August 6, 2025 • 48 mins
In this profoundly moving episode of SOS Stories of Survivors, host Serina Dansker sits down with Christine Neidhart, a courageous mother whose journey through unspeakable heartbreak has led her to a life of renewed purpose, healing, and hope.
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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Hi everyone, and welcome back to SOS Stories of Survivors.
I'm your host, Serena Dansker, and this is a space
where we lean on each other for courage and resilience
during sometimes the darkest times of our lives. And today
I am so excited for you to meet my guest,
Christine Neatheart. Her story is one that is going to
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just blow your way. Imagine welcome a new baby into
your home only to learn that your child had a
life altering brain condition. Now that's really like just heartbreaking.
And then a few years later to have your spouse
suffer a debilitating stroke. Well, this is the path and
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the burden that Christine is carried. But she was a
former nurse and her instinct has always been to take
care of others. But when the crisis entered her home,
she transformed this pain into purpose. And she's going to
share her journey and how she did that and how
she now leads a thriving business with Orbon. It's a
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wellness business and she's guiding women through every stage of
life with honest and health centered care. Christine, Welcome. I'm
so happy to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Hi, Serena. Thank you for having me happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh my gosh. So we're going to just grab a
cup of tea, take a breath, and let's talk about
what your story is. I mean, I've known you for
a number of years, Christine, and I still my heart
like just breaks. And I'd like you to talk about
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when we go back to just your life before, you know,
when you were starting your family, and look back on
that day when you had your second child, and what
memories or feelings come into play. And maybe we'll start there.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, with every birth, it with joy, excitement, and you
know all the wonderful things you're imagining, and you were
very happy and until we weren't by the time he
was born, and no one suspected any issues or anything.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Second child, right, he was just right that he was.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
He was born a week before his dudate and everyone know,
but everything was fine. But he was having these little
jerky things, like like a little like a little almost
like hiccup it looked like. And Nathan was gird started
treating for gurd and I really wasn't sure, you know,
I had a little toddler at home, a new baby.
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I was, you know, recovering from a c section, and yeah,
about within a couple of weeks after that, then he
wound up having a food bow and seizure that obviously
we had called a doctor and we was about two
weeks time spent in the hospital. We were finally giving
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some sort of diagnoses and our whole world changed.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Wow. Wow, So that's just that's just crazy. So just
to you know, I mean, I gave birth to triplets,
and you know, I know what high risk pregnancy is like.
As we get older, you know, they are constantly monitoring you.
I'm sure you were monitored during your pregnant see and
the doctor everything seemed normal.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yep, no one suspected anything. There are no issues. So
we were all kind of blindsided when on his hospitalization
they did images, you know to find out what the
seizure as a standard thing, and they had me sit
down and once they showed me his images and told
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me what had happened.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I well, as a nurse, you you you get it,
you understand all of that. Yeah, my gosh, I and
how I can't even imagine how that I know, when
hearing ben is about a child, it just it just
it just it's gut wrenching, it is, so what was
your first thought. I mean, did you just decide, you
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know what we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Just that's kind of what I at first. I couldn't move,
I mean like literally, not literally figured I gathered myself,
you know, from the doctor telling me that you know,
he might not survive, he might not be able to
feed himself, walk, talk, anything. So we spent that It
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was like literally like a two week time in the hospital.
So by the time I got home, they already had
early interventions set up. We our house all of a
sudden got turned upside down with therapists and everybody coming
in constantly to help. Changed everything. And now my you know,
a little one and a half year old, he's like
what you know, he doesn't know any different, and it
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was just a path from there. But you know, thank god,
now you know he's a teenager now, believe it or not,
and he's shooting hoops getting three pointers.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So you have the resources. So you have a team, right,
So I'm gonna take it back to the beginning. So
you had a team, and and you know how how
did that shape you know, your your daily routine, you
know everything.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Let's you know that I wish I had a handbook
to kind of help that. And I'm hoping this will
help somebody else out there, because it was a bit
of chaos trying to navigate, you know, a brand new
baby with a toddler, having therapists in the house six
days a week, four different therapists on the therapist schedule,
not your schedule, you know, trying.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
To coordinated all. Did you coordinate it all?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, but between the therapists and our family and trying
to get it together. My husband, you know, trying to
you know, do the grocery shopping and stuff. Well I'm
trying to you know, manage them, and you know, so
it was it was a lot a lot of thank God.
I you know, my husband is a wonderful partner, and
we were able to you know, balance each other. Our
family is absolutely amazing. You know. We had friends step up,
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you know, you know, point us in the right direction. Resources,
I you know, a couple of you know, different you know,
books and other things that you know, helped get the
right mindset because setting that mindset was a big thing too,
because I didn't have the right mindset immediately. You know,
even being a healthcare provider, it's still like whoa you know,
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until you know it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You don't know anything. And because there was such a
rare brain condition, yes, there wasn't a lot of information
out there, right.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
No, not many people in the world are diagnosed with
such a thing, and.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're called what is? What is what he has called?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He has a genesis of his brain where part of
the brain just is not even there, and so the
part that's there, it's just constant shooting off activity to
coros seizures. So like your brain is always sparking, you know,
different you know, the neurons you're I don't know, I
don't want to get too technical, but if it doesn't
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have a place to connect to, it's just it's looking
for that connection and then that will trigger or see you.
So he was having these, you know, all the time,
and we're still actually just before I got on here
with you, we were booking his next EEG because he
has to still get constant you know, hospitalizations and monitoring,
medication monitoring and all that kind of stuff. But where
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was I going. Yes, so it's very rare. But because
of that, it's almost like like he had a stroke
in utero and the symptoms or that result that he
has a full hemipriesis so half his body does not
work quite as well as the other half. Luckily, with
all those resources and braces and training exercises and physical therapy,
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we're able to He's able to walk and do other
things that no one else expected him to do.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So that's I mean, this mustly you know. I mean
you picked your motherhood as being one way. How did
this change how you viewed motherhood? I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Crazy, It is really really crazy. And I actually I
wrote down with the poem we Welcome to Holland by
Emily Pearl Kingsling. If anybody out there knows anybody who's
new to the special community or has you know, some
kind of diagnosis or some something different with their child,
it almost applies to any aspect of life where you're
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it's about preparing and preparing and preparing for something with anticipation,
and all of a sudden, boo, you get thrown, you know,
in a different direction, and all of a sudden it's
your new reality and you got to learn, you know,
a whole new world, a whole new language, a whole
new community. Even because it's it's it's good and bad.
The community you see who comes through and who shrinks
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away because it and it is a difficult thing for
some people to handle. You know, some friends that became
stronger friends and some friends that just stood away. So
it's true.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I see that too in my world, you know, I
mean with losing my son, you know. And I don't
think it's personal. I think just people handle things differently.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yes, some know, you know, they want to be.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Involved and come to the forefront and and and you know,
be there for you. And there's others that it's truly
out of their wheelhouse. They just don't know how you
know the right things to do or say.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I always say you can never say the wrong
thing to the right person, and you can never say
the right thing to the wrong person. Kind of thing,
you know. So just if you if you feel it
in your heart, just say they know it's from the heart.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh I love that. I did. I mean many many
parents describe a moment when the doctor's you know, words
just blur together and the room goes silent, and you
know you found your footing, you know, pretty quickly. I
think after that, do you think it had to do
with your training as a nurse or just your your
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your the tiger the bear inside of you, the mama
beann are.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think we all have got mama bear. Yeah, but
I definitely I am very comfortable in a hospital. I
mean I been a hospital staff nurse for like twenty
plus years gosh, twenty five, you know, before I stepped
away from the bedside. Yeah, crazy, And so I'm very
very comfortable there where like my husband's like he steps
one foot into the hospital and he starts having a
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panic attack, you know, he hates hospitals. Yeah, but uh, yeah,
I was. It's a very comfortable environment for me to
be in a hospital. And then you know, so that
probably did take an edge off and probably you know,
was a little bit easier for me.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But so the lingo too, that was going on to me,
that is all Greek, the medical profession and the medications
and the drugs of the diseases. I I just I
can't you now. But yeah, so so talk a little
bit about that and and and and how did you
you you're toddler? I mean, as as they're growing together,
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how how is that impacting him?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know, I think we still even to today have
conversations about that. And because he didn't know any different then,
and as he got older and he started noticing actually
the community we're in the school district, we specifically moved
here for their programs because they have, like in our
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entire state are where we are, has like the best interventions,
you know, available for you. So a lot of his
neurotypical as they call them classes had a lot of
as they call them, pushing kids, which are kids with
needs into the classes. So he has been exposed at
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his whole entire life. Unfortunately, the program that my child did,
it was in a different elementary school than my other child,
so it was kind of weird having two kids like
a year and have a part in two different elementary
schools two different times too, you know, So that was
a little craziness too.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And that too, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, So it's like having kids in like elementary school
and middle school, high school, that's normal, but having two elementary
school kids and different things because all the activities are
the same day and anyway, he he had that exposure.
But at the same time, also sometimes his friends would
invite him to things and I couldn't take them because
we had a therapy session or there was something, or
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I have to get your brother here or there. Or
you know, and then sometimes it was uncomfortable for the
other parents, you know, so sometimes he missed out on
some things. But I think he also I mean, of
course I think he's amazing, but I think he's even
that much more like well rounded of a human being
because he has that extra empathy and that extra understanding
of people in general, whether they're neurotypical, special anything. He's
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got a special edge to him.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Now that's that's amazing. I mean it's I think you
the way you showed him, you know, the how to
relate to someone who needs, you know, special attention, and
and I think he just probably followed your your leadership.
You know, you're just You're amazing, Christine, I tell you,
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and I I know that a few years later that
your husband suffered a debilitating stroke when you're already carrying
so much, So I mean, how did this impact you?
I mean, I'm sure it was, you know, heart wrenching again.
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And how old were the kids when this happened. How
much time had passed, and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So they're middle school and high school now when this
first happens. But we were sort of preparing for it as
sad as it is, like not in a way like backstory, backstory, backstory, yeah, yeah, yeah,
week weeks before we got married. Actually we're married twenty
six years now. I can't believe we're congratulations. He had
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spinal surgery. Little did we know he had spinal cancer.
Uh corodroma again we are my husband. But he recovered
and we lived life like for ten years like thinking, oh,
you know, and that should have been my alert, like
always be prepared for something, you know. But thank god
that all resolved and we were fine. Then COVID happened
in the whole world. Everybody lives got turned up down.
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But then my husband got a cancer diagnosis then for
lung cancer, and I was totally not connected to the
spinal cancer. I think, thank goodness that turned out okay.
You know, we were able to do surgery and resolved
from that. So about a year after his lunk surgery,
we all wound up getting the flu. I've never had
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the flow of my entire life, none of us ever did.
We all got really sick and my husband, me and
my older son were feeling better. We went out to
get dinner. I have a family home movie night, and
we came home and my husband said, shortly after dinner
we're getting ready for torture movie, and he said, I
think I'm having a stroke and I couldn't believe it.
I'm like, what I did? You know? Quick stoke assessment
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as was calling ninety one one and he failed his
stroke assessment and the ambulance was there already and go
to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He knew the symptoms of it.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, And and we were ready to watch a
movie together as a family. So my older son, of course,
because he already has like I said, he's he's you know, special,
he's super in his own way that both my kids
are special. Right away, he took his brother, his younger brother,
to the other side of the house and he's like, Okay,
what do you need me to do? Mom, you know,
while the ambulance crew was coming in and stuff and
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and steff right, so they were like it was like
right in their face, you know. And it was, uh,
it was rough because he had a couple of massive
strokes all that night and we weren't sure where it
was going to go. He was on life support for
quite a while and for a while and then in
rehab for a couple of months and then finally home.
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So our life we're still mad and we're still trying
to figure it out because he still needs a lot
of help and very dependent on all of us, and
that's not like him. He usually he's usually never in
the house for more than eight hours, so that includes
his sleep time. You know, he's always on the go,
always doing something. So for him, it's a lot for
him to take. For the kids to see their dad,
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and but when dad's feeling a little bit down about that,
he's not himself. Even my little ones, his dad, You're
all that we need the way you are. You know,
it's like the amazing things that comes out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know, Oh I love that, you know, Oh that
is so sweet. Oh my gosh, he's going to act
you know, you know what, you know, what acts of
kindness or was there a particular act of kindness big
or small that reminds you that you're not alone in
all of this.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, well, I mean my kids have been amazing stepping
up and working through it through all their activities. One
it was really nice out of the blue, and my
husband friends from like elementary school, high school, you know,
you lose contact with that good person stepped up out
of nowhere to help make our house handicap accessible, yeah,
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because we needed there was no way of getting my
husband in the house when he came home from the hospital.
So we do a couple of modifications and he stepped
right up and off and I was like, oh my goodness,
like it was yeah, I can't thank him enough. So
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they're reconnected now, they you know, and it's wonderful, just
I mean, and so many people that stepped up and
they're helping, you know, with meals and other things. We
were running back and forth because even then when we
got them home from the hospital, we still take them
to therapy and you know, just like I do my
younger son, but all outpatients, you know, looking in a
wheelchair and everything else.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And then you still have the younger son that you're
still taking to places.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So still doing therapies and there.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And there's you know, there's angels that walk among us.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I I I definitely even my one son now in
high school, he's gonna be ready to go to college soon.
And one of our neighbors amazing stepping up, trying you know, okay,
what can I do to help you? You know, you know,
have you picked up your you know, got your list
together yet have you got your letter together yet? You know,
And it's just wonderful knowing these people are there, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That's gonna make them cry. That's beautiful. So I mean,
it's just it's lovely that you have community and where
you live. You know. It's just it's a testament to
the family that you guys are and people want to help,
they really do. Do you have a particular practice like
journaling or going to church or some kind of mindfulness
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that helps you keep your sanity?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I do. I try to journal, but I always wind
up falling asleep before I could finish a sentence. You
try to write about the end of the day, at
the beginning of the day, it's like, you know, and
I don't know, you know, it's like, oh, I look back, like, wow,
it's been three months since I wrote, you know. But
I every day, I probably constantly all the time. You know,
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I truly thank God every day for all our blessings
that we have. I mean, everybody has something. We have this.
You know, no one's life is easier, harder. It's the
life that you've been blessed with. And yeah, I so prayers, walking,
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walking in the fresh air, whether it's freezing cold or
you know, boiling hot. I try not to, but I
will bundle up and get out in the freezing cold
and get out for a good walk is always my
saving breath.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah. It clears the head when you walk, you know,
I find that too. I actually I missed my dog.
He passed and I used to just like to just
walk with him and just you know, this way, I
get the fresh air and it helps clear the cobwebs out.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You know, it does, it does?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It really does. Now. I know you've changed from being
your career as a nurse to an entrepreneur. And so
when did you first feel the poll to transition from
nursing to arbonn and can you talk about what arbonne
is and and and and all of that?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
All right, Well, it's kind of a load of question
when I felt the poll. I mean, every once in
a while, every nurse out there knows that's like, oh
my god, I'm leaving. You know, so many years and
I loved I mean labor and delivery, I mean there
you were for the once in a lifetime experience with
the family. Amazing. And I made this switch from labor
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and delivery to risk because I injured my wrists. I
couldn't even spike ivy bag, you know, trying to help
a mom. I I physically couldn't do it. So during
the recovery time, I went where I previous experience working
in rest management, so there was a position I said perfect.
I switched over, which was great, and just a couple
months later, COVID hit. So I was like, Okay, wow,
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that was like really good time with my part or
you know I was doing you know, working from a
computer instead of that. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, And everything went well.
But then my husband got sick with his lung cancer.
And I think it was almost it might be to
the day or the month after he got diagnosed with
lung cancer that I found ARBON. Like I had been
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looking for something to feel better. I had tried so
many different programs, did so many different things, and when
I found ARBON, it's like a holy attic health and
wellness company from the inside out. Like everybody to talk
about gut health is like the biggest latest. You know,
your gut is your second brain, or maybe it's your
first brain. Your brain is your second brain kind of,
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you know, and it had you know, a ninety day
money back guarantee. My friend like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
my friend convinced me to try a green drink and
I never looked back since I've never missed a day.
That first green drink. Within a month, my husband said,
it's like you seem happier. You know, You're in a
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good mood. You know. It's like, well, yeah, you know,
like everything just started flying in place, feeling better, having
more energy, all that other stuff. And little by little
I went and they have a whole thirty day program
and went in and that was all for myself, not
for business. I was still loving my job. I love
my coworkers. I still meet up with my coworkers even
though I'm not there anymore, because it was such a
great environment. You know. Sally was fine, but time wise
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with my family, I still don't even enough time for
my family what I'm to do right now. So it
worked out great that I had this option of turning
this into a business, and a little by little was
happening before I even knew it, because people were like, Christina,
you look great. What are you doing. I'm oh, arbon
here And I just gave them my link and they
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shopped and they felt great, and then they told their
friend and they told their friend and it was it
was growing without me even realizing it. And then all
of a sudden, like what am I doing? I could
keep growing this and be here for my family. Yeah,
And and it just bost them from there. I went
all in.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Wow, And and you went all in. And so now
you're leading a wellness business and you're supporting women, maybe
even more so than you did when you were a nurse,
you know, And how does that make you feel? I mean,
it's I know that you've already turned me on to
this lip bomb, and I have to tell you I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
This is one of my favorites. Well, oh gosh, it's
all my favorites. But yes, I love that it's a
big CORP certified company, so everything on there is like
beyond organic, beyond certifications, like so much testing that the
quality is far beyond anything I've ever come across. But
the other thing I like is like my one friend calls,
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is this all my gosh? My doctor said, whatever I'm doing,
keep doing My A one c has never been the best.
Like in is like when they do cmumuative blood sugars,
you know, for people who will have their blood sugar
that she's got hers in normal range. Another friend who
you know, got off PEPSI. I'm not giving any medical advice.
There's no medical guarantees. This is just.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That you're doing. And this is people's journeys and and and.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And mindset shifts. We have a whole community that helps
women like and men. There are men that also are
you know, clients and on my team, but that they
it's it's it's going from the inside out, so you
are what you eat. Kind of is the idea that
we have menu plans, registered titians, Uh bring specialists like
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I mean everything you could think of, head to toe estheticians.
So many people working on our team altogether to find
solutions to what might be bothering you or what you
want to prove in your life.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So are they zoom calls that you know we can join,
that you put out or how does it work?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We do? We have different communities, like right now we're
doing Radiate Radiate from within because we have our new
gummy multi vitamin. I call it like the little Funtain
of Wealth, I'm sorry, Fountain of Youth, which is a
fountain of wealth because it's amazing. It's uh all about
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your having your cells hydrate and having your skin glow
from within. But it's a whole community where women go
into the chat and you can just sit there and listen,
or you can participate. Sometimes we have fun games and stuff,
but that's just like one chat. Then we do like
planks and shakes, people like every day adding an extra
plank and making having your shake. We have all different
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diets like like recipes, carnivore, vegetarian, pescatilian, like whatever kind
of diet you follow. There's different menu plans. It's it's
larger than just a shake and a drink. But we
all just start with a drink. Then all of a
sudden we realize and we dive into the lip bomb next.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yes, I love the lip pluffing bomb. It's awesome. But yeah,
I talked to a lot of people about you know,
as we age and we get into our fifties and
we start having the hot sweats, probably even in your forties,
you know, for for those young younger women just beginning,
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and it lasts a long time, these hormony balances. So
we're always looking for things without having to take, you know, medication.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's our her core line. It's phenomenal without TMI. I
don't know if anybody's had to peel their their pj's off,
you know, in the middle of the night and get
a fresh pair of p js because they just sweated
so much, yes, sweat. I started there. They have a
system for each stage of your life, from cycle support
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to prenatal to perry menopausal menopausal support, and within about
a week or two, I didn't even think about it.
I just started the vitamins because I only share what
I love and if I don't use it, I don't
share it. So it was over four hundred products to share.
But within two weeks I woke up. I'm a my
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pajamas were bone dry at all last night, you know
that funny that you know, like, And I was just like, wow,
it really I never I saw all the studies you
know that they did, and I'm like, okay, but you know,
seeing us believe and experiencing it believing and I mean
I try everything obviously before sharing it, and everything has
its ninety day you know, guarantee money back whatever. That's
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why I started the Green Drink. But I was just
blown away and everybody I'm hearing about SWAN owners. You know,
raving about the shampoo and I'm like, wow, you know,
like it just makes you field just so you know. Yeah,
it's exciting when I hear people, you know, go back
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and tell me how great they're feeling and how much
impacting them. And I really do feel like I'm impacting
people's health more now than it was before because here
it was like here's this drug, this is a side effect,
and you know, this is what we're doing, and here's
you know, and I'm not saying if it wasn't for medicine,
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my son and my husband wouldn't be here, you know
what I mean. There's a place for everything in life,
but I try to do everything as like holistically and
naturally as possible, and that this company has everything we need.
That's wheat free, gluten free, that means soy free, everything's vegan.
I'm not vegan, but all the products are vegan, which
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also just means it's one step higher because things that
are not vegan, even though it's a piece of makeup
you're not consuming, there could be like what we call roadkill,
like and is the companies buy they mailed it down
and that's what they use for the ingredients for like
fats and stuff they relabel a different prettier name.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I yeah, we won't go there, won't keep up.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But I'm glad it's be And so that's one thing,
one last thing to have to worry about. Oh my gosh,
I think that that's incredible what you're doing. And I mean,
do you have a piece of advice for listeners overwhelmed,
you know, just by caregiving like you do or burning
out maybe one gentle, doable first step toward reclaiming their health.
(30:37):
Is there something you recommend I.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Through trialent error, through my bad experiences, I'll share with
you guys. You know, like when I feel myself like
ready to explode, like oh my gosh, you know, I
go to snap at you know, one of my kids, like,
oh my gosh, that's that's not it. You know, just
take a breath. And one of the things to having
especially is they go through all different kind of things
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telling them, teaching them how to, you know, decompress, and
the parents how to decompress. And he'll remember the tools.
But remember, mom, stop and take a breath, you know,
and then and you know, but it's it's true. You
stop and take a breath, Do a stretch, and sometimes
you can't even find that five minutes in a day
for yourself. Just go to the bathroom and take one
extra minute in that bathroom. Don't open the door, and
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so you've taken a breath, cleared your mind. Do a stretch.
I like one where you just lean against the wall,
like a push up against the wall, and you just
push and stress and push the stress away, let it
release from your shoulders, shake it, and then walk out
of the room, you know, refreshed. I mean that's a
simple sid if you have time to quick run around
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the block or you know, but sometimes you can't always
get away.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You know, they follow sometimes I remember they follow me
into the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I'm like, no, yes, dogs even they bust open the
door and excuse.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Me exactly the dog goes in like waitings and he
comments like the dog okay.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Try to find your time, trying to find that five minutes,
but wherever you can to take that time, because I mean, again,
like they say, when you get an airplane, you know,
you got to the oxygen masking yourself first, or you're
not gonna be any good to anybody else. Yeah, trying
to remember that as well in whatever it is that
helps you feel better, put a smile on your face,
a funny joke. Laughter is the best medicine, you know,
(32:27):
little kids left all the time. Adults, how many times
do you belly laugh? You know that belly laughing is
good for your immune system, It's good for everything. Make
sure you belly laugh every day.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I love that, I doo, I love that yours. You're
just so beautiful, Oh my gosh. And I talk a
little bit about, you know, how you bring that love
of life into your relationship with your husband who's he's suffering,
you know, through the stroke, and it's it's your relationship
is different now than it was even when he had
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the cancer diagnosis. And what does that look like? How
do you we learned to connect while navigating his recovery.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know, it's it's I mean, it's a challenge still.
I mean every day, I mean, every marriage is a challenge,
no matter what's going on. Yeah, but I mean being
it's such a like I said, he never was like
in the house more than eight hours a day ever,
always on the road. Now that he's here all the time,
it's it's hard on him, you know. I mean we've
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always been friends. We've always been great partners. We've always
balanced it, you know, and and we kind of worked that.
I mean, I mean I look back and thinking, like,
like after nine to eleven, a lot of people change,
Like we never ever leave each other without saying I
love you, like even even even before that, like if
we ever, you know, had an argument or something, you know,
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like the whole thing. You never go to bed angry.
We've always you know, I love you. I don't care
if I'm sitting in puddle mud. I'd rather sit in
a puddle mud with you than without your kind of thing,
you know. And no matter what, Yeah, we're always friends
and always you know, have that no matter what that
we leave everything in a positive note.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, that's it. That's just beautiful. And I think you know,
how you communicate, you know, it doesn't always have to
be in words or the way it used to be.
You know, love shines through I think in every act
and every expression and and just you know, everything you
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do for each other, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
And I know his.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Mobility is limited, but I'm sure he's encouraging you every
step of the way.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Before I got on here, go have a blast.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I love him he's so sweet. That's awesome. If you
could sit with a parent who just received a scary
diagnosis for their child, what truth would you whisper to them?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I always have hope, and not everything's always going to
turn out the way you want it to be. Sometimes
it turns out better. Sometimes there's a different silver lining
or different meaning that needs to be learned from it.
But always have hope because what they tell you isn't
always true with certain diagnoses. Like I said, they weren't
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sure if my son would eat, sit up, or walk,
And now he you know, he was a mom gay
pizza for lunch, you know, just right exactly. He loves baskets,
his favorites and he you know, we have them on
you know, it's it's special leagues. But he's on the basketball, baseball.
You know, we did we did the equine therapist and
(35:40):
SE's three years old riding the horses. You know, it's
always just you know, take a step forward, take another
step forward that you know, take another direction. That door closes,
open another door, that closes, open another door, and if
all the doors are closed, build your own door and
like you know, bust out of the room, because that's right.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's it. You got to break it down, break through
the wall, whatever it takes. I love that. Is there
any like resources or communities, things that made the biggest
difference for you and your family that maybe people just
don't know exist or know about you. Do you have
any hints like that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh my god, there are so many. I mean, if anybody,
I mean, they could contact me through my website, whatever,
but contact me just even just about that, not even
you know, any question on special needs, because there is
so I'm still learning, I mean, especially as he's getting
older and different things. Each community, like where I live,
their their early intervention community. They have so many resources.
(36:43):
They will direct you, especially if it's a young child
like pre kindergarten age, they will have a caseworker come
help you find and navigate your community's resources as they
once they get into school, the schools will all have
You need to ask though, whatever your concern is. You
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might not know what it is you need, or you
might not know what resources is there. But when you ask,
then you will find out. And even still just last
year when everything was turning it well upside down for
us with my husband and my child, the school psychologists
school to check on us and said, oh we have this,
(37:24):
and I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that was possible.
You know, kind of a thing like you know different
you know, resources in the community that are available. So
just always ask there's somebody. I mean, there's so many
good people in the world, Like you know, people complain
about this or that. There's so much more good than anything,
and it is there. Ask your school, ask your pediatrician.
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It's there. And depending what town you're in, there's different
resources and depending what state you're in even more so
different resources. But you got to be vocal, right, you know,
the private communities, there's like for us, there's epilepsy groups,
there's cyberquals groups, there's you know, stroke survivor groups. There's
there's so many different places that yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Go, oh that's so great. I'm gonna switch gears a
little bit and try and lighten things up. And can
you tell me about a song maybe that you play
that gives you your lift or that that always makes
you happier smile?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, I drive everybody crazy, but everyon's make it in
the car. I always my kaylav on Christian contemporary rock
music whatever, John Reddick has no fear. I sometimes have
to scream that out at times because it's a it's
a great song and uh and I think he actually
wrote it about or or during the time that his
(38:46):
wife was going through an illness too, So you know,
really I like that song. And there's there's a couple
of different songs King Country. They have a couple of
songs that really get me going and up and.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, it's awesome. We have a little dance party.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Is there a a book maybe that that fills your
cup or a book you'd recommend. I'm sure there's many,
but one that that you can recall.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well, the first one that really helped me was The
Brain That Heels Itself because that was one of the
first books I read about for my son. But there's
been hundreds of books that have been helpful. Luckily, you know,
we have we living a time that there's a lot
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of available out there for us. But I would probably
say that was probably my favorite book. It's amazing what
the blank brain could do, or the plasticity and for
all of us, not just someone, we could all keep
going more and more.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I know, I know. What how
about your go to comfort meal pizza. I love pizzas.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Easy and delicious.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Oh my gosh, all right, here's one. Here's this the
good one for you. What's a five minute self care
habit that you swear by.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Probably to reset my whole mood, Like that spat time
in the shower. Yeah, like like took like washed that
day right out of your hair. It really does it.
You know. I get in there with all my stuff
and I feel like a new woman, you know, within
like thirty minutes. It's like, Wow, I've been reborn.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I love that. All right. What's one thing that you're
really excited about right now? Right now?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Gosh, I'm so excited about getting my one son ready
for college, getting my other well soon next year, and
you know, but that journey of trying to find out
where we're going, my other son getting ready to go
to high school, my business is booming, getting ready to
go to the next level there, and trying to see
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what the next adventure is going to be for our family,
trying to plan it all out all right, and finish
the sentence.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Hope to me is.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Love is like the first word that comes in mind.
I don't know why, but I think with love, anything
as possible. So hope is there.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I love that I do. I think that's beautiful. And
when you picture your family five years from now, what
do you see that fills you with all of that hope?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I see my boys will smiling together and having fun
and maybe own an adventure somewhere.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
And if our listeners can remember only one thing from
your journey, what do you want that takeaway to be?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Never give up, Always move forward. Always know tomorrow it's
going to be a better day. No matter where you are,
it's always a better day tomorrow. Even if tomorrow's the
worst day, it's going to get better the next day.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Do you get through the worst days? Don't you? You know?
Sometimes you don't think in the moment that you're going to,
but by putting that one foot in front of the other,
you do.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
You get through it and you get to the next day,
and just surprise yourself.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You do all the time. I surprise myself by doing that.
And very importantly, Christine, very slowly, I want you to
tell our listeners how they can reach out to you
to support you and learn more about Arbond, but also
learn about your journey and all the wonderful tidbits that
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you have for information, So okay, go for it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
So you can contact me at Christine need Heart. So
that's my name hrst I n e I d hr
T and so it's Christine Needthart dot arbond dot com.
Is rbron A r B O N n E. So
Christine Neeedheart dot arbon dot com. And you just click
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contact me and I'll be happy to get back to
you about anything you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Ah, that sounds awesome, Christine. And I know that Christine
believes so deeply in supporting women's health that she will
have a discount if you do order through her, But
send her a contact and she'll tell you about the discount.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
And I end each interview with one of my sons,
Scott's poems.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And I picked this poem because it's about trying to
be free but feeling confined, and you can hear it
in his words. It's I just thought it related a
little bit to the situation that both your husband and
your son, you know, feel at times, and and actually,
frankly all of us feel at times. So bear with
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me here as I read it to you. To the
beautiful town.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Of mine that falls to its own demise, Yes, there are.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Substitutes for happiness, caffeine, marijuana, nicotine. But I still don't
believe the fight I make to survive in a town
where I don't subside into some random compromise where everything
and everyone is okay because they're not. People are faking it,
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parents are making it. All you gotta do is match everyone,
or else you will be forsaken it. You got to
dress like them, you got to talk like them, you
got to walk like them, because that's the only way
to survive in a town where everything is afraid of everyone. Now,
if you try to defy these rules that have been
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locked up tight, and you try to spread your wings,
you try to fly, you'll be shot down by everyone
you know and love. Because if you see like I see,
then you will see right through the lies that are
hidden behind this beautiful town of mine, and you will see.
You can't spread your wings and you cannot fly. But
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if your color isn't the same as line paper, and
the Holy Lord Jesus Christ ain't by your side, you
will be rejected, neglected, and never respected. There is too
much restraint holding me back to be the best person
I can be and strive to be. Too many people
(45:34):
say I'm wrong when I know I'm right. I'm tired
of being like everyone else when I know I can
be better. It's time to get my hands wetter, perform better,
and fight back because if I try hard enough, everyone
will be a forgetter. They will forget those times when
I messed up, fest up and I didn't dress up
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because they don't want to match everyone else. But I
have to. It's not a choice anymore. It's indeed, I
can't catch that speed that I need to succeed if
I left this town. Drag me down fifteen years old,
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he had a lot to say. You know, it's one
of those poems that I'm like, wow, you know, I
try and take it all in, but you can see that,
you know, just feeling constrained, just not being able to
be who you are because you're constrained and whatever way
into your body and by limited by the town that
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you live in, or you know, just what fate has
in store for you. It's just really really interesting.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
And I want to tell our SOS community.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
That Christine and story hope and inspires you and that
you take advantage of her generous offers and know that
she is resilience like the definition of it. She is
such a beautiful soul in person and I feel so
blessed to have had you on my show and I
(47:19):
can't thank you enough. And please join us next week
on SOS Stories of Survivors, where survival sparks the soul.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Thank you so much, Thank you three
Hi everyone, and welcome back to SOS Stories of Survivors.
I'm your host, Serena Dansker, and this is a space
where we lean on each other for courage and resilience
during sometimes the darkest times of our lives. And today
I am so excited for you to meet my guest,
Christine Neatheart. Her story is one that is going to
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just blow your way. Imagine welcome a new baby into
your home only to learn that your child had a
life altering brain condition. Now that's really like just heartbreaking.
And then a few years later to have your spouse
suffer a debilitating stroke. Well, this is the path and
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the burden that Christine is carried. But she was a
former nurse and her instinct has always been to take
care of others. But when the crisis entered her home,
she transformed this pain into purpose. And she's going to
share her journey and how she did that and how
she now leads a thriving business with Orbon. It's a
(01:39):
wellness business and she's guiding women through every stage of
life with honest and health centered care. Christine, Welcome. I'm
so happy to have you.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Hi, Serena. Thank you for having me happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh my gosh. So we're going to just grab a
cup of tea, take a breath, and let's talk about
what your story is. I mean, I've known you for
a number of years, Christine, and I still my heart
like just breaks. And I'd like you to talk about
(02:15):
when we go back to just your life before, you know,
when you were starting your family, and look back on
that day when you had your second child, and what
memories or feelings come into play. And maybe we'll start there.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Well, with every birth, it with joy, excitement, and you
know all the wonderful things you're imagining, and you were
very happy and until we weren't by the time he
was born, and no one suspected any issues or anything.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Second child, right, he was just right that he was.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
He was born a week before his dudate and everyone know,
but everything was fine. But he was having these little
jerky things, like like a little like a little almost
like hiccup it looked like. And Nathan was gird started
treating for gurd and I really wasn't sure, you know,
I had a little toddler at home, a new baby.
(03:17):
I was, you know, recovering from a c section, and yeah,
about within a couple of weeks after that, then he
wound up having a food bow and seizure that obviously
we had called a doctor and we was about two
weeks time spent in the hospital. We were finally giving
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some sort of diagnoses and our whole world changed.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Wow. Wow, So that's just that's just crazy. So just
to you know, I mean, I gave birth to triplets,
and you know, I know what high risk pregnancy is like.
As we get older, you know, they are constantly monitoring you.
I'm sure you were monitored during your pregnant see and
the doctor everything seemed normal.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yep, no one suspected anything. There are no issues. So
we were all kind of blindsided when on his hospitalization
they did images, you know to find out what the
seizure as a standard thing, and they had me sit
down and once they showed me his images and told
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me what had happened.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I well, as a nurse, you you you get it,
you understand all of that. Yeah, my gosh, I and
how I can't even imagine how that I know, when
hearing ben is about a child, it just it just
it just it's gut wrenching, it is, so what was
your first thought. I mean, did you just decide, you
(04:52):
know what we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Just that's kind of what I at first. I couldn't move,
I mean like literally, not literally figured I gathered myself,
you know, from the doctor telling me that you know,
he might not survive, he might not be able to
feed himself, walk, talk, anything. So we spent that It
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was like literally like a two week time in the hospital.
So by the time I got home, they already had
early interventions set up. We our house all of a
sudden got turned upside down with therapists and everybody coming
in constantly to help. Changed everything. And now my you know,
a little one and a half year old, he's like
what you know, he doesn't know any different, and it
(05:38):
was just a path from there. But you know, thank god,
now you know he's a teenager now, believe it or not,
and he's shooting hoops getting three pointers.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So you have the resources. So you have a team, right,
So I'm gonna take it back to the beginning. So
you had a team, and and you know how how
did that shape you know, your your daily routine, you
know everything.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Let's you know that I wish I had a handbook
to kind of help that. And I'm hoping this will
help somebody else out there, because it was a bit
of chaos trying to navigate, you know, a brand new
baby with a toddler, having therapists in the house six
days a week, four different therapists on the therapist schedule,
not your schedule, you know, trying.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
To coordinated all. Did you coordinate it all?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, but between the therapists and our family and trying
to get it together. My husband, you know, trying to
you know, do the grocery shopping and stuff. Well I'm
trying to you know, manage them, and you know, so
it was it was a lot a lot of thank God.
I you know, my husband is a wonderful partner, and
we were able to you know, balance each other. Our
family is absolutely amazing. You know. We had friends step up,
(06:51):
you know, you know, point us in the right direction. Resources,
I you know, a couple of you know, different you know,
books and other things that you know, helped get the
right mindset because setting that mindset was a big thing too,
because I didn't have the right mindset immediately. You know,
even being a healthcare provider, it's still like whoa you know,
(07:13):
until you know it.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You don't know anything. And because there was such a
rare brain condition, yes, there wasn't a lot of information
out there, right.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
No, not many people in the world are diagnosed with
such a thing, and.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're called what is? What is what he has called?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
He has a genesis of his brain where part of
the brain just is not even there, and so the
part that's there, it's just constant shooting off activity to
coros seizures. So like your brain is always sparking, you know,
different you know, the neurons you're I don't know, I
don't want to get too technical, but if it doesn't
(07:54):
have a place to connect to, it's just it's looking
for that connection and then that will trigger or see you.
So he was having these, you know, all the time,
and we're still actually just before I got on here
with you, we were booking his next EEG because he
has to still get constant you know, hospitalizations and monitoring,
medication monitoring and all that kind of stuff. But where
(08:17):
was I going. Yes, so it's very rare. But because
of that, it's almost like like he had a stroke
in utero and the symptoms or that result that he
has a full hemipriesis so half his body does not
work quite as well as the other half. Luckily, with
all those resources and braces and training exercises and physical therapy,
(08:37):
we're able to He's able to walk and do other
things that no one else expected him to do.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
So that's I mean, this mustly you know. I mean
you picked your motherhood as being one way. How did
this change how you viewed motherhood? I mean it's.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Crazy, It is really really crazy. And I actually I
wrote down with the poem we Welcome to Holland by
Emily Pearl Kingsling. If anybody out there knows anybody who's
new to the special community or has you know, some
kind of diagnosis or some something different with their child,
it almost applies to any aspect of life where you're
(09:15):
it's about preparing and preparing and preparing for something with anticipation,
and all of a sudden, boo, you get thrown, you know,
in a different direction, and all of a sudden it's
your new reality and you got to learn, you know,
a whole new world, a whole new language, a whole
new community. Even because it's it's it's good and bad.
The community you see who comes through and who shrinks
(09:36):
away because it and it is a difficult thing for
some people to handle. You know, some friends that became
stronger friends and some friends that just stood away. So
it's true.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I see that too in my world, you know, I
mean with losing my son, you know. And I don't
think it's personal. I think just people handle things differently.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yes, some know, you know, they want to be.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Involved and come to the forefront and and and you know,
be there for you. And there's others that it's truly
out of their wheelhouse. They just don't know how you
know the right things to do or say.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I always say you can never say the wrong
thing to the right person, and you can never say
the right thing to the wrong person. Kind of thing,
you know. So just if you if you feel it
in your heart, just say they know it's from the heart.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Oh I love that. I did. I mean many many
parents describe a moment when the doctor's you know, words
just blur together and the room goes silent, and you
know you found your footing, you know, pretty quickly. I
think after that, do you think it had to do
with your training as a nurse or just your your
(10:48):
your the tiger the bear inside of you, the mama
beann are.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
I think we all have got mama bear. Yeah, but
I definitely I am very comfortable in a hospital. I
mean I been a hospital staff nurse for like twenty
plus years gosh, twenty five, you know, before I stepped
away from the bedside. Yeah, crazy, And so I'm very
very comfortable there where like my husband's like he steps
one foot into the hospital and he starts having a
(11:14):
panic attack, you know, he hates hospitals. Yeah, but uh, yeah,
I was. It's a very comfortable environment for me to
be in a hospital. And then you know, so that
probably did take an edge off and probably you know,
was a little bit easier for me.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
But so the lingo too, that was going on to me,
that is all Greek, the medical profession and the medications
and the drugs of the diseases. I I just I
can't you now. But yeah, so so talk a little
bit about that and and and and how did you
you you're toddler? I mean, as as they're growing together,
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how how is that impacting him?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
You know, I think we still even to today have
conversations about that. And because he didn't know any different then,
and as he got older and he started noticing actually
the community we're in the school district, we specifically moved
here for their programs because they have, like in our
(12:14):
entire state are where we are, has like the best interventions,
you know, available for you. So a lot of his
neurotypical as they call them classes had a lot of
as they call them, pushing kids, which are kids with
needs into the classes. So he has been exposed at
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his whole entire life. Unfortunately, the program that my child did,
it was in a different elementary school than my other child,
so it was kind of weird having two kids like
a year and have a part in two different elementary
schools two different times too, you know, So that was
a little craziness too.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
And that too, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, So it's like having kids in like elementary school
and middle school, high school, that's normal, but having two elementary
school kids and different things because all the activities are
the same day and anyway, he he had that exposure.
But at the same time, also sometimes his friends would
invite him to things and I couldn't take them because
we had a therapy session or there was something, or
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I have to get your brother here or there. Or
you know, and then sometimes it was uncomfortable for the
other parents, you know, so sometimes he missed out on
some things. But I think he also I mean, of
course I think he's amazing, but I think he's even
that much more like well rounded of a human being
because he has that extra empathy and that extra understanding
of people in general, whether they're neurotypical, special anything. He's
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got a special edge to him.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Now that's that's amazing. I mean it's I think you
the way you showed him, you know, the how to
relate to someone who needs, you know, special attention, and
and I think he just probably followed your your leadership.
You know, you're just You're amazing, Christine, I tell you,
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and I I know that a few years later that
your husband suffered a debilitating stroke when you're already carrying
so much, So I mean, how did this impact you?
I mean, I'm sure it was, you know, heart wrenching again.
(14:22):
And how old were the kids when this happened. How
much time had passed, and.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So they're middle school and high school now when this
first happens. But we were sort of preparing for it as
sad as it is, like not in a way like backstory, backstory, backstory, yeah, yeah, yeah,
week weeks before we got married. Actually we're married twenty
six years now. I can't believe we're congratulations. He had
(14:53):
spinal surgery. Little did we know he had spinal cancer.
Uh corodroma again we are my husband. But he recovered
and we lived life like for ten years like thinking, oh,
you know, and that should have been my alert, like
always be prepared for something, you know. But thank god
that all resolved and we were fine. Then COVID happened
in the whole world. Everybody lives got turned up down.
(15:15):
But then my husband got a cancer diagnosis then for
lung cancer, and I was totally not connected to the
spinal cancer. I think, thank goodness that turned out okay.
You know, we were able to do surgery and resolved
from that. So about a year after his lunk surgery,
we all wound up getting the flu. I've never had
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the flow of my entire life, none of us ever did.
We all got really sick and my husband, me and
my older son were feeling better. We went out to
get dinner. I have a family home movie night, and
we came home and my husband said, shortly after dinner
we're getting ready for torture movie, and he said, I
think I'm having a stroke and I couldn't believe it.
I'm like, what I did? You know? Quick stoke assessment
(15:59):
as was calling ninety one one and he failed his
stroke assessment and the ambulance was there already and go
to the hospital.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
He knew the symptoms of it.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, And and we were ready to watch a
movie together as a family. So my older son, of course,
because he already has like I said, he's he's you know, special,
he's super in his own way that both my kids
are special. Right away, he took his brother, his younger brother,
to the other side of the house and he's like, Okay,
what do you need me to do? Mom, you know,
while the ambulance crew was coming in and stuff and
(16:32):
and steff right, so they were like it was like
right in their face, you know. And it was, uh,
it was rough because he had a couple of massive
strokes all that night and we weren't sure where it
was going to go. He was on life support for
quite a while and for a while and then in
rehab for a couple of months and then finally home.
(16:52):
So our life we're still mad and we're still trying
to figure it out because he still needs a lot
of help and very dependent on all of us, and
that's not like him. He usually he's usually never in
the house for more than eight hours, so that includes
his sleep time. You know, he's always on the go,
always doing something. So for him, it's a lot for
him to take. For the kids to see their dad,
(17:16):
and but when dad's feeling a little bit down about that,
he's not himself. Even my little ones, his dad, You're
all that we need the way you are. You know,
it's like the amazing things that comes out of his mouth.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You know, Oh I love that, you know, Oh that
is so sweet. Oh my gosh, he's going to act
you know, you know what, you know, what acts of
kindness or was there a particular act of kindness big
or small that reminds you that you're not alone in
all of this.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, well, I mean my kids have been amazing stepping
up and working through it through all their activities. One
it was really nice out of the blue, and my
husband friends from like elementary school, high school, you know,
you lose contact with that good person stepped up out
of nowhere to help make our house handicap accessible, yeah,
(18:12):
because we needed there was no way of getting my
husband in the house when he came home from the hospital.
So we do a couple of modifications and he stepped
right up and off and I was like, oh my goodness,
like it was yeah, I can't thank him enough. So
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they're reconnected now, they you know, and it's wonderful, just
I mean, and so many people that stepped up and
they're helping, you know, with meals and other things. We
were running back and forth because even then when we
got them home from the hospital, we still take them
to therapy and you know, just like I do my
younger son, but all outpatients, you know, looking in a
wheelchair and everything else.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
And then you still have the younger son that you're
still taking to places.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
So still doing therapies and there.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
And there's you know, there's angels that walk among us.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
I I I definitely even my one son now in
high school, he's gonna be ready to go to college soon.
And one of our neighbors amazing stepping up, trying you know, okay,
what can I do to help you? You know, you know,
have you picked up your you know, got your list
together yet have you got your letter together yet? You know,
And it's just wonderful knowing these people are there, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That's gonna make them cry. That's beautiful. So I mean,
it's just it's lovely that you have community and where
you live. You know. It's just it's a testament to
the family that you guys are and people want to help,
they really do. Do you have a particular practice like
journaling or going to church or some kind of mindfulness
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that helps you keep your sanity?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I do. I try to journal, but I always wind
up falling asleep before I could finish a sentence. You
try to write about the end of the day, at
the beginning of the day, it's like, you know, and
I don't know, you know, it's like, oh, I look back, like, wow,
it's been three months since I wrote, you know. But
I every day, I probably constantly all the time. You know,
(20:12):
I truly thank God every day for all our blessings
that we have. I mean, everybody has something. We have this.
You know, no one's life is easier, harder. It's the
life that you've been blessed with. And yeah, I so prayers, walking,
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walking in the fresh air, whether it's freezing cold or
you know, boiling hot. I try not to, but I
will bundle up and get out in the freezing cold
and get out for a good walk is always my
saving breath.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah. It clears the head when you walk, you know,
I find that too. I actually I missed my dog.
He passed and I used to just like to just
walk with him and just you know, this way, I
get the fresh air and it helps clear the cobwebs out.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
You know, it does, it does?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It really does. Now. I know you've changed from being
your career as a nurse to an entrepreneur. And so
when did you first feel the poll to transition from
nursing to arbonn and can you talk about what arbonne
is and and and and all of that?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
All right, Well, it's kind of a load of question
when I felt the poll. I mean, every once in
a while, every nurse out there knows that's like, oh
my god, I'm leaving. You know, so many years and
I loved I mean labor and delivery, I mean there
you were for the once in a lifetime experience with
the family. Amazing. And I made this switch from labor
(21:48):
and delivery to risk because I injured my wrists. I
couldn't even spike ivy bag, you know, trying to help
a mom. I I physically couldn't do it. So during
the recovery time, I went where I previous experience working
in rest management, so there was a position I said perfect.
I switched over, which was great, and just a couple
months later, COVID hit. So I was like, Okay, wow,
(22:09):
that was like really good time with my part or
you know I was doing you know, working from a
computer instead of that. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, And everything went well.
But then my husband got sick with his lung cancer.
And I think it was almost it might be to
the day or the month after he got diagnosed with
lung cancer that I found ARBON. Like I had been
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looking for something to feel better. I had tried so
many different programs, did so many different things, and when
I found ARBON, it's like a holy attic health and
wellness company from the inside out. Like everybody to talk
about gut health is like the biggest latest. You know,
your gut is your second brain, or maybe it's your
first brain. Your brain is your second brain kind of,
(22:52):
you know, and it had you know, a ninety day
money back guarantee. My friend like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,
my friend convinced me to try a green drink and
I never looked back since I've never missed a day.
That first green drink. Within a month, my husband said,
it's like you seem happier. You know, You're in a
(23:12):
good mood. You know. It's like, well, yeah, you know,
like everything just started flying in place, feeling better, having
more energy, all that other stuff. And little by little
I went and they have a whole thirty day program
and went in and that was all for myself, not
for business. I was still loving my job. I love
my coworkers. I still meet up with my coworkers even
though I'm not there anymore, because it was such a
great environment. You know. Sally was fine, but time wise
(23:35):
with my family, I still don't even enough time for
my family what I'm to do right now. So it
worked out great that I had this option of turning
this into a business, and a little by little was
happening before I even knew it, because people were like, Christina,
you look great. What are you doing. I'm oh, arbon
here And I just gave them my link and they
(23:56):
shopped and they felt great, and then they told their
friend and they told their friend and it was it
was growing without me even realizing it. And then all
of a sudden, like what am I doing? I could
keep growing this and be here for my family. Yeah,
And and it just bost them from there. I went
all in.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Wow, And and you went all in. And so now
you're leading a wellness business and you're supporting women, maybe
even more so than you did when you were a nurse,
you know, And how does that make you feel? I mean,
it's I know that you've already turned me on to
this lip bomb, and I have to tell you I'm hooked.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
This is one of my favorites. Well, oh gosh, it's
all my favorites. But yes, I love that it's a
big CORP certified company, so everything on there is like
beyond organic, beyond certifications, like so much testing that the
quality is far beyond anything I've ever come across. But
the other thing I like is like my one friend calls,
(24:59):
is this all my gosh? My doctor said, whatever I'm doing,
keep doing My A one c has never been the best.
Like in is like when they do cmumuative blood sugars,
you know, for people who will have their blood sugar
that she's got hers in normal range. Another friend who
you know, got off PEPSI. I'm not giving any medical advice.
There's no medical guarantees. This is just.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
That you're doing. And this is people's journeys and and and.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And mindset shifts. We have a whole community that helps
women like and men. There are men that also are
you know, clients and on my team, but that they
it's it's it's going from the inside out, so you
are what you eat. Kind of is the idea that
we have menu plans, registered titians, Uh bring specialists like
(25:47):
I mean everything you could think of, head to toe estheticians.
So many people working on our team altogether to find
solutions to what might be bothering you or what you
want to prove in your life.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
So are they zoom calls that you know we can join,
that you put out or how does it work?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
We do? We have different communities, like right now we're
doing Radiate Radiate from within because we have our new
gummy multi vitamin. I call it like the little Funtain
of Wealth, I'm sorry, Fountain of Youth, which is a
fountain of wealth because it's amazing. It's uh all about
(26:31):
your having your cells hydrate and having your skin glow
from within. But it's a whole community where women go
into the chat and you can just sit there and listen,
or you can participate. Sometimes we have fun games and stuff,
but that's just like one chat. Then we do like
planks and shakes, people like every day adding an extra
plank and making having your shake. We have all different
(26:53):
diets like like recipes, carnivore, vegetarian, pescatilian, like whatever kind
of diet you follow. There's different menu plans. It's it's
larger than just a shake and a drink. But we
all just start with a drink. Then all of a
sudden we realize and we dive into the lip bomb next.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yes, I love the lip pluffing bomb. It's awesome. But yeah,
I talked to a lot of people about you know,
as we age and we get into our fifties and
we start having the hot sweats, probably even in your forties,
you know, for for those young younger women just beginning,
(27:32):
and it lasts a long time, these hormony balances. So
we're always looking for things without having to take, you know, medication.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
That's our her core line. It's phenomenal without TMI. I
don't know if anybody's had to peel their their pj's off,
you know, in the middle of the night and get
a fresh pair of p js because they just sweated
so much, yes, sweat. I started there. They have a
system for each stage of your life, from cycle support
(28:05):
to prenatal to perry menopausal menopausal support, and within about
a week or two, I didn't even think about it.
I just started the vitamins because I only share what
I love and if I don't use it, I don't
share it. So it was over four hundred products to share.
But within two weeks I woke up. I'm a my
(28:25):
pajamas were bone dry at all last night, you know
that funny that you know, like, And I was just like, wow,
it really I never I saw all the studies you
know that they did, and I'm like, okay, but you know,
seeing us believe and experiencing it believing and I mean
I try everything obviously before sharing it, and everything has
its ninety day you know, guarantee money back whatever. That's
(28:47):
why I started the Green Drink. But I was just
blown away and everybody I'm hearing about SWAN owners. You know,
raving about the shampoo and I'm like, wow, you know,
like it just makes you field just so you know. Yeah,
it's exciting when I hear people, you know, go back
(29:07):
and tell me how great they're feeling and how much
impacting them. And I really do feel like I'm impacting
people's health more now than it was before because here
it was like here's this drug, this is a side effect,
and you know, this is what we're doing, and here's
you know, and I'm not saying if it wasn't for medicine,
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my son and my husband wouldn't be here, you know
what I mean. There's a place for everything in life,
but I try to do everything as like holistically and
naturally as possible, and that this company has everything we need.
That's wheat free, gluten free, that means soy free, everything's vegan.
I'm not vegan, but all the products are vegan, which
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also just means it's one step higher because things that
are not vegan, even though it's a piece of makeup
you're not consuming, there could be like what we call roadkill,
like and is the companies buy they mailed it down
and that's what they use for the ingredients for like
fats and stuff they relabel a different prettier name.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I don't even know.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I yeah, we won't go there, won't keep up.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But I'm glad it's be And so that's one thing,
one last thing to have to worry about. Oh my gosh,
I think that that's incredible what you're doing. And I mean,
do you have a piece of advice for listeners overwhelmed,
you know, just by caregiving like you do or burning
out maybe one gentle, doable first step toward reclaiming their health.
(30:37):
Is there something you recommend I.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Through trialent error, through my bad experiences, I'll share with
you guys. You know, like when I feel myself like
ready to explode, like oh my gosh, you know, I
go to snap at you know, one of my kids, like,
oh my gosh, that's that's not it. You know, just
take a breath. And one of the things to having
especially is they go through all different kind of things
(31:02):
telling them, teaching them how to, you know, decompress, and
the parents how to decompress. And he'll remember the tools.
But remember, mom, stop and take a breath, you know,
and then and you know, but it's it's true. You
stop and take a breath, Do a stretch, and sometimes
you can't even find that five minutes in a day
for yourself. Just go to the bathroom and take one
extra minute in that bathroom. Don't open the door, and
(31:22):
so you've taken a breath, cleared your mind. Do a stretch.
I like one where you just lean against the wall,
like a push up against the wall, and you just
push and stress and push the stress away, let it
release from your shoulders, shake it, and then walk out
of the room, you know, refreshed. I mean that's a
simple sid if you have time to quick run around
(31:44):
the block or you know, but sometimes you can't always
get away.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You know, they follow sometimes I remember they follow me
into the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I'm like, no, yes, dogs even they bust open the
door and excuse.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Me exactly the dog goes in like waitings and he
comments like the dog okay.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Try to find your time, trying to find that five minutes,
but wherever you can to take that time, because I mean, again,
like they say, when you get an airplane, you know,
you got to the oxygen masking yourself first, or you're
not gonna be any good to anybody else. Yeah, trying
to remember that as well in whatever it is that
helps you feel better, put a smile on your face,
a funny joke. Laughter is the best medicine, you know,
(32:27):
little kids left all the time. Adults, how many times
do you belly laugh? You know that belly laughing is
good for your immune system, It's good for everything. Make
sure you belly laugh every day.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I love that, I doo, I love that yours. You're
just so beautiful, Oh my gosh. And I talk a
little bit about, you know, how you bring that love
of life into your relationship with your husband who's he's suffering,
you know, through the stroke, and it's it's your relationship
is different now than it was even when he had
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the cancer diagnosis. And what does that look like? How
do you we learned to connect while navigating his recovery.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know, it's it's I mean, it's a challenge still.
I mean every day, I mean, every marriage is a challenge,
no matter what's going on. Yeah, but I mean being
it's such a like I said, he never was like
in the house more than eight hours a day ever,
always on the road. Now that he's here all the time,
it's it's hard on him, you know. I mean we've
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always been friends. We've always been great partners. We've always
balanced it, you know, and and we kind of worked that.
I mean, I mean I look back and thinking, like,
like after nine to eleven, a lot of people change,
Like we never ever leave each other without saying I
love you, like even even even before that, like if
we ever, you know, had an argument or something, you know,
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like the whole thing. You never go to bed angry.
We've always you know, I love you. I don't care
if I'm sitting in puddle mud. I'd rather sit in
a puddle mud with you than without your kind of thing,
you know. And no matter what, Yeah, we're always friends
and always you know, have that no matter what that
we leave everything in a positive note.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, that's it. That's just beautiful. And I think you know,
how you communicate, you know, it doesn't always have to
be in words or the way it used to be.
You know, love shines through I think in every act
and every expression and and just you know, everything you
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do for each other, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
And I know his.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Mobility is limited, but I'm sure he's encouraging you every
step of the way.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Before I got on here, go have a blast.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I love him he's so sweet. That's awesome. If you
could sit with a parent who just received a scary
diagnosis for their child, what truth would you whisper to them?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I always have hope, and not everything's always going to
turn out the way you want it to be. Sometimes
it turns out better. Sometimes there's a different silver lining
or different meaning that needs to be learned from it.
But always have hope because what they tell you isn't
always true with certain diagnoses. Like I said, they weren't
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sure if my son would eat, sit up, or walk,
And now he you know, he was a mom gay
pizza for lunch, you know, just right exactly. He loves baskets,
his favorites and he you know, we have them on
you know, it's it's special leagues. But he's on the basketball, baseball.
You know, we did we did the equine therapist and
(35:40):
SE's three years old riding the horses. You know, it's
always just you know, take a step forward, take another
step forward that you know, take another direction. That door closes,
open another door, that closes, open another door, and if
all the doors are closed, build your own door and
like you know, bust out of the room, because that's right.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
That's it. You got to break it down, break through
the wall, whatever it takes. I love that. Is there
any like resources or communities, things that made the biggest
difference for you and your family that maybe people just
don't know exist or know about you. Do you have
any hints like that?
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Oh my god, there are so many. I mean, if anybody,
I mean, they could contact me through my website, whatever,
but contact me just even just about that, not even
you know, any question on special needs, because there is
so I'm still learning, I mean, especially as he's getting
older and different things. Each community, like where I live,
their their early intervention community. They have so many resources.
(36:43):
They will direct you, especially if it's a young child
like pre kindergarten age, they will have a caseworker come
help you find and navigate your community's resources as they
once they get into school, the schools will all have
You need to ask though, whatever your concern is. You
(37:03):
might not know what it is you need, or you
might not know what resources is there. But when you ask,
then you will find out. And even still just last
year when everything was turning it well upside down for
us with my husband and my child, the school psychologists
school to check on us and said, oh we have this,
(37:24):
and I'm like, oh, I didn't even know that was possible.
You know, kind of a thing like you know different
you know, resources in the community that are available. So
just always ask there's somebody. I mean, there's so many
good people in the world, Like you know, people complain
about this or that. There's so much more good than anything,
and it is there. Ask your school, ask your pediatrician.
(37:46):
It's there. And depending what town you're in, there's different
resources and depending what state you're in even more so
different resources. But you got to be vocal, right, you know,
the private communities, there's like for us, there's epilepsy groups,
there's cyberquals groups, there's you know, stroke survivor groups. There's
there's so many different places that yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Go, oh that's so great. I'm gonna switch gears a
little bit and try and lighten things up. And can
you tell me about a song maybe that you play
that gives you your lift or that that always makes
you happier smile?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Well, I drive everybody crazy, but everyon's make it in
the car. I always my kaylav on Christian contemporary rock
music whatever, John Reddick has no fear. I sometimes have
to scream that out at times because it's a it's
a great song and uh and I think he actually
wrote it about or or during the time that his
(38:46):
wife was going through an illness too, So you know,
really I like that song. And there's there's a couple
of different songs King Country. They have a couple of
songs that really get me going and up and.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, it's awesome. We have a little dance party.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Is there a a book maybe that that fills your
cup or a book you'd recommend. I'm sure there's many,
but one that that you can recall.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Well, the first one that really helped me was The
Brain That Heels Itself because that was one of the
first books I read about for my son. But there's
been hundreds of books that have been helpful. Luckily, you know,
we have we living a time that there's a lot
(39:37):
of available out there for us. But I would probably
say that was probably my favorite book. It's amazing what
the blank brain could do, or the plasticity and for
all of us, not just someone, we could all keep
going more and more.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, oh my gosh, I know, I know. What how
about your go to comfort meal pizza. I love pizzas.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Easy and delicious.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
Oh my gosh, all right, here's one. Here's this the
good one for you. What's a five minute self care
habit that you swear by.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Probably to reset my whole mood, Like that spat time
in the shower. Yeah, like like took like washed that
day right out of your hair. It really does it.
You know. I get in there with all my stuff
and I feel like a new woman, you know, within
like thirty minutes. It's like, Wow, I've been reborn.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
I love that. All right. What's one thing that you're
really excited about right now? Right now?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Gosh, I'm so excited about getting my one son ready
for college, getting my other well soon next year, and
you know, but that journey of trying to find out
where we're going, my other son getting ready to go
to high school, my business is booming, getting ready to
go to the next level there, and trying to see
(41:06):
what the next adventure is going to be for our family,
trying to plan it all out all right, and finish
the sentence.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Hope to me is.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Love is like the first word that comes in mind.
I don't know why, but I think with love, anything
as possible. So hope is there.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
I love that I do. I think that's beautiful. And
when you picture your family five years from now, what
do you see that fills you with all of that hope?
Speaker 2 (41:41):
I see my boys will smiling together and having fun
and maybe own an adventure somewhere.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
And if our listeners can remember only one thing from
your journey, what do you want that takeaway to be?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Never give up, Always move forward. Always know tomorrow it's
going to be a better day. No matter where you are,
it's always a better day tomorrow. Even if tomorrow's the
worst day, it's going to get better the next day.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Do you get through the worst days? Don't you? You know?
Sometimes you don't think in the moment that you're going to,
but by putting that one foot in front of the other,
you do.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
You get through it and you get to the next day,
and just surprise yourself.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
You do all the time. I surprise myself by doing that.
And very importantly, Christine, very slowly, I want you to
tell our listeners how they can reach out to you
to support you and learn more about Arbond, but also
learn about your journey and all the wonderful tidbits that
(42:43):
you have for information, So okay, go for it.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
So you can contact me at Christine need Heart. So
that's my name hrst I n e I d hr
T and so it's Christine Needthart dot arbond dot com.
Is rbron A r B O N n E. So
Christine Neeedheart dot arbon dot com. And you just click
(43:07):
contact me and I'll be happy to get back to
you about anything you want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Ah, that sounds awesome, Christine. And I know that Christine
believes so deeply in supporting women's health that she will
have a discount if you do order through her, But
send her a contact and she'll tell you about the discount.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
And I end each interview with one of my sons,
Scott's poems.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
And I picked this poem because it's about trying to
be free but feeling confined, and you can hear it
in his words. It's I just thought it related a
little bit to the situation that both your husband and
your son, you know, feel at times, and and actually,
frankly all of us feel at times. So bear with
(43:57):
me here as I read it to you. To the
beautiful town.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
Of mine that falls to its own demise, Yes, there are.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Substitutes for happiness, caffeine, marijuana, nicotine. But I still don't
believe the fight I make to survive in a town
where I don't subside into some random compromise where everything
and everyone is okay because they're not. People are faking it,
(44:27):
parents are making it. All you gotta do is match everyone,
or else you will be forsaken it. You got to
dress like them, you got to talk like them, you
got to walk like them, because that's the only way
to survive in a town where everything is afraid of everyone. Now,
if you try to defy these rules that have been
(44:49):
locked up tight, and you try to spread your wings,
you try to fly, you'll be shot down by everyone
you know and love. Because if you see like I see,
then you will see right through the lies that are
hidden behind this beautiful town of mine, and you will see.
You can't spread your wings and you cannot fly. But
(45:14):
if your color isn't the same as line paper, and
the Holy Lord Jesus Christ ain't by your side, you
will be rejected, neglected, and never respected. There is too
much restraint holding me back to be the best person
I can be and strive to be. Too many people
(45:34):
say I'm wrong when I know I'm right. I'm tired
of being like everyone else when I know I can
be better. It's time to get my hands wetter, perform better,
and fight back because if I try hard enough, everyone
will be a forgetter. They will forget those times when
I messed up, fest up and I didn't dress up
(45:58):
because they don't want to match everyone else. But I
have to. It's not a choice anymore. It's indeed, I
can't catch that speed that I need to succeed if
I left this town. Drag me down fifteen years old,
(46:19):
he had a lot to say. You know, it's one
of those poems that I'm like, wow, you know, I
try and take it all in, but you can see that,
you know, just feeling constrained, just not being able to
be who you are because you're constrained and whatever way
into your body and by limited by the town that
(46:41):
you live in, or you know, just what fate has
in store for you. It's just really really interesting.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
And I want to tell our SOS community.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
That Christine and story hope and inspires you and that
you take advantage of her generous offers and know that
she is resilience like the definition of it. She is
such a beautiful soul in person and I feel so
blessed to have had you on my show and I
(47:19):
can't thank you enough. And please join us next week
on SOS Stories of Survivors, where survival sparks the soul.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Thank you so much, Thank you three
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