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June 14, 2024 • 31 mins
Join Taf in this electrifying episode of The Ch@tRoom as he sits down with Zimbabwean rap artist King Pharoar. Known for his powerful lyrics and dynamic stage presence, King Pharoar has been making waves in the music industry with his unique blend of traditional Zimbabwean sounds and contemporary hip-hop beats. In this candid interview, Taf delves into King Pharoar's musical journey, exploring the challenges and triumphs that have shaped his career. They discuss his inspirations, the cultural significance of his music, and his vision for the future of Zimbabwean hip-hop. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to his music, this episode offers a deep dive into the mind of one of Zimbabwe's most compelling artists. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that transcends borders and celebrates the power of music.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's Upping Everybody? My name is Teff Back like I
never left and Welcome to.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Another episode of the Chatroom. And today.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
One of my favorite songs to play in the card
the artist is with us today.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
King Pharaoh, how are you doing?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
But I'm doing good man moss up chat Room.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Thanks for having me, man, no problem.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you for actually coming on, especially such a last
note right now it is twelve fifty six am Rapper hours.
I feel like I'm part of the cool kids.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You know kids, So I'm so those who't know I've known.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Look, I'm struggling with calling your your stage name and
your real name, but you guys know what I'm talking about.
The only two of us on this episode a little
over three years. Yes, we met at a birth they
then lunch. It was what am I saying? But it
was a favor of lunch, wasn't it. Yeah, yeah, now

(01:31):
tell the story.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
I think you tell it better. Man, I'm gonna help
you out in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
You're just too cool for the story. That's what it is.
But it's so we met at this lunch and.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It was by it's this very popular sports that come
in code Sam Sam Ladies Village, and no one knew anyone,
like the only we all knew the person who was leaving,
but we didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Know each other.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
And obviously, if anyone, if anyone who has made me
knows that, if I'm living an awkward in the situation
like that, I always try to make sure that everyone
is on the same page.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
And that's pretty much what I did. And you want
to take over from my hair.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, this guy, you know what I'm saying. We were
having a good time. Everybody was just vibing out. This
guy stood up with all the confidence in the world,
and he's like, anybody got a Pso.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I did not stand Okay, go on, I'm like, yeah
I got one.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
You're like, you got fever. I'm like, who doesn't. You're
like ship, I see you tomorrow. I'm like, fuck, you mean, what.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Do I even have to make an exit end of
the story?

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, man, how do you even know how? I was
to tell you? Man, like, the craziest ship was chat Ru.
I kid you not.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
This guy pulled out to my house the next around
that time and You're like, you're you're Clay Fever.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I'm like, I didn't know this man, I didn't know
him just to my game. I'm here. I'm like, oh, ship,
I where.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
I'm a man of my word? All right? So King Pharaoh,
tell us about that name? Why the name?

Speaker 5 (03:22):
That name originated from the time when I was in
a music group and the group was called Young Black Kids.
So initially the idea was to have names along the
lines of young Black and then just whatever else. So
I'm like, okay, my name should represent something that means

(03:43):
a lot to me. So the king part that resonated
with because my totem toung schumber, you know, and uh,
that was probably just the easiest thing to do. That's
why I called myself King. And now the Pharaoh part
came from my favorite artist first album. Yeah, I must
have been his first album. Travis Scott is called ol Pharaoh.

(04:05):
So now I'm like, okay, young black King Pharaoh. I'm like, yo,
that that that's kind of you know, long as long
as ship.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Cool, I'm sure the King Pharaoh and I searched it up.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
I saw like maybe like six people called King Pharaoh,
and I'm like, I ain't changed my name for ship.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
I'm in the same way it looks.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
So now the pharaoh part has a roar at the
end because it's also aligns with my tourtem uh.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
You know. Oh, that's actually that makes sense. That makes
I like, that's like a whole history.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
I like that. I like I like for those who
don't know, it's called phair rale, so like roll p
h a H or a r. So that's pretty tough.
That's tough. I'm fanboy, but that's the two I know.
All right. So your first song you said, only rapping

(05:06):
last year?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, probably for the first release of wats your Tone,
which is also my current favorite song, my make a
song playing calm? Tell us about that song? What how
did you come about with beat come from and everything?
Why is it about? Because I know the tone the
title of the songs, Well, watch your tone and on
the surface, it just looks like you're talking about you

(05:30):
just you know, the standard cocky rapper, don't watch how
you speak to me, what world what? But then you
listen to the real lyrics, it's like something different. So
you want to go into that a little bit with us.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, So I think it started off like probably in
the morning, like maybe at like nine am. You know,
we were rapping out the boys. You know what I'm
saying that wake and bake. You know what I'm saying
with a look back.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Oh, I don't know what you're saying, but you know
what I'm saying, waking.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
So it's a little vibing.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
And one of my boys looked up, like just on Instagram,
you know that they just post the news and stuff,
and we saw the news about pop Smoke.

Speaker 4 (06:14):
And immediately the whole room just went quiet.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
We just what the fuck? And Nigga searched it up
man and like you know, IRF pop Smoke and all.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
But that kind of just set the mood of anger
because we're like, why the fuck with you know, why
you got to kill him? Like you know what I'm saying,
Like he's doing this thing. Hear nobody Maybe he did
I don't even Yeah, so now you know, we hit
up the producer all like yo, we need something to

(06:44):
bleed too. And this dude's like, you know, I ain't
got nothing like that. I'm like, okay, ship, what you got?

Speaker 4 (06:49):
He gave me some raps. I'm like, okay, cool, first beat.
You know, we got it all.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
And this a good time listening to the story. It's
a whole in my head.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Yeah, And he's like, you know, here you go. And
I'm listening to the beat on bothering my head. I'm
trying to wrap to it. I'm like, man, this is whack.
I can't I can't even hold you. Man, this ship
this is asked and and I'm like, yo, old, give
me some real ship. Then the watcher told me came

(07:23):
up and I'm like, yo, this motherfucker is.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Different storytelling right now. I must say that.

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I'm like, I'm like, yo, we gotta do something with
this beat. And immediately I just kind of got in
the zone. And so the verse was mainly like a
message in my own way to pop up and maybe
you could hear me heave. And I don't even know,
but I think it starts off as a baby. I'm
fresh at the zoo and uh like that, you know, baby,

(07:57):
you know what we do.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
This?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
You know that The whole part was just like mainly
for the dogs back on. It's like, honestly the zoo
to me was because that's literally how they.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Don't you call it my country? The zoo?

Speaker 4 (08:20):
You have to tell talking about you know, how many times?

Speaker 5 (08:23):
How many times do you have somebody an American walk
up to you and be like, man, you know where
you're from? You and I'm talking about the ones maybe
on that right and where you from and they're like,
You're like, They're.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Like, how the fun did you get here?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
And it's like you made me at the airport? What
do you mean? How did I get you?

Speaker 5 (08:49):
You know what I'm saying, and like that's how That's
how I think it is, And I'm like, bro, I'm
just trying to show them that now that the same case.
I just put that there as like a little kind
of fucking message said a little kind of.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yeah, And as the.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Rest of the song progressive, the part where I'm like
wake up the pop in the morning about.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Pick up.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
You know, and literally at that time, that was the
time when I would listen to pop smoke religiously like
I would be in the morning to year.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
You're telling me about listening to pol Smoke.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Was really tough.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Ye, he's dead. He's dead. It's like I knew him.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
But it was just it was emotional.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
It was.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, I say, I know, I know, I'm probably gonna
get crucified for saying this in the comments, but Boss Smokes.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Did art me more than Kobe's.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Actually, I don't know why, but I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yes, I agree our age. Bro.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Look at them like, Bro, that could have been my dog.
I could have been.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Any of us. I mean, I'm not technically no internal chain,
but but that could have been any of us.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
You know what I'm saying exactly?

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, all right, So obviously last year you started rapping
like you and solo last year, Yes, and you released
to watch your tone and it's got like a lot
of attention when you first dropped it.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Yeah, but as soon as you've dropped it.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Also, literally COVID didn't hit, So you didn't get to performed,
you didn't get a chance to even go on radio.
You didn't get a chance to do anything that I
would you say, COVID affected your career.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Let's look at the start. Obviously, the negative that it
has is obvious.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Negatives, but also there are I'm pretty sure you managed
to derive some positives out of the whole quarantine and
et cetera.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
Yeah, I think the biggest negative for me was like
lack of inspiration because I couldn't go outside. Like I'd
be outside and I'm just freestyle and I'm singing and
I'm just having a good time. You know, the sun's
hitting me. Needs you say everything is right.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Forto synthesis, But okay.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
How are you old?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
You man?

Speaker 4 (11:23):
I love nature.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
And like being outside to me is like my biggest
social creativity because it reminds me that the world can
be mine, you know what I mean. And yeah, lack
of that just kind of slowed down my progress. Not
being able to go to the studio because my city
is on lockdown. That was hard because I kind of lost.
I had a disconnect with my producer and at some

(11:47):
point I I'm looking for more and more work more producers.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh well, is there like a rule against it? Now?
You don't go to another bubble? Isn't there like a
rule like a producer? Nah?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, it's only a role where the producer is exclusively yours.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
He's like, so it's like this paperwork exactly because like.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I still I still pay this guy and whatever he's doing,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, but like I'm out
of paying the full prices ship man that nigga.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
So now I think I just kind of the positives
outcome where I had to find ways to keep my
creativity going. So I started like watching a lot. I
think I told her about this one time. I was
watching like hip Hop Evolution doing my research into like
rap culture, and like that helped me focus my creativity
because it made me realize where I'm trying my inspiration from,

(13:02):
you know right, also kind of maybe star looking into myself,
like more lyrics.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
More bars, you know what I'm saying. And yeah, that's
that's That's just kind of how I went.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
All right, you know what, I.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Really having a good time the interviews, Like five minutes
in the storytelling is killing me.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
The vibes and Mac, I'm just thank you for coming on.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Enjoyment the most fun outside the streets. This is the
most one I've had on the interview, but my previous listeners, No,
it's I'm just saying, but all right, so I want
to talk. There's one song I want to talk about
specifically with you, and that is the Pharaoh Feel Yeah yeah,

(13:45):
oh yeah, because of all your songs, I felt like
and because I also know the story behind it, because.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
I was you know, we went we went through it,
well you did, but I was just so I want
to listen that. Let's look about Pharaohville.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
With Pharaohville, it was more of me trying to express
my pain because growing up I never really had anyone
explained to me how to express my pain.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And with that, when you say the pain, when you
say pain, what actually had? What pain? Are you describing?
What type of pain?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
In this case, it's heartbreak? Yeah, you know she did
me dirty man.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
It was crazy.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I haven't remember calling you.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
I think it was this one this one time, this
guy was at home, he's come from from practice, track practice,
he was tied a ship.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
I ca him like bro, Bro.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I didn't shower at you like midnight Bro. Because that
phocal was just long, long, one goal.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
And I think that song to me was very importan
because that's a sign of my artistry where I actually
am able to express my pain and a lot of
rappers can't do that for some reason, and I don't
think that should be the case, because if you don't

(15:16):
express your pain, you don't heal.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
And I would not.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Like that. You don't express your pain, you will not heal.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I like that, like it just it just won't happen
because you'll beholding that that anger, frustration, sadness, whatever, it
is so long that it manifits into something else.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
But if you express it, you get the time to heal,
you know.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I like that, which didn't go to my next question.
That incident happened in two thousand and eighteen. Yeah, look
at me putting your business out there. Someone is out
there tracking who was he dealing with?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
The two thousand ages?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
But anyway, my Instagram, Instagram and what not. But the
instant happened twenty eighteen. This song dropped twenty end of
twenty twenty or early twenty earlier this year, was twenty
twenty earlier this year.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
It was early this year, early this year.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Twenty twenty one exactly. And that's been three years. Mister Gibbs,
you want to tell us about that? Can you actually say?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
So?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
What are you telling me that the healing. You spoke
about how the expressing yourself helps of the healing. Yeah,
so did this song help with your healing process?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
It did?

Speaker 5 (16:37):
It helped a lot, because to this day, I still
listen to that song and I remember, like all the
pain that I felt that I could hear my voice
in that song. I can remember feeling it, and immediately
after it's done, I have this feeling of relief that Yo,
I made it up, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I wouldn't have been able to make it out without
having made that song.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's actually deep, man, so profound. I like that. I
like that, I like that speaking to my soul.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Okay, let's actually go out of it for out of
you usually just celebrated your your one year anniversary with
the perfect gradulations, refreshing to see you know, especially sound
in this particular industry and being a stable and be
faithful in their relationship. I'm saying this confidently because I

(17:36):
know you personally.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
On these you know.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
But yeah, so now with that you have your relationship,
you're you're trying to chase a degree.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
You you're you're.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Actually into your in school full time. You have a job,
and you have a music career. So let's talk about that.
How what what's the priority, how do the priorities work,
what's the what's the order in terms of authorities, What
gets the most attention and all of that.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
I think I think my girl gets the most attention,
if I'm being honest, because she's kind of the backbone
to my whole operation. Because there's a lot of there's
a lot of times where I'm telling you I could
not hold it down as like a nigga, Like I
really couldn't hold it down, and.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
She came up and you know, she what do you
mean you couldn't hold it down?

Speaker 4 (18:29):
I mean, like a lot of shit would just be
going on, and sometimes it just be too much for me.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And because also like you'd be like overwhelmed exactly.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
And because I, you know, generally don't talk about things,
she will force it out of me and and make
me talk about it.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
That's when I started learning.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
The plays my role basically just good, you have a problem,
someone actually needs to of course carry on.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, And it's kind of went down like that, and.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
I feel like being in a relationship in the game,
it's very people don't really do it that much because
you know, you start getting all this attention and whatnot.
But I feel like that helps keep you grounded because
you are somebody who's if you if your person's really
like real, you are somebody who's gonna write for you,
somebody who's gonna support you, somebody who's gonna help you
with you down. You're gonna have all these things and

(19:27):
still be able to focus on what you're supposed to
focus on.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
Like that.

Speaker 5 (19:32):
I like that, Yeah, because now because if you think
about it, if your head is up in the skirts,
then you ain't gonna get none done.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
If your head is up in the skirts. These rappers
are bit with your remarks.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
The head is not in goods. So obviously here from
zim we you're in Canada.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, we have aliens in a foreign land. Yeah, So
what did you say has been What would you say
is what is it like being a rapper? Being a
rapper from Zimbabwe coming into like a foreign land that's
not particularly known for rap.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
It's it's hard, I would say, because a lot of
people will You'll tell them that you released the song,
and a lot of them will automatically put you in
that like this SoundCloud rappers were dope, but you know
those other SoundCloud rappers or automatically put you in that
category until they actually hear your ship and they're like,

(20:46):
you know what I'm saying, That's kind of what happened
with me, because to be honest, okay, my first release
was actually legend it's on SoundCloud and wait, was up.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
The tribute to Covie?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah, the tribute to you.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I feel like, hey, guys, for those who don't know,
I have listened to that song, I have on my
phone because say that again.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Hear that.

Speaker 5 (21:20):
He was like the first guy said and with that
song telling people to go listen to it because it
was the SoundCloud. People were like, okay, cool, let me
try to give it a shot. And then people who
know from Zimbabwe would be like, it's probably not that

(21:40):
good because you know who wraps from Simbabwe. You know
what I'm saying, because they don't know that Zimbabwe's actually
got a lot of talent. Now with that difficulty came
the ambition and the drive to actually put out good
music so that when they didn't actually do press play
or hear it being played, they go ask about me,
and they've been asking about.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
They've did tell them. I like that. I like that.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
I like that okay, so with you also, I want
to talk about one more thing before we start to talk,
before we get into your new project.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Can you see the song can you see No?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
That came like not too long after watch your Tongue
and took a completely opposite direction, Like it was almost
like one minute you were in Dubai where the next
miniature and managed six in Toronto.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's how he the switch was. So can you talents?
What can you see it is about?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And what made you take that huge turn especially for
it following what's your tongue?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
What your turn?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Was?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Made around the time when I was still single, and
at that time I had really thought about being in
a relationship. But I then came across my girl and
I was like I want this girl, like like this
I want, I want man, it was just like one

(23:18):
of those things. But I just I saw her and
I'm like, I need this girl in my life.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
And you saw her before you spoke to you like
I need this girl in my life.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Okay, let me tell you how we met. Then you.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I was like you ain't gone down, you know.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
So at University of Manitoba, I was like kind of
getting a bit of traction with like my music because
people just kept sharing it and sharing it. And now
one of my boys friends, this girl called Mary. She
was like, yo, I really fuck with your music. If
you ever done to make a song, I'm looking less
I can do it.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
I'm like cool.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Then we set that up and she actually ends up
making a song with one of my other boys, but
they did at my house. So now, because at the
house was the whole group, like the four of us,
she was like, can I bring a friend so I
don't feel uncomfortable around you know a bunch of niggas,
And you know, I'm like, you know, it's cool, Like
you know, you know, you got to feel comfortable when
you sing. Then she brings you know, my girl, and

(24:21):
I see her and you hold you I'll tell you
the real story. When she walked in, I was in
the bathroom, right and she looks at me. She's like,
why you're in a row and I look at her.
I'm like, why you're my house?

Speaker 4 (24:37):
And she like two ships.

Speaker 6 (24:40):
Literally when we had that, you know, this this is
clearly not would have turned out totally different trending on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
You and from that short back and forth, I'm like, okay,
this is she's she's cute. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
She's like she she's very outspoken and open, and I'm like, cool,
I want this girl, right. So now, eventually the time
goes on marriage recording, and now everyone else is sitting aside.
So I'm sitting next to her and we're just making
conversation and time goes by, maybe like say two weeks.
We see each other here and there, and I asked

(25:30):
her out eventually and she said.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
No, yeah, and she says no, okay, she said no.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
She said no, man, she was like, no, fucking shit,
what do you think you is?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (25:46):
I'm like where? And then I went to the studio
that weekend. I think this happened on like maybe a Wednesday.
The weekend.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
I went to the studio and I told my producer
about what happened, and he's like, yo, I've been cooking
up this beat. I think it's it will be good
for you to, like, you know, talk your ship. And
I'm like, cool, yeah, definitely I can do that. He
plays the beat and I'm like, this is very out
of my genre and he's like yeah, but you know
you're also a singer. And I'm like yeah loo ky yeah,

(26:16):
okay yeah, and then and then I'm like cool, I
start writing on the beat, and eventually the song just
became me telling her that you know, you may have
said no, but trust me, I'm not one for you.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
So let me get this straight. Okay, mister Gabbs. So
let's girl say no. And then you were like, let
me go make a song, just say yes.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Yeah. Oh you're simple, gentleman. Simply works. Simply works. If
you're just out the new project.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You have a new song recently just dropped switch it?
What what are we to expect from switch it?

Speaker 3 (27:11):
To? What do you? How was the whole making it?

Speaker 4 (27:14):
And yeah, uh, making it was very paradic. It was spontaneous.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Look, I'm gonna repple with an education. Yes, sir, that's
that college vocal right there.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
You know what I'm saying. You gotta drop it on
one side, just a little bit, little some song.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Okay, you shouldn't because now look but I haven't taken
this interview pub Sorry, sorry, chat True, it was like I.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Went to the studio and this has been after I
hadn't I hadn't recorded since Pharaphelle, right, and I'm like
I had been in a rush. I wasn't inspired, I
wasn't writing, so I'm like, you know what, maybe it's
the environment. I'm good to the studio. I went to
the studio and I'm like to my producer, I'm like, yo, man,
I'm in a mood to prove a point.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
He's like, what do you mean? And I'm like, I
released watching tone. I only had one verse.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
People some people are telling me, you know, to put
another verse out, and some people who actually questioning me
being a rapper, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Like, you then fucked up, Like you fucked up.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
So now.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
He puts on the switched beat and I'm like, damn,
this beat is hard, and I'm like, I gotta come
up with something. So the way I work, it's like
hook versus you know whatever. So when the hook came together,
I'm like, yo, I'm about the ship on these motherfuckers.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
So what you can that?

Speaker 4 (28:49):
What you can expecting that song. It's a whole lot
of bars, a whole lot of a whole lot.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Of me proving my point, a whole lot of point, improving,
making my stamp my industry.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Yes, sir, footprints and ship more than more.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Big, thank you for putting showing up to the show,
and especially especially at the last minute and fit me
into your schedule.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's one thirty am.

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Yeah I'm done.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
I'm about the tempo.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
But clearly you seem to be like just start getting
started and everything you sejuice, he's got the standards man's
having any final remarks something you want people to know
A message.

Speaker 5 (29:43):
I just want to say that anybody and them who
feels like they have the talent to create art, do
it and don't let anybody question your art because you
got to teach your art like your baby.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
You're never a little but you talked about your baby.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
No you you you suck them in the mouth. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
There are some babies.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
But but if you got an ugly baby, who you
going to talk about?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
You is?

Speaker 4 (30:11):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (30:11):
So you can treat that like your baby and really
nurture it and be willing to allow it to grow,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (30:18):
So always, you know, be control of what you got
to make and protect that ship with your life.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Very inspiring words to the younger creators out there. I'm
gonna use supporters and talent. I believe we have a
lot a lot of talent in them, bro, it's just
a share. Yeah, money is a factor, but we have
a lot of talent. We have a lot of talent. Again,
thank you for joining us.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
And as usual chat room family, thank you for tuning
in obviously again next week please make sure you follow
the chat room Twitter and mister ak a King Berrol
looking forward to the new song.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I hope it is as good as the rest. I
don't doubt it. And have a good evening chair.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Thank you, cheers, m
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