The World According To Some (06)

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DOGE is exposed as group of kids
Elon predicts economic collapse
Trump uses obscure law to deport without due process
USAID building is closed – 10000 employees let go
Companies that the USA gov subsidises
Canada cancels starlink contract
Trans Operas, comic books and other USAID spending
Infowars argues for the right to be antisemitic
White house hiring white supremacists?
USA to send prisoners to El Salvador
Alex Jones is a sycophant for Elon Musk
Trump out negotiated by Canada and Mexico
Elon Musk spreads white south African farmers conspiracy theory

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
So they are calling conspiracy.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to some darcolic conspiracy with Brentley and Neil Sanders.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
That's the planet spirals into a fascist dystopia. We thought
someone really should keep a record of this decline so
that when the aliens are sifting through the ashes of
civilization they might be able to see where it all
went wrong.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is the world according to some or.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
As all the hepcats are calling it twats. I love that.
I love hepcats because because most people go, what the
fuck at what's act? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Headcat?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
By the way, yeah, there is it that reminded me
of it. Me doing that, I was like shit, And
so I was listening.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
To the end of the day and tucking amazing. I
remember these like so good?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Right, so how should we start it? Just over started?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
We started me right?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Well, there you go. Then fair enough. So we're up
to February the third, and if people remember, Elon Musk
has started Doge. This is a crack team of complete experts.
They've got control of all sorts of things, although they're
hoping to get control of all sorts of things like
the Treasury, Medicare, social Security, and so people are a

(01:38):
little bit suspicious. Then it transpires that these people might
not necessarily have the requisite experience that people would usually
expect with a job of this magnitude, shall we say,
with where you're you know, you're looking at sensitive material.

(01:59):
This is this is a thing that people are genuinely worried, so.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Like basically like auditing the federal government.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, yeah, and deciding where the funding goes and stuff
like that. You don't imagine you'd need all sorts of
sort of skills you have.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
A good CV, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
You'd hope to have a really good CV. I mean,
ideally you'd want somebody that's sort of a bit of
a polymath as well. They'd have to understand sociology, they'd
have to understand a degree of sort of medicine and
what's good for that. They'd have to understand economics and
things like that. They'd have to have some experience with

(02:35):
the world really.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Like in all your average Twitter user.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Then oh yeah, absolutely, everyone we could find we Twitter,
you know, vox Popular, vox die or whatever it is
like and just see how it is. Oh, you could
do what Elon Musk does, which was hired a load
of basically uh children, his own children. No, no, no,

(03:02):
not quite. They're probably not quite old enough. But essentially
there's about sixty seven of these people who have come
to be known on the Internet as the Musk Rats.
And this was first reported by Wired, and I think

(03:22):
friend of the show David Gilbert was actually involved in this,
a bit of a scoops got honest. The team that
Musk has decided to hire is a Cash Bobber who's
twenty one, a student at the University of California, Edward
cost Corustin nineteen, who's the students at North Eastern University
in Boston, and Ethan Sheertran twenty two, who said in

(03:45):
September that he was a senior at Harvard. And then
there's a couple who've actually got degrees or at least
have left college. There's Luke Farrett of twenty three, who
attended the University of Nebraska without graduating, go to a
Cole Killian a twenty four year old who attended McGill Universe,
and Gavin Clegia, a twenty five year old who attended Berkeley.

(04:05):
So I don't remember what what were you like when
you were sort of in your mid twenties. Brent were
you responsible enough to oversee a mass audit of the
government and charitable aid programs and such like that.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's a definite no. Yeah, I think I am right now.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
No, probably, No. This is the sort of thing this
is tends to be why you tend to have civil
servants and people that have been in the job for
a long time, you know, experience and experts. The problem is, like,
you know, fascism doesn't really like experts, like because they
tend to point out the flaws in the system and
the unfairness.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
We've got enough of experts.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Absolutely, We've had enough of experts. But the interesting thing
was that basically so Wired has put this out and
a lot of people are also worth spreading this on
the internet, and Elon Musk, being a champion of free speech,
had a massive hissy fit. He was exposed who these

(05:04):
people were and the group sort of lack of experience,
no positions in government, no knowledge of government working like
was decried by a lot of people. Basically, So what's
strange is that all six of them have tried to
cover their digital tracks recently. They've basically deleted a lot

(05:25):
of the social media presence x accounts, Facebook and stuff
like this, but we do know a little bit about
some of them. Other stuff might come out in the future,
who can say. But at the minute, on Februy the third,
all we know is that Gavin Cleger a twenty five
year old who attended Berkeley. He used to work for

(05:47):
Twitter and then a cloud software company, and he writes
a substack in which he praises Pete Hesgeth and claims
that Matt Gates, who we remember paid a lot of
money to do drugs and have sex with children, was
set up by the deep state. So you know, that's
that's interesting. Luke Farretter who's twenty three, he interned at

(06:11):
SpaceX and that's how he's found this particularly lucrative and
powerful position. Chao Tran what's his first name, can't remember,
Ethan Chao Tran, Well, he worked on autonomous vehicles in
his final year at Harvard, so maybe he's got some
sort of connection with Elon Musk through that we don't

(06:32):
really know. And Edward Korustine who's only nineteen, he basically
did internship Neuralink and a Cash Bober interned at Pallenteer.
So you know, these are kids of if we're Brittany. Honest,
I haven't really sort of had proper jobs. If they've
interned in and such like that. They're obviously very brilliant kids, right,

(06:54):
But they're kids, and being brilliant doesn't necessarily give you
the skills that are required for a job like this.
Even if we've let's pretend for a second that it isn't.
What it is is a slashing and a destruction of
the American administration, which is essentially what Project twenty twenty
five and Steve Bannon have been talking about for years

(07:17):
that they wanted to destroy the administration of the United States.
And what this is to do is to avoid regulation
for business and for the president. It's essentially installed dictatorial
powers that don't have to go through Congress and don't
have any oversight. They could just make sweeping reforms and
sweeping decisions and just watch to see if these happen

(07:39):
to benefit the general populace or the incredibly rich. So
this is what people are. The same people are sort
of like crying found and saying that this is stupid.
These really shouldn't be in charge of these sorts of things. Now.
When the names were revealed on Twitter and people were like,

(08:00):
hang on, these are the kids that are basically looking
at everything that that sort of important in our life.
Can he guess what? Musk tweeted back. Yes, no, he
tweeted back, you have committed a crime. And he insisted
that these tweets be removed. And he wasn't alone, turning

(08:20):
point USA, he was one of these massive foundations that
just so sort of have to have links to Cokes
and the Heritage Foundation and stuff like that. The coke
industries is what I'm talking about there who would definitely
benefit from a lack of regulation and oversight. Charlie Kirk,
who works for them, was among those who rushed to

(08:42):
attack Wired and defended the young engineers. He said, remember
where WYE was focused on cutting edge technology and how
young colleagues drop out founders could change the world.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh God, not anymore.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Now they're dosing DOSEE employees and whining they're too young
and inexperience to reform America's government. America's experience expert class
have led this country to ruin young geniuses with the
startup mentality could save it. I mean, I know, I
know it does sound a bit like like unfettered fascism

(09:17):
and a sort of you could, even if you want
to get really silly, tie in sort of like concepts
of like labels around you know this, the youth, the
Hitler youth and stuff like that, young girls doing cartwheels,
you know that sort of thing, and telling experts that
they don't know what they're bloody talking about. And look
at the mess you've got us into with the treaty
of not the treaty of his site. Sorry, with the

(09:38):
dog so we're talking about dog. Sorry, we are talking
about dog anyway. So Charlie Kirk, who was not impressed
with this, Elon Musk through a tantrum. But all that
was really revealed was the names at the ages and
some very very light facts about who these people are,

(09:58):
and they have been like nineteen to twenty five year
olds obviously very very bright. But that isn't necessarily the point. Now.
Will we find out more about these people and their
characters and what they used to get up to as

(10:19):
this series goes on? Who can say? Probably? Anyway? In October,
Elon Musk had done something that a lot of people
had not noticed, and this sort of came back up.
People were sort of like spotting this and this came
back to the forefront, particularly in line with some of

(10:42):
the things that have been said prior to the election
and some of the things that were now being said
after the election, and also this mass slashing of charitable organizations,
social safety nets and things like that. You see, let's
see if you can you can guess, Brendan, what do
you think Elon Musk predicted if Donald Trump was elected.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
The I don't know. He's said stuff like the war
in Ukraine would stop kind of conflicts or we're talking
something else here.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's not exactly that. No. Elon Musk had said that
if Trump was elected there would definitely be a massive
economic crash in America. Now, yeah, a lot of people
seem to have missed that. Basically, this is what Musk
stated in a call talking about how Donald Trump's policies
would affect Americans. He said, we have to reduce spending

(11:39):
to live within our means, and that necessarily involves some
temporary hardship, but it will ensure long term prosperity. Now,
this is the point. It makes it clear that disruption
is not an unintended side effect. This is what the
plan was. Or this chaos, rising inflation, people being put

(12:02):
into hardship. This is essentially their their plan. And somebody
had tweeted out Fisher King spelled fi s c h
e R, which is a reference to Bobby Fisher. And
I don't think it's like. I mean, he might be
a chess fan, but I don't think that's why he's

(12:23):
got Bobby Fishers as his avatar. Could be completely wrong,
who knows. Maybe it is Bobby Fisher. Bobby Fisher was
a chess player that seemed to go mad and basically,
despite being an absolute genius, very very much brought into
the idea that there was a world plot, a new
World Order, and it was specifically run by Jewish people.

(12:46):
So it's interesting that Elon Musk is interacting with someone
with that connotation in their Twitter avatar. Anyway, so this
person said, and this was in October. If Trump succeeds
in forcing through mass deportations, combined with Elon hacking away

(13:07):
at government, firing people, and reducing the deficit, there will
be an initial severe overreaction in the economy. This economy
propped up with debt generating asset bubbles and artificially suppressed
wages as a result of illegal immigration, markets will tumble.
But when the storm passes and everyone realizes we're on
a sound of footing, there will be a rapid recovery

(13:29):
to a healthier, sustainable economy. History could be made in
the coming two years. And Elon Musk had responded, sounds
about right, and so this is the thing. So what's
interesting about that is twofold, Like there's a lot of
people that say basically, oh, we didn't vote for this
and stuff like that. Evidently some people actually did, like,

(13:53):
but this is the other thing, like, you know, a
lot of people didn't. A lot of people did. It
was gas prices and eggs and stuff like that. And
when I said they did vote for this, they voted
for Elon going in and tinkering. But basically they thought
that what he was going to do was do what
kind of is doing, which is basically like make it
hard for people minorities and you know, be a bit

(14:15):
of a shit. What they didn't expect him to do
was muck about with all sorts of other stuff. And
also basically they seem to have this complete double think
obviously now about the price of everything. That was one
of the major things Biden's raised, the price of eggs.
Biden's raised the price of fuel. Well, all of that's
gone up. All of that has gone up quite significantly

(14:36):
since Donald Trump has come powered. He's doing a shit job. Basically,
he's not doing anything. He's standing there.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
He's doing a lot. He's slashing the hell out of
that country.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Well, he's signing a lot of shit that he doesn't
know what it is until he's been put across his
desk and stuff and he's let elon musk and a
bunch of sort of like hormonily chart darge power crazed
kids like access to you know, everybody's social security and
the money of the nation. Like I was thinking back, right, okay,

(15:14):
you remember when we were in bands. We're about that age,
yea yep, right, Okay, what happened when we've got a
bit of a rider, or we've got a bit of
a decent response from an audience, or we got like,
you know, anything like that? Did you act a bit
like the Fall and let it go a little bit
to your head and maybe you know, act a bit
like a rock star? Yeah, because I know I fucking

(15:36):
well did like and can you imagine if like, you know,
we were at a pub like in front of forty people, going, hey,
these kids have been given access to huge amounts of
like power. Do you think it might go to the heads?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Totally huge amounts of power and probably huge amounts of money.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, you think so. Like though, you know, Elon is
not known for he's quite the taskmaster apparently, isn't he basically?
But hey, hey, I but yeah, like it's probably probably
the consensus is these kids aren't really old enough to

(16:18):
be doing this. But something that is really really old
is an obscure eighteenth century law that Donald Trump decided
to roll out in order to be able to deport
people without due process. Yeah, you know, he's on about
these mass deportations, And previously we'd spoke about how he'd

(16:40):
caused problems by sending people on military planes shackled by
their ankles and by their wrists, which just created an
incredibly embarrassment for the country that they tried to pass
off as a win. It caused them a huge amount
of expense because they had to take them the people back,
only for the Columbian president to send his own private

(17:02):
jet to take these people home with some dignity. And
this has happened a few times in a few different countries,
but basically, after being sworn in Donald Trump, the forty
seventh president, it gave federal agencies until the third of
February to prepare to invoke the seventeen to ninety eight
Alien Enemies Act. This has nothing to do with independent

(17:27):
state film.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
This is exactly.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
This is a law that basically allows migrants suspected, not proven,
but suspected of illegal activity to be deported without the
court hearing that would normally occur in such an incident
or in any civilized country on the planet. And do

(17:54):
you know where do you know where the law was
last year?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Used?

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Was shortly after World War War two, Sorry, when they
were rounding up Americans of Japanese descent and putting them
into concentration camps.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Remember that. Remember that?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well, obviously we don't remember that, but it was a thing.
There was a television series called The Terror Series two
that was about that. And yeah, that's the law that
Donald Trump has decided to try and invoke.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
There's a good micro Schanoda song about it as well.
I think about his grandfather, oh right, in the internment camp.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Judge Kai I believe was in there as a young child. Yeah,
you know, but but it is not a fondly remembered thing,
and so invoking such a law to do simply things.
And the problem is as well, is that basically, like
you know, you're just talking about people that are suspected.
I guarantee, I absolutely guarantee that you're going to find

(18:58):
there's been loads of mistake and identities as administrative eras
people that have been removed and sent countries that they've
never like you know, even been to and such like that.
People who've been here, you know, since there were children
or whatever. There's gonna be all sorts of problems people
said to the wrong country. And it's just again, you

(19:22):
can do these things via due process. But this is
exactly the sort of thing that actually Alex Jones and
stuff like that has previously sort of like complained about
this militarization and this treating people as less than human.
So Reuters reported that after taking office, Trump ordered military
and immigration officials to be ready to implement the seventeen

(19:44):
ninety eight Alien Enemies Act, last used to justify internment
counts for people of Japanese, German, and Italian descent during
World War Two, the move which would almost certainly face
legal challenges could allow him to bypass due process rights
and rapidly remove migrants. But even with Trump's early sweeping actions,

(20:05):
this administration will have to contend with overwhelming immigration courts,
where asylum cases can take years to resolve. Trump expanded
a fast tracked deportation process known as expedited Removal, so
it only applies to those in the US for two
years or less and still gives migrants the ability to
claim silent. However, the Alien Enemies Act could allow Trump

(20:27):
to rapidly deport migrants deemed part of an invasion or
predatory incursion, which is a novel use of the law
previously only invoked in wartime. Republicans frequently refer to military
to illegal immigration as an invasion and portray migrants as
dangerous criminals and military age. So this is something that

(20:50):
we've spoken about. This concept of these lies that came
from previous conspiracy theories that were started by a militia
group called the Minutemen, which was this idea that the
United Nations would be used to take over countries, and
the concept was that if I'm a soldier from France

(21:12):
or whatever, I won't see Americans as necessarily humans, or
I will be far easier in carrying out violent military
actions against civilians because they're not of my own origin. Now,
just saying that out loud, that says far more about
the Minutemen than it does about the United Nations, because

(21:37):
you've got to remember, like they made this plot up
and if that's sort of there, well, that's how it
would work if I if I was doing it, I'd
kill a Frenchman. I'd kill a Frenchman right now, Show
me a fucking Frenchman. Get me one. Like. That's literally
what they're saying, isn't it. They would have no qualms

(21:58):
goodding down, rounding is up, sticky is in barns, and
lighting fire to the doors until we all burnt to cinders,
because you know, a foreigner, there's no way I can
relate to them on a human level. It's just that's
what they're saying. That is literally what they're saying. Anyway,

(22:20):
this foreign army got tied in with The Great Replacement
through which was essentially created by Camu, not Camu who
wrote The Stranger. It was a different Camu. So you
can still read that book and listen to the Cure
song about it without feeling guilty. It was Reno Camu
that came up with the great replacement theory. This is

(22:43):
the idea that white people are being replaced and eventually
we will be wiped out by foreigners. And Camu is
actually an academic, you know, he's written some very very
sort of involved books and things like that. But do
you know what is primary evident is for the great
replacement theory quite a lot, yeah, quite a lot of

(23:05):
foreigners knocking about when I was a bloody kid. Like literally,
his argument, his academic argument, is the same thing that
I would have to chastise my nan about saying it literally,
is like it's stupid, It's absolutely stupid. And this sort
of morphed together to come up with the concept that

(23:29):
perhaps the silum seekers immigrants. And you'll notice again that
they're mashing this together now in America, this concept of well,
asylum seekers get a due process. We can't have that
because they're just illegal immigrants, as we don't know if
they are yet under the due process. This is a
very old tactic. But yeah, this is this is where

(23:52):
the concept of immigrants are probably this invading army, like
a massive sleeper cell that are essentially setting up in hotels.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
And barracks around the country waiting for the signal to attack.
I mean, theyn't got any weapons.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
You don't know what the UN has planted.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Well, that's true, that is true. Actually the UN could
be shipping them in. Absolutely, But it's a stupid idea.
But that's where it came from. AnyWho, you can remember
that speaking stupid ideas, you can remember that Elon Musk
had decided that all foreign aid is a bad idea

(24:33):
and that he was basically going to shut it down
and had been gone lying essentially about what it is
that these organizations do. But on February the third, the
USAID building was closed. Now there's over ten thousand people
that work for this organization, and it was completely unclear

(24:58):
what the earth was going on, and Associated Press reported
that the Trump administration, a billionaire ally Elon Musk, moved
to eradicate the agency that provides crucial aid and funds
education of fight starvation, epidemic and poverty overseas, sparking a
showdown with Congressional Democrats, who blasted the effort as illegal

(25:19):
and vowed a court fight. In one of the most
dramatic effects efforts so In one of the most dramatic
efforts to push back on President Donald Trump's bid to
slash and reshape for the federal government, some Democrats sought
Monday to enter the headquarters of the US Agency for
International Development, but they were blocked by officers from even
broaching the lobby, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio said

(25:42):
that he was the acting administrator of the agency, despite
it being an independent body for six decades. So people
turn up to work and essentially they got security staff
to stop them from entering into the building.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Obviously, Elon Musk, because there's ten thousand people who all
of a sudden might be out of a job. I mean,
that's the very real human aspect just of this part
of it. And that's that's even before we've gone into
the concept of basically what USA does. It's probably a
good idea, like but Elon Musk decided to boast on
Twitter that he'd spent the weekend feeding USAID into the

(26:24):
wood chipper, which you know, just goes to show what
a prick he is. But Trump had already told reporters
that shutting down USAID should have been done a long
time ago. Now he needs approval from Congress to do this,
But when he was asked if you need an approval

(26:45):
from Congress, he said no, I don't think so, which
shows that he either doesn't understand government or more likely
doesn't really care.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
So yeah, there was a bit of a a bit
of a demonstration, but Musk declared, yeah, we're going to
shut it down. So basically what is USA, Well, the
USA is one of the largest providers of humanitarian aid,
and basically this is upended decades of US policy that

(27:16):
put humanitarian assistant and development at the center of efforts
to sort of build alliances and counter adversaries. It's more
complicated than just sort of like throwing money at stuff.
It's helping prevent problems before they become problems. Like, you know,

(27:37):
there's a huge disparity in wealth right across the country.
Can you believe that a lot of people don't tend
to like America as an idea, like I mean, for
crying out loud in and around the called the Great Satan.
So if they actually sort of like do humanitarian efforts
in other countries, it's a good pr move. Also, it
prevents knock on problems if we have epidemics in one

(27:59):
county that might spread a cround around the world. If
we have wars, you have a mass displacement of people,
and that exacerbates refugees, asylum seekers, and illegal and legal immigration.
If you have problems economically one part of the world,

(28:20):
that could have knock on effects that can affect all
sorts of things like food production, fuel production, the general
sort of order of the world. Destabilization can lead to
wars and conflicts. This can disrupt all sorts of things.
It's a bloody complicated place out there, and you know,

(28:43):
a country that has got such influence and power and
resources should really be doing these types of actions, not
really even to help the other people, not even out
of a sort of a sense of like, you know,
are you my brother's keeper, just you know, just be
fucking your human being. They should have selfish reasons, because

(29:04):
you're preventing a huge amount of problems coming at you
down the line. But Republicans essentially framing is is just
like a waste of money, And they're also trying to
frame it as like advancing liberal course causes, like you know,
it's all woke, isn't it. It's the woke is the

(29:24):
wo Karate and stuff like that, and some examples of
that might be coming up just shortly. The longest short
of it is, though, is that the US spends less
than one percent of its budget on foreign assistance, which
is actually okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is what Donald Trump,
this is what Donald Trump and Elon Musk's doge are
slashing away out to get back all these trillions of

(29:47):
dollars and such like. It's it's less than one percent
of the budget.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I guess it does like it ties in with their
America First policy, doesn't it.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Very surface level?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, absolutely, but not really when you really think about it,
Like you said, preventing problems elsewhere stops those problems coming
to your country.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, precisely, you know. But what they're doing as well
is they're framing this is as fraud. They're uncovering fraud.
I mean, they've never actually given any evidence of fraud,
but that's that's the line. We're slashing costs, we're saving
the country money, and we're uncovering fraud and it is

(30:31):
absolutely bullshit basically. And the other thing is that basically
only a minority of this US economic assistance goes to governments,
so in twenty eighteen, twenty one percent of US official
development assistants went to governments, twenty percent went to nonprofit organizations,
thirty four percent went to multilateral organizations, and twenty five

(30:53):
percent went elsewhere. Typically, when the US wants to support
a country that is ruled by a corrupt, uncooperative to
craft the government, US assistance goes through private channels NGOs
or other private entities or multilateral organizations. There's no evidence
of fraud or waste. Now, hmm, if you want to

(31:15):
have a conversation about like which NGOs does it go to?
And you know what, who would be considered a corrupt politician?
Who would be considered somebody that they would use NGOs
or private entities too to provide counter assistance. So what
you're saying stuff like that, like you know that this
is where it does get into murky areas, Like, but

(31:37):
those aren't the things that they're going to look at.
They certainly aren't going to look.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
At that type of thing.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
And I'll tell you what. They won't look at the
military budget, which is over a trillion dollars, Like it's
exactly let's let's play, let's play a guessing game Okay,
how in subsidies over the past decade. How much money

(32:01):
has space x received from the government. This is subsidies,
so basically a gift from the government. One hundred billion,
not quite fifteen billion, is still a buger ton, right, Okay,
that is far more than they're talking about in this
the USA. Essentially other companies that have received huge subsidies,

(32:25):
and this is basically in the last twenty four years.
Boeing has received fifteen point five billion, Intel has received
eight point four billion, Ford has received seven point seven billion.
General Motors has received seven point five billion, Micron Technology
has received six point eight billion. Amazon. Oh god, I'm

(32:47):
glad that they get something, because they're really struggling, aren't
they that they get five point nine billion. They're struggling
so much, right, okay, that they have to treat their
work is really bad and have to crush unions and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Such feel sorry for them.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, you know, our CoA they've had five point seven
billion in subsidies, Shinier Energy five point six billion, fox
Con Technology four point eight billion, Venture Global four point
three billion, Texas Instruments four point three billion. Volkswagen. Oh,
thank god, they get four point one billion. Sempra Energy

(33:24):
they get three point eight billion. NRG Energy get three
point four billion, next Era Energy get three point four billion,
Sasol get two point eight billion. Tesla, Oh, thank god,
because I like poor Tesla. They only got two point
eight billion in subsidies between two the year two thousand

(33:44):
and twenty twenty four. Walt Disney is obviously they need it.
They get two point six billion from the government in
subsidies and new Core get two point six billion in subsidies.
But strangely, strangely, DOSEE doesn't appear to be looking at that.
They appear to be looking at charitable organizations and social

(34:07):
support structures that help the poorest and the most needy
people on the planet, which is strange really. But somebody
that was but somebody that also is counseling contracts and
reducing people's income is the government of Canada. Specifically, they

(34:32):
decided to cancel a Starlink contract worth one hundred million,
and Starlink is obviously Elon Musk's satellite network that he
uses for the Internet and also allegedly to help Russians
kill Ukraine, Go Canada, Go Canada. But the contract which

(34:52):
was first signed in November aimed to provide high speed
internet access through Starlink satellite services to fifteen thousand eligible
homes and businesses, notably those remote, rural and northern communities
in Canada, and this was to be done by June
this year. But Doug Ford, the Premiere of Canada, said
we'll be ripping up the profits. The Premier of Ontario.

(35:15):
I don't know Doug Ford. He's the brother, I believe,
of that great, big fat guy that was caught smoking crack.
You seemed like quite a quite a fun time. He
looked a bit like Chris Farley, and I think he
accidentally knocks a woman over once running past her in Parliament.
Great times. Anyway, his brother, Doug Ford says, we'll be

(35:36):
ripping up the province's contract with Starlink. Ontario won't won't
do business with people hell bent on destroying our economy.
And this is essentially in response to what this nonsense
has been going on with Trump saying that he's going
to impose tariffs on Canada and they're going to destroy economy.
He remember Tim Poole was rather enthusiastic about the concept

(35:57):
of after we destroy Canada economically, that's when we rolled
the tanks or words to that effect.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yep, yeap in fifty first state.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be the fifty first state basically,
and the Caroline Leavitt has said this as well at
the Press Secretary. Various other sycophantic Republican politicians have also
made similar sort of noises. But Ford warned that year's
businesses are going to lose out on tens of billions
of dollars as a result of Canada's response to these tariffs,

(36:30):
and also that the deal with starlink it's one hundred
million or sixty eight point five million US dollars because
there's slight difference, but basically turned around simple, we've only
got President Trump to blame. Now. Elon Musk basically throw
a bit of a tantrum on Twitter about this and
pretended that he didn't really care. But and you can

(36:54):
understand why most wouldn't really care, because you know, he's
got important work, he's got important work to do. He's
finding fraud everywhere and like waste of money and stuff
like that. And so Caroline leave it. She bought receipts,
didn't she She only came with bloody receipts and proved
as all wrong by pointing out the huge amount of

(37:18):
waste that has been coming out of USA. She says,
she was asked why is USA being shut down? And
she's stunned. Stunned the press or by giving them a
lecture about where the money's been going, and like, are
you sitting down, Brent, because this will make your pits boil.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Well, I'm just thinking that the last time it was condoms,
wasn't it condoms?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Fifty million dollars worth of condoms wastefully sent to Gaza,
only to be used by terrorists to float in the
air we assume bombs into Israel. Thus by passing the
Iron Dome.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
So I have no idea what she's going to say
this time.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, you're going to be shocked. She found or Doge
found that one point five million dollars went to Serbia
right to advance DEEI in the workplace, seventy thousand dollars
right seventy thousand dollars went to Island for the production

(38:27):
of a DEI based musical play. Right forty seven thousand
dollars went to Colombia for the sole purpose of putting
on what she described as a trans opera, and thirty

(38:49):
two thousand pounds dollars went to Peru to help in
the production of what she described as a transcomic. I mean,
this is it's just outrageous. It's outrageous. And she said,
I don't know about you, but as an American taxpayer,
I don't want my dollars going towards this crap.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
I'm surprised you you actually did mean proper receipts.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Well, I mean when I say proper receipts, I don't
mean factually accurate receipts. I mean, I mean it's just
some stuff that she said. I mean it was seized
upon by fucking morons all over Twitnitter and all over
the world, and was repeated in the Daily Mail as

(39:40):
long as well as some other publications. But there was
a there was a single flaw with with it, which
was it was bollocks. It was not true. It was
if we're being really, really kind, a gross misrepresentation of

(40:01):
programs that have happened, for example, the production of an opera,
this trans opera. She's referring to a twenty twenty two
production of an opera called as One, which is a
chamber opera by acclaimed American composer Laura Kaminski, and it
focuses on the inner journey of Hannah, who's a transgender woman,

(40:22):
and her process of personal discovery from her childhood in
a small town. Now. The three performances of this opera
were put on in Bogotar, Columbia in March in April
of twenty twenty two, and thanks to this was basically
thanks to a co production between La Company Estabel and
the University Dear Los Anders. So basically the forty seven

(40:44):
thousand dollars that she quoted appears to be related to
the fact that the University of de Los Andeles in
Bogata received twenty five thousand dollars under a State Department
program allocated for expanding and strengthening the relationships between people
and government of the United States and citistems of the
rest of the world. So it was nothing to do

(41:05):
with the American government that didn't go towards this opera,
and the remaining twenty two thousand that she's on about
wasn't even funded by the American government either. Apparently, according
to Notice, which is a Washington publication from the nonprofit
nonpartisan Al Britain Journalism Institute. It came from it came

(41:26):
from other places. So when she was asked about this,
was this a lie? Was this a mistake? Was this
a distortion of the facts, Anna Kelly basically said of Notice,
said that it was immaterial. President Trump is delivering on

(41:47):
his promise to cut because wasteful spending across federal agencies.
Notice is totally missing the point. Taxpayers don't want to
fund transgender operas in Colombia, which is fortunate because they aren't.
They just aren't right. So what about the production of
a musical play that was based on DEI that was

(42:10):
to be put on in Ireland. Well, that grant came
from the State Department, not USA, and it wasn't for
a play, it was a music festival. So according to
USA Spending, the State Department Spade paid seventy thousand dollars
in twenty twenty two to I'm going to butcher this
the Keeludra Company, limited by guarantee to promote to promote

(42:33):
the US and Irish shared values of diversity, equity, inclusion
and accessibility. The grant funded the twenty twenty two music
festival at the US Embassy in Ireland, and this was
according to the Irish news news site great Now. The
event featured performances from Irish musicians. So this was a
festival that was put on to again to foster relations

(42:58):
between America and Ireland, and this was done by the
State Department. It wasn't done by USA. They're just lying
about where this funding goes, and they're lying about what
it was actually for. So the thirty two thousand dollars
for transgender comic book in Peru was also not part
of USA funding. It came from a full Bite program.

(43:20):
The full Bright is an international educational exchange program sponsored
by the State Department, and basically it's like they offer grants.
It's like this, the full Bright Scholarship, the Rhodes Scholarship.
They're all to do with educational programs basically, And this
particular one was designed to increase mutual understanding between the
US and other countries, and the award was to cover

(43:44):
expenses to produce a tailor made comic featuring an LGBTQ
hero to address social and mental health issues. It doesn't
specifically mention a transgender character at all, so it wasn't
a transgender comic. It wasn't financed by USA. It was
through an education of grant to promote education.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
So yeah, it's just.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Ridiculous, isn't it. They're just lying about where the funding
comes from, claiming that they've uncovered it in USA. None
of it comes from USA, and they're lying about everything
that it's actually being done for. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
First I just thought, you know, maybe there's not very
good at research, But now it's just just lies.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
There was one which was actually true, which was that
the USA did spend or send a grant to a
group in Serbia called Grouper Izardi, which is serbing LGBTQ
rights group. They sent this one point five million dollars
from USAID to this charitable organization, and this was aimed

(44:49):
at promoting workplace diversity in Serbia for LGBTQ people and
reducing workplace discrimination. That's a good thing. It's a good thing,
and it's one point five million dollars. Fucking out. Jake
Paul ships that it's nothing. Are we really really like,
do you know what I mean? The amount of appalling
consumption that we've got going on at the minute and

(45:11):
stuff like that. If you're really that bothered about sums
of money like that, then you really should be because
you feel that that's been taken away from you. I
don't know, there's there's some there's some sort of a
schism there with with like you know, this concept of
like get Alex change to some one of his fucking rolexes,
get Tom McDonald to say stupid like jewelry.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yeah, exactly like that. That amount of money is just
a drop in the oceans of what they're trying to
cut allegedly. So this is just them, virtue signally's going
after things that the the people I guess that voted
for them want them to go after.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
Yeah, they enjoy having the ability to persecute people. You
know somebody who really really enjoys they to persecute people
and was complaining on Twitter that this ability might be
in some way curtailed was Harrison Smith from Info Wars.

(46:08):
Do you know Harrison Smith?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
He's got these two new sort of like lackeys who
remind me a little bit of those two like what
was it Bebop and rock Steady, the guys with Treder.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Like.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
One's called Chase Geyser and one's called Harrison Smith. And
I don't like to be rude or cast dispersions on
people's appearances, but they both looked like store bought Halloween
costumes of child molesters. And I'm only saying that because
they've both been acting fucking dickheads on Twitter since Donald

(46:51):
Trump's coming. They've both got this real attitude that they're
in with Alex Jones and they're the shit, and they've
been dead aggressive and they've been dead like thing, and
it's like, fuck half the pair of you. You look
like you look like fucking Napoleon Dynamite's older brother. Like
you look like the sort of people that pay prostitutes

(47:11):
to cuddle them, right, and you have the fucking nerve
to act like the way that you've been acting on Twitter, like, well,
you know, then you're fair game now. Harrison Smith tweeted this,
you see, Like what had happened was someone called Steve
McGuire tweeted something out which was a press release and

(47:38):
it said Justice Department announces formation of task force to
combat Anti Semitism, and Steve McGuire had thought, breaking, the
DOJ has just created an anti Semitism task Force. The
task force first priority will be to rout out anti
Semitic harassment in schools and on college campuses. Now, can

(48:01):
you guess what? Can you guess what?

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Harrison Smith's very sensible reaction to this was, No, I
don't want to. This is a blatant and unacceptable violation
of the First Amendment separation of church and State. So,
as far as I can see, what is arguing is
that you should be allowed to be anti semitic. You
should absolutely be allowed to be anti semitic in the

(48:28):
workplace or in school, and you should be allowed to
harass people because that's your first Amendment.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Right now, I think he might have looked at that
and gone, Jesus, that's a bit that comes across a
bit bad. So he's decided to tweet another thing very
shortly afterwards that says anti semitism in any environment is
repugnant to this nation's ideals, said Senior counsel to the
Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Leo Terrell, who will

(48:57):
be heading the task force. So that's a quote which, yeah,
which is fair, but he's somewhat undercuts this by putting
the ability to criticize religions is actually the most American
thing that there is, and so this is.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Where wait wait, wait, wait wait, that's not even the thing.
It's not about criticizing religion, is it Like anti Semitism
isn't about the religion. It's about the people.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yeah, yeah, dickhead. And it's about being It's about harassment
in school and workplaces. It's like, do you know what
I mean? It's like, what situation where where it's like,
other than because you can because of the First Amendment.
What situation would it be where it's like, yeah, no,
that's a good thing that you're harassing that person because

(49:45):
of their religion in your in your class, or at
your workplace. Now I see what you're trying to do. Like, okay,
he's talking about free speech, absolutism and the First Amendment.
But this is one of those things where it proves
that that is a fucking stupid idea. And I'm sorry
if you offended Americans, but it's my fucking right to
tell you that so balls to you, and it is

(50:09):
fucking stupid, Like this is how they're trying to frame
this stupid bullshit. At the minute, Oh, you get arrested
for saying shit, You get literally arrested and thrown in
jail just for saying you're English in this country. It's
us a nonsense because there are limits of free speech,
and there are and you want limits of free speech.
I'm a free speech absolutist. I'm an absolutist of free speech.

(50:33):
There's nothing that shouldn't couldn't be said, Oh brilliant, Can
I go to your school and tell all the parents
that you're a pedophile? Can I do that? Or do
you think that might be defamatory, dangerous and probably detrimental, Like,
because you know what, even if I go around and
then tell people, you know what, I was only joking.

(50:53):
I was only making a point about free speech. This
hypothetical person some people are going to believe that that's
a life for in like there should be consequences for
stuff like that. And so this this concept of free
speech is nonsense because again, like a lot of the
people that claim to be Elon Musk, they're the first

(51:14):
people to try and slap down anybody that says something
that goes against him, band the words cisgender. He like
the Center for Country Digital Hate pointed out that there's
been a massive rise in Nazisism on Twitter, and he
tried to sue them like and uh and limit their output.

(51:36):
We put out a video calling him a wankah, and
Twitter engagement dropped off a cliff.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
In one of our previous episodes of This like you
were talking about he has banned more non bar accounts
than Jack did in his entire career at Twitter. So yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
Bullshit, and it's free speeches is an excuse when it's
speech that they like and they're not They're not uniform
with it across the board. When somebody says something or
does something they don't like, they'll ban it. When there's
a book in Florida that mentions gay people, they'll ban it.

(52:18):
When when Costa makes a sort of corporate affectation towards
not kicking gay people to death just for being gay,
you get dickheads like Lawrence Fox like it was it
was that what it was about, or was it eras
thing a Black Lives Matter thing? Either way, the point
is that they'll they'll abuse that and go this, you're

(52:39):
shooting this down my throat. I don't want to hear that,
blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Yeah, it was like the cost of thing. It was
the one coffee van that had.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
A oh there was a coffee van.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
It was a.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Mural by an by a trans artist and it's even
more and there was like is where his top surgery
was in the painting. That was actually the incident where
Lawrence Fox called me a groomer.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I remember we were in London
when he was about to come out of the Courts
of Royal Justice and yeah, we genuinely thought about going
over there and laying one on him, but then we
decided not ex yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, We'll go with that,

(53:32):
but uh yeah, we thought better of it. That was
also the day that Richard was was first in court,
wasn't it, And we were doing a lecture at King's College, London.
It was quite funny actually we got into London and
we were like, oh, we were We've discovered that all
these events were on the same time. And I had
a back and forth with Richard and obviously because of Manchester,

(53:52):
you had a back and forth with Lawrence Fox, and
we knew that certain people that knew both of us
were going to be there and such, and we're like, fine,
London's a very very big place, absolutely vast. You need
a train to get all over the place. There's no
way this will be just across the street. Literally to

(54:15):
the point where I had to take the long route
coming off the tube because I was paranoid about bumping
into someone like Nick Cholistrom Marvelous. But yeah, so Harrison
Smith strongly believes that you should be able to be
anti semitic. But yeah, but someone else that probably thinks

(54:38):
that you should be allowed to be anti semitic, well,
definitely yeah, But also a chap called Darren Beatty. Now
Darren Beatty apparently was a former Donald Trump speech writer,
and he was fired in twenty eighteen after CNN revealed
that he spoke at a conference attended by white nationalists. Well,

(54:58):
he's now been elevator to a top job at the
State Department. So he was appointed to serve as Acting
Under Secretary for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs, a hey
role that was responsible for helping shape YES messaging abroad
relating to counter terrorism and violent extremism. So in twenty eighteen,

(55:20):
it was reported that Bett, who was a former Duke
University instructor, spoke in twenty sixteen to the hl Men Club.
And this is a gathering that has included white nationalist
figures such as Richard Spencer and Peter Brimlow. Richard Spencer
is the guy that got punched in the face. He
was behind the concept of America First. He was financed

(55:42):
by William H. Resary, whose father was a card carrying
Nazi that supported the very first America First movement in
the thirties. Peter Brimlow is responsible for the far right
website vdare, which I'm not sure is even a thing anymore,
but at a time it was. It was a big,

(56:04):
big deal, basically during the sort of first or prior
to the first sort of Trump White House. So at
the point at that time he was working as a
speech writer in the Trump White House, and he defended
the speech that he'd made at this essentially white nationalist prevention,
claiming that it was completely academic in nature, like you know,

(56:26):
which is yeah, that's a bit like going to a
Screwdriver concert and claiming that you just like the music.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
But it's just the art, man, it's just the art.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
I can separate the art. It's all right. I'm very
conscious I'm wearing a dark throwne T shirt while I'm
saying this, which some might see the irony of that
but never mind, Dark sne regrettably put out an album
on the back they had in Norwegian region or was

(56:58):
it pure Northern Arian black metal, which was yeah, well yeah,
fucked up any who. Beattie has also made a series
of sorry. He founded the right wing media outlet Revolver News.
I don't know if you know Revolver News at all.

(57:18):
It's very big on conspiracy about the January sixth attack
on the US capital being orchestrated by federal agents and
maybe even infiltrated by anti fur that sort of thing.
So this is a guy that was a speech writer
for Donald Trump and now works for the State Department

(57:41):
determining who and what is considered an extremist. And he's
also and he's also made a series of shall we say,
racially charged comments. For example, he tweeted last year and
maybe this, maybe this will give some insight as to

(58:02):
as to his policies or you know how he might
interject who works in that department or who is an extremist.
He said, competent white men must be in charge if
you want things to work. Unfortunately, our entire national ideology
is predicated on coddling the feelings of women, and minorities
and demoralizing competent white men.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
See what he got at the job.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
He later praised doctor James Watson, who is the founder
of modern genetics, who has suggested that black people were
less intelligent than white people as and sorry when he
says that he said that he was the founder of
modern genetics, that's not me saying that. And he also
said that this man who said that black people were
less intelligent than white people was the greatest living American scientists.

(58:53):
And Bett has repeatedly said that black lawmakers, black policymakers,
black groups, and black people need to learn their place
and take a knee to maga.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
So he's recently said that, wow, yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
I'm sure again, I'm sure that was just his autism
or whatever. You know, you've got to understand he's socially awkward.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Oh dear.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
So, So we're now on February the fourth, and obviously,
you know it's a tumultuous time and such like this.
We've got the president deciding that you might try and
bypass Congress, and we'd even spoke about like putting people
in grant Anamo Bay.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Can remember that that was the thing. We've had people
who'd already been sort of picked up and and deported,
who weren't expected to be reported that that lady's husband
was deported because he refused to take his COVID vaccine YEP,
which the current Health Secretary of the United States of

(01:00:02):
America R. F. K. Junior, would tell him was a
good idea. What a tangled web we weave? Well, anyway,
someone came up with an idea that might sort of
at least provide a stop gap solution to some of

(01:00:23):
these problems.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I don't even want to guess.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
Well, I mean, you making it sound like it's gonna
be horrifical STUDI okay, okay, if the calm down, Brent,
all the American government was doing right was suggesting a
shipping prisoners and illegal immigrants or who they determined to
be illegal immigrants to the Mega jail in El Salvador.

(01:00:49):
You know, the one where it's like up to eighty
prisoners in each windowless cell, the one that's been completely
criticized by human rights groups where portions of of the
prisoner run by the prisoners themselves. Yeah. Salvadorian President Naib
Bukeley later affirmed on Twitter, specifying that we are willing

(01:01:12):
to take in convicted criminals, including convicted US citizens, into
our mega prison Seacot in exchange for a fee. Oh god, yeah,
I mean, isn't that I forget which one it is.
Is it MS thirteen or is it m S eighteen
or what's this self Salvadorian gang?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I think it's thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Yeah, there's a few, isn't like? But don't they come
from this prison system? Won't that increased the amount of
people who and those prisoners who are Americans who want
to go back there probably after their sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
This is even before like okay, we're just like potting,
like you're going to do what You're going to send
prisoners to a foreign that's known for human rights abuse.
That's where do you even start with? How wrong that is?
I mean again, that is that's police state. It's militarized
police state. Guess who thought it was a wicked idea?

(01:02:15):
Alex Jones, Alex Bloody Jones, and they both seemed to
think that this was only you know, practical solutions, you
know where we live in crazy times basically, And guess
who thought this was a bad idea?

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Charlie Kirk No, No, more conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Conspiracy God's son came good for once. Absolutely, yeah, nars
Escobar himself. David Ike pointed out somebody had had tweeted
out saying, you saying this about shipping incarcerated American citizens
to the El Salvadore Sea cop measure megaps. What if

(01:03:01):
you could be potentially be wrongfully convicted of a crime
you didn't commit and sent offshore to rot for taking
up too much space? And David Eyke was actually pretty sensible,
at least for a bit. He said, many people going
to grasp a musk is one sick man who is
now at the center of the US government without a

(01:03:21):
single vote in a single ballot box. People are aghast
at how many Germans so quickly turned Nazi in the
thirties and forties. It couldn't happen here, came to crime
from the United States. Oh but it can and it
is and millions of cheering And you know, that's actually
pretty sensible from David Eig, which is not a common

(01:03:44):
not a common occurrence really.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
But it's quite funny though that he had to use
it as a chance to attack mask again. Well, you know,
there are people poking with a stick for ages and
just will not get a response out of him.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Well, there are people that are suggesting that two things. One,
David somewhat brought this on himself by by coosing up
to all these people when it was clear that this
was the direction it was going. He now claims to
talk out against Trump and say that I've always been
suspicious of Trump, but fuck off, no, you weren't. You

(01:04:20):
made it absolutely clear that Hillary was the devil. Like
you didn't necessarily support Trump as much, but you made
it very clear, and a lot of people are forgetting that.
You encourage people to vote against Jeremy Corbyn. Again, you
didn't explicitly tell them to vote for Boris Johnson, but

(01:04:40):
you said that if you vote for one, you'll definitely
get Brexit, and if you vote for one, you definitely
won't get Brexit. And we want Brexit, so you should
vote for one of them, and that one was Boris Johnson.
So you can fuck off with this sanctimonious like, I've
always been above it, and I remember you being very

(01:05:02):
very pro Trump, because when I've briefly worked for David,
I made a point of being very very anti Trump,
just to be a dickhead and so you know, this
is it Like as I said, like David was sort
of sensible. But this doesn't always last. You see, other

(01:05:25):
people have noticed that these kind of trying to poke
Alex Jones, and people can't quite figure it out whether
they're what they're fighting about. A lot of people seem
to think that that David is just trying to get attention.
A lot of people think that he's trying to sort
of like create artificial beef or whatever. I'll tell you

(01:05:46):
what I think it is. It's that he's not getting
people aren't listening to him. It's not noble, he's not
actually I mean, he's pointed out the flaws, but a
fucking child could point out the floors. It's very obviou.
He's only saying this because people aren't listening to him.
People are swept up in it. They're listening to Elon

(01:06:07):
Musk and I experienced anybody that repeats the shit that
they say. Basically, it's six.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
And one half a dozen of the other of him,
like holding Alex in a way to account, like, hey,
you've kind of like pivoted on everything that we've ever
stood for. But he's doing it for selfish reasons because
he's the one who wants to be on top. He
wants to be king of the conspiracy Castle.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
But unfortunately, like sometimes, he lets his prejudice the show
and Alex Cherience is tweeted out for what the ddition
of the Alex Jones show. Panic Democrats have surrounded the
USA Federal Building in DC in a desperate attempt to
stop Elon Musk's doze from exposing massive fraud and money laundry,
and Alex's say, David has got a criticism of this,

(01:06:59):
but it comes from what can only be described as
a bit of a mental and probably racist angle because
he's not pointing out I'll just read the tweet. This
is Alex. I've skipped through your post since it was announced,
and I can't see anything about Trump giving another billion
in weapons to Israel. I thought you're all for cutting

(01:07:22):
government spending. And what about Trump's refusal to rule out
annexing of the West Bank. What do you think? Do
you ever post anything about Trump's plan to eject the
Palestinians to Egypt and Jordan? Maybe I missed it, And
this is one of those things where it's like you've
used a topic where you could have actually said something

(01:07:43):
quite sensible, and you've used it just to have a
go at Jewish people. And you can say I'm only
having a go at Israel and blah blah blah, and
it's nothing to do with Jewish people and it's foreign
policy and stuff like that. But fuck off, David. We've
read your books. We know what the concept is. You're
not bothered about the persecution of the Palestinian people per

(01:08:06):
se that you may be, but that's not your primary concern.
Your primary concern is that Israel is the most powerful
starting point to the new world order, and it's ruled
by the Rothschilds and created by the Rothschilds, neither of
which is true, as part of this global cult ideology

(01:08:28):
that apparently is also controlled by reptilian aliens from either
out of space or anything dimension. Let's not go pop
down in that, but essentially it ties into these concepts
of world communism, world Jewish power. And that is why
David is critical of Israel, not because of what they're

(01:08:49):
doing to the Palestinians, not because he feels that they're
being persecuted, not because he feels that the genocide. He
may think that, but this is nothing to do with that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Yeah, it's a bit of audience capture. He's trying to
pull in the people that are say on the left
or concerned about Palestine and people there, you know, so,
but he's trying to pull them in and then, like
you said, show them this overarching conspiracy that's actually going on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
Yeah, absolutely, because I think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
What David's always done, Like he's clever with those sorts
of people in. He did that with us. He did
say with me with the anti with the the Iraq
war stuff and showing us all the pictures of the
bombed children there and everything, and you're like, oh, this
is it's terrible. He does problem reaction solution in his talks.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Well, it also took me quite a long time to
actually acknowledge that quite a lot of the stuff that
he was saying was anti Semitic, aside from the Holocaust
denial stuff and whatnot, Like do you know, I mean
like it was when I was reading the Trigger, which
is just prior to me actually working with it and
reading it, and he's talking about the protocols as Elders
of Zion being real still and he's talking about definitions

(01:10:12):
of anti Semitism and stuff like that, and being hugely
anti Semitic in his criticism of these things. There are
legitimate criticisms of the definitions of anti semitism, and there
are also legitimate criticisms about how the concept could be
worked used, But there's also a huge amount of either

(01:10:32):
coded or over anti semitism in both the conspiracy world
and the wider political world. And so if a lot
of people might be by listening to this and going,
I don't think I don't think David was saying that.
I think he's genuinely talking about governments favoring it and

(01:10:52):
them doing terrible things. It's like there's an element of that.
But if you've read enough of David Likes books, you
understand what he thinks the state of Israel represents, who
it was founded by, and what he thinks that represents.
It's this concept of the new world order. So, yes,
so swinging to miss there from from David Ike basically,

(01:11:17):
but uh, yeah, what is it that we know about
Donald Trump? We know that he's a master negotiator, yeah,
and absolute master. He just wins. He can't help but win.
He just wins every time he does anything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Doesn't it he is the best at everything.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
He is hugely, bigly the best.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
He is the best at being a fascist asshole.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
That's well, you know, yeah, he achieves in multidisciplines, certainly. Absolutely.
What you agreed to do, right, right? You know, he
used to have this sort of trade wall with Canada. Well,
he agreed to cancel the tariffs. He says, like, you
know what, Mexico Canada, we're bros. We live quite close
to each other. Like, yeah, I'll cancelor these tariffs, but

(01:12:05):
in return, you both have to have at least ten
thousand troops on the border to fight illegal immigration and
to stop the flow of drugs. Now, the flow of drugs,
most of the drugs that come into the country actually

(01:12:25):
come in via sort of airports and mules and stuff
like that. They don't tend to come across the border.
More drugs goes into Canada than from America than comes
from Canada into America. Let's talk about prescription drugs that
people need to live and can't get due to the
fucking stupid American healthcare system. But we're not talking about
that anyway. So Donald Trump, master negotiator, says, all right,

(01:12:51):
we'll call it quits. If you make sure that there's
at least ten thousand troops on your border.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Question, Yeah, is he going to put twenty thousand on,
then ten thousand at the bottom, ten thousand at the
top too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
No, this is the point. What he's doing is he's
forcing these other countries' hands, and he's forcing them to
use their own resources to achieve what he wants to do.
He's the master negotiator, Brent.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
But you don't, okay, you don't want them people coming
into your house. You lock the door, right, you fend
people off, like it's not for my neighbors to do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:13:28):
Well, some people have pointed that at and some people
have pointed out an even bigger flaw in this particular plan, which,
by the way, was hailed by Alex Jones and everybody
that's a fan of Trump as both masterful negotiations and
a complete example of hardball, forcing people against their will

(01:13:54):
to do something that won't benefit them but will only
benefit you sheerly through the the force of your negotiating skills.
But some people pointed out that, yeah, they've already got
nearly fifteen thousand troops on each border. So Canada and

(01:14:14):
Mexico went yeah, we can do that. We'll get straight
onto it. Champ, all right, speak to you soon. Then
got off the phone, probably got onto the phone to
each other and went, you know is that Canada? Yeah, yes, Mexico.
This is fucking idiots us to do something that we're
already doing in exchange for something else. Fucking more on,
Absolutely fucking idiot. It also suggested that, basically, it also

(01:14:38):
suggested that it forced Canada to plump up one point
three billion dollars in order to other security measures that
would also make America safer from the scourge that was
coming over the Canadian border for ten actually on mounted

(01:15:01):
horses or moose even, who knows. But the problem was
that was this had already been negotiated again by Biden
last year, and so again he's taking credit for for
forcing them to do something that they'd agreed to happily
last year. So he crashed the stock market, he caused

(01:15:26):
an international scene, he embarrassed himself on an international level,
and cost his country a huge amount of money. I
need to negotiate to get back to the exact point
that they were at the day before he was president.
It's ridiculous. Now, the argument is that he's crashing the
stock market on purpose, but in order to benefits and

(01:15:51):
hedge fund managers and such like that. But regardless that that,
that's that's another sort of topic really, But yeah, master
Negotiator gets nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Do you know he didn't even write the art of
the deal?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
It didn't didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
One of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
That's the stupidest question you've ever asked.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
It is one of those things where when you say
it out loud, it does, so, Yeah, it just sounds
stupid than it did in my head. But yeah, it's
just an absolutely complete fraud. He's Donald Trump, and I
don't I do not understand why people continue to be
enamored with him. But Elon Musk basically continues to be

(01:16:43):
a bit of a racist tart. The latest thing that
he's sort of touched himself onto is South Africa and
the idea that in South Africa white people are persecuted.
It's a bit like the plot the Turler Diaries. Really,
there's this sort of conspiracy going around that black people

(01:17:03):
can murder white people with impunity, particularly farmers, and there
have been some instances of white people being murdered by
by black people in South Africa. And various other Southern
African countries. But a lot of that stems from the
fact that this land was stolen. It's not happened in

(01:17:25):
an isolated incident, and it doesn't happen nearly as much
as people try and make out. People try and make
out that South Africa is lawless and that essentially you're
a target if you're a white person simply for existing.
Someone called Jonathan Pallison tweeted out white South Africans are

(01:17:46):
being persecuted for their race in their home country. Also,
white South Africans are one of the few population groups
that are fiscally positive when immigrating to Europe. We should
allow more immigration of white South Africans and Elon musk
quite tweeted that out with the with the simple phrase yes, which.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
Is I mean standard.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
Yeah, it's just again, it's just grim all over the place,
isn't it Like it's it's dog whistling on all sorts
of levels. It's basically saying that white the obvious white
supremacy there is the concepts of the white persecution in
South Africa. And here's the stupid thing as well, right, okay,
is that being white isn't enough I know people are

(01:18:32):
pretending that at the minute, right okay, that it's not
immigration that we have a problem with. It's these Muslims
or these Pakistanis, or these Syrians or these these.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
These people that are culturally different.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
Yeah, absolutely, isn't it. Now I'm going to say that's
utter fucking ship. And I'm going to say that because
it's utter fucking ship. Are you we really like not
old enough to remember the persecution of remainings our Banians Poles?

(01:19:08):
I don't mind these Poles, all right, but they're coming
over here taking our jobs and doing it in a
far superior manner like I just like, you know, taking
four English people's jobs the Irish, for Christ's sake, it
wasn't so long ago that there were the signs in
English pubs saying no Blacks, no dogs, no Irish. So

(01:19:30):
if you're a black Irish, woar found, you were absolutely
no chance of getting in. Like But the point being
that's bonocks. People will gravitate towards something that they identify
with up until the point where the things that they
don't identify with outweigh that. Because people that have a
tendency to be to persecute and to be discriminatory. It

(01:19:54):
doesn't stop. It's like this thing at the minute where
a lot of gay people are being told you need
to ditch these trans people. Right, Okay, they're dragging you down.
They're the problem, right, They're they're they're the problem, and
you're going to lose rights because they're pushing it a
little bit too far. And aside from the fact that

(01:20:16):
that's hierarchies of people, which is an intrinsically fascist concepts
and idea, that's also bullshit because I'm sure that's happened before.
Like there's a joke that from Blazing Saddlers that speaks
to this, Okay, and I won't say the words, but
the point is that basically, like there was levels of slaves.

(01:20:37):
There was the Chinese, the Irish and black people, and
there were levels of how badly these people were treated,
whether they're indentured, whether they could get back into society afterwards.
But even even after that, like every time there's there's
an immigration of people, even religious persecution Jewish people them

(01:20:57):
is mostly white Jews get persecuted, All minorities get persecuted
because people persecute and it's tragic and it really really
should start and it's embarrassing. And here's the stupid thing.
It's like, it's such an arbitrary thing skin color, Like
why don't we put why don't we prejudicial on hair

(01:21:20):
color or eye color? Think about how fucking ridiculous that is, right, Okay,
the eyes of the idea that we would be racist
to somebody because they've got different colored eyes to you.
But essentially it's the same thing. It's just something that
we've picked. I mean, granted, it's quite a visual thing,

(01:21:41):
it's quite an apparent thing, right, okay, But but it's
it's daft. It really makes no sense at all under
the most basic scrutiny. And at the minute, we've got
politicians in the UK, we've got oligarchs in America, and

(01:22:01):
we've got entire political parties in America that are use
and Germany and Italy and various other places and Holland
that are using these stupid arbitrary differences in order to
sew division and create hatred and to change the world
in ways that is only going to benefit the very,

(01:22:25):
very wealthy. And it's a con game and people need
to get up and figure it out and like be
smarter than that, be smarter than that. Look at what
these fucking people are doing right, and don't stand for it,
basically because they will turn on you and destroy you
as quickly as they will turn on anyone else. Because
it's about selfishness and self centeredness and the idea that

(01:22:50):
anybody that goes against that, that community is bad, that
work is bad, that empathetic behavior is bad, and that's
just fucking bullshit. Is bullshit, But you know that's the
world according to sub