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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hey, everybody, it's Jorgia Rose in the Soul Space. Welcome tonight.
I am really excited because I have a guest, and
I don't always have a guest, but tonight I do
and I love it because I don't have to be
talking to you guys for an hour. So before I
bring my guest on, I am actually going to talk
a little astrology because we have quite a week. This
week is extreme. I know you probably guys probably felt
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that over the weekend, and we're also going to share
the show, so if you want to help me do that,
you can, and we are live now. You can also
watch us on Facebook or on YouTube, so just remember
you can either way and you can comment on either
one of those pages, so it works really well. I'm
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not kidding this, okay, And I'm going to share the
show on to our live feed on Facebook. So I
don't know if you guys all felt that energy this weekend,
but I certainly did. It was quite a thing, but
it eased off a little bit today. But we're going
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to have some building energy this week, and as the
energy builds, it'll actually bring us a little bit of disillusionment,
a little bit of more frustration, for those of you
who are feeling a little frustrated today, it's only temporary.
We're going to feel it this week. It will ease
up a little bit on the twentieth when the solstice
comes in. And of course, you guys know this all
has to do with frequency and energy and the way
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we're all vibing and vibrating, and that's what my guest
is going to talk to a little bit talk to
you about this today. But we've got Mars going into
Virgo this week. That's the biggie. So Mars going into
Virgo will bring us a more industrious phase. You know,
Mars has been in Cancer and Leo since September fourth
of twenty twenty four, the longest I can ever remember
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Mars being in a sign, kept bouncing back between Leo
and Cancer, and in that energy it was very different.
You're talking about fire and water. Now Mars goes into
an Earth's sign. It's ruled by Mercury, which is the mind,
and it's Virgo, which is industrious. So we're all gonna
feel very organizational. We're gonna feel like we want to
dig in and do some hard work. All those things
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that have been frustrating you that you haven't been able
to do, You're gonna be able to do them. Now.
For those of you who are in Sun is in
immutable sign like Pisce's Gemini Virgo or Sagittarius, you'll really
feel this energy shift. So Mars is going to be
in Virgo until August fifth, and there's some other things
that happen this week which also contribute to that energy.
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This is a week where energy is really ramping up.
That's why we feel a little disillusioned, a little frustrated.
It's going to be you know that kind of thing.
I hate to say negative things, but it will feel
like that, and then that energy will ease up next
week as some planets move around. The big thing this week,
aside from Mars going into Virgo, those of you who
are Virgos, you're going to have a real energy boost
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with this. But wherever Virgo is in your chart, look
because that's the house that is getting energized. But the
other big thing that's happening is Jupiter is going to
leave its square with Saturn and go into it square
with Neptune. And that's going to make us very imaginative.
It's going to bring in things about faith. It's going
to be very philosophical. We can also exaggerate things in
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that energy because Neptune is an energy where boundaries dissolve.
So where in your life are you feeling unbound and
where do you kind of have to set boundaries. It's
going to be a huge theme in the next week
or so. And then of course on the summer solstice,
the sun enters cancer. That is an energy where we
are really coming into more of summer season warmth eat.
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We will also feel more compassionate and empathic in our hearts,
and that Mars and Virgo energy that makes us so industrious.
That sun and cancer energy balances that out to make
us industrious for things that we really value and the
things that are valuable to us. So with that, I
am going to introduce my wonderful guest. He was on
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the show quite some time ago, and ever since then,
you guys have been actually asking me to bring him
back on. So I have now done that, and here
I am with Phoenix, Green Phoenix. We love that we
have you have the shaman residence up in the back.
I love that, so Phoenix, to give you, yeah, to
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give you a bigger introduction, Phoenix is a very good
friend of mine. I love Phoenix. I love his energy,
and if you ever meet him live or go to
him for anything healing or reading or whatever, you are
going to feel his energy right off the bat. He's
just like pure love. So Phoenix is an energy healer.
He's a reiki practitioner. He also reads oracle cards, but
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his posts about what's called the human residence are really
his forte. He is a believer of frequency and aligning
us to the four fields of frequency, which he'll talk
about tonight. So please welcome him and Phoenix. I guess
we should start off by just having a basic talk
about vibration and frequency, like talk to us, like talk
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to us like we're five's.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Got I think everybody can understand harmonic resonance. You know,
that's the that's probably the biggest human residents. It's the
harmonic residence. And and I always like to say it's
like when you know a bell is wrong, or if
you're ringing a singing bowl, you know, like you have
to create the residence, right like, and what you're doing
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is when you hit you strike the singing ball. That
residence is what creates this harmonic frequency. So with the
shuman residence and our human residence is normally like seven
point eighty three herts. So that's the natural beat of
what the Earth goes through. And when we say heartbeat,
what we're talking about is in the ionosphere. And then
iosphere is like everything that's been trapped in the upper
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portions of the atmosphere, and it's this portion where the
gamma rays and solar burst and like all these things. Though,
this cosmic energy gets you know, collected, and when it
gets collected, it's like ringing the bell, and that bell.
Then we are able to determine this and view this
and measure this, and we can see these fluctuations happen
during certain times of whether it be spiritual enlightenment, whether
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it be you know, a cosmic enlightenment or earth enlightenment.
You know, where the Earth goes through the evolutionary periods,
they seem to be tied to this shamanic residence. Now,
with the shamanic.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Residence, it was I'm going to just jump in because
when you first turned me on to this human residence
must have been like five years ago, and ever since then,
I can feel it like I know, and I see
it out in the the you know, when you go
outside the house or you're actually act out and just
you know, with people, it's almost sometimes like the screen
behind you with all the white energy. When it's like that,
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I feel sometimes like I'm gonna bee hive, right, you know,
it's like the earth is buzzing.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I'm coming here, you know, when I'm when I'm when
I'm being you know, coming to on the podcast that
there seems to be some type of Shuman spike that
seems to happen, and we just had.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
We're spike in the world, So.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It tends to be you know, correlate, and it tends
to be correlate. It's very cyclical too, so around this
time last year, we've also had some Shoman spikes. And
I think some of the largest Shuman spikes that we've
had was back in twenty twenty three of recent and
I think that was around the same time. I think
it was that June fifteenth to like June eighteenth, you know, timeframe.
So tends this time of it's like the planet is
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just getting hit so hard and it's like the residence
is so high and we feel it. And as we've
shifted to a season, you know, the plan, it is
definitely going to feel this and affect us, and it's
going to emanate this energy back out, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And I noticed, like you say, this time of year,
the sun is going into cancer, and cancer is all
about the heart, compassion, and it seems like I know,
sometimes when tragedy happens in the world, like we had
that plane crash or something happens, I noticed that the
vibration of the earth spikes because I think people are
more compassionate maybe, you know, like we're get a higher I.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Think grief, empathy, I think, and gratitude. I think all
of those three tend to be co related to these
human spikes. Now again, it could be our grief, it
could be our you know, gratitude in a sense ringing
the earth like us, all our conscious level, all you know,
and emitting this this gratitude towards the earth. And that
aspect is like ringing the bell in a sense. Right.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
The fact that these energies.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are triggering our own internal challenges and awareness, and I
think I think that's a very important aspect, is that
you can have it on both ways. You know, these
energies can definitely be triggering and cause these types of
like symptoms that the ascension symptoms, and you hear all
these you know, terms and stuff, and it's just basically
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just our way of adapting or acclimating to the energy spikes, you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Know, right, And I think that who we have a
spike of any kind, you got to adjust to it,
just like like you said, harmonically, if you're playing music,
you have to adjust the volume, you have to adjust
your cadence. So we, you know, as humans, we have
to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And we know that when the harmonic frequencies change, like
we know four thirty two herts and we know five
twenty eight herts, like these are very common frequencies. And
these frequencies are related to the improvement of our well being.
And I think that's an important aspect to to understand
when we're dealing with the human spike. Is it an
effect that's happening to our well being? What's happening to
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our wellbeing when these spikes, these spikes are happening, you know?
And that I think really stems down to each individual's
personal experience, because I've had people that two and spikes
are like, oh, everything's great, everything's wonderful. That could be
happening too, And I have a collective aspect where people
are more like, no, I'm really like tuning in. There's
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there's something deeper. And I always say, it's not what's
happening to you, it's what happening around you to other people.
So you might be in an environment where you're easually
like affected in a sense by it, but other people
are because of their environment and their connection to it.
And I think that's an important aspect too, is once
we learn to really slow down and really connect to
the harmonic tricky. Remember it's seven point eighty three hurts.
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We're not talking about one hundred hertz or a thousand,
you know, like it doesn't need to be that addressed.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And people you know with astrology, like you know as
above so below exactly what you're saying makes me feel
like when I look at the transits and I know
certain trends are happening, and also you can hear planets
in the outer space, I feel the planets speak to me. Sometimes.
I can feel like, especially if I'm studying a certain
planet a certain transit, I can feel it when I
read someone's chart. I do it psychically and do it astrologically.
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But I also feel the chart. I feel a vibration.
So when you think about what you just said, that
vibration is affecting everyone on the planet in some way,
you know, the spinning around with all those planets, So.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Is happening, right, that's happening to you. You might have
a different perspective than somebody else, and I always take
that into account when of these energy spikes are happening,
what's happening in your daily life and your own person
you can see and be part of that. You're like, oh, well,
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now I can understand why this is happening to me
and why something else happened to somebody Else's so hard that, Yeah,
but we get so tied into like when we see
these spikes, we assume that all these spikes are happening,
so I'm not or I'm having these symptoms, and the
necessarily it doesn't exactually happen like that. And I think
that's the important aspect. It really turns into how you're
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tuning yourself to the fency. Yeah, that's resonance is like
when we tune into something, we're looking for something to
come back, you know. So once we tune into the
the universe you know, whether it's consciousness, spiritual work. That
they always say that when you tune in, it's like
you're standing the signal out and then then we receive
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the signal back.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
So that word configuration, yeah, because we configure ourselves through
an energy, but we can't do that unless we're receiving
it and also taking it, you know, giving it. And
it's got to be a figure eight really is what
it comes down to.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's a symbol that we've seen so many times of feminology.
Like it's that it's that repeat event cyclical energy that
just keeps coming back perfect in that perfect right, you know.
And I think that's the greatst thing about harmonial frequency
is that four thirty two herts is that is that
pathway happening at the exact moment, at that exact aspect,
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and you're feeling all of that vibrational frequency and you
have you're vibing with it. You know, you're feeling the.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Good lives of you know, we've all fell that.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
You know, that's four thirty two hurts. That's that's a
lot of frequency. Seven point eighty three, Like seven point
eighty three is a very small amount, but it's when
people putting into when we ground our feet, we're tuning
to that seven point eight three hurts right.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
For those who do yoga, as I know you do,
it's that somebody. It's that you know, when you get
into that free flow where you really you know, I've
had this so many times in meditation or even when
receiving reiki, where you're just light, you you you're no
longer a body now you're just complete light in that
beautiful field. That's when you're in perfect harmony with the energy.
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And I think that we like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Love That's why you hear that, right, Harmonic frequency, light frequency,
Like why are they called frequencies because they're happening on
this very intrinsic, very small aspect of our lives. And
once you tune into them, you can tune into light,
you can tune into sound frequency. Like that's the that's
the beauty of it. And that's that That's why I
love so much about hormonic residents, is that when we
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really sit back and we become you know, the singing ball,
and that's when the environment or or what's happening in
the world is tuning us. We're getting we're getting hit
by it, and all of a sudden we're like, WHOA,
what's going on? But then when we go back and
we start tuning ourselves, and we start saying, wait a minute,
what if I tune back to the universe basically getting
perception And now we're tuning that energy back. And I
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think that's the most important thing too, is that's when
the discharge. When we do tree energy work and stuff
like that, we're putting that the tree and the trees
discharging that energy back into the earth. Is this constant
exchange of energy.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I know one of your favorite places is the same
as mine, the arboretum by us right right, And I'll
tell you it's such a vortex because every time I
go there, I have the experience you're describing. As soon
as I start to walk certain paths there, I can
feel the energy around me and the grounding, and I
can feel how as I walk, I can actually feel
my feet now becoming in sync with it because we're
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allowing it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
There's definitely these points to call, like, you know, these
positive aspects of harmonic residence that you can feel higher
in certain areas like uh Prosser Pines, you know, and
and so talk it or actually I think that's in
uh yeah, Pink, I think it is. And in that
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area it's another thing too. You walk in and all
of a sudden you just turn around and you still
hear the cars, but eventually if you go further in,
you don't heal the cars. Small is like that, yeah,
and there's a lot of that. You slow down and
you start to really like connect and those environments give
you that. And that's when I used to a lot,
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and I used to go a lot more. But when
you would go out to these areas during these times
of these high these high spikes and stuff like that,
you could really tune in and really connect more than
you're just sitting at home on your computer, on your
you know, room doom, strolling on your phone. You're really
not going to connect in that aspect that you would
if you're sitting in a forest. And that's where because
now you're not just using your your ears, you know,
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you're not just using your eyes. You're using the Pizio
electric and that's piece. When you sit on the ground
and those negative ions come up, you're tuning into that
seven point We are a huge receptor, you know. And
that's the thing when you tune into and you ground yourself.
That's what you're doing. You're lighting that all your chapers
everything up and you don't even have to hear the frequency.
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You feel the frequency. And I think that's another aspect
that's really important too, is that once you start to
really learn that it's not about listening, that it's about feeling,
and then you all of a sudden you're like, whoa,
I'm tuning into these frequencies that I didn't even let go.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
You let go of that.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It's an amazing feeling when you start to really start
to let go of that like either I'm crazy or
like this isn't really happening. But then all of a sudden,
you start to really tune into these frequencies and either
get the hum or, you start getting really deeper and
deeper into this. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's why I love I have singing bowls, and I
think it's one of the best kids I ever get got.
And I always sometimes I can tell if I'm just
like even like lately, with a lot of the Gemini
energy around, I get a little scattered, and I immediately
just start doing a singing bowl and connecting with it,
and it's like it's like I got medicine. You know,
it's so beautiful back.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Into that hormonic residence. Like we all resonate and when
we get wrong by you know, current events or whatever,
you know, condition like it is conditioning absolutely even with
the human residence.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's this beautiful thing and you know to be able
to if you allow yourself to vibe with the frequency.
And yet a lot of times people will be like, oh,
it's making me sick. It's doing this, and you'll even
read up on it and you'll say that you know,
humans have this you know, relationship with it where you
will get a headache and you will get stomach ache
when the earth is vibrating a certain way or and yes,
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we edit, she can make us sick, but it doesn't
have to be that way, you know, Like I always say,
step into your own experience and really feel what that
is before you read online. Oh that's why I have this.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, well that's I mean, that's the problem of perspective, right,
is that you're not making our own perspective anymore. You know,
our perspective is being cohorced, it's being manipulated, it's being processed.
You know, it's all these terms that we hear with
food in some aspects, and it's happening on that level,
you know, and our conscience and our consciousness is starting
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to become more aware of it.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
We're starting to realize every time.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
I don't know if that's exactly where you want to
put yourself, you know, it's like that's where you want
to become.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Going to become more heightened.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Ie, it's like, I'm not letting that ring my bell,
Like that's not something I want to resonate with, right.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And I think that that's the natural evolution of our
species because as we keep getting like what do you
do with all this information you have? You have to
start to separate. And that's also Mars and Virgo, separating
eat from the chafe. What is good nourishment to me
and what is the garbage? You know. I think that
you're going to see that, especially for the rest of
this year, You're going to see a lot of that
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discernment come really into height with the planetary things that
we have, because twenty twenty six is the year where
we really start to come into what is true to us.
And then twenty twenty seven is the rise of the
Sleeping Phoenix. So you're really going to love that year.
But yeah, but I think that this is we're in
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a transitional time now. That's why everything is so heightened.
You know, we have to get poked in the back
in order to realize we have we have something we
got to get rid of. So I think that discernment
that you speak of, and that's why frequency is so important.
I know that you work with what they call the
four fields, which I think really speaks to all of this.
So talk a little bit about that and then we'll
go back to the human.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
I mean the pens or physical.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah, I know, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
One of the people that I follow is The Healer's Manual.
Great uh Ted Andrew is rather mean. He wasn't one
of the first persons that resonated with as other people have,
but I happened to read it and I was like,
the first thing was about learning how to master your physical, emotional, mental,
and spiritual.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Is he the same one who wrote the Animals Speak book?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yes? Absolutely, Yeah, definitely one of my favorite as far
as like and people that speak energy and the Healer's Manual,
I honestly think it's got to be one of the
most cohes like perfectly put together. If you're looking to
become a healer. There's a lot of aspects, and he
talks about sound resonation and uh and how you why does.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
It resonate with you? As the perfect manual? Like what
makes it so for you?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Because it really talks about the you know, implements those
fore fields. It puts those fore fields into action because
I had I had a plan. I downloaded all my information,
you know, from which the green phoenix. So once I
was able to tap into that type of that field,
that energy, like I saw energy happen through our bodies
in the fore fields. The physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual
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aspect is just the grounding aspect, you know. It's how
our body, how our body moves. It's the root, the sacral,
and the solar of those three chakras are connected to that.
So it's basically physical we're doing in our life? How
is that related? What actions are we trying to do?
How much energy do we have to do those actions right?
And then it goes on. It goes on to the
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emotional field. And the emotional field is basically what your
feelings are, how you're feeling, what you're feeling towards you know,
your gratitude versus your compassion that you have, and I
feel that you have to fill up your own cup.
That's the higher heart chakra. The higher heart chakra brings
that energy back in so it can be compassionate. So
you're filling up your own heart.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Just about this day, one of my friends is going
for open heart surgery and I was saying, now, well,
he had something happened to in his life where he
literally had a heartbreak and then whom he ends up,
you know, So those chakras will never lie to you exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And that's the thing. It's like, once you start to
learn that, you can hopefully to have better health for yourself,
especially emotional health. I feel like emotional. I mean we
all know physical, emotional, and mental, spiritual, these are all
different types of healths, but emotional health seems to be
something that we really have more of a control over
that we're just giving it out to again, whether it
be to the phones, whether it be to other things
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like that.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
We just don't realize their own agency with that. That's
the issue. People People give away their emotional health all
the time, correct.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it's it's just really just focusing on what you're
grateful of and focusing on how much gratitude because the
more we build gratitude, the more compassion we have for
to be a compassion and the beings probably not a
lack of compassion in the world, it's.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
A lack of right.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And I always think everything you know, like you you're fine, Yeah,
I mean, we're not implementing the gratitude. And that's what
the whole the emotional energy field really focuses on. You know,
we focus on that aspect and as we move to
the top to the mental field. The mental is all
about our thought process, how how are communicating our feelings?
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What actions are you going to speak?
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
You know, and then we go to the last one
is the spiritual, and the spiritual is your belief. It's
it's putting it all together without your thought, without your feelings,
and without any actions. What belief do you have? Like
your belief is made up what you what those are
the actions reluctively right, and that comes together and then
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once you're putting your fore fields together. So that's something
that I help people teach the master that because once
you're able to master the fulfields, you're starting to realize
that things aren't just happening, things are happening on individual fields.
Like for instance, like if we're trying to change the
health of our body and we're eating certain foods, but
we're seeling a certain way, our body has been sending
the message it's not our brain, it's not it's our bodies. Listen,
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stop eating that, you know. And I'm personally going through
back to my own personal journey, you know, cutting out
some meats and some of the things that just slowed
my body down. And now all of a sudden, I'm
processing faster and I'm starting to connect better because I'm
becoming realizing the right from the energy that comes from
the cosmos. I want to resonate with that energy. And
you can't resonate when you're not living in your physical bolity.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
That you say that because one of the there's two
things that I do. One I do all the time
all year is whenever I eat any food at all,
I actually send energy to the food and blessed with
great energy before I eat it. And that's what I
just really Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
And that's the thing about resonance. And it's a great
thing that you said that, because that's the thing. When
we put those intentions into things, we get what we're back.
When we forget to do it, we don't realize, like, well,
why that's.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
The traditions is saying grace for a meal originated?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Right? What's the whole point? Set that intention so that
you pass on that wellness into your body. You're telling
the food to enivinate to express wellness.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And it may be mental, I don't know, but I
have a garden every summer and I really nurture those
little babies and I put all kinds of energy in them,
and I like bless them. And when I eat food
from the garden, it is the most delicious food I've
eaten in my life.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's everything.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Yeah, you know, like you know how you love watermelon?
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
You love watermelon?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
We have, you know absolutely.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I always try to grow it, but I haven't gotten there.
Maybe this year will be the year of the reiki watermelon.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Very hard to grow a lot of room for them,
you know, because it's.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, but it's so true just being able to be
a part of nature that way and eat food that
you have really grown in a sacred place. You know,
that's you're nourishing yourself on such a different level, right,
and so you kind of put your website up.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I think you know what I'm saying that you're not
resonating at that level to obtain that knowledge, for that
wisdom that's being passed from your body. You know, from
your your your mind, you know, your heart and your
spirit anually like that, that's where the spirituality comes from.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Like Phoenix, we have your website up on the screen
and tell people how they can find you. Because you're
such an interesting guy. I just love everything that you do.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I haven't really been doing a lot with the webs
I'd be honest with you. I've had this website since
like twenty twenty. There are some that you do go
about taking your own medicine quest, you know, learning about
which Phoenix you connect with, and that lets lets you
connect to the fore fields, you know, figure out what
service do you need. Because I offer different types of services,
whether it be reiki, you know, pat reiki. I've been
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really focusing on a lot of animals, helmets, you know,
it's one of my biggest aspects that I'm really connected with.
You know, I always offer free you know, pat reiki
to people. If you you want me to come to
your house for reiki. Then if you have an animal,
I always offer free free pet reiki to you, you know,
because it's just something that I'm.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Are you still doing your nature walks and things like that.
I love what you did.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I've been solely become a caretaker from my elderly dog
as she's getting closer to you.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Okay, Rainbow Bridge.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
She's got the oscio socoma, which is very popular bone cancer.
It's a very popular thing and dogs particularly, and like
rescue reads in particular.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
We're going today.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
But what I think is about is that it's teaching
me about pre grief. It's teaching me about understanding the
frequencies and the energies. Like when the Shuman's off, I
noticed everything's off that and everything else. It's like I like,
once I do that, I'm going to start moving and
start doing more of my nature walks.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Your Meadia there, Now you have a contract. I said.
The biggest the biggest lesson I learned from my dog
I sold off with Sparky. You know Sparky when he passed.
The biggest lesson I learned from him was in permanence. Yeah,
and it really because I have a lot of scorpio energy,
so you know, we have that attachment. So having the
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dog really maybe realize again with gratitude, if you're if
you're with someone or something a connection and it's a
really good connection, whether it's five minutes, five months, five years,
or five lifetimes, just be grateful of that moment because
nothing is permanent.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Right, And that's the only thing I say that dogs
are is that they're eternal. Yeah, especially with soul dogs,
you know, and it could be you could have a
dog for two days or you could have a dog
for almost twenty years. To me, it's the same. You
could just have that and then they're gone. And like
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that's like soulmates do that, right, you only get there
versal period of time and then you're gone, Like the
same aspect when you meet that soul dog, like that
time that they're in your life is only a short care.
And I think the last time I was talking about that,
but I don't know communication and you.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Know, on animal reiki, Yeah yeah, yeah, but he taught me.
He taught me that whatever is in your life was
just meant to walk with you for a while, and
be grateful to walking with you for a while.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's the bug that I'm learning
that too, is to slow down and really pay attention
to it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Mm hmmm. So now what do you think about when
you know people say the human residence has a certain
effect on people, like you know, brain waves and consciousness
of course, but also they say like blood pressure and
like is that do youribe to that?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Like, tell us a little bit about that before the
earth resident point eight three herds? Right, so that's one
point three eight three herds can be obtained by grounded.
You know, I spend sleeping with the grounding bracelet. You know,
the grounding mat. I sleep with it. It's attached to
the ground board outlet whatever. And I noticed when I
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don't sleep with it, I tend to be a little
the next day, I tend to have plus energy and
just not focused. But I can wake up more centered
and focused when I'm when I'm grabbing.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
So what would you recommend to ground if you're bracelet?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Well, I think I think that I'm sorry. What was
the question?
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Like, what would you recommend if someone needed felt they
needed something to ground them, like especially during sleep?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Oh so device or way to.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Do crystals or what would you Oh?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Great, we can saw crystals. First, I love that. I
think those are really key stones for developing a grounded
and a wellness type of sleep. It sets up you know,
the selenite you were talking PiZZ Celeni. Yeah, particularly the
peach cell and I has to be more. And I
call it the healer selenite because it helps re charge
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after you know, energy sessions and whatnot. And when you
pair it with the black tomaline, it's an grounding and
protection that it's unheard of. And sometimes I'll put a
little I wear amethyst bracelets. Sometimes I'll put an amethyst
bracelet onto my table mine because you know, sometimes when
we sleep, our mind tends to At three am, we're like,
(30:48):
why was brown? You know, like it's like these like
weird things that we just all.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I wake up and write things in my phone that
I don't remember doing, and then I wake up in
the morning, I'm like, wow, that was so profound. Georgia
Angel told you that one. But but I have a
friend who gifted me a crystal ball up that is
a big black tormaline, my very good friend. I have
to call her because we haven't spoken. But the black
tormaline I didn't think to put it in my bedroom.
(31:13):
I should probably do that. I have someone else.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
I love tormaline. If it's in the four corners of
your house, that's like my my go Like my apartment
is four corners, there's there's tomaline in there. And the
real each need has a nice little chunk, you know,
like a decent size, and what it does it just
puts that overall protection and really grounds your your your apartment.
And I've noticed that you're.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
For us to harmonize with the frequencies you think.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, so that's another thing too. I mean you can
also do uh, you can harmonize with certain crystals that
that harmonize with frequencies. I mean we all know that
the balls are made out of courts. Yeah, well, and
it resonates those frequencies based off the dimension of the ball.
The size of the ball determined what frequency.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
That because that courts always resonate so much better with
me than the brass ones, the mute the too.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I've had some really profound experiences with the brass too,
But like I'm more connected to with the healing. That's
small little bowl it's like, and you especially work on
the heart or see those it tends to be the
two frequencies. I love F which is for the heart,
and I love C which is really good for grounding.
So it's like connect to the roof.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like whatever I'm going through, whatever chakra and having a
little difficulty, I'll play. I'll work with that bowl a lot,
like every morning for a while.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I found that to be effective. I've also found with
chakra work because it sometimes you think that it's not
it's the one underneath it or the one above. So
tom sometimes i'll do a collective where I'll do like,
let me just do three chakras in that those fields.
I'll do a mental one for the third eye, I'll
do a heart one for the heart, and I'll do
an event. Yeah, these are the events I used to
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do actually at Yeah, I know, and I found, you know,
it's important to get out of course and you know,
and advertise this kind of stuff because I feel like
this is some of the things that people may have forgotten,
you know when I think.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
So, and I think that what's happened also and the
reason why light workers like you and I and the
ones who listening tonight, they're so important for us to
get out and do our work because I feel like
especially the last six months of twenty twenty five, because
there's so much change. A lot of times because the
conditioning that we have in the world, people label it
negative right away, right, and we have to get out
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and remind them, like you just did with frequency, that
not everything's a negative. You know, you want to synchronize
with the higher vibe and do the things that resonate
with you. And that's why I love when I have
guests on the show, because you know, crystals may be
the thing for one person, and you know, maybe yoga
for another, or just nature for another, and like, just
it doesn't matter what it is, just get into something
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that brings you to your soul space.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
And I agree. I think that's one thing that you
can argue and say that just works. Just you being
present is like singing bowls, you know, because I've had
people that are like, I've never had a singing bowl experience.
I don't know what this is about. And I just
tell him listen to slay down, open your ears. That's
their first level to be able to hear it, right,
(34:09):
They got to here, but once it goes in all
of a sudden, they wake up and they're like, and
I'm like exactly you describe resident. I can't teach the presidence.
I can't. I could tell them what it is, but
until you have an experience, you're just like, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's like trying to describe what an orange taste. An
orange tastes like you gotta eat it.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Describe how these shooting spikes affect people. Do you understand
when I'm on the group page and I'm writing stuff
like there, I could have so many different perspectives when
it comes to the importance of just sticking to the facts.
Like when there's a blackout, for instance, a black line,
that's it. There's a lot of speculation and a lot
of conspiracy. It says that it's a timeline shift or
(34:52):
something like that, but I left it's simply the saying, listen,
I don't have anything it for that area. I'm blocking
it out right. When you see the blackout on this
screen that goes that goes over here, that's just what's
not loaded yet. So there's always a black portion on
the graph that's just not loaded because it only goes
by the time stands. So if it's and the time stands,
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this is coming. The speeds are coming from Siberia. So
it's eleven hours if you're on the east coast, which
we are, you know, so you have to look at
and say, eleven hours back to where where it reflectible
that happened all this happened. And I'm like, no, no, no,
you got to know that it's eleven hours because that's
Siberia measuring it. So Siberia measured it, but it happened
eleven hours when we felt it. It's like I got
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different parts of the parts of the universe, like lights
that come from different parts of uh, like different stars.
We know that when the car from the start, how
far the star is, like it could be millions of
miles away. That's the light from a million years ago.
People don't understand that. And that's the aspect when it
comes to here.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Is like, yeah, solar flares, people like Colara, Well it
happened two weeks ago, but just yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But the stipulations is and I think the hysteria that
comes from it is that people want to jump on
it and blame the human spikes. What's happening. And that's why,
like you.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
What hooks me on the human spikee It.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
May not be what you're seeing as and you must
be again.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Right. You want to get your data from internal, your
internal agency, not Facebook. Do not allow your spiritual barama
to be Facebook.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It might not differ.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Check in, check in with yourself. Me hooked on the
Shuman was when I read about how when the when
the world has certain really you know, big things happened,
like nine to eleven happened. The Shuman residents spiked and
they said, because there was so much compassion throughout the Earth.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
That I told you, and compassion when yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know brief call and its compassion and meets it
and goes boom.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Earth is like.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Wow, yeah, for grief is gratitude and has to.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Bring electric field.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
So yeah, that's true. And so that's what made me
suddenly get interested in it. And I started to watch
and I was like, wow, it really does have a
heartbeat right here, a heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well, this is an important master. I'm glad we brought
this up because there's two aspects when we think about heartbeat. Okay,
so when we're talking Schumann, A lot of people get
this confused too. They think it's the internal inside the
planet like boom boom, boom boom. That's not that heartbeat.
It's the iono sphere, so it's happening outside of it,
and it's from the amount of lightning strikes that happens
the ion sphere that chards the ion sphere. It's a
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very important aspect. People think it can also be the
amount of cosmic energy in that ion sphere, which is
another really important what you.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Just described, Like that's why I know that the astrology
is so important to it.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Because it's coming out there. It's got to go through
the ionosphere to get to us, so of course he's
going to really we think about that.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I don't believe that people don't believe in astrology because
when you really dive into astrology where you got to
go to astrologia because I just said fifty years you're
not going to know it, but there, you literally cannot
not believe in it when you start to really go
into it, like it's just there. It's telligent it's your roadmap, guys,
get you get your reading done included dot com.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
And what's fascinating is that there's there actually is another heartbeat. Okay,
there's a heart that happens every twenty six seconds in
this planet and it's located they found. There's a couple
theories behind it. The first theory is that it's ocean
waves crashing shelf. Okay, but this is creating this like heartbeat,
(38:45):
there's residence and they're saying that could be that's that's
what we could be measuring. They don't know where it's
coming from.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Is it instant?
Speaker 2 (38:55):
No, they're saying that it's coming from like like the planet,
like guy, we know guys alive and you know, Earth breathing.
In the satellite images that we have from Nasau, we
really can see how the how the planet does. So
what I'm talking about is there is the other theory.
In twenty thirteen, this came from China and they found
(39:15):
that volcanic activity in South Tome Island. It's the Bite
of Bunny, it's called. And in this there is a
there is a pulse that's coming from within this volcano
and they have they have no idea what is cool,
who's sending this, where it's coming from, but they know
they've located this and that's where they're thinking that this
(39:35):
and the other theory that this could be dark matter,
that dark matter could be causing the heart to uh,
the heart of the Earth to resonate with it, you know,
because we haven't found that yet. And I believe that
the center for a theory and I do believe in
those those theories that there is some hollow earth in
this but I also believe that there's a hustle of
heart within this planet, and I believe that that's just something
(39:57):
that you know, we talked about protecting the planet, which is.
Speaker 1 (40:00):
Believed the universe is certainly speaking to us, that's for sure. Yeah,
So whatever the energy is can be right, and it
doesn't have to be an actual thing in a place.
Energy can be a consciousness, right.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And that's the other aspect is that while we're having
all this cosmic energy and everything affecting iono sphere and
building the ion sphere up, we're also having we're also
finding that the energy that's that's falling in this in
this iono sphere, that we're able to start to collect it.
And we're starting to realize that all our anxiety, like
all those things affect what's put up in the ions.
So so we're putting the energy up and then they
(40:36):
get supercharged by lightning and cosmic particles and then the
Shumann spike. That's another you have to look at is
that it's also the contributor of our grief, our anxiety,
and then also a compassion and gratitude. And that's when
you see, like, that's why these spikes are not positive
or negative.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
These are just the So you have to be carelesus
what you put out in the world.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Oh that's true too, So a spike can be from grief.
When we've had again nine to eleven and then we
had the prayer like that when we had COVID, we
had that prayer that happened.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
And we saw the spike that that was a huge pike.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
We saw it. It was clear as day. There's no
argument against it. There's seven point eighty three before the
right when the meditation happened, boom, it spiked all the
way up to like sixty seventy eighty.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
You know, there's a response to our consciousness and our energy.
There's a response.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
It's that you know this, we know that there's evidence
that support us.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah. See this is what they need to teach in school.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Oh I agree, yeah, I mean like, but the problem
is is that who once says the attention for it? See, Now,
this is why I love it, is that this is
a great topic because people say it's like, well, why
are they not teaching in school? Well, I have to
say is why don't people have the attention span? Because
right now, the attention span of an average a school
kid in school is anywhere from like two to three minutes.
(41:54):
That's what I'll tell you. I'll tell you they're on
their head there answer.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That for you. And I'm going to tell you a
quick story because it's you know, now we have the
generation the young, Like I have two fourteen year old
twin niece and nephew, and they're the generation that don't
know not having anything in their hand. They were born
with something in their hand they were looking at You know,
I'm a generation that we didn't have that. There's not
a generation behind me. Behind me. Every generation had a phone.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Or some we had that right book, there are millions
of books that are accessed on the internet. Now, you know,
here's but.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Here's where we've gone with it. So today I was
teaching a training class because I teach sales agents. I'm
i sell real estate and I also teach sales agents.
So today I was in a class and I said
to them, there was somebody else doing doing this meeting
actually with somebody else doing the meeting, and they asked
them to for a topic, you know, about something, and
so all of them said, oh, let's just ask AI.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Well I said, okay, so you're supposed to be the expert,
but now you're asking AI. How long is it going
to be before your clients and customers don't need you
because they can just go to AI. I mean it's
they argue with me about it, but that's what that's
the attention span. You don't have at to sit and
figure out problem without going to some device. That's the problem.
(43:18):
That's why no one has an attention span. Not pro AI.
I mean, I use it. It's made my life easier.
I'm welcome to it. But I have a short on
YouTube right now. AI is never going to feel for
you the compassion. It's not going to feel for you.
It's not change the heartbeat.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
So a lot of people upload their images into it
and create these little wellness like it looks really great.
But to me, this is my image is who I am,
and it's like I don't want anybody to steal it.
I mean they can, you know, Like to me, it's
just like, but here's the thing about AI, this is
what I love, is that al there's no transfer wisdom,
so you can upload upload, hear me, You have to
program AI in order for it to be able to
(44:00):
register and look. It has to be connected to the
Internet in order to download the information Britannica and all
these other sources.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Right programs. Yeah, but the thing about AI is Phoenix,
is that it's shortening the attention span of the human
That's the problem. I mean, I'm for AI in the
right way, but no one's teaching children the proper way
to use devices. No one's teaching us not to let
go of our humanness. You can use all those things
(44:28):
and still be human. But when you use all those
things and you're no longer human, that's the problem. And
that's why talking about frequency and harmony is so so important,
because if someone like you just said, can't lay down
and feel their own chakra system, can't feel that resonance
with Earth, with other people, then where is the species
(44:51):
of humanity going? How are we evolving? We have to
evolve our humanness as well, And that's why what you
do is so important.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Now you see the struggles with creating hormonic presidence. It's
how to create hormonic residents in these environments that are
so toxical, meaning that our own personal environments within our
own bodies like these toxic with views, opinions, and non
factual information that people are just like, this is how
it is, or this is what I believe it is.
(45:23):
It's not belief, it's just the thought. That's that's that's
that's just creating this cognitive dissonance from you, and you're
just not understanding to use discernment and say to yourself, hey, listen,
what's the proper way of looking at them? Looking at
something from the earth view, Like I try to look
at the thing from the cosmos and out, not from
what's happening in my immediate you know area, Like you
have to look at really pull yourself back and really
(45:45):
look at what's really happened.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, and why we.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Respond, that's that's our that's probably our biggest and that
happens within the four fields avantage. I've seen that with
people having like that, it's because they're reacting on and
not respond not not really obtaining the information and digesting it.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
They're just regurgiting, right, And that's what every light in
the world needs because crazy.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
It's like, did a I program you or you program AI?
You know? It's like and that's that's That's really what
it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
We were talking before the show and then I said,
which came first, chicken or the egg?
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Right? But if you think about that, like, are people
being programmed by spirit and connecting and getting that wisdom
or are they being programmed by people already doing so
cold work that they did for themselves? You know what
I'm saying, Like, really think about that, and then you
start to really realize why we're so out of sync
and not any.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
People are using AI for therapy now, like AI is
their therapist. It makes them feel better, which is okay,
you can do that. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm
just saying, like, how much humanness did you lose? There?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah? And also, isn't it isn't the most beautiful and
most important thing we have in life? Connection?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
It's probably the single most thing that makes us human.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
Right, So if now we're giving that up because we
don't want to be vulnerable or we're fearful, or we
don't have anyone to talk to, like you just said,
wouldn't common sense tell you? Oh, there might be something
I have to fix here. Why is this happening to me?
Let me try and get into a different frequency. But no,
everyone's like, oh no, I use a I from my therapist. Okay,
(47:29):
that's great, keep doing that.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You know, are you just improving on what the AI
is telling you to work on? Are you really improving
on the things that you need to like that's the
program to be better problem?
Speaker 1 (47:45):
Depending on the prompts probably does tell you, you know,
hey you need to you know, be more empathetic, or hey,
you need to work on this thing, but you don't
have a connection with it.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I mean, I know this by AI right singing bowl themselves.
There's there's a humanistic that there's another practice where you're
sitting singing bowl and a human will make mistakes, a
human will hit the ball differently to generate that frequency
what it's meant to do in program to do well?
Speaker 1 (48:16):
So it's programmed. Yeah, And I feel I say this
all the time, like, do you ever go to a
beautiful concert or you know, you go to see fireworks
or something beautiful and people are on their phones, they're
all taking pictures And I never do that because I
just want to feel the energy in live when it's happening.
So my theory is, if you're going to be doing
reiki or singing bowl session with someone, they come to you,
(48:39):
it's all divinely orchestrated, because I believe in God, Creator,
whatever you want to call him. So now someone's come
to you, and and maybe those mistakes aren't really the mistakes.
Maybe you're supposed to play this bowl and then that
bowl and this because that person laying on the table
or on their yoga mat has been divinely guided to you,
and God is orchestrating what's coming through your hands. How
(49:00):
I could a recording on a I do that it's
not gonna be.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Honestly influencers when they're out there and they're they're they're
doing these like AI created you know, event posts and
stuff like that, and then you get there and they're
not creating the same type of energy. How disappointing is
someone going to be if you're focused on that and
not really tuned in.
Speaker 1 (49:20):
Of course, Well, I'm not saying it's in a negative way,
and I don't want to buck anyone because there's a
lot of great people on media right now, but I
will say that there is also a category that's just
become performance artists. Oh yeah, and when you have the
proper energy and you're really heart based, you're not a
performance artist. Kim Chiana put up a beautiful post the
other day about that and how she kind of went
(49:41):
private with her healing work and and the same like,
I'm very strategic about what I put out. I'm not
looking to become a huge influencer. I just want to
inspire one or two people who need to listen and
found me and that was what they needed that day.
And I seem to get feedback on that a lot,
and I'm happy with that. You know I'm doing God,
you start.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
To focus on quality instead, yeah, and attractive. It's like
I got, you know, a twelve hundred followers just today, Like, okay,
that's great, but what do you like? It's like when
I say this about energy, it's like, you can learn
everything about energy, but how are you implementing it? How
are you acclimating it? How are you putting it into action?
(50:22):
I think what is your most important aspect of grounding
the spiritual aspects of these energies and doing something with it?
Speaker 1 (50:31):
I think a lot of followers isn't for the public.
Collecting followers is for you, right, So what is your intention?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
You know, do you want what is the intention?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
My intention is just to get information out and attract
people that.
Speaker 1 (50:48):
Feel your heart. Your heart is pure. I mean anytime
I'm in your energy, I feel the healing, you know.
So it's just and we need more people like you
in the world. And I'm just so grateful that you
came on today because I know there are a lot
of people who need to hear these messages out there.
So we can find you at Greenphoenixhealing dot com. HM okay,
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and you're you're on social media too, like.
Speaker 2 (51:14):
Screen, you can find me at on uh.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
I love our conversations.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (51:21):
I love our conversations.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah. We we go into all different areas and aspects
and what the greatest thing is that we always come
back to the residents at the end.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
You know, you like the parting parting words like what
what do you think is the most important thing that
somebody can do right now to get themselves If if
someone's feeling disregulated or not in sync, what's the easiest
best thing to do.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
I would think to find what's what's really important in
your life, and it's not something that you can find digitally.
You know, it's something natural that you can really connect
with and find that and really learn how to resonate
with it. I think we have so many things our life.
I think our greatest aspect that we can have is
to really truly resonate with something that That's how we
build relationships, that's how we grow, that's how we evolve,
(52:08):
that's how we become and activate the spiritual beings that
we are within and implement this. So, once you learn
how to resonate with yourself, you ain't worried about everybody
else's frequency. Everybody else is you know what they're doing.
You focused on your own frequency and your own value
to that home hall, that harmonic residence that you created.
Speaker 1 (52:31):
So I'm going to ask you to link your energy's
mind for just a minute while I pull a card
from the deck for our show tonight and to leave
our people with. So just breathe in what messagees spirit
have for us tonight with our beautiful show. Let me
to pick this card. Care Cups. Love the care Cups
(52:57):
is the biggest card in the deck for me. King
Cups is about, you know, the cup running over love
coming into our life. Cups is all about our emotion
and the King. So I'm going to say this is you, Phoenix,
Ginger Cups tonight. Thank you, thank you so much for
coming on. I love you. I hope I get to
see you soon. And good wishes to your puppy. I
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hope he's got a peace full time of things as
much as he can.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
I will be here Monday, yes, and you can find
him on Green Phoenix Healing dot com and also social media.
And I will be here next Monday night, seven o'clock.
And we are going to have you on again because
you're a great guest.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
Yeah, we can talk about animal communication. That'd be great.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I would love that. Maybe we can bring a couple
of animals into the studio.
Speaker 2 (53:42):
That'll be cool.
Speaker 1 (53:44):
Definitely love it all right, Thanks so much.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
Phoenix, Thank you well.
Speaker 1 (53:50):
Thanks everybody. Have a great night. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
The No.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
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