Bonus - Neil Shouts At A Racist (BRV)

Hello initiates! We will be back next week with a new episode where we'll explain in full detail what happened to Brent! Thank you all for your patience!

In the meantime, here's a bonus episode - Neil gets invited on a different show and ends up shouting at a racist... enjoy!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hello, listen, listen, this is a bit of a bonus episode.
This is me going on someone else's show and losing
my temper and shouting at a racist, So enjoy.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
The War on Reality report. My name is Billy Ray
Valentine and I'm joined here by Don Jeffrey. Say what's
up to the people?

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Sir?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
No, Tony Harderburn today? You didn't have your show yesterday.
You were feeling under the weather, but you're here today,
so what's up? How are you, sir?

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah? A little bit better today, So get me a
give bit a go. Good to see. Good to see
our friend from across the pond. I'm sure this will
be an invigorating discussion. I think you'll I will be
agreeing with you guys on substante points, but we'll have
other disagreements as well.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
To say the least, mister Neil Sanders is here all
the way from the UK. In very happy to have
Neil on the broad podcast. Neil is a real one,
as you already know. You may disagree with him, but
uh uh I I have a hard time, you know,
challenging the integrity of this guy. From what I know,

(01:14):
and I've known him for a few years now. Neil Sanders,
how are you? Your thoughts are not your own? What's
up buddy?

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Very well?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, just ticking along doing the podcast still some day
call it conspiracy. We've had a bit of a break
because Brent's been not very well, but he's on the
mend and he has been in the hospital. So but
we're gonna be doing an episode to explain all of
that soon. So so yeah, but I'm good. Thank you

(01:43):
very much for inviting me on this. It's been a
bit a while since we've had a chance to chat, so.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Send him my best. I hope he gets better soon.
And none there call it conspiracy. Got over there, man.
It's it's a it's a tool in in d program.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So some we're the ones that do they want to
say some decoic conspiracy. And we've got a a sort
of our recent thing that we're doing is just sort
of like tracking the news and tracking the craziness essentially,
which is called the world according to some or twats
so check that out as well.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It's it's interesting as hell, man. Listen, ship's really hitting
the fan right like, uh, I remember you and I
starting out iconic at about the same time. And we
both left there with totally different perspectives. Is when we
walked in, you know, it was it's incredible how that happened.

(02:40):
Ship's really hitting the fan now, at least they here
in the United States, and of course it affects everything worldwide.
But what's the perception of what's going on in the
United States over by.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
You, by me, or by the general sort of public
in the UK.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
The general public in the UK, this is there's a.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Small swathe of people that like the disruptive nature of Trump,
like they're sort of there owning the Libs and the
cry hard and liberal tears and all that sort of things.
Most of those sort of people tend to also be
sort of fans of things like Tommy Robinson and reform
and stuff like that. But if I'm brutally honest, the
majority of people tend to look at it and go,

(03:21):
what an absolute clown show? Like it's embarrassing, like to
the point where we've got that terrible English secondhand embarrassment
of oh, this is awful, this is just this is
just dreadful, but in a professional sense, like and in
an embarrassing way, like you know, you've got absolute idiots
and positions of power. You've got people making decisions that

(03:45):
are a very very detrimental to a normal working person,
seemingly on the fly. There seems to be no rhyme
or reason behind economic decisions. There seems to be no
rhyme or reason behind a budgetary decisions. Certain things like Doge,
which have been there to save money and find fraud
of ending up actually costing money, right, and all that

(04:11):
they've done at Doge is basically positioned Elon Musk's companies
to be more powerful and to get Morgan kickbacks and
more money from essentially taxpayers and cut off services for people.
So it's a sort of people are watching it a
little bit like a car crash, like in a sort

(04:33):
of like oh god, this is horrible fascinating at the
same time, So that that is the sort of general consensus.
Like I'm sure a lot of people who are listening,
who are in the conspiracy world will be saying, like, no,
it's not. We love Trump. He's fighting the Illuminati and
all of that.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
But he's not, is he No, he's he's definitely not.
I received some heat Meal as his customary, and the
person that sent me the email, I read it yesterday.
It came in April, though. Uh. He was like, I
heard you say that that the United States is actually
an embarrassment, that the Trump administration or regime like I

(05:13):
like to call it, is an embarrassment to the rest
of the world. And and he was like, I cringed
when I heard you say that.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Because that's accurate, that's completely accurate.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
Of course it's accurate. But he's like, I cringed when
I heard you say that, because most countries would envy
a leader like Donald Trump. Literally, my god.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
They started it off with with praising me in the
beginning for that they followed me for a long time,
and that that I seem like a great guy. And
then they went on for about I don't know how
many paragraphs of how wrong I am and how delusional
I am, you know, And I'm like, man, are we
living in two different realities? I think that's the point.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
I think, because that's delightfully charging that that person thinks that.
But I've said this about but Donald Trump before. Donald
Trump is like a massive spoiler on a car, on
a classic car, like putting a massive racing spoiler on
a massive car. Some people will think that's really cool,
but most people will think it's a bit ostentatious and

(06:19):
looks stupid. And that's Donald Trump. Essentially, he appeals to
a very very specific type of person. And how he
appeals to those people is he gives them an identity.
He gives them an outlet to rage against people, He
gives them enemies, and he gives them legitimate ways to

(06:43):
voice grievances. And not all of these are completely false,
but they're often twisted in ways that basically are are
hyped up in order to maximize the sort of response
out of this. And again, what it does is it
ties that in with you're part of an army, you're
part of a group, you're part of a klan, you

(07:04):
part of the crowd, you're part of a cult, some
might say, and that group think and that sort of
that what that offers people don't want to give that up.
They don't want to give that up because essentially it
becomes as identity.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Right. It's tough. It's tough to realize something like that
and let go of it. It's very difficult. We're one
hundred and fourteen strong, what's up to everybody listening? Wherever
you are, watching, wherever you are. We very much appreciate it.
Don Jeffries, this is your area. We spoke about this
a few weeks ago. Habeas Corpus is in talks of

(07:40):
being suspended by absolute psychopath. So Donald Trump is gonna
do this, but it's Stephen Miller who's pushing it, you know,
and that guy is freaking gone. He's on another planet rumors.
According to John Bristom, he turned down the National Security
Advisor a position because he wants to continue deporting people,

(08:02):
you know, And I could believe that based on Steven Miller.
But this is your thing. You were talking about how
Abraham Lincoln is the most you know, fascist of fascist
presidents ever in the history of America. He suspended Habeas
Corpus during the Civil War. But here we go with
Donald They're going to at least attempt this. Hopefully the

(08:23):
courts are block it. But this will suspend the rights
of every American, every American, not just illegal people that
are here, every single American Red alert conductor. We have
a problem. What's up done?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, yeah, as you're right, Habey's Corpus is right down
my alley. And again I can't I can't explain what
is going on with Trumpetstein Part two. As they said,
it started out on a tear when he was like
a boll through a china shop, and he issued a
bunch of executive orders. I think a lot of the
were good, but realize that's the system can't run on
exact orders, and the courts are just blocking and you

(09:02):
have to have Congress involved. In Congress refused to get involved,
and that's always they prefer to have the imperial presidency
fight judicial review the imperial courts. So that's where we
are right now. It's head office, which is a federal
judge's going to rule or is Trump? So this you
mentioned Lincoln, and if they actually attempt this to spend

(09:22):
the rid of habeas corpus, I don't think you can
pick and choose and suspend it on certain people. So
that's what's going to be very difficult. So you're right,
they would have to make it so that everybody's rights
are disrated. But at that point the courts will become involved.
But I'm sure that they will cite Lincoln as president
and they will try to claim that what's going on

(09:44):
now is as much as you saw, and again it's ironic.
And then this is why I say the two party
system is such a joke, because this is going beyond
but very similar to what happened to the January sixth prisoners.
And the left was just fine with them being denied
due process to being sitting in prisons three years or whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
And that's that's just slow process. That's not the same
thing at all.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Well, it is because you can't.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
They weren't. They weren't charged trial.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Let them, let them finish the point and then you.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Can again they had a right to a speedy trial,
which they obviously didn't get in many cases didn' get
any trials.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
But I'm saying is that's not true that there's nobody
that didn't get a trial.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
No, the left again was very fine. The a c
o U, which I used to belong to as a
young guy and is no longer concerned about civil liberties.
They should really change their name. Uh, they were just
fine with what was happening there. Those were political prisoners.
The right is the right is looking again for apparently

(10:50):
something akin to that, and they're using illegal immigration, which
again it has not been addressed for decades, and this
should have been addressed a long time ago, it has it.
Trump is predictably going about this the wrong way, which
he always does. And this again, that's why I call
him trumpets side. I think he's an actor, and I
think that this kind of thing proves that. I don't

(11:11):
think that the rit of Habeas corpus will actually be suspended.
I think more things that are trying it out there.
There's so many horrible things that people scared and everything.
I don't think it will and hopefully the courts would
say you can't do that. But again they have linked
it as a precedent because they can say, well, this
they can claim this is an and they'll probably call
it an insurrection. Maybe they'll use the exact same terminology.

(11:34):
After January sixth, they would have no irony, sense of
irony there. But this is the same thing you saw
in many ways after nine to eleven, where everybody that
was named Mohammed was suspect and was in potential danger
as being a terrorist. Now you're seeing anybody named Jose
maybe and anybody has too many tattoos is a potential

(11:54):
and they're even using the term terrorists. Now it went
from gang member to terrorists. And this is a this
is a catch all terms. So you know, I'm a
civil libertarian. I respect everyone's civil rights. So we need
to if you're going to get control of your borders
and you're gonna have the situation, I think millions of
people need to be deported. It looks like they're not
deporting very many, and half of the ones they've deported

(12:17):
are ones that were here legally. I don't know. That's
the impression I get. So it's right now, it's kind
of blowing up, and I think this was this was
by design. I think it's all by design. And I
think Trump, as I said, I think he was hired
to be an actor to kill off the Independent Party movement,
the Third Buddy movement forever, and that's what he's done because,

(12:38):
as you mentioned earlier, the appeal, I don't think that
many people really love Trump's personality. The country is completely divided.
But what happens is the other side they're so fed
up with the woke stuff and the anti white stuff
that they're willing to latch onto any port in the storm.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Isn't that like protesting a hotel by shitting the bed
and then realizing, in a shitted bed we.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Possible possibly that that's that's you know, that's an extreme analogy.
It's possible. I guess you could look into that way,
but it's.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
A correct.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
That's right, because that's the identity that he gives you.
It gives you the like and they will sacrifice stuff
if it doesn't matter, if it's not bad for me.
If it's bad for me, at least it's gonna be
bad for somebody else. It really is spiked politics. I mean,
it's it's it's it's embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, but I don't know, you know, in your situation
over there, I'm sure it's this way all around the world.
You have the fake who got the Populism is the
way of the future, that's what most people can tap into.
Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump were both presented with that
in twenty sixteen, and they tapped in the elements of
populism and they decided to go with Trump. Uh. Nobody

(13:54):
can argue with real populism. They can't. But the problem
is you have your fake populis. Looking at Canada, who
got beat because again because of Trumpetstein. Trumpetstein put that
guy in power that's in Canada because of his ridiculous nonsense.
I met Megan Canada, the fifty first state. So he
got enough people who riled up and say no, hell
no and so. And I don't think that was by accident,

(14:16):
you know, but this we don't have a real populism
cannot be denied. If you had people saying the kind
of things I said, or say, or Huey Long says,
there's no argument against it. The problem is Trump will
say some really great stuff that he always has, and
then he'll say ten really bad things to contradict it. It
it's like what, you know, what the hell is he saying?

(14:36):
So he obviously he doesn't believe anything, but he is.
I'm sure you've read nineteen eighty four, Neil. It's my
favorite book of all time. So you know, Emmanuel Goldstein
was the opposition leader. I've called Trump Goldstein, except for
he's not. He's not like Goldsene because Goldstein was very
literate and you know, made compelling arguments. But he is Goldstein.
Instead of having a two minute hate you have a

(14:58):
twenty four to seven hate trumpery Trump. Trump's personality is
such that he elicits for emotional responses and almost every
I'm a Trump agnostic. There's very very few of us,
but most people hate or love him based on the
stimuli they see. And they either going to start throwing
popcorn at at the screen like they did in nineteen
eighty four for Goldstein, or they're going to say right

(15:20):
on socking to them because they know they know the
establishment is incredibly corrupt and uh fraudulent. So they know
this guy, this guy's fighting them. Of course they're coming
after him, and so they take his side because the
other side is so bad. And so that's the argument.
That's where we are. Now you have this, and and

(15:40):
Trump doesn't seem to give a shit at this point.
He seems like he's he's he's taking his mask completely down,
and he's just getting more and more ridiculous. So maybe
he will suspend the rid of habeas corpus. I don't know,
but I think that we are this is the only
option we're given. Who else is They're not going to
give us anybody else, And so that this is the
problems that we have this and we'll see where it goes.

(16:03):
But obviously I don't think it's going anywhere good. But
all we can do is kind of sit here in
comment on it. And Duke Valentino. He's he must have
mentioned on a hundred times in the chatter about the Irish situation. Maybe, Neil,
I've talked about that before here, Duke, I don't. I'm
not an expert on it. What's going on in Ireland
is what's happening in all the former majority of white
countries are being flooded with migrants. So there is welcome

(16:25):
to what's been happened all over the world. So it's
not I feel bad and I am Irish, but I
don't know what else I can say about other than
it's not unique. Yeah, go ahead, talk.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
About Donald Trump is working on He's basically a combination
of Roy Cone, Steve Bannon, and Vince McMahon, all dreadful
people like and I mean in all seriousness that you've
said that before. Like he takes his cues like from wrestling.
He acts like a heel essentially, and he's incredibly good

(17:01):
at it. The thing that astonishes me is that why
anyone ever sort of fell for it in regards to
like thinking that is a good person for us to
go with, like, and it assorlishes me that anyone from
the conspiracy crowd still sort of like hangs the hat
with him for several reasons, like he ignores the Constitution
that's supposed to be key to people like Alex Jones

(17:26):
and stuff like that. He ignores the Supreme Court. Now
people are going to make excuses that, well, those Supreme
Court blah blah blah in this and they're Obama judges
and all this, which is or not true. Like he's
he's literally sort of using dictatorial powers. He's used forty
thus far in the first one hundred days. Remember Project

(17:46):
twenty twenty five, that thing that he totally wasn't involved with.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
It wasn't really either, It wasn't a thing.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Forty two percent of Project twenty twenty five has been
enacted already already, forty two percent according to people that
are tracking it. Like the man is an absolute con job.
And this idea that he's fighting the establishment. I never
understood that because it never really seems to make any
sense to be quite honest. Now it regards to Ireland,

(18:14):
like this is the same nonsense that's been talked about everywhere.
It's a WEDB issue basically, people in the same way
that abortion was a contrived web issue. Basically, like it's again,
it's a way to legitimize just and out racism. Like
we've got these two problems in the UK, we've got
a thing with asylum seekers. What happened was that the

(18:35):
Conservative government it was in power for fourteen years, purposely
destroyed all legal avenues to claim asylum. So they got
rid of the processing system, creating an enormous backlog which
just about happened to sort of peak around election time.
So they literally created this problem that, ah, what we're
going to do with all these asylum seekers. What the

(18:56):
current government is doing is basically rebuilding that that's process situation,
and if people are found to be not there legally,
they're sent away, they're sent back to their country of origin.
So but it became one of these issues where basically
people can jump up and down and act aggrieved. And
it's a similar idea in Ireland, but it's more to

(19:18):
do with Again it's to do with asylum seekers, but
it's also to do with slightly different because they're freedom
of moving from the EU, so it's a slightly different issue.
But the long and short of it is that there
is this perception within some groups that the great replacement
is happening, that they're being flooded with migrants and asylum seekers,

(19:41):
and that these asylum seekers get all sorts of perks
and benefits. And it really sort of like sort of
amused me in a way because it was like, ah,
we're doing this shit again. I remember this when I
was at fucking school, and it wasn't true then, and
it's not true now. It's massively, massively hyped up and
created to be a problem when an actual fact, it
isn't now. Don't get me wrong. It's not one of

(20:04):
these things where there's oh it's features and cream and
there's absolutely no problems caused by immigration or a science
because of people, you know, living in hotels for long
periods of times and stuff like that. There's all sorts
of things. There could be integration problems, there could be
problems with the locals. There could be people just actually
like dickheads. There can be lots of people that have
used this and manipulated this system to get into the

(20:26):
country who are actually there as bad faith actors. Okay,
but but this is but what it is used is
again is hyped up to be a massive issue, and
then you get twats like Colin McGregor, rapist twats like
Colin McGregor, right, who who use this as the one
issue reform UK are using this as an issue as well.

(20:47):
We want to do mass deportations, which is not feasible
on the side of anything else and similar to the
sort of habeas corpus one of their solutions to this.
You're like, this is to remove all human rights for
everybody in the United Kingdom and then put these people
on the boat and traffic them to France and drop

(21:07):
them off at France, causing an international incident. Now that's
not that's not a sensible.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
But Neil, Neil, I think again, there's a great replacement.
And if you objective the term, that's one thing. But
there's no question the white race, the Caucasian race, is
going extinct by any Definitely, No.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
It is not. It is absolutely not supposed to replacement
level when it has. He's done, let me speak, it's
the stupid thing. You're not being replaced. I've never heard
the white genocide is the only genocide where there's no
actual death or genocide. I've never heard a better example

(21:45):
of white privilege in my entire fucking life.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
From from my from my from my area. And again,
when you use the term invasion. That's a term. Yes,
it's a pejorative term because it's not an invasion because
they're they're being being brought here. They are being brought
here to replace.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Let them get a fund.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
But the problem is prob.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Let me get them in. Let me get him in, Neil,
so you can you can respond proper.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
This wasn't a great replacement. And if the idea is
just to have diversity everywhere and to have you know,
to make everything it just you know, a melting pot,
then why are why aren't any of these migrants going
to any of the countries as Ireland and.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Duke say they elected.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
You're not letting me complete the thought.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
Here in Ireland they elected I think a mayor from Pakistan.
Over there in London you have a mayor from any now.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Let me know, no, no, give me a.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Let me know when you can find, you know, an
official in India that's from Ireland or from England or
something like that. One way, there's let me get them,
Let me get get no migrants. There are no migrants
from Haiti or do men from anywhere else that are
going into India or or any Saudi Arabia certainly not

(23:15):
China or China has signs up to say no blacks
allowed all over the place.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
I want to talk about that.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
So this is one way thing. There's no about it.
My area has been trans.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
There's some there's some basics, there's basic common sense UH
explanations for a lot of this stuff. Why do you
see an Indian or somebody of Indian or Pakistani or
Bangladesh dissent taking prominent UH positions in.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
The U K.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
That's because that's that's because of the you want to
talk about invasions and colonizations. That's that's what was done.
And that's why those people are coming over to Europe
because they were colonized.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
By they're being broad here.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You recognized by British.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
We asked them to come here after the war to
help Pakistan, Bangladesh and UH and the Caribbean. And that
is why now, about five generations later, we have people
in prominent positions as a popularist whose parents were born

(24:27):
in this country and as a.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Populace and you're doing the same thing. You're doing the
same thing right now.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
We need to have I'm not getting I'm not getting
any time here.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
You were given time and I tried to back and
I'll give you more time. But this time I was
talking and it's it's a common sense reality. If people
choose to ignore it, it's something else. But there's history
to it. It's like saying, why are so many South
and Central Americans coming to the United States. Well, why
don't you look at American policy for those regions for

(24:56):
the longest of time and how they perpetuated a migration
from those countries given the conditions that were created over
there by American corporate industry. That's just the fact of
the matter, you know. It's so these are things we
need to talk about. And when we talk about replacements,
there's a there's a big deal here with being surrounded

(25:18):
by jefferents or being surrounded by listening to Jason Whitlock.
These people are toxic people that are racist and put
out all these talking points and and nothing to back
it up, you know, So that that that's that's an
issue here. We need to get away from that sort
of thing and actually have a real uh debate or
real talk about this. Now the term invasion, which I've

(25:42):
been talking about for quite some time, Okay, and then
we're gonna give everybody equal chance to talk and hopefully
there's no interruptions.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Right.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
The term invasion has been used to describe what's going
on here in the United States at the border for
some time, and this is how we've ended up with
the habeas corpus uh argument right now, because they're going
to say there is an invasion, it has to be
a war time. It has to be during war or
invasion in order to be able to enact such a

(26:10):
law right to make it happen. So they're using that
the invasion. And it came out of this frickin' book
like Camp the Saints, the Camp of the Saints, admittedly
by Steven Miller who introduced it over to Steve Banning
and Breitbart, and it says it speaks of an invasion
coming to the borders. This was in Europe, of course,

(26:32):
this brook is a French book, and that's when they
started using the narrative to weaponize it in order to
get to this point. And now we're here, and the
thing is, wherever you stand on the immigration issue, it's
no longer just about immigrants. It's also about you. And
we need to get people to a point where they

(26:54):
realize that it's about them, that they start caring about
other people before it gets to them, because people, at
least here in the United States seem to not care
about other people. They only care about it when it
knocks on their door. And that's the biggest problem here. Now, Donna,
I want you, I want your full time, right, Neil,
Please don't interrupt them. I want you to to be

(27:15):
able to respond to all of his points. So if
you need a pen or a pad, write them down.
And I know sometimes you're gonna get, you know, amped
up and say something. Try try to keep it. Give him,
give him a space so he can say whatever he
wants to say. That way we can better argue this.
Go ahead, done.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, I mean this is this is not just in
terms of a racial thing, although it is. It is
strictly non white people that are coming as migrants. There
aren't no white lin they're white staff out there from
farmers or anything. It's all non white's and they're all
coming to what we're formerly majority white company countries. That's
where you get that. But the other element of it

(27:52):
may be more important, is the economic element. We are
being also replaced. Americans in middle classes are being replaced
with cheaper labor that's why you have the foreign visa workers.
And my old field of it, I saw that happen
or we were taken over Elon Musk loves that by
mostly India that were coming. They would the programmers and

(28:12):
analysts would work for half of what they were paying
American workers. So this is something where they want a
cheaper labor for so they've got Americans now training. Again.
I've seen this in my lifetime. They act as if
we don't know how to cut our own lawns, we
don't know how to do construction, we don't know how
to do landscaping. We used to. Now it's just cheap labor.
And you have the rich people that you know, hire
nannies and so forth. They always hire. You saw back

(28:34):
to the days of Bill Clinton where he couldn't get
an attorney general in because everyone he had had an
illegal alien nanny. I mean, so that goes back to
the nineties. So this is something where again I think
if you look at it, if this was a two
way street, then they would be It's just like climate
change or anything else. All the criticisms directed to the
white countries. That's why they don't talk about China or India,

(28:57):
which are the two biggest polluters on earth. They mentioned
it because this is all about it is an anti
white agenda, an anti people agenda. But there definitely is
an anti white agenda. And when you look at what
has happened in my area this if you see how
it's changed, to say that there's been no change at all. Yeah,
and part of it is white birth rate plummeting. Yeah,

(29:20):
that's true. But the other part is that we are
being the population has being changed. Now you can argue
that's good or bad, but it's definitely undeniably being changed.
And you saw the UK was it last year where
you had a bunch of whites were finally fed up
and they went out in the streets and they protested.
What happened. You had some public official over there threatened

(29:42):
to arrest Elon Musk So, I mean what happened that
was shut down instantly. So that's the difference between our countries.
At least we have some semblance of a cot of
a bill of rights. Left people want to get rid
of it. But that's the problem is that we have.
There are people and I wanted to mention that thing.
What you're seeing now is there is a backlash, and people,

(30:02):
the white middle class, working class especially, they are becoming
incensed about this and now they're finding back the only
way they can. So you're seeing recently where you saw
the woman in the park who called the hot blonde
that called the little Somali boy who definitely was not
five years old. That's the biggest five year old I've
ever seen, but whatever he was, she called him the

(30:23):
N word. So people responded, she's almost a millionaire now.
That would not have happened even a year ago. And
I think it's what it is. The tolerance is the
point where people are, you know what we're as much
as the reason for Trump's support is yeah, let's stick
it to him. Let's stick it to CNN and fake
news there. Yeah, he may not do anything good, but

(30:45):
they'll get mad and they'll watch their heads. I've always
said the best thing about Trump is the entertainment factor
and watching the people on TV and everything explode over
the dumb stuff he says. So that may be all
we can do at this point, but I think to
deny that. This is not to say invasion is the
wrong term, because they're not coming here on their own.

(31:06):
For the most part, how do you think the people
from Haiti? How do they these people are desperately poor,
or what countries like that? How do they get to
where they go? Who plays for the plane, triket ticket
or the boat? Obviously somebody's orchestrating this, And this is
why I say why people believe in conspiraities. Somebody wants
this to happen. I don't know how many of those

(31:27):
people would actually come over themselves, but there, if you're
there being paid to, then you're seeing what's happening. But yeah,
to say it's wrong, and when you're talking about with
the people, I don't know to what degree how much
of that true. Apparently it was true that some of
the illegals were being holed up in five star hotels
and given credit cards and all that. But I look

(31:48):
at what we do for our own bard. We do nothing.
We've got them living and crapping in the streets. You
have veterans that can't get health here. So whatever they
got is more than the American poor is getting. They
get nothing, and the same right that you know, they
want to take away what little they get. They want
to disrate the safety net. So I'm a populist man,

(32:08):
I believe. I don't think if this was helping people,
if immigrants coming when you have people that are I've
talked about America has the bottom fifty percent, have the
population that have less than one percent of the collective
wealth has nothing. Every immigrant that comes here enters at
the very bottom. So they're expanding that base that had
that bottom half that has nothing. That's not good for

(32:29):
e comedy, it's not good for the people. If you
were bringing people over who are going to make salaries
higher or opportunities explode, then yeah, bring them on. That's
the exact opposites that's happening. What they're doing is they're
bringing over and they're demonizing Americans. They're just doing the
jobs you won't do. Yeah for what you're paying. You're right.
I'm not going to stand at home depot the cold

(32:50):
and have you give me a ten dollar bill and
I'll work all day for you. That's what they've done
to us. Same thing with H one bv's and workers.
Why should I I got out just in time, But
why should somebody you go get training and everything just
to be replaced by somebody who's got to work for
half the price half their salary. So this is this
is a popular situation. It's the people versus the establishment. Trump,

(33:10):
unfortunately is the only He's the he's the royal opposition.
We've been given. We have nobody else. So a lot
of people are opting just say Trump is the lesser
two evils and at least will be entertained and hear
him talking about them.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
So a couple couple of things before Neil goes. The
Haitians were allowed to come here to work under the
Biden administration. It wasn't a conspiracy, it wasn't George Soros
or any craziness like that. They were brought here to
work and they were legally here and the Trump has
deported them all. What was it? There was some other

(33:44):
thing that you had said. Also, it's like it's gone
from my mind. Chris Buckham says that it's bullshit because
colonialism benefits blacks and browns. I love you, Chris, but
that's very, very, very racist. And there was another one there.
I forgot who it was, but they said some other
freaking nonsense, some nonsense all about Africa, saying that Africa

(34:06):
is a real shithole.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Uh, you know, the fucking pyramids and all clad and
sorry not.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Here it is, of course. It's my guy John Basign
going to South Africa, the end of white controlled you know,
and and this is what we're dealing with here. There's
a lot of a lot of racism, a lot of it,
you know. So, I mean that's what happened with with
the Haitians that that were coming over here. There's a

(34:35):
couple of other points. I think I'll think about it
as soon as somebody refreshes my memory with a point
they make. But I'm gonna turn it over to Neil.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Go ahead, So done, it's all non white coming over here,
he said. So I don't want to response. This is rhetorical,
i'd say, so what I think I really speak that
says something done because just the color of somebody's skin.

(35:02):
I mean, I'll take it back to what you were
saying earlier about an Indian mayre. A. So what and
B that's not true? Okay, it doesn't matter. Why are
you so bothered about skin color? Why are you bothered
about hair color or eye color? Because you know, genetically
it makes no bloody difference. It's ridiculous. It sounds like

(35:23):
an excuse because I'll bet you'll say, well, I don't
really mean that. I mean, that's what I'm saying, but
don't really mean that. I'm talking about culture.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Again.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
That's so, it's so it's not pure racism, it's just
a supremaist argument. Then fine, fair enough, so long as
we're on the same page, because I don't see that
any of that is a problem. I just don't. And
again I think that it's a wedge issue that is
used to raise the hackles. It's a way to unite
people in a really terrible, manipulative and bad way. I'm white,

(35:54):
so I'll stick with other whites. And also it's simply
not true. My ex girlfriend is moved to America. Loads
of white people moved to Spain, loads of white people
moved to Goa loads of white people moved to Dubai, Okay,
and not all super wealthy at all. I've got friends
that are working really shitty jobs over in Dubai, living

(36:16):
around millionaires, but actually earning less than they were in
the UK. So you went on to say that the
thing is that we're all being replaced, replaced by cheaper labor.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Ah, that was the point that I wanted to make.
Neil to interrupt you. That was the point that I
wanted to make. So if we're being replaced with cheaper labor,
what's the real problem. What's the real problem? Is it capitalism?
Is that the real problem? Is that what we need
to talk about here, right?

Speaker 3 (36:43):
It is?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
But anyway, it is absolutely capitalism. And now there's two
ways of looking at this work. The first way that
you could look at this is that basically, if your
job has been taken off you by somebody who has
come over here attached to the bottom of a fucking truck,
who can't speak English, you need to level the fuck up, right,
you need to do better. Okay, if if somebody if

(37:06):
because here's the thing you're you're describing these people these
are I literate, these cr this, they can't do a shit,
or these are less quality people. If these less quality
people are taking your job, then you need to level up.
That's it, That's what you heavily implied. Anyway. But here's
the thing. You know, what would would would control that
something that you I'm absolutely positive you would be against

(37:29):
because it's capitalism. This is what we're talking about. We're
talking about unfed capitalism. So you know what would be better? Regulation? Regulation,
government oversight, social safety nets, aspects of what could be
called socialism. That would be the solution to all these
problems that you've presented. But the pope with the solution
that is presented is to shout at black people or

(37:51):
shout at Mexicans, which is really stupid. I also you
said that it's an anti white agenda and the Chinese
are not. Why again, that's quite telling, don like that.
That's really really strange that you are that focused on
genetic purity to the point where you would say that
a Chinese person is not fitting of your category of

(38:14):
this obviously superior like category. Why you said that they're
lazy and stuff like that, the blah blah blah blah blah.
Are you Also you also said that that you never
mentioned China indured because of their the the pollution that

(38:34):
they cause and stuff like that. You think we just
mentioned all the time. It's literally mentioned all the time.
Did you also know that China and India are both
basically trying to get to as huge They're putting immense
amount of money into renewable energy at the moment, so
so both points don't actually stack up. Right. Then you
went on to talk about UK arrests and stuff. I

(38:54):
presume that you talk about the riots where people were
arrested for hitting police men, threatening violence and saying things
like go down there and set fire to that, burn
the fuckers alive, you know, incitement to murder and things
like that. Do you do you do you not think
that incitement to murder should be punished by by the law.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I think that's what they That was their response to it,
and that's establishment that is going to say.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
No, no, it's not. That's what their tweet said, and
that's why they all pled guilty. There was again, this
is a bullshit argument, and do you know why those
riots happened? Do you know why those riots happened?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Getting off and that not being held account?

Speaker 2 (39:38):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Do you know what he was? It was a response
to a lie that was put around on the internet.
Three little girls were stabbed to death right by a
Welsh born Christian who happened to be black, and the
room was put around that this was a Muslim that
was fresh off the boats. That's why people tried to
kill asylum seekers because of a lie, not because of

(40:02):
any actual righteous indignation, because of false information, because of
a lie that was stoked up on purpose, so that
was simply not true. Also, all of those things that
you were talking about about, like the legitimate, the invading
of other people. You're saying invading is the wrong word,
but they are coming here, lowering the quality and stuff
like that, frighteningly similar to the stuff that Hitler was saying,

(40:25):
frighteningly similar. You then went on to excuse vicarious racism
that woman that basically called the little guy in en
word and blah blah bah and said, oh, this never happens.
Nobody's giving money to people who do terrible things. Such
a nonsense. Tommy Robinson's made his career off the back
of that. He's absolutely made his career off the back
of that. Vicarious racism is just a way for people

(40:46):
to be safely racist, because when they try and imitate
Elon Musk's Nazi salute at work, they get fired, So
they need a safe way to do it. That's what
they did. Like so giving money to somebody pretending that
it's a free speech issue when actually really I wanted
to say that. I wanted to say that, and now
I can give them money, and so I can kind

(41:07):
of say it to say that you like it, you
like it watching people's heads explode. That's really, really, really childish.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
That's really that's all we have at this point.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
We don't have any We don't have any real opposition. Opposition,
I mean, I mean, I don't know where to start
point yet.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Like you went on to say basically that all these
people coming from Haiti and stuff like that, they're poor.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
So they are, aren't they poor? So how are they
getting here? They're getting here on their own. How are
they paying for it? You don't think there's anything behind them?
I went travel.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
I addressed that you get on a Greyhound bus, or
you walk, or you get on a boat. You mean, actually,
I'll tell you for what Because this a guy I
used to know who in the nineties. He used to
drive lorry over to France. People you're paying fifty quids
to get in the back of his lorry and he'd
bring them over to England.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Poverty has never stopped people from crossing the border because
most people are an incredible poverty. Don I want you
to get your pointing.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
There's few more points, so just to sorry. Basically you're
saying that somebody wants it to happen right to a degree.
You're absolutely right. Again, it's capitalists.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
This is that resonates with that. That's absolutely and hear.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
The thing where where we were, I totally agree. We're
absolutely agree that the homelessness and the veterans are getting
nothing right. Okay, that's terrible. Okay, But here's the here's
the thing. Do you know how much money every weekend
it costs for Donald Trump to pay goal for his
own thing, how much tax paying money it costs over
twenty million dollars every weekend. That money could go towards veterans.

(42:51):
There is, but instead they make this issue. They play
it out as if well, it's this or this. I'm
afraid it's not. That's not the argument. That is an
argument that's used because it's sealacious, and it appeals to
some people because it instills this tribalistic attitude where basically
people can get together in a group of feel like
the superior ship on other people. And it's all it's

(43:15):
based on nonsense. It's based on absolute nonsense. The solutions
to all of these things, all of these problems that
you and I both agree about, the veterans, the over
use of cheap labor and such like that that the
solutions is socialism regulation. I think social safety nets. I

(43:36):
think you're right, would agree then meeting people like human beings.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Right, right, And and I think that's where we all agree.
I know, I mean, I don't know if he agrees
with socialism per se, but I know he agrees well,
capitalism creating a real problem.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
You mean by socialism, I mean socialism in the English term,
which is a safety that within the socialist.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Reform, right, we can have a bit of both. It's
not evil, right that The way it's been painted in
American society and in the West is that socialism is evil.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
It's socialism is communism, which is as all.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
The funny part about it is everyone, I want to say,
maybe there are a few exceptions, but everybody listening to
this now would immensely benefit from some socialist reform. Yep,
you know, and so we're arguing against our better interest
when when we argue in the other direction. Now, the
argument that Don made was, you know, they're bringing all

(44:38):
these people in because nobody wants to do this job,
these jobs at the prices I meant, at the wages
that they're being given. He's absolutely right. What's the problem.
What and it's being clouded with racism and a bunch
of other stuff. What is the problem here? The problem
is capitalism. The problem is they want to continue to

(44:58):
make more money at your expense. Every time you go
to work, you produce more work than they are paying you.
That is the essence of capitalism, exploitation, that is it.
It means to capitalize, you have to make more money,
you have to make a profit, and they're making it off.
A year back. We are the workers, ladies and gentlemen.

(45:19):
Don I'm throwing it over to you. Say whatever it
is you need to say.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
You know, and Neil needs to read my book Survival
the Riches City thinks I'm any defender of capitalism. Agree,
I'm a populist. I think that's a little bit different
than a socialist. I believe in the redistribution of wealth.
I would do it the way he long did it,
not for any government means. But the problem is, again,
this is not and you basically inferred I was a Nazi.
You inferred I was a racist. This is already you know,

(45:43):
and things are pejorit and those students mean nothing. Now
I don't care. I don't finish I mean everybody. I
don't care what anybody calls it. I really couldn't care less.
And more and more people don't care. It's ridiculous because
there just terms. When when you say sleep and birds
and band aids are racist, then I'm in good company.
I guess I don't care. It's a it's also all being.

(46:05):
But the problem is whatever the reality of situation is.
And you mentioned that there are non there, non white immigrants.
I mean they're white immigrants. Of course, they are the
Russians and uh, you know people like that that are
coming here legally and they're working us all pairs and
so forth. But the problem is the migrant situations. I'm

(46:29):
saying that's that's that's what the way it is. I mean,
that's what I've known a bunch of those. Again, this
this is there. I'm not, you know, installing them in
various places. I'm not pigeonholing them. That's the way it works.
But the problem is that when you look at this
situation in terms of the migrants, some were here, they're

(46:49):
seeking asylum and all this stuff. They always want to
seek asylum in places that were formally white, and that's
something like Ireland, why do they want to go Ireland?
That not a paradise.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
I mean this, yes, again, they're flooding places the the
this is the idea again to think that that's not
being done by design.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Otherwise, like I said, look at what's happening in South Africa.
And when I hear that south white South Africans are
farmers are having a pretty bad go of it. That
is racist.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
They are.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
I talked to people that live there. Let me get,
let me get it's so so victimized or it's racist.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
This is the problem saying you know, then we have
to get into another conversation, which a lot of people
here in the United States are not gonna gonna want
to have, right, because we can talk about that when
it comes to Europe, right, but when we talk to
the United States, like originally white, that is untrue this area, right,
it's not the case the Europeans came here, right, this

(48:03):
wasn't a white area, and and and and the United
States has never been solely white ever in the history
of the United States. It's never been a thing.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
The UK like this is bullshit again, this is this
is absolutely stop. Like the Romans brought people from Africa
and people from all sorts of places over to the
UK countries have always been melting pots for Christ say
these black characters in Shakespeare.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I mean, you're again, you're you're you're denying the reality
I see with my own life. I think I think America,
MI State terrified again.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
This is it's terrible.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
The majority of people today, white people today object to
what's going on. And I said, that's what that's why
that blonde mother is a millionaire. Now let him finish
this point because the backlash is coming eventually. People are
tired of this stuff and they're tired of people making
excuses for it. It is a coordinated plan. This isn't

(49:05):
a natural occurrence.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
To the point where they will.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Again, no again, you should try to get a job
in CNN, they probably welcome you. I mean, you're just misconstructed. Nobody,
nobody wants to say that. I'm saying that this woman
did something like that, and it's becoming a man because
people are fed up with the other side, with the side.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
There's a lot of It was a.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Direct response to Carmelo Anthony, the kid who stabbed a
white kid to death, and they've raised almost a million
dollars that's the exact response to it.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
How much how you that guy that struggled, the guy
on the sibway, how much should he get get? How
much should he get the guy that was that was
that was before that? I guess it was you right?

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Without this apparently triggered it right, nobody should be getting it.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
There shouldn't be any order getting it's ridiculous. So that
woman shouldn't be getting a million dollars for saying the word.
I'm just saying this again. This is this is a
direct response to the man. It is the same reason
why Trump still has supporters. The other side is so
that shit crazy that you're never going you're never going
to get the average person to believe that they're fifty

(50:25):
seven genders and that kind of nonsense. You're you're not
going to get to the politics. So there Trump is
their spokesman, as ridiculous as he is.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
And that's what the election, I'm becoming more and more
convinced was won by. It was won by people that
hate trans It was won by people that are are
a fundamentalist Christians and and and people that really want
a separatist Uh, what is it a way of life?
Not everyone not everyone that voted for Donald Trump. We're

(50:54):
not talking here in absolute, but I think that's what
one is. Everybody goes back to, oh but the trans
Oh but the trains. Oh but they're making little boys
into little girls in eight hours at school. And this
was far blown out of proportion, freaking trans story time,
Like this doesn't go on in school. That is all right,
It just doesn't, you know. But it's things that have

(51:16):
happened here and there in libraries or whatever, and it's
up to you to bring your kids there.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
You're not forced to, you know, to put the truths
behind that, you know. The one of the main things
that people got up in arms about was the fur
is the kids that identify as cats having litter trays
in the thing, Like, do you know what the actual
truth behind that is?

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Right?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Do you know why there's litter trays in school classrooms
in America? Because it's so likely that those children will
be shot and have to and seriously and have to
stay in a lockdown position while it's an active shooter
patrols the school that they need somewhere to be able
to piss so it doesn't stink the entire classroom up

(52:01):
now to me, that says something.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I don't know. I got it.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I got it from the facts. It is. It's true.

Speaker 3 (52:08):
I don't know what you're getting.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Up. You like to look it up. I mean, we
can do this if you really want to be embarrassed.
I think there's this story was spread by Joe Rogan.
That's why I know this to be true because Joe
Rogan then had to embarrassingly climbed back. He was the
one that said this crazy cat women and putting literally
in classrooms. You don't have to walk it back when

(52:31):
he realized that the reason that the cavaltor is left
in there is in case is an active shooter.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Why would they have to pee in letter boxes if there.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Because they're long in the classroom hanging down.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
You know what also doesn't make sense the.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Amount of fucking kids that die every loooking year in America.
But there you go.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
By other black kids in cities and nobody.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Let's let's listen. This is this is a dangerous This
is the dangerous part about all of this, right, And
Aaron Carpenter in the chat said it back, like they
just want to divide us here. If we're gonna if
we're gonna agree on something right and and to paint
were talking in very very general terms, like you said,

(53:18):
all whites, I mean, the majority of whites are fed
up with this ship. I I am friends with tons
of white people.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
It's not.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
But this is the language that we use. And I'm
guilty of it too, to talk in absolutes and and
talking and give give a like saying oh, the majority
of this or the majority of that, like if we
don't have the evidence for that, we shouldn't cite that.
I'm guilty of it too. We we do that all
the time. Most people that I come across want to
be uh happy, and they want to learn from one

(53:53):
another and and just be cool.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Man.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
And there our friend John Bristom, Billy Ray, he says,
teacher and Niels, it's a bull.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Crap, it is, what's bull crap? What is? I don't
even know what he's talking about.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
I think he's talking about the litter boxes. I would imagine.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
Again, even even if if it's the litter box instance,
these are very small, isolated things that get but they're
blown up.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
They're triggering thegger.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
The forefront because they get blown up out of proportion.
That's why because they're gonna be triggering, so they get
us all to chase it when in reality it's not
it's not that much of a of a problem as
if they're making it out to be, and it's it's
grown to a point where we're here now, you know,
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
I found it. Okay, if you want, just people can
just look it up. Look the kids. The kitten is
not for cats identified it's very little things. It started
after the colum bin and shooting. They've been stockpiling small
amounts of cat litter, according to m faciliates, because they

(55:03):
need to prepare emergency go boockets for lockdowns in case
of school shootings or other emergencies. I think you only
are fucking apologies on It's.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Well, first, I don't believe anything NBC, the other mainstream
they say, no credibil money.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I don't you know from the source that you you trust.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Why you just had you just had a teacher that said,
that's not true, that's not that's not legit.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
That's something I.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Found immediately found a Denver Post article and a Yahoo article,
and I just read to you from the Yahoo article.
It's purpose, he said when Lauren Burbert brought it up
in school and when Joe Roger mentioned it and and
how it was connected to this concept of furies and
people identifying as cats. But actually it was a protocool
that was put in place to give children a toilet

(55:52):
in case there were locked down in the case of
active shooters after Columbine m My point is that that
is the entire point all of this stuff that you've
been talking about in Ireland, all this stuff that you've
been talking it's as legitimate as that, and you believe
it as much as you believe that cap litter story.
People need to start checking stories a lot more.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Every people that are actually involved in it. When people
are experiencing firsthand, I believe that I'm I'm not.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Believe is your purpose. But that's not called facts. That's
called an echo chamber. John, That's what we're you' exactly explained.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
That's where we're at, unfortunately, and and we no one
trusts anything anymore. Uh they don't. And I said, I
think it was just last week on American plug Man,
but it emphasizes that it's a which way reality game
that we're playing here. You know, which way do you
want to go? You know ahead?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I mean, something I wanted to mention before is about
the thing Donald Trump and all the stupid things that
he's doing, is the one hope is that what he's
doing is actually just deadcatting it or flooding the zone
with shit. Just throw stuff down, throw stuff down, throw
stuff down, like the heavieas corpus, things like the deportations

(57:12):
of people for having a crown tattooed on him and
stuff like that. What people really need to be looking
at is the corruption that he's doing in regards to
things like meme coins, bitcoin, access to the presidency, a
manipulation of the stock market. You're going out on Twitter
and you're saying it's a good time to buy stop
now twenty minutes before, like announcing tariffs that made people

(57:33):
the hedge flow managers, people like Scott Bessing and stuff
like that, who used to work for Saurs, which used
to be a really bad thing that is now being ignored.
If you buy a sufficient amount of his mean coin,
you get access to him and you are able to
lobby in him in a way that it has never
really been done before. It wasn't done, no, it was

(57:55):
part of a protocol, and the story was fake. The
story was just bullshit in there since the nineties stock
files of catletter. Someone made it up in the same
way that someone made up pizzagate or any of these
other things, all eating cats and dogs and stuff like that.
It's just bullshit. It's just red meat for the red tops.
As they would say in the UK.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
All right, I know what you mean. This is the
red meat that's tossed out there for us to chase,
and we've been chasing it. And I've been trying to
say for the longest the time. Please let's stop chasing it.
I'm guilty of chasing it too. We need to read,
don't don't just read the headline. It's funny because we
talk about not trusting the mainstream media, but every point

(58:38):
of information that you get, you get it out of
the mainstream media. You just don't really know it, you know.
But everything that's going around has its roots there, right,
So in one way or another, you trust the mainstream media,
you know, especially if it's if it's a story that
you resonate with, You're like, yeah, look at this one,
you know. But that's where we are. We read a

(58:58):
headline or we listen to thirty seconds on Instagram, and
that's where it is, rather than digging and digging and digging,
which is what you kind of have to do to
get to the core, to the bottom of it. Sometimes
not even that, just read the entire article, you know, like, oh,
this is what happened, you know, But I understand I
am guilty of it myself. Listen, what an episode, My goodness,

(59:21):
golly god. And next time, let's let's have you know
a little bit more I don't know, not talking all
over each other. And we do that, like I I
you know, I've been accused of it, so let's let's
try not to do that. But I think some things
were fleshed out here. Listen, if anybody's gonna take anything
from this man, this alt right shit, this fucking h

(59:44):
you know, white suprema shit that you know, we got
to back off of that. We really need to, because
that those are the elements, the ingredients to spark a
freaking war, you know, and that's what they're trying to fuel.
And the same on the other side. I understand that
that it was the alt right is a reaction to

(01:00:05):
the to the to the far left right that they
feed each other, right, they feed each other so. But
but right now what we have in office is undeniably
the far right, the conspiratorial right, and people that resonate
with literal uh skinheads and and and ku klux Klan

(01:00:26):
members vote for Donald Trump. They they they I just
Chris Buckham in the Chack said he wanted to be
a separatist. These are the people that that we're dealing
with here. Hey, I admire your honesty. At least I
don't know if you would say that to people to
their face. Probably, and and you know what, don't I
don't want you to get into that type of problem. Okay,
so just keep being a keyboard warrior. But but at

(01:00:49):
least he's honest about it here. I don't know. I
don't have the solutions to this. We're gonna continue to
have these conversations, Lord Willing, but I would I to
implore everybody to just use common sense when it comes
to some of this shit, because they're trying to trigger
us this great replacement thing. It's bullshit. It's bullshit, right,

(01:01:13):
So many of these things are absolutely you know, Pizzagate
was utter bullshit, man. And I went down that rabbit hole, bro,
I was going through all of the you know, and
I never fully subscribed, but I was like, could this
be real? What the hell is going on? I remember
watching Marty leads this Documentaryanni and I hit up Marty.
I'm like, dude, what are you doing? What is this about?
You know, because I wanted to know, you know, And

(01:01:35):
and I'm like, damn, man, I was led down a
freaking rabbit hole chasing a carrot that was never there,
you know. And I came to find that out way
later after the fact, unfortunately, well not that later, but
late enough. All of these things are are I don't
know where they're coming from, but we can make intelligent

(01:01:58):
speculation and that they're but but it's not true. And
the conspiracies that are true, we don't want to look
at them. That's what I don't understand. That's what I
don't understand, you know. The conspiracies that are real and
that we can prove and that we have evidence for,
we want to have nothing to do with it. We'd

(01:02:20):
rather talk about clone Joe Biden, you know, or or adrenochrome,
you know, or pizza or the Dems being freaking shape
shifting reptilians, you know, or shit like that that we
can't prove one way or another. Even if it's true,
what does it service. We can't prove it. We can't
prove it, so please, I don't know it's America plan.

(01:02:43):
We're gonna We're gonna keep trucking. Don Jeffries, admirable job today,
trying to prove your point. We disagree on a lot
of things, you and I, it didn't start out that way,
but we can agree on one thing. The core of
this freaking issue is the money. It is the money.
Somebody said in the chat that it's people with greed

(01:03:06):
and and and lust and all this other stuff, not capitalist.
I'm like, that's the definition of capitalism, is greed. It
is the definition of you know, not to say that
it doesn't have some some positive things about it. We
should we should not be placed in a box. We
should be able to pick what's best from everything and
create a system that benefits us as people, not the

(01:03:29):
elite off our backs, brainwashing us into thinking that we're
doing something for us. That's not that's not what we
need to be doing. Survival of the Richest excellent book.
Don Jefferies. Tell the people where they can find you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
I first, I just want to make a point. First,
there are many of us that don't believe pizza gate
has been debunked, and that that was excellent. An exclamation
point was brought home very recently. I don know if
you heard about the guy that shot up brought in
the gun to commet to pizza, the comet ping pong.
He was shot and killed by the cops, you know,

(01:04:01):
a very kind of a routine thing. So that just
kind of again, why these people continue believe these things.
There's always these kinds of rabbit holes to go down.
People can find me on sub sects the Only Play
Something Not Shadow band, Donald Jefferies at subseack dot com.
I protest just like my UH.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Podcast Fantastic fantastic Uh Jason T. Barrett Jackson T Barrett
in the chat he loves me. I'm convinced he always
comes and talks to shit about me every week. But
you show up every week, bro, Like, what's your infatuation
with me? Man? Stop listening to me, you know. But

(01:04:37):
but hey, thank you, thank you exactly. We appreciate you.
Neil Sanders, my god, how are you, sir? Thank you
for coming on. Thank you. We we need to have
more live conversations about this sort of stuff and literally
show the proof, right, you and me will we'll we'll

(01:04:59):
sit there and or you can bring whoever you want
and we will show the documented evidence for a lot
of this stuff. It's up to people to accept it
or not, and a lot of people won't because they
don't believe anything that they don't want to believe. But
we should do our part at the very least. Neils Andrews,
you know, I think you're fantastic man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
It's fantastic too. It's very seductive, very very seductive to
be put into a position where you can look down
on people. The world is incredibly difficult and hard, and
there's no manual, and every time you're doing something, this
is the first time you've ever done it right. Okay,
at this age, there's no instructions. And because of that,

(01:05:40):
it is really really seductive to hate other people and
just feel that other people are inferior to you, because
it gives you a tiny, tiny glimpse of power. Okay.
And so poor people need to stop letting rich people
manipulate them into hating foreign people, because it's just as
simple as that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
I don't disagree with that. Man. My name is Billy
Ray Valentine. It's Mother's Day tomorrow here in the States.
I'm assuming I don't know, is it is a Mother's
Day over by You'll give me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
A fucking heart attack. Then, no, it's not. It was
the other week. Jesus, ohtho, God's Christ.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
So say hello to your mama, you know, give her
a hug and a kiss if she's still around. If
she's not, say a prayer for her, you know. So,
I I will probably not be live tomorrow night, and
we've been having issues with the stream and all that.
What's new. I might pre record something for Ground zero
Radio that I might do later today, but but I'm

(01:06:39):
gonna be out with my mama, you know, and my
wife who's a mama, and my mom and my wife's mama,
you know. So it's I am fortunate enough to still
have all of them in my life, and I appreciate
the hell out of you know, my mom was responsible
for putting me onto Naibukelle. I knew about him before
most Americans because of my mother. She had a different

(01:07:01):
take on him than I do. But still, you know,
so it's it's it's just a nice holiday to pay
tribute to your mom. You know, and I realize that
not all our mamas are here, but love my mama,
love all the moms in my life and everybody that's
listening that's a mom. Congrats to you, and uh, if
I know you, I'll probably hit you up tomorrow. My

(01:07:22):
name is Billy ray Valentyne America Unpluged twelve pm Eastern
every Saturday on Tony's ex shouts to Tony rdburn on
Don's X and on Don's YouTube channel. They love me
on Dom's YouTube channel. I've never seen so much love
for me over on Don's YouTube channel. I love all
of you guys, sincerity, I really doo uh and the

(01:07:43):
Infinite Fringe dot pibeam dot com. I don't really update
that too much anymore, but maybe I'll start putting up
the episodes that I do for Ground zero Radio up there.
It will be something different, but I might do that.
There are still people that listen to that feed, so
fantastic props to both of you. Don, Thank you. I
appreciate you, uh and and Don Neil, thank you. I

(01:08:04):
appreciate you for for bringing what you bring to the table.
We've read the documents, twisted Wheezy, what's going on? Uh,
and we'll see you guys later, all right, bye bye,
and we're still on the air. We're still on the air.
We're still on the air.