Where Feedback Meets Feeling: A conversation with Elson

On this episode of Sounds from the Dockside, host Dave sits down with the up-and-coming band Elson for an insightful and inspiring conversation. From their roots in Grimsby to their bold aspirations in the music industry, Elson opens up about their journey, the power of community support, and the creative spark that fuels their sound.🚀 Discover how their local music scene shaped their artistry, the meaning behind their unique band name, and their vision for a future that goes beyond the music. Elson dives deep into their collaborative process and the authentic energy they bring to every project.If you're passionate about music, creative growth, and chasing your dreams, this episode is for you!🔔 Don’t miss out—follow us for the latest updates and announcements!
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, welcome episode nine of the Sounds from the Dark

(00:03):
Side podcast with me a host Dave. Today we've got Elson.
How's it going boys?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
All right? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
So, as you know, we like to kicking off by
getting said, no, a bit about yourself. So who are ye?
Where do you come from?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, well, I'm Kimball or we've got to Owen.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So he gets confusing, So I say that, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
From Grimsby Town, grew up here on the Yarborough. And
then yeah, I suppose I am. Well, I'm the I'm
the vocalist and guitarist of Elson.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
That's what I do there. But then when I'm not
doing that, I work.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
I'm self employed as like a freelance creative, so I
do like I'll just finish a graphic design contract. Yeah,
and I would do a lot of work with low locally.
So that's like whether that's putting on our own events
or working creatively with other people. So yeah, just always creative.
It feels like, yeah, always doing something, Yeah, always doing
something creative about it and very just I like being

(01:06):
my own boss basically.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, it's good. Yeah, that's the outside of music, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Chairs En.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So what what's the I'm Karen.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, this is basically the main thing for me, just
music really when I'm you know, at home whatever this is.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Where are you from? He born and bred from Grimsby?
Yeah yeah, I'm from Grimsby. Yeah yeah, yeah. Where did
you knock about? Where do you go to school? We
went to school together to McAuley yeah because all right,
yeah yeah yeah yeah West Marsh.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes, that was Bluard, that wasn't it. Yeah, that went
the same second.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
He was following me around, so I didn't know him
in primary though.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It was only until yeah seven, Yeah, pretty much I
decided to even Yeah, I don't even know why, just
sort of fell in the same group.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
So what was it like Forbath grown up in Grimsby?
What was your childhood like? Upbringing?

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah, like we had fairly like gooniesish childhood really yeah right, yeah,
I hid stuff like I was, like I grew up.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's now where the freshly Green is? I remember?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Like we would well, we had like we were sort
of lived. It was by the eight foot we called
it because it was just like a thing, and then
it went onto the out the back is what we
called it, and there was a big pylon and we
had a next doll neighbors and we'd basically just always
shout over their fence like you're coming out.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Like that's what we do.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
And then we'd go through the railings and it used
to be like a big football pitch. There was football
goals on it. And then there was like all these
derelict houses that we used to just play in us
to play guns and shit and like whatever. And then yeah,
that was through that, and then that all just became
the growing up was like, yeah, just playing out all
the time on the out the back.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
So you had sort of the standard sort of feral Grimsby.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah yeah, like just playing.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
In till the street Lineah yeah, literally kind of thing,
shout down the road.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah yeah, I get you, you know you're out. That
was I remember that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, I just playing always like well then yeah, like
always being on a bike or a scooter or actually
all my friends there was there's a time right up
where like I think I think it was raisor scooters,
like they were massive and I really wanted one. They
all had one and I really wanted one, and then
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Ever get one. But like it was fine, I'm not being.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Like we've got a scooter, but like there was this black,
no not it was blue and orange, gorgeous scooter and
then I never got it, but they my two friends
had it, had like one of these proper scooters and
they were like, oh, you can just borrow my old one.
There was this old ship like scooter. Just remember going
down the streets. They're being off and like the Yeah,
the good thing is there's still a thing.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, if it's still you could just get.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
One perfect, just like Ellen.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Now, well on Saturday, you're going to rock up on
your sk can't wait. So do do you think that's
sort of fairal sort of childhood growing up in Grimsby,
the standard sort of upbringing on the estate and the
and that. Do you think that's shape your creative outlock?

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I think in a way or like it's interesting really
there's a perspective to that. Yeah yeah, yeah, just that
freedom of yeah, being able to be yourself out there.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah yeah, it's it's all ingrained.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, I think or even like well even in
a lot of like the I mean it's like trying
to encapture the feel of grims being a song sorry
or something that we haven't really tried that yet, but
sort of the feelings that come with that, or sort
of being in a smaller town where like you feel
like you have to be I don't know, a bit

(04:46):
louder to kind of be making yeah, make noise or
like sort of well, yeah, it is interesting, Like it's
like we haven't really looked into that, I suppose, or
like I'm just thinking out of the theme of like
that's sort of growing up, but I guess it does.
The way you kind of there's a sort of bleeding
into that anyway, naturally.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah, the way you've set yourself for like it never or.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Some of the ants that we put in, you know,
is sort of yeah, it's all very subconscious, like it
doesn't really Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Sort of working class kind of upbringing is synonymous with
guitar music as well. Yeah, it's been ingrained generationally, hasn't it.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So have you got any memories of Grimsby from growing
up that kind of stand out for you sort of
personally and musically.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Well, I mean yeah, I suppose I keep mentioning it
out the back, but like there was a there was like, yeah,
there was a night where.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
We'd we had gone through there quite.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Late, and it used to feel quite marshy and like
with the with the or the run down houses, like
they were literally just like old boarded up houses whatever,
and we were just playing there and then all of
a sudden, this group of lads like was just like
we're going to chase these kids, and like we were
like I remember it was me and my brother and
two of our other two other friends at that time,

(06:07):
and he lived like through the gap in the railing
sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
We're just like we're just out that she's playing.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
And then all of a sudden, like I'm sure, then
they pelting rocks and and we.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Were just like running quickly.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Then my brother, my brother and his mate had the
genius idea because it was all like marsh grasslands, like
instead of running, they just sort of like I think
they've been playing too much cod but they like they
like nestled themselves in the grass and I hid and
then me and the other one were just like running away.
Like so that's like a very ingrained memory, just like
I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Know why, but then yeah, just yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
That's just a story that sicks out, I suppose when
you've asked that that's in my.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Mind when always just out of the back. Yeah, just like.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Not even doing mad just literally playing like pretending to
be like FBI and.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Nothing mad Like it's just so ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
And then you're just getting like hounded by for the
kids and you're like ship and then next week you
like they're asking if they.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Can play with your guns and stuff and you're like, yeah,
of course I can.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Remember that quite vivid kids, right, yeah, like yeah, the
people who were then like well then you're playing the
singers and w's with them on the field and stuff.
It's like a very I just remember that quite when
you're young, you're not really asked are you just kind
of get on with it.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
I don't know what. There's like always seems to be
tension and it's not.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Just about yeah, what's your what's your what about UK? Yeah,
it didn't have to be like that.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
That's just what that's where in my mind.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah, I was, I was, I was a kid with
the rock.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well just memory from Grimsby.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Yeah, just something that stands out here.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, Well, you know, see a lot of growing up,
Like as a kid, I spent a lot of time
sort of on weekends.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
I used to go my dad a lot would go
like Cleve Forbes things like that. But yeah, it's so
a lot of times just spend at the arcades and
things like that on Saturdays, Yeah, going out for food
and that.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah, that's a lot of my childhood, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Drag down the Sunday market and yeah, I just get
dragged down the Sunday by my mom honestly, like in
the winter and that as well, and getting to that
cold yeah, so outside some chippy like rain. You know.
So was there anything that happened locally growing up that

(08:21):
kind of influence into music or was it just for
listening to music that that got you into it mainly?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Just like yeah, just on my own back really like
getting into music about well, as I say, a lot
of times when my daddy used to play music in
the car, a lot of killers and things like that.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
So just yeah, and then.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
You get to about thirteen fourteen, and that's all you
really want to do is listen to music and you know, yeah,
getting a little bands and things like that.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
And is that when you got into playing music as well?

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, IVE always been playing. It feels
like as soon as I got into music, that's all
I wanted to do was play with the idea Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
What about you going what mine was like?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I suppose yeah. I feel like I feel like quite.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Late getting into like or at least learning to play
music or seeing that as a as a thing. But
there was a point or I feel like we're in
the same as secondary school. We were playing the same
or I actually do. I think like there was a
guitar lesson or something, and I think it was like
learning I can't remember. I just remember it was an
a chord and it was really hard and it was like,

(09:24):
come in and learn this, and then you're like and
that was like my first time even picking up a
guitar or whatever, and I was like, got really frustrated
because when you know, when you learn, so you like
I was like, and I was like, this is ship.
I'm never going to do that, Like this is terrible.
And then a few years later I think that must
have been year rate whatever. And then about fourteenth or
fifteenth first say, my nanny brought me my first like
acoustic guitar, and I was like, I'm going to make

(09:46):
the effort now to just learn it.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
And it was literally just playing Bank one.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Eighty two songs until like there's videos and me just
like playing the watsmage again and it's just like so
like that's just and you you would send videos of
you playing like first date and stuff, just like you.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Hook from the outset as well. When you got that guitar,
was you just addicted to it?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, yeah it was.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
To be fair, I used to have really shoddy technique,
so I used to have a really stiff wrist, like
permuting and stuff. I used to use my whole forearm
rather than just like the wrist, and I was like,
I used to get really bad cramp and I was like,
this is how you play guitar. But no, yeah, I
suppose as well, like you said about the Killers, like
one of the main sort of like things I suppose

(10:32):
my band, who I sort of grew like through my dad,
was like the Script, like like, yeah, the first album
was like ingrained in my sort of musical.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's interesting. I don't think i've ever heard anyone. Yeah,
the script, like I.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Just used to be like like obviously the manic cappy
moves and stuff, and then you sort of explore more
of their cattle.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
But I remember that was the first like band I
suppose it's.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Quite easily listening. Yeah as well, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I thought, oh that's quite cool. Then you've got
a yeah that's cool.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Not that, but you haven't got there's no stigma attached
to me. You'll listen to it because you legitimately like
you've got no influence on no one's judging it.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I love the script.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, I don't love some of the new you know,
I like the first more albums I go back to
quite a bit even now still sort of, I suppose musically,
I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like, you haven't down the posters yet on the wall.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, we're going to a script come from Saturday.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Then, well this is it?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
That wasn't a request. I'll do all right about So
when when you started picking up music and picking up
did you both start playing guitar? Was that your first
instrument or did you get straightened on the bass?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
What was your Well? I started.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
I actually bought a ukulele because I thought it was
a full sized guitar.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Years old that looks.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Good and it's like a fiver. Yeah, I found got
that game ukulele.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Yeah, so I moved from that, Yeah, I think I
went straight to bass after that already given up into
the four strings.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, it's just a big, bigger iteration of the.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah get me that, but slightly bigger.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
But yeah, then I actually fell onto guitar for a
few years because it was playing all like punk bands
and things that, so it's easy just yeah, that's just
fell in love with playing like really shitty music for
a bit on guitar.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, fell back into it power clouds, yeah, power chords
and stuff.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
But well, it's funny because I think at the point
or like my first like the Internet, I want to say,
was drums, and that's what I learned first, and I
was like I want to be a drummer, Like that's
what I'm going to do. And then we had played
in bands together throughout like college and stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
On and off. It was sort of yeah, it was pointless, not.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Pointless, it's not the right word, but like if he
was on guitar then, like I don't know why I
wanted to be a drummer.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
But just you you were always like I was always
just on the drum.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
You were quite good at like switching between instruments, whereas
like I felt like I was centered on guitar.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Right, Yeah, like a couple of guitar.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, right, yeah, I think I'm probably I always thought
the idea of things I was cool, but being a
drum was cooler. Yeah, like or so then it's easier
because we've got like them, got two members, you know,
I mean, if we're both on guitar, Like.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, it was just sort of felt to do something
on it.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, it's just that the love of the music as
well in it, like being able to make sound on
so many different things. My house is full of all
yeah right, yeah, I'm a master of none of it,
but I can get a sound out of everything, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That's sort of how we all work for it is.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It is very versatile thing because because obviously we do
a lot of things from the studio like home studio.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, we've all just learned how to deal. Yeah,
and just so we can jump on like, yeah, I've
got an idea.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
The digital tools you've got nowadays as well, insane. You
can get an iPad and just start garage band.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
From garage band.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Have you seen these people who do like timed fruit
loops producing sessions where they're like making songs on fruit
If you've seen live stream, it makes me feel.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Sick, but what talent in itself?

Speaker 1 (14:26):
You you guys got together the band when you was
at UNI together? Is that right?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
No? No, because well yeah, but you were you still
you would have been. So I went to Union year
earlier than these guys. So yeah, like we went separate units. Yeah,
we'd done what we had, We've done all all the
other educations together.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
And we and then literally and he was like to
go all separate ways of it.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
We kept in touch me and you kept in to
used to come around and yeah, and I would go
over to Leeds a lot because I was like or
I was in my last year. I think I went
to Lincoln, so I was like away. But yeah, then
I was like I remember one. Yeah, there was like
a like it was like I had gone to Leeds

(15:11):
for the day with some of my UNI mates and
then I was about to get the train home and
I just was.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Like, oh, KP's in Leeds.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I'll literally message him and just and I was like, oh, guys,
I think if he gets back, I'll just stay here. Yeah, night,
I'll go and see KP. Because I'm only I'm in
Leeds now. I'm not going to come off again, probably
for a while, and I remember you just being like,
I've got a chest infection, but come and I was like,
I was like, okay, remember I got the boss to

(15:39):
him in Lee, He's like, got off the wrong stuff.
I had to like twenty minutes to your house whatever
because it's quite and yeah, we were in the center.
But then you didn't know the train system at the time.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, I could have just got a two minute training apparently.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
But but then that week or no, it ended up
being one night and it was two nights the whole week,
from Monday to Friday or whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
And then throughout that time we just started.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Or you would like you was like, well, were making Yeah,
the intead went to college together when he left Franklin. Yeah,
the intenagus the drummer is not yeah, he's.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Out, excuse.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
He's Yeah, me and him we carried on making music
for a bit, but we didn't really have much an
identity to that. We just kind of was just throwing
ideas all the time.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Just tracking stuff and play about yeah, just.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Like it was getting into music. And as we'd get
into music, would you know, get better and you know
what you think is better? And then obviously you heard
a couple of demos. Well, yeah, you just pulled up
a demo and more over that week and then or
a few or whatever.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
I remember obviously one and then we just sort of
ye stayed up most nights working on likely.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It was yeah, like we love workshopping lyrics and like
we get quiet, we're trying and get in each of
heads like trying to understand what.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, but yeah, I just remember that we really I
think that was like that started was collaborating again on it.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
That was yeah, that was like and.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Then from that point to you actually you know, starting
to rehearse properly as a band. How how long was that?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
That must have been? Well that was what we're talking
there is like June July.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, and then by septemberge back, Yeah, we were like
bing rehears.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, we went we went straight to and was like
I think he would would you do?

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I think he would obviously project like or we just
was like he's the drummer that likes this ship drummer
we knew, like we do we want to him, but
also you know he's a great music everything. And then yeah,
then we were we must have booked into corner Zone
like high September or something to just to.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
See, just to prout about going and start something or whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Early renditions of like yeah, yeah, well the songs that
we still have.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, it wasn't too long.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
What your influences as a band, would you say, Well,
we're all like.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So, yeah, I think that's yeah, that's that's what we
like about it. Really, it's like obviously you go for your.

Speaker 4 (18:07):
K Well, yeah, I'm sort of just like into like
bands like The Cure. I love David Bowie, things like that,
like that seventies sort of stuff. I got into a
pretty heavy anything like that really like yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, yeah, terrible at that. I get it for us
to tell it's easy.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
It's not an easy question, is it like your brain farts.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
It's just like everything or like anything that comes upon literally,
but it is like massive into dance music, electronic music
like Underworld and Bicep.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
He loves them, which is.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
Good as a drummer, I suppose because you get locked
into rhythm, like it's very written. Yeah, but then yeah,
KP is a massive bow We had so what they
called what do you call Bowie fan?

Speaker 2 (18:52):
You don't call a good guy? Just put everybody and
then the Cure. You love Blur and Blur or radio.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
When we like what that's like, or like, yeah, then
I love The War on Drugs like they're my favorite band.
I really like like boy Genius like a lot of like.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Have you listened to The Smile Tommy Ork's new project.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I think I put the I think I've listened to
the album when it came out to the Leader. I
was listening to like the singles and stuff and needed
the tiny desk I think did.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, Like one of our songs.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Is heavily I think not even intentionally but subconsciously like
inspired by radio ad Yeah, yeah, and sort of or
at least the vocal whenever that came. Yeah, but no, yeah,
just like we're just taking them from anywhere.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
And then it's even like when you just kind of
well then yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
I guess slow dive and ride obviously, like with the Shoe,
like Ben Stellar, we've got massively into recently. An we
Ben Stellar the call. They're from the New York. We
saw them at.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
A spelling that be like Bean and then yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
You said Stellar. Yeah, they're like they like.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
They're like post punk like garage juge sort of thing,
but they're so good and we saw him, yeah the
Brudell in Leeds, like the back in the November, and
it's just so like they were just just kind of
I've seen him like in Manchester, yes, like a few
months before and they sold it. They sold for like
fifty people. But then there was played a whold out
show at the Brude Now like six months later.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
They were just sick.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
And we keep going back like yeah, but then there's
so many in their eyes, like we all look the
twins and like everywhere carries on and carried And I
think it's good that we all have such a diverse palette.
I suppose because we're not like we're not precious to
any or we'll just try or we're always like how
can we make that poppy or how can we like

(20:52):
we just because I love like a lot of pop
music as well, like.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
The Spectrum, Like they're just super like it's into like
heavy music, yeah, yeah to a metal bands like who
the hell is that you're talking about?

Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, it's just a massive mixing part. Honestly, there's no
right answer.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
The best best way they be boring if it was
all into the same stuff and it would show any
music when I yeah, right, yeah, really linear when you've
got an experiment. Yeah, I'm the same. I couldn't tell
you like I'm not into one genre, you know everything,
do you know what I mean? And I think I
think Spotify has changed the way I listened to music
a lot as well, because growing up, I'd look forward

(21:32):
to an album coming out, right, get that physical album,
listen to it. Yeah, whereas now like I'll never listen
to an album right, I'm just it's just like, like,
who who do I like? At the minute? I like
Nightmares on Max, So then I'm like Nightmares on Max
Radio and then churning out everything that sounds similar.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Radio loophole in it. But yeah, I like that sounds
So who's doing something like that? And you go, I
could just look at it like right then algorithms great, Yeah,
it's good.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Although I've got an eight year old daughter. She listens
to the lullabyes every night bed time. So like every
time that Spotify rap comes around my top five artists,
like some lullabye artist that I've never listened to, I'm
clocking up like eight nine hours a lulla by time.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Spotify that was like a thing.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, weird ambience White Noise Tonight soundtrack on because I
was really yeah right, I went deaf.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
It's really bad infection, and I stumbled upon the Spotify
is like just like just.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
White Noise to sleep. It was horrible drowning it out.
That's a whole genre on there. Now I get every
every day day list while I.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Get recommendation six tonight is therapy.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So then where did that come from? Because it it's
a really interesting name.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
M hmm, yeah you yeah, well we just robbed it.
It's from my guy. It's my granddad's surname. Yeah. So
obviously he inspired me quite a lot growing up, like
to be creative and got me into bands like the
Beatles and things like that. Yeah, so obviously I don't
even know when I thought of naming it, but I
thought that'd be quite a nice thing to do for him,
you know, since he's so into it.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know, it's just and it sounds great as well. Rolls.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, it's funny because you kind of it sounds like
one guy, like it sounds like yeah, isn't it like
when you say but then there's like what is it awesome?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
As well? The dand isn't there.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Yeah, it's like it to me, Well, you just had
it on a just writing your notes or something and
I can't remember what. Yeah, yeah, and I've just written
down on my notes and yeah. But then obviously when
we started this, I was just like, it's kind of
a project.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, I've got this name for it,
a name to a project.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah. We were just like, cool, it's sort of find
that sort of it feels very brit poppy, I know.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, is British like feeder or yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Literally, it's like, so it's nice, it's it's it's usually
it's easy to spell.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, it is a cool, cool name. It's one way
like Elson, there's his meaning quirk, but it rolls off
the somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
Hopefully it's just memorable or I don't know, it's just
I just like it's just nice. It's just it was
literally just putting it's got a bit to a project
when it feels nice.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Did you all many other names not together?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Did you stressed for you? Oh? Yeah, that was it?

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I wish when when my heal, you know, was like
we need a name kind of I wish we saved
all the suggestions in the group, chating the build up
to it. Honestly, some of it I can't remember any specifically.
I'm cringing thinking about that. It's really bad. I think.

(25:06):
I think at one point we floated like neon Healer.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Okay, yeah, that's the one, right, what was it? What
was it like for healer? Like what where did that
name come from? Actually, I'm interested.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
In I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
To be honest, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I think about Healing and I might.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I can't remember who came out of it specifically, it's
the same.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
I think it's in a similar vein of like it's
some of the rolls off. It's like you want that
for like a project, don't you. Or you always look
at your other bands that you like and you're like,
how did they come up with that? And why does
it work so well? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, but for me, I've just never been a fan like,
you know, using the right I don't feel like it's
been overdone. I can't get down to me, which it
probably works against us because at the minute there's a
lot of bands with that format, like The Case and
things like that. We're doing really well. Yeah, so we
might have done a bit better if it was called something. Yeah,

(26:01):
you'll never know.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
There's so much in press nowadays. I feel like where
bands don't even have the people had it anyway. I
think I like blossoms like they always put. I think
it's quite a bad thing to doing it like the Beatles.
Obviously you think of that, and that's the example I
suppose of the band name.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Isn't it like the original there? You just kind of
go to that.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah. No, I can't remember having a conversation ever about
just what could it be? Or I think you just
said it and I was like, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
You had all the.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Always years of pain that yeah, yeah, just sotting in
two minutes it did.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, you wouldn't be over.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
It's almost like you need to like write a catalog
of music and then put a name to it, but
you do it the wrong way around, don't Does this
sound like.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
We're saying this, but we had this exact same problem
every time we need to name a song.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, some title thing never goes away.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
It just gets harder and harder. Should it be a lyric.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Or should it be a random word? And we've done
that so that's fine.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, I never have that problem because I stay far
away from any lyrics titles. My contribution stops at guitar.
So how long have been together as a band? Sorry?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Not even?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Is it not even?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Well, well I suppose.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Publicly, Yeah, we've we've announced in April, I think something
like a band. We launched an Instagram, which is a
launch like, No, it will be a year in April,
I would say, because I don't think we're like definitely
public facing.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
I guess.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
I don't know that you can say years if it
was you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
We've been played the lead of all the other musical output.
But as elson, it's not even.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I'd say you've been busy then, yeah, you've had releases,
you've been on stage a lot, haven't yet?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, it's about if you come up against any challenges
so far as a band.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Naming songs, No, I don't know, just things like I suppose,
finding opportunities is sometimes a struggle, like especially like this
time of year as well, finding like I guess.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
So, yeah, we've been quite lucky.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
We've got we've had gigs and things like that. But yeah,
I mean, you have to put the work in to
get to that that place you know, where people want
you to and yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yeah, you've got to be a cheek I think, and
you really do.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
You've got to be a pest and you've got to
be all over people.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, but that's obviously it's also like that's a struggle.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
On you can.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Onlike, oh, you're really good at like finding gigs and stuff,
but a lot of it is just like speaking to
people who you know already are kind of doing that,
isn't it, and then just being like.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Just because on the bill was on the bill? Or
how did you get a gig? That was really what
we did?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
And then yeah, like we're always going to ask questions
like we love we love playing live as well, so
like or like it's such one of those things in
it like we're so like on it, like in terms
of studio and we love like getting striate sounds in
the studio and layer and everything up to like the
max and sort of putting all these little and then
you get to live and we're a free piece, so

(29:25):
we're like we we kind of get to revisit again
and then we're just like, well it's like we have
in my head I see him.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
As live versions like I don't think any of our
Yeah you get to a point to you, but it
does translate.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, no, it definitely translates, Like yeah, we're very specific on.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
Finding how to translate it live, an't we So?

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah but no, yeah, we've we're just like gigging and
we like so we're talking.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Struggles and we have mentioned the fact that our ampers
broke twice.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, right adventure Yeah, yeah, we go out in the boot.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
We got all the way to the BBC was doing
all of those introducing live sessions for Home Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah yeah, and then show John angreshing Grace that day.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Really wasn't it Like we wouldn't have had a session
had it not been for him, So pretty much.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
All the way there and yeah, we just well.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Like it was like what I got on and it
was like just playing there, it was like like so bad,
there's a wiring problem.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
And then we're like what do we do now?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Some player.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Fixing it? Like I just like the wire in back.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
And then then we got to the pole there for
the other one, like the third time we played it,
and then they just kind of was like it's on
the same things again looking around but We're just like,
oh my gosh, there's always it had been working fine
until yeah, so daft, Like it doesn't make any sense
and it's such a pain in the ass.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Just gremlins in the problems with Miam like every now
and again. It's just it's just like I don't know,
just nothing can solve it. Yeah, touch what Yeah? Yeah,
it's been all right for a bit, but there's nothing worse,
is it? When you're on stage and then you have
getting your half It's like I never take a spage.

(31:15):
It's hard to get and that's gonna that's going to
bite me in the one.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
We've literally had this conversation recently like yeah, like because
I think the band, yeah, they broke a string first,
and we were like, I can't even restring my you
know what I mean, like my stings getting audience now,
like you just think what is going to happen there?
So yeah, I never thought about that, but just with
something that's coming that might come, I know I've got

(31:42):
enough to b a back up. I never I can't
be able to bring one, let alone too.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
We get another car to drive, yeah, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
We can just getting around to gigs in one car,
one car struggle is real. The struggle is really get
in like.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
A little circus car. We all pile that. It was
a lot more, get a lot more out of it.
I feel like experience.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, it is is just like having to and then
we all have to. Yeah, I don't know, it just
fay all just together.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Yeah. We had we played Bello Drum Festival in Scotland.
Scotland Festival, so we played that last year. The yeah, yeah,
so eight and a half hours driving. So me and
the missus for we'll bake a few days of it.
We'll like camp on a lock on the way up
there and we'll go to Locknesse. And you know, I

(32:34):
had a really nice trip, you know, stopped playing at
the festival and that, and then Jazz did the same.
My drummer. We had like a little week away with
the missus in his head. And then Steve Kirk and
Tony they they drove all the way there on the
day of the gig, so they drove in a half
hours and then we played this packed ten yeah yeah,
and then we all got slaughtered and then we got

(32:57):
we all got the next day and drove back to Grimsby.
It was it was good fun though, Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's the experience, it's the memory and the joy of playing.
I think I'll get you through like that a lot
of the time.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
It was a great gig. Insane.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Yeah, we saw was a solid line.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
It was great mate. Yeah, yeah, I never I never
thought to say it, but I saw sugar Babe.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
It was on the main stage.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
May I'm missing.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Such a yeah, just been announce Yeah, what are we
doing here? Then?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
And then we played this We played was like you know,
like when the main stage finishes, it's like opposite, like
everyone feeds in their fair Yeah, like in between we
played that tent and then I went back to that
tend to see the headliner and it was called A
Really Good Time and it was this four piece from
Dublin Islands and they was same so it was kind

(33:51):
of you know, the band television. Yeah, of course, it
was like television combined with idols, but these four brothers
and the main so good. I recommend listening to a really.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Good time, really good time.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, really good time, really good time.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I had a really good time for a really good time.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, yeah, really good time. Great man, that's great.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, with that, just like that's interesting in it. I
love I love it when you see different band names
and you go out of yeah, or some just work
like some you just think you're given, like you're lucky

(34:32):
to just find that name before everyone else thinks about that.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, I wish I thought that that sort of thing
soever sat trade and how you managed to pull that.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah, yeah, thousands of bands got that name.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
So getting into sort of the local saying and that,
what's your thoughts on the local music saying around here
at the minute, it's.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, well we will. We love it.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
It's been so supportive of us. We love the bands here,
we love the artists. So it's been yeah, yeah, no
gigs were played with with.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
The always feel like we're just like well in it
or just like yeah, it's like the worst way to
put anything.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Just you do feel like I feel part of something.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Part of something, and you think there's like a buzz
and I feel like we've felt that for a while, really.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Come up in the last few Yeah, it's like, I
know we haven't been around for but it's yeah, it's
just it. There's an energy about the place at the
minute with musicians and it's really interesting.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, it seems like there's a few people taking it serious.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah, I mean support as well for one another.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
To do that, I think, or to be able to
do that seems to be very apparent and sort of
like we don't like.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Obviously we try and play like we we go to hall,
we play leads, things like that.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
We've played Lincoln, yeah, and we don't get that.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Same feeling as when we're here and those bands have
come out to support and things like yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yeah, it's all very personal in it, and just I
thinks we always just being it like it's just like
everybody knows everybody or like you can't yeah, or like
it was like the Central Hall when we did that
like that, or like I can't remember who said the comment,
but it was like it was like it just was
like a Grimsby like music hall of Fame, like everyone
anyone from any band or.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Like that's what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
My goal for this year is to write a charity
single or something. So we're gonna put that out now
on the pod we need to get. We need to
do like a big thing and it'd be great all
on the stages.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Like hand in hand, you know, I record raised nothing.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Write charity would be going hungry, mate.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
We just need to do like a local a big club.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Yeah, just getting everyone around for like I like these
local festivals because it's like.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
You guys on the shop local land.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly that. Yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, we're going to be like yeah, we're doing and
then scoffing festivals all this year. Yeah, it's just meant
to be like well you headlined yea, Yeah that was
like good attendance to do and stuff like it was.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Good things.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I remember it being really good because it's John Blake
and and because.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
That would just be good. That's in the summer, like
we have done.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Yeah, and shout out John Wayne. They are they're doing
the thing.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
You know, we love them, they love like that's just
all they pushing local into.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Yeah, it's very authentic scaff The first, I know, the
BNSKI come.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
In, they've got the Cairos, and then.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
And then there's obviously like I think, I remember Sam
Simmons on there.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I know he's on there, and I know, like.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I think the Cosmic get Away.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah yeah, I'm trying to like think because I know
it's like you go there on it and I know
or like I played the Minster at like Christmas time,
but like just an acoustic thing and oh you just yeah,
you just then go all right, Sam's here and he's
playing here, although they're here, and then they're in the Hurricane.
Then they played here and it's all them here, like
it's orders to local. Yeah again, it's that whole of

(38:18):
the fame thing.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
It's like that's really cool.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And also just every band round here is like the
Traveling wil Bridge. It's like a super group of like
different it's like Heala just lost a member. I don't
know if you've seen, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
The new photo look really cool. Yeah, so kind of
roll out of that was really cool.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Just everyone's just inbred everyone like one eyed children?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Is that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (38:48):
I don't know, just that's what I mean. And everybody
knows everyone. But yeah, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
It's great.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Do you think the local scenes influentially growing up as well,
like the actually because some places have seen it all,
you know, do you think growing around here and there
being somewhat of a scene, do you think that that
encouraged you growing up to get into music and want
to be into a band.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Probably getting a bit older, like maybe maybe around like
fifteen sixteen. It was nice seeing like it was a
bit more of like a di y like indie scene
was really nice. I didn't I wasn't at that kind
of age to be going out to these, yeah, but
to see that it was happening was always very exciting
being wanting to be a.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Part of that but not being able to. You know,
we're kids, so it was.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
It was the same for me, you know. Yeah, when
I was at college, I was knocking around with the
lads who was in like the bright lights and stuff
like that. It was a bit older than me, do
you know, but I was a lot younger than them,
so like I used to look up to the culture
of you know, a group of people and anything.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
People doing that, you know, it inspires you really Yeah, No, yeah,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Yeah, I can't remember like or at least yeah, I
just feel like I got into music so like or
at least live music, Coby wanting to be a musician
or stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
But yeah, I can't. I can't play anything.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Was you doing anything else performing perfore music? Because you
obviously were with lowercase if you've always been acting, yeah
quite a lot in.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
Like school or you were the same but I used
to do dance as well, like breakdancer.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Clifton's like to break dance.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, we're gonna like if we're gonna
cut to a breakdances.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
I used to dance competitions and one night or like
even the give and rock and roll, like my cousin
like used to dance and we did like the jive.
We want a trophy for that, like local dance competitions.
But then like we had a teacher called Tom and
he left and he was kind of he was great,
and then he left and we were like, well, it's
not as good now. That was very And then I

(40:46):
used to like Jackson. I used to love his music
as well. Actually that's earlier than the scripts. It's like
eight years old, like he just like he passed away.
And then I was like, I'm going to get really
into this guy and just like being obsessed with his
moves and I remember and then I entered talent. No,
not in the auditoryum the I like was like, yeah,

(41:07):
I'm going to enter a groomsy talent shows and Michael
Jackson choreo and did that eight years old and a
singer one and then in the line up and there's
no photos. For some reason, there's no coverage of this
event happening. But it did happen, like it was a
big deal in my creative journey, and there was like

(41:30):
a SpongeBob sort of act on this on this thing,
and I remember that being a moment. But again there's
no footage or coverage of it, which I just sound like,
I don't know, I just sound like I.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Want to see you losing to SpongeBob. Yeah. I think
I came third or something. I haven't even made the
top tend me.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
So if you put a SpongeBob Michael Jackson, you did
like one audition and you either got through or you didn't,
but I got through.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
You have you got any funny talent show story as well?

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, I would take that once. I was part of that.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Yeah, which remember you last year it was year six?

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Oh god, I didn't even know the members of the Imagine.
I was Robbie. That was the goal still is.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
But yeah, I performed that and like the last year
like sort of that was the last year primary or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, just stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I remember, I can't remember what year it was, but
at school, remember Gareth Gates bro version of Spiriting the
Sky with the Kumas. It was like, come on if
he likes at forty three like an Indian family something.
So for the school show, my mates sang spirit in
the Sky the Gareth Gates version, and then me and

(42:43):
another friend we did like some really unsavory sort of
bangor style dancing in the background. That wasn't I mean
this was you know yeah two thousand.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
Yeah, it's interesting how there's a little like a little
creative you don't you can't even predict then you're just
being a band like they're not telling of anything. But
it's all the creative output, isn't it. It's yeah, it's
always always always wanted validation and that people tell me.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, yeah, you just wanted to be Robbie, Like, yeah,
we need to do else and immediately can I be
the monkey?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I get you with c G I no c G I,
I'm all in for costs.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Yeah, So what what role do you think local scenes
like I was playing the wider music industry.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
Oh, it's well everywhere it's got a different scene.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Really. The thing is with Grimsby, I don't.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Really know what would you say The actual scene is
here is in you know people have like scar scene,
they have the punk scene.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Well I think it's quite an eclectic mix.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
But that's what I mean, that's what we like.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
When you look at the different band Smitten, everyone's like
kind of.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Doing everyone's doing their own things each.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
Aren't they, And then it's it's amazing when they come
together because it is so varied, Like you say, like
if everyone's doing the same thing, even in one band,
but yeah, you go, you know you've got lower and
you're doing like electronic like amazing dance music and I
think like kids spirit then doing more like editors style,
like like the guitar driven like indie like actually sort

(44:27):
of yeah, it's just like right.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
The same thing about it is that it's like it's
a small town and we're doing a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Yeah, We're not essentially pushing in any direction. It just
feels like excitement, which is good.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
For I think it's important for the areas, like for
people like or like to do everything we can to proper,
you know, even if that's just just something as simple
as supporting someone else's them something like that. Definitely, Yeah,
because we we we don't have a satellite city to
attach ourselves to do. Where at the start of the tracks,

(45:02):
are they.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
I just think it's like interesting, there's so much going
on locally and there's so many amazingly like talented people here.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
But it's just like it.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Seems to be coming out more, I suppose, or being
recognized more. I feel like recently it's always been there,
but yeah, with things like the Internet though as well,
it's become easier.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Yeah, the bands from smaller towns to.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Make that noise statement, which maybe before we won't be
able to get the gigs away, we won't be able.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
To show ourselves in a different way, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Yeah, social media in the Internet has helped massively. Like
my first band just just sort of my space. But
you didn't like direct anyone to your right. It was
just it was just something you have you whereas now
it's like I say a lot, but it's almost like

(45:55):
you've got to be a social media gurer as well
as as you want to nail it.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah you can't.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
It's symbiotic now, like you've got to do them both
to make a success.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
And the thing is you have to do it yourself
because I think people can smell that like in authenticity
of like to do your social media, Yeah, copy paste
of what all the bands are doing.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, you have to have that character, definitely.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, they've got to create a vibe and.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, or at least yeah, I feel like, well we're
quite intentional about the output that we put out.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
We have like a branding tool. Yeah, yeah, you're like
an aesthetic.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
It's more of like well then again that's just through
like I don't know like what I want to say
what other people are doing, but like kind of knowing
or like looking like you know yourself, right, is like
I think on social media, like you're you know, immediately
if someone sees your band, they want to go to
your page and know you immediately.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Like everything is so media, isn't.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
It just brand? Yeah, everything's got to correl a, hasn't it.
So you've got to try and make something quintessentially else
and yeah, without putting your name over everything and you
know this brand identity And absolutely I don't I don't
think that ever stops. Even I don't think you have
nail it. I think you know, we've been he's been

(47:17):
to coming up three years. Like we're at a point
now where like we need we need to rebrand, you know,
becomes stale. We need obviously we're still here, We're still here,
but it's like we need to convey ourselves in a
different way, you.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Know, yourself having you all the time, like what haven
on next?

Speaker 1 (47:33):
You know? Yeah, yeah, don't stag get creative?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah yeah definitely.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
So I I see like you is like the next
wave of musicians around here. You know, I ain't got
much longer left in me now, do you know. I
mean I'm thirty two, Like I can't see me doing this.
Like you know, I'll always play music. I can always
be involved in it, you know, and I'm always tabling it.
But there's going to come a point where I'm not
going to want to drive to Manchester for.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Like it.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
We'll get like that. But what what what would you
like to see around here?

Speaker 3 (48:06):
You know?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
I think big as well, Like what would you like
to see in the local area for up and coming musicians?

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Just I mean we've all we've got venues, but it's
I suppose more tailored to bands and things like that.
It's nice say like we have like Yardbirds, which is fantastic,
but just more of that, just more places for people
to play you know what I mean, like, and we've
always struggled in this area to have outside of that,

(48:34):
like places like studios and things like that and rehearsal rooms.
I think it would be nice if we was more
open for creatives in that way, more space for creative people.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Yeah, I think it's on the rise or like certainly
these places coming up with more of that or more
or I was just I mean, if you thinking make
I'd love an amphitheater and grims me to be honest,
or like a big.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
On the dot.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, well that's what I mean, like a space like
or there's yeah, like reclaiming that. Yeah, I just think
it would be amazing, like an outside it would be great.
I would be thinking like, yeah, then have to give
a like and to like docks and docks Academy and
stuff like that, like just like they have massive charts

(49:19):
but like or then yeah, like we've done like a
yabs now and stuff, and like I think there is
like a there's a big like gigging scene here and stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Yeah, but just.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
I'd like to just for that to continue more and
for it to be sort of like or like we
just or like more like when when we played Central
Law even like just having like four local bands on
the bill like that was such an exciting thing.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
So I think more of.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
That, more opportunity I'd like to I'd like to see
a venue like do something that's reminiscent of what the session,
you know, just that regular night like something that becomes
a bit of a crutch for the town and it's
on everyone's circuit in the North of England, you know,

(50:03):
like there's places you want to hurt, there's places you
want to tick off, isn't that Yeah, Yeah, but I
don't feel like we have that place for grassroots musicians.
I think I love I love Docs Canny, Yeah, I
love what Docs is doing for the area, but I
think that's maybe just a little bit of a step.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Up, right.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
I think we need something completely the audience as well.
It's almost like we need we need someone who just
needs to just be consistent with a venue like the
Spiders and curate that one night a week, you know,
or then two nights a month and just just hammer
it and hammer it and build it and build it.
You know. Yeah, something like that, because we don't have
that and then they do it.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
Yeah, it feel that gap. But again, there's like a
lot of hesitation there. I suppose in like in a town,
I would say, or at least you find that people
are less like willing to try or explore or kind
of take a pun on someone, you do, I mean,
like if or it's like yeah, it's just interesting in it,
or like audience.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Sort of one thing to have the idea and then
it's not a thing to people do it.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, it's possible, you know. It's like with what I'm
doing here, you know, it was a risk, the risk
putting on a gig with no alcohol. For even Sam,
the director of the building, he was like, no one's
gonna come, yeah, because he used to be in alcohol
addiction and he still thinks like an alcoholic is like
he's going to go there with boots. You know.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I was dancing all night.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
That environment for the places like this is different, you know,
it's what we want.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, of course it's a bit different. I mean I'm
not really trying to push a gig as such.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Here.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
I wanted to be more of a session because I
think with our alcohol it needs to be something a
bit different, and it is more music centric. It's not
about coming out and getting ship faced. You know, there's
more music centric, so nice one. So what what can
we expect from Elson in the near future? What your
short term goals.

Speaker 4 (51:54):
We've got a song coming out pretty I don't know
when this podcast comes out, but we have a song
coming out.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Non do I but I it'll be out yea, yeah,
this will be out after so yeah, go check that
out on stream now.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
Yeah, we're really proud of Yeah, just getting more things out.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's like the goal releasing and yeah, releasing rather than
doubling down in the studio getting more songs together, y.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Being a bit more ambitious with that. Yeah, just just
carrying on.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah, we've got any plans to hook up with the
producer and go go for some proper studio time. Are
you're just going to keep the eye mine up for the.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
Single to like t.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
We're very specific with like what we like we're picking, Yeah,
but then there's ath to collaborate with yeah, yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
We're open to it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
But at the moment, it's just so I know, it's
easier for like or you went to unions to do that,
so you kind of productions whole thing and then well, yeah,
we're getting a lot out of doing it for youself.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
It's a lot more.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
It feels better, it feels authentic. We can to have
somebody there.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
We've always said like that would be you know, yeah,
step up to have that amount professional.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Mat studios you get.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Like well, you know in like Liverpool and places being
like well love what you do it, like come down here.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
We're not we haven't got six grands.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
I mean it's like, I don't know, and then we can.
I think there's also more room for experimentation, like when
we're just we just try some we go, yeah that
work get rid of, but it's no one's crafting.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I love both elements. I really look forward to going
to the studio, and it's nice. I like having an
outsider who's obviously really knowledgeable, you know, because you picked
him in the first place and they've got good credits.
But having someone else give you an honest take on
what you're doing, you know, I really appreciate.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
That isn't it as well?

Speaker 1 (53:48):
But it is expensive. Our last I think we paid
two grand for our last studio session that was without
accommodation and feel and all that.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
It is a massive whack.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
We couldn't we couldn't even afford that when Yeah, like
we would work up to it. We obviously want to
be in a studio, but for now we just.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
You you like, studio is different going we get what
we want recorded studio because we can't do them.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
It's hard to track.

Speaker 3 (54:16):
Now we're just we're on. Everything else is literally just
through yeah, home recording in it. It's different as well
because I don't feel like musicians, but it's sort of
a different it's sort of different way like we don't
We're not like one tay, I'm not going to go
sit down and put a guitar down.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Oh yeah, I like to sit there all night.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
Yeah, we very like we sit there tune it in
with table.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
It's just it's a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
We are good. Should you give a ship lad?

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, that's it's that short term out of the way. What
what what she plans long term?

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I'd love to just do wedding.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
I'll do the age, I like in five years.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Five years, I mean I want to go on top
of the pop.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
No, I don't know, they're going to revive it. They're
going to revive it.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
Just i'd love to do like I don't know, I
went to Leeds Fest like last year for the first time.
I'd obviously love to play a festival or just more festivals.
Even it was like again like local things like Street
I really want to play that, and like it's on
the list and sort of I'd just like to do
festival sorts, I think, and sort of support lots.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
That's that's obviously like a short term goal as well.
But I'd love to just play a lot, like support
lots for bands that yeah, bands we know or kind
of whether we get put on with them or get yeah,
we like them more.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
It's also like like obviously talking like five years, I'd
love to have a just a body of work that
we're proud of, maybe like an.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Album or something like that.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Yeah, physical things as well, like physical media.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Yeah, I'd love to get some finyals press.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Yeah, even or T shirts.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
I just yeah, yeah, I hate the fact that we
don't have a footprint, like you know, we have like
a real thing, like.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
We couldn't do that in the next five years.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
Well, I think people gravitate towards that these days, you know,
having that yeah, physical, yeah, I think that's a big thing.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Yeah, Yeah, that's that's five years time you want.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
To it's bigger.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know, like just yeah, let's say
Leeds Festival, I mean gets a glass but yeah, I
mean I've never been as I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I'd love to just do it. Like it's such a
funny question in it, like we just want to have
that level of consistency.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:45):
The body of work things interesting because it's yeah, like
two weeks like an EP or something, which is yeah,
that's well, you know, you know we'll get.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Well next part.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Well we're going to put and go. But yeah, we're
working on the e.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Right step on it or it's.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Just yeah, And I think Hila are at a point
in our chronology where we're even though we've been scarping
early three years, I think only now he really now
found that sounds four or five songs. Yeah, and I
feel like all that music is a bit like it
could almost be different bands up until the last sort

(57:26):
of five songs. In the last five songs, it's just like,
well that's it, We're there, you know what I mean,
dialed in in a sense. Yeah, it feels right like
no one's got any reservations about any of the songs.
Everyone feels locked in with them.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
So that's what you strive for, isn't it that's the goal?

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah, sound in five years.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah yeah, that's what we're.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Doing at the minute now. Isn't it being intentional with
our Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
That's what Maud's Well, it's been good talking to Yeah, yeah,
like what but one last thing before we get off?
Who should I be listening to?

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Oh yeah, okay, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
All local bands? So obviously healing yourself.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
You can't make.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Said Stellar or something that we're listening to you now.
I suppose like.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Instellar are inspiring, yeah, or just whoever's on your radar.
I even have to be new or you know Ben Stellar.
I say, check them out, great music.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
I'm massive into the wave at the minute. Graham Coxon's
band from Blair Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Did you see him on that Pedal show recently? Was
it recently? I watched gre No what I want a
recent one? But you know that Pedal shows on YouTube? Yeah,
I've seen Graham cox someone.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Yeah, yeah, I've seen it's done the couple now, but
that new one is Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
I'll definitely check them out. A great band any more
for mate, This is a legit segment, by the way,
I actually do. Go listen to help me. I'm going
to start telling guests. I'm going to ask you this question.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
This is just for you as well. I was thinking, like,
promote a couple of bands.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
That is purely for my own self.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
You've got that's the thing O New Dad.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Yeah, they're great Irish remember New Dad. They're amazing. I've
been on that Lime Guarden band. They're a guy as well,
real real, nice sound. Yes, yeah, of course.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
If you like all the post punky stuff, that's that's
a good shout.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Oh yeah, I just got yeah, I just discovered they
called the Soft Cavalry. Well, yeah, that's that's Rachel from
the Hell of Her Husband they put out like.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
I was going to say, I've heard of that, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
They just got the one out, so it's easy enough
to get into. That's like currently, that's how I'm rotating
or Lucy Davis amazing artists. She's about a new single
other day for a new record. But yeah, there's plenty
always around.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Radio. It's so exciting to always find new things in it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, everyone's out as a bottomless pet. But it's been
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