The Razzle Stack Part ONE - A Far Right Ruckus With Knickerless Funtimes - Some Dare Call It Conspiracy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So they are calling conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to some darcolic conspiracy with Brentlee and Neil Sanders.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
As the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia, we thought
someone really should keep a record of this decline so
that when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of
civilization they might be able to see where it all
went wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is the world according to some or as.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
All the hepcats are calling it. Twat. So you've been
a wisely staying off the internet still a little bit
like you've not been sort of paying attention. Well, there
was what we would describe. I'm rather terminally online anymore, no,
no like, which is probably probably the best way to be.

(00:58):
But you know, we content, so what you're going to do.
So one of the things that I was noticing is
that there's a whole sort of raft of grifters and
right wing commentators and stuff like that, and they tend
to interact in various different ways. Now this is going
to be about a certain group of them that appear

(01:20):
to be having an argument, and the whole point of
this particular episode, we'll see how long it goes on
for might be several, but is to just point out
that these people are despite their sort of outward personas
they don't believe in anything. They do not believe in anything,
or if they do believe anything, they're willing to sort
of give massive concessions to their beliefs if they themselves

(01:45):
can profit, either monetarily or through some sort of you know,
some other way that they can benefit. These people, they
have no loyalty. They don't even stick to the truth.
They'll contradict themselves again and again and again. It's all
about generating outrage and giving people a platform and an

(02:06):
outlet for yes, I want to say that thing, which
is usually something very very nasty and unpleasant racist. But
the other thing about all of these people, as they
tend to couch this in a degree of intellectualism, well,
they're the stupid man's thinking person. Essentially, all of these people, well,
actually that's that's probably not true. They're the stupid Man's

(02:28):
not as stupid man as the stupid man. That's probably better.
And essentially a group of them were arguing and I thought, oh,
this is great because it turns into a fabulous bitch
fest and soap opera. But we're go First off, we're
going to have to explain this term, like, this is

(02:49):
what we would someday I call it conspiracy, would call
a razzle stack. Now a lot of people, particularly foreign listeners,
might not know what a razzle stack kids, So just
to explain, they probably just don't know what is well exactly, Yeah,
razzl Razzell was a magazine that featured pornography. It was

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not a particularly high cost or high quality magazine. Certainly
wasn't up there with your hustlers or your playboys. It
was deemed to be a little bit grubbier and grottier, more.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Of like a housewives kind of the thing.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, there did a lot of that readers. There
was a lot of readers wives. There was a lot
of photographic photo shoots in like car parks and things
like that, and just you know, in really grotty flats
and stuff like that. But but razzle they had a gimmick,
shall we say, which was called a razzlestack. And what
this would be would be where several young women would

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position themselves one on top of the other, making what
would appear to be a ladder of genitalia. And so
we have used the word razzle start to describe. I
don't know, people like the political Party Reform or the
band Coldplay. A razzalstak is essentially a massive pile of cunts,

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and this is essentially what we're going to be talking about.
This is the most recent right wing razzlestack ruckus and
it involves several people who This just gives us an
opportunity to explore their characters and their backgrounds, see if
there's any contradictions or anything like that, and also just
enjoy the fact that they're all bitching at each other. Now,

(04:31):
before we start, we're not stupid. We do understand how
this sort of millieaure works. They all work together, they
all have a go at each other, they mention each
other on Twitter, they start arguments and it's mutually beneficial.
Two of these people go on one show and have
to go at a third person, a fourth person gets involved,

(04:53):
and all this is doing is really building their brand.
So we're not blind to this. We understand how this works.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's a bit like early two thousands hip hop, whereas
all kind of the beef was fabricated Yeah a lot of.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
The time, yes, yeah absolutely, or if it is just
on wax, shall we say so, Yeah, it's just on Wax.
But again, this just goes to show how sort of
disingenuous these people are, because again, they've all been colleagues,
they've all been allies, but they will all roll and
turn on each other and try and out do and
backstab each other at the drop of a dime essentially,

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or a drop of a hat is the expression dropping
of a dime is to phone the police, isn't it.
Well either way, there's an element of that in here
as well, but we'll get to that. So there's several characters.
The main character that was involved in this was a
gentleman that we've mentioned on the podcast several times before.
He's a sort of rising figure of the right wing.

(05:52):
He's currently basically bitching out Alex Jones. Alex Jones on
Info Wars is desperately trying to pull on the cachet
of this guy. But this involves him being a Nazi
and being anti Semitic, because that's what this guy is.
This we're talking, of course, of Nicholas Jy Fuentes, Nicholas Fuentes,

(06:13):
who we won't be mentioning by his real name throughout
the thing because we discovered that his name sounds a
lot like Nicholas fun Times, So we're going to be
calling him Nicholas fun Times the fun sized Fascist throughout
this because he's just a laughable character. Really, just to
give you an impression of Nick. This is one of

(06:34):
the things that brought him to the world's attention. He
had a blog post which was aptly described the villain
America needs, and this is his own words. My timely
birth in nineteen ninety eight allowed me to watch on
the nightly news the spoils of the American experiment squandered
for one final time before the dying gasp of a

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once exceptional people as the free world and economic abundance
of Ronald Reagan was inherited by the Lizard people to
understand how far the country has come before the virgin
constitution or republic born of the Revolution, to the corrupt,
unitary technocracy of a new status century. From George Washington
to George w. Bush, everyone knows the country is going

(07:16):
to hell, and if you don't, then you're a liberal
apologist arguing why the change your president promised you is
all that it was cracked up to me. My generation
is the generation of hopelessness. They don't see it that
way because BuzzFeed can use upbeat stock background music, punchy graphics,
and a self righteous punk weakling to dress up cultural
suicide as egalitarianism. But we know better. With George W. Bush,

(07:41):
we've got a neo conservative utopian who could not wage
the culture war when a center right w collapsed in
two thousand and eight. We've got a communist Islamist sympathizer
whose entire candidacy in governance was wholly founded on the
ignorance of the masses, and a media that were just
playing live night after night. And in twenty fifteen, it

(08:01):
looked as though we would have the proverbial more of
the same, lesser of two evils, business as usual. Twenty
sixteen looked to be a grand augy of Stockholm syndrome
induced cultural cook holdery, in which we, the free men
and women of the United States of America, would grudgingly
but unflinchingly elect our third bumbling conservative Bush height Bush Light,

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or our second white trash criminal Clinton. Having spent the
entire century being blown up by the IEDs in the desert,
the worst economy since the Great Depression, the largest government
in the history of the world, fragrant lawlessness at the
highest level, an invasion from the South and from the
Mid East, an education system infiltrated and conquered decades ago

(08:45):
by Marxists, a Bill of rights in peril by the
death of actual conservative Supreme Court justice, the last soul
in the way of the loss of the republic, a
terror state, a new Cold War, a billion people saying
they own the ocean, more dollars in debts than ats
in the universe. Seth Rogan, boys of girls and girls
of boys. Facts are racist, feminism, infanticide. As a right tumbler,

(09:10):
he reminds me of the character Rick from The Young Ones,
you know, the people's poet. But any so, I all
that to the end he did that was you know,
he's a good speaker and evident he could write a
paragraph or two, but he did somewhat lose it towards

(09:31):
the end. But never mind. So, Nick Fuentes is a
white supremacist, And some might find that a little strange
because Nicholas Fwentis was born in August nineteen ninety eight
in Chicago to William and Lauren to William and Lauren Fuentes,
and his mother's maiden name is Chico Now some of

(09:53):
you might notice that Spanish name isn't it Yes, yes
it is. Nick is half Mexican and his mother is
an Italian immigrant or from an Italian immigrant family. The
white supremacist. Now, some of you might be saying, but surely, Neil,
this is just a classic case of somebody projecting their
only inadequacies and self loathing onto the zeitgeist. It's like, well, yes,

(10:18):
probably fundies.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Living in.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Lagrange Park, Illinois and went to Lyons Township High School,
where he was the president of the student council. He
studied introducting international relations and politics during his freshman year
at Boston University, but unfortunately dropped out in twenty seventeen.
Do you know where he dropped out, Brent. What happened
was he was a very prominent figure at the Unite
the Right rally in Charlottesville, despite being only quite young

(10:47):
at the time. I think he was about eighteen something
like that. He was really sort of like made his
mark there. And so he claimed that he basically got
a load of death threats, and so he had to
drop out and transferred to a different university, but to
one good Oburn, And he said that he didn't mind

(11:07):
because it had better, wealthier and ultimately better people. But
ultimately he didn't actually bother going through it. So the
interesting thing about Nick is that he comes from sort
of internet culture, and so a lot of what he
says is couched in that. It's it's the kind of

(11:28):
culture where the white power thing, you know, the idea
of the okay symbol being synonymously it is and it isn't.
It's a joke that the whole sort of thing is
built of in jokes that are related to anime and
internet memes and culture like that. And what Fuentez does

(11:48):
is he identifies himself as an inceel, an involuntary celibate.
But he's actually got shit off some of his fans
because they say that, actually, you're completely voluntarily celebrate because
you admitted to once kissing a girl at school. But
Nick would basically describe himself as an inceel. He would

(12:12):
also describe himself as the straightest guy in the world,
which is something that straight people definitely do. He also
tried to defend himself as an insult by basically by
saying the only really straight heterosexual position is to be

(12:33):
an asexual in cell because having sex with a woman
is gay. He went on to explain what's gayer than
being like I need kuddles, I need kisses, I need
to spend time with a woman, but also at different times.
Is also stated that the optimal age for a wife

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is sixteen, which, as he had an explanation for this,
He said that sixteen is right where the milk is good,
which is not something. He said that age sixteen is
ideal for him as an age for a wife because
that's right when the milk is good and he wants

(13:14):
a fertile womb and a childlike innocence, which again.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
There's some serious fucking red flags going on here.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Do you think I mean this is there's somebody that's
terrified of women. Clearly, like just that I thought they.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Knew stuff about Nicholas Winters, but I did not know this.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Oh, there's going to be lots. Twenty is basically he
began commentating on politics through local radio and TV and
this was actually hosted by his high school, and he
was fairly sort of just like mainstream conservative. He's actually
a really good debater. To give him his due, there's
some audio footage of him debating somebody, and yeah, he's

(14:01):
really good. He knows his stuff. He can definitely sort
of you can see why he's successful in the field
that he does because he is a good orator, and
he also seems to have sort of no shame, which
is always good if you're trying to debate. So he

(14:21):
started America First with Nicholas Jay Francais, and this began
in twenty seventeen, and this was about the same time
that he was getting involved in Charlottesville. America First is
taken from Old Fascist, the Fascist Party of America. It's
overtly fascist. That's Nick's bag. He's a white supremacist despite

(14:44):
being half Mexican. He's desperately opposed to LGBT people despite
you know, and basically he started this website to talk
about politics and started moving further and further right. The
thing is that, because we've mentioned, because he comes from

(15:06):
this internet sort of crowd, a lot of it can
be sort of plausible deniability. It's just owning the libs.
It's like, you know, for the lulls and stuff like that.
There is this thing where basically it used to be
called post diary essentially like I don't mean that how
completely in the opposite, but This is also used as

(15:26):
a tactic to hide some really really grim ideas or
to publicize and popularize some really grim ideas. So in
April twenty seventeen, on his new burgeoning show, Fwentis asserted
that Muslim speech was not covered by the First Amendment,
and he went on to say, who runs the media, Globalists,

(15:49):
And now it's time to kill the globalists. And I
want all the people that run CNN to be arrested
and deported or hanged because this is deliberate. And this
got him me to bother basically, like the publisher at
the show at the time is called Right Side Broadcasting Network,
and this basically got him kicked off that particular platform.

(16:11):
What he actually said was the First Amendment was not
written for Muslims, by the way. It wasn't written for
a barbaric ideology that wanted to come over and kill us.
It was written for Calvinists. It was written for Lutherans
and Catholics, not for Sallaphists, not for we Harvests, not
for the Saudi royal family. Don't think the founders had
that one in mind. And it also was intended for citizens,

(16:31):
not for immigrants. The irony if the First Amendment protected
everyone's rights to have their religion and express it in
every country. We'd have our police in the Congo or
in Uganda fighting against the lord's assistance army. And you
never hear that side of the story on the mainstream media.
And why not? Why don't we ever hear about it?
Why did none of our elected officials talk about this
or like this? They know it's true. Why don't we

(16:54):
hear about it on the mainstream media? We don't hear
about it on Fox News, by the way, and why not?
So later he actually admitted this. In February twenty twenty two,
he said that he was fired by the actual CEO
of the company, Joe Seals. He went on to co
host a podcast called The Nationalist Review with a white

(17:18):
nationalist called James Alsup, and he continued doing this until
January twenty eighteen. Now, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center,
the two had a public falling out, with each host
accusing the other of laziness, impropriety, and a variety of
petty slights that might become a theme with this person
and other people in his orbit, but you know, we'll see.

(17:41):
Also in twenty eighteen, he spoke at the American Renaissance Conference,
which was nothing to do with the Renaissance, can you Believe?
In July twenty twenty two, twenty Has appeared on the
panel for the podcast Modern Day Debate and the topic
was is there a war on men? And decided that yes, yes,
there absolutely is. Now he had some interesting arguments to

(18:06):
suggest why there was a war on men now. Usually
people would potentially say suicide rates. That's one thing that
I've heard, Like people say, oh, suicide rates, or disproportionate
divorce proceedings, or access to children, maybe something like that.

(18:27):
That was not what Nick decided to go with. Do
you want to have a guess at one of the
one of the main arguments that he had for men
being under threat from this.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
War gay actors.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
That's not bad, that's not bad, but not entirely. He
said that the higher rate of autism diagnoses in men
is evidence of a plot by the liberal elite to
make men and I quote retarded through socialization, and also
that basically it was clear to him that women are
and I quote inherently stupider and more sinful than men now.

(19:08):
Franchis then claimed that he would never want a woman
doing any high qualified job, even if she was more
qualified than all the men, to the point where he
said he would rather get taken out and shot in
the head than treated by a female doctor. He also
went on to basically say that men have the rights
to beat to rate their wives because the Bible gives

(19:30):
them authority over women. So he's a class act. Now again,
a lot of this basically there was the argument against.
It would be one of two things, Yeah I believe that,
or this stupid idiot doesn't get the joke. Yeah, we
see you. In twenty twenty four, he said, I totally

(19:50):
see myself accidentally killing my wife because I just get mad.
You know, will be like years into a marriage and
I'm going to be angry about something. It's going to
be a little too hot in the hair. It's going
to be one of those days where I haven't slept
all night, i haven't eaten in a day, so I'm
like in the worst possible mood, and she's going to
say something and I'm going to just accidentally kill her.

(20:11):
I'm just going to hit her, and she's going to
hit her head on the counter, and she's not just
going to die, She's going to say something. I'm going
to lose control. I'm going to blast her. And no, no,
I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. These are just jokes. I
would never put my hand on anyone. I'm a lover.
I don't attack people, but women do piss me off

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a lot. In May twenty twenty three, a post on Telegram,
Winter's decided to state, when I began my career in
twenty seventeen, I was considered radioactive in the American right
for my white, identitarian, race realist, Jewish aware, counter zionist, authoritarian,

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traditional Catholic views. And he now seems to have basically
found his audience. He has a huge following on Twitter.
And how's this thing called the Groeper Army. Have you
have you heard of this?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I have, yeah, of course, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
The groupers basically they're basically just his fanboys and stuff
like that. If only Grouper is one of the Pepe memes,
There were different versions of Pepe, and Grouper was one
of them, and that's where they took their name from.
And which was another you know, symbol of the sort
of far right meme culture Kekistan and all hail kek

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and things like that. Basically, the group is they see
their role as preserving white European American identity and culture.
Like they claim that mainstream conservatives are just as responsible
as liberals and the left of the destruction of white America.
And they see themselves and they're racist and anti Semitic

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beliefs as the true future of the conservative movement. And
to a degree like they are making inroads with this,
which is the frightening aspect of it. Like, you know,
he is on Twitter again. Elon Musk has allowed him
back on Twitter. He's a very regular guest on info
Wars now to the point where Alex is basically pandering

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to him. It's a shame really. Now. One thing that's
interesting is that him and his followers, they're not massive
fans of Donald Trump. They basically object to his seeming
a brace of Israel and what they describe as his
support for endless wars, which I mean, to be fair,
there is an argument to be made about at least

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one of those points. They feel that he isn't actually
America first, and they think that he puts Israel first
in twenty twenty four in July when his voice is
criticism of Trump ahead of the president presidential election by
saying if Trump isn't based on immigration, Israel, white identity,
or Christianity, then what is it all for? Another right

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wing outlet that the Groupers and Fuentes are massively not
keen on is Turning Point USA and it's founder Charlie Kirk.
Basically Charlie Kirk accused them of betraying Donald Trump, and
they basically said that they don't like this support for

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legal immigration, foreign ad for Israel, and what they describe
as support for queer issues. Orthough're not positive that Turning
Point USA is that interested in LGBTQ issues at all,
really other than trying to stifle them. And throughout October
November twenty nineteen, the groupers turned up and basically like

(23:46):
harassed Charlie Kirk, and they also tried to get into
some of their conferences and basically just cause a fuss.
And you know, fair enough, they also don't like Shapiro.
Can you guess why?

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, I know whether it Yeah,
that's the thing. There's lots of good reasons to not
like Ben Shapiro, and they choose the one reason that
it isn't justifiable, basically the fact that he, as you say,
he's Jewish. In December of twenty nineteen, Frents approached Ben Shapiro,

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who's walking with his wife and young children outside a
Turning Point event in Florida, and basically apparently Shapiro had
attacked fwent Is in a speech that he had given at
Stanford University, and so Fuentes decided to try and get
back at him. And through this they basically built a

(24:49):
huge sort of following of people that are like things,
bastards aren't racist enough for me, I want a half
Mexican guy to lead a in the real strive for
white supremacy. So anyway, in twenty twenty twenty, Is founded
the nonprofit America First Foundation, and this is the financial

(25:12):
backbone of his America First movement. According to the aff website,
its mission is to champion the role of God in society.
I'm holding the principles of nationalism, Christianity, and traditionalism. And
if a lot of you are thinking, oh, that sounds
remarkably like Nazis, well, you're right now. The AFF supports

(25:35):
several of twenty's ventures, including the annual America First Political
Action Conference or alf Pack as the kids on this
street are calling it. They also make films and do
reports and things like that. So the second annual half
Pack event in February twenty twenty one, Speaking Nicholas hosted it,

(25:58):
but unfortunately, later that month he was barred from the
High Agency Orlando where he attempted to start a commotion
on the Seapac floor. So this is the Conservative Political
Action Committee. He was also removed from Seapack in July
twenty twenty one for harassing a journalist, and so he
decided to set up an event across the street and

(26:21):
he did a speech and basically he said at this speech,
I'm banned from Twitter. I have nothing to lose. This
is going to be the most racist, sexist, anti Semitic,
holocaust denying speech in all of Dallas this weekend. So,
you know, bold claims, But again, what they're saying, what

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they're trying to do is say get attention through through
ravel rousing and basically like causing a fuss. Do you
know who attended the third annual Half Pack event? In
February twenty twenty three, Roger Stone, oh Close, Marjorie Taylor Green,

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the US Yeah, the US representative. Now interestingly, a lady
called Janice mcgeechen, who was a lieutenant governor of Idaho,
also appeared at the event, but this was actually by
video link, and this was massively criticized by people such
as Mitt Romney basically saying, what the hell are you

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doing going to a conference put on by an avowed
white nationalist, and Marjorie Taylor Green lied and said that
she had no idea who the organizers of the conference were.
In June twenty twenty four, twenters and far right influencer
Jake Shields were prevented from attending the Turning Point event

(27:51):
in Detroit, and at the same time after PAC twenty
twenty four sadly didn't go ahead because the venue canceled
it so they had to or did go ahead, but
not of the original venue. They had to at the
very last minute get a new venue. But it turned

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out to be all right because David Duke, the formerly
of the Ku Klux Klan, decided to make an appearance
as a special guest. Again gives you an indication of
the type of politics and ideology that Nick has. Fantis
was also very prominent. Is one of the fire our

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individuals who participated in both the rallies that led up
to the January sixth Capitol Building attack. But also he
was there on the day and he was using a bullhorn,
and he was basically prior to this, he'd led a
crowded chance and destroy the GOP and also encouraged them

(28:57):
to sit out the runoff election in Jue. So his
influence is sort of growing. And also in December of
twenty twenty, he received a huge amount of money, which
basically he got thirteen and a half bitcoin, which was
about just under seven hundred thousand dollars, And it was

(29:18):
a bait. There's a bit of a sort of who
are about where this came from? Apparently this came from
this guy in France. We'll talk a bit about it later,
but it came from this guy in France who developed
some sort of terminal disease, was very very wealthy and
decided to disseminate all his crypto fortune to various people
that he wanted to promote certain ideologies throughout the world,

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and you know, fun Times was one of those. So
two days before the storming of the US Capital, Fuente
has discussed killing state legislators who were unwilling to overturn
the results of the election, saying, what can you and
I do to a state legis besides kill them? We

(30:02):
shouldn't do that. I'm not advising that, but I mean,
what else could you do? Right now? According to a
lot of media outlets, Francis was actually part of the
mob that attacked the Capitol building. Now for a long time,
there was a video that was floating around of Baked
Alaska fucking around with the phones. Baked Alaska is another

(30:23):
far right influencer, and he was pissing around with the
phones in Nancy Pelosi's office, and there was a guy
in a hat in the background that everyone took to
be Nick fuenttense because he looked very very similar. That
wasn't Nick. Nick was actually outside, but questions have been
raised because he appears to be when what a VIP

(30:45):
badge for some reason? So why Nick Colespenos was given
VIP status at the Remember it was at the beginning
of a speech by Trump and various people connected to
the Trump administration, and he didn't enter the bill, but
he is on film bull horning and encouraging people to

(31:06):
take the capital back, keep moving towards the capital, to
disregard the police, and that's strange. Basically, he shouted, we
just heard that Mike Pence is not going to reject
any frauding elective votes. That's right, you heard it here first.
Mike Pence has betrayed the United States of America. Mike

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Pence has betrayed the president, and he has betrayed the
people of the United States of America. I will never
ever forget. Another clip shows him basically encouraging rioters to
storm the US Capitol. He said, keep moving towards the capital.
It appears we are taking the capital. Keep marching and
don't relent, never relent, break down the barriers, and disregard

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the police. These politicians don't represent us. They betrayers, and
now we are forcibly evicting them from the people's house.
They should live in fear of the American people who
have betrayed who they have betrayed over and over again.
He went on to say, we're witnessing potentially the beginning
of the Second American Revolution, and this revolution could take

(32:16):
place and I hope bloodlessly, or it can take place
another way. But either way, this American revolution must take
place because our sovereignty and constitution in our country have
been stolen from us. Trump supporters are the only people
in this country who back the Blue, but the Blue
does not back us, so we're done backing them. And

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then he celebrated the rioters overrunning the police lines and
breaking into the building by shouting, look at that, we've
taken over the Capitol Building. Say goodbye, Say goodbye to
the Capitol police. In another clip, twenties told the mob
not to leave the Capitol Building until Trump was inaugurated,
which means basically until he was legally made president. Fwentis said,

(33:04):
we've just got word that they've stopped the vote of
the Electoral College in Congress. I say that we should
not leave this capital until Donald Trump is inaugurated president.
Don't let them dissuade you. I see no reason why
anybody should be leaving these capital grounds anytime soon. I
don't care if the police come in, they'll have to
come in with tanks and fighter jets. Because this is
the United States of America. I would rather have my

(33:27):
sovereignty and my freedom, give me liberty or give me death.
Liberty or death. We're going to storm the Capitol building
right now, come with me.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Some have seen that as encouraging the crowd to raid
the Capitol building. I wonder why, because that's essentially what
he did. You want to know what push, Yeah, jud
to know what punishment Nicholas fun Times received for said
encouragement for people to stay on the grounds, break into
the buildings, disregard the police, break down the police's barriers.

(34:01):
Do you want to know what.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Punishment he received as much as Donald Trump has.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Exactly nothing, absolutely nothing. A lot of people thought that
was quite suspicious, and we will come to that in a.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Bit of those people right now, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I mean, it certainly is strange that because you know,
other people certainly seemed to get more punishment for less encouragement.
And also, here's the interesting thing in the conspiracy world,
the take on the January sixth is that it was
an inside job encouraged by the Feds, essentially, like people

(34:42):
either dressing up as Antia for all bad actors, encouraging
people to into the trap of going into the Capitol
building to delegitimize the actual message of Donald Trump. Well,
I mean that's a exactly what he did. He'd encouraged
people to go into the into the building. So would

(35:06):
that mean that people in the conspiracy world would look
at Nick as potentially a FED or an insider or
something like that. That would be how it would line up.
But yeah, he's a huge guest on info wars at
the minute. Now info Wars have said that people like
Ray EPs and stuff like that, who basically texted his
nephew and said, we stormed the capital yet I did it,

(35:28):
which has been taken to be like, well, that's that's
obviously proof that he's a FED. He was encouraging it.
And then there's always again this idea that oh, well,
all these people were secretly Antifa and that's why that's
they riled the crowd up and then the Capitol police
let them in and it was all a trap. Interesting

(35:49):
on the sevenths he tweeted the capital seat was fucking awesome,
and I'm not going to pretend it wasn't. He also wrote,
for a brief time yesterday the US capital was once
again occupied by the American people before the regime rested
back control. So yeah, it is interesting why he wasn't
arrested or or charged with anything. He certainly seemed to

(36:11):
be encouraging a lot of the actions that took place.
Who knows who can say, and he's on record, Yeah,
absolutely on video.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
That's what I'm saying, Like what.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Yeah, it is strange, isn't it? Who can say? Like,
it doesn't seem to add up. But in the years
following it, he was actually a vocal advocate for a
blanket pardon of the defendants, including the violent offenders, And
on the fourth anniversary of the Capital storming, he claimed

(36:45):
it as Patriot's Day, which is a term that's been
coined by a lot of people who were there, and
called on President Donald Trump to pardon or ja six prisoners.
Now off the back of this, he claimed that the
FBI had investigated him, and he claimed that his bank

(37:06):
account had been frozen, and he also claimed that he'd
been put on a no fly list and this was
all because of his supposed involvement in January sixth, Except
that wasn't true at all, was it. This was reported
by The Daily Beast. White nationalist Nick Francis claimed to
twenty twenty one that he was put on a tisa's

(37:28):
no fly list as a victim of overt political persecution.
Around the same time, he bragged that the federal government
froze one of his bank accounts containing a sum in
the six figures range, but the twenty four year old
Holocaust Denies version of events does not hold him up
to much scrutiny. Documents obtained by The Daily Beast show Fantas,
who's one of the key figures in the build of

(37:49):
the Capital Riot, misled his supporters over why he was
banned from flying on commercial airlines, as well as why
he received a letter from the Department of Justice notifying
that his assets were seized and subsequently unfrozen on the
ground that they contained proceeds of money laundering. Why are
fraud and threat violations in court documents? First mentioned by
the left wing newsite The Gray Zone, the TSA reported

(38:10):
that they banned Fantais from flying because he posed a
safety risk of crew members and threatened to strangle a
flight attendant, so not because of his political movements. He
wasn't being persecuted for his politics or being investigated for
his involvement. In January sixth, he threatened to strangle a stewardess.

(38:37):
He threatened to strangle a stewardess because she asked him
to put his mask on, because masks were mandatory because
it was, you know, during COVID, and so that was
why it was banned. Basically, the reason that his account
was frozen was because he received that money. And it's

(39:01):
just standard if you receive more than half a million
dollars in bitcoin payments from somebody out of the country,
it's going to with there's just seemingly a gift. People
are going to be interested in that because it looks
like he's laundered it. Now it transpired that it was
his bitcoin and he just wanted to give it to Nick.
But that's why his account was very briefly unfrozen. But

(39:24):
you've got to say that does add a layer of
suspicion because Nick has gone out of his way to
pretend that those were the thing were those actions against
him were the result of him being at January sixth,
and because he's being investigated and banned from flying and
you know, his accounts frozen and stuff like that, well

(39:47):
then you know, then he's being persecuted by the authorities
as much as anyone else. Surely you see where this
is going. It's the sort of thing that if you
needed an excuse, that would be an excuse. And we
know it's a lie. So is he using that as
an excuse? Who can say so? After Matt Gates, we

(40:12):
remember that Matt Gates was hit with allegations of a
sexual relationship and buying drugs from a seventeen year old girl. Well,
Fuentes stuck up for Matt Gates. He asserted that this
was absolutely okay because it's very traditional. Yes, yes, we
all remember those days of law when people would buy

(40:32):
a MDMA off seventeen year old girls and then bang
them in a hotel. So traditional. He basically said that
it was just a relationship with a very large age gap,
which it wasn't because Matt Gates paid these women for sex.
You also claimed, and you know those red flags that
you sort of felt earlier, Well, see if this is one.

(40:57):
Because Nickers claimed that the age your consent is a
radical feminist invention, that's weird. Why would you say that?
Like again, that's one of those things where it's like,
don't argue about how the age of consent isn't low enough.

(41:17):
It makes you look like a bit of a kiddie fiddler,
like people could be forgiven for saying the reason that
you think that the data consent should be low is
because you want to have sex legally with children or
young teenagers. Weird Anyway, On November the twenty second, twenty

(41:39):
twenty two, do you know where Nick Frentes was Mexico? No? No,
it was a moral largo. But he was there with
Kanye West and Donald Trump. Now the meeting was actually
at a can't his request because he was trying to

(42:03):
launch his presidential campaign. So he decided to go and
see Donald Trump. You know, because and I say this
with all you know sensitivity, Cornye is fucking mad. He's
as mad as a bag of badgers like this fucking
is insane, the poor side. Like at this dinner, Trump

(42:24):
said that he was really impressed with with Nick Fuentes,
but following that, he released the statement saying that Connie
West unexpectedly showed up with three of his friends who
I knew nothing about, that he dined with, and that
the dinner was quick and uneventful. Now do you know

(42:44):
who he was to actually arrange for this this to happen?
Roger Stone, No, not quite not quite.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
It's going to be my god.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, it's a it's another white haired lithario. Oh Milo
Milo Mino Unapolis, who will become a player in this
sordid tale very very soon. But yeah, it was Milo
that actually arranged this, and at this point he was
friends with him. Now I don't know who the three
people were, but I think it was the three friends

(43:20):
of Corne West. I believe that it was Nick Frantes
obviously Mino Unopolis, and I think the other person was
a generman called Ali Alexander. And Ali Alexander will become
very important to this towards the end of this tale.
But essentially, members of this meeting gave completely contradictory accounts.

(43:43):
One source stated that Trump was very taken by Fuentez
and impressed that the twenty four year old was able
to rattle off statistics and recall speeches dating back to
twenty sixteen. Paraphrasing the conversation. The sources said that Fwentis
told the President he preferred him to be authentic, and
that Trump seemed scripted and unlike himself, and unlike himself

(44:04):
during his recent twenty twenty four campaign speeches. Trump responded,
you like it better when I just speak off the cuff,
the source said. Francis replied that he did, calling Trump
an amazing president when he was unrestrained, and there was
a lot of fawning back and forth. Kanye West had
an interesting request for Donald Trump. Do you know what?

(44:28):
He asked, Donald Trump? Would you sign this KKK outfit
for me? That would have been less insane. He genuinely
proposed to Donald Trump that Donald Trump should be Karanye
West's vice president. You should drop his campaign and he
should become the He should join Karye's campaign and be

(44:51):
his vice president. And according to Kanye West, Trump then
started basically screaming at me over the table and telling
me that I was an idiot and I was going
to lose. I mean, has that ever worked for anyone
in history? And I'm like, and apparently he said this,
hold on, hold on, hold on, Trump, you're talking to

(45:15):
Yay the mad? Is he insane? That mad is mentally ill.
It's brilliant. So on November the twenty eighth of twenty
twenty two, Tim Paul interviewed West and he was there
with with Mino Unapolis and Kanye West. Again, Paul showed

(45:39):
West an article posted about Mike Pence saying that Trump
was wrong for allowing anti Semitic people to eat with
him at dinner and demanding that he apologized. And on
December the fourth, Napolis and outed that he had completely
parted ways with the campaign. So the end of November
he's there eating dinner with them at marl Argo and
going on the Tim Paul and promoting it. And by

(46:01):
the December the fourth, they've completely fallen out. But this
is December the fourth, twenty twenty two, okay. So also,
this was about the time when basically Nick went on
Info Wars with Kanye West, and West decided that it
was the best time to declare that he loves Adolf

(46:23):
Hitler and that the Holocaust wasn't real and that he
loves Nazis. He also that was the one where he
had a he had a fishing net net Yahoo net
and Yahoo yeah. Yeah, it still doesn't work. It's terrible.
So on December the fifth, he went on Proud Boys

(46:46):
founder Gavin mckinness's show, and West was there along with
twenties again, and West basically said that hit and I
quote Hitler's negative reputation was crafted by Jews which isn't accurate.

(47:08):
That's the foot lightly yes. He also basically said that
they need essentially a Christian theocracy, like an autocratic Christian dictatorship,
and West said, if you don't believe in Jesus Christ,
you are just wrong. And Fens basically stated that his

(47:29):
goal is to turn the Republican Party into a truly
what he calls a truly reactionary party. He says he
opposes all immigration, he believes that it's a demographic threat
to the United States. He believes in the Great Replacement theory,
and white genocide. He opposes all types of feminism. He

(47:51):
also basically wants us to say the right to take
over and displace Conservatism in the GOP. Basically he says
that mainstream conservative groups and I quote Christian Republican voters
get screwed over because the GOP is run by Jews, atheists,
and homosexuals, which again isn't completely accurate. He also would support,

(48:20):
and I don't know why, a Chinese invasion of Taiwan
twenty twenty two, Nicholas fun Times said, I want China
to take back Taiwan. I want Russia to take back Ukraine.
If for no other reason, then it's time for America
to be humiliated. So okay, I think we can pick

(48:44):
up from this as well. That he's admitted on numerous
occasions to be anti Israel and a proud Holocaust denier.
He was live streaming President Trump's inauguration and he said
that he believes that the Jews are in the way
of the sovereignty of the USA, that they are the
most influential faction in our government, and that Trump is

(49:05):
captured by this Israeli lobby. In March twenty twenty three,
he's dead. I think the Holocaust is an exaggeration. I
don't hate Hitler. I think there's a Jewish conspiracy. I
believe in race realism. Race realism is the concept that
basically racers have attributes that you just can't get out of.

(49:27):
And you know, it's can you believe born in the
idea that, well, if racers have certain attributes, then well
there must be a hierarchy with some being superior and
some being inferior. It's the Bell curve shit. Essentially, it's
all that stupid nonsense. He promotes white supremacist beliefs and

(49:49):
claim But here's the thing. If you asked him if
he was a white supremacist, he would say no, and
not because he's half Mexican, because he thinks that the
term white supremacist is an anti white slur. So he
positions himself, refers to himself as a Christian Conservative or

(50:10):
a Catholic conservative. He opposes abortion and everything that you'd expect.
It is what would be called a traditionalist Catholic. And
he rejects this thing called the Nostra a tart. I've

(50:30):
probably completely pronounced that wrong. Nostra a e t a
t e. Do you know what that is? I didn't
know what.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
It was, no idea.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
It's a paper document that the that came directly from
the Vatican. So it's part of Catholic doctrine that says
that the Jews are not responsible for the death of Christ.
Nick Fuentes rejects that, as does mel Gibson. Actually, but
like that's completely different, like the story. And in March

(51:05):
Jowently twenty four, Frentis wrote that he and his followers
rightly defend the traditional Catholic view which blames Jews for
crucifying our Lord.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh was it Vatican too that.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Released that must have been must have been the CORRUPTI Vatican. Yeah,
we're getting into jick track shit, he now basically, but yeah,
so he's you know, he's absolutely hardcore. He again, this
is where it gets all a bit strange. This is
one of these things where people hate one side so

(51:39):
much that they'll they'll fund another side or whatever. Like.
During a live stream, Francis denied the atrocities of her
Mass's October the seventh terrorist attack, including acts of rape
and the murder of babies that he claims were all
Alie and that. But he didn't go He didn't say
that it was exaggerated. He didn't say that early reports

(52:00):
became repeated as fact that were later discovered to be untrue.
He said that none of it was real. He said
that the attack was completely staged, as used as a
strategy to justify Israel's unfolding regional war with Iran and
then also to oppress Gaza. And he's not the only
person that has gone that far. I think a lot

(52:23):
of center people would certainly say that, well, it was
definitely used as as the catalyst for the ongoing atrocities
that were seeing in Gaza. But he's in David like territory.
There and I mean that because David Likes said exactly
the same thing, that there was like a stand down
by the Israelis and they or even that the Israelis

(52:43):
themselves murdered their own citizens as a false flag, which
actually he says. He says that they israel and I
quote allowed this to happen, participated in the attack, and
even killed their own people. So went also is a
big fan of Adolf Hitler. That's not a massive surprise.

(53:07):
AFPAC twenty twenty two, he apparently praised, bestowed what has
been described as giggling praise on Hitler, and in the
following year he advocated for the execution of perfidious Jews.
He said that Jews are evildoers that need to be
given the death penalty, and during the speech where he

(53:30):
was praising Hitler, he said that the media has been
comparing Vladimir Putin to Hitler, as if that wasn't a
good thing. He then said, can we get a round
of applause for Russia, which was followed by chance of
Putin Putin Putin. He also has a habit of referring

(53:52):
to Putin as Czar Putin, and he's obviously, you know,
a great fan of the invasion of Ukraine, and he
said on numerous occasions that he wants Zarputy to liberate
Ukraine from the Great Satan and the evil empire in
the world, which is the United States. Now, he's also

(54:14):
an integralist. I didn't know what that was. What an
integray An integralist is a Catholic that argues that the
principle of the Catholic faith should be the basis of
public law and public policy within civil society. So things
that are forbidden by Catholic doctrine would be against the law.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Okay, So a Catholic fundamentalist then.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Also it also describes himself as a
Christian nationalist. So again people might be noticing, like, hang on,
this is like essentially isis tactics but with Christianity, And
it's like, yes, yes, it's exactly that. Absolutely that it's
also fascism. He said, you're either a Catholic or you're

(55:03):
a Jew. Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
He also basically he's not He's not going so far
as to say zog like Zionist organized government, because he
doesn't mince his words. He said that basically it's a
Jewish occupied government, so jog also in a way that's

(55:30):
definitely not self loathing projection. He's spoken out vehemently against
the LGBT agenda, and he's described transgender people and self
sex same sex marriage as deviancy. He also basically Louis
the Roux interviewed him like a couple of years ago,
and he also on the same show Baked Alaska, did

(55:54):
an incredibly embarrassing rap about Donald Trump. It's it's a
show over programs, be quite honest, But anyway, on the show,
he told lu through that he believes it would be
better if women did not have the right to vote.
In do you Like? Twenty twenty three, he appeared on
the Fresh and Fit podcast with that fucking with the

(56:16):
Indian Is he Indian or is he black? Myron Gaines
the black or Indian white supremacist? Like yeah, yeah, it's
a really found out about him as well. It's like
he claims to be like a top shagger in all
this and like a sort of pick up artist and
stuff like that, and apparently he's only ever had one
girlfriend in his entire life or something stupid like that. Like, again,

(56:38):
this is what gets me about all of these people
they're just projecting, and that's that's why the audience is
attracted to them. Because other people that feel weak and
feel marginalized and feel that basically like they don't live
up to their own ridiculous, self imposed standards that come
from a completely irrational, anti fatill view of the world.

(57:01):
They need people like this to make them feel like
they're slightly less of a worm than they actually are.
And it's tragic, but you know what you're going to do.
Basically on this fresher Fit podcast, Twentis said that women
were baby machines because that's what their brains are about.
As as we said before, he's also concerned about the

(57:25):
impending destruction of the white race, or white genocide as
he calls it. In June twenty twenty four, he posted
on Twitter, these political people will say literally anything other
than the actual truth. There are basically two things going on,
white genocide and Jewish subversion. And he also again so
he talks about not only white genocide, which is the

(57:49):
fascist concept from David Lane that immigration is killing off
the white race, but he also talks about the great
replacement theory. But he calls it and you're like sprint
because it's clever. He doesn't call it the great replacement theory.
Do you know what?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
He calls it the Great replacement fact?

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Nearly the Great replacement reality fact would have been better.
Actually yeah, like, yeah, that would have been better. It
works better, and it trips off the tongue better. But yeah, No,
he's desperately worried that people are being replaced, a particularly
the white race in twenty twenty five. Earlier this year,
in February, he said that the white people need to

(58:31):
preserve their culture and should organize to live among other
white people because the US has become an alien nation.
Prior to that, in December twenty twenty three, he blamed
immigration for the end of whites as a group and
whites as a race. And he also spends the end
of the white civilization. And I have to say he's
absolutely right about that, because I can't remember the last

(58:52):
time I saw a white person. He also promotes race realism,
so this white is believe that one race governs traits,
One race governs traits such as behavior and intelligence, with
non whites being inferior to whites. He often uses terms
like culture as a substitute for more diversive terms like

(59:14):
race and promotes American values as as a like a
code for white culture and white Christian identity. He largely
avoids blatant white supremacist language, but I don't know he does,
he does, and he doesn't again, he skates this sort
of like internet world where everybody knows what the hell

(59:38):
he's talking about. And he said his main point is
that that modern conservatives don't go far enough to prevent
things like feminism and race mixing and homosexuality, and that
that is that is is his his thing. And he's
even gone so far as to call for the complete
eradication of the Civil Rights Act in America now in

(01:00:03):
their rown. Twenty twenty four, after Donald Trump's victory in
the twenty twenty four years pres election, he when Roe
versus Way got overturned and so certain states basically made
it very difficult, if not illegal, to get an abortion.
He tweeted out your body, My Choice Forever, which is

(01:00:24):
obviously a spin on My body, My Choice, and posts
spread online by Frentis in his group of Army stated
that women who received abortions would face unspeakable consequences and
that women are trying to destroy the world to retain
their to maintain their reproductive rights. They're also the groupers

(01:00:48):
have got this acronym RKD four NJF. Do you know
what that stands for?

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Rape?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Kill die? And Nicholas Joseph Fuente. These edgy, edgy fuckers pathetic,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
They're just so fucking sad.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Yes, yes, they are so. Anyway, he also says that
if you're a grouper, you're not allowed to masturbate or
think about girls ever. So anyway, so he's he's doing
this thing about my body, your choice, my body, your body,
my choice, forever, blah blah blah. And November the tenth
of lady called Martha Rose and activists from the city

(01:01:32):
approached his house because Anonymous docksed him. The Hacker group
doxed him and showed the outside of his house. And
so people started to turn up at Nick's house. And
this lady called Marla Rose walked up the stoop and
I don't know if she'd even press the bell or
even managed to knock, But Nick, have you seen the video?

(01:01:54):
Nick answered the door by spraying spraying the woman with
pep spray. Now, rather embarrassingly, the body cam footage of
him speaking to the police came out and he said
in it that he was terrified for his life by
this woman, which made him come across as a bit
of a pussy. And he also said that whatever you
heard about me being a white supremacist isn't right because

(01:02:17):
I'm half Mexican. M Again, they just got like but
this didn't really sort of like hold any water, and
he was charged with battery and it later appeared and
court into seven nineties. I don't know what's happening with that.
As far as I know, it's still ongoing, but I
don't know. A few days later, something slightly less funny happened.

(01:02:40):
A man armed with a pistol and a crossbow showed
up at Forty's home at eleven thirty at night. He
was a guy called John Lyons, and he previously killed
his mother and and her two adult children and then
gone round to Nick Fuenters's house, knocked on the door

(01:03:01):
and shouted for Nick to come out. Now, Nick was
actually doing a live stream at the time and so
didn't realize that this guy was outside. And a guy
later got into a gunfight with the police and was
killed and has actually made a statement on x saying,
last night, an armed killer made an attempt on my

(01:03:22):
life at my home, which was recently docked on this platform.
He also wrote the gunman carried a pistol, crossbow and
incendry devices. I believe he intended to kill me. He
is now dead, and I am okay, but this is
Nick Frents, right, okay, And you know he's a deeply

(01:03:43):
pathetic tragedy. He's the sort of person that, if he
wasn't such a loathsome unpleasant cunt, you would feel deeply,
deeply sorry for him. Even he's a joke. He's a
he's a cliche. He obviously despises his own existence. He
rails against foreigners whilst being Mexican. He screams about LGBT people.

(01:04:07):
Who's Most people suspect him to be a deeply closeted homosexual.
He promotes white supremacy in the master race whilst being
an unattractive weakling gamer nerd who looks and I don't
mean to be rude, but he looks like you can
smell him through the laptop screen. I swear to fucking
God right, his bedroom will be full of anime pillows

(01:04:28):
crinkled tissues and it'll stink of fucking onions. He's pitiful,
he's lamentable, he's a contemptible character. But as I've also said,
he's a massive cunt. So fuck him. Fuck him in
the ear. He speaks through his nose, he breathes through
his mouth. His suits make him look like he's just
got off the set of bugsy Malone. And when he

(01:04:48):
gets really excited, he does this thing where he squints
his eyes and his buck teeth come out and he
looks like a reject from the Island of Dr Moreau,
like some sort of really short sight to beaver pig.
But anyway, that's Nick Fuentees. Now. Nick Fuentes was recently
criticized by, of all people, Tucker Carlson. Now Tucker we

(01:05:14):
know Tucker. Tucker was born in San Francisco in nineteen
sixty nine. He's the oldest son of Lisa mcneer, who's
an artist, and Dick Carson, who was a former Gonzo
reporter who became the director of Voice of America, which
was a CIA RAN organization, and also the president of

(01:05:34):
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, And it was at one
point the US ambassador to the Seychelles. So in nineteen
seventy six, Tucker Carlson's parents divorced after their nine year
marriage turned Sauer and Carson's father was ant to took
custody of Tucker and Carlson's mother left the family when

(01:05:56):
he was six and she moved to France and he
never saw his mom ever ever. Again, that's fucked up.
Your mom abandons you when you're six years old. Like,
this is the point, Like if you look at all
of these people, they're damaged people that have been twisted

(01:06:19):
and molded into these sad, hateful figures. And I find
it fascinating and not a little hilarious. Anyway. In nineteen
seventy nine, Carson's father married Patricia Caroline Swanson, who's an
heiress to the Swanson enterprises Swanson make like TV Dinners
in America.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Although she basically remained a beneficial of the family fortune,
they'd actually sold it by nineteen fifty five and she
legally adopted Tucker Carlson. So basically, Tucker Carlson comes from
a very very wealthy background with a father that was
probably a CIA agent for some bizarre reason. The guy
who used to it for CNN and then Fox News

(01:07:01):
is a massive proponent of the Iraq war has now
been embraced fully by the conspiracy crowd. This will come
on to that recently. Do you know what he tried
to do when he first left college? Tucker did? And
this is another thing that basically like, this is one
of those things where the conspiracy crowd probably should be going,

(01:07:22):
huh what you did? Fuck? Yeah, he tried to join
the CIA and he got Yeah. Do you know where?
He got turned down?

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Because his head was too big to fit through the
double doors.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
I think that was the real reason, but they politely
said it was because he'd done too much cocaine in
the past year, so his nose was too big and
you can't be a spy. You're leaving a trail of
bloody snot behind you. He decided then to pursue a

(01:08:04):
career in journalism, with the massive encouragement of his father,
who said, yeah, do that, they'll take anybody. So like, ironically,
I took Carson's first job in journalists. It was as
a fact checker. Yeah, but it was a fact checker

(01:08:26):
for Policy Review.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
Policy Review is a journal that was actually published by
the Heritage Foundation the Heritage Foundation. If anybody's listened to
my ranting on about Cambridge Analytica, the Heritage Foundation is
the deep state. They are the think tank that essentially
promoted Donald Trump, and without the Heritage Foundation, Donald Trump
would not have been the president. It just isn't like

(01:08:50):
the Heritage Foundation in the Council for National Policy include
people such as the mercers Steve Bann and Michael Flynn,
Kelly Ane Conwell and Mike Pence and various of the
people that were deeply, deeply entrenched with the Trump administration.
But he's anti establishment because he means the Mexicans or something. Anyway.

(01:09:15):
He then moved to the Arkansas Democrat Gazette, which is
in Little Rock, Arkansas. And this was basically in nineteen
ninety five, which is about the same time that that
documentary Banging in Little Rock came out. Although I don't
think Carlson has any gang affiliation, let alone being a
sort of jumped in member of the Bloods. But he

(01:09:38):
then basically joined the American Spectator. In nineteen ninety nine,
Carlson interviewed the then governor George W. Bush, and in
this he quoted Bush mocking Carla Fay Tucker, who was
executed in Bush's state of Texas, and also claimed that
Bush frequently used the word fuck and this basically led

(01:10:02):
to really bad publicity for the Bush to a two
thousand presidential campaign, and President Bush claimed that mister Carson
miss read, mischaracterized me. He's a good reporter. He just
misunderstood about how serious that was. I take the death
penalty very seriously. That's my Bush impression. It's not bad anyway.
So he basically nearly fucked up the career for George

(01:10:25):
Bush before becoming a massive sicker fan for him. Do
you know what was the thing do you ever see
Tooker Carson on CNN when he was first a journalist,
You know what, the sort of sartorial decision that he
took to make him stand out from the rest of
the serious journalists.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Well seriously wearing vests or something and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
The bow tie, the bow tie and the vest. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he looked a little bit like sort of Jerry Lewis
and the nutty professor. It's yeah, Bizarrely, he got that

(01:11:11):
habit from boarding school. So again, you've got to feel
sorry for this. Your mama bathers you when you're six,
then your father sends you off to boarding school before
deciding to after failing to get into the CIA, suggesting
why not be a journalist because anyone can do that,
or they'll take anybody. M not great. In two thousand

(01:11:32):
and he began It Was on CNN, and in two
thousand and one he became the co host of Crossfire.
Can you remember the interview where Britney Spears, of all people,
was asked about be ongoing Iraq War and what Americans

(01:11:52):
foreign America's foreign policy should be, to which she said,
I think we should just trust out president in every
decision he makes. That was the interview was by Tucker Carlson.
I didn't realize that. I thought it was by a woman,
to be quite honest, but I've got it confused with
another one. So yeah, where the Tucker Carlson was the
person that pressed the pop star and teenager Britney Spears

(01:12:16):
on what her thoughts were about America's foreign policy during
the war in Iraq prap. He then went on to
do various other shows, Tucker Carlson Unfiltered and various other things.
He also in twenty ten launched political news website titled

(01:12:41):
the Daily Caller. Now, the Daily Caller became another one
of these things that sort of skated the line between
conservative news and conspiracy theories and started to I think
it's sort of fair to say, indoctrinate people into that
type of thinking. In June twenty seventeen, the Center for

(01:13:03):
Media and Democracy said that The Daily Caller was paid
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars by Donald Trump's presidential
campaign in twenty twenty sixteen for its list of subscribers,
who the Trump campaign then emailed at least twenty five times.
This was clearly a conflict of interest and had clearly
violated journalistic standards. Nothing was done about this. In May

(01:13:28):
twenty nineteen, that was when sorry, in May two thousand
and nine, that's when Tucker Carson decided to go to
Fox News, and that's where he spent the majority of
his career until he was let go for numerous reasons.
I headed the twenty twenty election in September, Carson told
you is that Democrats were promoting mail in voting to

(01:13:51):
create uncertainty over the outcome of the election so that
they could manipulate the results. And after Joe Biden won
the election. In November, Carson raised false allegations for fraud
on the show. He mentioned the names of purportedly dead
individuals who voted in Georgia, although investigations showed that none
of this had actually happened, and that some of the
individuals that he had claimed to be dead were in

(01:14:13):
fact alive. So he named people on the show as
being dead and having improperly voted, and these people had
to get in touch with Fox News and say no,
I'm not quite dead. It was a bit like that,
you know, the sketch in months Python and the Holy
Grail nonsense, You'll be stone dead at a minute. He

(01:14:36):
also decided that it was a good idea to promote
the idea he got involved with, this idea that Venezuela
and Cuban on identified communist interest had used secret, secret
algorithms to hack into voting machines. This was Sydney Powell,

(01:14:58):
that the prosecutor connected to the Trump campaign. She promoted
this idea that the Venezuelan government had somehow helped Biden
to steal the election. Yeah, but now initially he was
fairly sort of like wow, fair enough to saying that
what Powell was describing would amount to the single greatest

(01:15:20):
crime in American history, but that Powell became angry and
told us to stop count outing her at contacting her
when we asked for evidence of widespread voter fraud. Now,
at the time, he was actually criticized for his skepticism
of Powell. So what he did was he then brought
on his show, Mike Lindell you know the man from

(01:15:41):
the My Pillow, And this is when he fucked up
because he basically decided to criticize dominion voting systems, and
Mike Lindelon took a cast and show claimed that they'd
hired hit groups and bots and trolls to target him,

(01:16:02):
and that also dominion voting systems were used to fraudulently
take the election. In July twenty twenty one, Carson suggested
that there was actually a meaningful voter fraud in Fulton County, Georgia,
despite the state's election results being validated by vos andanda
machine counts. Politi fact noted that none of the evidence

(01:16:23):
provided by Cars has substantiated his conclusion. For example, because
Trump and by the balance, was sorting into separate piles
during the hand recount, Italian shoots with votes exclusively free
of the candidate and not indicative of fraud, but he
said that they were. He said that it was ridiculous,
it was absolutely nonsense. And as a result of this
and numerous of the claims that he made in twenty

(01:16:45):
twenty two August of that year, Carlson was actually deposed
as part of the lawsuit by Dominion Voting Systems against
Fox News over false claims of voter fraud made about
the company. The following February, Dominion's legal team released texts
and other products of discovery against Fox. And this was
interesting because despite what he said on television, text revealed

(01:17:09):
that Carlson actually doubted the claims that the twenty twenty
election was stolen, and he mocks Trump. He mocks Trump
advisors including Rudy Juliani and Sidney Powell, and he said
that it was all bullshit. He texted to Laura Ingraham
Sidney Powell is lying, by the way I caught her.
It's insane. And he also texted to Laura Ingraham our

(01:17:31):
you as a good people, and they believe it. Carson
also texted to Sean Hannity saying that the White House
correspondent Jackie Heinrich should be fired for tweeting a fact
check of false claims that Carlson had himself tweeted out.
He wrote, please get her fired, seriously, what the fuck?

(01:17:55):
I'm shocked. It needs to stop immediately. Like tonight, it's
measurably hurting the company. The stock price is down. Not
a joke. He then said that I just went crazy
on a Fox executive over Heinrich reporting. Heinrich's tweet was
deleted by the next morning, So basically like he's saying
that this is this is negative from my reputation and

(01:18:15):
for the reputation of Fox News because you're pointing out
that we've lied. And what that resulted in is this
woman who pointed out accurately that he lied got fired. Also,
text were published about Donald Trump. Do you know what
Donald What took? Carlson said about Donald Trump? He said

(01:18:38):
nearly nearly He said I hate him passionately. He also said,
we're all pretending we've got a lot to show for it,
because admitting what a disaster it's been is too tough
to digest. But come on, there really isn't an upside
to Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
Holy what?

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
But this is This is a point. This is the
the whole point of this is that they're all bullshit artists.
They just lie to everybody's faces. They're doing what they
feel is beneficial to themselves. Basically, it's but he did
backfire because on April the twenty fourth, twenty twenty three,
Carson was dismissed by Fox News. It doesn't appear that

(01:19:19):
he received advanced notice of this. Basically on the friday
he said I'll be back on Monday, and he was
never back a bit like his mum, just gone forever.
But hey ho. Fox didn't actually provide complete reasons, but

(01:19:40):
the Los Angeles Times actually wrote that Rupert Murdock himself
had ordered took A Carson to be fired. So yeah.
The Wall Street Journal also basically said that private messages
where criticized Fox's management and used vulgan offensive language didn't help.
The New York Times said that in one such message,

(01:20:02):
Carlson expressed racist views by criticizing three Trump supporters who
were beating one anti for activists. He said, that is
not how white men fight classic. He also, again, Carlson
has repeatedly prosed promoted the conspiracy theory that of demographic replacement,

(01:20:24):
basically suggesting that the Democrats are bringing in foreigners and
illegal immigrants in order to because they will vote for Democrats,
which is just not true. He's also again promoted the
great replacement theory and described white supremacy as not really
a problem in America, which again is not completely accurate.

(01:20:48):
Heidi Birich of the Southern Poverty Law Center has said
that Tucker Carlson probably has the number one commentator, has
been the number one commentator mainstreaming bedrock principles of white
nationalists in the United States. So why was you really fired?
I mean, like it's speculative, but basically there's several reasons.
There's the Dominion Voting System's lawsuit that costs Fox News

(01:21:12):
seven hundred and eighty seven point five million dollars, And
although Carlson claims that there's no evidence to support this,
it really does. Like his private text reveal during the
lawsuit did show this language calling for a senior Fox
executive to be a derogratry term and basically you know,

(01:21:34):
slagging our Fox News. Also his toxic behavior and his
controversial rhetoric. There's a lot of allegations of sexism and
misogyny that came from his tenure at Fox News. Several
women actually sort of filed lawsuits of sexual harassment, but

(01:21:54):
they were later drops or they didn't continue, which is
so there's no sort of genuine, sort of real accusations,
but people have and then retracted them apparently. Also, he's
he became completely toxic. He thought of himself as bigger

(01:22:15):
than the network, and so he decided to move to Twitter.
And this is where Tucker Carson has got this now
talk show. Would you call it? Like, yeah, I suppose.
So he sits across the desk and rattles off shit.
It's a little bit of a fall from grace. Basically

(01:22:36):
during the very first episode, it was it was a
bit all over the place. One of the things that
he suggested, and is totally serious, absolutely legitimate talk show,
was that the USA had that week recovered in Extraterrestrial
Starship and its pilot. And that's not the sort of

(01:22:58):
news that you get on Fox, is it. He's branching out.
He also claimed that Vladimir Zelenski is sweaty in ratlike
and also that he was persecuting Christians, and he then
basically segued into slagging off things like Black Lives Matter,
claiming that the rights were organized by unknown entities connected

(01:23:20):
to shadowy figures like George Sauros. And he dipped his
toes into the September eleventh attacks, and this was all
that was needed for people like Alex Jones and various
other people within the conspiracy world to go, oh, that's
all right, we like Tucker Carson now, I mean, yeah, sure,
he's an elitist that comes from the news media, which

(01:23:42):
we've distrusted. He was an active promoter of the Iraq
war and the Weapons of mass destruction hoax, and he was,
you know, he's a company guy since day one. But
he's basically intimated in very very soft language that maybe
there's some questions about September eleventh, and that's it. That's

(01:24:02):
enough for them to drop their knickers for him. Basically,
it's ridiculous. Now, despite the fact that this show is
bullshit and dealt with things like aliens and stuff like that.
He actually had Donald Trump on his show in twenty
twenty three, and this was on the same date of

(01:24:24):
the first Republican debate for the upcoming presidential campaign. So
Donald Trump decided to go on Tucker Carlson's show instead
of instead of being at the debate, and to take
away attention from the debate because both of them are
obviously completely anti establishment. That's the only thing, isn't it.

(01:24:46):
That's the only explanation. There's no other explanation. He also
like shortly after that, he interviewed Larry Sinclair. Larry Sinclair
is the convicted criminal who was a massive criminal record,
largely for crimes of deceit and fraud, who claimed that
he had a late night crack cocaine fuelled sex with

(01:25:09):
Barack Obama. Okay, yeah, so yeah, he'd spent a long
time promoting this argo and listening to this guy who's
very clearly lying saying that, yeah, in the past, I
used to smoke crack and have homo sexual sex with
Barack Obama. But you know, he doesn't, not so much anymore,
but certainly in the past. He also basically he also

(01:25:32):
traveled to Russia in Forever twenty twenty four to interview
pres Peutin, who he's been a massive defender of, and
it was rather embarrassing because basically he set it up
as a right softball interview for Putin by saying like, well,
you know, you're just there to denacifire, isn't it. You've
not got any sort of like aspirations of territory or

(01:25:54):
anything like that, which Peutin responded, Oh, no, we absolutely do.
We want to take back all these states that used
to be part of the Soviet Union. We want to
basically redraw the borders to the thirteenth century. We don't
think that Ukraine is a legitimate country, despite the fact
that the Ukraine existed before the Soviet Union. And this

(01:26:15):
is He then did loads of sort of softball propaganda
ship by going to.

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Like, hold on, I was looking something up. I thought
it's good for us to know this. Never say the Ukraine. Oh,
that's what the Russians will call it because it's border.
It's that's what Ukraine means borderlands, and Ukrainian people are

(01:26:42):
offended when anyone else calls it the Ukraine because it
means it's the border, as opposed to like it's it's
our nation Ukraine. I was not aware of that, No,
I wasn't. I was like, why do people call it that?
And then other people don't call that? So I like
looked it up and yeah, that's what we now know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:01):
Well, Slava, Ukraine and Ukraine existed far earlier than the
Soviet Union, and Putin is a dictator and a murderer,
so fuck him. But yeah, it also Tucker basically did
some really really obvious propaganda where he went to a
supermarket in Russia and was amazed that they had all
vegetables and stuff. He then went to one of the

(01:27:25):
better subway systems and remarked that this one, which was
really really nice, was better than some of the ones
in America which were not so nice, you know. So
obviously that's a good reason to move to Russia, now
that he hadn't always thought this took her, of course. Not.
In the two thousands, he would often say that Russia

(01:27:48):
was a police state where the freedom of press is disappearing,
and that Putin was in league with their enemies. But
since then he's decided that he actually likes Vadimir Putin.
He also likes Victor Allban of Hungary, and he's also
a massive fan of Bukeley of El Salvador. Yes, so

(01:28:11):
for some reason he's got this sort of ponshunt for
authoritarian foreign leaders. No idea why, but this is it.
He also he appeared in a film, or he created
a film sorry, in which he massively praised Victor Orban
and the film was called You're Like This Brent Hungary

(01:28:34):
versus Sauros, which is a reference to George Sourus. Now, interestingly,
actually in Hungary, George Soros is considered a hero because
he's one of these people that put a huge amount
of money into their infrastructure and did a massive amount
to get rid of the vestiges of the old communist regime.
What Victor Allband did, which was really really shitty, was

(01:28:57):
during the Syria War when they were receiving lots and
lots of refugees, he put these people on buses Victor
Aorband did, drove them illegally into another country, dropped them off,
and then put out in his newspapers that this had
been done by George Sauros as part of the great

(01:29:19):
replacement theory.

Speaker 4 (01:29:23):
Yeah now that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Yeah, Tucker to a fact check for that for the
Heritage Foundation. So Tucker's got his own entry in the
Encyclopedia Britannica. Wouldn't you be proud if you had like
mentioned as a your cultural artifact that he's mentioned in
the Encyclopedia Britannica. It'd be awesome, wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (01:29:45):
It, depending on what it's for you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Well, it's not so awesome for Tucker. According to the
Encyclopedia Britannica, Tucker Carson has been recognized for his success
in bringing far right viewpoints of vocabulary into the mainstream
of American politics, through his promotion of extreme positions on
the range of political and social issues, for his embrace
of white nationalism, for his support of authoritarian leaders of

(01:30:12):
other countries, and for his regular reliance on arguably false
or misleading claims, including baseless conspiracy theories, and for exerting
an unusual influence on Republican President Donald Trump, who was
a regular viewer of Carson's show. Don DeMarco like that?

(01:30:36):
Can you imagine that? Hello, mister Carson, this is the
Encyclopedia Britannica. We're very proud to say that you've been
mentioned in this year's edition. Really well, thank you very much. No,
don't thankers, No, really, really don't thank yous? Is it good?
Is it a good entry? And we could buy mister
Carson marvelous perhaps Marvel's. That's genuine, that's absolutely genuine it's

(01:31:04):
it's crazy, and further to that point, this is what
he does. In September twenty twenty four, he hosted the
amateur historian Daryl Cooper. Now we've spoken a bit about
this guy on twats. He then later went on Rogan,
but this is the guy that basically endorsed Holocaust denial
and said that Winston Churchill was the chief villain of

(01:31:24):
World War Two. He also said that the Nazis didn't
intentionally perpetrate the Holocaust, it just sort of happened because they,
you know, a you know, oh god, we've accidentally murdered
six million Jews, are christ Ah? How awkward? Like, which
is just obviously not true. I mean, if anybody believes that,

(01:31:45):
just just go and find out what they said at
the One Sea conference, or watch the film Conspiracy with
Who the Fox and It Kenneth Branner, like that explains
the planning for the Holocaust. So anyway, this this the
sort of person that he promotes on his on his show,

(01:32:07):
and he's obviously doing it to pander to certain people.
But this is the game that they're all playing, the
disingenuous game of like skirting white supremacist neo Nazi type
shit and seeing how far they can push it while
it's still seeming to be not complete shit people except

(01:32:28):
for Nick Frentees, who doesn't give a fuck. Also in
twenty twenty four, Carson shared with the documentary producer that
he believes that he was mauled by a demon while
he was in bed. Now we have discussed this a
couple of times on twats because it's just hysterical. He said,
that's what happened to me. I had a direct experience

(01:32:48):
with it in my bed at night. I got attacked
while I was asleep with my wife and four dogs.
I was mauled, physically mauled. Carson, who apparently says he
still bears the sky, said that his assailant was a demon,
and this demon was unseen and left claw marks on
his side. He said he was going to sleep. I

(01:33:09):
was totally confused. I woke up and I couldn't breathe,
and I thought I was going to suffocate. I walked
around outside and walked in, and my wife's and dogs
are not worken up and they're very light sleepers, and
I had this terrible pains on my ribcage and on
my shoulder. I was just in my box of shorts
and I went and flipped the light on in the
bathroom and I had four claw marks on either side,
underneath my arms and on my left shoulder, and they're bleeding.

(01:33:33):
He explain the accounter to an assistant and an evangelical
Christian who told him that that happens. People are tacked
in their beds by demons. Like I've just thought about that. Actually,
if he's got one scratch mark that's going under his
left side, perhaps reaching around towards his chest, and then
he's got one scratch on his right shoulder going down

(01:33:56):
to the front of his side, well that implies that
the demon was made clutching him closely from behind. What
was this demon doing to Tucker Carson that made him
cling onto him from behind that hard in order to
draw blood? Who can say? As might well be? Sounds
like it. It sounds like unfortunately he's been sodomized by

(01:34:19):
a demon, which is what happens when you, you know,
you put yourself into this uh, this spiritual warfare zone.
He also thinks that nuclear technology was created by demons. No, seriously,
he said, nuclear weapons are demonic, there's no upside to them. All,
and anyone who claims otherwise is either ignorant or doing

(01:34:39):
the bidding of the forces that created nuclear technology in
the first place, which were not human forces. So either
he's saying that he believes that demons created nuclear technology,
or he's having a fucking digger Oppenheimer. He said that

(01:35:01):
the discussion was on the perceived spirituality involved in the
US development of atomic war, was atomic bombs that were
dropped and basically, yeah, he thinks that that the influence
that created the technology behind nuclear bombs was demonic and
he genuinely believed that.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
Yeah, I did too, Like to be fair, like, we
got to throw Jack Parsons in there.

Speaker 3 (01:35:26):
You know, this is all that's a fair point.

Speaker 4 (01:35:28):
The yeah, yeah, that's it, Like there is legitimate there's
a narrative to it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Reason. Yeah, to link the two because of Jack Parson
and his link to the Ohto was it was he Ohto?

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Was he Golden Downs? One of the two? But the
moon Child, Yeah, the Moonchild thing was essentially him and
l Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, went into the
desert and performed as sexual ritual, whereby l Ron Hubbard
had sex with Parsons in order to bring forth a

(01:36:09):
demon which would impregnate their friend. Was it Marjorie Jones?
Was that her name? I can't remember, but this woman
who they don't remember them them having sex I remember reading.

Speaker 4 (01:36:24):
No, I think it's that they they.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Am I confusing that I am I confusing that I
might be confusing that with the the Kronners on Alistair
Crowley ritual, because they both wrote to Alista Crowley. This
is how my mind may have clocked it this up.
They wrote to them and told them about it was

(01:36:48):
the Babylon working That was what it was called, wasn't it.
They wrote very proudly to Alista Crowley saying that we've
tried the Babylon working with with we think we've we've
achieved a degree of success, to which Crowley replied, these
lauts are trying to make a moon child. He was
just not impressed by them at all. Them thought they

(01:37:09):
were amateurs and stupid. There is a theory that was
put forward by an incredibly anti Semitic guy that Margie
Cameron that was the name of the woman, because they
try and link the Cameron name to the Montaque Cameron
guy and all that shit. Anyway, we're going off on
Mad tangents here that she actually gave birth to this moonchild,

(01:37:31):
and then the baby was put in a capsule which
was put next to the very first nuclear bomb test.
It was attached to it in order to, I don't know,
turn it into the incredible hulk whatever it is that
nuclear radiation does. But that was a theory, complete bullshit obviously,

(01:37:51):
but that was a thing. So anyway, we're bang up
to date because in this ridiculous talk show that is
Got Tucker Carson invites Candice Owens on and during the
course of the argument, so during the course of the conversation,
Tucker feels that it is important for him to describe

(01:38:12):
Nick Flentes as a weird little gay kid in his
basement and also an angry little gay kid

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