5/5 Natural Nurse or Toxic Influence? The Paloma Shemirani Story

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Dear Call It Conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the Some Dear Call It Conspiracy podcast, hosted
by Brentley and Neil Sanders. After nearly twenty years exploring
the world of conspiracy culture, we are taking our guests
and listeners on a guided tour of the rabbit hole,
our mission to discover where the truth lies.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
So welcome to episode five. And you may remember that
the inquest into the untimely death of Coloma Shan Ranny
has started and various people are attending this and trying
to make what they will out of it. Also in
the United States of America, Robert Kennedy Jr. Decided that
there is a massive problem with organ theft of people

(01:04):
who are having their organs removed from their bodies whilst
they're still alive, only to find that on close examination
this has never once happened ever, and it's a complete
misrepresentation of certain reports and papers and studies. And this
is a bit of a running theme because Kay has
been doing this as well. So we're now on July

(01:25):
the twenty sixth, and Kate tweets remember that I'm not
sure what she's responding to. Oh, hang on, I do
know what she's responding to. Anyway, remember that twenty eleven
palliative care funding review, the Landslily Report, page fifty four.
End of life care is to be broadened and incentivized.

(01:47):
Do look it up, folks. Now get your head around.
Everyone's an organ donor unless you walked out, and you
cannot take an organ from a cadaver, a dead body.
The best organ donors are thirty, are under thirty, with
a beating heart, with a circulation, ideally on a ventilator.
Then take a look at the National Organ Retrieval Service.

(02:08):
And she then puts a rainbow emoji and writes the
National Homicide Service question mark and a cult question mark,
which really makes you think. And she's responding to this
twat called Dr Muhammad Adil. Do you know of Muhammad Adil? Sure?

Speaker 4 (02:30):
I recognize a name.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, he's one of these people that sort of tried
to make a name for himself in the conspiracy world
during COVID and ended up ruining his career. I believe
it's actually a hit replacement doctor ll that's his specialization.
And I actually had a bit of an interaction with
Dr Adil on some podcast that I was saying that

(02:55):
certainly the host of which has since died, and so
I don't think it exists anymore. But he was in
the chat room shouting nonsensical stuff, and it was very
early on during COVID he really really went down the
first that don't take a vaccine if they're going to
have a vaccine, and then latterly down the sort of

(03:16):
COVID doesn't really exist and if it did, it wasn't
dangerous anyway in New World order shit. And apparently one
of his children is autistic. And I think the combination
of I think he'd been reading a lot of stuff
about anti vaxt stuff and the combination of this and
COVID pushed him somewhat over the edge. But doctor Adel

(03:41):
tweets out morphine used for slow deaths the Liverpool care
Pathway during COVID pandemic, resulting in the deaths of thousands
of elderly people. Midazlam and morphine used for slow deaths
Liverpool care Pathway hospitals were bribed to put patients on
a pathway to death during the COVID pandemic. And this,

(04:02):
this is not true. This is this silly thing that
we've talked about many times on various shows that we've done.
The idea that a huge amount of sedatives were bought
just prior to the COVID pandemic and that is seemingly
evidence of mass murder. And this originally came from a
chap called Paul Plinko, who's a Catholic priest who has

(04:22):
a very similar attitude to the doctor Burne that we
were talking about. He has this idea that the soul
inhabits a body, and he rose to certain prominence. There
was there was a case where a young man semi
estrange from his family was on live support and his
wife of fiance wanted to turn the life support off

(04:44):
and Patrick Plinko, along with the poor man's family, petitioned
the hospital to not turn off the lives because they
felt that this was murder, that the soul was still there.
It's a very stupid and complicated thing and based on
nonsense essentially, and he's also been found he was also

(05:07):
a fan of lied in certain court cases. But anyway,
he started this idea which was then stolen by Jackie
Devoy who took it to the Ikes, David Ike and
Iconic and made a film about it. And the idea
is that basically the doctors and nurses were murdering people
with this sedative. The reason that this sedative was brought
on mass was because it's vital to have sedatives to

(05:30):
help people not panic when they're on ventilators, particularly if
they're in a deep state of illness that COVID would cause.
And so that's why they bought lots of this, because
they preempted that lots of people were going to be
on ventilators. There's absolutely no evidence of an incentifized death pathway.
There's no evidence that anybody was bribed, and nobody's come

(05:54):
forward to say, yes, I was involved in this, not
a single one of the let's face it, one hundreds
and thousand of doctors and nurses who would have had
to be in on this, known what they were doing,
and yet chose a to do this and be their
conscious didn't prick them afterwards in any slight way. It's
utter bullshit. It's actually despicable because what you're doing is

(06:18):
again this is so common in the conspiracy world under
the guides who trying to find answers for people whose parents,
loved ones, whatever have died. What you're actually doing is
you're exploiting those people, exploiting the deaths of those loved
ones to give you a platform so that you can
play hero when you neither know that you are lying

(06:41):
and don't care or are too stupid to be allowed
to continue. And it's just despicable shit. And a lot
of people disguise it as I'm a good person. Look
at me. I'm like an activist. I'm doing stuff. You're not.
You're doing it to benefit yourself, to feed into your
own ego, to feed into this identity that you have

(07:04):
about yourself, and you're exploiting the most vulnerable people. And
there must be a degree of knowledge about that. The
cognitive dissonance can't be there and certainly not in all cases.
And you know your shit human beings anyway, Speaking of
shit human beings, Mohammad Adel was actually struck off and

(07:26):
this was the High Court judgment. The second group of
allegations concerned matters that took place when mister Adill worked
at the North Manchester Hospital NHS Trust. These allegations did
not concern treatment given to any patient, but rather Miss
Adele's appearance in video is published on YouTube between April
twenty twenty and October twenty twenty. The allegations were set

(07:46):
out as follows in what has been referred to before
me as the chargesheet which the Tribunal set out in
the full body of its determination on the facts. Between
April twenty twenty and October twenty twenty, you appeared in
videos that were uploaded to the video showing platforms in
which you said that a the SARS colv two virus
and or COVID nineteen disease do not exist, or words

(08:07):
to that effect. Approved Judgment ad All versus the GMC
B the COVID nineteen pandemic is a conspiracy brought by
the UK, United Kingdom, Israel and America, or words of
that effect, and c The COVID nineteen pandemic is a
multi billion scam which has been manipulated for the benefit
of Bill Gates pharmaceutical companies, the John Hopkins Medical Institute

(08:32):
of Massachusetts, the World Health Organization, or words to that effect,
and d the COVID pandemic was being used to impose
a new world order, or words to that effect. That
the SARS car virus was made as part of a
wider global conspiracy, or words to that effect. The Bill
Gates infected the entire world with SARS carve two in

(08:53):
order to sell vaccines. Vaccines would be given to everyone
by force if next necessary, which could put potentially contain
microchips that affect the human body. And further the five
G mobile phone technology, and this will transform human psychology
and beliefs and could be used to control and or
reduce the world's population, or words to that effect. Three.

(09:15):
In the videos referred to in paragraph two, you use
your position as adoptri in the UK on one or
more occasions to promote your opinion. Your actions are referred
to a paragraph too, undermined public health, were contrary to
widely accepted medical opinion, or undermine public confidence in the
medical profession. In May twenty twenty, you said to your

(09:38):
responsible officer, Professor B, that you had or would remove
the videos referred to a paragraph two from video sharing platforms,
or words to that effect. Further to the discussions, you
failed to remove the videos you appeared in further videos
which were uploaded to various different video sharing platforms in
which you made comments similar or the same to those

(09:59):
referred to in paragraph too. So this is the person
that she's responding to and using the appeal to authority
of the fact that he was a doctor who Heed
now is not a doctor, and this was reported as
well in the BBC News. Mister Adel used his position
as a doctrin in the UK to promote his opinion,
and his actions undermined public health and public confidence in

(10:22):
the medical profession and were contrary to widely accepted medical
opinion at the time. A tribunal in Jene twenty twenty
two suspended the surgeon for his online comments to give
him the time to reflect on its findings, especially that
he lacked the adequate understanding and appreciation of the impact
of his actions. However, five months later he tweeted, COVID
is only a flu virus. It has not killed people.

(10:45):
People have been killed by lockdowns, fear created of dying,
heart attacks, cancers, lung diseases, strokes, lack of medical facilities, dehydration,
isolation and depression due to financial hardship. Tin you, not
a single trial has proved has proved efficacy of m
RNA vaccines to be safe and effective. I knew this

(11:06):
hoax before anyone else would have known it, and widely
expressed my concerns widely across the world wouldn't liked by
it wouldn't be liked by the establishment of being smarter
and more visionary than them, unleashing their plans before time.
So yeah, not a great uh copywriter, he said of
the m RNA vaccine. It neither stopped transmission of the virus,

(11:28):
treatment or prophylaxis, as a fast scientific evidence proved. Rather,
injuris and death are attributed to toxic deathity, to my chiaditis, strokes, paralysis,
and arrhythmias and deaths. Do you think that the coravionist scam,
a lucrative business of the m r NA vaccine around
the world, population would be buried by the big lies

(11:49):
of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and scientists a
sage would be awarded to knighthood award like the one
awarded to war criminal Tonny Blair. He's misspelt Tony. Never
mind anyway. The longer short is that none of that
is true, not even close to be true. In fact,
the opposite of everything that he said is true. But anyway,

(12:12):
we remember I was.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Thinking one thing about when he stumbled, COVID is nothing
more than just another flu virus and hadn't killed anyone
this is what he said, right and will but the
flu people.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yes, quite there is that flora and also basically his
contradicts his position that the virus didn't exist. But you know,
like again the exactly no one, like absolutely no one.
So we remember that he was referring to page fifty
four of this report. Let me just find out again

(12:52):
what the name of this particular report was about how
taking all the organs has been incentive advised. It was
the twenty eleven Palliative Care Funding Review, also known as
the Landsley Report, and Kate says, page fifty four, go
and have a look at it. So you know, I

(13:13):
went and had a look at page fifty four and
it doesn't can you believe appear to say anything like
what she says. This is the entirety of page fifty four.
Patients with terminal illnesses need to feel that they are
achieving the most from their lives. These rehabilitation therapists fought
them to do this. It is an essential part of
the funding social care. Stakeholders felt that social care plays

(13:36):
a fundamental role in ensuring that patients can be cared
for and die in the community setting, be it at
their own homes, or in care or nursing homes. Timely
effective social care is likely to provide cost savings to
the system, as it will enable patients to be discharged
more quickly from hospital, ensure that they are able to
remain in their home, and prevent unnecessary admissions to hospital
and or care homes. The emphasis on increased care in

(13:59):
the community must make this a priority, and there needs
to be an incentive to discourage inpatient admissions and encourage
discharges if affordable. This should be a priority for providing
an acceptable level of quality of life at the end
of a patient's life. Care based on a needs assessment
should be available quickly and without a requirement for means
testing or a continuing care assessment. If a patient is dying,

(14:23):
meeting their needs should be the primary concern. Cares are
vital and caring for people approaching the end of life
and should be supported and should be supported to provide
high quality palliative care and to enable patients to die. There. Now,
did you spot how there wasn't a single mention of.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Organs I was waiting for one.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Well, this is the point. So either she's she's got
the wrong page or yet again, she's relied on people
not going and checking what she said, and she's misrepresented it.
At best, she's misrepresented it. At worse, she's lied. And
this is beginning to be a pattern because she did
this about heart movements, she did this about spinal movements.

(15:08):
She seems to have done this about absolutely everything that
she brings forward. So we're now on to July the
twenty ninth. In more details are sort of trickling out
from the inquest. The Daily Mail reports under a headline
Cambridge graduate twenty three was having five coffee enemas a

(15:28):
day under her anti vaxed mother's care after refusing chemotherapy
for cancer. In quest told a University of Cambridge graduate
who died after refusing chemotherapy was having five coffee enemas
a day under her mother's care. Her brother has claimed
dr Ajaz spent seven sessions with piloma on the on

(15:48):
the recommendation of her mother, Miss Schremrani, with whom he
had a professional relationship. The inquest heard the doctor had
appeared on Miss Schremranni's podcast as a medical expert three
times and she had referred multiple patients to him previously.
Dr Ajaz provided an assessment of Paloma during High Court proceedings,
which read, I have no concerns that miss Fremrani has

(16:10):
been coerced or unduly influenced by any individual when making
a decision about her own medical treatment, although one could
make the argument that, well, yes, but you're a friend
of Kate Tremorani, so who can say anyway. Mister Frrani
asserted that Dr a. Jazz's session with his sister were
colored by my mother's control, which doctor Ajaz said was speculation.

(16:32):
Doctor Ajaz added that it was not his job to
comment on the efficacy of her devised treatment program. My
sister was having coffee enemies daily. Would it worry you
now if she had told you that, asked mister Tremerani.
I don't know anything about coffee nimas said Dr Ajaz.
The inquest heard that Poloma's cancer treatment revolved largely around

(16:53):
a strict diet of lots and lots of green juices,
and she was to have five coffee enemies every day.
Do you think that my mum might have been scaring
Paloma and making her think that she was the only
one who could save her, asked mister Shremeranni. I don't know.
You could speculate for sure, said doctor Ajaz. Miss k Shremerani,

(17:14):
who attended the inquest fire video link, was warned that
her conduct was unacceptable as she ranged signs, whiles on
mute and tried to introduce new allegations. During her questioning
of doctor Ajaz, the coroner said, Miss trem Ranni, your
behavior is becoming unacceptable again. You cannot sit in a
courtroom and put up signs in front of the camera.

(17:35):
It's bordering on contempt, Miss s Sheremranni, it is bordering
on contempt of court. And the London Standard released a
story graduate who died after refusing chemo told the court
that she was anti vax. A University of Cambridge graduate
who died after refusing chemotherapy told a court that she

(17:56):
was anti vax and always turned to her mother first
for health advice and in quest has heard so just
to clarify, this is Paloma saying that the anti vax
ideology is her own thought. Now, whether she's been influenced
by her mother, of course she must have been influenced
by her mother, but she still takes that as her

(18:17):
own belief. This is something that she believes in the
same way. I suppose that if somebody grew up in
a Christian family but said that they you know, I
still am faithful or whatever, that would be a sort
of similar comparison. Another statement in Poloma's name added, my
friends know me as the staunch advocate of gerson therapy

(18:38):
and also that she is anti vax. She said that
she'd been using gerson therapy as one mode of treatment
on the advice of her mother's ex fiancee, Dr Patrick Villas,
and that at fifteen years old, she spent three weeks
in his camp in Mexico, where gerson therapy was practiced.
Miss trem Rani cross examined Dr Amitt goul, a consultant

(19:01):
histopathologist at Maidston Hospital who carried out a biopsy. She
repeatedly put it to him that insufficient tissue was taken
to carry out a phish test that could rule out
other diseases and alter Poloma's treatment plan, but the doctor
denied that this would have influenced Poloma's care. Multiple times,
and the coroner told Miss schrem Ranni, the inquest is

(19:21):
trying to look at how Paloma came about her death,
but you are apparently trying to get information which is incorrect,
factually incorrect in the statements that you are making. I
think your questions are just designed to take up time
and delay matters by the way you're asking them repeatedly,
the coroner added. At the opening of the hearing, Miss
schrem Ranney made an application for a lawyer to recuse herself.

(19:45):
The coroner rejected the application and said she and said
had seen the hundreds of emails that have been sent
in and that you have requested that everybody recused themselves
at various times, including the coroner herself. So just to
sort of pass a bit of that out, Kay is
repeatedly telling her the followers that there wasn't sufficient tissue

(20:07):
taken from the biopsy. She also says that the histology
the blood work was never done, which will come on
to you later. But this is the doctor that did
the biopsy turning around and saying, no, that's not true,
and no, it wouldn't have altered. What she's saying is
that if you'd have looked for something, you'd have found
out what the true cause of this was, and so

(20:27):
you'd have treated it differently. And the doctor said, well, no,
that's absolutely not the case. We knew exactly what was
that was the problem, and we were treating that. And
then it's fairly obvious that Kay is trying to sort
of muddy the waters by getting this idea into the
court case. But it's just not true. The hundreds of

(20:48):
emails refers to apparently a two hundred page document that
Kay provided to the court which apparently bolstered her case
that the NHS had murdered her daughter. This evidence was
looked through and deemed to be irrelevant, completely irrelevant, because
it just didn't hang together. It just simply didn't tie together.

(21:09):
The bi Sister Advertiser went with a story. Brother of
a woman who refused chemotherapy says mother sacrificed her daughter.
The brother of a woman who died after refusing chemotherapy
told an inquest his conspiracy theorist mother sacrificed to his
sister for her own principles by advising her not to
seek treatment. Coloma's twin brother, Gabriel Chemerani, told the Interest

(21:31):
that Kate and Medway Coroner's Court in Maidstone, I blame
my mother entirely for my sister's death by obstructing his
sister from receiving treatment. In short, I believe that she
sacrificed Paloma's life for her own principles. I believe that
she should be held accountable for Paloma's death. Mister Ferrami's
parents split in twenty fourteen after a relationship which had

(21:52):
involved domestic abuse both ways. He told the court. He
alleged that he and his siblings felt unsafe around their
mother and that she she had been emotionally distant and
physically abusive to both of them as children. He further
alleged during his evidence that his father, doctor Farima Shermranni,
was also physically abusive to him and his brother. At

(22:13):
the time of Paloma's cancer diagnosis in Earlton twenty twenty three,
she was estranged from her mother, who then advised her
against conventional medicine. The court heard, in my opinion, kay
shrem Ranni directed her resentment that she held towards my
other siblings and I towards Paloma. Mister Sheremeranni said Paloma
had a complicated relationship with her mother. Maybe it's because

(22:35):
she had a complicated relationship that she decided to rekindle
that relationship when she became ill. He claimed that when
Palem was first diagnosed, she was considering chemotherapy before their
parents started to pressure her against it. Her father sent
a message to his daughter saying, don't consent to anything
from the doctors. They will try and kill you. And

(22:57):
that miss Schremeranni had said, I detexted. I am the
only one that can help you. Don't bite the hand
that feeds. There was no disagreement from her that this
was cancer. She never expressed to me that she never
and she never expressed it to the doctors either, said
mister tremerandei as Gabriel. My sister didn't die from stress

(23:18):
from the court case, which is what Caye has claimed. Also,
she's claimed that she was murdered. Also, she claimed that
she choked on food. It's not entirely clear. My sister
died from cancer, and I think that's clear, said mister
Tremoranhi before the High Court case. Mister Tromonanney also referred
to a situation to social services, but he felt that
they were slow moving, the court heard. He added that

(23:40):
his younger sister had been taken away from their mother
when she was sixteen, and the case was only driven
by my love and concern for my twin sister. Doctor
Tremranney had claimed that his son was irrational and an
unreliable witness, and that his actions had been a major
contributing factor to her death. This is not a public
forum to air grievance. As the coroner, Catherine Wood said,

(24:02):
I don't have any agreements. I don't have any Doctor
Tremerni said, it sounds like it, Gabriel responded. When his
questions concluded, Dtor Sheremroniy said, finally, may Our Lord Almighty
exercise you from the demons that possess you.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
On Wednesday afternoon, mister Shermronie told the call that his
sister was terrified of cancer but used gallad as humor
as a defense mechanism. Are you a psychologist? Gabriel? His
mother asked him during the court appearance, to which he responded,
are you a nurse? Don de Marco? Anyway? Just a

(24:38):
few things there. So it wasn't just Kay that contacted
Polona in the hospital. It was also her father, who
has said no bones about it. Don't listen to the doctors.
The alhs is trying to kill you. And then the
mother implicitly said, explicitly said sorry, I'm the only one

(25:00):
that can help you. Like, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
That's a bit that's a bit much, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Like, Wow, it's horrific. And then during the actual court
case for the for the father, doctor trem Rindy to
try and blame it on Gabriel and still continue with this,
Oh it's the stress of the ongoing court case. But
then to do the whole you know, the quasimodio, don't
they like, Oh, these demons inside you made Lord God terrible.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, I'm just going to put a pin in that.
I'm the only one who can help you. Let's put
a pin in that, because I think that's going to
come up. Yeah, very important later.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, I suspect that will be Like anyway, the ITV
news Meridian, they went with osteopath treating woman who refused
chemo advised medical help in quest heres and so you
remember that that cad said that Paloma was in sort
of rude health. She was doing really well, looked exactly

(26:04):
the same, despite being hugely, hugely underweight. She showed that
photo which I think has got a very swollen face
in comparison to previous pictures. I was shocked when she
showed that picture. I thought, that's now that you can
clearly see there's been a change of some sort. But

(26:27):
she said that she went sharp in she went to
an arsteopath and everything was like honky dory. The honesteopath
remembers this differently, and this was reported, as I say,
in the ITV news Meridian and asteopath he treated a
young woman who refused cancer treatment, knew he was not
the right person to be helping her and was horrified
to hear of her death and in quest on Wednesday.

(26:48):
Asteopath Nick Garsa, who saw Paloma on July the nineteenth,
twenty twenty four, the day that she collapsed, was taken
to hospital by air ambulance, advised her to seek further
medical support. The inquest a Kent of Medwin Court in
Maidstone Herd. He said that when he inspected her he
could feel lumps in her right shoulder going all the
way up into her neck, which he identified as lymphoid mass,

(27:11):
and that he had and I quote, never seen anything
like it in forty three years of practice. Mister Gossip
told the court it was obvious to me that I
was not the right person to be helping her. Normally
you see a patient like that, you would refer her
to a GP, but any referral was refused. When I
suggested that the proper avenue of approach was through a

(27:32):
normal medical channel, she dismissed it. I felt I was
presented with a young woman, and I'm not an expert
in this. My field is biomechanics, but a young lady
who was in the last stages of a very difficult disease,
and she had declined to engage with conventional treatment, and
he felt He added that he'd felt aggrieved they had

(27:53):
been put in that professional position. I was left with
no good choices, and the only choice I felt I
had at the time was to offer her the opportunity
to return where I might be able to persuade her
of the importance of seeking further medical support. So he
decided he wants to try and convince it to go
to a hospital or a GP because he can physically

(28:14):
see and feel a mass, which is the tumor from
the non Hodgkins lymphoma, sticking out of her chest, neck
and shoulders. He could physically see and feel it. When
he was asked about how he felt. He was told
of how he felt when he was told of Paloma's death,
he said, I was horrified, before clarifying that he was

(28:36):
surprised by the rapidity, but not by her death. I
was well aware that she was extremely ill. I did
not feel that she needed immediate medical support. Yesterday, Paloma's
GP told the court that conditions were in place that
if Paloma felt any change in her condition, including shortness
of breath, she would seek conventional medical attention. Mister Gossip

(28:58):
told the coroner that mister m Ron was exhibiting those
symptoms on the day he saw her. He said, may
I observe that in the evidence of the GP yesterday
that there was a clear understanding made that should Pleama's
situation deteriorate, and that included any shortness of breath, that
there would be an immediate response to the call of
the emergency services or present to A and E. And
he added that she came to me with such a

(29:19):
changing situation. I have to say that I'm deeply agreed
that you should put me in that professional position, and
that is that is again the osteopath who who cleared it.
So it appears that the GP that we've been talking
about is doctor disease. Now There is a contradiction in
there as well, because it's like, why is he suggesting
that she would, like, you know, she's got trouble breathing

(29:40):
or anything like that. I thought she was getting better,
and I also thought that she didn't have cancer, which again,
so why are you doing gerson therapy and hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
It's it's very confused. This now doctor disease. Doctor disease
has got a website, and there's an article on doctor

(30:03):
Disease's website called the Evolution of Psychiatry is here. So
I'm just going to read you this. This is the
person that case Tremorani recommends conventional psychiatry is languishing in
the dark age of relying on decades old drugs and
indescript psychotherapists. In the meantime, science has made major leaps

(30:25):
to recognize the importance of the goot brain access, non
invasive therapies, and neurotechnology to defeat mental illness. Poor brain
health underpins every mental illness, including depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, ADHD,
addiction PTSD, schizophrenia, OCD, and dementia. Improving your brain health

(30:47):
is the key to defeating your mental health problems for good.
This approach empowers you to take control of your health
and life. I'm committed to helping you reach your best
health by identifying the unique and underlying root causes of
mental health problems. Conventional medicine often focuses on naming diseases
and using a pill for every diagnosis. I take a

(31:07):
different approach. Functional medicine views the body as one integrated
system and the treatment is therefore holistic, not just the
symptoms alone.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
I was so hoping it was going to be something
to do with racons.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Well, I mean it might as fucking well be Like,
what they're talking about is this is wu shit, this
is this is holistic. Your gut drives your mental health.
The language used there is appalling. We will help you
defeat your mental health problems.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
And to look as though disease it is dis ease.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, it's all that shit like it. It is totally
that that that we can give you regimes that will
treat this. Let us have a look at some of
the things that he thinks can be treated by by
improving essentially your gut brain access, which usually involves eating
lots of yogurt. So what can be cook cured by

(32:08):
eating lots of yogurt. Depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder ADHD, PTSD, schizophrenia, dementia.
I'm not convinced. I'll be honest, It sounds like a
lot of wou shit to me, basically because it is

(32:32):
so anyway. The inquest is ongoing and will Cole Shawl
from gb Resistance is outside the hearing again trying to
make it all about him. Ladies and gentlemen. I've just
come back from the Paloma Schremeranni in quest, where obviously
the BBC have tried to pin her daughter's death on her,
or at least framed it in that fashion. There has
been a lot coming out there. There are some huge bombshells.

(32:55):
We'll see statements read out in court, but there will
be big reports of interviews coming out where I'll be
laying all this out. But I wanted to highlight something
very interesting that happened today. One first thing that was
dealt within court was allegedly I was filming in the
press room while sat right at the front of the
camera all day yesterday. So apparently somehow I was filming

(33:15):
in this press room whilst there was a mainstream media
and BBC and everyone else. And it's quite funny because
you're not allowed to film in court. I've been reporting
on court cases for about four and a half years
now and never filmed or published anything from court. Nothing's
been published online, which is very interesting because if I
were to be banned from the court, but then the
entire alternative media present would be gone. So I believe

(33:38):
that this is a malicious allegation which has been made
in order to try and barm me from covering this case,
being as I'm literally the only person here covering it
who's not for the mainstream so far as I know.
In other news, when I walked into court this morning,
Gabril Schremerani was giving me such a death stare. On
the first day, he turned around and he beamed at me.

(34:00):
He absolutely beamed at me. Much more to come. So,
you know, let's let's again unpack that for a bit.
Will Coleshaw blatantly got caught, tried to film something in
caught on his phone, didn't he, And so he does
a very very sort of I never did that. I've
never done that. In fact, like in fact, I can
prove that I've never done that, because you'll never find

(34:20):
any legally filmed stuff that I've done on the Internet,
and then winds that he's not being treated in the
same regard as the British Broadcasting Corporation. Then he goes
on with these delusions of grandeur by saying that he's
the only the one light of truth, the one last
bastion of honesty, the only representative of the alternative media

(34:44):
that's bothered to cover the case, which I'm not sure
if that's true or not, but it really doesn't matter
because he is to use a word shit, so it
really doesn't matter anyway. Kate is panicking on Twitter. She
tweet so I just read a report. Well, actually, you
can tell that she's panicking, so I'm going to read

(35:05):
that exactly what she's tweeted before you do.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
I also want to point out the very last bit
that he said there is to try and make like
the boys look menacing mm hm, you know, when like
their anger is valid. Absolutely understand why any of them
would want to punch the ship out of someone who
was backing their mother. Their their emotions, they're they're what

(35:30):
they've gone through, their experience, the fact that their sister
has been killed by this cult, Like belief system that
they escaped.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Absolutely not Yeah, it's horrific, isn't it. And not only that,
but this is the very real point that will call Shaw.
You're not doing this for their truth. You're doing this
because you think you can get something off the back
of this.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
You're getting yes clicks, the boys aren't. You're doing this
for justice. They're doing this for their sister.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Like yeah, it just it.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Is back step the fuck back and go away, because
this is real people ship right now, like in your
stupid fucking clicks on Twitter, on rumble, on whatever the
fuck you're on, fuck off.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
This is the point, is something real, But they've turned
it into one of these like you know, again this
hero's journey, look at us even k yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Even doing it. It's disgusting.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Well, it's you know, to an extent, there must be
a degree of how else would you cope the mental
gymnastics required in this. You're either the villain or the hero,
and you know so, so they've chosen the hero. But
it seems it seems that she's she's panicking because I'll
read out exactly what she tweets. I just read a

(36:56):
port a report from the ITV either their report thoughts
or death, their shorthand was terrible, or they just could
not keep up. I tell everyone now to go back
to my daughter's statement. It is on Twitter, my feed,
it is on my thread at ITV. So I think

(37:16):
what she's trying to say, ironically is I think the
reporter's shorthand was terrible or they could not keep up.
But she's garbled it. But you know, well we'll skip
past the massive irony of that.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
It was so meta.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
So onund you like the thirty first? The ITV News
Meridian goes with the story mother of Sussex woman who
died after refusing chemo says her anti vaccine views are
not to blame. The mother of a young woman from
Buckfield he decided not to proceed with NHS Cancer Care
has told an inquest that she isn't to blame for
her daughter's death, but the health service is Kate Tremranni,

(37:59):
who has struck off as a new for promoting anti
vaccine views during the pandemic. So she did not influence
Paloma Sheremerani's decision to explore natural therapist, right, I mean
the two text messages alone proved that to be not
accurate Ploma twenty three, collapsed on July the nineteenth last year,
and was taken to Royal Sussex Hospital, where she died

(38:20):
five days later, having earlier declined treatment for non Hodgkins lymphoma.
Her mother, kate Ka Schremerani, who rose to prominence on
social media while sharing COVID nineteen conspiracy theories, said her
daughter deteriorated catastrophically when paramedics intervened. Miss Fremarani, who was
involved in Poloma's alternative treatment, called her friend before calling

(38:40):
an ambulance the day her daughter collapsed. The inquest at
Kent and Medway's Crrenter Court in Maidston heard on Wednesday.
Reading a prepared witness statement, she accused the inquest of
attempting to shift focus from the real cause of Poloma's death. Now,
I don't know if any if you have ever read
any Freud or Psycho or anything like that, but that's

(39:01):
quite telling anyway. It's called projection. Any attempt to place
responsibility on me is false. The people who need to
be answering are those who failed to confirm diagnosis, administered
drugs without her consent, which would have damaged her heart
on the day she collapsed. She had an a point
with an osteopath and Nick Gossipt, who described her on
Wednesday as a young lady who was at the very last,

(39:22):
the last stages of a very difficult disease. Today. Her
mother disagreed, saying on the morning of July the nineteenth
parliment was well. She looks healthy and good color. She
was smiling and laughing. She was not described yesterday. She
was not as described yesterday by the osteopath. Ploma collapsed
at home later that day and her mother called a friend,

(39:42):
who then called an ambulance. Whilst they initiated CPR. On
the nine to nine nine call played to the court,
Miss Tremrani was heard shouting she's dying to the operator
before the paramedics s arrived. Right, I mean there again,

(40:03):
that goes against what Kate has said, and he also
we've said this previously. Why did you call paramedics if
you didn't feel that there was necessary for paramedics to
be there, Why were you having to resuscitate your daughter? Anyway?
She told the ambulance operator, it's difficult to lie her

(40:25):
on a front because she has a medicinal mass in
her throat. The inquest heard, so we know that Kate
was acknowledging that there was something there in her evidence.
Miss Sheremaraney told the call that when the paramedics arrived,
they administered adrenaline then and everything went horribly wrong. Following
their intervention, her daughter went into full circulatory collapse. I

(40:47):
knew at this point that they'd done something, giving her
something that had caused this. Miss Sheremaranney added she deteriorated
catastrophically upon their arrival and their intervention. So August fifth,
Nursing Times goes with the story Woman's death sparks fresh

(41:08):
warning over misuse of nurse title. The article goes to
say the death of a woman who declined cancer treatment
allegedly on the advice of her mother, a conspiracy theorist
and former nurse, is proof of the need to legally
protect the title nurse. According to campaigners, Lema Chremeranni, who
had non Hodgkins lymphomer, died last July, age twenty three,

(41:29):
after suffering a heart attack which was understood to have
been caused by the tumor, and in questioning into her
death remains ongoing. Speaking to Nursing Times, finding the broadcast
of the BBC program that mister Sheremranni, who cut ties
with his mother nine years ago, has said she sees
herself as a conduit of truth and that her former
professional title, which he sometimes still uses, gives her a

(41:51):
false era of authority. Mister Schremeranni described the environment in
which he and his siblings grew up in as a cult.
He said that Paloma was not in the frame of
mind to make an unbiased decision about her cancer treatment. This,
he said, was because Paloma, unlike himself and another of
their siblings, continued to have a relationship with Misremrani and

(42:12):
be influenced by her. You cannot make an informed decision
to reject chemotherapy that has an eighty percent five year
survival rate over something that is untested and is basically
the same as doing nothing. The fact that Ploma made
this decision is evidence that she wasn't in a decision
making mindset. You cannot make an informed decision, for example,
to kill yourself in most circumstances. A twenty three year

(42:35):
old cannot make an informed decision to reject chemotherapy because
by definition, that's not informed. By definition, something is wrong.
The campaign to protect the title of nurse, led by
Professor Allison Lear and Paul Trevatz, found some success earlier
this year when the UK government announced it would be
reforming regulation to make it a criminal offense for a

(42:56):
person to call themselves a nurse without being on the
NMC register. However, the rules have not yet changed. As
a result, it remains legal for anyone to use the
title until the regulatory reform comes into effect. Mister Tremorandei
said that the sense of authority his mother's former title
providence makes it harder to reject the misinformation she gives.
The fact that she calls herself a nurse and once

(43:18):
called herself a nurse officially makes it harder to reject
the information because part of her selling point is that
she's been insider and now she's bringing the truth. The
mass majority of her followers are not healthcare professionals, so
they have to take what she says. And you see
this with a lot of these conspiracy theorists. We love
a contrarian, we love an underdog, and our media, in

(43:39):
our media and in our stories. Mister Tremorandi said that
falsely claiming to be a doctor on nurse without the
proper qualifications and regulatory oversight was inherently putting people's lives
at risk. And also, you know, various of the people
that we spoke about in this sad saga, Cartland and Adil,

(44:00):
they both used the title doctor despite the fact that
they were both struck off in disgrace because they're terrible,
dreadful people. August the eleventh, The BBC News said that
Kate Shremeranni arranged alternative cancer care for her daughter, a
high profile conspiracy theorist's daughter died from cancer after refusing chemotherapy,

(44:24):
organized her care when she left hospital, and inquest has
heard ploma Shemeranne, from Uckfield in East Sussex, died last year,
seven months after receiving a cancer diagnosis of non Hodgkins lymphoma.
On Monday, the inquest in to in Madston into Poloma's
death heard from her mother, Kate Shremeranni, a former nurse

(44:45):
who was struck off for spreading anti Venderson COVID nineteen misinformation.
Miss shem ROONNEI denies influencing her daughter's decision to refuse chemotherapy,
saying it doesn't matter what my view was, it was
what Poloma wanted to do. We must remember the she
tried to take power of attorney, So this is I

(45:07):
think disingenuous. The incast has played a voice note from
miss Fremrani to her daughter's boyfriend where she told him
to put Paloma in a wheelchair and take her down
to the car. The voice note was sent two or
three days after Palerma had been diagnosed with cancer at
Maidston Hospital. Mister Fremarani told him to listen to her
message in private and away from Paloma's ears, and that

(45:29):
he had to drive Paloma away very carefully without breaking sharply.
On Monday, she said that she would need the forensic
data before agreeing that the voice note heard by the
court was from her, But she added that whoever left
message gave fantastic advice. And this is the thing as well,
is like, this is cowardice, right, Either you believe in

(45:51):
the shit you are saying or you're trying to weasel
out of it. If you're trying to weasel out of it,
why you try trying to weasel out of it. It
doesn't make any sense. None of this hangs together. She
said that she had not wanted to ploma to hear
this message because she would have been frightened and that

(46:12):
she could have been injured if her boyfriend drove to fast.
When asked about her views on chemotherapy, mister m Rani said,
why is this about me and my opinions? Is it
a witch hunt? And the simple answer to that is
because this is an inquest to see if whether you
were responsible for your daughter's death, and you know this,
and the fact that you're sidestepping a hit rather than

(46:34):
just giving your views and chemotherapy which are apparently valid
and wouldn't matter anyway because it was never, according to her,
proved that Paloma had cancer, despite the fact that they
were doing an alternative cancer therapy. None of this makes
any sense. She told the court that she'd asked for

(46:57):
Paloma to have all the medical notes and results so
that she can have all the facts and get a
second opinion from doctors they knew in a random Mexico
that would be Patrick Vickers and her and Coloma's father.
Mischarmis said that she did not know if the records
were ever sent to another oncologist to humatologists for a
second opinion, because they were Ploma's records and though she

(47:18):
was twenty two an adult. So hang on, so you
don't even so we don't even know if your ex
husband and your business partner and former lover gave any advice.
You don't know if they gave any advice to your
daughter or if they received her medical notes. Okay. Alison Hewitt,

(47:42):
counsel at the inquest, asked Miss TREMERANEI is it the case?
It is the case. Isn't it that you have expressed
publicly views which are contrary to chemotherapy. You consider chemo
therapy as a dangerous and toxic process and one that
wouldn't advise some unsuffering cancer undergoes. Miss Tremorandi branded the
question slanderous and not true, adding in all my public appearances,
I say people should get all the information and then decide.

(48:06):
But when she was pushed on whether she had described
chemotherapy as mustard gas, she replied, this is not relevant.
You're making slanderous accusations. People should be able to choose,
and the reason is because she absolutely has referred to
chemotherapy is not effective, that it will kill you, and
that it was derived from mustard gas and is the
equivalent of taking mustard gas. Now it is true, actually

(48:32):
that chemotherapy was devised from mustard gas. But to say
that having chemotherapies like being blasted in the trenches of
the First World War is not even close to accurate.
Like it's it's ridiculous. That's like saying that penicillin is

(48:57):
equivalent to shoving your face in the mold of a
dying animal or a fungus, Like do you know what
I mean? Because it comes from fungus and molds and
spores and stuff like that. I mean, it's the equivalent
of saying that a cake is an egg. It's really
as silly as that, but it sounds scary. On August

(49:19):
the twelve, Sebastian Tremarani tweets what angers me most. She
says do your own research as a disclaimer when she
sells people lies that can kill them. That's not how
it works. You call yourself a nurse and get vulnerable
people to trust you. We know your tricks, you fucking monster.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yeah, I can't do your own research. Bit kind of Oh,
I'm just presenting the evidence, like that whole day of
at Ike thing. I'm just presenting the questions, which is
you go and find out what you think the truth
is now.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Fuck that take responsibility for actions. That's a coward coward's
way out and pathetic medie mouthed scumbags option. I'm gonna
ask all these questions to put this, and then if
anyone challenges me, I'm gonna say, well, I'm just asking questions,
or well I'm not an expert or something like that,

(50:15):
or you know, I'm just trying to get the truth
out there. I'm just trying to start a conversation. No
you're fucking not. Yeah, no, you're not not.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
They can say I said it before, I've said it before,
Go go check me out.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
It's just yeah, it's that's it's it's juvenile, it's it's
children's tactics. Basically, it's it's I knew I know you are,
but what am I. It's literally that type of shit,
and it's just again, the thing that gets me, that
should be a massive warning to all her fans followers,

(50:53):
is that she doesn't stick by her own internal principles,
the principles that she's set up to to designate herself
as truthful and honest and righteous, and on this path,
she won't even go Yes, that is what I believe.
This is what I believe and that is why I
did it. Like so, how can you trust this person?

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On the same day, LBC put to an article parents
who advised daughter against chemotherapy warned over in quest behavior.
The parents have cambrig graduate who refused chemotherapy after being
diagnosed with cancer, have been warned about their behavior in
court during an inquest into her death, and Cathy Wood,
presiding over the inquest, left the court due to the

(51:38):
behavior of Miss Shemrani's parents on Tuesday afternoon. The inquest,
which was originally scheduled to conclude on Wednesday, has been
extended as the evidence of questioning of witnesses has taken
longer than anticipated. This is because Kate kept shouting and
having to have a microphone turned off and then trying
to write on pieces of paper and show slows and

(52:01):
she's admonished by the court several times. Questioning broke down
when doctor Schremrani alsoy On Tuesday, Miss Sheremonney, who was
struck off as a nurse in twenty twenty one, was
cross examined by doctor Sheremaranniy, who's a formal husband. Questioning
broke down when doctor Tremanney is understood to have a
PhD in computational fluid dynamics, tried to ask his ex

(52:23):
wife's opinion of medical evidence, which he would then try
to answer despite warnings from the coroner. So it transpires
that Dtor Schremaranni, in his clinic in Iran, has got
a doctorate in computational fluid dynamics. So what his advice

(52:43):
on treating cancer would be is irrelevant, to be honest.
But it sounds like they're working together as a team,
so they're trying to get certain things introduced into the
case so that they can say this was brought up
in court and they had no answer to it, which
is again an obvious and shifty tactic. The coroner said,

(53:06):
Miss Sherem Roney, I have told you not to speak.
I'll find you in contempt if you keep on speaking,
can find yourselves to asking questions of this witness as
a witness of facts. As doctor Tremroney argued back through
his video link, the coroner said, Doctor TREMERANNEI challenged me
by judicial review later before trying to move on. Of
course I will, of course I will, he replied, that

(53:30):
would be interesting. Later, Doctor SHEREMRONEI once again tried to
ask questions which had already been ruled irrelevant by the coroner.
I'm going to rise for a few minutes because I'm
finding it incredibly difficult to keep you on track, said
miss Wood. Doctor Tremroney continued to speak until the coroner
was forced to shout at him and say, doctor Shremeranni, listen,

(53:51):
your behavior has been boarding on contemptuous to the court.
When I make a ruling on something, you cannot come back,
missus Schremerannie Kate had also accused the osteopath Nick Gosset
of being a liar and so that he lied under
oath and that he should be held accountable for this.
So both of them are acting shamefully, like in the

(54:14):
sort of way where normal human adults would be appalled
and just mortified by the fact that you're trying something
really really pathetic and obvious. Right, Okay, you could like
there's a way that they're not malicious, that they're absolutely stupid,

(54:35):
which is that they've watched say, court room dramas like
you know, a few good Men and stuff like that,
and they think that you can shout evidence into play
and everyone goes, ah, yeah, no, wicked like, this is caught.
This isn't a wrap battle, it's not how it works.

(54:56):
So and then then just having at the poor osteopath
who basically did absolutely nothing, she said his statement of
oath is completely opposed with the truth. And she argued
that Doughty was completely healthy on the day that she collapsed,

(55:16):
which even as the sentence doesn't make any sense. But
let's go on, excuse me on always the thirteenth, Gabriel
tweeted out just the case followers, your own natural nurse
said yesterday at the coroner's inquest that she couldn't confirm
whether the Gerson therapy cured cancer. This is despicable that

(55:41):
she'll market it to the vulnerable as a cure yet
will plead the fifth under oath. That is appalling that
when pressed she won't say it. Now, you could use
the argument of yeah, there's a legal say that you
can cure cancer. So she's just covered her back legally,
isn't She's like, well, okay, that's fine, but you're still

(56:03):
a coward. You still don't think that your views, which
apparently you think are true, are truthfully enough to stand
up for yourself. You don't have any principles. So that's
the one way that you could get out of this
by saying that basically, yeah, yeah, I'll say anything to
anyone at any given time to save my own skin.

(56:28):
The BBC on the same day printed an article saying,
mum kept interrupting paramedics saving daughter. That's a hell of
a headline. Mum kept interrupting paramedics saving daughter. Wow. The
mother of a woman who died after refusing chemo therapy
for cancer presented a challenge to paramedics trying to save

(56:52):
her daughter's life after she suffered a heart attack. The
inquest heard her mother, Kep Scharamarani poloma Is, talks about
polymonis as a mother of Kate Shamrani, a former nurse
who rose to prominence on social media, caused chemotherapy toxic
and dangerous. When Paloma collapsed at her mother's home. Paramedic
Robin Bass said that Kate presented a challenge and she

(57:14):
kept interrupting while crews were carrying out care. The paramedic
told the coroner that Kate had mentioned a mass on
her daughter's chest, but when mister Bass told Kaleige's colleagues
that it could be cancer, He said that Kate denied
that this was the case. Paloma's mother, who was struck

(57:35):
off as a nurse for promoting misinformation about the pandemic,
insisted that Paloma had choked on food, but the Rostersex
County Hospitals in Brighton determined that she'd died of suffered
a heart attack caused by a massive tumor. Doctor Peter Anderson,
who saw her when paramedics brought her into the hospital,

(57:58):
told the inquest that a large asked in her chest
and neck, which was compressing her airways and effective mate
and affecting major blood vessels, could have caused the cardiac arrest.
A safeguarding report was later requested over concerns about Poloma's
refusal of cancer treatment and the possible influence of her mother.
Mister Bass said, I believe we had to be firm,

(58:20):
quite firm at some points. We had to ask for
quiet while administering care to your sister. And this is
when he's been questioned by Gabriel. Ploma's brother. Gabriel asked
another paramedic who treated Poloma at the inquest if his
mum's delay in calling an ambulance affected her chance of survival.
It's difficult to say, said Karen Clark. Claren Clark a

(58:42):
critical care of paramedic. You always recommend calling someone calling
nine nine nine straight away. Gabriel asked missus Clark if
she would have called a friend first, but she replied
that she would have, of course, found an ambulance first.
On August forty, Sebastian Chrmani tweeks out a short takedown

(59:04):
of Will Coleshaw, and he tweets out, this is a
short takedown of Will Coleshaw, the loser that is supporting
the conspiracy theorist theory influencers who killed my sister. He
calls himself a journalist at his own company GB Resistance,
despite being barely literate unable to pronounce my surname. Will's

(59:25):
real name is Congo Ray Salomat. His father is from
the Dominican Republic and abandoned him and his mother. Will
grew up with his nan and apparently still lives off
of her. He changed his name to Sam more English.
Will's dadd Emmanuel, was deported from the UK twice, the
second time for being convicted and jailed for child sex offenses.

(59:48):
Yet you read that right, This darling of the so
called resistance literally has an immigrant rapist for a father.
What a punchline. I guess your parents are as bad
as my Will. Will's first real job was as a
Tory counselor, but he was kicked out shortly after starting
for racism. Desperate for cash, he then used covid to

(01:00:10):
grow his platform. All of this is online for people
to verify The Sun, The Guardian, the Enfield Observer, etc.
He's a talentless, uneducated, and broke. Will now claims he's
being framed for contempt of core in tough guy videos
like the one below. In reality, he can't look my
brother Gabriel in the eye during the proceedings. Admittedly, my

(01:00:33):
little bro is a healthy six foot eight and over
two hundred and ten pounds, so Will is making a
very good decision for once. I also have it on
good authority that Will absolutely stinks. I need everyone to
understand these losers don't care whether what they say is true.
They become conspiracy theory influencers to make money because they

(01:00:55):
have no other options. They are controversy merchants, shitstirrers, and frauds,
and they should be physically removed from civil society. Yeah, buck,
absolutely so. On August the fifteenth, Gabriel tweets out in

(01:01:16):
quest update Coroner's conclusion has provisionally been set for release
on the third of September watch this space. And on
August the nineteenth, Cape Sremerany tweets out Coroner Wood during
the most recent day of the cover up, oops, I
meant in quest at a giant cost to the Kent

(01:01:37):
taxpayer of our daughter Paloma, who lived, received treatment and
had her life terminated in Sussex by the state. In
her ending soliloquy something along the lines are the press
are there to protect the public? Hmmm. On August the
twenty seventh, the BBC releases more details from the inquest.

(01:02:03):
The title of the headline is ploma Chremeranni in quest
I saw her tumor growing in all directions. A pathologist
is said that the obvious cause of death for a
twenty three year old woman who refused chemotherapy was a
mass in her chest and neck so large that it
was visible externally. At an in question to her death

(01:02:26):
at kirk A Meadway cor in his court, Dr David
Wright said Paloma had a large mass as big as
seventeen centimeters or six point seven inches in her chest.
I looked at the tumor and you could see the
bulk of it growing in all directions. The tumor had
distorted and displaced veins and arteries and cars had caused

(01:02:50):
a major compromise of vessels and airways. Dr Wright added
it was growing into the ribs. It had replaced most
to the upper lobe of the right lung. The inquest
heard earlier that Paloma had died after suffering a heart attack,
which one doctor said could have been caused by the
large mask of pressing her airways and affecting major blood vessels.

(01:03:13):
As by Kate Tremrani, whether he had looked at alternative
causes of death, including potentially latent tuberculosis, Doctor Wright said,
this is a nonsensical question. It doesn't have any medical meaning.
This is just word association. The untreated lymphoma was the
obvious cause of death. If it had been tuberculosis, there

(01:03:35):
would have been other symptoms present. There were no other
symptoms present, So the pathologist this, this tumor was massive,
absolutely massive like that. That's horrific.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
It was just allowed to grow, Yeah, continued growing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Until it just got in the way and essentially caused
it choke, which caused her to have a heart attack.
Fuck it's horrific. It's absolutely horrific. The BBC went on
to say a high profile conspiracy theorist influenced her daughter
to reject chemotherapy in favor of alternative treatments, which ultimately
led to her death. A coroner has ruled Miss Sremranni

(01:04:20):
declined chemos Theremraphy and Femora of Duces and Coffee enemies
and advocated for by her mother, Kate Tremerani, a former nurse.
Coroner Kate Wood said that Kate said at the inquest
on Thursday, the influence that was brought to bear on
Paloma did contribute more than minimally to her death. The

(01:04:42):
kamist graduate and initially consented to treatment, the coroner said,
adding that doubts about consent surfaced only after Miss Schremranni
had become involved. The coroner said Miss Romnie was influenced
by our own beliefs, her mothers, her father's, and by
those of a family friend, all who advocated the altar
native treatment she used. I found Miss Schremeranei's care of

(01:05:04):
her daughter incomprehensible but not an unlawful killing. Miss Wood
said it seems that if Paloma had been supporting and
encourage to accept her diagnosis and considered chemotherapy with an
open mind, she probably would have followed that course. So
that we've got the more instances of coming out and

(01:05:27):
the coroner has said that k Tremerani's advice contributed more
than minimally to her own daughter's death, but that she
didn't feel that it crossed the threshold of an unlawful
killing because of the influence of several other people. We
will talk about this more, but the Independent says her

(01:05:51):
mother questioned medical staff to the extent to the extent
that the coroner found it highly likely that she seeded
some form of doubt in Paloma's mind as to her diagnosis.
Her father sends a message to his daughter saying, don't
consent to anything from the doctors. They will try and
kill you, and that miss Schremerani had said I am
the only one that can help you. Don't bite the

(01:06:11):
hand that feeds. In other messages, her father insisted that
she discharged herself and refused any medication and to urgently
confirm that she'd done so, with Paloma responding, this is
to her father who's advising her not to take medical
advice from the NHS because they will kill her. Jesus Christ,
you can both calm down. I get it. You're heckling me.

(01:06:36):
The Karna also criticized Kate and her ex husband's appalling
behavior in court said these utterly groundless assertations to the
cause of death and unfounded allegations of relation to the
steps taken by others in trying to treat their daughter
have been reprehensible. The inquest concluded that Paloma died of
hyperoxic is chemic brain injury as a result of cardiac

(01:06:59):
arret as a consequence of her non Hodgkins lymphoma. So
sorry to dwell on this, but the mass in her
chest caused her to not be able to breathe. When
she was unable to breathe, she went into a cardiac
arrest had a heart attack. She then was left unconscious
for such time that her brain was irreparably damaged. The

(01:07:23):
adrenaline that was given to her by the paramedics brought
her back to life, at which point she was put
on life support, But she wasn't put on life support
she and she she did have catastrophic brain damage, which
later led to her death, but this wasn't caused by

(01:07:44):
the adrenaline. This was probably caused by the lack of
oxygen to her brain for so long. The coroner said
that her parents, Kay and Paramas Chamorani more than minimally
contributed to her death. She said Kay Shamrani took a
leading role in advising Paloma in respect of and facilitating

(01:08:05):
access to alternative treatments. If approached with an open mind,
Paloma would have chosen the chance to survive, and if
she had undergone chemotherapy, she probably would have survived. So
I managed to get hold of the coroner's report, and
it's horrible. This is this is like a few weeks

(01:08:31):
prior to her death. On the first of July, I
remember she went. She collapsed on the nineteenth and ultimately
died on the twenty fourth. On the first of July,
Paloma reported that she was really struggling with getting food down.
She wrote, I have a massive lymph node or something

(01:08:51):
pressing on my throat, so the food keeps getting stuck.
It slows down meal times and can often put me
into a panic because I can't breathe. She was not
wanting to eat and deal with the trauma of meal
times because of the lump or node in her throat,
she struggled to breathe and this could bring on anxiety attacks.

(01:09:15):
While she was doing enemas, her energy levels were low
because she had not been sleeping well. Her weight was
forty kilograms and she had lost one and a half kilograms. Mentally,
she was at her wits end. The stress of the
ongoing court case, she said, had been terrible, and she

(01:09:35):
said she was having anxiety and panic attacks daily and
that they were very traumatic. She also said that she'd
suffered lots and lots of mucus while she breathed, which
was in her lungs and had worsened her breathing. And
she wrote that there's clear, milky white at this mucus

(01:09:56):
and it comes out whenever I cough, and she was
using a halloidal silver nebulizer to try and treat this.
Colloidal silver has been pitted as a cure for everything
from the common cold to cancer. All it really does
is turn your skin blue and poison you if you
use too much. She said that there was constant pain

(01:10:20):
on the mass site and the very swollen lived nodes
in her throat. That's the horrible that's horrible. This poor
girl is having panic attacks every time she tries to
eat because there's something so big in her throat that
it's choking her and making it difficult for her breathe,

(01:10:43):
to breathe. This is nineteen days before she collapsed. Kate
denied being aware of Paloma having any difficulties eating or breathing.
She was asked about a photo of Paloma on the
thirteenth of July which receiving oxygen fire and mask. Okay,

(01:11:03):
so on the thirteenth she can't breathe, but Kate says, oh, no,
it's nothing to do with that. You've misunderstood why we
use oxygen masks. This is not because of breathing difficulties.
This is something we both do. We receive pure oxygen
as a health kick. I don't believe her. She's lied
and mis represented absolutely everything that she presented, from from

(01:11:25):
the beginning of her career through to why she was
struck off, through to everything about COVID, through to everything
about augan retrieval. In July, Paloma texted her sister saying
that Kate was saying she's telling me my bloods aren't
good and that at this rate, I'll die now. Something

(01:11:49):
very interesting came out in the in the in question
as well. On the day that she collapsed, Paloma collapsed
just after her hand man had left the house at
approximately five thirty. Kate phoned her friend, Katrine Leonette. Do

(01:12:11):
you know what times? She found her friend six o'clock.
She waited thirty minutes before phoning her friend after Palerma
had collapsed, according to Kate, because she thought she was
choking on food. Now when her friend arrived, she made

(01:12:38):
a phone call four minutes after arriving. So a nine
nine to nine call made by Miss Lionette is recorded
on ambulance documentation as starting at eighteen oh four hours.
A recording of the call was played. Miss Leonette speaks
to the call handle initially, but Miss Tremerani immediately calls
out to say that Coloma's breathing was laboring and that

(01:13:00):
she had a media steenal mass pressing on her airway,
so she's acknowledged that it's not choking on food. She
then says that she's stopped breathing, and she can be
heard calling Paloma's name over and over again. Miss Sheremarani
then stated to the call handle that she could not

(01:13:21):
lie Paloma on her back because of the mass putting
pressure on her airway. Miss Sheremaranni can then be heard
saying a prayer, but then saying that she's performing cardiopulmonary's
assassination with oxygen being delivered through a guided a guidal
airway in place. So she's pumping on Paloma's chest because

(01:13:41):
she can't breathe, and she's essentially dead. For about four
minutes forty five seconds into the call, Miss Remorandi Rannie
is told the ety of the ambulance of twenty minutes
and she calls out, oh, come on, she's dying. She's dying.
Miss Lennet says, please, please, you need to understand this

(01:14:03):
is more than critical, which, aside from anything else, means
that Kate has lied about the paramedics.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
It's quite interesting as well. Like, so she waits half
an hour before she phones her friend. A minute her
friend turns up. Her friend's like, no, call the fucking ambulance.
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Absolutely, And then she's screaming down the phone saying she's dying. Yeah, yeah,
now you know you could make the argument that she's panicing.
I don't think any of this is malicious, like well
it is. You could make the argument that she's in panic.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
You could make the argument that she's administering CPR, or
she's trying to do her own thing or whatever. But
there is there is a lot of room there for criticism,
a lot of room. And also it shows that she's lying.
She's lying about she knows she's not choking on food,
she knows there's some sort of a mass there and
she also this means that she must be lying about

(01:15:01):
the paramedics. Robin Bassi, you remember, as one of the paramedics, said,
gave it oral evidence to explain that he's employed by
the South East Coast Ambulance Service as a paramedic an
operational team leader. On the nineteenth of July, he was
first on scene arrhyving at about eighteen twenty two when
he found Paloma on the floor of her bedroom and

(01:15:23):
saw that mischrem Ronnie was carrying out cardiopulman ru resuscitation appropriately.
The fact that this was being performed and the fact
that Paloma was not responding with a gag reflex to
the present of an auroparangial airway, which had already been placed,
was consistent with Paloma being in cardiac arrest. Ms Bass

(01:15:44):
said that he has sessed Paloma himself and found that
she was definitely in cardiac arrest, which is why, which
is why they administered adrenaline, because she was dead. Kate
told the paramedic the ploma she said reported the poloma
be diagnosed with a medictinal mass for which she was

(01:16:05):
not receiving active treatment, but alternative treatment was being used.
When asked, she said, this might be non Hodgkin's lymphoma,
or it might be an infection, but poloma did not
have a formal diagnosis, which raises several questions. One, it
shows that Kate has acknowledged the fact that there could

(01:16:26):
be non Hodgkin's lymphoma tumor there, which obviously was the case.
And two that poloma did not receive a formal diagnosis.
So what the what were those other clinics in Mexico
and Iran? Doing? Why is that? How are they even
beginning to treat paloma if there's not a in inverted

(01:16:52):
comma's formal diagnosis. Ah, except here's the problem. She did
have a formal diagnosis. She had a formal diagnosis from
the NHS. Now, okay, we'll say, oh, she only had
a differential diagnosis. The histology was never properly done. We

(01:17:15):
shall come onto that. She then said that she was choking,
potentially on food. The paramedic said that he the tumor
was so forcefully blocking Paloma's throat that he struggled to
get his airway into her her throat, which is again

(01:17:36):
just horrible. So this is taken directly from the coroner's report.
Dr Anderson said that his best hypothesis as the cause
of carliacures was that Paloma had been unable to breathe
through what was by then her very narrow airway, so
that on the twenty fourth of July, the ventilator, this

(01:17:57):
is when she's in the hospital on the life support,
the ventilator had not been able to deliver oxygen, and
when he'd tried to ventilate by manual bag, he was
extremely tight, with no air reaching the upper lobe of
right lung. So the term had continued to grow to
the point where it had almost completely blocked off her airway,

(01:18:19):
and even mechanical ventilation was not able to get air
into her lungs. Dr Anderson told me that prior to
her death, spoken to doctor miss Schremrani and had been
clear about Poloma's poor prognosis. He said that Miss Shremrani,
that's Kay indicated that she was seeking expert advice from

(01:18:41):
the United States, but he had explained that the hospital
was working in accordance with UK guidelines and law. He
could not recall any concerns being raised about the management
by the Ambulance Service or HEMS on the nineteenth of
July twenty twenty four, which means that Kay didn't start
her nonsense about the paramede killing Paloma until after, possibly

(01:19:06):
after she died, she'd reconned it. It'd be interesting to
find out the first day that she'd said implied that
the paramedics had killed her daughter, just to clarify. They
didn't mention it to either the paramedics or the hospital,
which they then trusted to keep Paloma on life support

(01:19:29):
for six days. You would have thought that either they
would have taken her to a different hospital or would
have raised concerns that you know, your staff are murdering people,
but that didn't happen. This is important. Doctor Annis was
asked whether the administration of adrenaline could have caused or
contributed to her condition and death, and he said categorically

(01:19:52):
that it had not. Paloma had received the standard adult
dose of adrenaline in accordance with the national protocol, and
that on the nine on the nine to nine to
nine calls which he had heard, Miss Schremrani had indicated
that Paloma's oxygen saturations had at ten or fifteen minutes
into the arrest been thirty five percent, which he said

(01:20:13):
was critically low and risked brain damage. So she's been
sad denied oxygen for a long time. That's ten or
fifteen minutes into the arrest. The ambulance didn't arrive for
another five ten minutes, depending on whether it's ten or
fifteen minutes. It took twenty two minutes to get there,

(01:20:37):
So this is horrible, but it would appear that basically
the conditions had been there that had the adrenaline been
administered or not, the same outcome would have happened, which
is tragic, but the adrenaline was literally her only hope
and it did bring her back to life. Sadly, by
that time, the damage due to the lack of oxygen

(01:21:02):
was far too great. Missus Schremroani asked whether the adrenaline,
which had been administered by the emergency teams could have
caused an hitrogenic collapse, and doctor Anderson said that Paloma
collapsed long before the paramedics lie arrived, so the collapse
could not be attributed to the adrenaline. He admitted that

(01:21:24):
the medication could be associated with the pulmonary edema, which
is one of the things that Kate says is how
they kill you with adrenaline, But in this case that
definitely didn't happen because there was no edema found, so
it couldn't have been that. So the mechanism by which
Kay is saying that the adrenaline killed her daughter couldn't

(01:21:46):
have happened. Also, it is clear by Kay's own words
and own medical recordings that Paloma was a in cardiac
arrest and b had sadly had her oxygen blocked off
for sufficient time to cause irreparable brain damage. In response

(01:22:08):
to questions from Gabriel Schremurahi, Dr Anderson said that the
brain injury suffered by Poloma meant that she had already
had no chance of recovery even before she'd reached hospital.
He was asked whether her prospects would have been better
if missus Schremroandi had called for an ambulance immediately immediately,
and the witness said that when someone's heart stops, the
sooner you get it going again, the better the outcome
is likely to be. Brain damage is detectable after about

(01:22:31):
three minutes without oxygen, and for every further minute the
level of damage is worse without resuscitation. The required response
is therefore, to call an ambulance to start resuscitation immediately. However,
he was not able to comment on the impact of
the delay. I mean it.

Speaker 4 (01:22:49):
Took thirty minutes to ring the friend.

Speaker 3 (01:22:52):
Yeah, there's a big you know, yeah, I know, it's
increasingly well. It's impossible that the paramedics murdered her, or
even that their actions contributed to her death. They didn't.
They were a last gasp attempts to try and save

(01:23:15):
a very, very poorly person that had not had any treatment.
So these are the conclusions, except fully the evidence given
by doctor Gulls, mohann and O'Connor that there is no
doubt that the mass was a non Hodgkins lymphoma and
that any further testing to find a subtype would have

(01:23:35):
made no difference to the course of treatment offered. The
subtype would have only made a difference to second line treatment.
Now put pinion that, because we'll come back to that,
what that implies some people might be listening to that
and going see they didn't do any other testing. It
was still a differential diagnosis. Will come on to that.

(01:23:55):
Miss Misch Andmriani tried in correspondence and in questioning of
all clinical staff involved to explore alternative conditions and has
referred to there being only a differential diagnosis. And I
find it it's highly likely that she seed has some
fun of doubt in Poloma's mind as to her diagnosis.
I find that when Paloma was in Mason Hospital, she
understood and accepted that she had lymphoma and cancer. Ploma

(01:24:19):
initially consented to the treatment offered by the hospital during
that admission, and that included consenting to the administration of
predators not alone and ras Buia case. So Kay lied
about that as well. So we were correct in our
assumption that basically she'd initially said yes, of course, I'll
do that, then phoned her mum, who she was at
the time estranged from due to a history of abuse

(01:24:43):
from Kay, which, according to the coroner's report and came
out in there in the inquest, was seemingly ubiquitous. She's
knocking her ex husband about, he's knocking her about. They're
all taking it out on the children, to the point
where at the time of Poloma's diagnosis, three of the

(01:25:05):
four children were strange, two of them permanently from k
It is horrible. The doubts about consent only surfaced after
miss sherem Rhanni became involved, and I found that mister
m Ranni adversely influenced Poloma to come to the position
that that she had not consented when she had, so

(01:25:29):
there she reckoned it again. This was in part, at
least due to Mischareron Vrani's unfounded misconceptions that Rasbuia case
was given as part of chemotherapy or as part of
a trial about which Paloma had not been informed, so
she lied about that she had consented to the Raspuia case,
and the Raspuia case could not have caused the health

(01:25:53):
problems that Paloma had. For avoidance of doubt, I found
that the allegations by doctor mister m ROANNEI regarding the
treatment offered by the Maidstone and Tunbridge Well's NHS Trust
and by Dr Mohan in particular, are totally unfounded. I'm
entirely satisfied that Paloma was given and offered standard management
and treatment for her established diagnosis, and that efforts to

(01:26:13):
re engage Paloma were appropriate in all circumstances. I am
satisfied that following her disengagement from Maison Hospital, mister m
Rani took a leading role in advising Paloma in respect
of and facilitating access to alternative treatments. She arranged inexplicably
a consultation with a cardiologist, which Paloma did agree to attend,

(01:26:33):
but despite Dr Mann's advice, she took no steps to
encourage or persuade Paloma to engage with the independent specialist
services at the Royal Marsden Hospital, where Paloma could have
received more information about her diagnosis and a second opinion
about her treatment options. I find that it is likely
that Paloma would have been willing to attend and consider
what that hospital advised had she been encouraged to do so,

(01:26:56):
and on the basis of the evidence, I cannot understand
why she was not encouraged to engage with this opportunity.
I find out that miss charm Ranni did in fact
know and fully understand that Poloma had a mass a
lymphoma and therefore had cancer. I will read that again.

(01:27:18):
I find miss Schremrani Kate did in fact know and
fully understood that Paloma, her daughter, had a mass, had lymphoma,
and therefore had cancer. It is difficult for me to
assess whether she did or did not believe that Gerson
therapy could cure that disease, as she was unwilling to

(01:27:39):
provide me with clear, clear and frank evidence. But even
if she did, I find it incomprehensible that she did
not encourage Paloma to monitor the effectiveness of the regime
by means of a repeat scan, as had been planned
and was urged by the GP. So Kate knew the

(01:28:00):
Paloma had cancer, and she was advising her to do
gerse On therapy, which in the inquest, which you know
it's a court she refused to say was effective or not.

Speaker 4 (01:28:14):
And the GP then must have also said, okay, fine,
it's up to you if you don't want to do
like our treatment, but can if you're going to do
that treatment, come back, monitor it, yeah, monitor it with scans,
which they didn't even do. That crazy, and I think
that GP must have been doctor disease. So at least
doctors were saying, all right, fine, okay, let's let's let's

(01:28:34):
not let let's just keep an eye on this. And
for whatever reason, K has gone into full blown denial.
Wait until you hear this bit.

Speaker 3 (01:28:45):
I find that, as stated above, Paloma had now come
to believe that she did not have cancer. That's fucked up.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
What what the fuck did they think they had?

Speaker 3 (01:29:03):
I don't know, but she had a mass and that
the gerse on therapy would eventually work to reduce this mass,
and presumably that this mass was a reaction to the
rasp Burier case or some sort of infection or something
like that that would was not life threatening and would
eventually sort itself out. That's fucking horrific. I cannot accept

(01:29:29):
that missus Shremerani believed this, and it's extremely difficult to
understand why she did not escalate matters medically for her
daughter at this stage. I find miss shem Raney's failure
to seek appropriate advice and assistance even when it was
abundantly clear Poloma needed it to be egregious and incomprehensible,
all the more so for someone who was once a nurse.

(01:29:52):
I mean, just fucking hell. She's got the maternal instincts
of a fucking cookoo. That's so. She knew Paloma had cancer.
She advised Paloma to do an alternative therapy for cancer,
but somehow managed to convince this poor dying girl that
she didn't have cancer. This is monstrous, This is fucking monstrous.

(01:30:21):
It goes on. So I find that the use of
for adrenaline was within the guidelines for the use in
those over twelve years of age, and was appropriately given
by the via intra ossius route by the ambulance crew.
It is likely. It is likely that the adrenaline kept
her alive at this time, and it certainly did not
cause or hasten her death. The brain damage that Paloma

(01:30:44):
suffered was as a result of the obstruction of the
airway by the tumor and a reduction in oxygen supplied
to her brain, and had already begun long before the
ambulance crews attended, so that was not caused by the
adrenaline either. On the basis of all these findings, I
do consider that I can conclude and do conclude that

(01:31:04):
the influence which was brought to bear on Paloma on
her view and understanding of her diagnosis and on her
decision making as to the treatment and management of her illness,
taken as a whole, did contribute more than minimally to
her death. I've concluded above that doctors and missus Schremerani's
unwillingness or inability to accept the reality, namely that Paloma's

(01:31:27):
death resulted from the progression of her mass is because
the disease was left untreated. I cannot conclude without passing
some comment on the behavior of doctor and miss Tremranni.
Their correspondence and approach to the core, and their persistent
pursuit of utterly groundless assertations as to the cause of
death and unfounded allegations in relation to the steps being

(01:31:48):
taken by others who tried to treat their daughter during
the course of the hearing, has been reprehensible. Now this
is so, the parents of Paloma were more than minimally
responsible for the death of their daughter. They contributed more

(01:32:12):
than minimally to the death of their own daughter, and
they're going to have to live with that for the
rest of their life. And they know that, they must
know that because they're not stupid, they are greedy and
you know, devious and desperate for attention and willing to
literally put their daughters in experiment to try and gain

(01:32:36):
gravitas within the conspiracy world, which we must remember is
some strangers on the fucking Internet. But it wasn't considered
an unlawful killing. And obviously this made Gabriel and Sebastian
very angry, and I can totally understand why Gabriel tweaks out.

(01:33:00):
I found mister and Ronie's care of her daughter incomprehensible,
but not an unlawful killing any quote to it. This
just in the state says you can lawfully kill your
own daughter. He went on to say that the coroner's
determined case conduct towards my sister did not break the law.
So let's take a look at the behavior that the
coroner has found to be completely lawful. One falsifying a

(01:33:23):
dying woman's court statement is entirely legal. Gave her Sheremroni's
high court proceedings were I find entirely mostivated by his
desire to persuade Perloma to undergo treatment, although the evidence
just suggests that the proceedings in fact caused her distressed
and anxiety and may have been counterproductive. However, in this regard,
I will note that this appears to me to be
a further area in which Poloma was not well served

(01:33:45):
by those who were advising her. I find that Ploma's
own indication that others were managing the situation for her
reflected the reality. And I have real doubts to how
as to how much of the witness statement submitted reflected
her own words. Remember the really poorly to one that
was almost as badly written as some of the shit
that Kay writes. Given the subject matter of the proceedings,

(01:34:07):
law fair approach was inappropriate and unhelpful to Paloma, I find,
and I have real concerns that doctor Agaz, who was
providing both counseling and what were intended to be independent assessment,
was too involved. I've been particularly concerned that he kept
no Then it cuts off. Gabriel goes on to say
it is legal to ignore that your doctor has cancer

(01:34:29):
and to continue to refuse medical interventions, And this is
the bit that we've already read that I find though
that miss Tremardi did, in fact know and fully understood
that Paloma had a mass, had lim phone, and therefore
had cancer. It's difficult for me to believe that Gerson therapy.
It's difficult for me to assess whether she did or
did not believe that Gerson therapy could cure the disease,

(01:34:51):
and she was unwilling to provide with clear and frank evidence.
But even if she did, I find it incompensible that
she did not encourage Poloma to monitor the effectiveness of
the race by means of a repeat scan, as had
been planned and as was urged by her GP. In fact,
it was I find clear that Gerson therapy, even taken
together with hyperbolic oxygen therapy and craniale osteopathy, were not

(01:35:13):
capable of curing a Paloma's lymphoma. There is no evidence
that Gerser therapy can cure cancer, and any claims to
the contrary are without any evidence, any evidence base, and misguided.
This may well have been a therapy which assists with
well being and general health, but absolutely no more. Three
it is legal to override your daughter's decision to receive

(01:35:35):
life saving treatment. And this is the bit that we
said we're saying that they absolutely did take control. So
she did take control over other events which she knew
of Poloma's diagnosis. It's clear from her behavior in the
hospital or her ascertations that she would seek second opinions
and the voice note to Palomas their boyfriend. Thereafter, she

(01:35:57):
played a real role in identifying those who provided service
to and advice Paloma thereafter. Her care went beyond a
mother's duty, and she was clearly monitoring Poloman's progress, for example,
by taking regular oxygen saturation readings and supplying oxygen when needed.
I find she took on what could be described as
nursing and care coordinating responsibilities, and I find that a

(01:36:18):
duty of care arose so far as evidence of breaching
that duty is concerned. In view of all the findings
set out above, I do consider that miss Schremarani did
not meet the duty of care which arose in relation
to the role that she'd taken on. So she'd let
her daughter down. She absolutely let her daughter down. She's
doing oxygen saturation tests but refusing to monitor the growth

(01:36:43):
of the tumor in her daughter's chest while it's continuing
to go down the route of alternative cancer. Treatments which
she thought would cure her. Apparently while it's convincing Poloma
that she didn't have cancer. I will not. I have
already identified my concerns over her verse influence over Poloma's

(01:37:05):
and understanding treatment and management of a diagnosis, and I
won't repeat them. I also do not accept that she
was encouraging Paloma to come to her own, fully informed
decision on matter's treatments and then simply respecting those decisions. Rather,
I find that she was encouraging and the influencing Paloma
to take the route that she did, and then failing
to ensure monitoring of the progress and medical escalation in

(01:37:26):
the face of deterioration. So that's that's despicable. She's and
you could even go further and suggest that she was
bullying her. Some of those texts like suggested that she
was bullying Paloma into doing what she said and without
even mentioning that I am the only one that can
save you. Don't bite the hand that feeds. That's despicable.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
That's the pin that I've been waiting for the whole time,
because that is some cult leadership as.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Well, isn't Yeah, there's cult leadership right there.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
I am the only one who can help you, and
don't bite the hand that feeds. How abusive is that?
That's the course of relationship? Every Oh my goodness, it's
it's the it's ship, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:13):
It's just disticable to me.

Speaker 4 (01:38:18):
Is you are you are responsible for what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:38:23):
Yeah? I mean there's so many things that you could
you could build in the argument that it goes on.
So finally it's lawfully. It's lawful to delay calling the
ambulance whilst you call a friend, whilst your daughter cardiac arrests.
And then it's the passage of yeah that essentially she
waited and uh and didn't call the ambulance for for

(01:38:47):
some time. Sebastian tweets out, and this is an explanation
as to why it wasn't considered a or lawful killing
result the authorities of faild Us. The coroner did find
that Kay's actions and believes likely caused Poloma's unnatural death,
but of the five points needed for them to find

(01:39:10):
what Kay did was an unlawful killing and therefore start
legal proceedings, we only got three. So the five points
needed for unlawful killing under British law and what the
coroner found Kay had a duty of care to Paloma,
and Kay was negligent with his duty of care, and

(01:39:30):
the negligence created a serious and obvious risk of Poloma's death.
So all of those were were found to have met
the thresholder And this is where the coroner felt that
it didn't meet the threshold of an unlawful killing. He
didn't think that the negligence significantly contributed to death. Corona

(01:39:53):
said Kay wasn't alone in giving Paloma false medical advice
because many of Kay's crazy disciples were also advising Paloma,
so they can't be sure that it was only Kay's
negligence that led to the death. We find this ridiculous
because the disciples were handpicked by Kay to talk to Poloma,
so they were essentially extensions of Ka's decisions. Does this

(01:40:14):
mean conspiracy theory? Influencers have a license to kill so
long as they do it as a team. And I
have to say I agree there that she was the
conduit towards all of that. She was evenly, she was
even like, you know, you could make the argument that
that Parlemon was an adult and she'd come to the
and she was anti vax or whatever, and this potentially

(01:40:36):
informed her ideas of the NHS. But where she got
that from. She's got that from growing up with her
mother as well. And then the final on was was
that the negligence was so gross as to justify a
criminal conviction. The coroner didn't bother to decide this because
he felt that he'd stopped at the previous point. But

(01:40:56):
we guess that the answer would be yes if the
previous four conditions were also met. So overall, this is
a ridiculous and disappointing result. After over twenty years of abuse,
we almost had k now to the wall. Now she's
free to kill again, and the brothers have got a
couple of options. They won. They absolutely planned to do
a judicial review, which is basically to set to take

(01:41:19):
it to an appeals court and to say that they
don't think that the that the inquest has come to
the correct decision and they can hopefully argue the case again.
And this is that's quite interesting because if you remember,
doctor Schremrani said that he was going to bring a
judicial review because they'd refused to look at the evidence

(01:41:42):
that the paramaics killed them killed Paloma, which is not true.
They did look at that evidence and they found that
it was not possible. It wasn't possible. So just to reiterate,
ks lied about absolutely every aspect of the case, and
to sort of bolster this, she's also brought out this

(01:42:05):
sort of broader concept of organ theft, which is also
lied about. And every single paper, every single piece of
evidence that she's brought forward, has been misrepresented. And I
will say this again, it relies on her presuming that
her followers are too lazy or stupid to read sometimes

(01:42:27):
to read the things that she actually posts on Twitter.
Like she's still doing it today. Someone was saying you
killed your daughter, and she said, what you mean the
doctors killed hers? Is now you killed her. The doctors
didn't do the histology. Poloma only had a differential diagnosis.

(01:42:48):
It's all good athletics on Twitter posted Kate shrem Raney
has been posting for months about how ploma only had
a differential diagnosis and could not be confirmed and did
not have lymphoma. Turns out all the all the differentials
were lymphoma subtypes. Dr Amet Gole told me that he

(01:43:08):
was the consultant histopathologist at Maiston Hospital who examined the
biopsy taken for the mass lymphoma and is one of
his areas of specialism. Four core biopsies in one block
were examined and these were sufficient for reliable histological testing
and diagnosis. Oh oh, so they did have the histology.
Oh so that's another thing that Kate's lied about. He

(01:43:33):
said that specific findings led him to conclude with certainty
that Coloma had high grade B cell non Hodgkins lymphoma,
which is a cancer. His colleagues, Professor Schofield and Dr
Manny Padnam agreed with his findings. In his report, which
were provided to the clinical team on the twentieth of
December twenty twenty three, he wrote that there were differential

(01:43:53):
diagnoses to the subtype. The possibilities were diffuse large B
cell lymphoma, primary medistinal lymphoma, and medistinal grey zone lymphoma.
Doctor Girl said that it's difficult to diagnose subtype definitely
from the biopsy tisue alone. Therefore, the findings had discussed
subsequently at multidisciplinary team meetings. He had conducted immunoprofiling, the

(01:44:17):
outcome of which led him to consider that Paloma's disease
was best risk, regarded as diffuse large B cell lymphoma,
but the other two subtypes could not be definitively excluded.
So they did do the histology and what they determined
was that the differential diagnosis, if you remember we said

(01:44:41):
that that was we think it's this, but it could
be other stuff, so that we'll go off and have
a look at it. The only other possibilities that it
could have been would have been other types of lymphoma.
So they did do the histology. They did move past
the differential diagnosis and they found that it's the alternative

(01:45:04):
possibilities were other types of were other types of lymphoma.
Now this is very very sad. Athletics goes on to say,
and this is in the coroni's report. The recommended chemotherapy
was the same for all presented subtypes. Poor Poloma needed

(01:45:28):
support from her parents, not scare mongering. I hope that
anybody who still trust Kate Schremrani takes five minutes to
read the coroner's report. Dr Mohan said that Poloma's case
has been referred to on the twenty first of December
as an urgent basis because the mass presented a risk
of compromise of poloma's airways and adjacent vessels. She explained
that the lymphone was high grade, meaning that the disease

(01:45:50):
was aggressive and progressing rapidly, but that as a B
cell lymphoma, it was treatable and had a better chance
of cure than T cells type. She saw doctor Girl's
report and was aware that there were differential diagnosis to
the subtype of lymphoma, but she explained that all three
subtypes were high grade lymphomas requiring treatment by means of

(01:46:12):
r chop chemotherapy with steroids, which was the standard and
only treatment. The differential diagnosis did not need to be
further explored. Therefore before starting initial treatment. Given the bulky mass,
treatment was required urgently and without it the disease would
inevitably progress. In response to Mischarma's questions, Dr Mohan reiterated

(01:46:35):
the outcome of further pathology testing, in particular fish testing,
which may have come later, would not have affected treatment
at this stage. So for all of her going on
about she should there was no histology and there was
only a differential diagnosis, so it didn't prove that she
had non Hodgkins lymphoma. Well, she did that was what

(01:46:57):
was actual cause, but the only other possibilities were done
through histological testing were other types of lymphoma. So if
their initial diagnosis had been wrong, but if they'd still
gone down the chemotherapy route, there was still an eighty
percent chance that paloma would have survived. The whole thing

(01:47:22):
is just it's brutal, it's absolutely monstrous. Like somebody, she
knew her daughter had cancer, she refused to do She
refused to even do the same treatment that she herself
had undergone for cancer. Remember that she presents herself as like,

(01:47:46):
I know all about this because I rejected mainstream medicine. No,
you didn't. You had surgery. You absolutely had surgery, and
you refused after care radiation, right, which you're stupid, and
you somehow got away with it. Looking you knew your
daughter had cancer, you lie to her. You told her

(01:48:08):
that this treatment that you don't think works, which you
sell to other vulnerable people, would help her, but you
avoided monitoring the growth of her tumor in order to
present this reality so that you could get some sort
of cachet as the person who cured your daughter's disease.

(01:48:29):
Which is insane because you must have known that it
wasn't going to work. You said you were going for
alternative treatments in Iran and Mexico.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
You didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:48:41):
You said that you were providing a duty of care.
You didn't. You said that you weren't the person that
was trying to influence your daughter, but you absolutely did,
even to the point of trying to become take the
power of attorney. And then when it all blew upon
your face, you panicked, you didn't react correctly, and then
retroactively you tried to change what had happened and blame

(01:49:05):
people other people for your negligence against your daughter. Your
negligence allowed your daughter to die, and it was needless.
It was needless outside of an ego trip, outside of
a pathetic you must secretly loathe yourself for the need

(01:49:31):
to do something as reckless as that in order to
prove that you're of worth in this world.

Speaker 4 (01:49:39):
And the hero in her journey. Yeah, Yeah, that's what
it all comes down to with these goddamn conspiracy theorists.
At the end of the day, there is that they
are on their hero's journey and they've just sacrificed absolutely
everything for confirmation bias mixed with clout. When it comes

(01:50:02):
to the Inflorentzis, it's sickening, absolutely sickening.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
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