Where Feedback Meets Feeling: A conversation with Elson

On this episode of Sounds from the Dockside, host Dave sits down with the up-and-coming band Elson for an insightful and inspiring conversation. From their roots in Grimsby to their bold aspirations in the music industry, Elson opens up about their journey, the power of community support, and the creative spark that fuels their sound.

🚀 Discover how their local music scene shaped their artistry, the meaning behind their unique band name, and their vision for a future that goes beyond the music. Elson dives deep into their collaborative process and the authentic energy they bring to every project.If you're passionate about music, creative growth, and chasing your dreams, this episode is for you!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, welcome episode nine of the Sounds from the Dark

(00:03):
Side podcast with me a host Dave. Today we've got Elson.
How's it going boys?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah. So, as you know, we like
to kicking off by getting said, no, a bit about yourself.
So who are where do you come from?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, well, I'm Kimball or we've got to oen.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
So he gets confusing, So I say that, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
From Grimsby Town, grew up here on the Yarborough. And
then yeah, I suppose I am. Well, I'm the I'm
the vocalist and guitarist of Elson. That's what I do there.
But then when I'm not doing that, I work. I'm
self employed as like a freelance creative, so I do
like I'll just finish a graphic design contract. Yeah, and

(00:51):
I would do a lot of work with Low locally.
So that's like whether that's putting on our own events
or working creatively with other people. So yeah, just always creative.
It feels like, yeah, always doing something, Yeah, always doing
something creative about it and very just I like being
my own boss basically.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
For yeah, it's good.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, that's the outside of music.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I suppose chairs o en So what what's the I'm Karen.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, this is basically the main thing for me, just
music really when I'm you know, at home whatever this is.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah. Where are you from? He born and bred from Grimsby?
Yeah yeah, I'm from Grimsby. Yeah yeah, yeah. Where did
you knock about? Where do you go to school?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
We went to school together to McAuley yeah because all right,
yeah yeah yeah yeah West Marsh. Yes, that was Bluard,
that wasn't it. Yeah, that went the same second.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
He was following me around, so I.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Didn't know him in primary though. It was only until yeah,
seven one.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, pretty much I decided to even Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Don't even know why, just sort of fell in the
same group.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
So what was it like Forbath grown up in Grimsby?
What was your childhood like? Upbringing? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, like we had fairly like gooniesish childhood really yeah right, yeah,
I hid stuff like I was, like I grew up.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
It's now where the freshly Green is?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I remember?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Like we would well, we had like we were sort
of lived. It was by the eight foot we called
it because it was just like a thing, and then
it went onto the out the back is what we
called it, and there was a big pylon and we
had a next doll neighbors and we'd basically just always
shout over their fence like you're coming out, like that's
what we do. And then we go through the railings
and it used to be like a big football pitch.
There was football goals on it. And then there was

(02:39):
like all these derelict houses that we used to just
play in us to play guns and shit and like whatever.
And then yeah, that was through that, and then that
allest became. The growing up was like, yeah, just playing
out all the time on the out the back.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
So you had sort of the standard sort of feral Grimsby.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah yeah, like just playing.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Till the streetlights. Yeah yeah, literally kind of thing, shout
down the road.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah yeah, I get you, you know you're out.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
That was.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I remember that, Yeah, or just playing always like well
then yeah, like always being on a bike or a
scooter or actually all my friends there was there's a
time ring up where like I think I think it
was raisor scooters, like they were massive and I really
wanted one. They all had one and I really wanted one,
and then I didn't ever get one.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
But like it was fine. I'm not being like we've
got a scooter.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
But like there was this black, no not it was
blue and orange, gorgeous scooter and then I never got it,
but they my two friends had it, had like one
of these proper scooters and they were like, oh, you
can just borrow my old one. There was this old
ship like scooter. Just remember going down the streets. They're
bezing off and like the.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, the good thing is there's still a thing. Yeah,
if it's still you could just get.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
One perfect like Ellen, Now, well on Saturday, you're going
to rock up on your sko.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Can't wait. So do you do you think that's sort
of fairal sort of childhood growing up in Grimsby, the
standard sort of upbringing on the estate and the empty
and that. Do you think that's shape your creative outlock?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think in a way or like it's interesting.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Really there's a perspective today, yeah yeah, yeah, just that
freedom of yeah, being able to be yourself out there.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah yeah, it's it's all ingrained.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think or even like well even in
a lot of like the I mean, it's like trying
to encaptuate the feel of grims being a song sorry
or something that we haven't really tried that yet, but
sort of the feelings that come with that, or sort
of being in a smaller town where like you feel
like you have to be I don't know, a bit

(04:46):
louder to kind of be making yeah, make noise or
like sort of well, yeah, it is interesting, Like it's
like we haven't really looked into that, I suppose, or
like I'm just thinking how of the theme of like
that's sort of growing up, but I guess it does
the way you kind of there's a sort of bleeding
into that anyway, naturally.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, the way you've set yourself for.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Like it never or some of the ants that we
put in you know, is sort of yeah, it's all
very subconscious, like it doesn't really.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, sort of working class kind of upbringing is synonymous
with guitar music as well. It's been ingrained generationally, hasn't it.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, Yeah definitely.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So have you got any memories of Grimsby from growing
up that kind of stand out for you sort of
personally and musically?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Well, I mean yeah, I suppose I keep mentioning it
out the back, but like there was a there was like, yeah,
there was a night where we'd we had gone through
there quite late, and it used to feel quite marshy
and like with the with the or the run down houses,
like they were literally just like old boarded up houses whatever,

(05:56):
and we were just playing there and then all of
a sudden, this group of lads like was just like
we're going to chase these kids, and like we were
like I remember it was me and my brother and
two of our other two other friends at that time,
and he lived like through the gap in the railing
sort of thing. We're just like we're just out that
she's playing. And then all of a sudden, like I'm
sure they pelting rocks and and we were just like

(06:18):
running quickly.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Then my brother, my brother.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
And his mate had the genius idea because it was
all like marsh grasslands, like instead of running, they just
sort of like I think they've been playing too much
cod but they like they like nestled themselves in the
grass and I hid and then me and the other
one were just like running away. Like so that's like
a very ingrained memory, just like I don't know why,
but then yeah, just yeah, that's just a story that

(06:40):
sicks out, I suppose when you've asked that that's in.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
My mind when always just out of the back.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, just like.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Not even doing mad just liually playing like pretending to
be like FBI and.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Nothing mad Like it's just so ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
And then you're just getting like hounded by for the
kids and you're like ship and then next week you're
like they're asking if they can play with your guns
and stuff and you're like, yeah, of course I can
remember that quite vivid kids, right, yeah, like yeah, the
people who were then like well then you're playing singers
and w's with them on the field and stuff. It's
like a very I just remember that quite when you're young,
you're not really asked are you just kind of get
on with it. I don't know what there's like always

(07:20):
seems to be tension and there's not and.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Just about yeah what's your what's your what about UK?
Well yeah it didn't have to be like that.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's just what that's where in my mind.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, I was, I was, I was a kid with
the rock.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Well just memory from Grimsby, Yeah, just something that stands
out here.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, well, you know, see a lot of growing up,
Like as a kid, I spent a lot of time
sort of on weekends.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I used to go my dad a lot would go
like Cleve Forbes things like that. But yeah, it's so
a lot of times just spend at the arcades and
things like that on Saturdays, Yeah, going out for food
and that.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, that's a lot of my childhood, you know, and
drag down the Sunday market and yeah, I just get
dragged down the Sunday by my mom honestly, like in
the winter and that as well, and getting my toes
just that cold, yeah, so outside some chippy like rain,
you know. So was there anything that happened locally growing

(08:21):
up that kind of influence into music or was it
just for listening to music that that got you into
it mainly?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Just like yeah, just on my own back really like
getting into music about well, as I say, a lot
of times when my daddy used to play music in
the car, a lot of killers and things like that.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So just yeah, and then you.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
Get to about thirteen fourteen, and that's all you really
want to do is listen to music and you know, yeah,
getting a little bands and things like that.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And is that when you got into playing music as well?

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, IVE always been playing It feels
like as soon as I got into music, that's all
I wanted to do was play with the idea.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, yeah, what about you knowing.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
What mine was like? I suppose yeah. I feel like
I feel like quite.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Late getting into like or at least learning to play
music or seeing that as a as a thing. But
there was a point or I feel like we're in
the same as secondary school. We were probably in the
same or I actually do. I think like there was
a guitar lesson or something, and I think it was
like learning I can't remember. I just remember it was
an a chord and it was really hard and it
was like, come in and learn this, and then you're

(09:26):
like and that was like my first time even picking
up a guitar or whatever, and I was like, got
really frustrated because when you know, when you learn, so
you like I was like, and I was like, this
is ship. I'm never going to do that, Like this
is terrible. And then a few years later I think
that must have been year right whatever. And then about
fourteenth or fifteenth first say, my nanny brought me my
first like acoustic guitar and I was like, I'm going

(09:46):
to make the effort now to just learn it. And
it was literally just playing blank one eighty two songs
until like there's videos and me just like playing the
watsmage again and it's just like so like that's just
and you you would send videos of you playing like
first date and stuff, just like you hook.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
From the outset as well. When you got that guitar,
was you just addicted to it?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah it was.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
To be fair, I used to have really shoddy technique.
So I used to have a really stiff wrist like
permuting and stuff. I used to use my whole forearm
rather than just like the wrist, and I was like,
I used to get really bad cramp and I was like,
this is how you play guitar. But no, yeah, I
suppose as well, like you said about the Killers, like
one of the main sort of like things I suppose

(10:32):
my band, who I sort of grew like through my dad,
was like the Script, like like, yeah, the first album
was like ingrained in my sort of musical.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's interesting. I don't think i've ever heard anyone.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, the script, like I just used to be like
like obviously the manic cappy moves and stuff, and then
you sort of explore more of their cattle.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
But I remember that was the first like band. I
suppose it's.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Quite easily listening. Yeah as well, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I thought, oh that's quite cool. Then you've got
a Yeah that's cool.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Not that, but you haven't got there's no stigma attached
to me. You'll listen to it because you legitimately like
you've got no influence on no one's judging it.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I love the script, well, I don't love some of
the new you know, I like the first more albums
I go back to quite a bit even now still
sort of I suppose musically, I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Like, you haven't down the posters yet, still on the wall. Yeah,
we're going to a script come from Saturday. Then well
this is it. That wasn't a request. I'll do all
right about So when when you started picking up music

(11:41):
and picking up did you both start playing guitar? Was
that your first instrument or did you get straightened on
the bass?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
What was your well?

Speaker 1 (11:48):
I started.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I actually bought a ukulele because I thought it was
a full sized guitar.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Years old that looks.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Good and it's like a fiver. Yeah, I found got
that game ukulele. Yeah, yeah, so I moved from that. Yeah,
I think I went straight to bass after that, already
given up into the four strings.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah. Yeah, it's just a big, bigger iteration of the yeah,
get me that, but slightly bigger. But yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Then I actually fell onto guitar for a few years
because it was playing all like punk bands and things
like so it's easy just yeah, that's just fell in
love with playing like really shitty music for a bit
on guitar.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yeah, fell back into it power clouds, yeah, power chords
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
But well, it's funny because I think at the point
or like my first like the Internet, I want to say,
was drums, and that's what I learned first, and I
was like I want to be a drummer, Like that's
what I'm going to do. And then we had played
in bands together throughout like college and stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
On and off.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
It was sort of yeah, it was pointless, not.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Pointless, it's not the right word, but like if he
was on guitar, then, like, I don't know why I
wanted to be a drummer, but just.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
You you were always like I was always just on
the drum.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
You were quite good at like switching between instruments, whereas
like I felt like I was centered on guitar, right, yeah,
like a couple of guitar.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Yeah right, yeah, I'm probably I always thought the idea
of things I was cool, but being a drum was cooler.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, yeah, like or.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
So then it's easier because we've got like them, got
two members, you know, I mean, if we're both on guitar, like, yeah,
it was just sort of felt.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
To do something on it.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, It's just that the love of the music as
well in it, like being able to make sound on
so many different things. My house is full of all
yeah right, yeah, I'm a master of none of it,
but I can get a sound out of everything. You know.
That's sort of how we all work for it is.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
It is very versatile thing because because obviously we do
a lot of things from the studio like home studio.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, we've all just.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Learned how to deal. Yeah, and just so we can
jump on like yeah, I've got an idea.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
The digital tools you've got nowadays as well, insane. You
can get an iPad and just start garage band. From
garage band. Have you seen these people who do like
timed fruit loops, producing sessions where they're like making songs
on fruit You've seen live stream. It makes me feel sick.

(14:23):
But what talent in himself? You you guys got together
the band when you was at UNI together? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (14:30):
No? No, because well yeah, but you were you still
you would have been. So I went to Union year
earlier than these guys. So yeah, like we went separate units. Yeah,
we'd done what we had, We've done all all the
other educations together. And we and then literally and he
was like to go all separate ways of it. We

(14:50):
kept in touch me and you kept in touch. Used
to come around and yeah, and I would go over
to Leeds a lot because I was like or I
was in my last year.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I think I went to Lincoln, so I was like
literally away. But yeah, then I was like I remember one.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, there was like a like it was like I
had gone to Leeds for the day with some of
my UNI mates and then I was about to get
the train home and I just was.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Like, oh, KP's in Leeds.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I'll literally message him and just and I was like, oh, guys,
I think if he gets back, I'll just stay here.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, night, I'll go and see KP.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Because I'm only I'm in Leeds now, I'm not going
to come off again probably for a while. And I
remember you just being like, I've got a chest infection,
but come and I was like, I was like, okay,
remember I got the boss to him in Lee, He's like,
got off the wrong stuff. I had to walk like
twenty minutes to your house whatever, because it's quite wasted.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
And yeah, we were in the center or I was,
but then you didn't know the train system at the time.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, I could have just got a two minute training apparently.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
But but then that week or no, it ended up
being one night and it was two nights, say the
whole week from Monday to Friday or whatever it was.
And then throughout that time we just started or you
would like you was like, well, were making Yeah, the.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Intead went to college together when he left to Franklin. Yeah,
the intenagus, the drummer is not yeah, he's.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Out back.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
An excuse, he's yeah, me and him we carried on
making music for a bit, but we didn't really have
much an identity to that. We just kind of was
just throwing ideas all the time.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Just tracking stuff and play about. Yeah, just like it
was getting into music.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
And as we'd get into music, would you know, get
better and you know what you think is better. And
then obviously you heard a couple of demos.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Well yeah, you just pulled up a demo, didn't you,
And more over that week and then or a few
or whatever, I remember obviously one and then we just
sort of ye stayed up most nights working on likely.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
It was yeah, like we love.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Workshopping lyrics and like we get quite we're trying and
get in each of his heads, like trying to dand what. Yeah,
but yeah, I just remember that we really I think
that was like that started was collaborating again on it.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That was yeah, that was like and then from that
point to you actually you know, starting to rehearse properly
as a band. How how long was that?

Speaker 3 (17:08):
That must have been?

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Well that was what we're talking there is like June July.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, do you like by septemberge back, Yeah, we were
like bing rehears.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, we went we went straight to and was like
I think he would would you do? I think he
would project like or we just was like he's the
drummer that likes this ship drummers.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
We knew like we do we.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Want to him, but also you know, he's a great
music and everything and then yeah, then we were we
must have booked into Corner Zone like high September or
something to just to.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
See just to prout about.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Going and start something or whatever.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Early renditions of like yeah, yeah, well the songs that
we still have.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, it wasn't too long. What your
influences as a band, would you say?

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Well, we're all like so yeah, I think that's yeah,
that's that's what we like about it.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Really, it's like, obviously you go for your KP.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Well yeah, I'm sort of just like into like bands
like The Cure, I love David Bowie, things like that,
like that seventies sort of stuff. I got into a
pretty heavy anything like that really like yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, terrible at that.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
I get it for us to tell it's easy.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
It's not an easy question. Is it like your brain farts.
It's just like everything or like anything that comes upon you. Literally,
but it is.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Like massive into dance music, electronic music like Underworld and BICEP.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
He loves them, which is.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Good as a drummer, I suppose because you get locked
into rhythm, like it's very written. Yeah, but then yeah,
KP is a massive bow we had so what they
called what do you call Bowie fan?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
You don't call a good guy? Just put everybody and.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Then the Cure you love Blur and Blur or radio
When we like that, it's like.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Or like yeah, then I love the War on Drugs
like they're my favorite band. I really like like boy Genius,
like a lot of like have.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
You listened to The Smile Tommy Ork's new project? Yes,
I am.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I think I put the I think I've listened to
the album when it came out to the leader. I
was listening to like the singles and stuff and needed
the tiny desk, I think did they so? Yeah, like
one of our songs is heavily I think, not even
intentionally but subconsciously like inspired by radio ad Yeah yeah
and sort of or at least the vocal whenever that

(19:33):
came yeah yeah, but no, yeah, just like we're just
taking from anywhere. And then it's even like when you
just kind of well then yeah, I guess slow dive
and ride obviously, like with the Shoe, like Ben Stellar,
we've got massively into recently a Ben Stellar the call
there from the New York We saw them at.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
A spelling that be like bean and then yeah, you
said Stellar.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, they're like they like they're like post punk like
garage juge sort of thing, but they're so good. And
we saw him, yeah the Brudell in Leeds, like the
back in the November, and it's just so like they
were just just kind of I've seen him like in Manchester, yes,
like a few months before and they sold it. They

(20:23):
sold for like fifty people. But then there was played
a whold out show at the Brude now like six
months later.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
They were just sick.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
And we keep going back like yeah, but then there's
so many in their eyes, like we all look the
twins and like everywhere carries on and carried And I
think it's good that we all.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Have such a diverse palette.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I suppose because we're not like we're not precious to
any or we'll just try or we're always like how
can we make that poppier or how can we like
we just because I love like a lot of pop
music as well, like.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
The Spectrum, Like they're just super like it's into like
heavy music. Yeah, yeah as metal bands, Like who the
hell is that you're talking about?

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, it's just a massive mixing part. Honestly, there's no
right answer.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
The best best way they be boring if it was
all into the same stuff and it would show any
music when I yeah, right, yeah, really linear when you've
got an experiment, Yeah, I'm the same. I couldn't tell
you like I'm not into one genre, you know everything?
Do you know what I mean? And I think I
think Spotify has changed the way I listened to music
a lot as well, because growing up, I'd look forward

(21:32):
to an album coming out, right, get that physical albums, tootah.
Whereas now like I'll never listen to an album right,
I'm just it's just like, like, who who do I like?
At the minute? I like Nightmares on Max, So then
I'm like Nightmares on Max Radio and then churning out
everything that sounds similar radio great.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Loophole in it. But yeah, like that sounds so who's
doing something like that?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
You go?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I could just look.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
At it like right then algorithms great, Yeah, it's good.
Although I've got an eight year old daughter. She listens
to the lullabyes every night bed time, So like every
time that Spotify rap comes around my top five artists,
like some lullabye artist that I've never listened to, I'm
clocking up like eight nine hours a Lulla by Times Spotify.

(22:19):
That was like a thing, Yeah, weird ambience White Noise
Tonight soundtrack on because I was really yeah right, I
went deaf like two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
It's really bad infection and I stumbled upon the Spotify
is like just like just.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
White Noise to sleep. It was horrible drowning it out.
That's a whole genre on there. Now I get every
every day day list while.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
I get recommendation six tonight is therapy.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So then where did that come from? Because it it's
a really interesting name. M hmm.

Speaker 4 (22:57):
Yeah, yeah, well we just robbed it. It's from my guy.
It's my granddad's surname. Yeah, so obviously he inspired me
quite a lot growing up, like to be creative and
got me into bands like the Beatles and things like that. Yeah,
so obviously I don't even know when I thought of
naming it, but I thought that'd be quite a nice
thing to do for him, you know, since he's so

(23:17):
into it. You know, it's just and it sounds great
as well.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Rolls.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yeah, it's funny because you kind of it sounds like
one guy, Like it sounds like yeah, isn't it like
when you say, but then there's like, what is it
awesome as well?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
The dand isn't there?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, it's like it to me, Well you just had
it on a just writing your notesp or something and
I can't remember what.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, yeah, and I've just written down on my notes
and yeah. But then obviously when we started this, I
was just like it's kind of a project the yeah,
yeah right, yeah, I've got this name for it, a
name to a project.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
We were just like cool, it's sort of find that
sort of it feels very brit poppy, I know, yeah,
is British.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Like feeder or yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Literally, it's like, so it's nice, it's it's it's usually
it's easy to spell.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
It is a cool, cool name. It's one way like Elson,
there's his meaning quirk, but it rolls off the somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Hopefully it's just memorable or I don't know, it's just
just like it's just nice. It's just it was literally
just putting it's got a bit to a project when
it feels nice. Did you all many other names not together?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Did you stressed for you?

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah? That was it?

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, I wish when when my heal, you know,
was like we need a name kind of. I wish
we saved all the suggestions in the group chating the
build up to it. Honestly, some of that I can't
remember any specifically. I'm cringing thinking about some of it's
really bad. I think. I think at one point we

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floated like Neon Healer, Okay, yeah, that's the one, right,
what was it?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
What was it like for healer? Like what where did
that name come from? Actually, I'm interested in.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
I don't know. To be honest, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
I think like healing and I might.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I can't remember who came out of it specifically.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
It's the same.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
I think it's in a similar vein of like it's
some of the rolls off. It's like you want that
for like a project, don't you.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Or you always look at your other bands that you
like and you're like, how did they come up with that?
And why does it work so?

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Well?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, but for me, I've just never been a fan
like you know, using the right. I don't feel like
it's been overdone. I can't get down to me, which
it probably works against us because at the minute, there's
a lot of bands with that format, like The Case
and things like that we're doing really well. Yeah, so
we might have done a bit better if it was

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called something. Yeah, you'll never know.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
There's so much in press nowadays. I feel like where
bands don't even have the people had it anyway. I
think I like or blossoms.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Like they always put.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
I think it's quite a bad thing to doing it
like the Beatles.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Obviously you think of that, and that's the example I
suppose of the name.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Isn't it like the original there?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
You just kind of go to that.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, I can't remember having a conversation ever about just
what could it be? Or I think you just said
it and I was like, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
You had all the.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Always years of pain that yeah, yeah, just so starting
in two minutes it did.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Yeah, you wouldn't be over.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's almost like you need to like write a catalog
of music and then put a name to it, but
you do it the wrong way around, don't Does this
sound like.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
We're saying this, but we had this exact same problem
every time we need to name a song.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Title thing never goes away just gets harder and harder.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Should it be a lyric.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Or should it be a random word? And we've done that,
so that's fine.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, I never have that problem because I stay far
away from any lyrics titles. My contribution stops at guitar.
So how long have been together as a band? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Not even?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Is it not even? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, well I suppose publicly, Yeah, we've we've announced in April,
I think something like a band. We launched an Instagram,
which is a launch like, No, it will be a
year in April, I would say, because I don't think
we're like definitely public facing.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I guess I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
If you say years, if it was you know what
I mean, we've been played the lead of all the
other musical output.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
But as elson, it's not even.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'd say you've been busy then, yeah, you've had releases,
you've been can on stage a lot, haven't yet? Yeah? Yeah,
it's about if you come up against any challenges so
far as a.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Band, naming songs, no, I don't know, just things like
I suppose, finding opportunities is sometimes a struggle, like especially
like this time of year as well, finding like I guess.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So, yeah, we've been quite lucky.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
We've got we've had gigs and things like that. But yeah,
I mean you have to put the work in to
get to that that place you know, where people want
you to sense and yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, you've got to be a cheek, I think, and
you really do.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
You've got to be a pest and you've got to
be all over people.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, but that's obviously it's also like that's a struggle.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
On you can.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Onlike, oh, you're really good at like finding gigs and stuff,
but a lot of it is just like speaking to
people who you know already are kind of doing that,
isn't it, And then just being like.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Because on the bill was on the bill? Or how
did you get a gig? That was really what we did?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
And then yeah, like we're always going to ask questions
like we love we love playing live as well, so
like or like it's such one of those things in
it like we're so like on it, like in terms
of studio and we love like getting in sounds in
the studio and layer and everything up to like the
max and sort of putting all these little and then
you get to live and we're a free piece, so

(29:25):
we're like we we kind of get to reavisit again
and then we're just like, well, it's like.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
We have in my head.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I see him as live versions, like I don't think
any of our Yeah you get to a point to you,
but it does translate. Yeah, no, it definitely translates, Like yeah,
we're very specific on.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Finding how to translate it live, aren't we.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
So yeah, but no, yeah, we've we're just like gigging
and we like so we're talking struggles and we have
mentioned the fact that our ampers broke twice.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah right adventure Yeah yeah, we go out in the boot.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
We got all the way to the BBC was doing
all of those introducing live sessions for Home Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, and then show John Angresh saving Grace that day.
Really wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Like we wouldn't have had a session had it not
been for him.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
So pretty much all the way there and yeah, we
just well.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Like it was like what I got on and it
was like just playing there, it was like like so bad.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
There's a wiring problem and then we're like what do
we do now?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Some player.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Fixing it? Like I just like the wire in back.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
And then then we got to the pole there for
the other one, like the third time we played it,
and then they just kind of was like it's on.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
The same thing's gone again.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Looking around, but.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
We're just like, oh my gosh, there's always it had
been working fine until yeah, so daft, like it doesn't
make any sense and it's such a pain in the ass.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Just gremlins in the problems with Miam like every now
and again. It's just it's just like I don't know,
just nothing can solve it. Yeah, touch what Yeah, Yeah,
it's been all right for a bit, but there's nothing worse,
is it? When you're on stage and then you have
getting your half. It's like I never take a spare

(31:15):
guit hard to get and that's gonna that's going to
bite me in thee.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
We literally had this conversation recently like yeah, like because
I think the band, yeah, they broke a string the
first and we were like, I can't even restring my
you know what I mean, like my stings getting audience now,
Like you just think what is going to happen there?

Speaker 3 (31:36):
So yeah, I never thought.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
About that, but just with something that's coming that.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Might come, I know I've got enough to b a
back up. I never I can't be able to bring
one let alone too.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
We get another car to drive, Yeah, yeah, that's it.
We can just getting around to gigs in one car.
One car struggle is real. The struggle is really get
in like a little circus car. We all pile that.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
It's a lot more, get a lot more out of it.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
I feel like experience.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah it is is just like having to and then
we all have to Yeah, I don't know, it just
fay all just together.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah. We had we played Bello Drum Festival in Scotland.
Scotland Festival we played that last year the net Yeah, yeah,
so and a half hours driving. So me and the
missus for we'll bake a few days of it. We'll
like camp on a lock on the way up there
and we'll go to Locknesse. And you know, I had

(32:34):
a really nice trip, you know, stopped playing at the
festival and that, and then Jazz did the same. My
drummer we had like a little week away with the
missus in his head. And then Steve Kirk and Tony
they they drove all the way there on the day
of the gig, so they drove in a half hours
and then we played this packed ten yeah yeah, and
then we all got slaughtered and then we got we

(32:58):
all got the next day and drove back to Grimsby.
It was it was good fun though, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's the experience, it's the memory and the joy of playing.
I think I'll get you through like that a lot
of the time.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
It was a great gig. Insane.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, we saw was a solid line.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
It was great, mate. Yeah, yeah, I never I never
thought to say it, but I saw sugar Babe. It
was on the main stage. Maybe I'm missing.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Such a yeah, just been announce Yeah, what are.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
We doing here? Then? And then we played this We
played was like you know, like when the main stage finishes,
it's like opposite, like everyone feeds in their fair Yeah,
like in between we played that tent and then I
went back to that tend to see the headliner and
it was called A Really Good Time and it was
this four piece from Dublin Islands and they was same

(33:50):
so it was kind of you know, the band television. Yeah,
of course, it was like television combined with idols, but
these four brothers and the main so good. I recommend
listening to a really good time, really good time, yeah,
really good time, A really good time. I had a
really good time for a really good time. Yeah, yeah,
really good time. Great band. That's great.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah with that, just like that's interesting in it. I
love I love it when you see different band names
and you go out of yeah or some just work
like some you just think you were given. How you're

(34:32):
lucky to just find that name before everyone else thinks
about that.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yeah, I wish I thought that that sort of thing
soever sat trade and how you managed to pull that.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, yeah, thousands of bands got that name. So getting
into sort of the local saying and that, what's your
thoughts on the local music saying around here at the minute,
it's yeah, well we will. We love it.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It's been so supportive of us. We love the bands here,
we love the artists. So it's been yeah, yeah, no
gigs were played with with.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
The I always feel like we're just like well in
it or just like yeah, it's like the worst way
to put anything. Just you do feel like I feel
part of something, part of something, and you think there's
like a buzz and I feel like we've felt that
for a while.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Really come up in the last few Yeah, it's like,
I know we haven't been around for but it's yeah,
it's just it. There's an energy about the place at
the minute with musicians and it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, it seems like there's a few people taking it serious.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah, I mean support as well for one another.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
To do that, I think, or to be able to
do that seems to be very apparent and sort of
like we don't.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Like obviously we try and play like we we go
to hall, we play leads things like that.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
We've played Lincoln, Yeah, and we don't get that.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Same feeling as when we're here and those bands have
come out to support and things like that.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, it's all very personal in it and just I
think it's just we always just being it like it's
just like everybody knows everybody or like you can't yeah,
or like it was like the Central Hall when we
did that like that or like I can't remember who
said the comment, but it was like it was like
it just was like a Grimsby like music hall of Fame,
like everyone anyone from any band or.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Like that's what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
My goal for this year is to write a charity
single or something. So we're gonna put that out now
on the pod. We need to get we need to
just do like a big thing and it'd be great
all on the stages like hand in hand, you know,
I recon.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Raised nothing write charity would be going hungry, mate.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
We just need to do like a local, a big clab, yeah,
just getting everyone around for like I like these local festivals.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Because it's like you guys on the shop local land.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly that. Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, we're going to be like yeah we're doing and
then scoffing festival as all this year. Yeah, it's just
meant to be like well you headlined yea. Yeah that
was like good attendance to do and stuff like it was.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Good things.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I remember it being really good because it's John Blake
and and.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Because that would just be good. That's in the summer,
like we have done yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
And shout John Wayne. They are they're doing their lot
of thing.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
You know, we love them and they love like that's
just all they pushing local.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Into. Yeah, it's very authentic scaff For first, I know,
the BNSKI come in.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
They've got the Cairos, and then and then there's obviously
like I think I remember Sam Simmons on there. I
know he's on there, and I know like.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I think that the cosmic get away.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to like think because I know
it's like you go there on it and I know,
or like I played the Minster at like Christmas time,
but like just an acoustic thing and oh you just yeah,
you just then go all right, Sam's here and he's
playing here, although they're here, and then they're in the Hurricane.
Then they played here and it's all them here, like
it's orders to local. Yeah again, it's that whole of

(38:18):
the fame thing.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
That's really cool. And also just every band round here
is like the Traveling wil Bridge. You know, it's like
a super group offer. It's like HeLa just lost a member.
I don't know if you've seen, but yeah, the new
photo look really cool. Yeah, so kind of roll out
of that was really cool. Just everyone's just inbred everyone

(38:43):
like one eyed children is that.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Yeah, it's I don't know, you just that's what I mean.
And everybody knows everyone. But yeah, that's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's great. Do you think the local scenes influentially growing
up as well, like the actually because some places I've
seen it all, you know, do you think growing around
here and there being somewhat of a scene, do you
think that that encouraged you growing up to get into
music and want to be into a band.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Probably getting a bit older, like maybe maybe around like
fifteen sixteen. It was nice seeing like it was a
bit more of like a di y like indie scene
was really nice. I didn't I wasn't at that kind
of age to be going out to these, yeah, but
to see that it was happening was always very exciting
being wanting to be a part of that but not
being able to.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
You know, we were kids, so it was it was
the same for me, you know. Yeah, when I was
at college, I was knocking around with the lads who
was in like the Bright Lights and stuff like that.
It was a bit older than me, do you know,
But I was a lot younger than them, so like
I used to look up to the culture of you know,
a group of people and anything people doing that, you know,

(39:50):
it inspires you really.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, No, yeah, I can't.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, I can't remember like or at least yeah, I
just feel like I got into music so like or
at least live music, Coby wanting to be a musician.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
Or stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
But yeah, I can't. You can't play anything.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Was you doing anything else performing? Perfore music? Because you
obviously were with lowercase. If you've always been acting, yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Quite a lot in like school or you were the same.
But I used to do dance as well, like breakdancer.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Clifton's like to break dance. Yeah yeah, yeah, right, we're
gonna like if we're gonna cut to a breakdances.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
I used to dance competitions and one night or like
even the Give and rock and Roll, Like my cousin
like used to dance and we did like the jive.
We want a trophy for that, like local dance competitions.
But then like we had a teacher called Tom and
he left and he was kind of he was great,
and then he left and we were like, well it's
not as good now. That was very And then I

(40:46):
used to like Jackson. I used to love his music
as well. Actually that's earlier than the scripts. It's like
eight years old, like he just like he passed away.
And then I was like, I'm going to get really
into this guy and just like being obsessed with his
moves and I remember and then I entered talent.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
No not in the auditorium.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
The I like was like, yeah, I'm going to enter
a groomsy talent show was and do Michael Jackson choreo and.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Did that eight years old, and.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
A singer one and then in the line up, and
there's no photos for some reason, there's no coverage of
this event happening. But it did happen, like it was
a big deal in my creative journey, and there was
like a SpongeBob sort of acts on this on this thing,
and I remember that being a moment. But again there's
no footage or coverage of it, which I just sound like,

(41:38):
I don't know, I just sound like I want to
see you losing to SpongeBob. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
I think I came third or something.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
I haven't even made the top ten.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
I mean, so if you put a SpongeBob Michael Jackson,
you did like one audition and you either got through
or you didn't.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
But I got through.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You have you got any funny talent show story as well? Yeah,
I would take that once. I was part of that. Yeah,
which remember you last year it was year six. Oh god,
I didn't even know the members of the Imagine. I
was Robbie. That was the goal still is.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
But yeah, I performed that and like the last year,
like sort of that was the last year primary or
something like that.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, just just stuff like that. I remember, I can't
remember what year it was. But at school, remember Gareth
gates bro version of Spirit in the Sky with the Kumas.
It was like, come on if he likes at forty
three like an Indian family something. So for the school show,
my mates sang Spirit in the Sky the Gareth Gates version,

(42:43):
and then me and another friend we did like some
really unsavory sort of bangor style dancing in the background.
That wasn't I mean, this was you know, yeah two thousand.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, it's interesting how there's a little like a little
creative you don't you can't even predict then you're just
being a band.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
They're not telling of anything. But it's all the creative output,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
It's yeah, it's always always always wanted validation and that
people tell me, Yeah, yeah, you just.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Wanted to be Robbie, Like, yeah, we need to do
else and immediately can.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I be the monkey?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:24):
I get you with c G I no c G I.
I'm all in for costs. Yeah, so what what role
do you think local scenes like I was playing the
wider music industry, Oh, it's well everywhere it's got a
different scene. Really. The thing is with Grimsby, I don't

(43:45):
really know what would you say.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
The actual scene is here is in you know people
have like scar scene, they have the punk scene.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Well, I think it's quite an eclectic mix.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
But that's what I mean, that's what we like. When
you look at the different band Smitten, everyone's.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Like kind of doing Everyone's doing their own things.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Each, aren't they, And then it's it's amazing when they
come together because it is so varied, like you say,
like if everyone's doing the same thing, even in one band,
but yeah you go, you know you've got lower and
you're doing like electronic like amazing dance music I think,
like kids spirit then doing more like editors style, like

(44:24):
like the guitar driven like indie like actually sort of yeah,
it's just like.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Right. The same thing about it is that it's like
it's a small town and we're doing a lot. Yeah,
we're not essentially pushing in any direction. It just feels
like excitement, which is good for I.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Think it's important for the areas, like for people like
or like to do everything we can to proper, you know,
even if that's just just something as simple as supporting
someone else's them something like that. Definitely, yeah, because we
we we don't have a satellite city to attach ourselves
to do where where at the start of the tracks
are they.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I just think it's like interesting, there's so much going
on locally and there's so many amazingly like talented people here.
But it's just like it seems to be coming out more,
I suppose, or being recognized more.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
I feel like recently it's always been there, but yeah,
with things like the Internet though as well, it's become easier.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, the bands from smaller towns to.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Make that noise statement, which maybe before we won't be
able to get the gigs away, we won't be able
to show ourselves in a different way.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
You know. Yeah. Yeah, social media in the Internet has
helped massively. Like my first band just just sort of
my space. But you didn't like direct anyone to your right,
it was just it was just something you have you
Whereas now it's like I say a lot, but it's

(45:55):
almost like you've got to be a social media gurer
as well as as you want to nail it.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah you can't.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
It's symbiotic now, like you've got to do them both
to make a success.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
And the thing is you have to do it yourself
because I think people can smell that like in authenticity
of like to do your social media, yeah, copy paste of.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
What all the bands are doing. Yeah, you have to
have that character, definitely. Yeah, they've got to create a vibe.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
And yeah, or at least yeah, I feel like, well,
we're quite intentional about the output that we put out.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
We have like a branding tool.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're like an aesthetic.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It's more of like well then again that's just through
like I don't know like what I want to say
what other people are doing, but like kind of knowing
or like looking like you know yourself, right, is like
I think on social media, like you're you know, immediately
if someone sees your band, they want to go to
your page and know you immediately.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Like everything is so media, isn't it just brand? Everything's
got a correla, hasn't it. So you've got to try
and make something quintessentially else and yeah, without putting your
name over everything and you know this brand identity And
absolutely I don't think that ever stops. Even I don't
think you have nail it. I think you know, we've

(47:15):
been he's been together an now coming up three years.
Like we're at a point now where like we need
we need to rebrand, you know, becomes stale. We need
obviously we're still here. We're still here, but it's like
we need to convey ourselves in a different way, you know,
yourself having you all the time, like what have on next?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
You know?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah, yeah, don't stag get creative? Yeah yeah, definitely so
I I see like you is like the next wave
of musicians around here. You know, I ain't got much
wronger left in me now, do you know. I mean
I'm thirty two, Like I can't see me doing this,
Like you know, I'll always play music. I can always
be involved in it, you know, and I'm always tabling it.

(47:55):
But there's going to come a point where I'm not
going to want to drive to Manchester for like it.
We'll get like that. But what what what would you
like to see around here? You know, I think big
as well, Like what would you like to see in
the local area for up and coming musicians?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Just I mean we've all we've got venues, but it's
I suppose more tailored to bands and things like that.
It's nice say that we have like Yardbirds, which is fantastic,
but just more of that, just more places for people
to play, you know what I mean, Like and we've
always struggled in this area to have outside of that,

(48:34):
like places like studios and things like that and rehearsal rooms.
I think it would be nice if we was more
open for creatives in that way and more space for
creative people.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, I think it's on the rise, or like certainly
these places coming up with more of that or more
or I was just I mean, if you think can
make I'd love an amphitheater and grims me to be honest,
or like a big.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
On the dot.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, well that's what I mean, like a space like
or there's yeah, like reclaiming that. Yeah, I just think
it would be amazing, like an outside it would be great.
I would be thinking, like, yeah, then have to give
a like and to like docks and docks Academy and
stuff like that, like just like places they have massive charts.

(49:19):
But like or then yeah, like we've done like a
yabs now and stuff, and like I think there is
like a.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
There's a big like gigging scene here and stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, but just I'd like to just for that to
continue more and for it to be sort of like
or like we just or like more like when when
we played Central Law, even like just having like four
local bands on the bill, like that was such an
exciting thing.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
So I think more of that, more opportunity.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I'd like to I'd like to see a venue like
do something that's reminiscent of what the session, you know,
just that regular night, like something that becomes a bit
of a crutch for the town and it's on everyone's
circuit in the North of England, you know, like there's
places you want to hurt, there's places you want to

(50:05):
tick off, isn't that Yeah, Yeah, But I don't feel
like we have that place for grassroots musicians. I think
I love I love Docs Canny, Yeah, I love what
Docs is doing for the area, But I think that's
maybe just a little bit of a step up, right.
I think we need something completely the audience as well.
It's almost like we need we need someone who just

(50:26):
needs to just be consistent with a venue like the
Spiders and curate that one night a week, you know,
or then two nights a month and just just hammer
it and hammer it and build it and build it.
You know, yeah, something like that because we don't have
that and then they do it.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah, it's feeling that garp. But again there's like a
lot of hesitation.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I suppose in like a in a town, I would say,
or at least you find that people are less like
willing to try or explore or kind of take a
pun on someone. You I mean, like if or it's
like yeah it's just interesting in it, or like audience
sort of one.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Thing to have the idea and then it's not a
thing to people. People do it. Yeah, it's possible, you know.
It's like with what I'm doing here. You know, it
was a risk, the risk putting on a gig with
no alcohol. For even Sam, the director of the building,
he was like, no one's gonna come, yeah, because he
used to be in alcohol addiction and he still thinks

(51:17):
like an alcoholic is like, who's going to go there
with boots? You know?

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I was dancing all night?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah. That environment for the places like this
is different, you know, it's what we want. Yeah, of
course it's a bit different. I mean I'm not really
trying to push a gig as such. Here. I wanted
to be more of a session because I think with
our alcohol it needs to be something a bit different
and it is more music centric. It's not about coming
out and getting ship faced, you know, there's more music centric,

(51:46):
so nice one. So what what can we expect from
Elson in the near future? What your short term goals?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
We've got a song coming out pretty I don't know
when this podcast comes out, but we have a song coming.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Out even do I but I it'll be out. Yeah, Yeah,
this will be out after so yeah, go check that
out on stream now.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, we're really proud. Yeah, just getting more things out.
It's like the goal releasing and yeah releasing rather than.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
Doubling down in the studio getting more songs together, being
a bit more ambitious with that.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah, just just carrying on. Yeah, we've got any plans
to hook up with the producer and go go for
some proper studio time. Are you're just going to keep
the eye mine up for the single to.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Like ted.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
We're very specific with like what we like we're picking, Yeah,
but then there's athing to collaborate with yeah, yeah, but
we're open to it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
But at the moment, it's just so I don't know,
it's easier for like or you went to unions to.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Do that, so you kind of productions a whole thing
and then well, yeah, we're getting a lot out of
doing it for itself.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
It's a lot more.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
It feels better, it feels authentic. We can to have
somebody there. We've always said like that would be you know, yeah,
step up to have that amount professional.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah. Mat studios you get.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Like, well, you know, in like Liverpool and places being like,
well love what you do it? Like come down here,
we're not we haven't got six grands.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
It's like, I don't know, and then we can.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I think there's also more room for experimentation, like when
we're just we just try some we go yeah that
work get rid, but it's no one's crafting.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Love both elements. I really look forward to going to
the studio and it's nice. I like having an outsider
who's obviously really knowledgeable, you know, because you picked him
in the first place and they've got good credits. But
having someone else give you an honest take on what
you're doing, you know, I really appreciate that isn't it
as well? But it is expensive. Our last I think

(53:50):
we paid two grand for our last studio session. That
was withoutout accommodation and feel and all that.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
It is a massive whack.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
We couldn't we couldn't even afford that when yeah, like
we would work up to it. We obviously want to
be in a studio, but for now we just.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
You you like, studio is different going we get what
we want recorded studio because we can't do them.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
It's hard to track now. We're just we're on.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
Everything else is literally just through yeah, home recording in it.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
It's different as well because I don't feel like musicians,
but it's sort of a different it's sort of different way,
like we don't We're not like one tay, I'm not
going to go sit down and put a guitar down.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Oh yeah, I like to sit there all night. Yeah,
we very like we sit there tune it in table. Yeah,
it's just it's a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
We are good. Should you give a ship lay? Yeah,
that's it's that short term out of the way. What
what what she plans long term? I'd love to just
do wedding. I'll do the age a like in five years.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Five years, I mean, I want to go on top
of the pop.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
No, I don't know they're going to revive it. They're
going to revive it.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Just I'd love to do like I don't know, I
went to Leeds Fest like last year for the first time.
I'd obviously love to play a festival or just more festivals.
Even it was like again like local things like Street
I really want to play that, and like it's on
the list and sort of I'd just like to do
festival sorts, I think, and sort of support loots. You know,

(55:31):
that's that's obviously like a short term goal as well.
But I'd love to just play a lot, like support
lots for bands that yeah, bands we know or kind
of whether we get put on with them or get yeah,
we like them more.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
It's also like like obviously you're talking like five years,
I'd love to have a just a body of work
that we're proud of, maybe like an album or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, physical things as well, like physical media. Yeah, I'd
love to get some finals press, yeah, or T shirts.
I just yeah, yeah, I hate the fact that we
don't have a footprint, like you know, we have like
a real thing, like.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
We couldn't do that in the next five years.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Well, I think people gravitate towards that these.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Days, you know, having that yeah, physical, Yeah, I think
that's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's five years time you want to
it's a big sucks.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, like just light.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, let's say leeds festal I mean gets a glass,
I mean but yeah, I mean I've never been as
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
I'd love to just do it. Like it's such a
funny question in it, like we.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Just want to have that level of consistency.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, the body of work things interesting because it's yeah,
like two weeks an EP or something, which is yeah,
that's well, you know, you know, we'll.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Get we'll see next part. Well we're going to put
and go. But yeah, we're working on the e.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Right step on it or it's just.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Yeah, And I think Hila are at a point in
our chronology where we're even though we've been scarping early
three years, I think only now he really now found
that sound. Four or five songs, yeah, and I feel
like all that music is a bit like it could
almost be different bands up until the last sort of

(57:26):
five songs. In the last five songs, it's just like,
well that's it, We're there, you know what I mean.
Dialed in in a sense. Yeah, it feels right like
no one's got any reservations about any of the songs.
Everyone feels locked in with them.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
So that's what you strive for, isn't it that's the goal?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, sound in five years. Yeah yeah, that's what we're
doing at the minute now. Isn't it being intentional with
our Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, that's what Maud's Well, it's been good talking to Yeah. Yeah,
like what but one last thing before we get off?
Who should I be listening to?

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah right yeah, all local bands so
obviously healing yourself.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
You can't make.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Said Stellar or something. We're listening to you now? I
suppose like.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Instellar are inspiring, yeah, or just whoever's on your radar.
I even have to be new or you know Ben Stellar,
I say, check them out, great.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Music, massive into the wave at the minute. Graham Coxon's
band from Blair.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Yeah yeah. Did you see him on that Pedal show recently?
Was it recently? I watched gre No what I want
a recent one? But you know that Pedal Show's all
on YouTube. Yeah I've seen Graham cox someone.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen It's done the couple now, but
that new one is Yeah, it's incredible and.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I'll definitely check them out. A great band anymore, for mate,
this is a legit segment, by the way, I actually do.
Go listen to help me. I'm going to start telling guests.
I'm going to ask you this question. This is just
for you as well. I was thinking, like, promote a
couple of bands that is purely for my own self.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
You've got that's the thing O New Dad Day They're
great Irish remember New Dad They're amazing.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
I've been on that Lime Guarden band. They're a guy
as well, real real nice sound.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Yes, yeah, of course if you like all the post
punky stuff, that's that's a good shout.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Yeah oh yeah, I've just got yeah, I just discovered
they called the Soft Cavalry. Well yeah, that's that's Rachel
from the Hell of Her Husband they put out Like I.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
Was going to say, I've heard of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
They just got the one out so it's easy enough
to get into. That's like currently, that's how I'm rotating
or Lucy Dakers amazing artists. She's about a new single
other day for a new record.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
But yeah, there's plenty always around radio.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
It's so exciting to always find new things in it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, everyone's out of a lot of less pet it's
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