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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Everybody, and welcome to this week's Soul Space with Georgia Rose.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I am so excited to bring you this show.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I have one of my very very good friends and
an amazing astrologer, Delia Dashwood, known as d Light. You
can find her online on her YouTube channel on Dlight
meets Joe Black, which is an amazing platform that we're
going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
So welcome to the show. D How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I'm good. Thank you so much for having me here, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
You and I are completely halfworld, like eight thousand miles apart.
D's from South Africa and I'm in the States, but
we have developed a very close friendship. So power of
the Internet, right.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh yeah, it's a very special space that we share.
And I think that's largely because we have such similar
natal birth charts and astrology. We're lack two twins, estro
twins is what we like ourselves.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We do astro twins, and you've been so instrumental for
me in pointing out a lot of those similarities. Delia
and I actually met online from an astrology group that
we were part of, and we actually formed a little
spin off group on that that she's been forming for
us and just.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Really great stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So do tell me a little bit about And I
always ask this question of people that are on the
show or you know, are doing whether it's astrology or whatever.
What was the caveat that pivotal moment in your life
when you were like, I'm gonna look into and seek
something that isn't the norm. You're going to like stand
out from the crowd a little bit and look for something.
(01:58):
I know you were very young when you first started
to get into in astrology.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yes, I think I was about sixteen years old and
there was just interest in astrology. And fortunately enough, when
I mentioned it to my family, my mom went to
the trouble of taking me to the Astrological Society of
South Africa. And there I walked in as this little
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sixteen year old and in a group of women probably
our sort of age, and they took one look at
my astrology chart and they just said to me, you know,
we really think that you need to go and do
a little bit of life living. And it's actually one
of the reasons that I started my YouTube channel because
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I think that was the wrong choice their advice. I
don't think that was the right thing to have done
because you get certain different energies in a life in
a natal chart. Yeah, in your astrological chart, it speaks
of certain energies. And in my particular case, the chart
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came through with quite a lot of challenges that needed
guidance and I was drawn to them, but I was
turned away because I was too young. So my YouTube
channel is to try and get to those younger people
so that they can make use of this beautiful gift
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that we use as astrologers and support them.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, because I know if you had been able to
work with your chart when you were young, it would
give you so much guidance.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Do you feel oftentimes this happens? I know when I
do an astrology reading, someone who feels something is a
challenge or a fault, it's almost as though they feel
there's something wrong with them, and then through the chart
they can kind of free themselves from that and realize, no,
this has just been given to you for a reason.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Absolutelyoute, I couldn't agree with you more. The strategy is
really so comforting, it's so assuring. But you asked about
a moment a time where just Lafe felt different.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Because I was sixteen year old to you know, pursue astrology.
That's not you know, like, how did you even know
it existed?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You know, exactly exactly, I don't even know. It was
more a feeling. And that's the crazy thing, because I
was actually raised in a Christian home and it was
actually through you were talking once about having a definite
experience of the Holy Spirit. And I went to go
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and help somebody with their hair because I'm a wig maker,
and she said to me, you know, do you mind
if I pray over you? And she started praying, and
I just this elevated feeling came over me, this absolute
lightness and joy and bliss. Yeah. And when I left her,
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I can hardly remember the drive home. It was just
such a beautiful experience. And when I got home, I
was living with my h to be husband at the time,
and I said to him, today everything changes. I don't
know exactly what happened, but I will never be the same.
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And I think that that connection to spirit, right to source.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
You were touched by source.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah, it was just the beginning of my drive. You know,
I just thought, that's it. I'm going to under spend
the rest of my life.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Finding it so amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It's so beautiful to hear stories like that, because I
always feel, how could people not believe in something that
there isn't a higher power, There isn't something greater than us.
You know, when you feel that, you just know denying it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And you know the synchronous cities in life. You and
I have mentioned this before, how the different things coincid
and you know there definitely are happening for.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
All for our good yea, even the challenges, you know,
our challenges, Like you know, astrology really is one of
the caveats that teaches us things happen for us, not
to us. You know, there's a reason the soul chooses
to have those experiences, and through the evolutionary astrology especially,
it really explains that you can see what the pathway
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is to the resolution. You know absolutely, so you have
this experience through you know, you were going to do
someone's hair. Do you find that when you do your
I always fell like our earth bound life, our job
with you know, whatever we do for a living. When
you do have clients, I know you're a hairdresser by
trade and a wig maker. Do you think that opens
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you also to more you know of the psychic ability
and intuitive process because you're laying hands on people.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I think that it was a tool that came to
me because there was this need to exercise the connection
to spirit. So I remember as a young girl sitting
underneath an avocado tree out in the South African landscape,
and I remember just praying and just asking for guidance
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as to how I was going to be able to
use this gift that I could feel. And I just
heard that I must just wait and I will be
called when I'm called, and I must just continue doing
what I love to do. And I loved to do here.
So that was how it started.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And I have shared the right path.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, I have shared with you that you know often
make a joke and I wonder if psychologists would benefit
from doing hairdressing as well, because you just provide you
don't hurt a mirror, and you know the reflection and
somebody standing behind you with their hands on your shoulders
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and just holding space for you, and you know that
that hairdresser has got a full attention on your needs
and where there there's a thin space where that becomes
a very deep spiritual connection.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, it's so personal too.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
I think that you're right, just that the actual doing
of that and you're you're making eye contact and someone's
touching you. It's a very very personal field that you're in.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And I think especially if you can have the opportunities
to have had your hair washed, so the whole connection
with water, that does help take you to that space.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
So I have a question for you, because you know,
I'm sure people watching this also watch other channels and
are into a lot of the spiritual things that are
out there and learning about more about spiritual energy. We
hear a lot now in the world about the veil,
as we like to call it, between worlds. You know,
our intuition, our psychic ability, our ability to really understand
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and feel things getting thinner.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Right now, you know, even light.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I know we've taught you and I've talked about the
fact that light seems different, But do you, like, how
are you experiencing that? Do you feel like your energy
is becoming more heightened than it has been in the past,
Like they say, the veil is getting thinner.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think, in my opinion, I would definitely agree with that,
and I think it plays out in the fact that
the synchronicities are coming through thick and strong. People are
trusting their intuition. They're not relying on let's say, reaching
out to a therapist or a frame. They're really trusting
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themselve else, and so I think there's definitely a connection there.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Also, I think, do you think maybe, like also the Internet,
because things are so instantaneous, I think that we're becoming
more salient and more feeling of things.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Because we see it all.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
You know, before things would happen thousands of miles away
and we didn't know, and vice versa, and now it's
like we're all sharing so much emotion.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Mm hmmm, I agree with it. I think the Internet
has always a double aged sword. It's just this beautiful
wealth of information, and then there's this overload, you know,
and this overwhelmed that comes with it as well. But
I think that as we psychically evolve and mature, we're
able to use these tools with more insight, and we
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know when we're becoming overwhelmed, and then we can switch
off and detached and debrief a little bit. Now, as
far as an astrology goes, I would definitely you say
that there's some beautiful synchronicity is happening. I feel that
the flow and the spirit realm are really working with us.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, I think the planets are in more powerful positions
than they've ever been before in humankind. I think that
there's really such an awakening happening across the globe.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
What with Pluto and Neptune, some of them changing signs
for the first time in like two hundred and sixty
two hundred and seventy years.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Yeah, and I think it's important for people to realize
they don't have to be an astrologer, but at least
try and just know you're some attributes in your own chart,
like maybe you know some of the more prominent aspects,
like understand your sun's sign and understand your moon and
how those flavors are going to be, even if it's
just for the idea of going to an astrologer, so
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that when you do work with someone with your chart.
I know, for me, I always think of chart work
as something not a one time thing that you're going
to go do. I feel like the astrologer should almost
be like your doctor and you're going for checkups. So
if someone out there was thinking about, you know, bringing
a professional astrologer into their life in order to work
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with them as a guidance, what would you suggest is
the best way to do that as far as how
often or what they would really look for.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hm, well, it actually takes me to my YouTube channel,
because that's the whole point of it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I was hoping that, Yeah, the whole.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Point of that is that, you know, just like you're saying,
I think sometimes the community feel that there's such a
big gap between you know, like understanding what's really going on,
and then they feel like do they really want to
invest all that time to learn? And so I'm hoping
through this YouTube channel, Georgia, that people can see an
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example of how my life is echoed in the chart.
So it's not to teach strology necessarily, it's just to
show that there is the evidence, right, you can actually
slut your story into that and then have like an
astrobiography of your own story that you can leave for
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your family members in the year.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
And also for you to go deeper into your own elevation,
you know, really understanding your higher self and the soul's
journey in your own world, you know. So talk a
little bit more about the YouTube channel. It's called Dlight
meets Joe Black, and it's such a brilliant original idea because,
like you say, you're you're giving kind of like an
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autobiographical understanding of the chart, but you're doing it through
the platform of Joe Black, and so it's really interesting
and fun to watch. But it's also I think it
is kind of educational in a way because while it's
not actually like a teaching course, it really does give
us a few for how the planets kind of work
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in someone's life.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Absolutely, that is exactly it. So one would then take
certain points and as astrologers, that's what we would look for,
and then we plot that into the map of what
the planets were doing at the time, and there is
the evidence, there is the stage setting that was created
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for us. And then depending on what frequency you're going
to perform at with your show that you're going to
put on, your light show, your choice. You know, that's
where free will comes in, because sometimes I think a
lot of people are fearful that the planets are doing
something to them or have made it happen that way,
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and it's not like that. It's just the it's just
the stage setting. And I think that's a nice analogy.
Like if you're an person you're going to show up
or actor and you're going to show up to a
stage and everything, all the props are at but on
the one particular night, the props are you know, daggers
and dark, lots of smoke, and then the next night
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there's flowers and the whole trip. It gives you a
different a different feeling for your professor.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Is a great analogy. I kind of sometimes I think
of it like landscape. The planets are our landscape. You know,
is it is it rocky?
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Is it smooth? Or we're in a meadow? You know,
how are we going to deal with this landscape?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
So I love that analogy of the stage set, and
I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I think you know, especially you and I.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Practice evolutionary astrology, and it's all about the soul's path.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That's what it's come to do.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Yeah, person, I think sometimes people come to an astrologer
and they you don't want an answer to something. But
our job isn't really to answer something for you, is
to show you what something is. It's like we're not
there to eat the ice cream cone for you. We're
there to tell you what flavor it is, and then
you have to taste it for yourself and decide it.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Which if that's the flavor you like or not.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You know, I'm going to go in a different direction.
So how did you ever come up with the idea
of the meat Joe Black theme?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's so original?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh thanks, Georgia. You know, both of us are very
psychic and intuitive, and we have a very strong connection
to spirit and and just trusting in God's intervention and guidance.
So I've always received a lot of mine through dream time.
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In my natal chart, I have certain placements that speak
into that, and there's a lot of repeating themes around
the downloads that I received through dream.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Time, Fortune, NEPTWNE.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
House and so on. But like, for example, yours, you're
you're You've been able to pull it through and receive
through your reiki and through your all the different modalities
that you've worked through and your terror card reading that
I just love when I watch the Strong Island podcast.
(17:15):
But yeah, so so so those are those are things
that But what I did want to just quickly share
with you, Georgia is, oh, that's right, we were talking
about the met you Black. So yeah, that came to
me through a dream I work up and I just
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I was told that I should do this, and there's
many times around I think to myself, I'm not sure
about it, and you know, I don't know, but I
don't want to question, and I'm just going with it
because I trust it and for now, it's fun and
I think it is going to offer something different where
people can leave behind their story. And you know, until now,
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you had to have money to be able to write
a book, and often people would say, well, like, you know,
we don't really care about your story. But today we've
we've really evolved and we now know how important each
and every one of us are.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
And yeah, the human story.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, and I think it's lovely to be able to
have that, even if it's just for yourself.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, but an autobiographical thing.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Yeah, the main thing is for the youngsters. I want
to be able to reach out to them and for
them to know, like you were one speaking about when
you were a younger person and this just wasn't the support. No,
Today you can work with different astrologers and you can
actually have the help, right.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I think I think Pluto and Aquarius is going to
help us with that as well, because I think Pluto
and Aquarius is really bring to the surface things that
maybe have been hidden but bring them into the surface
to embrace that we're all so unique, and I think
that a lot of the stigmas we have for certain
things are going to eventually dissolve in this, you know,
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resolution of Pluto and Aquarius. Of course, it will probably
take twenty years, but that's okay as long as it happens.
But I think that perfect timing for your your YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Well thanks for that, Georgia years. I'm enjoying it. It's
It's obviously takes time because I have very much a
three D job that also has to have every day
enjoy that aspect of the astrology.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
I oftentimes feel when I see the videos, I feel
like Joe Black is the first character and that this
can actually take on into other characters, like maybe even
someone else's chart they meet a different character, and you
know what I'm saying, It's like, it's like Joe Blacks
might be Pluto, but somebody.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
You know, I don't know it, Just like I just there's.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
An unlimited amount of really brilliant work that you can
do with this concept.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Well, what came to me, funnily enough, afterwards after I
received the download was to even consider characters like Nanny McFee.
This is a children's movie, and the character plays out
similar to Mary Poppins. Yeah, there's this very stern, strict
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boundaries and then this saturn. That's exactly it. And they
would relate so nicely so that when young people are
feeling into their charts, because the salience of a chart
is really a beautiful way to learn to get out
your head and into your heart, they are feeling the
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character feeling the chart.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Oh absolutely, it's so funny because like the interaction we
just had, it's we cannot describe to If anyone out
there does evolutionary strology or astrology for that matter, you start,
especially with evolutionary a strology that you start to actually,
like you say, live it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
It's a lifestyle.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And so then you start to see everything in relation
and correlation to the archtypes of the planets and certain things.
So now it's like you have a conversation with someone,
or you have a little bit of a dust up
a conflict, or you have a really great thing, and
it's always like, oh, that was very you know, Neptunian
in pisces, or like we have our own language after
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a while, you know, or somebody will say, why did
that happen?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
It will be like, well, it's Saturday in areas, you know,
we're like a little cult or something. I don't know, buddy.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Going back to the Pluto. So in evolutionary astrology, we
work with Pluto as the soul's desire, and Pluto also
does carry a certain a certain push to it where
it's crunch time. It's like, you know, the end of
the line, and it carries this metamorphosis where you're going
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to change from one into the other. There's going to
be a massive shift. And in the Meet Joe Black,
Bradford plays this character where everybody in that movie interacts
with him and there is a shift. They've they've reached
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the end of the line, and then that character will
metamorphosize and no longer none of those characters are the
same at the end of the movie. And I think
that's the beauty of the Meet Jo Black analogy with Pluto.
And it just so happens to resonate Stross so strongly
in my chart, because when you look at somebody's natal chart,
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this is a snapshot of where the planets are at
the time of the person's birth. I happen to have
Pluto in a very very strong position in my chart,
and then just the way it worked art Pluto trail
across every single planets in my chart, which is very unusual.
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Most people will have certain aspects to Pluto new transets,
but the intensity of my chart having lived with this
Joe Black character right the way through my entire life,
as we all.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Been sleeping in your bed, baby Lowe.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Each other, intimately you and mister Pluto, Joe Black.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
And so because of that, I just felt that there
was a depth to Pluto that I would like to
share through a life story. And obviously my life story
is the one I know beast, so I'm telling that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, Well, you and I have talked often about, you know,
or recently about intention and how when we create with
certain intention, it just becomes such a great creative project.
And this is definitely something that you brought such beautiful
intention to. I know that your intention was really to
you know, guide people and and really open people up
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to astrology in a way that most people would not
be And I want to thank you for I think
the work you're doing is just absolutely needed and very
essential for all of us.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Thank you Georgia, and to you too.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Talk a little bit about what you see the trajectory
for with your own astrology work and just in general,
like on the planet, because I'm seeing astrology become more
and more mainstream, like especially young people are really talking
about astrology a lot. You think the trajectory is, do
you think that you know, humanity will kind of adopt
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that as a way or.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I think that there's going to always be a split.
It would be almost naive to think that we would
that the collective would move, you know, so much in
that direction. But I feel that the that the that
the positive love aspect and the enlightenedness of the soul
has raw with it just by being an example. So
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even if not even if everybody doesn't quite you know,
catch up, those of us that are ready doing our
work and being our authentic selves have the chance to
be able to bring others along.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
On the journey being elevated as a species very much so.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
And that's imported in their astrology and the gene keys,
human design and all these different tools. Lots of evidence
that we are making a cellular change, you know, of
the human being is upgrading, And it's as you said, earlier.
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It will take years. It might take many many years,
but the but then it might also you might see
the effects so quickly because we have a lot of
a at the moment in.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Right and fire. We're gett into fire too.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
In fire, so it's very quick, very reactive, and people
see the difference. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
The thing that's really interesting but also beautiful to watch,
and I'd love to know if you're observing this is
people are changing. We're now more future oriented. Whereas the
Pluto and Capricorn years we were all about the past.
Everything was all regurgitation, digesting. And now you've got Pluto
in an air sign in Aquarius, all uniqueness, our individuation,
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and everyone's forward, more forward.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And the one thing about.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
It, though, that I think is so beautiful but also bittersweet,
is I see and I'm observing people realizing that back
doesn't exist anymore. Like we don't have a choice to
go backwards. We can't like be nostalgic about what was
because it's just not there, and we don't even really
feel that we are in sync with it anymore. It's
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like things just changed and we're changed, and now it's like, okay,
we got to look forward because that doesn't appeal to
me anymore. And I'm seeing that with people with their professions,
with relationships, with their living situations, with even their you know,
perceptions and religious beliefs.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
It's like the.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
World just starting to change very rapidly. Are you observing
or feeling that at all?
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It's just me well both both, and I think you know, also,
when you are working with clients, you see how very
quickly they're able to pick up and resonate with the
information that's in and you can actually see them changing
and applying it. So people are really hungry, you know,
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we just what you said, you know, Al it's like
the future is sparky. People get out there and dance
in the sparkles, you know, they don't want to the cave.
And while yeah, and I think that that is a big,
big aspect of all of our shift, is to move
away from that victim consciousness because yeah, absolutely that we
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have all heard our sad story. And that's part of
the reason that I'm actually creating the video the YouTube
channels that the sad story can hold its place. We
don't we don't forget it, and it's created in a
safe place where we understand it and we can see it,
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and we can leave that for our for our family
in the future, but that we then can go out
and dance in those sparkles.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, and I think that's what we're seeing in the world. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
And it's funny that you were just mentioning about when
we work with clients and we see the transition. I've
seen the transition just from being in some of our
study groups with evolutionary astrology, and you watch people in
the groups as they're doing the work through the evolutionary
astrology process and the courses that we take, and you
see their energy change, you know, with the insights and
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the revelations and even myself, you know, and it's just
a really amazing thing to watch. That's just like, it's
so interesting to me because I just love watching people
change their energy, you know, and those transformations that take place.
I guess that's the scorpio stuff in us, right, And
that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
We're here to help each other, you know, So we're
we're lighthouses to whoever would like to see us as that.
You know. Absolutely, it's really been it's been a great
pleasure to be part of this awakening and I feel
so privileged to be to have been around it this
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time in history.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Yes, for those for those people who are interested in
the astrology, if you just keep listening to Georgia's podcast,
you're going to see on your YouTube channel too. Yeah,
well thanks, but you know you're going to see and
hear just how many, many many changes are coming our way,
all for the good.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
And you know, it's funny about saying like that we're
living in a certain time because even with meeting you
and being able to partake of certain groups and certain
study programs and things. You know, twenty years ago, I
wouldn't been able to do that, you know, or thirty
years ago, I wouldn't be able to do that. So
just having the technology that we have, you know, and
now AI, which is a whole other story.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
We'll do a whole show on that.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But I you know, when you really look at our
souls were meant to be in this space for a reason.
And I'm just so grateful that I've met you and
that we have our friendship and just able to study
together and do all kinds of things.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
So that's why it's like bris, we've certainly learned a
lot from each other because we have this soul sister
connection in h O.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And the one thing I have to say, and I'm
just going to put this out there for intention and
for everybody watching, I'm going to send you all the
intention that you, at some point in your life are
able to engage in a connection that is completely judgment free,
because that's what just naturally occurs between Delia and I
and I'm not sure I've ever had that before in
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my life, so.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's very special.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
That's that's the gift of the astrology and the gene
keys is then just so pure. There's there's no room
to hide. So you just have to show up vulnerable
and and try.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
To be really brave.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Be brave, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It takes a lot of valor to do your soul work.
So d where can we find you?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So my YouTube channel is called meet d Light and
Joe Black and at the welcome to reach out to me.
I'll work with you in anywhere I can, whether you
enjoy the idea of the astrobiography or otherwise. Just to
look at your chart and just hold some space for you,
especially if you are a young person and you are
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starting out. It's nice to be able to have people
like Georgia and myself and others that we'll be able
to just hold that space so that you're not you know,
you're not lost at sea.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Absolutely, So thank you so much for being on this
week's Soul Space. Everybody, get on YouTube, subscribe to Delia's
channel because she's gonna have a lot more coming that
you're going to want to take advantage of.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Hell, everybody, I'd like to welcome you today to a
very special friend of mine as well as a brilliant
talented astrologer, as well as many other different things, and
we're going to chat about those today. We're going to
have some fun here. Georgia, so welcome, welcome, Thank you
so much for being here today.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yes, So, Georgia, you go by a few different names.
I know you as Georgia Rose, which is your like
your professional name in the industry, and I know that
you have spent many many years in the real estate industry,
and there as Georgia Waistcoat.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yes, Actually an interesting story that I use the name
Georgia Rose in my spiritual life because I tell us, well,
it's a it's a dual story. But first of all,
my grandmother's name is Rose, and so I always felt
an affinity. When I started to go into the spiritual
world and started to get messaging and channeling, my grandmother
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would often come through, so her name was always very
prominent for me. But one time I had gone to
one of my mentors and they gave me a reiki
session and it was the first time I ever had reiki,
and all of these things happened during that session. I
was getting channeling, The blessed mother had come in. All
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these spiritual things were happening the reiki session, and that
mentor happened to write a column for the local paper
that was a spiritual column, and she wanted to write
about the experience that we had, but she didn't want
to use my real name. So in the column she
started to call me Georgia Rose, and so it just stuck.
And then everyone in that sphere of influence, and you know,
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she had a storefront and she did a lot of
spiritual practice, everyone just started referring to me as Georgia Rose,
and it was it was kind of synchronistic because she
didn't know that my grandmother's name was that, and so
it just kind of stuck. So in the spiritual realm,
I'm known as Georgia Rose. And it was actually a
good thing for me in the beginning because it separated
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my career in the Earth dimension, you know, which I
always called my earthbound life, from my three you know,
five dimensional life.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
It wasn't so earthbound.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
Well, we get into the conversation. I'd love to just
give a little brief overview, because you know you do,
and you have spent an entire lifetime building your spiritual
life as well as your three D life. And I
know you and I've met you through the evolutionary astrology,
and I must say, Georgia, you are an incredible astrologer.
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I am a huge fan of yours. Georgia has a podcast,
I Thank You, a podcast every Monday at seven on
the Strong Island TV, and it's one of my favorites.
I love listening, even though in South Africa the time
is quite late, so I have to catch up on
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the recording. But that's a platform where you bring in
your terror cards as well, and that's an aspect of
that show that I really enjoy. I don't know if
you share with us a little bit about your terror
starting and then we'll go into the other aspects of
what you've been up to.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
So Tara was an important thing for me when I
first started to step into the occult and spiritual life.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I went through.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I often think of it as like a buffet table
and I just was eating from each plate.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
You know, over a period of years.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And taro was something I think, because it also is
associated with astrology, was something that I did for many
years and really was just a tarot reader and that's
how spirit would come through for me. And then that
developed more into the astrological. But in twenty nineteen, right
before COVID, I was in the process of doing a
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deck of oracle cards. I always wanted to make my
own cards, and unlike the taro as a predictive tool,
I wanted to do a set of cards that just
would bring energy into people who maybe were in a
little bit of challenge. So I wrote I made a
deck called Circle of Light.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
And I'm just showing them.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, you can get on my website because.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
They're a special deck of cards and I use them
all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And they're just beautiful card of But I'm a good writer.
So the booklet that's with them is very nice, but I.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Wat it because yes, with a they resonate so beautifully.
With each of the times that I've pulled them, I
think we'll pull Yeah. So the circle of Light was born.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
But I have to say when it was very important
for me when I was.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Writing the deck and creating the deck to infuse it
with the energy of what I was feeling, which was
all about light.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
For some reason.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
In twenty nineteen, I had even done this little social
media campaign and declared it the Year of Light, and
I asked people to send in photos of sunsets and
sunrises and just light and how light was in.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Their part of the world.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
If we can just return to light, I think it
really changes our mud mood.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
It's kind of like music, right.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
So the cards are designed to bring light to your
day and to really do healing through light and encourage
everyone how they're using light in their life to illuminate
things and be able to see what needs to be revealed.
And I have to say that there has been you know,
the people who do purchase deck or that I have
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gifted the deck to, they all come back and tell
me the energy and the deck is amazing. And I
think that just gets back to intention and when you
have an intention for something and you really put it in.
And that was a lesson for me in creating the deck.
It was really a gift to me first time I
can remember as an adult holding something in my hands
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that I actually made and created with an energy that
was so pure, you know, and I know you do
beautiful work with your profession, and we work with a
lot of people with wigs and hair and so you
create things that become tangible all the time, but I
don't work in that kind of an environment. So it
was such a beautiful healing experience for me to have
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that moment of birthing something.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That was in my hands.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And I remember just being o and overwhelmed with feelings
when the deck was actually in my hands and I
had done it and it was done, and it was
just such a beautiful feeling. So thank you for indulging
me and talking about it, because I.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Feel that through the cards, and I know that you've
done quite a lot of angel work through the Is
it the integrated energy therapy? Yes, I And I wonder
I wonder if you know some of that energy came
through into these cards. Do you want to tell us
a little bit about that, because did you become a
master of that? Did you?
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yes, So, integrated energy therapy is very similar to reki
healing or just any energetic healing, but it is specifically
with angels, and we call in certain angels to have
certain archetypes for healing work. And you can actually when
you're doing i ET integrated energy therapy, you can actually
feel like if someone has a heaviness or a blockage
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in their body, similar to a reiki practitioner, but like
you can actually like you know, kind of.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Pull the energy out.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
And each angel has their own sort of arc type
and healing modality that you bring in. And I think
that for you know, we all have our own essence
when we touch into spirit and our soul space. You know,
some people are into fairies and elementals, other people are
into alien and off planet energy. For me, angels just
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resonated and always seem to be around me. And so
that was just the avenue when I first started to
really delve into the spiritual world. I felt really safety
and love from angels. So it helped me on my journey.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
And you came from a Catholic childhood and upbringing is
that correct, Like I was raised through a Christian upbringing
and that definitely does influence how you you know, work
and you know, abstop spiritual journey.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Yeah, I think you're right, Dan.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
I think that it's really it plays into whatever our
essence is. So I think I think spirit speaks to
us however our essence is. And I do a lot
of writing. I do a lot of journaling and a
lot of automatic writing. I'm just I think I was
born with a pen in my hand, and so spirit
speaks to me through that, you know.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
So it's just just.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Like I know sometimes you say with your profession, like
when you are doing hair work for people and your hairdressing,
that you felt psychic through that because you were touching
the heads, you know.
Speaker 3 (41:21):
Yes, yes, I think I think that's one of the
things that I always picked up about you, is your
incredible psychic, intuitive, just natural ability that just flows into
all the different modalities. I know that you became a
reiki master, but I would imagine that this shamanic practice.
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Is it the manay key.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
The rights of Moody. Yeah, yeah, So tell us.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
A little bit about that, because that feels very very
spiritual and very much that it's connected to the rey
key and integrateed healing therapy.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
It's very deep that comes from you know, South American
indigenous people, the Quetos. It is a belief system and
a prophecy kind of I shouldn't say prophecy. It's kind
of an energetic system where you receive rights through a
shaman who has been gifted in that energy. And it's
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nothing that's written down. It's been handed down for for
generations and hundreds of years through that those indigenous people.
So it's really just like certain shamans have this the
Mouni key and they can you know, make you part
of that lineage.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And so there's all kinds.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
They're called the Healer's Rights and you can look yeah,
and I think they've added to other ones in the
last few years, but you can look it up online
and they Alberto Vilvaldo is the person who has put
all this together in the web and things, and he's
written books and it's very similar to like the Four
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Agreements and things like that. It's called the Four Winds Society,
and so they have certain shamans that will attune you
into the rights of munichi and it takes a little
bit of time, because each right has to settle in.
But the rights are like the healer's rights, but they're
also making you a custodian of the of the universe
and respecting gaya. There are seers rights as ee er,
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so that you have a way, you know, through the
shamanic world of delving deep into the things that are unseen,
you know, ancestry. A lot of times shamans will refer
to my shaman al Oftentimes he'll say my grandfather told me,
or I heard from grandfather today, and they're they're talking
about the ancestral lineage of their shamanism, and so munichi
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is very deep.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
I remember when.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
And I got those rights about the first time about
twelve years ago, and then I renewed the rights about
nine year years ago. Yeah, it's very, very profound. It's
just simply something that is embodied within you. It's not
something that you know, you do as a healing right
on anyone else or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
It's just an energy that becomes cellular exactly a cellular level.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
It's hard to find for me to find my words
describing monarchy because it's not of this.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
World now I understand, but it's such a lovely depth
that you've taken your spiritual study. You know that you've
actually gone in all these different realms, And tell me
a little bit about your your experience of being a
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evolutionary astrologer, because that's that's the that's met and you know,
how how how are you? How are you enjoying that?
I know that you use it a lot in your practice.
I mean, all these different things.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
But it's so interesting, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
I think like it's just given us all so much
of a depth. Everyone that's been in our little group. Yeah,
I have to say that I don't. I can't take
credit other than being brave.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
For my journey.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
I always feel that I've been led and I'm sure
you feel the same way that when the bell rings,
you have to answer it.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You know, when you have a certain level of spirituality,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
There's no way you're not. You're not like saying I'm
staying home in bed today. You know, you've got to
just do the world God's work and the world's work.
But evolutionary astrology, I have to say, is a lynchpin.
It just kind of you know, you have all these
like spokes in a wheel and evolutionary astrology is the
center of the wheel every other modality in some way,
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like even you know, I practice yoga, I say when
people ask me what I am, I say more than anything,
I'm probably a Buddhist, but not too too deep in that.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
But everything comes back to the evolutionary strology.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
For me, the astrology, even when I was doing tarot
work and I doing a lot of readings, which I
still do, I would always ask people for their birth
date just because the gate looking at a chart, even
if I didn't know what I was looking at, became
a gateway for me.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
For the soul energy for that person.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
So I feel like I've actually been led to every modality.
And when I found the evolutionary astrology, what it did was,
you know, we're on this path and I've been journeying
through different parts of my life, and you know, I
don't want to seem like I'm a jack of all trades.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
I'm certainly not.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
I think every when you're seeking, and you're a seeker,
you'll taste everything and then something will resonate in something
you'll put back, you know, and then that becomes the
sum of you. And so for me, I had a
lot of parts, and when I started to study evolutionary astrology,
it kind of sewed the parts together for me in
a very elevated way because the EA, the evolutionary astrology,
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was something that was medicine for me, and prior to that,
all the modalities that I was seeking and searching, we're
more medicine for the other.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
And how can I, you know, be a change in
the world. And I want to be able to do
this and will.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Whenever you go through a two minutes, you always have
a deep healing. At the same time, it wasn't specifically
something I did to invest in myself to elevate or
to go through some kind of a transformation to elevate
myself to a different level of spirituality. You know, they
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all are kind of but this, the evolutionary strategy, is
something that Okay, I'm going to immerse myself in this
for like years in order to come out and really
understand certain aspects of my own essence in my own person.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
And I think the other things that we study.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Are really tools, but the evolutionary astrology is not only
a tool, it's really a medicine.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
And it's a complete lifesile.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Once once, once you actually understand the impacts and the
ruance that the planets have, not that they're creating our life,
but they're definitely creating a stage so that we can
do the performance of a lifetime hopefully.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Absolutely absolutely, And I think you start to see things
through that lens of the planets and the spheres and
the attributes, because it takes a really.
Speaker 3 (48:20):
Long time, right, I think it's a lifelong study. And
that's all. But I'd like to just go a little
bit back now into your intuitive insights and maybe share
with us a little bit about your childhood, maybe when
with those little moments where you noticed that there was
something different that you had as a gift, and then
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obviously you went to the buffet and you started trying
to find the tools that would open up this psychic
gift even further. And I mean, I would say that
you are really at the moment, at the most mature
pivotal point. You are just blossoming in every area. And
it's see it as I mean, I've always said to you,
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you are like a lath house for a lot of us.
So share with us about that early early journey into
your sac abilities.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Well, one of the things that I want to say
for anyone watching is if you feel that you have
a knowingness, or you feel you have a very heightened intuition,
or you're having prophetic dreams, or or things are happening
that are unexplained in your life, don't label them negative.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Because you know, I grew up not.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Not last week, you know, it was quite a time ago,
and so when I would have feelings or think things,
it was labeled anxiety or in a negative way, especially
growing up in a very devout Catholic home, so you know,
there would even be like I remember when I was
a little girl, I would be afraid to go upstairs
in the house sometimes because I would just feel weird energy,
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and so that was labeled it, Oh, she's afraid to
go upstairs, she has anxiety, something wrong.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
With the kid, you know, what's wrong with you? You know?
And some would yell at you.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
And I remember coming home from parties or things like that,
and I would like not feel good, or I would
have like a sensation in my stomach, you know, and
it was automatically labeled anxiety. Oh, this kid's really nervous,
or something's wrong with this kid, you know. And also
the positive things I remember receiving my confirmation, which you
do in the Catholic Church when you're around like twelve,
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and coming home and saying to my mom, Mom, I
think I felt the Holy Spirit today, and her getting angry,
like acting like I was blasphemous or I was like,
you know, being too full of myself, and I kid
you not. I definitely felt the Holy Spirit in that
church that day. Yeah, I absolutely was like, oh, and
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you know, I'm twelve years old.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I don't know what that is. So I think that
some people.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
Whether it's your astrological chart or something else in your DNA,
I think there are those of us who are born
with a very heightened energetic sense, your spidy senses, you know.
And I think that oftentimes that's labeled in a negative way.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
And I hope that we get to.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
A place in humanity where those labels are now longer
put in place, because had that been different for me,
I think that when I did start to have very
strong spiritual ties and when things started to happen to me,
you know, and now I'm in my forties and I
can't deny it anymore, you know, I'm squashing it down
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for decades because I'm saying, oh my god, I have
a let me take a xanax, you know.
Speaker 3 (51:37):
And that is what I was just going to say,
is that you know the minute that when starts feeling this,
then you actually get given medication.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know it said something wrong with
this kid. You know, there's wrong with this person.
Speaker 3 (51:51):
Yeah, and there's.
Speaker 2 (51:52):
Nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (51:53):
And I believe that we all can do this, and
we all can do spirit communication or look at a
chart and be intuitive about it, or it's just a
matter if you have to sit in the quiet and
develop it. You know, you have to go into the contemplation, right,
And so for me, the experience was not fun as
a child, and looking back like it actually literally I
never had even the thought that I'm voicing now looking
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back when I started to really have some you know,
things that work could not be explained, and I was
getting communications and it happened like very spontaneously and random
for me, when I was in my forties when that
started to happen, finally looking back and.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
Saying, oh, that's what that was.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
When I was seven, Oh that's why, you know, when
I looked at my grandmother, I kind of saw colors
around her.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Oh that's what that was.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
You know. It took me half a lifetime to figure
that out, and what a shame, you know.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Yeah, this is it. Like you said just now, a
lot of it does have to happen through quiet contemplation,
but equally now with the internet and with interviews like this,
that's the point of these interviews that someone there will
think to themselves, well, I'm having that and these girls
have you know, been having it as well. And I
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know that you have been able to bring all these
tools through into the corporate world. You are Are you
corporate wellness specialist? Or it's to tell me about do
you have you brought all of this through?
Speaker 1 (53:25):
So yeah, so my I don't want to sound like,
you know, I'm any saint or anything, but I have
always had a very generous spirit, and so whenever I've
had abundance in my life, I've always given back.
Speaker 2 (53:38):
You know.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I'm the person who volunteers. I do stuff, I roll
up the shirt sleeves, I'll go to the soup kitchen.
That's just who I am. If there's someone that needs
a hand up, I'm going to help them if I can.
Because I love to see people succeed. So the reason
I think I feel that way is because there's been
so many people who gave me a hand up in
my life, and I call them the arm of angels
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who saved my life over different periods of time. But I.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Had my own brokerage firm. This is going back in.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
The early two thousands for about you know, eight years,
and I remember distinctly had I created this. And it
was so funny because I was just looking at photos
of that time in my life a few days ago,
and I created this brokerage that was very successful.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
You know, financially in all the three dimensional ways.
Speaker 1 (54:25):
But it was also a vibe like the people that
worked there and my agents and myself, we all like
had this vibe at one time where it was just
a great loving vibe, you know, which you wouldn't expect
in that corporate competitive world.
Speaker 2 (54:37):
And I remember we were doing an anniversary party.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
I had been opened for a couple of years and
I had gone into a bigger space because the business
was doing so great. And it was this anniversary party
and they all, all my agents walked into my office
with this gift and I'm like, what is that?
Speaker 2 (54:50):
And they're like, oh, it's a gift for you. And
I was like, why are you buying me a gift?
You know? And they just they were like, cause you
just helped us all so much and blah dah dah.
And I opened the card first and the card said
you are love all of them and they all signed it.
And I'm like, I am what, Like you are what?
And like open it?
Speaker 1 (55:08):
And I opened the gift and it was a plaque
that had the saying from Gandhi that said we must
be the change in the world. Oh wow, And I
was completely I'm going to cry right now.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
I was completely bowled over that here were.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
You know, these people and they this is how they
saw me, and so I couldn't believe it, and so like.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
That's lit a spark in me. And so I said yeah,
and I was like, wow, you know me.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
You know, when you find your audience, then you know
that you're being seen. And I think a lot part
of what you're talking about when you were younger, coming
in virtual awakening, so healing you've seen you weren't you
weren't taking early this these people now said totally totally.
Speaker 1 (55:58):
And so when and that was a time when I
was starting to really open spiritually, So that let a
spark in me like, oh, maybe I don't have to
live in two different worlds.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
Maybe there's a way you can integrate these energies.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
And so now fast forward fifteen years later, and I
work in a very large real estate firm, the director
of education and wellness for them. So I do mindfulness,
I do. I teach them mindset, you know, and I
coach agents through mindset. And I've also done retreats at
our local arboretum where I'll do yoga and reiki and
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gear it towards motivation for the agents, for the sales
agents in real estate. So I think that's really my
trajectory moving forward is you know, business astrology and trying
to bring wellness into little corners of the world that
don't always have wellness.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Me actually, the next door neighbor doesn't even have to
be over the world. That's beautiful about your work, now, you,
I'd love you to just share a little bit about
the how the names tell us a little bit about
that story, because that also just resonated so much with
me when I heard it.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
Right Well, I think we all have a tendency to
get defensive about our ego, we don't get like that
about our protecting our zen so much, and so Zencudah
is really the word that I created about protecting your
peace and protecting your zen and being really really committed
to that. I was in my real estate office and
a builder came in and he said, is Georgia here?
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And my secretaries said yes, And before she could answer him,
he like burst through the doors of my office and
he said, are you Georgia Westcott? And I said yeah,
and he said I heard you're a Barracudah. And I
was like, m that's that's so good. I'm thinking in
my head. But of course I was like, oh, what
do you need? You know, I want you to work
for me whatever. I ended up doing a condominium project
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with him, but it lit another spark, and I'm thinking,
to people, really see me like that, like the barracudah
who like you know, eats their young and like a shark,
you know.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
And I'm not a barrack. I'm a zencouda, you know.
I want to go, yeah, I want to be as
motivated about succeeding in life.
Speaker 1 (58:06):
I want to be that bring that motivation to my
piece and zen and living.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
Life well used. So that's that's the passion behind Zencouda.
Speaker 3 (58:15):
And I think that's such a lovely overlap for the
two of us because I know that in our we
always call ourselves astrological twins, and because our particular alignment
of planets at the time that we were born have
a certain configuration that gives us a lot of drive
and a lot of you know, passion.
Speaker 2 (58:35):
To be able to tuzzle pieces together.
Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yes, yeah, but that particular aspect in our charts does
give us that extra energy, extra passion and drive to
be able to make these things happen. So it's just
wonderful that you've been able to do all of this. Georgia,
I thank you. You are you are really somebody that well,
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thank you, thank you. This was so much fun. This
was fun absolutely.
Speaker 2 (59:05):
So can I tell everybody where to find me?
Speaker 3 (59:07):
Oh yes, please do go ahead.
Speaker 1 (59:10):
So you can find me on my YouTube channel Zenkoudah
z e n c Uda and also on social media
Instagram Zencoudah Official and on Facebook Zencodah soul Space and
you can watch me on the Soul Space every Monday
night at seven on social media or on Strong Island Television.
On YouTube, and that podcast is also on any podcast
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platform you want to be on, Apple, plot Podcasts, anything
that you watch your podcasts on.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Just ask for the soul Space with Georgia Ros