil Sanders. After nearly twenty years exploring
the world of conspiracy culture, we are taking our guests
and listeners on a guided tour of the rabbit hole,
our mission to discover where the truth lies.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Okay, so a lot of people might have seen Kate
Stremarani on the news recently, So we're going to give
a bit of background because it's quite a complicated sort
of thing that's been going on, and we've been examining
her statements, the statements of people around her, and we
were to sort of, we don't think and get to
the bottom of this binuscis imagination. But what we want
to do is we want to present all the facts

(01:04):
as his and let everyone decide what they think is
going on. Basically, So, who is Kate shann RANI Like,
did you know that she's abriginally from nothing? No, I
didn't represent So, yeah, she's a risiny from nothing, although
apparently she's not terribly proud of that that she's from nothing.
And she now lives in Essex and she she became

(01:28):
prominent in the conspiracy World during COVID. Apparently she's been
going a bit before that, but she really sort of
came into her own during COVID. A lot of people
might have seen her the first time or become aware
of her speaking to Fagus Square, and you know, she
certainly is a very confident speaker, and she carries herself
very well, like she was struggled as like, if you

(01:48):
weren't doing this, there's a game show somewhere that's like
crying out for a host, Like do you know what
I mean? A game show or a talk show. She
could have been Sally Jesse Rafael, Like she's got that
sort of presence, in that sort of aura, and I'm
not I'm not even taking a piss like I think
that she she certainly con do something like that, but
that's not what she's done. So a lot of people

(02:10):
might go, who's this Kate show, Ronnie, And you might
have heard her as the natural nurse. She promotes herself
as the natural nurse living in a toxic world, and
apparently she was. She was a nurse for a long time.
She claims to have worked in sort of emergency departments
and various different places, although there was a recent story
that came out and her son Gabriel said that the

(02:32):
only work that he was aware of her doing was
administering photox. But you know, find that's still a type
of nurses. She definitely definitely was registered as a nurse previously,
and apparently she's always been into conspiracies her around her
ex husband. They were very keen on David Ike, very
keen on Anlex Jones. The thing that she was super

(02:54):
keen on though, apparently was something I'm sure a lot
of people might be familiar with the book The Committee
of three Hundred by John Coleman, And if people haven't
heard that particular book, what it really says is that
there's this powerful group founded by the British aristocracy in

(03:15):
the early seventeen hundreds that they ruled the world ascension
and basically through about eight hundred people in politics, commerce, banking, media,
and the military. That's how they sort of ruled the world.
So it's a type of sort of illuminaty scenario and
a lot of people might have seen this excerpt from
the book that was floating around during wood during recent times.

(03:40):
At least four billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by
the year twenty fifty. By means of limited wars, organized
epidemics of fatal, rapid acting diseases, and starvation, the population
of Canada, Western Europe, and the United States will be
decimated more rapidly than all other continents until the world's
population reaches a manageable level of one billion, of which

(04:00):
five hundred million will consist of Chinese and Japanese races.
Selected because they are people who've been regimenting for centuries
and who are accustomed to obeying authority with that question,
So you know, and that's something for results to look
forward to. Basically, it's never really was explicit in the
book that these three hundred people are of any particular

(04:24):
religion or background, but can you believe that essentially there's
people who have tied it to the protocols of the
oldest of Zion. Basically, there's a chap called Arthur Cherips
Prudy Roch who wrote that the group may also be
known as the Hidden Hand, which is headed by the
Rothschild family of Internet. You'll finance based loosely around many of.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
The taitnational banking institutions and real families of the work.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
So yeah, there I think an interesting thing about this quote, though,
and you said, like it's been passed around recently, yeah,
is that it's always attributed to the Great Reset exactly exactly,
and it's not. It's from the Committee of three hundred.
But as you quite rightly said that that's where a
lot of people will have urged this. So anyway, Tremirani

(05:15):
came to prominence by basically describing the COVID nineteen pandemic
as either a pandemic or a scamdemic, and she said
in December twenty twenty that there was no evidence that
she could see that a pandemic exists, and she characterized
the supposed pandemic as a conspiracy to control the masses

(05:38):
and essentially saying that any vaccine that was introduced to
help people with COVID nineteen was probably and I quote,
a political tool to change people's DNA. So there you go.
So in a video published in spring of twenty twenty,
she said, just for Christmas, we'd all been told that

(05:59):
we're all die of measles. Now all of a sudden,
we're all going to die of coronavirus. I'm not buying
any of it. I think it's really important that we
don't just believe what the media tell us. And that's
a fair, fair enough statement. She basically latched onto quite
a lot of conspiracies. She's always been keen on them.
She's a proponent of nine to eleven being an inside job.

(06:22):
She's made statements about music videos containing satanic imagery which
apparently is designed to break up the family unit. And
she even dallied with quan On for a time. How
seriously is debated. So Kate actually tweeted at me when
I posted that nine to eleven thing that went viral

(06:45):
about like showing the frame of the building and the
sun really obviously going through it, showing that like limous
is the wrong word, but it certainly wasn't as solid
as structure as we've been leg by films like say
loose change. The design of the building, as you could
see through that picture, is not what the conspiracies have
been talents. Yeah, funny that you say flimsy because she

(07:08):
actually tweeted at me. A flimsy aluminium aircraft was able
to do that right for almost a decade. I went
on a Yak Safety and Emergency Procedures update annually as
long haul BA crew no, that would not happen, and
many pilots and engineers state that too, a vy fuel

(07:28):
won't burn hard enough to melt steel, right, does she
mean the big hairy black cow. I once watched the
footage of a man climbing up a mountain on a
yak until he got to the point where it was
too steep, and then he put the gap in his
backpack and climbed up the mountain himself. Anyway, Right, so

(07:49):
she's she's obviously, so she's keen on all the sort
of like hitting all the main points there is, and
she's you know, certainly knowledgeable within the law of the conspiracy.
So yeah, she's got you know, she's she's got a
broad church of conspiracy theorists. Basically. She also had an
idea about the marriage of Imran Kann and Miama Goldsmith,

(08:11):
and she was interviewed for an American hold On. I
just noticed Don Jarlie actually replied to her on this one.
Oh on, grown ups are talking. So yeah, so as
we can see, she's got a broad church of conspiracy
theories that she's involved in, which is not a criticism.

(08:34):
You know, when you're in that sort of world, you know,
everybody likes to look at the different things and the
different topics because you're open to these things. She had
an idea about the marriage of Imran khneg Jemima Goldsmith.
She said on this American health website vine, Imran Khan
has just accepted lots of money from Bill Gates. He's
banking him for all the polio He's banking him for

(08:56):
all the polio vaccines and everything else. Imran Khan marriage
to Miia gold Smith and her father is one of
those illuminati, those top families. They're all in bed and
toast sucking with one another. He's not married to her now,
but it doesn't matter. He was a cricketer and now
he's the head of the whole of Pakistan and in
bed with Bill Gates. We have to stand up to
these people because we're far out and umber them. And

(09:18):
I presume she's talking about cricketers, and she's absolutely right,
because they are an insidious bunch and you know, we
need too careful of She's also been the subject of complaints.
She likened measures to such as the lockdown and even

(09:39):
vaccinations during COVID to Nazi war crimes and the Holocaust,
and she referred to hospital deaths as genocide, implying that
they were being murdered by doubts and nurses. I believe
she was very very up on the Midaza Lamb thing
that which if people don't know, is the concept that
nobody died of COVID. They were all essentially given life

(10:02):
ending drugs, sedatives called mada's lam which were used to
murder them on mass. And you know, it takes about
five seconds of thinking to go hang on. Doctors and
nurse did that like what people that were just days
before caring for people were coerced into mass murdering people
that they'd previously been looking after. Neil, But these people

(10:26):
are stupids. They didn't know. They made no connection between
them injecting people with high doses of drugs and them
dropping dead and then it being written as a COVID
death as opposed to that not a one of them
spotted this, but than Christ the people like Ka Tremuran
and Jackie Dive. Anyway, By the way, the name is

(10:48):
not Kate, it's Ky. But apparently she feels that Kay
sounds a bit too working class, and they said that's
why she goes by Kate, which I don't think even
of them sound work in class. To be quite honest,
I think they're perfectly lovely notes find whatever each of
their own. She asked at one point, basically after calling
the National Health Surface the new Auschwitz, when are people

(11:12):
going to wake up on a cattle truck or in
the showers? And I mean, to be fair, you would
wake up in the shower, it is quite during. She
has described the government as behaving like Nazis in their
attempts to tackle the COVID pandemic, and she defended her
statements by saying, when I liken this to Auschwitz and
the cattle trucks, you tell me the difference. Because the

(11:33):
only time in history I could find whether the doctors
and nurses were able to end people's lives was the
nurses of the Third Reich. The nurses of the Third
Reich are here today. I don't care if they find
it offensive. I find it offensive that our elderly have
been murdered in care homes. Stop being a special snowflake
and saying they're offended. They are killing elderly, most vulnerable,

(11:55):
and that's obviously not true. Like, you know, even just
on a logistic sense, you know, it's it's a fabulous
conspiracy theory, like it would make a tawdry novel or whatever.
But there's just there's no evidence, Like you know, where's
the whistleblowers from within? Ah, they've all been made to
sign NDAs. Yeah, that that's how life works. I'd love

(12:17):
to I'd love to expose this mass Burger thing, but
I did sign that contract Villa time. Come on, it's
just silly. Now. I found one of her earliest videos,
and it's quite different to the way that she handles
herself now, you know, and again not a criticism. Everybody,
like you know, gets better, but right at the beginning,

(12:40):
she's basically well, I mean, she's kind of pinching other
people's ideas. Now, again, that's not necessarily a criticism because basically,
I always used to think of myself as like, really,
you know, I'm like like a DJ, pulling these obscure
records by which I mean stories and presenting them in
a way that like, you know, in full was the crowd. Yeah,

(13:01):
you know, like making a mixtape. Yeah we are, we
are made a mixtape of our conspiracy theories. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay,
So again it's not it's not actually criticism, But basically
it just shows that basically she has developed and you know,
come more into her own character. Now, basically this is
during COVID and she's doing all the COVID stuff that

(13:22):
you'd expect to say. She claims that the COVID test
were flawed and gave an eighty percent false positive, a
reading which she claimed would allowed the government to kidnap
you and put you in a detention seenter slash concentration camp,
which we also remember didn't happen. And she also starts
talking about the Andrew Kaufman concept that viruses aren't real viruses,

(13:46):
they are in fact exer zones. Okay, now ex zones
this type of cell that basically work as sort of
messenger signals and stuff like this, And this came from
a psychiatrist and buy all the reviews online, not a
very good psychiatrist by Andrew Korthman, who had basically well,
she goes on to say here that this is proven

(14:06):
by the eminent James Hildrith. She says, the virus is
fully in exo zone in any sense of the world. Sorry,
the virus is fully in ex zone in every sense
of the work. And this is a real quote from
a doctor called James Hildred. Now she does call him
repeatedly Dr Pidrith, but you know, we all make mistakes.

(14:29):
She also claims that doctor Kaufman is a brilliant doctor,
which he absolutely is not. So then this is from
Sarzkov to COVID nineteen and debugging you conspiracy theories by
Mohammed s Hakim. Interestingly, in this video, Kaufman twisted doctor
James E. K. Hildris's statement, who spoke about HIV in

(14:49):
his article, which he quoted as the virus is fully
in an exozone in every sense of the work to
support his claim that a contagious, infectious virus does not
exist at all. However, what Dr Hildreth meant was that
HIV is a virus that hijacks the exozomes in the
host cells for both biogenesis and viral particles and viral spread.

(15:12):
It is one common mechanism of immunity evasion by pathogenic virus,
including hepatitis A, since it may facilitate escape from neutralizing
virus specific antibodies. Clearly, Kaufman is intentionally skewing doctor Hildre's statement.
Support is claimed that SARS coarv two is not a virus,
but is in fact an exosome. Moreover, since SARS CoV

(15:33):
two is an RNA virus, whilst exosomes can also contain RNA,
it is possible to be mistakenly detected according to calcul State. Obviously,
this is calfulms misunderstanding because even though both of them
are indeed RNA, the human exozome merely contains human derived
small RNA, which is mRNA and micro RNA, and cannot
release another RNA species e g. Virus derives small RNA.

(15:57):
The human exozome is also unable to release virus derived
small rona if the virus itself does not exist in
human cells. Exozomes can only release virus derived small rona
if the cell has been infected with the virus, which
is basically a way of saying, look, if they detective virus,
even if it's in the exozomes, like with HIV, it's
still a virus. And Calfriman is completely wrong. I don't

(16:21):
think that thing. Well, no, that's just you saying that, Neil.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Well.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
The chapter Frank Visa basically got in touch with Dr
James Hildrith and said, please note that your name is
being used in Andrew by Andrew Kaufman in a video
claiming that there is no Sarze calf two virus because
it's all a matter of exosomes. And he responded, the
virus is real, the pandemic is real, and it's caused
by the virus. Period. So the main thrux of Kaufman's

(16:49):
work was discredited by the person that he was citing.
He went on to say, Hildrith, doctor James Hildreth, said,
apparently some people are citing my work on HIV and
exosomes to claim I dismissed the COVID nineteen virus is
a serious threat. Here's the paper, as you can read
for yourself. I do no such thing. COVID nineteen is
a totally different virus and it is a serious threat.
So immediately, basically, she's relying on something that is nonsense. Now, okay, fine,

(17:16):
these things happen, but you know, if you're promising this
as your own work, you need to be accurate. As
she's not being accurate by any stretch of the imagination.
She also does the whole the only test with the
PCR test, the only test for genetic material which is
a phrase that she stole from David E. Which sounds
sort of interesting until you sort of like actually listen

(17:37):
to the words that they're saying. Oh, they're only testing
for genetic material. Do you know what genetic material is? Well,
let's take a quote from the dictionary. Genetic material is
the biological substance that carries hereditary information and directs development
and function of living organisms. In most organisms, this is DNA,
which contains the instructions for building and maintaining an organism.

(17:59):
So if you take out genetic material and put in
the word DNA, oh, they're only testing for DNA, right, Yeah,
I mean yeah, I mean basically she she then repeats
the sort of Andrew covert thing that basically under a
microscope and exerc looks kind of like COVID, and she

(18:20):
fails to realize. The mistake that Andrew Korfman also fails
to realize was that the exosomes that you'd spotted were
coming out of an epstein bar virus. So his whole
concept that this picture proves that viruses don't exist is
a picture of a virus. Yes, that like, it's it's bullshit.
She also does that they never purified the virus. But

(18:42):
and she doesn't mention monkey kidneys, right, But it's because
the theory was when they were supposedly purifying the virus
to get the virus, they put it on these monkey kidneys. Yeah,
so they're just picking up stuff that was in the
monkey kidneys, as if scientists hadn't thought of that. And
this is because viruses have to culture them on a
living organism to make them reproduce. That you do it.

(19:04):
This is just a standard way. But again it just
relies on you're not quite understanding. Is that the same
as isolating the virus. It's the process. Yeah, basically is
part of the process of isolation basically goes through forget
balanced steps and part of it involves cultivating it on
a cell culture and often they will used monkey kidney cells.

(19:26):
And so that's what they said, it's all this just
genetic material mash up with monkey kidneys. You'll find anything
in there. It's like, well, no, you won't find whatever
it is. And some right, Okay, that's that's how it
fucking worked, right, But but never mind, And she she
keeps mixing it because she's basically repeating someone else, and
she keeps repeating that no gold standard test for COVID, right,

(19:48):
and and and she she what she's doing, that she's
misheard and misunderstood what Andrew Kaufman was saying. That Andrew
Kaufman was saying that there was no gold standard for COVID,
and what you mean that the Cooke's postulates weren't fulfilled? Essentially,
what he said was they never proved in a lab
that the virus existed. And if you infect say one monkey,

(20:09):
and put it into a cage with the monkey, the
other monkey will get will catch it. And they absolutely,
one hundred percent did for cat monkeys. They did it
in dozens of different types of monkeys. But again, this
is one of those things where like, well, if a
man who says he's a doctor's telling you this, they
don't believe it. But she she misunderstands it and claims
that the gold standard is for the PCR tests. You know,

(20:29):
it's a minor thing basically, but like, you know, it
just shows that she's sort of finding her feet basically.
She says then basically that when your body goes toxics toxic,
the exerzoms are released and this is what cures you.
And so Basically, she's also danning with the whole illness
isn't caused by germs, and any germs are actually and

(20:51):
any illness is actually the body detoxy itself, which is powerful,
powerful bollocks, but you know, was again popular at the time.
She she then she said, she says she doesn't believe
in germ theory or the theory of evolution because they're
not fact. And then she quite angrily says, even though
they spout it as fact in schools, and then she

(21:15):
does that whole thing about basically now just to explain this,
what she's saying is that the theory of evolution or
the theory of germs, in common parlance, theory means an idea.
And so there was a again the ship that went
around it. Basically this is, you know, noticed that the
theory of gravity is just a theory. They haven't proved it.
It's like no, in science, a theory is the understanding

(21:41):
of how it works. It's not the same. You understand
how words can have different meaning, like you know, like set,
for example, you set the table, or you set something down,
or you're in the top set, or it's a set
where a badger lives or a set of tennets or
whatever like this, did you understand words? Well, this is
one of those times where words have different meaning, right,

(22:05):
And that's it again, he's just silly basically. But she
says that she agrees with DODDR. Kauffman and his idea
that since the virus is exosomes, and since exosomes are
produced to fight toxins, then and see if you could
find the flaw in this idea, Brent, it would probably
be beneficial to cough in someone else's face, because then
they would get your exosomes in you un respond, conquess

(22:31):
the whole thing. The whole thing is the flaw. It's
not the best advice, is it, Like, yeah, you know
from doctor Bottom that is something you probably shouldn't do anyway.
So the main take of our TUK from this video
is that basically she didn't actually have any ideas, all right,
and she also didn't seem to fully understand the ideas

(22:51):
that she was promoting. But you know, again, like at
that point, if we're being charitable, when you're getting into it,
you just have found this knowledge and you want to share,
you want to get it out to people, right, So
not too much of a criticism. She also did videos
at the time basically talking about KEM trails, claiming to
be an expert because she used to work as an
air hostess. Yeah, she's also concerned about fluoride glypher sate,

(23:17):
which is a pest, you know, reader basically, and aluminium
in vaccines, even though I don't think aliminium has been
in vaccines for a year, but anyway, she's particularly concerned
about the aluminium in vaccines reacting with Wi Fi signals
and then penetrating with the blood brain barrier, which will
ultimately calcifinding a pineal gland. And you know, I don't

(23:42):
think there's a day goes by that we don't all
worry about that. So, you know, she's opposed to all vaccines.
She claims that they contain immortalized cells that simply won't
turn off. Exactly what that means isn't entirely clear to
the quartments, but you know it does certainly sound and
Sam Terrify. One of the earliest videos that I found

(24:04):
at birds as well was about ingredients and vaccines, and
in there she calls herself Nurse ratchet R A T
C H E. T. Now, thanks to the sarcastic barman
who did the video on this, he points out that
she's supposed to be from one the character from one
for other the cookies next, who is actually called Nurse

(24:25):
Ratchet r A T C h ED, so she's misspelled
named the character she's supposed to be. Also in the
hip hop parliaments, Ratchet either means or to be really
ghetto and grimy, like there's a Chris Rivers song called
that Ratchet Ship. Nurse Ratchet sounds like a hood based

(24:45):
porn film, but that's not what we get to see.
What we do get to see, though, instead, is that
she pretends to be working at Bill Gates vax HQ,
and she says that after World War Two, all the
Nazi doctors and scientists that all worked in the death camps,
they all came to work for us, which isn't entirely
true or true at all anyway. She lists the ingredients

(25:08):
that are in the vaccine. She says phenyl. Now a
Hitler loved phenol because it explodes the cells and causes
instant death. Now needless to say, it doesn't. Otherwise everyone
who took a vaccine would have exploded by now, And
we haven't. Also, phenol is preservative present present company excluded. Well,

(25:31):
all right, yeah, maybe that's what exploded your stomach. Fine,
fair enough, she's on something. However, something that would maybe
detract from that is that phenol is used as a
preservative in mouthwash, so it's probably not likely to be
this sort of cell exploding elixia that Hitler was super keenol.
She then claims the vaccines contain urea, which is an

(25:55):
ingredient of urine, and she claims that urea is used
in abortions, and then the kidneys of the abortive babies
it used to make more vaccines because the immortalized cells
in old vaccines cause cancer every time. Yeah, there's a bit.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Now, there was a particular type of abortion like those
done years years and years ago that it did involve
an injection of carreer, but it isn't done now basically,
and the kidneys of bought of babies are not used
to make more vaccines because the immortalized cells in the
old vaccines don't cause cancer every time or ever, which

(26:32):
is good.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know. She's also concerned that formaldehiding there kills your cells. Yeah,
you have full mount of hide in your body like
it doesn't that mercury it accumulates in the brain and
causes dementia and poisons you. You might remember the phrase
mad as a hatter. That was because all those people
who are using the stiffening of mercury for their hats,
they all went mental, which is potentially not the most

(26:57):
sensitive way of nurse to. But but whatever. She then
goes on to say that aluminium settles in the gut
like trapnel. Hmm, maybe that's what set you up as well.
Brand Alaminia is also used in lipstick and deodoran but
you know so, and in airplanes they're attacking you from

(27:20):
every angle with it. Potassium chloride, which is used in executions,
chemical executions, it isn't do you want to know why?
Because potassium chloride is a salt substitute, that's all it is.
Sprinkle it on your chips. She then says that fetus,
dnamortalized cell lines, chickens, hamsters, monkey, RNA and DNA, MOBLD,

(27:44):
fungus and immortalized cell lines are all put into vaccines.
So and needless to say that that's not true or
these elements of it that are true, right, Okay, But
but it's certainly not hamster. But she's talking about how
these things are manufactured with cells and certain proteins and supplentents.

(28:06):
But it's all that's all nonsense. So anyway, on April
the thirty, twenty twenty, she appeared at the event two
O two conference, which says that you can't catch a
virus and that masks masks that don't protect you from
viruses because they don't exist, which is good to know.
But she said, right, okay, and again see if you

(28:27):
can see the floor in this particular logic. He said
that if the virus was real as contagious as people
said it was, the doctors and nurses working in hospitals
would need to change the PPEE after each new patient
to avoid spreading the virus. But she hasn't seen that.
It's like, well, yes, that's what That's exactly what they

(28:49):
had to do. That's why there was such a fucking
crisis of finding and sourcing PPE because that's really what
they should have done. That's why they had to sort
of like have big exclusion zones hospitals and like spread
patients out because of the contagion. That's that's what happened.
She didn't see it happen. So I mean they do

(29:10):
it like now, like even without COVID, they throw their
gloves away and their masks away after seeing every patient.
Well I mean there is that. Yeah, like it's just
standard protocol. Yeah, it's it's nuts. Basically, she says that
you can't catch a virus to cough, sneezes, or vomit,
because if you did, then we would see people who

(29:33):
had just been taken to the ill people also getting ill.
So what she's saying is that basically, if you could
catch like a disease to coughs or sneeze it, then
what you'd see is somebody who wasn't ill going around
somebody who was supposedly ill, and then that person getting ill.
And she says that just doesn't happen. It does that,

(29:57):
doesn't it. I mean we've all seen it, Like that's
sort of how illness works. But here's the thing, Like
their argument seems to be for better PPU protocols, not
for the non existence of a virus. But anyway, whatever,
she says that if you consent to getting a test,
then what will you consent to after that? And that's
absolutely true. You know, it's the slipperiest slave, isn't it.

(30:21):
But she says that she isn't frightening because she's a
Christian and only God can decide when people die, which
is comforting. She keeps referencing Brave New World and saying
that we will all be forced to live in a
utopia or to live as a savage, and I don't
think she understands what she's saying to go on is

(30:43):
because like, think about that. It's like, we'll all be
forced to live in a utopia. It's like, what's the utopian?
A perfect world? So I mean what she's saying she's
trying to allude to basically, like in the Brave New
World that there was the real society where people were
forced to take drugs, have set all day terrible, and
then there was a then there was the savage bit

(31:04):
where the other main character whose name escapes me lived
who was distant from this society. But the metaphor just
doesn't really work quite honest, because, as she says, she
describes it as utopia. She says that Aldus Huxley was
a member of the Committee of three hundred and says
that Brave New World was a blueprint for society and
what is happening. And I'll repeat that Bravely World had

(31:27):
compulsory drugs and sex, and you know, unless of mister
fucking meeting like that's not actually going on or not
without some coersion. Anyway, that's what they're bringing in. And
this is all in the book. I advised anyone to
read it. I at this point thought, yeah, so she
fucking you because you don't seem to have understood themes

(31:47):
about it. But anyway, that's never mind. He says, to
live alongside this utopia will not do anything for us. Really,
so again she sees herself as the savage. But don't
keep saying utopia because utopia is a Devin right. Anyway,
She san says, I have four teenagers, you've gone through

(32:08):
the system. I would say that three of them are
very brainwashed, and I think they're going to be into it.
So I think we need to be able to make
some really good action here if we need to be
literally upp our knees for testing now not trying to
live in that utopia but not of it, which I
don't really understand what she means, but whatever she says,
we need to get out. Our government is corrupt. The

(32:29):
people who are owned five g are owned five gen
like And she was saying about the Communist Party. All
our government can be tracked back to allowing that, to selling,
to having money. Put in that that they've all had
a part in it somewhere. They're all in bed together
and they all have shares with pharmaceutical companies. They're all
linked back to Bill Gates and they're all in the same, big,

(32:51):
massive part, so we can't trust them. Locally, people can
go and they should go and they should report five
years of crime because it's a weapon, it's not insured,
and they need to report it to their police. The
police are saying, oh, no, it's a health matter. No,
it's not a weapon, it's a crime. If you don't
get any results, then go to the PCC and go

(33:13):
above them, get the officer's name, and if they won't
give you a crime number, just look at the time
and the date and write it down and then you
go to the IOPC. See if you don't hear anything back,
just keep hammering all your local MPs. They're probably not
very good, but you have to keep doing it. So
that's her advising people to keep harassing everyone until they

(33:34):
log five G is a crime because it's a weapon,
which it isn't, is it? So anyway. She was also
a host and a speaker at the Resistant Act for
Freedom protest which was Trafounder Square on the nineteenth of
September twenty twenty, and this is possibly where a lot
of people first saw her. Big Cavlcan characters there. Mark Steele,

(33:55):
the former bunter that shot a teenage girl, was there
to tell people that streak my can cause cancer and
that five G was a weapon that was going to
kill everyone. Perce Corbyn was there looking disheveled as usual,
and David and I Grand Standard ineffectually. One of the
things that I found funny about this particular the protest,

(34:18):
A lot of it was talking about how the government
was tyrannical and how like, you know, this was the
final chance to sort of do anything. What they didn't
mention is that if you have a protest in trofouls,
but you have to do mission for the government to
put that Yeah, exactly like they're trying to kill you.

(34:38):
But who might as well let them have a have
a rallying cry against against that first, It's only fair
on five g's she tweeted, I told you in twenty twenty.
In February twenty twenty, I said it on air on
local radio. I warned the public about five G. I
said it was military grade infrastructure being rolled out under
the cover of pandemic. That in you went viral over

(35:01):
two million views worldwide. Just as quickly I was punished threats, censorship, cancelation,
and then she went on to say that five G
absorbs the oxygen and strips it out of your blood illially.
Now who Also an interesting thing, a lot of people
use military grade as a sort of go to for
like really good, you're not military grade app you probably do?

(35:24):
Actually do you not? Military grade? Actually mean the most basic,
fucking shitty possible because it will just do so a
lot of people use that rong. But you know, anyway,
in this speech, she said that the vaccine for COVID
nineteen will be in the government and I quote will
be able to look at every aspect of what is

(35:45):
going on in our brains. And not only can they
pick it up, they can download into us. As She
also went on to say, they want you all wearing
a mask. There's no sigence behind that mask. The mask
is going to make you sick, has declared war on
the people of the UK, and she often described face
masks as dirty rags and even muzzles. And you know,

(36:08):
obviously there's a lot of historical precedent to this, Like
one of the things that we often saw in feudal
Japan was Ninja's lying dead at the side of the road,
not from sword fights, but from wearing their masks far
too long. Similar thing happened in England with highwaymen, but
obviously to a far lesser degree. Now, while she was

(36:31):
observing police officers amassing in the northwest corner of the square,
she urged members of the audience in front of the
police and encourage a chance to choose your side. Thirty
protesters were arrested and the police dispersed the protests approximately
three pm. But apparently a split in the campaign happened,
with Stealing Chemirani on one side and David Iike and

(36:54):
Pierce Corbyn on the other side. And at this point,
apparently some of its followers felt that Kate Schremarini was
a bit of an attention seeker and very possibly controlled opposition.
Oh oh hm, so she also had some sort of

(37:15):
far out ideas. She said on one social media post
that somebody had posted that the Nazis were amateurs of
being a dictatorship compared to New Zealand, which is not
really an accurate sort and Australia, sorry, which is I
don't know if you've ever been to New Zealand or Australia,
but pretty chilled out. It would be a very different

(37:39):
thing if Hitler grew up in New Zealand. Anyway, she wrote,
I could cur so she'd obviously been what she catched
me if I can, if you can anyway, She also,
again is a nine to eleven truther, and often now
here's the thing, but she's a particularly a particular type
of nine eleven truth. Do you know what type? What's

(38:04):
the woman's name, Judy Woods? Oh not well maybe actually
I don't know. But basically what she put was, there's
a picture of the twins hours and she put never
forget that no plane hit the building. Yeah it's probably
that Judy would stuff the energy weapons. Yeah, no, absolutely,

(38:27):
But the point is that she's a no planer as well.
So she says that everybody that saw the planes hitting,
or that have videos of the planes hitting, those are
actually holograms or some sort of project bluebeam type projection
that there were no actual real planes on the day,
which is the sort of the weirder end of nine

(38:47):
eleven conspiracies, we can say. She also basically compared when
the government New zeal And announced new lockdown measures. She wrote,
They're going to round your and your kids and send
you to a concentration camp. She also put another part.
She wrote of a report detailing how researchers were developing
a mask that would glow if you were infected with

(39:09):
COVID nineteen and she described this as the new cloth
star of David, you filthy disease spreader. Now, just to
be clear, she's not being anti Semitic there. She's comparing
people to Nazis and saying it in the same way
that the Jews would be forced to wear stars with David.
She's saying that that is what it will be. There
is a way of persecuting people for no good reason.
Because she must have remember sure that she doesn't think it.

(39:30):
COVID is a big deal. So how those people were
able to keep those masks long enough for it to
glow yellow without dying is another thing. But you know,
we haven't got time for that now. She also claims
that vaccine ingredients included acetone and aborted fetal cell tissues
that turn into cancer, and she once wrote on social media,
there is no COVID nineteen it's a scam. There is, however,

(39:52):
contaminated with vaccines, contaminated tests, and a lovely direct energy
weapon system being primed to activate those nano particles that
you've injected, ingested and inhaled, which you know it's nuts. Yeah,
directed energy weapons absolutely, she loves them, you know, but
they're not just us it once. This is are expensive,

(40:13):
aren't they You know they rolled it out about every
twenty five years. See what they can do with it.
We flow the post on Miss Memoradi's Natural Nurses a
Toxic World on online website which enduring the weekly Thursday
evening clapping sessions. But NHS nurses used a Nazi sweat
flag with a swastika featuring the words clapp now, so

(40:36):
I don't understand why people wet say, ben out of
shape about those things like you weren't forced to be
involved at all. It was called Camaradi, but hey, hak
so anyway, On the first of March twenty twenty one,
the Metropologisan Beliefs reported that they charged Shemarai and the
six breaches of the ukuld Coronavirus Regulations, along with fellow activists.
Here it's Corbin an interview on January the twenties. January

(40:59):
twenty she told us that no vaccine has ever been
proven safe and no vaccine has ever been proven effected,
and that she has seen no evidence to even suggest
that pandemic exists. And she claimed that symptoms of COVID
were of FAG linked to the rollout of the five
G telephone network. Now there you go with classic. She
also contends that Jewish financer George saw Us It's responsible

(41:23):
for the Black Lives Matter protests. This is because the
Open Society Foundations had contributed money to groups that advocate
racial justice. I'm not even sure that they were directly
to Black Lives Matter. Not that it matters in any
way is nonsense. People support Black Lives matter because police
in America killed black people anyway. So she compared es

(41:46):
saw Us to the Nazi leader Adolf That and employed
images of Hitler and the Nazi Spaska to the effect.
Scharamaraani contends that saw Us and Bill Gates are promoting
untrue COVID pandemic lies for their own advantage. During one speech,
she said that, and you like this again, this is
a classic if people have followed, who say, Alex Jones
or anyone like this, what's the biggest cause of You'll

(42:09):
know this, Brent, what's the biggest cause of death for
African Americans?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Police? No?

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Okay, and not even black on black crime. It's more
racist than that. The biggest cause of the African black,
the African black American it's abortion. They're killing your babies
before they even get out of the womb. And who
funds there, George Sauros Planned Parenthood. So what they have

(42:37):
said to everyone out there who is black, they've said
that you're more susceptible to this virus and that you're
going to be given the vaccine first because they don't
want you. You're not in the agenda. This is white
supremacist designism. Ooh, actually definitely meant that one yikes in it. Yes,

(42:58):
you also basically promoted during on conspiracy theories, particularly about
people in the Democratic Party. She thinks that basically Christianity
has been persecuted and the globality is perpetuating the sexual
abuse of children on a mass level, possibly as part
of some sort of Satanic ritual. She says Christians are

(43:19):
being persecuted all over the world by pedophiles who are
all in bed with one another, and she claims that
these pedophiles all worship the devil. Pedophiles wouldn't be in
bed with each other in bed with children. I don't
wish to be Foredanci about pedantry, but you know pedestry,
but sometimes you have to. So anyways, you write on

(43:41):
social media, you're not nurses, you're not angels, You're criminals,
are liars. Patients all with DNRS on arrival, patients and
relatives are aware murdered jenocide. The NHS is the new Auschwitz,
fourth generation warfare. Silent weapons for quiet wars are the target.
And obviously, as we've discussed recently, onto our silent weapons,

(44:03):
why it was is a hoax document she was who
went on to say, and this is quite a long
one for all those fullish covidiots at her vidiots out
there thinking that I am in any way concern about
not being on a corrupt organization's register. I'm not. I'm
far above being associated with a common purpose organization that
has worked to facilitate an agenda to one council life

(44:24):
saving treatments in order to cause premature death, two murder
the old infirm, to save one vulnerable, and six three
high deceive and coerce to the public following the lying
government COVID agenda for support the racketeering of the NHS,
the industry formerly known as the healthcare system swindling the
nations discounts food parcels for staff on full pay when

(44:44):
there are many far more deserving and in need. Those
that danced in full uniform and ppe gear thinking that
you were funny or entertaining, You were not, who were
a disgrace an embarrassment. You have damaged a flagging job
that you used to be a profession. Shame on each
of you. The NMC is a corrupt organization facilitating and

(45:06):
covering up the murder of patients with NHS and private facilities.
Nurses have been given a license to kill and dinner
from NICE on April twenty nine, twenty twenty. Patients scoring
six or above on the critical Frailty score who cannot
reach their designed goals can all have can have all
treatment removed this is murder. So you know she has

(45:31):
golf for the dramatic, which cannot be denied. What was
this all about? Well, in June twenty twenty, as a
virtual hearing of the Nursing and Midwifree Council, which regulates
nursing and midwire professions in the UK, Tremarani was given
an interim suspension for eighteen months. And this was now
she turned up. Can you guess who she took to

(45:53):
or she had as the hearing as her Mackenzie friend
to sort of you know, the speaker case Parland. Not
quite No. Mark Steele, the man who claims the fan's
designer for the government that says that five years a
weapon that he was on the health design and that

(46:14):
the street lives will kill you. It wasn't he isn't.
He was an ex boun to that accidentally shot a
girl and him and his brother I believe were trying
to make a screen like a video screen that goes
inside a helmet, like a motorcycle helmet, so like a
sort of you know, virtual cameras that you can see
behind you. Nothing to do with weapons systems at all.

(46:35):
The man's Charlotte anyway, They both criticized the hearing for
not listening to their claims about five GP in the
cause of COVID and that vaccines are dead, so you know,
and she also again described people who carry out vaccinations
as Nazis complicit and the tyranny and lies, and then
Steele describe the nursing and Midwid three councilor as being

(46:55):
complicit in genocide. Now, I don't know whether you've ever
been before a tribute, right, but calling the people that
are running it Nazis that are complicit internar lives and
that they're also complicit in genocide, they tend to frown
on them. They tend to frown on that quite strong.
And so that was probably not the best tactic. And

(47:17):
you know, it never rains, but it palls. And in
twenty twenty, Friend of the Show in Marianna Spring interviewed
kay Shechmarani's son, Sebastian, and this is on the BBC
World Service. I was do you remember when this happened?
I was amazed by this. To be quiet, so I
thought Jesus Christ essentially joined the interview at Sebastian as

(47:42):
her son told Marion Spring that he contacted contacted BBC
because he's his mother's claims and ideas and dangerous and
could have an impact on public health. He said, what
she's doing is dangerous. This is for her five minutes
of faith. I don't want to be here talking about
you know, but it's something I think that we've got
to do before these ideas get bigger and more people

(48:04):
fall down the same route that she's trying to taint
them down. You can only prevent it before it happens.
Thousands of people are taking are taking here to be
the source of truth and the same and I was
I wish I could tell them that my mum is
not the person that you think she is. She's someone
with a massive amount of self interest and loves being
the center of attention. Sebastian now only communicated the community.

(48:28):
This is from the article. Sebasti now only communicates with
his mother by a text. After she came to Viewmas
part of the global plot, she sent me a text
a couple of weeks. You need to listen to me.
If you don't, you and your sister are going to die.
The CIA has a plot half of the UK's population
is going to be killed in five years. The Abel
says that Kate realized that such theories will a way

(48:50):
to feed her narcissistic personality complex. The daughter of a
postman and a bookkeeper, she says that she changed her
name because she thought the case sounded two working clots.
I remember her telling you, I used to train myself
not to speak with the Midlands accents. Gabriel who would
calls Kate keeping a pathological twelve cats and pets because
she loved having stuff under control. Now, actually, like if

(49:11):
you listen to Kate, you know the notting maxine code
as in which would cold code youth Like occasionally she
does that thing with the ooh that that and you
know I spotted it. He recalls Kate keeping a pathological
twelve cats as pets because she loved having stuff under
her control. She used conspiracy theories to control their children.

(49:32):
She wouldn't let them wear sun cream cases, claiming it
caused cancer, or use fluorid toothpaste. She would shout at
us if we drank water from the tap, we had
to distill it. She thought they were fluoridating and the
water says gave them. She called us or leeched. It's
about seeing and Gabriel. The two Sons would totally be
the David Dyke Guide to the Word The Global Conspiracy

(49:53):
and How to End It by David Ike, which theorizes
that the world is controlled by a hidden elite and
claims that the royal family shipping lizards. So the first
time that we saw her sons, and I remember being
shocked at the time because it's like Jesus, that horrible
for everyone involved, you know, like it must been written
for the sons to feel that they have to do that.

(50:16):
And obviously it must have been not pleasant for her.
You know, we were or human, aren't we like? But
but yeah, it speaks volumes that they felt that they
had to do that. I didn't really see any sort
of malice in it, more sort of exasperation, do you
know what I mean? You felt more like rather than attacked,

(50:38):
more like that, what are there's an intervention? Now obviously
that's not how it was seen because he was doing
seeing the BBC in Marion Austrain. According to Conspiracy World,
both the BBC and Marion Springer evil and therefore this
this is the thing. But Marion spring is that the
reporter that would do that type of story. I thought

(50:59):
she and of it very well to partners anyway. On
the twenty eighth of May twenty twenty one, the MSc
Practice to finished. The Practice Committee decided to remove Chemarai
from the Register of the Nursing and Midwi Free Council
after five years. She will be able to appeal the
decision if she wants. Now. These are the charges I
found the actual tribunal details of the charge that you,

(51:23):
as a registered nurse between November and twenty nineteen of
every twenty twenty one, on one or more occasions than
the respect of COVID nineteen pandemic and your vaccinations. A
post comments on social networking sites. B posted videos on
social networking sites. C Spoke at public protests or events.
D gave an interview to speak on the subjects.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
Two.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
One or more of your comments at charge one were
above A the contrary to official health advice and all
the law be inflammatory in derogatory. And three your conduct
at charge one was carried out to promote health advice,
which is contrary to official health advice, encouraged members of
the public to distrust and or disregard official health advice.

(52:03):
Encouraged members of the public to distrust and or disregard
other nurses and or healthcare professionals who hold opposing views
to you, and to encourage members of the public to
act contrary to the law and or official health advice.
The registrants comments and advice given in respect to the
COVID nineteen pandemic and vaccines include, although we are not
limited to, the following denying that there is a global

(52:25):
COVID nineteen pandemic, stating that there is no evidence that
a pandemic exists and no evidence sarskov two has been
purified as is and is in existence. She states the
vaccines have been rushed through because they want to kill you.
She states, I am a nurse. I don't agree with
the vaccines anymore because I know what's in them. She
attributes the symptoms of COVID nineteen to radiation from five

(52:48):
view technology. She described pandemic as a scout, states that
you can't catch a virus. She describes vaccines as poisons.
States that the flu vaccine causes long health term issues
that can be fatal and causes damage to brain cells, organs,
and dementia. She states the vaccines cause strility and changes
the person's DNA. She states the ingredients of vaccines include

(53:10):
astone and aborted feetle tells cel tissues that turn into cancer.
Advocates that members of the public and their children should
not agree to be vaccinated against flu or measles, and
states that no vaccine has ever been proved safe and effective,
suggesting that ingesting disinfectant is less en harmful than having
a vaccination. She suggests that the HPV vaccine actually causes

(53:31):
cancer and killed girls on the spot. She encourages members
of the public not to socially distanced and to get huggy.
She discourages members of the public from wearing masks, stating
that they do not stop viruses. He states the wearing
a mask makes people sick and increases the risk of
bacteria and the risk of infections. She states that a
person ill with COVID may help other people by coughing

(53:52):
on them. The registrant has also spoken and posted comments
about nurses and other healthcare professionals. The comments include that
nurses and other healthcare professionals are currently murdering patients, describing
nurses as being complicit in murder, describing them as criminals
are liars, comparing them with Nazi extermination and euthanasia programs,
describing healthcare professials as needing to be renamed as death

(54:15):
squads she's given, saying that healthcare professionals have got a
license to kill, suggesting that nine out of every ten
nurses are crap, describing nurses has been complicit in genocide,
saying that lots of nurses are really shit, saying that
the NHS is a genocidal organization that is murdering patients
because it's been subject to narzification. She states that hospitals

(54:38):
practice bullshit medicine. She says our elderly are being systematically cooled.
She says that the NHS is full of lying liars
of lies who are complicit in murder, are corrupt and
complicit in genocide. So yeah, they also considered aggravating factors.
Now I'll just say it's second, that's a nurse. You

(55:00):
don't want to nurse thinking those things. They're in certain things,
Why the nursing register would say no, thank you, We
would prefer you not to be included in our register. Also,
there are aggravating factors that she demonstrated no insight remorsal remediation,
that she abused her position of trust, that her misconduct

(55:22):
was repeated and lessened for a significant period of time,
she engaged in behavior which has put the public at
significant risk, that she did not constructively engage with the
NMC throughout the investigation, and basically that concerns have been
raised publicly biased buts and national media outlets about spreading
misinformation and fosslords regarding COVID nineteen vaccinations on social media,

(55:43):
with calls for the government and others to step in.
So Sebastian appeared on the BBC Radio four program in
June of twenty twenty one, saying that his mother is
very dangerous and it's called for police to prosecute her
after she compared the nurses and doctors in the UK
to Nazi walkerms. Now you must remember she was in
investigation for preaching COVID rules at her and Pierce Corbyn,

(56:07):
and we'll come on to it in a little bit.
She was crowd for there. She eventually raised nearly seventy
thousand pounds, but we'll come onto that. He says that
basically it's only a matter of time before somebody acts
on bound advice that she's given to the country. He
argued that his mother is beyond help. The problem is
that she's so arrogant in her wordview. She really truly
believes that she's a conduct for the truth on a

(56:29):
spiritual level, not just on scientific Then he also repeated
on LBC that when he went to get the vaccine,
his mother was concerned that his DNA was going to
be changed because the enzyme in the vaccine was and
I quote created by the devil himself. So there was
a second rally on the twenty fourth of July twenty

(56:50):
twenty one, and police said that they were examining a
video from the event, which Shermaranie En urged crowds sent
her lists of doctors and nurses involved in Igland's national
COVID inbaccination campaign. Schremari said, get their names, emailed them
to me. We have a group of lawyers. We're collating
all that. She then said, at the Nuremberg trials, the

(57:13):
doctors and nurses stood trial and they hunt. If you're
a doctor or a nurse, Now is the time to
get off that bus, get off it and stand with us.
The people all around the world, they're rising and even
Keir Starmer called for Schremuraani's comments to be investigated. Formerly
asked on LBC radio if you thought that what she

(57:34):
said constituted the crime, he said, yes, it's absolutely shocking
and I think the footage when I saw a bit
on social media was shocking to see. I do hope
it's going to be investigated and dealt with appropriately. A
spokesperson for Down the Street said the Prime Minister absolutely
condemned those comments. Doctors, nurses have done a truly generic
job throughout the pandemic and continue to do so. Any

(57:55):
violent threats or intimidation of this kind is completely unacceptable.
As you know, it's a matter of for the police
to take decision on. On the thirtieth of Aust of
that year, an anti vaccinan protest led by Schremaranni was
followed by a temporary closure of a vaccination of facility
in Churchill Square, Brighton after a smoke bomb was set
off in the nearby shopping center. And this is something

(58:17):
that's interesting. In August twenty twenty two, the Office of
National Statistics began using the protected title registered nurse for
official employment statistics, as suggested by nursing campaigners. In a
response to a campaign against unlicensed individuals such as Schremarani
continuing to refer themselves as nurses. So it was basically

(58:38):
written into law that saying you're a registered nurse when
you're not a registered nurse is a crime, and that
was due to Tremerani continuing to call this up a
nurse after she'd been struck up. She's also you know,
she's an anti vactor, out and out, she's made a
lot of statements and she's even got into full fact,

(59:00):
you know, the deep Oneking thing. They've got an entire
sort of section on her. She said, yeah, auspicious. She
said the children can now expect to receive almost one
hundred vaccines on the recommended schedule. Just think that was
true or false? A false? Absolutely, it's not correct. Apparently

(59:22):
children in the UK would be offered a maximum of
forty doses by the age of seventeen, and obviously you
don't have them if you don't want you all though
it's on bloody good idea too. He also claimed that
no vaccine has ever been proven safe or effecting. What
do you think was the answer to that? False? Yes,
all vaccines used in the UK safe. In stringent texting,

(59:44):
we have decades of safety data for many common vaccines
or vaccines used in the UK have also been prove
effective in sting of testing. We have decades of efficacy
data and many common vaccines. She also claimed that no
two vaccines have ever been tested to get for their efficacy.
What do you think, pants on fire? Exactly? Many vaccines

(01:00:06):
have been tested together for efficacy, including as part of
the recent cod administration of the COVID nineteen oh free vaccines.
She's also been called outline out and outline right. She
does this show or she used to be on the
ominously titled Sons of Liberty radio station Okay, which sounds

(01:00:29):
like a sort of militia come biker group come sort
of maybe gay but anyway, She was asked by a
caller if she'd ever heard of naid On out of
shore syndrome n A D O N A T A
S S H A W. Nade On out of show
syndrome comes from hypocrinatus compound. Now, this caller basically said

(01:00:53):
that his uncle had developed this since coming down with
ETSD after fighting in the Gulf War. So that's naid
On as your syndrome which he came down, which which
comes from the hippocrinatis compound, which is caused by post
traumatic stress disorder, and Chase ran Rani says, and I quote, yes,
I have come across that. Yes I have. I need

(01:01:16):
to research it more, but yes I have come across that.
Do you think she's come across that? Do you happen? Yeah,
not at all. No, it's a made up thing. It
was a a YouTube debo called mister Bose Overhead who
used to have a real sort of thing for Kate.
He phoned in and basically made it up. On the

(01:01:38):
same program, Got a different show. Another caller asked if
she was aware that the new iPhone transmits a clappersoidal
virus when it's close to your head, and she nods enthusiastic,
and she says it yeah, And she's heard that it's
connected to five gen darper a clappazoidal violence emitted from

(01:02:01):
the new iPhone. It's not real, ben I spoiled, It's
not okay, But she's also been called out by members
of the conspiracy world herself. Right, Okay, she was called
out by this particularly stupid called Laura and Nina. But
on this right, she was on this occasion for read

(01:02:24):
kay Sari appeared, appeared, and it was seen by others
that she had defended Russell Brand when he had been
accused of rape, essentially saying that it was handsome and
it's a family and children, so it wouldn't really need
to rent. She said that it's trial by media because
he was speaking out against the government. She wonders why

(01:02:44):
a sixteen year old girl would go out with an
older man, because she says, when I was sixteen, my
parents wouldn't allow that. And she also says, and remember
this one of the cases where the sixteen year old
girl was an occasion of oral rape. Pa Tremorani sensitively says,
and this is a nurse, remember or previously a nurse

(01:03:06):
forced anything into my mouth, I would simply bite it off. Yeah,
it shows a lack of sensitivity. Shall we say it's
it's monstrous. She also charges one hundred and ninety five
pounds per hour for consultations. She also does a sort
of a monthly thing we could both five ninety nine

(01:03:26):
ors so long for a year where you get to
sit around a round table and have zoom call with that.
How often this is I don't know. I tried to
look at these consultations and it's on a sort of
you need to book it. There are no free spots
for the next six months. I don't know whether that
music she's not doing it anymore or that she's completely
booked up. I presume the former. I don't know. So

(01:03:50):
she she also she promotes all sorts of silly products
as well. Basically, like one of the things that she's
she she likes is she tweeted out it's real and
it's happening. One of the best ways to detox and
this is from chemtrails. Basically, it's real and it's happening.
One of the best ways to detox heavy metals is

(01:04:11):
with zeolite three sprays, three times a day into the roof,
three drops, three times a day into induce totally safe
for babies at a lesser dose. WHOA, yeah, that's not
very responsible. But let's talk methylene blue. Yes, that mysterious

(01:04:32):
blue dye I have seen mentioned by health lately. Read
the article below. Mitochondrial repair, brain health, anti viral action
and even as a hopeful room amdy in neuro degeneration
and chronic fatigue. It's not just science fiction, it's forgotten
medicine now she's fucked up there because she should have

(01:04:52):
put it's not science fiction. Saying it's not just science
fiction implies that it's science fiction. But hey, hoy, let's
let's not pick on these things. She's got some wacky
ideas about the heart. What do you think she thinks
about the heart. It's a hologram rather far off. She
doesn't believe that it's a pump. She thinks that that

(01:05:16):
the heart is not the pump, that the diaphragm is
actually the pump. And this is an idea. The diaphragm
is the pump that pumps your blood around. Yeah, she
took this from some guy called Larry cut Wow, Facebook, Pope,
they told you the heart was just a glorified meat pump,
that it squeezes and pushes blood like some crude mechanical device.

(01:05:37):
And she's but because the diaphragm is the pump and
everything is connected to it, they lie about everything. So yeah,
she's got some pretty, shall we say, unusual ideas. Guess
who else she was a real big fan of. And
she said he needs everyone's help because it could be
you next. Real journalists face this.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
They tell the truth, such as Juliana Sange What journalists
journalists in inverted commas. If you're referring to here and
comparing to Juliana.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Sange Alex Bellfield not far off but worse, mister, go
then Richard D. Hall. Oh, she's talking specifically about Richard D. Hall.
She's responding to conspiracy theory being conspiracy theories being sued
by father and daughter after accusing them of taking their
injuries at Manchester. So one could potentially take from that

(01:06:34):
that she believes that Richard is correct that no reded
at Manchester, which is grim to say the least. And
she's also not afraid to rub shoulders with people that
might be considered by some to be politically dodgy. She's
who said this about her? Are they killing the elderly?

(01:06:57):
This Thursday from eight pm, you'll be able to watch
my latest episode of Silence with Kate Tremorani exclusively on
my Rumble channel. Kate is a very lovely and very
knowledgeable woman. I really enjoyed spending time and having line
playing conversations with her. This one goes down rabbit holes.
Don't miss it. Can you guess which? Again an inverted

(01:07:19):
conors journalist? That there's them Lord of praise on Kate
Tremorani there because he's you know, I think she's a
lovely womandelling Paul not far off Tommy Robinson, Wow, yeah,
praise from Caesar.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
She's also got some ideas about other vaccines. You can
remember that. I mean, we don't know if you know this, ses,
but very tragically a British woman died from rabits. She
was scratched by a dot and she developed rabits. And
somebody on somebody on Twitter called Bohemian atmosphere, but I'm

(01:08:01):
calling bs on this, rabies jab anyone. And so what
I think it's suggesting is that basically the big Farmer
is going to roll out some sort of sure maybe
some injection to rabies. And you know, I hate to
tell you this, but human atmosphere about thirty odd years
late on that there is a vaccine from rabies. Isn't
it like you have to have it if you go

(01:08:21):
abroad to certain places. And also there's an afterwards treatment.
It's treatable until you become hydrophobic, at which point you die.
There's no cure for it after the point that you've
become hydrophobic. Do you have seen videos of people hydrophobic.
It's fun and yeah, used to used to have to
have very painful injections in the stomach. Ozzy Osbourne had

(01:08:42):
a series after eating a bat or not all of it,
just ahead, but you know anyway, She responds to this
rabies vaccine, another lie, the worst bite, the worst infections
I saw when working in an A and E clinic.
Which which is the worst bite? You think, I don't know, man, Well,

(01:09:06):
I personally, it's just going to be a dog in it. No,
she's saying that the dogs aren't dangerous. It's not dangerous
to get bitten by dogs. She's saying that there's another,
even more the most deadliest creature out of there, cat,
no man, human bites, the bacteria in the mouth dogs, cats, humans,

(01:09:29):
and the poor constitution of the Bye tea that is
your infecting. Yeah. I think if I had the choice
between getting bit by I don't know, a lion or
a person, I'd go person every time now to be fair, right, Okay,
essexx A and E or wherever she work, probably doesn't

(01:09:51):
get that many lyon injuries. Maybe on a Friday night,
maybe early hours of the morning, but they're going to
be a rarity so you know that's it. So why
are we talking about Kate shremaran Because just recently on
Dune the twenty third, twenty twenty five, a story appeared

(01:10:13):
on the BBC written in print and also this was
shown as a Panorama program and the headline read our
sister died because our mum's cancer conspiracy. Because of our
mum's cancer conspiracies, say brothers, and this is a story.
This is taken directly from the BBC. Gabriel and Sebastian
Shremarani watched with concern as their mother, Kate was a

(01:10:36):
notoriety during the pandemic, eventually getting stuck off as a
nurse promoting misuformation about COVID nineteen. Then their sister Piloma
was diagnosed with cancer. The doctor has told her that
she had a high chance of surviving with chemotherapy in
twenty twenty four, seven months later, she died, having refused
the treatment. The brothers blamed their mother's anti medicine conspiracy

(01:10:56):
theories for ploma's death. At twenty three. Kate Sheremrani's not
responded directly to the allegations we raised, but she has
publicly blamed the NHS for her daughter's death. She and
her ex husband, Colerma's father, Pharamouse Gener wrote to hers saying
that they have evidence that Palerma died as a result
of medical interventions given without the firm diagnosis or lawful consent,

(01:11:18):
but the BB season seemed no evidence to substantiate and
his claim. Coloma's eldest brother, Sebastian said, my sisters passed
away as a direct consequence of my mum's actions and beliefs,
and I don't want anyone else to go through the
same pain or the loss that I had. I wasn't
able to stop my sister from dying, but it would
mean the world to me if I could make it
that she wasn't just another in a long line of

(01:11:39):
people that die in this way, says Gabriel. Palerma and
her twin Gabriel, along with Sebastian and their younger sister,
grew up in the small Sussex town at Ugfield, where
they were exposed to conspiracy theories at home. The soundtrack
of their school run as gable says, conspiracy theorist Alex
Jones talking about how the Sandy Hooks school shooting was staged,
or that nine was an inside job. The brother said

(01:12:02):
that it was their father who first got into conspiracy theories,
which piqued their mother's interest. The children absorbed outlandish ideas,
including that the royal family were shape shifting lizards. As
a young child, you trust your parents, so you see
that as the truth, he said, says Gabriels. Sebastian believes
that their mun used her the ideas as a way
of controlling them. On one occasion, she decided that Wi

(01:12:23):
fi was dangerous and switched it off at home, ignoring
his pleas that he had to submit GCS courseworth. He says,
the only that only fed the joy that she had
been using her rational systems of beliefs to control me.
According to her sons, ktre Mriani's anti medicine views were
accelerated in twenty twelve when she was diagnosed with breast cancer,

(01:12:43):
even though she had the tumor removed through surgery on
the NHS. She credits Alternative Therapist for a recovery and
says online how she used the programming, including juice and
coffee enemies become cancer free. She does not use the
word cure. Apparently, Looma absorbed some of these ideas. Chantau,
one of her best friends from school, said that Paloma

(01:13:04):
used to spoke about her mum curing herself and she
believed that sunscreen could cause cancer, and so I remember
that she used to get really badly burned at school.
Message is that Paloma shared with her then boyfriend and Harris,
who will be a larger part of the story, which
has shared with the BBC, revealed a relationship with her
mother that had moments of love and care, but also

(01:13:25):
times when Paloma saw it's a toxic and abusive now.
At the time when Palerma got ill, she was actually
estranged from Kate and hadn't spoken to it for a while.
The two boys have been a strange for much longer.
Over Christmas twenty twenty two, she told Andy that her
mother was blaming her but the other children not coming
home for Christmas, and she said, I'm so sick. Oh,

(01:13:47):
she wrote, I'm so sick of being abused. My mother
kept coming into her room and in her words, being mean,
she said in one message, adding that her mother had
hit her. Pallona left for a friend's house. She later
shared her parting message to her mother with Anders, saying
it was the last straw. You hurt me every time
I let you in, and I never ever will again.

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I am beyond her. In late twenty twenty three, not
long after graduating, sadly, Paloma started having chest pains and
breathing difficulties as she went to the hospital and they
suspected a tumor, and Ander, boyfriend at the time, says
that Palomo was one of the smartest people I've ever met.
We were hopeful that it would not turn out to

(01:14:30):
be malignant, and Palerma made light of it, nicknaming the
tumor Maria the Lumnass, he said. But sadly, on the
twenty second December, they went to Mason Hospital, where doctors
gave her the diagnosis of non Hodgkins lymphoma. Untreated this
kind of cancer with faithful but doctors told Ploma that
she had an eighty percent chance of recovery if she

(01:14:51):
had keeping therapy. Paloma told her mother the news because
Ploma said that she still wanted her support, even though
you know they would go through Rob Patrick's a month
for crying out aloud. You know, I'm sure people can
relate to that, And so she asked if Kate would
come to the hospital. Now, apparently Kate then texted Ander

(01:15:13):
to say, and I quote all in caps, tell Paloma
not to sign or verbally consent to chemo or any treatment.
And so for advice, apparently Paloma reached out to form
a partner of Kate Sharark Tremarade called Patrick Vickers. Apparently
they had quite good relationship ploma the newer but he's

(01:15:34):
an alternative health practitioner and Paloma asked him about what
the doctors had said, and he said, apparently that the
eighty percent chance of the cure was exaggerated and he's
instead encouraged her to start something which is called gerson
therapy and then maybe considering therapy if for symptoms didn't

(01:15:57):
improve after six weeks. And apparently mister Vick has said
to the BBC any assertion that I played a role
in Palerma's death are legally inaccurate, and then apparently send
them some stuff saying that gerson therapy works. Now, girzon
therapy is a strict plant based diet, reducing supplements and
coffee elements, and some people claim that it can be

(01:16:19):
used to treat some subbs of cancer. And she was
also Palma was worried about the negative side effects of
chemotherapy according to her boyfriend, and it can cause fatigued sickness,
hair loss, it can affect fertility, and she spoke to
staff about freezing eggs so that she could use them

(01:16:40):
in orders to get opinion later in life should should
have a fertility be affected. Apparently, the Cancer Research Society
says gerson therapy can also actually have severe side effects
including dehydration and inflammation of the bow and heart and
lung problems. Hramarani promotes ideas which she recommended to her
daughter called the BBC Online. She says that she sells

(01:17:04):
apricot kernels for their potential health benefits. Now that's because
they have larteral in them, which we discussed on a
Premius show was actually came from the National Alliance Attack magazine.
I believe it came from a near an artification. It's
completely not true basically, So Palma continue on this girls
for therapy and apparently some friends saying that she was

(01:17:25):
gaining less and less well. Chantelle of friends said that
she said she had a new lump in her armpit,
but her mother said that this meant that it was
the cancer going out of her body. Now, that's interesting
that if that's true, that contradicts something that will come
up later, because if that's the cancer going out of
her body, we'll come on to that in a bit,

(01:17:48):
but put a pinion that mentally, Chantelle said, I know
she's really struggling, and she said that. She added that
Palermad told her at this point she lost control of
her bodily functions. In March twenty twenty four, ended her
relationship with and and he and other people said that
he felt that Kay was trying to isolate Kay has

(01:18:09):
got a different opinion on that, which we will come
on to because we're going to be fair about all
of this. But they felt that she was potentially being
isolated now sadly, in July, well, what happened was Sebastian
and Gabel were so worried that they started a legal case.
And this is what This is a court case that
will be brought up, and in it they were essentially

(01:18:31):
trying to get control over Helma's decisions, take her away
from her mother, because the mother was actually got according
to her, according to an interview that she did, she
got power of attorney over why she felt the need
to do. This is not entirely clear, but she apparently did,
and so Gabriel and Sebastian went to court to try

(01:18:52):
and and to get some more influence over her sister,
and sadly she died before the court case came to
any conclusion. Unfortunately they weren't The brothers weren't told about
this until several days afterwards, and they only found out
that their lawyer, one presumes due to the court case
and obviously gave us it's like being burned alive. You

(01:19:16):
feel the searing pain every time it comes out of
your mouth. And Ander said, I broke. I was just
like screaming and crying at the top of my lums.
Sebastian said that he blamed himself and I haven't come
to terms with that at all. So what had happened
is apparently Palerma had suffered a fatal heart attack which
was caused by her tumor. She was taken to the

(01:19:38):
hospital and put on life support, but after several days
it was switched off. So what is Gerson therapy right?
Which is this therapy that Paloma decided to take And
she claims that he is claimed by the BBC Artipal
that Patrick Vickers promoted this ka Tremorani had As promoted

(01:20:00):
Gerson therapy a lot. She claims that it is what
cured her of her cancer, even though she'd had it
surgericy reviewed. Anyway, a German doctor called Max gers On
developed Gerson therapy in the nineteen twenties and thirties. He
claimed that it helped cure his migraine headaches, and so
he went on to use to treat other diseases such
as tiberculosis and cancer. Foll of Us believe that changes

(01:20:23):
the diet and nutrine intake can help treat cancer, but
also think that cancer is a symptom of disease of
the whole body, so it aims to rid the body
of toxins and strengthen the body's immune system. This way,
supports say it can bring back the body to its
normal metabolic state and the body can heal itself. Now.
The Gerson regime has three parts strict organic vegetarian diet

(01:20:45):
made up of fruit and vegetables, high and potassium and
low in sodium, vitamin and mineral supplements, and specific enzymes,
and coffee or castor oil enemates. So they believe that
basically you've got too salt in your body or sodium
and compared to the maut tassium and the diet will
regulate this in order to make you free. Now it's

(01:21:10):
quite a hectic regime. You have to have up to
thirteen glasses of fresh juice a day. In order to
cleanse the liver. You have to have up to five
coffee enemas every day because it's believed that coffee animals
helped to excrete toxins from the liver and colon and
that help that taking certain supplements helps the body to

(01:21:33):
get rid of cancer cells. Now there's absolutely no scientific
evidence about this tool. It simply isn't supported five coffee
enemas every day. Christ done bye. Now what's interesting is
and again put a pin in this. In some situations,

(01:21:53):
the Gurson diet can actually cause severe side effects. Some
are potentially harmful. For example, coffee enemy relieve a lot
potassium from your body have been known to cause infections, dehydration,
bits sot on, mineral imbalancers in the body, heart and
lung problems, even death. Constipation and inflammation from the bow
politis a regular long term use that enemies can weaken

(01:22:16):
the bow muscle Also, side effects include loss of appetite,
diary and sickness, abdominal cramps, aching, fever and sweating, cold saws,
dizzy and weakness, dizziness and weakness. So if we were
not convinced that she's a promotion of gersal and therapy,
this is one thing that she tweeted about. It the

(01:22:38):
gersal therapy by Dr Max Gerson. This was my chosen
therapy after refusing chemotherapy for an aggressive and deadly breast
scancer thirteen and a half years ago. He was a
genius ahead of his time according to one famous man.
So he was a genius ahead of his time according
to one very famous man. I don't know who that
very famous man in anyway, his therapy reversed all disease,
including cancer toulosis. Who was totally persecuted that When you

(01:23:03):
read the actual history, it is incredible. Propaganda was alive
and well decades ago. Remember the canter is an industry
that makes billions annually in oncology drugs. True informed decision
making and true informed consent relies on access to all
information and not just that information from those who are
set to greatly benefit financially. Financially deemed science and actively

(01:23:24):
seek to suppress all else. The third quote on the
list was from Prince Charles about his good friend Peter Bishop.
Her book Time to Heal is an incredible read, good stuff.
So anyway, this came out on the BBC and people
went mad about this. On Twitter. Somebody basically called Dr

(01:23:50):
Luke Central, who appears to be on her side, was
responding to doctor Susan Oliver and he put the BBC
made the support. BBC did make it up that in
fact her sons exploited a death or a pay check.
Why did they forget to mention that her daughter actually
patch passed away due to the NHS giving her fatal

(01:24:11):
doses and the treatment and Kate Tremarani and she's talking
about her children here. Let them all fall on their swords.
My silence has been for a reason. Our silences, our
silence as are parents, has been for a reason. Her
documents do not lie. And when we are ready, we
will show the world because it affects everyone what is

(01:24:34):
being done. So what's being hinted at there is that
basically the BBC is completely lied. They've paid gave him
a Sebastian and in actual fact there's some sort of
cover up that's got up, and Palma was actually sadly
killed by some sort of NHS interventional pot Fastian tweets bat,
have you got any evidence that the BBC or any

(01:24:55):
other news organization paid as we have access to the
messages from Kate Paloma training that Kay was physically beating
Poloma and blaming her for getting cancer. Do you want
to see You're a clueless bastard art it's about you know,
also tweets out last year Kay, Kate Tremarani murdered my sister,

(01:25:15):
her own daughter, ploma Paloma was twenty three. She died
from totally curable cancer seven months after mistakenly putting her
life in Kay's hands. Kay was physically beating her the
week that she died. And obviously, you know, we don't
have any skin in the game. We're just reporting on
what's been said by both sides, like so, you know,

(01:25:36):
we don't think that we're accusing anybody on either side.
What we're going to do is we're going to layer
out everything that's happened, let people come to their own inclusion. Now,
obviously some people jump to Khari's defense immediately. Sonny Pulton,
who apparently she's a sort of journey She used to
be involved in People's Voice and stuff like that, and
I think she's got podcasts. I think she's friends with

(01:25:58):
Kate Chamaran. She tweeted out the BBC's long term targeted
attack on campaign at Kate Tremorani is unconscionable. Enlisting the
help of her own children to blame her for the
death of her daughter is one low too far. Report
to Marianna Spring, the gatekeeping asset truly is a piece
of poison. He was put in place for a reason.

(01:26:21):
You don't have to agree with Kate about everything or
even anything to realize that the BBC has long been
after her. This is a grieving mother. The pino infested
corporation as targeted. I know whose side I'm on. So
that's nice support from Sonya Pulton against the po infested corporation.

(01:26:44):
Whose targeted friend? Anyway, So this sort of went on
and Kate starts sort of tweeting out a defense. Essentially,
of course they should, because we have Colone's own testimonies
to the High Court. We also have all the notes
that she obtained from the hospital, and we also have
the histology, which does not shirt what Marianna is Space

(01:27:06):
is stating. And we also have the death certificate which
does not say that either. Why do you think we
engage with Why do you think we didn't engage with
the program? The will out, as she means, the truth
will out, and when it does, you will all hang
your head in shame. And so what Kay Chamerani is
saying here is basically like you know, essentially the BBC
is ill informed of their line. She goes on to

(01:27:29):
tweet awkward when that son is strange from the family
and hadn't seen his sister in over a year. Quite sad. Really,
what is more disturbing is your first for gossip and
so you know that that's she might she mightber We'll
be telling the truth We don't know at this point,
which simply don't know. And it's a horrible situation all around.

(01:27:51):
Sebastian counter and said, it's strange from what family came.
You're a serial killer, praying on the vulnerable people from experience,
You who physically attacked me every week until I left
home at seventeen, You who threatened to email incident in
decent pictures of me to my teachers on the day

(01:28:11):
before my a level started. You who has killed several
of your own pet cats and dogs by accidents. You
who murdered my sister or your terrorists supporting act's husband,
who you cheated on with your son's tennis coach. The
man you almost drove to suicide in twenty fifteen because

(01:28:35):
you took his business, his home, his cars, and his
kids after your endless affairs. The man you encouraged to
beat us every night. The man you married after you
got pregnant with another man's child and aborted it. Remember that.
Shut your mouth now permanently, or I take these and

(01:28:55):
more details the press. We'll see how many people put
their trust in you as a natural healer. Once they
know who you really are. You're going to lose this one,
your platform, and your freedom, You fucking monster. Wow. Wow,
a lot of accusations there, and there was no response

(01:29:19):
as Sebastian followed up. Really quiet, aren't you now? Kay
packing your suitcases to run to your lover boy Patrick
Vicker's hospital in Mexico, the one where you and he
make vulnerable cancer patients pay thousands of dollars, feed them vegetables,
and then hide their deaths, then find more. We will
find you there or hiding in your house the one

(01:29:42):
you kicked your ex husband out of after screwing the
tennis coach behind his back, the one you murdered the Lomeren.
We will find you there. Lurking online more fake accounts
and bobs to boost your online persona and chat GPT,
writing your emails. We will find you there. Your time
is ending to stop running your mouth. You're only making

(01:30:04):
things worse for yourself. As you used to say to me,
and my brother and sisters die quietly. Well, this is raw, man,
This is like, this is terrible that it's like playing
out in public. But all power to them, man, because well,

(01:30:26):
you know, somebody is telling the trees that somebody's lying is,
aren't they like and you know this, if they genuine
believe that, which they certainly seem to do, then wow,
that's that's passion, isn't it. And like this is your
horrible situation for them to be in, Like you've got
to feel for Sebastian Gabrielle at this point. Certainly just

(01:30:47):
if i'f only not for the death of the sister,
like anyway, Sebastian goes on many very very stupid case
supporters have said some variation of this to me before
be grateful or a shamed. They say, because your mom,
this woman abused and isolated me, my siblings and other
vulnerable people for decades. She's a monster. I owe her

(01:31:08):
no allegiance. I pray there is a hell for her
to burn in. I have no issues with my own character. Yours, however,
is lacking your block for idiocy? Reflect on that, motherfucker.
That's basically response. Now, Kay went on the Richie Allen
Show in order to state her case, and this is

(01:31:29):
this was sort of what what peak is because it's like,
this is okay, a lot of people might be sort
of looking at this story from outside and not have
the time or inclination to sit through hour long, hours
long interviews. So that's what we've done because we just
want to be completely impassionate and paid both sides. Like
people are going to say that we're biased, we're not.

(01:31:50):
We're going to go over what her response was this
to say, we don't have any real opinion on this
or skin in the game, to be quite honest. So
but sebastians on to Richie Allen, who had Kate Tremerani
on and we'll talk about that interview shortly, but like,
basically it was pretty softball. Basically, he he said, did

(01:32:13):
you ask about any of this blah blah blah blah blah,
And Richie Allen basically came came back and said, I did.
Actually I pushed her back on several things, which isn't
sutly true. Like he was a very softball interview. And
although in Richie's fairness, when she started accusing people of
crimes and things like that, Richie did say that these
people aren't here to defend themselves and so, and he

(01:32:33):
did cut her off on a few things, so in
all fairness to him, he did do that. But anyway,
Richie basically says, like, why don't you come on to Sebastian,
Come on, Richie Allen Show speak and he says, We'll
finished talking to the mainstream outlets first, then I'll consider
joining you for a talk. It's strange of you to
say that the BBC piece was garbage when you don't
have first hand experience of the story. It could only

(01:32:55):
mean that you have bias towards Kay. Whereas I know
the story because I am part of the story for
Christ's sake. I've read Kay's messages to Poloma. Every screenshot
on the BBC article has taken Poloma's iPad, which I have.
Kay refused to do an interview with the BBC, probably
because she knows that she's going to prison. See what
part of the story was unbalanced? What balance are you

(01:33:17):
expecting when somebody kills her own daughter. I grew up
with Kay beating me, isolating me, hunting vulnerable people among
my friends, her friends are online, and later killing her
own pets and launching her COVID career. Do you really
think that you can form a more accurate view of
this monster than me? Wow? He also responds to the

(01:33:39):
Unity News Network, who basically was sticking up for Kate.
And I think somebody basically said to him like, huh,
he keeps calling a ka. He can't even get his
own mother's name wrong. And Sebastian responds Kay in inverse
commers Kate Tremerandi, Yes, she even lied about her name.

(01:34:02):
She commerced Ploona into not doing proper treatment. Kay was
forcing Paloma to do coffee enemies and eat vegetables instead
of doing chemotherapy. Within seven months, Palerma was death. How
do I know this? Palerma's brother and I have Kay's
text messages on Paloma's phone to prove everything. I grew
up under CA's control. I know this cunt. While Paloma

(01:34:23):
was dying, Kay hit her banda from going outside or
talking to other family members, forced her to dump her boyfriend,
and told her it was her fault that she had cancer.
Kay is a murdering, lying, cheating serial killer. Want to
know who she really is? Read below? Fuck you, your organization,
your paymasters, and the air that you breathe you support

(01:34:45):
this monster. Good will finish you after we're done with her.
Everyone also responded to Jackie Devoy, who also decided to
stick her head above the parapet and stick up for Kate.
I'm accusing you of being a grifting shield who pushed
misinformation about my sister's death to further your own engagement.

(01:35:06):
Is that clear enough for you? You wish'd which of
the West type motherfucker? Which you know it's fair? So anyway,
so what was all this sort of about? Kate went
on Richie Allen The Richie Allen Show, and she had

(01:35:28):
some ideas. Now straight out of the gate Richie asks
why her sons would be saying this and why in
particular they would go one panorama and make such a
spectacle about it, and she has a theory about it.
Can you guess what this theory might be? Mind control? Yes,

(01:35:49):
my control, but that's only for band son, that's right.
So basically she said that the Oli was Gabriel. She
says that is in MI six that she's been told
actually that he'd die and just had his second interview
for m I six recently, even though she told that

(01:36:10):
he hadn't passed that. She suspects he's essentially six and
that's why he's targeting her. Can we see the floor
in that other than the fact that that's probably made
up on it, let's bought six. It doesn't do anything
in the country. No, it's for foreign operations, not domestic operations.
So it would be able to get five that would

(01:36:31):
be targeting her. But whatever. But yeah, she says that
basically that when the other one went to eaton she
heavily implies that he was brainwashed because that's the only reason.
She also says that Sebastian is in a lot of trouble,
implying that he could be being blackmailed and that's why
he's turned on her. But she's she's got you know,

(01:36:53):
she's not tattletale, so she refuses to say what actual
trouble she is. Now, I have to be on Okay,
I don't know the facts of this story. But when
she said that, I am Chris, who was sating here
watching it with me, both said yeah, you're full of shit.
I was not convinced by that. It seemed like a
very obvious attempt to smear anyway. He goes on to

(01:37:17):
say that she denies ever having had an abortion or
killing pets, and she keeps saying that anyone can look
at her medical records, which, let's be honest, is fucking
meaningless because it's like medical records. Hey, what's you on about?
Like you could have gone to a private clinic, or
you could just not include it like medical that's a

(01:37:40):
meaningless state. Oh you could check my medical records. We've
gone then hey, what what do you know? What I mean? Steve? Also,
the killing of pets would not be on medical records.
It just wouldn't. Anyway. She also says that because her
children thrived in school, then she can't possibly have abused

(01:38:02):
them in any way, as some saying, because obviously, like
being successful is an indication that you've never been abused anyway?
Are the vite her to look at almost every artist
in the history of art of every kind, the amount
of people that have been abused that have gone on
to do very, very impressive things. I come sot off

(01:38:25):
talking about literally half of Hollywood likest like that's just
simply not true. The idea that people cannot thrive if
they've been abused is frankly offensive. The Hajar. She also
says that Sebastian in the past has assaulted both Gabriel
and both of his sisters, and in the past that

(01:38:46):
they've happen to call the police officer on him, and
that he's a very troubled young man. But she does
admit to having an affair that ended her marriage, so
so that that was accurate according to both parted. She
don't know as long as to say that she isn't
anti chemotherapy, even though she I mean, that's the impression
that I got. I can't say that for certain, but

(01:39:08):
I certainly got the impression that she's at anyway. She
just says that she wanted Colonea's blood and her histology
records because she wanted to get other opinions because she's
got oncology units in Iran, Mexico and Germany. And she
claims that basically the doctors were really hostile to her

(01:39:30):
and they said that no, they wouldn't do that. They
wouldn't just give her like a vial of Colona's blood.
And Richie somewhat catches her ound right here because she says, well,
who were these other facilities and she says that the
one in Iran was a relative, so it may well
be HEREX I don't know, And Richie someone catches her

(01:39:51):
out by basically saying, why aren't one of these clinics
just right to the NHS and requests that the blood
and histology were which seems like a fair fair question.
She says that that's not allowed. I can't do that.
I don't know if that's true enough. It doesn't sound now.
She says that basically, whilst Poloma was in hospital, the

(01:40:15):
Paloma told her that they kept taking blood from her
and that she was attached an IV, which Kate says
was suspicious because she shouldn't be on any treatment at all.
She also says that Coloma was afraid of her doctors
and afraid of the nurses. And I have to say again,
that may well be true, but I wasn't. I thought

(01:40:38):
that was that sounded like an embellished added bit of
of the puzzle. She says that basically the images were
injecting her with a mysterious, unlabeled chemical, and that the
natess refused to hand over ploma's his sology. She says, right,
despite the NHS's claim that she actually had non Hodgkins limphonema,

(01:41:01):
she did. She said that once they finally got her
blood in histology, the symptoms indicated and looked at the symptoms,
they indicated an infection, not cancer. Now, she claims that
this was all taken to the police, but that the
police completely ignored her. Now, I'm not entirely sure that

(01:41:22):
I believe that. Also, there's this there's a discrepancy there.
Do you remember saying that that lump in her arm
pit was just the cancer working its way out of
her body?

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
How can the cancer work its way out of her body?
She didn't have cancer. Yeah, that's where we were going.
There's something that doesn't add up there. Now, it could
be the chantelle may have misremembered, or it could like
or she could be lying, or there's a flaw there
in case story we don't. She basically claims that she
didn't actually have a tumment, there's nothing inside her, and

(01:41:58):
that the really high dose steroids that are used in
chemo were administered without need and that this caused a
lot of problems. She says that the doctors didn't rule
out infection or a TV or TB or other conditions
such as ascagillus, which is a fungal lung condition, and
it's like that to me came across as like what

(01:42:21):
she's saying is that she knows more than all the
doctors and nurses that have seen her doctor, which may
be true, but if not, I don't think it is.
It came across as very, very arrogant. She also basically
claims that Alma was being treated with all sorts of
drugs against her will, without her consent, and not being

(01:42:42):
told what these drugs were. She also claims that when
Helen was taken her home, that's when she got really
and she blames not the ongoing non hospitins limp phona
because that didn't exist, and we will come on to
why she thinks all this going to the form more
detailed dead panic. Now she lets slip the howld you

(01:43:05):
weight Brent kilogram? I don't know killogrounds, but twelve guns
I weigh about seventy eight kilograms. Okay, can you have
a guess what weight Polona was at the time. Thirty
seven kilograms. That's under six stone. Now, later she she

(01:43:28):
will go on to say that that's fairly normal for her.
She was the ballerina and heaviest. She was only eight stone,
so that's still a loss of over two stone. That's
a very very slight woman. She goes on to say
the fact that she was so slight was one of
the sort of aggravating factors in her death because they
gave her an overdose adrenaline essentially. But it's like, why,

(01:43:50):
why why was she? Why was she that thing? Especially
if if as Kay said, she didn't actually have cancer.
So she claims that I made the decision not to
do chemo, but the drug raspbury case actually killed Plona. Now,
raspuy case doesn't actually appear to kill from what I've seen,

(01:44:10):
but it can cause anaphylaxis like there's a sort of
rare allergic reaction. So what happened, according to Kay, was
that she was at home and all of a sudden,
Colona passed out. Now Kate Tremarini thought that she choked. Okay,
Now she claims as she doesn't explain, but she will

(01:44:31):
explain in a later interview, which we will come on to. Right,
she claims, when alone went into heart failure. And this
is a letter very much misunderstood. This this is what
Kay said on the Richie Allen Show. When the first
responder arrived, she prevented her from performing CPR because the
first responder had really long fingerheads. What when the first

(01:44:56):
responder arrived, Unless I'm mistaken, she said that she stopped
her from giving CPR to her daughter because she had
really long fingernails. Also at this point will note that
a daughter was in such a state that she required CPR.
She'd also called an ambulance. Now, Chase Shermary doesn't believe

(01:45:19):
that her daughter's got any problems, and she doesn't believe
in the NHS. Why is she called a doctor? Why
is she put an ambulance? She says that basically, well,
her daughter was dying, she was receiving options all the
time via a nasal canular, and this was a nasal
canula that Kay had put on herself. But she says
that the paramedics gave her a drug via a gun,

(01:45:40):
like a sort of one of those gun injectors rather
than a needle. They gave her three doses and six
and a half minutes eventually four doses, and this killed
her daughter. She implies that a daughter was paralyzed with
other drugs because and the overdose killed her because she
was only thirty seven kilograms. And she says that the
paramedic overdose. But why does she call the paramedic in

(01:46:03):
the first place. That doesn't quite add up. Fuck, they
killed her eight claims that she said as she as
she claims now that they killed her with a drug
called metara menol, matara minol. I don't know what it is.
This is the drug that she claims was killed in.

(01:46:23):
She previously said the rabbinicuets or whatever, but she now
says metana. And also she then later says that it
was actually an overdose of adrenaline that killed her daughter.
So I don't know whether she means that it was
a combination of these drugs. She also says that she'd
always always ignore oncologists because the COVID vaccine killed people,

(01:46:45):
which is irresponsible. So she then goes on to say
that an overdose of adrenaline killed the daughter. Now she
she has a theory. I don't make you like this.
This is her theory. He has a theory about why
the anacious and she she's not into words why the
anshus killed her daughter? And guess why it is harvesting organs?

(01:47:09):
So so, just to make it clear, a lot it
is to kill people so they can steal their organs,
so these organs can be transplanted into other people to
help them live as part of the depopulation program. How
does that work that you're using the organs to save

(01:47:32):
other people's lives, other people that would have died without
that organ That's a pretty poor depopulation program. He then
says that afterwards, the paramedic was all sweaty and nervously giggling,
implying that he knew that he'd fupped up and he'd
accidentally killed this woman. So Kay went to the fridge
and gave him a bottle of water. She's just watched

(01:47:56):
this man. Yeah, that's she said that he's all sweaty,
nervous and giggly, so she gave him a bottle of water.
I don't know, so basically, she then says that later
Palomas Bodla before she died, Coloma's boyfriend and Sebastian forced
their way into her house and physically assaulted Paloma. She
also accuses Ander, the boyfriend, of sexually assaulting Colona. She

(01:48:20):
also then goes on to say that Lucy Lefpi's victims
were all killed with adrenaline for the purposes of a harvesting,
which is not true. They also both Richie Allen and
Kate Tremarani make the false claim that organs need to
be taken from a live subject. Now. Immediately off the

(01:48:42):
back of this, I had some questions. Why did plom
a way so Lyn? Why was she doing ghirs on therapy?
She didn't have cancer, What actually caused her to go
into heart family that required CPR? Why did you stop
the CPR? Those are all legitimate questions. Maybe there are
answers to them. I don't know. I honestly don't know,

(01:49:02):
but I have to admit I came out of the
Richie Allen interview thinking that certainly not thinking that I
had the full story. It left me going, there's details
here that I want to know more about. It may
well be what do you think, But it feels like
a context was missing. Certainly does doesn't it, So we'll

(01:49:26):
get into that in Part two.
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