Peacemaker Season 2 (DCU/ HBO Max) Primer? - Disturbing the Peace - Source Pages: A Reading Collective

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now on Source Pages, we are heading over to
the DC arena for Peacemaker, where we're going to talk
about a comic and talk about season one in anticipation
for the already started season two of Peacemaker on HBO Max.
But first we'll be right.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, it's time for the podcast.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Welcome back, my fellow lovers of Peace.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
I'm Haley, who loves peace. I guess it all depends
makers of peace. I guess I'm Brian B.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Klein, and this is Source Pages, where we read comics
and novels as primers for the geeky TV shows and
movies that we want to talk about. And Brian has
manipulated me and you talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Oh you love it. I actually know what this is.
I was thinking about it knowing you like. This could
either be a this may end up being our shortest
episode ever, depending on how much you want to talk
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
I did watch the first season, so we can we
can talk about it.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Have you seen at least any of the episodes of
season two yet?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
No? I just haven't had time and I yeah, I
just haven't yet.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
But well I can tell you right now.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Everybody said the first episode starts off crazy well.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah, because he fits in season one into the new
DCEU D you where they pretty much because that scene
at the end of season one where the Justice League
shows up and you see the silhouettes of you know,
Momoa and Geodeau and Ezra Ezra Miller, they changed it
true ezra ye. They changed it to the silhouettes of

(01:54):
the Justice Gang and they interact with him, and.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Social media couldn't help themselves on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's pretty much. And then but then on but that
in the season, they they take that whole multiverse thing
or different universe thing even to another level. And it's crazy,
all right. I really enjoyed it. There's a cool the
guy that was Postpam's original boyfriend in the office the
when it worked in the dock Roy that actor is

(02:20):
in it and he plays actually a pretty pivotal character.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
So nice.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I've only watched the first episode because I was thinking
we were doing Isa Wakanda the review today and so
I didn't watch that. And it's just been crazy here
at work and kids. And last week we were supposed
to record this but just full disclosure, I came down
with Vertigo and it was I've never had that I

(02:48):
just basically what it was. For about six hours, I
felt like I had my coordination and my balance was
like I was drunk and I was feeling like I
was falling over and I just rested, took a nap,
woke up, and it was like boom, it's gone. It's like, okay,
scared the crap out of me.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
But yeah, that's not a good one to have.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
No, and my mom has it somewhat, but I think
that's a little bit more. I don't know if it's
psychosomatic vertigo or it's when you get older you get
dizzy and lose your mounds more.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Anyway, so well, it could be a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Of both, right. I mean, it basically felt like when
you stand up too fast and all of a sudden
you're like whoa, and it just lasted. Luckily for me,
it happened like when I was on my way home
from work and I only live like three court excuse me,
three quarters of a mile away from my work, so
the drive home was like fine, I get home and

(03:41):
I'm like, I feel like garbage. I feel like I'd
been drinking all day and it was just weird.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
So yeah, well, glad you're better and Yeah, it just
didn't work out schedule wise because I know on vacation
last Wednesday, so it was like, we just do that
next week.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yep. So we did that, and I totally forgot about
it that we were pushing step back. So as we're
kinda because there's gonna be no episode for us next
week is I will be on vacation. I am going
out to Oh my god, this is gonna be so excited.
We're going out to San Francisco, driving up the Petaluma
and going to the mecca for any Star Wars collector

(04:22):
and Rancho Obi Wan by the honorable Steve stan Sweet,
who has the Guinness Book, a world records record for
most Star Wars collectibles privately owned. And the reason why
we're doing it there's a fundraiser because there there's four
people Steve is included, and they're combining their collections and
they're trying to raise money to start the Saga Museum,

(04:45):
which is just gonna be and there's the guys that
are doing it with them. One of the guys, I'm
not gonna say their names because it's I don't know
how open it is yet, but this guy has like
original maquettes and like stuff that was made in nineteen
seventy five and seventy six. For the original stuff that
ILM just decided to like throw out and they people

(05:08):
had gotten it out of the dumpster and then ended
up going next like there's there's like Matt paintings of
stuff of like the Death Star and little models and
he has them.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Is he gonna donate them to that or loan them
to the new museum that the.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Lucasfilm Museum of Narrative Arts. No, that's all Lucas's stuff.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, wow, there's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Oh yeah, that's all in general. When Lucas sold to Disney,
he sold Lucasfilm and he sold ILM, and he sold
all the stuff Skywalker Sound thx, all the stuff for that.
Any of the stuff that was in his private collection
he kept and so now all of that stuff. Famously,

(05:53):
about seven years ago they had plans. They already had
everything mapped up. This was supposed to being done in Chicago,
and the Friends of the Park, or as we call it,
the Friends of the Parking Lot. There is a parking
lot between McCormick Place and Soldier Field where they were
gonna build it, which all it is now is a
parking lot, and the old McCormick Place, which they don't

(06:14):
even use, which is one of the things they're going
to expand now. If the bear stay at Soldier Field,
that'll become part of the new stadium. So it doesn't
matter anyway. The Friends of the Park is just just
like absolutely thorn to the side of anyone that wanted
to do any development on the lake front, which is
why twenty years ago, I guess when it's a famous

(06:34):
thing around here, we used to have an airport right
on a lake called Migsfield, and overnight they shut down
the airport. I mean, I guess they'd already been shut down.
Mayor Daily dozed it, raised it up, and now Huntington Pavilion,
where there's like a thirty thousand seed amphitheater there right
into lake. They started the project for that, just like, oh,

(06:56):
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Now?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
That is pretty much like the pit me of the Uh.
It's better to beg for beg for forgiveness and ask
for permission because they're like, well, we did it already,
what are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Does Dreffelica still live in Chicago? He has a doesn't
he live in the Does he have an apartment in
the corn Cob buildings?

Speaker 1 (07:16):
He has one of them because his wife, Melody Hopson,
is from Chicago, and I think they still have stuff here. Yeah,
there used to be a lot of sightings where people
would just go and he would just like go to
you know, Macy's or whatever and go shopping. And then
it got to the point where he had to do
the thing where like he's going before it opens or

(07:37):
after because it's sort of for older people. The same
as I can assume how like how Taylor Swift can't
go shopping now because everyone recognizes her. Everyone is gonna
be like, ah, I don't understand how I could never
have that level of celebrity. I'd like to. I mean,
it's even weird for me now, getting you know, recognized
from podcasts and the other stuff. But it's like, can

(08:00):
imagine like not being be able to like go out
and without people mobbing you.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It's like, no, I would be a recluse and nobody
recognizes me ever, so I don't have to worry about it.
I would totally be a recluse. I'd be like, I'm
gonna buy this a state and be left alone.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, give me like three hundred acres. I'm gonna have
a animal rescue sanctuary there, yea, and have like a
gigantic theater and like a hockey rink where if I mean, basically,
it's gonna be a more civilized version of Neverland or
never like whatever. Michael Jackson hand with all the stuff,
all the.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Stuff, everything I need is here. We're just not gonna
do inappropriate things.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
No, well that's the thing even too, Like I remember
Daniel Radcliffe saying that, like Rupert Grant after they were
done with Harry Potter, it's like all the stuff that
they said they were gonna do with their money when
they got done, Rupert Grint did, like he went and
bought a ice cream truck and drove around and gave
out free ice cream to kids and stuff like that,
and he did all the stuff with the money. And
he's just like I got more money that I mean,

(09:01):
I'm worth eighty million bucks. When you're like twenty years old,
what do you get? You can just retire, So people
are just like, you know, he justly depends.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
On where you are too, Like I don't know. Harrison
Ford comes to Wichita, I don't know how frequently he
comes now, but he used to, and probably he probably
comes more frequently than I think. He comes here to
get his uh Sessna planes serviced, and I've never seen him,
but I'd like to. But when people come to the Midwest,

(09:30):
like we tend to leave them alone, you know which,
so maybe it would be like, yeah, I can walk
down the street because people don't harass you quite the same.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
No, I think. And that's the thing too, is like
why I've never been. And it's kind of good because
I have that genetic collector's bug gene. My dad has it.
I have them for No, I'm just happy. I'm not
like my friend Chris Mock who we mentioned at the end,
who does my fails from the CANTEENA. He is a
photograph and autograph just like like he has almost every

(10:05):
signed picture from anyone that has a speaking line in
Rogue one. And it's just like, I don't, like I said,
the celebrity thing for me, I really don't care about it.
I think the only people we've talked about this before
and maybe not on this show, where it's like if
I had to sit there and pick three people, I'd
want to just sit down if I saw them and

(10:27):
be like, hey, cool, like I don't I've seen celebrities
and and hung out with, you know, people that are
famous and just like, you know what, they're regular people
for the most part, if you treat them like regular people. Right,
some people are egomaniacs and those are the people you
don't want to you know.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
You don't want to talk to them anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
No, but two of them were already mentioned. I'd love
to sit there and just talk with Harrison Ford and
George Lucas. And then my other one is Peter Gabriel,
who is a for most people I didn't realize, like
talking to some kids like like, who's Peter Gabriel? Like,
my god, he's like seriously like one of the most
influential music although if you like, yeah, if you're not
like if you're under thirty years old, you might be like.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
The children don't wouldn't know, although.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Some people don't, like didn't know who Paul McCartney was.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, that one's a little more disturbing in my mind.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
But yeah, it's just like if they don't know this,
But then it's also weird too, where like depending on
what happens on like TikTok and reels all of a sudden. Yeah,
like I cringed last year with like the resurgence of
like bad nineties alternative music like Create and olymp Biscuit
got famous again. I'm like, these guys were garbage twenty

(11:34):
five years ago. Why are they Why do people start
listening to again? I Hell, this is my opinion.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I helped with a wedding and these girls were very young,
not I mean legal, they were legally old enough to
get married the girl who's came married, but they were
listening to like all the millennial music that I listened
to in high school and college. And I was like, Okay,
I mean, see what's the rest to this? But what's
going on here?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
So what's the break for that? Is that like late
two thousands like late aughts or is it? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, it was like a lot of hip hop and
and stuff like that from Yeah, you know, like I
don't know, I can't think.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Of anything Kanye and other.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
People that Nicki Minaj and Okay, you know, I can't
think of bands because we're talking about them and so
I'm on the spot, so of course I can't think
all American rejects stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
You would you would you would be Uh. My brother
actually had a hand in universal signing all American rejects
when he was an an R guy for them. But anyways,
you would do bad like be sometimes when you got
to do the we have this game here called KaBlam
where you have to roll the dice and then whatever
it says, and then your topic is you have to
say that many things, like sometimes it's like types of

(12:50):
fruit and I can't name like four types of fruit
at the time. I could do banas and then you
freeze up, but then you have to roll the dice
again until you clear out like the dice, and then
it goes to the next person. It comes to timers
this little bomb.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
I would be better at that. That's like Outburst used
to be. I would be better at that then. But
it's when like you're talking and you're like, oh, yeah,
it was this, and they're like what was it, And
I'm like, well, I don't know because I can't because
you just asked me, so now I don't know what
it was. Yeah, when she was really good at outburst,
by the way, so i'd be good at that came.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Sometimes it's the quick thinking because there's times when I'll
sit there and I'll say it is on the show.
It took me about thirty seconds to remember what my
Liz's maiden name was because it's I interchanged a couple letters.

(13:43):
I'm like, that doesn't sound right. That doesn't sound right.
And then I looked at my phone because I have
her dad's name in there, and I'm like, Okay, that's right.
Sometimes you get that too, where like I can't remember
people's names and I've known them for fifty years. It's
like it's just like I can tell you every single
one of my childhood friend's home phone numbers. Yes, people,
if you want to know what a homebone number is.

(14:05):
But I sometimes can't remember like a friend's like or
I'll blank when they say a name and I go,
who are you? Oh my god. It's interesting what happens
to you get old a.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Lot better at names than I am now.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Unfortunately, I could pick out a face even if I
haven't seen them in thirty years and they've changed. I
could be like, I know who that is. So whenever
they had those things that pop up on Facebook, were
like who are all these celebrities? When they were kids?
I'll be just like Steven Tyler, Will Smith slash. You know,
I'll go through that and I'll be able to see that.
But sometimes names I'll be like, you could just told

(14:38):
me your name, and you know, I do that trick
when I'm introducing people that I know to people who
I don't really know, Like I'll.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Say, oh, hey, this is my friend Brian.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, I'll introduce like I couldn't figure out does a
guy I work with who he saw at a play
for our kids And I'm like, hey, this is my
this is my wife Liz And he goes, oh, hi Liz,
I'm eight And I'm like, okay, boom, I remember it.
So sometimes you gotta you gotta use those.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Quick on your feet.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, speaking quick on your feet. I get something to say.
Did you realize D twenty three was this past weekend?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yes, But I had a hard time finding any nuggets
out from it. There was like there's like nothing.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Credibles three was announced, like, okay, the plot of like
Toy Story five, which is like toys versus Technology, which
I guess was already out there though, but they showed
a picture of like the iPad that knew what it's called,
like a Lily Pad or something. Yeah, and they announced
a few more of the Pixar and Disney Studio animation

(15:45):
uh movies, which, by the way, Disney movies these animation
studios pretty much looked like Pixar anyway now, so it's like, this.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Isn't the place for that, but I I we need
some more two D hand on esque animation, yea.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Because what was the I think the last one was
what Princess and the Frog And that's been almost twenty
years now they haven't done that. I know that I
was reading. I think because it's like the twentieth anniversary
of Atlantis, which was a huge bomb, even though it
was a good movie. It was just that people were
getting over the two D animation. But even then, some

(16:23):
of the more recent ones, like what was that one
that came out to l e O or eloh, the
new Pixar movie. It was rated pretty good, but it
did not make money at the Boy's Office.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
So you're right, it is the Princess and the Frog?
How where did that come from?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I just always remember that that that was the last
two D animated like two D drawn Disney studios thing,
because they at that time they were still doing stuff
like Bolt and Chicken Little, which was theirs, but there
was more in that three D Pixar style Meeta.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Robinson's Winnie the Pooh Winnie the Pooh from twenty eleven.
This film is widely regarded as Walt Disney's last fully
two D animated future film, though it incorporated digital techniques.
Princess and the Frog is considered by Something to be
the last handra on film before Wenny of the Pooh. Wow,

(17:20):
it's just a lost art.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, and I think it's so much easier to do
the three cheaper. Yeah, it's cheaper once you have the
the I always thought they talked about this even way
back in the day where Clone Wars. Originally when it
was on, George Lucas was paying for that out of
his own pocket and he was losing money. But the
guy was like billions, so it didn't matter to lose

(17:44):
his pet project and he wanted it done. That's why
it went five seasons. Once it was sold and they
realized where the money was coming from, they're like, well,
we're gonna cancel it. But then we brought it back
at anything. But that's a whole different story. Once you
get the what do they call it not models, but
they there's a markets, well, the market. It's a thing

(18:05):
that's like once you have a character that's in the system,
you could pretty much manipulate it so much once you
already have the digital assets. So once you had that
all done, which is why I thought was weird when
Netflix did the season for a season of the Age
of Resistance for Dark Crystal and then they're like, we're
not gonna come go with a season too. They already

(18:26):
had everything you needed. It was just a matter of
making another season. Now you already have all the sets,
all the pumps, and now you're just losing that, and
it'd be like you're done.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
I mean, Disney, if you like Disney and you like
Disney History, they have so many cool behind the scenes
you know shows and documentaries on Disney Plus, which I
watched a lot of them during COVID. Oh yeah, like
the imagineering stuff and all that. It's just sad like
to see even.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
With the parks closing or the attractions too, but.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Like it's you're just like, dang, this was like just
an art that died and they don't want to pay
for it and that sucks.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, even that sometimes when they go back to the
old style, they realize like it's fun and nostalgic, but
people don't want it, Like the kids aren't used to it,
so they don't want to see I think it's like
the Dark Crystal Show was the people that loved it,
and it was aimed for the adults who liked it originally,
but the kids nowadays were like, it's puppets. What do

(19:29):
you want to see pupp Which is why I think
no matter how hard they try, it seems like they've
rebooted The Muppets thirty times in the last twenty years,
it never seems gain traction because of the fact of
what it is, which is why I still with them
closing down that whole thing in the Muppets attractions and
they're replacing it with whatever. I mean, they made a

(19:51):
big deal of the fact that it was closing, and
it still just as like, well, there's nothing else they
could do. They own this property. But I mean, they're
not gonna mothball it. But it's also gonna be because
I thought of that too, because the one of the
really cool ones, the imagineering one, where they they pretty
much went from creating the first Disney world to the

(20:14):
up like at that time when it was like Shanghai
or uh it was basically right up until Paris and stuff.
It was like it was really cool to see all
the behind the scenes things, and like the ilm ones,
those two seasons that BET are fantastic. So there's so
many of those good ones, just a few of them.
I'm just madin that they stop doing like the galleries
and like the isn't the Marvel the Marvel stuff. I

(20:37):
think it seems like it just goes like the YouTube that's.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
On Disney Plus two, I think. But yeah, but like
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Seen any of those behind the scenes things, Like I
think we got spoiled for like the first season of
Mandalorian where they had like one episode for every there
was eight episodes for season one, and then season two
was like one episode and then they gave us one
later on after the reveal of Luke, right, and then
season three and then every other thing it's like an
hour and you're done. Yeah, some of them don't even

(21:05):
have it. And then even with the Marvel stuff, they
don't have it, like for all the movies and all
the shows. So it's like I think the.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Last assembled I've watched was for Agatha.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
It wasn't that. I think that was originally on YouTube too.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
It was yeah they I think it's on Disney Plus now.
But yeah, yeah, weird. Technology makes way for efficiencies, but
it also like in the this is so not what
we're talking about today, but like no excitement of finding
new and innovative ways to do things, we tend to
leave behind things that should be preserved, and we're seeing,

(21:40):
I think, a return to so much of that. I
saw a post about Gierma Guermo del Toro's Frankenstin that
he like refuses to use anything other than practical, and
you just know that film is gonna look amazing because
of that.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
So yeah, sometimes it's weird because I thought of it too,
And I'm glad I talked to you about this before,
because if you guys are looking for something to watch
and you've got Apple, the season one of The Studio
is one of the most fantastically frantic shows I've ever
seen in my life. Did you see the one thing though?

(22:17):
They dropped there? Uh, they were talking about filming something.
It might have been the one shot and they're like, yeah,
it's not like that weird volume thing that Disney is
to film stuff. And I'm like, oh that was a dig.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Yeah, oh there they dig everybody in that show.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I know, it's kind of fun. I went and looked
like every person that plays themselves in that show, all
the actors are out people that like Seth Rogan has
worked with numerous occasions, which is like, why James Franco
and Dave Franco or Dave Franco and what was the
I can't think of that? See this is my the
Guy High musical.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Oh, Zach Efron.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Zach Effron. That episode with the lost reel was so okay.
It has There was a couple of things I had
I took umbrage with because of personal experiences, and that
was like the first night in Vegas for CinemaCon, the
way that the drugs were affecting them. That's not how
it works at all, but I digress.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
It is taking a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It is seriously like Liz, Liz is like, I can't
watch another episode right now because I'm exhausted. It's fantastic,
but I'm exhausted from watching that first episode because it's
just going like, oh my god, Seth Rogan you're the
head of a studio, But why are you acting like
such a moron?

Speaker 3 (23:41):
But you know, you just know that that's people act
like that.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Oh I know, because I mean people act like that in.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Regular world jobs, and just imagine it in Hollywood. I
I think if you I've said this on other shows,
I'm sure, but if you like behind the scenes stuff
and if you like you know, how movies and TV is, mate,
you'll love the Studio because it is completely satirical in
poking holes and stuff. But it's also like you just
know so much of this stuff has happened.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's one of those things where it's like like I
maye think of it too, because this is spinal tap.
The end continues, comes back again a couple of weeks,
and that was when that was me. I think that
was pretty much the movie that started the whole mockumentary thing,
because that was an eighty four, right, and it was
about this fictional band that was actually a band, but

(24:30):
it was famous actor or famous comedians. It said that
so many people are like, We've had all this stuff
happen to us in real life and concerts and backstage,
and they're like us getting lost to go from the
dressing room to the stage in the arena. No one
could figure out how to get there, So all the
stuff that happens in the studio you gotta figure And
then also sitting there trying to piece together like hmm,

(24:55):
who was seth Rogen talking about when he mentioned this
thing happening. Yeah, it was just like it's like him
him dropping names without dropping names.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
So yeah, it's very funny.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I also love when Ron Howard acts like a complete like,
especially with his his I'll always think of him though
too now as the scene in Only Murders where he
sees Martin Short's character and he does the soup thing
where because that's how like Martin Short kept saying, I
know Ron Howard because we shared a soup and this
and that, and he kept doing that in the new season. No,

(25:28):
well it was just season four, all right.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I didn't watch that season. I've kind of given up
on Only Murders, like I'm over it.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Some and died in the building and they have to
figure out what it was.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
What crazy?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Why are people? Is the munch that I love the show.
It's like, why are people still living in this building?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
It's just it's just gotten a little old and no
offense to everybody likes her, But I find Selena Goma
is very hard to listen to, her voices very annoying, and.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
I'm still gonna try to figure out. And this is nothing,
This is no shaming or whatever, because they said that
they're gonna let us know between the ending of season four.
In the beginning of season five, Selena Gomes lost like
forty pounds, right, and they said they're going to have
to They found a way that they're gonna explain it
in the show because it's supposed to take place like
the next day. You don't lose forty pounds in twenty
four hours, So it seems I don't know if it's

(26:18):
like super rezembic or whatever. But anyways, into this episode,
and we barely talked about Peacemaker.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
This was your idea, this.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Will be like the Peacemaker. Well what did what did
you think of? How like just season one in general, it.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Was exactly what I expected it to be, which was
just James gun stuff. You know, Like I think that
I really liked John Cena, I really liked Daniel Brooks.
I thought they had a very good dynamic with like
the different roles that they have to play. I like

(26:57):
the guy who plays Vigilante. He's very funny. I didn't
care for James Gun's wife. I thought she was not
a very good actor. But that's okay whatever, and it
was fine. It was just it was fine overall. I
didn't hate it. I didn't think it was incredible. It
was fine. It's fun. There was an episode where I

(27:17):
laughed out loud a few times, and I don't remember
which one it was, but I'm pretty sure it was
stuff John Cena was saying, because the way he portrays
the character is funny.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, because he portrays this guy as someone that has
this single minded.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
He the most centered person in the world.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, but he's also like he's peacemaker, but he'll kill
for peace.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's one of those things where it's just like, oh
my god, you know, just contradiction as much, and he
doesn't deviate from that that much. But he also especially
like sometimes like in season one, where they were going
in for meetings, like yeah, the rest start ever and
he comes in full yeah, just outfit the helmet and everything,

(28:02):
and they're like yeah and so, but he's so he
is one of those guys.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
So the job you want exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
But he's so blindly devoted to his cause that he
sort of oversteps it sometimes, and which we'll see what
happens in this season, because the ramification is what happened
in the Suicide Squad with him killing Rick Flagg Junior,
and Rick Flagg is now in charge of Argus or Slash.
But I don't I think it's still called the Argus, Yeah,

(28:31):
because I always forget the guy's name, the Greek. He's
got the Greek name, the the guy in the band,
the guy with the long hair in the glasses.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Oh, don't do this, we're having we're having trouble. Oh
what's his name? The bearded guy?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
Yeah, he let's to see here.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
How do you all have weird names?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Well, that's the thing is though, because it's one of
those people economous economos. Yeah, because some people call him
econd of most economists.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I just love that scene first one where they start
freaking out about Hanoi Rocks, which is like a Finnish
band that is most famous for. In the eighties, Vince Neil,
the lead singer of Motley Crue, got charged with involuntary
manslaughter for their lead singer because they were driving to
go get more drugs or something. They were drunk, he

(29:32):
crashed a car, the dude died, he got off, he
got the rock star treatment. It's the only reason why
anyone in America really knows about Honoi Rocks. They weren't
even like in a the like lower tier of bands
that broke out of the hair metal scene. So but
for him that had to be such a focus of

(29:53):
the love and they even brought it back a bit
in season two already because I mean, obviously.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
Economists the bands he talks about.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
That's the one in the van. In the van where
he's got the tattoos, and he's like, I saw them
in Finland when nineteen blah blah blah, and they were tired.
Like you don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
I know that. That's James Gunn's thing. It's like, I
like all kinds. I'm like cool music, but I there
is a point where to me where I'm like, okay, James,
like we get it, we get it. You like alternative shit, Okay,
oh good for you.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
But I do appreciate the fact for him is uh,
the way things used to work way back in the
day before the Internet is there were people, there were bands,
and stuff that were locally famous and no one else
around the world knew about them, and one of them
in Chicago, And I think we talked about this when
we were doing dealing. One of the things for Guardians
is that Aliota Haynes and Jeremiah he had a huge

(30:46):
song in Chicago called Lake Shore Drive because it was
about Chicago, and then no one knew about it really
until it was on this Guardians Too soundtrack, and now
it's like everyone knows the song.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
The Guardians music is much more mainstream than what he
does and his other stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh yeah. This was definitely, especially with the the intro
to season one, the whole dance sequence thing. They did
it again for season two. They changed the song. I
don't like it quite as much, but it's such a
big I remember seeing it that the first time, going like,
what was that was so cool?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I don't even made it through that. But you know what,
it's it's fine. It's not it's fine. It's a fine show.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
We had you read or we read Peacemaker Disturbing the
Piece one shot from nineteen or twenty twenty two. That's
the thing now where it's just like, oh yeah, okay,
I know how old you are. You could rent a
car if you have a nineteen in your birth.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Year, Yeah, you can get the alcohol.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
It was written by Garth Ennis Art was Gary Brown,
Lee Lovefright, and a bunch of other people. And it's
actually a pretty cool story because they cruxt of it
all is that he was going into, Wasn't it reminds
me of like.

Speaker 3 (32:12):
He's being evaluated, Yeah, for something. I don't remember why
because now it's been like two weeks since I read it.
But he's like this woman, the psychiatrist, doctor Sedgwick. She's like, Oh,
I'm going to tell you all about what's why you
are the way you are. And he's like, oh are
you basically, and so we learned his backstory. The whole

(32:35):
thing is his backstory.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Right, because it's pretty much like everything that he goes into,
there is a high volume of people dying.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, and then you noted this is a mature comic.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, and it's a long way. It's like forty pages too,
so it's like but the end result was that when
he was talking with him and talking with a psychiatrist,
because they were at first I thought they were sitting
on a bench like in a cemetery ends up just
being like what like a regular park brench where they're
just having this conversation and at the end he's like, yeah,
there were a lot of people that died on my

(33:11):
in the groups I was in because I killed them
because they were not good people. So take that for
what you will. Again, that goes back to my his
doing bad things for the right reasons, him killing for peace,
which you know, the whole hypocrisy of at all. But
it dead just explains how this character is and the

(33:37):
character itself is, because honestly, if James Gunn would never
brought Peacemaker into Suicide Squad and then they had to
show and John Cena play, It's like no one would
have had any idea that this character is this. He's
like a D List or DC character. Man, my god,

(33:58):
these allergies I really mess with my throat.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Cut it out.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's sort of like, uh, David Mouth the mouth mouse
and plays Poka doont man in.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
That's my thing with James Gunn. He's like, this is
what I do. I take characters nobody knows. I'm like, okay,
like we gotta yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Well I'm a good job and guardians giving.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
You but like, don't make it your whole personality. Sorry, anyway,
I digress. I know people love him. Sorry, I'm a hater.
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Oh yeah, because his last movie, like no one knew
that the who the title character was that they Superman.
I digress.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know what I'm talking about, right, But.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
He basically at the end of this whole psyche evaluation
was just like take this for what it is. This
is who I am. I'm not hiding anything. Yeah, and
it's been out there and I'm just the one that
in the circumstances that's in they're giving us licenses to kill,
I'm doing what is being told to be done, but
I'm also taking out I mean, if they're giving me

(34:59):
the license to kill a bad guy, I'm going to
kill the bad guys, whether it's on the opposite side
of us or it's on our side.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Because she's trying to make it be that he's like
this because he walked into his family home and his
entire family was dead and it's very graphic, including small children, babies,
and he's like, no, no, that's not why. And then
she's like, well, then you were like abducted by these
crazy Bonnie and Clyde type people and they you know,

(35:28):
over shared with you and blah blah blah, and he's like, no,
that's not why I'm the way I am. Basically, it's
just like you're saying, he just this is who he is.
This is his compass that points him the way he
does things right, wrong or indifferent.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Not that they didn't have an influence, but it wasn't
the leading factor of yeah, making him who he was,
because if anyone else in those situations saw their parents
and their whole family getting murdered and then they're part
of this just cult of violence and whatever, would see
them as being like a Joker type character or a

(36:05):
mentally deranged, you know, fanatical lunatic. Almost he has I
think if anything he has, even if it's misguided, he
has like a clear train of thought. It's not and
that sometimes could be. And that's why like John Cena,
he's especially with the end of last season and then

(36:26):
this season, he can realize that there isn't just one
path to get from A to B. You can diverge
if it is because he's.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
You find he might still do the thing and then
question was that the right thing to do? But yeah,
it's not completely black and white. It's mostly black and white.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Right, It's not like a Frank Castle situation. Who is
pretty much just like you're on my radar, I don't
care what you say. It's like almost talking to like
an automaton or like whatever. I just got done. Re
listening to Shadows of the Empire, which is a fantastic
thirty year old Star Wars book, And there's one character

(37:08):
and that which is a human replica droid. Have you
read her recently? The Shadows of the Empire.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Is that legends?

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, no, it's a thing that pretty much sets up
between Empire and Jedi them trying to find Han. But
there's a character that is Gury, who is a she's
an all else looks like a human female. But it's
just like you can't reason with them because they don't
have that circuit with them because they're adroid. So it's

(37:37):
just like, if this is what they need to do,
you can plead and do whatever you want, like the
Terminator to just kill you, because that's their job. You know,
they don't know how to divert from that. And so
he's becoming a peacemaker, or Chris Smith is becoming a
little more open and flexible. I guess is the word
I'm thinking love. He's you know sometimes and they also

(37:58):
put him on missions where it's like they're not telling
him to hold choose and then realizes like.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah, and then because he's kind of a blunt instrument,
they're like, well, hold on, don't do that, and he's like, well,
you guys aren't telling me what's going on, So I'm
just gonna do what I know to do. The end.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Yep, you get what you pa on your head.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, that's not what you wanted.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
That's not what you wanted. Then don't tell me to
do it in the first place, because I don't know
any different. This is what you're paying me to do. Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
So yeah, I'm looking forward to season two. I haven't
hasn't been like something I'm racing to watch just because
of other stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
But I will say there is in it. It's sort
of the storyline. But I'm letting everyone know this. It
hasn't seen this and letting you know this. Through in
season one, there is a very graphic orgy scene that
is it like like pornographic, but there's a lot of

(38:56):
just like nudity and he's there.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Episode one.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
It's episode one of two season.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
And I was like, no, I don't really remember episodes.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Watched it episode one of season two. Okay, it's near
the beginning where Peacemaker is sort of like just going like,
what is wrong with me? And so I think he
takes too many drugs and he's sitting there and you'll
see what it is. But I'm just letting you warranted.
It's obviously this is a show any of the decent.

(39:24):
Like I remember talking to people that are like, yeah,
my kids wanted to watch Creature Commandos, and then all
of a sudden, they're like, it's like.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
And then these cartoon characters are banging each other.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yeah, and they're swearing and this and that. I'm like,
at least, like when that Harley Quinn show was on,
she drops an F bomb within the first like minute
of the show. It sort of tells you what the
show is about. So that obviously Peacemaker is definitely not
it's a it's a hard sixteen seventeen rated show. But
I enjoyed it. I enjoyed season one lot. I enjoyed
first episode of season two. It hits you and a

(39:58):
whole bunch of different things too, because I think that's
what's going to cause the maturation and development of his
character is not just Peacemaker, but as of Chris Smith
because of what happens in season one, which I didn't
even think is because it goes back or season two.
It goes back to something that you see in season one.
But then they're like, oh, okay, that makes sense. So

(40:21):
I mean, if you saw the trailer. Have you seen
the trailer for season two at least?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Uh no? Honestly I don't think I have.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Okay, well I won't even get to it and it'll
be a surprise when you see what happens.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
So okay.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Anyways, Yeah, that was our ten minute talk about uh No,
I don't even know how I'm gonna like it. Kind
of named this episode. It's like Peacemaker Primer plus Disney Animation,
the others plus plus technology. Yeah, we talk a little
bit about it. Like it took us like twenty five

(40:53):
minutes into the episode. So whatever, it's our show. You
don't like it, hang up, yeah whatever.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Spotify makes the chapters now so you can skip. We
don't care.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you're not listening to our show.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
To be mean to have extremely in depth character.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Now we can't do that for some stuff, so which
I think might happen a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Here's the thing about Christopher Smith, He's not an extremely
in depth character. No, they're giving him more depth in
the show right now.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
His character is pretty much like the baby pool end
of the swimming pool, and he might be able to
go down into the deeper side of it though. But
I think in our we're gonna be off the next
week because like I said, I will be in California
when we come back with our next episode. It's gonna
be uh. I think this could be something that's gonna
be a very detailed because we're gonna have our Sacred

(41:53):
Jedi text High Republic Phase three slash whole series recap,
and I know I'm gonna let Todd give him some
editorial time about to talk about Geode and his character storyline.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Coroner on Geod for sure.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, this is what And I finished. I finally got
to the time at work to be able to finish that.
So in the like in the last week at work,
I finished Charles of the Jedi, I finished Sanctuary, I
finished Shadows of the Empire, I finished, I listened to Padawan,
which was the Kenobi book where they send him off

(42:32):
on a mission by himself. Yeah, and I'm jump back
into the Legends Rogue Squadrons. So it's like, I Sanctuary,
Did you finish Sanctuary? Yeah? I like that, Yeah, I
like this.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
But I did like how the High Republic, how it
wrapped itself up where it was just like it did
a great good job, but it's also sort of like
h and it didn't leave itself to have many of
the things come back like in current storytelling, because this
is still two hundred years in the past. But it

(43:08):
did also be like, Okay, this is why we really
don't know about it too much in uh current times, because.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
That's always a loophole you have to dance around when
you're doing Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Yeah, when you're doing prequels and sequels, we're like, well,
this was at this point and this this was his
age then. But in the show they say blah blah blah.
It's like, yeah, relaxed there, settle down, Francis. So anyway,
so that will be our next episode, and then after
that we're doing a primary for zombies, Marvel Zombies Halloween

(43:43):
episode Halleween Halloween issue. We'll get to Isawa Kanda. I
really enjoyed the first episode from that. I did like
the animation style it also it reminds me of something
that they use sometimes with the Marvel animation as flashbacks
that like when you're doing something, but it's the whole episode,

(44:04):
especially because the first episode took place how many thousands
of years ago? But uh so we do that and
then we've got Man. We don't really have much left
in this year as far as stuff coming out. They
pushed no, they said, didn't they say, wonder Man will
come out this year.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
It's gonna come out. Yes, we will see and I
will be proven wrong. Not right.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I'm sure we'll talk about Peacemaker again. Maybe we might
do a little something in a month or two for
Star Wars visions. We'll see what happened.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Today or yesterday. There's another Pumpkin Queen book, so maybe
we do that for really Halloween.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Mm hm cool. Yeah, definitely, because like I said that,
we got a lot of tracks. I think that's one
of those episodes I'm gonna release every year because I
did that last year around Halloween, just like this is
what happened to years ago.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
This a new one.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Yeah, I would love for them that do like stop
like an hour long stop motion for that, because it's
so cool and it relates so much to the original movie.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
So indeed.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Anyways, But in the meantime, if people want to write
us nasty letters and yell at us, how can they
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Speaker 3 (45:19):
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(45:40):
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Speaker 1 (45:45):
And speaking you of shows, we have our list of
our podcast buddies, which shows that we think that you
would enjoy because we do and they're friends of ours
and we're just here to plug them away and so
their names and links are in our show notes. But
I'll will give you a quick rundown that is a
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have questions commute the podcast Sigabits, My Tails with the Cantina,

(46:08):
or about Forest Radio Presents The bob Ou Freaks, Jack Kirby,
So Weird, So Fun. We're gonna have a couple of
episodes on for that that's been on hiatus because we've
bob been so busy. But since we're going to Petaluma,
we're gonna be doing like updates and recaps what we've
done because we're going to like go see the the
Yoda Fountain, and go to the Presidio and go do

(46:30):
all this other stuff and go to Haye Ashbury and
go do uh just whatever. Just recapping our chronolize or
chronicle chronicle chronicling our adventures out on the West Coast,
and what's the last episode Star Wars Yo Universe, which
is hosted and run by our very own James Hewings.

(46:50):
So that's it. Yeah, I guess it didn't end up
being as short of an episode as.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
We do.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Because we talked about everything else besides make for the
first half hour.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I will say before we go, Jack Kirby, they just
did their three hundredth episode and they had Walt Simonson
on which across the by for us. They have also
had Walt on and just any chance you get to
listen to him be interviewed. He is very smart and
very funny and has stories for days. So go celebrate
those guys by listening to that episode.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Yeah, And that's why I love about that is because
they get the the in depth like people that you know,
we don't normally. I mean, there's been people that I
could have on here and asked about it. But let's see.
Oh my god, this move Hour of the Pumpkin Queen,
Tim Burtons, the Night movie for Christmas, this move. This

(47:42):
book's been out for two.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Months, I know, I just I just learned about it yesterday.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Okay, and they have it on audio books, so they
will do that and this will be yeah, a whole
lot of a second because it's part of a series
Pumpkin Queen. I don't want to see here and be
like this is the fifth.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
Book and nope, this is the second, and I think
they're going to do three.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
So Long Lived the Pumpkin Queen, which came out three
years ago, which we've done, is fantastic. And then Hour
of the Pumpkin Queen, which is yeah, to her continue
adventures being married to Jack and the I mean not
it's not like that, but it's just listen to read
the first one and you'll see what it is. Yeah,

(48:21):
she has responsibilities and she finds out where she comes
from and everything, and it's awesome. So anyways, yeah, uh yeah,
then all you got, That's all I got, all I
got already. So until we meet again, remember two things,
be excellent to each other and never judge a book
by its movie.

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