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July 15, 2025 • 63 mins
Source Pages has hit 200 episodes, and there's a party going on in here! Hayley and Brian are joined by fellow SPaRCasters Karen (Timey Wimey Talk) and Todd, aka "Suds" (Sacred Jedi Texts) to chat and reminisce about the past 200 episodes, the emergence of specialized movie theater popcorn buckets, and whatever else comes up. "We would be honored if you would join us."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now on source pages. We are here on our
two hundredth episode. You've heard that, right, two hundred episodes.
I never thought we'd get this far. It's happened, though,
So we're gonna have some guests on talk about just
whatever we feel like talking about, because this is one
of those wide open smorgas boards of an episode. So
but first.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's time for the podcast. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to our
two hundredth episode. Everybody. We're not welcoming back, we're just welcoming.
I'm Hailey Hobbs.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
And I'm Brian re Klein.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
And we're joined so kindly by our lovely friend Karen
from across the Pond. It's it's late for her.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hi Karen, good morning episode.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Thank you, and lovely wonderful Todd as well from our
sacred Jedi texts.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Good evening and thanks for having me along.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
There were in Central time zone and one in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah exactly, so we got like three quarters of each
one of our I want to call him this bonus
or our extra podcast, so we do here. I mean,
everything is under the feed. So that's what contributed to
the two hundred episodes. But I would be remiss if
we weren't missing our good friend James Hewings, who, unlike Karen,

(01:40):
decided that it was too late for him because he
said it was a school night, and I'm like, wait
a second, it's July. I don't know if that's just
a term. I mean, because sometimes they'll say it's a Wednesday,
it's a school night. And then from our sacred Jedi text.
And then also Liz, my wife is currently working, and
she might jump on in a little bit when she
gets back. Who is our fourth on time? You want

(02:01):
me talk? So if you guys remember I was thinking
about this earlier because I was thinking about maybe asking
a few of the guys who contributed before. But then
I realized in the last hundred episodes we haven't had
a lot of guests as much because if you remember
our one hundredth when it was me, I think it
was who else was randon Ian? And was Ryan? Yeah right,

(02:28):
and it was just chaos. It was just like it
was just it was fun and all, but it was
just sort of like, all right, let's take over the
airwaves here.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We've grown and become so focused on one hundred episodes.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, so now we have enough people of our own
like they called people of our own like we own them.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
But people in the Source Pages.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Family, you know so. And I don't know if we've
ever mentioned this, but I think we could probably talk
about it now in our two hundred episode four years later.
Hearen actually has a special place in the podcast because
she was one that pretty much mostly named the podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Do you remembered it before we did?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
So?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
But now in a more like a concise manner, I remember,
because if everyone remembers, the reason why we started this
podcast is so we could talk about Dune the novel
before the movie came out twenty twenty one, around maybe
May mid May, and we were trying to figure out
a way to keep the sp and then the form

(03:36):
stranded Panda and then but keep it focused on the
literary side of things. And I think Jay Scotty said something,
and then Karen wrote back, I think you had a
list of like two or three or four names, and
one of them was source Pages, and it was like,
that's perfect because it fits. And then a reading collective
kip that as a spark, and then here we are,

(03:56):
and here we.

Speaker 6 (03:57):
Are, here we are, so I get the props. He
did come up with those pages. So my my my
bit was collective.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Okay, it's been so long my brain and like Hayley
we were talking about earlier here in the Midwest, it's
been like living on the sun. Lately. It's been hot
and over in England too, hasn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, we've been going through a heat wave.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, bitwarm because most of do your guys houses over
there even have like air conditioning in it?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Oh no, but to keep heating. So yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
Great stone or brick construction, cement construction, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah, that's range.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah. I learned that from James two weeks ago when
we were uh recording an episode of his his show.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah. Either, So we've got fans all over the house.
It's great, love it.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
It's what I'm holiday somewhere else too, to get out
or there's breeze.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
And wind and sometimes to like go to the beach.
I'm not even sure sometimes where like does England actually
have any like sand beaches or is it all like
rock beaches? Plenty of Yeah, because I was gonna say,
what knowing of any David Tennant police or procedural shows,

(05:28):
every county goes to is on the water. But it's
always like clips and rocks, So that's what it seems like.
I mean, I know England in itself, the whole UK
is a big island in itself, but I was I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Sure about.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
That must be kind of like I'm going to the coast,
which one pick a direction. Just don't go in to
part north, I guess goes south until you hit the water,
trying to think of what else we have? Is there
anything before we get into any kind of group discussion
of is anyone here actually seen Superman yet?

Speaker 7 (06:08):
No?

Speaker 5 (06:09):
Godd I have you.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
Just quick you guys spoiler free liked it, didn't like it, It.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Was it, It was okay.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Times I've heard people say that it's a little too
James Gunny.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Yeah, it was like, uh, Superman meets Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 8 (06:32):
Yeah, which I feel like is to be expected, which
you know for some people isn't isn't bad.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
But I always kind of had a thorn in my
side about this iteration of Superman, even though I got
curious enough to go see it, Uh, because Henry Cavill
wasn't playing Superman anymore, and the was I forget the
actor's name, and he did it decent enough job. It's

(07:02):
just it was it was a bit too campy.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, yeah, you could see some direct sort of comparisons
to some Guardian scenes. But it was fun. But I
just Crypto just did it for me completely.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Oh yeah, let's not say too much because no, no,
I know Haley hasn't seen it yet, and like myself,
she's a big fan of the Canines. So you you
will love Crypto.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
I have no doubt you, Crypto.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I'm liking that that that's leading what the fact like
towards that fact instead of it being like have you
seen John Wick be like, oh no, I don't want
to go that route when it comes to the dogs
and stuff like that. So I've known some people that
have been like, I mean, I love the John Wick franchise,
but rewatching it that scene, although it's not too great,
it's still the sentiment of it all. It's like, my god,

(08:07):
but that's you know, they unwoke the sleeping dragon and
he ended up just.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Dogs or pats or iguanas or whatever they have that
they love. Or yeah, I mean, you know, I've got
these snake videos on my algorithm right now. I don't
know what's going on sneaking people like it. I don't
know the snake guy. Okay, whatever, no, just me, you
will have it now.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Well, we watched I watched John Wick the first one
with my wife having already seen it, and I warned her.
I said, I didn't tell her exactly what was going
to happen, but I told her it was it was
going to be a bit disturbing. And when it happened,
she kind of looked at me and she had that

(08:58):
angry look on her face. I just wait and then
one hundred and seventeen, I think it is kills later.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
Yeah, in the movie.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Doesn't even seem like enough quite Frankly.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Yeh, that's funny you say that, because that's exactly what
she said, you know, seems appropriate.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Know that scene in the chop shop with Likezamo where
he finds out everything from uh, I stole the car
from Game of Thrones and he's six plates and he goes, wait, wait,
time out what and he go he goes, you're a moron, seriously,
and then he's making calls like yeah, we just we
started a war here, and.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
His father and the father of you know the guy
that that did it, was like you did what.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, He's like, oh great, okay, let's okay. But it's
definitely not as bad as one movie I loved. But
I can never ever watch again because the end of
it is Marley and Me.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
I will never watch that movie. You know what a
dog movie ruined me? Was my dog skip?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, when I was a child, and I'm not watching
more sad dog movies because of it, thank you.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Speaking of that, I saw that one of the is
it Paramount plus is remaking or turning Kujo into a
mini series or a movie a remake, and I'm like, no,
don't you know Rabbit Saint Bernard's don't make that. I
mean yet it was. It was traumatizing enough when I
was a kid watching Kujo, and it's definitely Stephen King,

(10:34):
but it's just like he has a million other things
to pick from him.

Speaker 5 (10:37):
No remake Kujo, come.

Speaker 9 (10:39):
On, traumatize some new kids, Yeah, I mean seriously.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
So well, they're finally doing a live action or a
movie of the Long Walk. Speaking of Stephen King, no,
I've heard of that. Oh it's it's it's like a
dystopian future kind of along the lines of Hunger Games,

(11:08):
kind of I'm out and well, no, no, no, no,
the kids aren't killing each other in this one.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Is something else killing the kids?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, yeah, And it's it's still though, because I had
high hopes when I've always thought Stephen King's stuff, especially
with how they were going to plan on doing every
start and stop. And we've talked about this on the
show because it's one of the things we don't talk
about is the Dark Tower because the.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Movie it was never a movie.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Them making it into Paramount plus when he got the
rights of pretty much all the King King stuff, It's like, great,
they could do justice to it. Until I watched the
stand and was like, this is god awful. Like they
made they made the Stephen or the Gary Sonice version
from like nineteen ninety look like I mean, it was excellent,

(11:56):
but this new version of it, they strung it out
and stuff was It's just like Stephen King's stories when
they jump around in the timeline and then it comes
back because it's telling deep stories. Keep it that way.
Don't do certain things they did where they were not
going back in time and they were using It's sort
of like with the two It movies, both movies you know,

(12:20):
the Past and the future in the book were taking
place simultaneously, so the big ending showdown was it was
just like you'd see some stuff from the past, and
then the president in the past and the president press
and then the guy that directed them said that when
he was done, he wanted to make like a five
hour cut that was more in line with the book,
where you'd see a little bit from the first movie,

(12:40):
and then a little bit from the second movie and
a little bit from the first again to make it
seem because it's not just all happening again at the
second half of the novel. But I have no faith
in Paramount Plus or early anyone with Stephen King's stuff,
because I think his track record with any of his novels,
even going back to his early I mean the eighties
stuff was pretty good, but his track record is is

(13:04):
He's the reason that the phrase never judge a book
by its movie became popular is because Stephen King's movies
had been so terrible when the books were so good.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
So did anybody see the Life of Chuck? I did not.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
No other thing is that yet? Over here? Oh okay,
the trailer trailer looks looks, no idea what it's about Hittles.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Isn't it. It's I think it's like a not a
scary isn't Mark Hamill in that too?

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I believe you're right.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
He's also in The Long Walk that's coming up. Okay,
he plays one of the big bads.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Which he's good at.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
I tell you what movies got I got coming up
that I can't wait for that comes out on the
twenty fifth, and that is Happy Gilmore too, yeah, and
then also that Fantastic Four Movies coming out to wait,
you know which one you'll be saying first, that's very obvious. Oh,
probably Happy Gobard because it's not on Netflix, so I have
to go to the theaters for that. So yeah, that's

(14:14):
the one thing. I mean, we were talking about this one.
I think it was done so weird, so fun where
it seems like nowadays, I just saw that Leela one
stitches on? Is it like you could stream it? And
then one of the other like I've got what are
the other movies that it's pretty much like, uh oh,

(14:36):
minecraft movie is already like on HBO Max and stuff
now is coming to streaming and it's like it's in
the theaters and then you could purchase it to rent
at home, and then it's streaming, and then they're like, Okay,
now we're gonna put out some physical media. Maybe because
as much as I used to love physical media for things,

(14:56):
it just seems like it's almost not not even like
an option anymore, except for if you're like a Diarhart.
We got a friend of ours, Barry Harmon, who seems
like he buys physical media for everything, which is great.
I love some of the stuff, like I get like
the Star Wars Steel books, because watching stuff on four
K disc looks a little bit better than streaming it

(15:17):
in four K just because of you know, degradation and
you know you might have a slow internet speed or
something like that.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
But I do like that though, because I.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Remember back in the day when stuff you'd watch it
and the theaters should come out and then it go away,
and then I think it was phantom menace, like the
the vhs didn't even come out for like eight months
or something like that after the movie came out, and
then deed it was finally like, oh we can watch
it again, So now to be able to see I

(15:50):
think that's one of the reasons why too, the going
to the theater experience isn't as you know, there's certain
movies I definitely always want to go see in the
see them right away. But if it's a question of
oh do I want to see this, but then it
goes oh that does so much better on streaming, Yeah,
because it's coming out six weeks later, because you know,

(16:12):
they're not it's not staying in the box office or
not staying in the theaters, and people aren't just like, uh, well,
we'll see how it is. And then because I've I've
had it happen a couple of times, I want it
so bad to go see Sinners.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Oh that's the one.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Sinners is now streaming on HBO Max or Paramount Plus.
Like it's yeah, so it's like you can just watch it,
so I'm like, okay, cool, I'll watch it.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, But going to the theater is like, you know,
I know it's not everybody can't do it, but you know,
you go see it in the theater and it's the
whole thing.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Quite Frankly, the popcorn at home is just not the same.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh my gosh, I did get a mission impossible intoity
popcorn bucket for a fraction of the price. Thank you
very much. I waited long enough and I'm obsessed with it.
I just needed to share that right here.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I thought you were going to apparently you got the
galect this bucket eighty bucks.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
No, the Nity bucket comes with the cruciform key and
you can actually put it together and it's metal and
it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's cool. I think that's the main thing now between
like AMC and Regal are fighting now for like who
can make the most or like I just saw one
that was I think it's Regals Superman. Popcorn bucket is
an old school like street paper box. Then you pull
the thing open and then that's where the popcorn is.

(17:31):
Like how if you buy a newspaper on the street
back in the day, but then you could also it
comes with like four or six different newspapers that you
could change to the front of it. That's for the
It's that the Daily Bugle? Is it? No Daily Bugle?
Spider Man? So, but some of these ones, I'm looking
at it going like, oh my god, it's just people
that had to collect people that collect those people.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
People. If I like how you amended that hold on, Brian, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Don't have a single popcorn bucket.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So I know you started to go down the people
who collect things round and I was like.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Well people, or more, I mean, godspeed to you.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I have something that I can actually get stuff first
hand instead of having to go through secondary markets and
pay like a markup because I've already's seen some of
these came back up. No, but some of the galactic
ones on eBay are going for like two hundred bucks
and that minecraft like chicken Jack.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You want, say, couple live in the middle where if
you wait long enough and they still have the buckets,
you can pay eighteen bucks for it, like I did.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well even where I am. Some of the places here
because they switched to the movies over so much, they
decided that the only thing I got was the Revenge
of the Sith twentieth Anniversary. I got the cup because
the cup was cool and it was five bucks or
ten bucks, but then you get the drink and if
you refill it, so it wasn't like it was a
throwaway thing but somebody's popcorn. But I just love seeing

(18:56):
them because one of the Facebook groups i'man keeps like
up dating showing or I'm like that.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Group for people who collect things.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
Uh that mister fantastic one with the stretchy thing around it,
and I'm certain it just looks wrong.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
That's thee I only wanted one, like it's gonna be
my new popcornble because Nathan was like, oh, are you
gonna take it and have them fill it up? And
I'm like, no, I don't eat that much popcorn at
the movie theater. I can't even eat the small bag.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
I'm like, it's for a home, it's for the Yeah,
it's stupid, Okay, I'm trying to think I was gonna or.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I probably ask you guys, Karen and Todd, because I
know Karen before we started. It's been about a year
and a half now since we've had it, because we
started time you mind me talk in December, right when
the sixtieth anniversary stuff, the David Tennant stuff was coming back,
and that was your first podcasting experience, right.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
It was indeed, so oh I took a bit persuade.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I remember, I remember when we were talking about it,
and then I facetimeed you that one time and it
was just like a little bit of I think shock
on both our ends and then we're just like, see,
it's just just me when it comes to our podcast
and stuff, it's just like people sitting around.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Todd Haley can do it. Anybody can do it.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Come on guys, being your friend.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
But in that time, I mean now, when it comes
to podcasting and stuff like that, I mean, it's like
old hat to you now, isn't it. I mean because
especially I think with you though, Todd, if you don't
know she has when we do rundowns of episodes for
Doctor Who, she's got notes that have notes that have notes,
and it's awesome. I mean it's like she has so

(20:55):
much information because I mean, you get a lot more
stuff that is relatively available over there for the show
we're here, you'd have to dig a little bit deeper.
But it's just like, oh my god, she comes so
prepared for a podcast where we really don't have.

Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, I feel a bit lost today. I've got no notes.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I know you want a little nervous, Karen.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
I've just woken up.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
But that's the thing I mean, so now, I mean
you don't.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I mean, it's just like if someone you know would
caves anyone want to come on to you know, like
once some of those pod like Gallifrey want or what's
the one time Lord in a pocket radio free scar
or the Doctor's like, hey, I could join. I've been
podcasting for a year and a half now I'm old.
It's like.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
Yeah, so no, but this is bad because this is
with friends, So I don't. Yeah, I think I think
my knowledge would be shown up a little bit on
those kinds into programs if I'm if I'm honest, I'm
a I don't got the knowledge.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Really, I just know what I like, and I like
told me about what I like with friends.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
So you've just described podcasting.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
You're perfect at it.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, I mean, we couldn't. And that's the one thing
the consonant was is that we always want to make
sure even though there's times, especially this past season, where
I think we only had out of the eight episodes
that we did one where all four of us were on.
But the continent is we got to have Karen on
because she's the you know, she's our man on the street.
Yeah she is. We we push stuff back when she's

(22:38):
not available if we are, because we need to have
her on the show because it it gives us a
street cred to have, you know, an actual British movie
on the show and set up. It's like, oh, those
damn Americans talking about it.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
So it's ungrateful colonials have just celebrated our Independence Day.

Speaker 5 (22:59):
I know.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I was saying, we got a big one.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
We got two fifty coming up next year, don't we.
Because I remember a little bit from the the bi
centennial when I was like three years two and a
half years old, just like, oh my god, you thought
some of the people were bad. Now it's like everything
was puking up red, white and blue all over the place.
So yeah, anyways, on that same note, you Todd, what

(23:26):
what's your thoughts on that? Because I know you've had
something you had some experience beforehand anyway, doing like the
Q and a Jimmy over on Rebel Force Radio and stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
But my first, my but my first actual podcast experience
was on the Babu Freaks, okay, and in June or
July at twenty one. It was after we all first
met at the UH at the Galloping Ghost back in

(23:56):
July at twenty one.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Okay, so that was like right after I'm trying to oh,
that was like right after right.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
When, right when this all started. I I I I
remember standing in the arcade and and you talking to
to us about, uh, this this new show where we
read books and and comics that tie into geeky TV

(24:24):
shows and movies and blobby bloody blah blah blah. But
it sounded really interesting. And I, you know, up until
that point, I hadn't been uh too much into the
Marvel side of things and the and the and the comics.
And uh, I said, you know what, I'll I'll give
it a shot, because as much as I'd like to

(24:48):
think so, life doesn't just run on Star Wars alone.
It's it's it's been cool kind of getting into and
and reading the comics and hearing you guys go back
over them. I actually a question occurred to me, and

(25:10):
I'll pose this to both you, Brian and Haley. Do
you your listenership do you find that they listen to
the recaps of the comics first and then go read them,
or do they read the comics and then listen to
the to the recaps afterwards?

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Is well, I could tell you, I could.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
You could probably ask that question to Karen because she's
one of our most vocal listeners.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
So I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Do you usually read the comics as preparation for us
talking about them, or then listen to us talk about
them and then read them because sort of like us
doing those primers is like we read the comics so
you don't have to type thing. But it's also cool
to read the comics too, So.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
Not so much at the moment, so just unfortunately don't
have the time I used to look forward when you
post it up, well, the next comics are going to be,
and this is what we're going to look at next,
and that would be my homework.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
So we get like we get a solid like two
hundred some immediate downloads, but then I think we get
a lot more people after stuff, and I think people
discover it after things come out too, which is totally great.
You know, it's like because a lot of people, I
think it's spoilery, and so if that's how they feel,

(26:37):
they're not going to listen till after the Yeah, we've
had property.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
We've had times too where people would be like what
was oh when we were doing our primer for Thunderbolts,
and then like Ashley Coffin came out and said, hey,
if you listen to this, there is a big spoiler
possibly for one of the characters in the movie, and
then it turned out to be one hund a person correct,
because it was just like, yeah, most people don't know that.

(27:04):
You know, if you haven't seen it, you guys have
both seen Thunderbolts, right, yes, so that you know Bob
him with Sentry and the Void like was a thing,
so him having like three personalities most people because there
was a character.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
That was the reason why we talked about.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
That character, because we mostly do stuff where we try
to talk about a portion of it, like for iron Heart,
it was the Hood because the Hood was a character
that most people don't know at all. Which, by the way,
we finally finished it Saturday night and the big reveal,
which I knew. You guys both know what the big

(27:42):
reveal is, right yes, in iron Heart, so.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's okay, go ahead, It's not gonna not going to
ruin it. For me. I'm still working through the Hood
comics and stuff. I have watched it.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Well. First off, it took about three scenes in till
I finally said, you do know who that actor is?
She's like I've been trying to figure out and I'm
just like he was my opinion, I was like my
wife and my sister basically, oh my god, that's Sasha
Barrick Cohen. And then when he comes out, and that

(28:18):
was the best reaction too. That's awesome when he's like,
oh my god, because everyone thought because of the comics
that it was he was the Hood was being controlled
by Dormomu like it is in the primer. But then
when he comes out and he was just like, dormomo
could what do you say to something like Dormomo couldn't
even lick my shiny blank hole.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
And he's like no, I'm yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
But then he looks at me and he's like, I'm
a fisto and she's like, am I supposed to know
who you are? Like she was totally like aghast and
then just like and then Liz literally said, oh m
f G, like said that out loud, like so confirmed
finally after four years, you know. But it was just like,
that was the thing that I had spoiled it because

(29:06):
Variety had pointed out all it said was Shasha bir
and Cohen shows up in the MCU as a character
that's been teased. I'm like, well, thanks for giving me,
you know. A day after the finale came out that
I just put two and two together. I'm like, yeah,
it's got to be Mephisto. So but but yeah, So
going back to like the Primer thing, I find and

(29:27):
I don't know if you see this, Hayley, Like yesterday
we get on I think it was, Yeah, on Sundays,
I normally get an email from Speaker giving us our
weekly numbers and we averaged you know a certain number,
and then yesterday I get it and it like doubled
for the week, and I go, are people just super

(29:49):
because I'm like, do we wait a second, do we
not release No, we release episodes.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Why did it double?

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Because everyone's listening to Superman the Primer And I go
back in a lot of our back episodes this past week,
we're like getting them. The Christmas and the Stars thing
got like seventy downloads in this past week.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
That was you listening to it over and over again.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
No, it wasn't me at all. That was the thing.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Click click clean, unload down undownload.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I've actually had people tell me the're like in our
Friends with the Star Wars and even people that listen
to Rebel FORCET Radio, like I have that podcast you
know marked, because that's the only place online where you
could actually listen to Christmas and the Stars because it's
not available for streaming. It's not on Spotify, it's not
available on Apple Music or anything. You have to get

(30:38):
go to our So I'm sure in Christmas next year,
if we like we you know, re release it or
put it out there saying hey, this is here, we'll
probably get another like thousand dollars downloads. I know it's weird,
but it's it's definitely it's definitely not me.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
So it's one of my favorite.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
But it's cool.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
I mean that was the reason why we made it
EPISOD and I think I even said it. I wanted
to be able to listen to this on on my
phone and there's there's not a millile anywhere else.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
So here, you guys go. So yeah, it's it's cool
with the way that the.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Show has expanded from I mean, like I said, the
novel concept, which is how we started off, what we
wanted to do with Dune, we've done twice.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I think what we have not that many.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Well, we've we did both halfs of Dune with Jay Scotty,
where before I think you read oh no, he was
he understand he was on the second one, and then
we did the one was still I want to see
I got the Google sheet. This would actually be our
two hundred and first episode, but the fourth episode that
we ever recorded back in July eighteenth, almost four years

(31:52):
ago to this day with Sue Hair, where him and
I talked about the Rise of Kyoshi novel, which is
a prequel to.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
The Avatar The Last Airbender.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But it was pretty much I think I looked at
it and I don't even know if I still had
that file, So it's probably got to be in my
I've got an external hard drive with all of our stuff.
But they're actually turning that into a movie for whoever
owns one or so that would be an HBO Max
or maybe it's Netflix is doing whoever has the animated

(32:26):
stuff for Avatar is actually making that novel into a movie.
So I'm like, uh, I think if we're going to
use that as a like, that's gonna be our forever
lost episode if we ever do it again, I think we'll.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Just rerecord it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
My god, because because the way that the show, the
way that that part actually happened was I remember I
forgot exactly who I think I actually got it from
Matthew Fox, whereas we were describe a novel and one
of his buddies would try to pick up on the

(33:01):
points from what we were talking about. So if he
understood everything from us, really it was a star it
was not in his Star Wars show. And so I'm like,
it's a cool concept to be able to like have
two people that have read something explain it. That was
back when we were doing a lot of stuff. But
that the only reason why I didn't like that too
is so linear, and it's almost like how when we
do we do the sort of same process and the

(33:24):
Sacred Jedi text where we talk about a novel but
we don't talk about it the beginning of chapter one
to being into the end of chapter two, we talk
about it and then we could jump back and forth
because it's basically we did the whole process of we're
reading this and discussing it. Like the people who are
listening to it have probably read it as well, but

(33:44):
if they haven't, they could pick up on key points
to it. They might not get the full story in
order and stuff like that. But it's always just like
I think with the novel stuff, it's a little more.
It's best for you to read or listen to it anyway,
because you get more in debt with that than for
us talking about it for an hour and fifteen minutes.
Because it doesn't always work like that. So I don't
know how Todd when we're talking about that stuff, how

(34:05):
do you usually prepare for like a novel conversation?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
Well, first and foremost, I read the book.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
It's pertinent for us.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yes, we're doing the actual podcast, but.

Speaker 4 (34:24):
How do I prepare? Uh, it depends on the novel
that we're doing, Like if it's uh like Fatal Alliance.
I had to read that twice because it had been
such a long time, and well, by the time we
actually find time in the schedule to do that episode.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
I was just thinking, I'm again, like, wait, is that
the one we haven't done yet. It's like, yeah, that's right,
we haven't. We haven't done Fatal Alliance yet.

Speaker 9 (34:54):
That's our next thing.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
But like, for example, when we did the Bane trilogy,
I have read that trilogy so many times that even
though I did reread it, I really didn't need to
because I've read it so many times. Same with Plaguis.
But generally, if it's something that I haven't reread a lot.

(35:19):
I you know, go through and read it once and
then I'll go find a plot summary on Wikipedia and
just make my notes from that, if I make notes
at all. I've had varying levels of success when I

(35:41):
prepare for podcasts, you know, to the issue we were
talking about before. There's been times when I'm you know,
really prepared and I've got a plan in order, and
this really happened a lot on the Q and a

(36:03):
Jimmy Jimmy and I get on Mike and it's like
tangents abound, and you know, sometimes it's hard to get
back on track, and then preparation isn't really the greatest.
But I I I just try to be prepared enough
without sounding over prepared.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
That's true. I mean there's so much that I usually
do that too, as I'll listen to it and get
it done and then go on Wikipedia and get like
the plot points and write the names of the main
characters down. And I totally even forgot about it too.
I'm looking to see where it is our thirty fourth episode.

(36:46):
You were the first person that was ever on the
show as like a co host when Haley wasn't on
there when we did the phase one of the Higher.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
And I completely botched the love you three hundred line.
I remember that because.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I have that trademark, so you said you have to know.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
It was like the force reached up and grabbed my
vocal cords and said, no, you can't say that.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
He can choke on my trademark phrase.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
And now he's like going to therapy to try to
overcome that guilt of.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Doing no three hundred, three hundred, three hundred.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Oh no, what happened, Todd? He just blipped out of
the screen all of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Where'd he go?

Speaker 5 (37:34):
Actually?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I think that we probably, even though we keep talking
about Fatal Alliance, our next time you wind me talk
might even be just a full on high republic speaking text. Yeah,
so just like that's what I say, Tom, okay text, Sorry.

Speaker 4 (37:52):
What do I have to go back and read?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Keep calm and don't panic? Oh yeah, I take our
Jedi text to get over. And I think we're going
to have a whole section on talking about the awesomeness
of Geode. So just to give you.

Speaker 9 (38:13):
If you know, you know, you know, you know about
talking about redemption arc.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Though well, okay, without spoiling it for those of you know,
our audience or the audience.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Okay, that actual novel that he did his stuff and
was way more than three months old, so we should
be pretty good. Someone's gonna get.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
To Yeah, he went out like a boss. I have
to admit it.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
I will.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
I will sit here behind this microphone and fully admit
that that damn rock made me proud.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
So Karen, This character, Geode is literally a rock clab
of rock who He has the characteristic sort of like
weeping angels in the sense that he never moves unless
no one's looking at it. It seems like all of
a sudden, everyone's.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Like where how did he get over there? Like it?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
But he's a he's a sentient boulder pretty much.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
He's who he sort of.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
He doesn't speak, No, he doesn't have any FACI ladies
like you wouldn't believe.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
Oh yeah, that was weird though, Hey.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
You know, and there was there there was one scene
it wasn't was it in this not that novel where
he had his hero moment where he was looking at
mountains like lovingly.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I mean, he's gonna be able to see me. It's
like maybe it's who knows, but it.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Wasn't the fact that he was seeing it's the fact
that he was looking at mountains like he was looking
at a Playboy center for.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Mountains.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I was just going to say something that the context
of it could have been taking so many different ways.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Anyways, this is a PG show, so.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well, well, I'm trying to think what else we can
I mean, do you guys have any like Karen and Todd,
any favorite moments or like just dots of stuff like like,
oh my god, I remember, just like memories of stuff.
I mean, if you don't, that's fine, we can just
nd if we're not memorable too.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Yeah, do you want to go first, Karen? Or because
I've got something top of mind? It was the the
whole Moonnight coverage. It was. It was because you know,
your your recap and the the primers that just selected
that actually got me interested in that character. And I

(40:44):
really wasn't disappointed. I mean that that show was was awesome.
I know that our friend, our fellow Jedi Council member
h James probably wasn't a fan, given that it was
Oscar Isaac's and he's not a fan of oscars, but
it was it was really it was a really good

(41:06):
primer into that show, because if I hadn't to listen
to it and read the comics, I probably would have
been totally lost because of all the character shifts and
everything else. And it was that's one that really kind

(41:28):
of stands out in my mind, you know, over the
last couple hundred episodes. Is that that really got me
into it, into that show, and also the talk about Loki.
It was a series that I hadn't really given a shot,
but I went back and watched season one while season

(41:53):
two was dropping, and then just rolled right into season
two and I was in love and Your Guys is
a review and coverage that really did it justice.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
I thank you.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
I think Moonlight is a good call.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
I totally agree just the coverage of that, but also
is probably the first because like I've never read a
comic before You Guys started up, and that's probably the
first comic run that I read all the way through.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
Because of the coverage. So yeah, the shout on that
one totally random one. I think it was the coverage
of now you know, I'm like for forgetting names America, America, yeah, America.

Speaker 7 (42:47):
Yeah, And it was just it was the first time
it was actually for me personally when I was sort
of like thinking more into the character and what was
going to happen in the next episode.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
I'm telling you, Brian, next issue. So yeah, just and yeah,
just the fun ones like Devil Dinosaur, just things that
I would never have read before. It's really hard to

(43:25):
pinpoint one. But you know, as I say, I'm just
your friendly stalker. Just they're a great.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, I'll piggyback on that. There's there's certainly a lot
of things in uh in the comic universe. I focus
on Marvel. I kind of leave d c uh to
the side because they've reset those universes so many times

(43:55):
and it's it's hard hard to follow. But you got,
this show has definitely gotten me opened my eyes to
things that I wouldn't have actually spent bandwidth on before
because hearing the show and oh that sounds interesting, you know,

(44:18):
things like I mean, she Hulk was okay, but it
wasn't great. Yeah, it wasn't great, but it wasn't terrible.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
No, it got is Matt Murdock for the first time
and no back, so like an action and stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
So it was I am so mad at myself over
the last several years not having given Daredevil a chance
before and when you guys started doing the coverage of
the new series, I was like, you know what, I'm

(44:56):
going to go back and start watching this year.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
And the Netflix one.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
Yes, and I'm now on season three, Like episode my
least favorite season episode three. Yeah, it's kind of starting out,
you know, Matt dealing with his hearing issues and now he's.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
He's always dealing with something.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, he was dealing with the he was dealing with
the aftermath of the Defenders with him and.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Yeah, well yeah, yeah. In the last episode, it was
Foggy and Karen were at the at Foggy's families was
at like a deli or a convenience store or whatever,
and Karen is convinced, well she has evidence that that

(45:52):
Matt is still alive, and Foggy wasn't having it. And
that's that's the last episode of Watch. So I really
liked it. And again, it was something that I wouldn't
have necessarily laid eyes on before if it weren't for
listening to this show.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
That's awesome.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
I loved that.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
That's the fun part even for us, like we read
things we wouldn't probably pick up except for their making
the movie or the show about it. So we're like, well,
we're committed to this mission, so now we have to
go down this road.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Like but I give all the props in the world
to the fact that Haley picks out like one hundred
percent of the comics that we read as primers. A
lot of it is they they a lot of it,
I'm assuming is they talk about what could be Like
the Matt Fraction run for Hawkeye was obvious because of
Kate Bishop being and introduced. But going back to what

(46:52):
both you guys have said, and I've loved it before
because it was always one of my favorites, and I
was going to suggest doing the Matt Leamir run of
Light Jeff Lamir, sorry, Jeff Lamer run a Moonlight because
it was so out there and that's how the characters
and I remember, We're watching these shows at two in
the morning because I was doing the midnight moon Night

(47:13):
stuff for the MCU cast, So I'm recording at you know,
two forty five in the morning. I texted or I
don't know if I sent you a message or you
sent me a message, like right after it happened, right
before we were recording where the end of the one
episode where he ends up in the mental hospital, and
the stage between us was pretty much they just went
full of mirror on the show, which was awesome. And

(47:36):
next thing, you know, we were like I was telling
people at work, like go on Google randomly look up
Moonnight podcast source pages was in like Google top ten
lists to see there.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Was something about Moonnight. Moonnight was like a yeah, it
was like center huge for us because it was just
like I think just because the character was not as
well known, you know, and the wider of people watching things,
rather not comic readers necessarily, but people who've watched stuff,
and because the show was so wacky and well received that, Yeah,

(48:13):
that was a good time back then.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, we were getting crazy time. We were getting like
four to five times downloads per week, Like we were
getting in a week downloads that we would have like
in a month beforehand. So like when we look back
as far as we can like on the spectrum of
like our downloads for that time, it was like April
of twenty two till like.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
June, it was just like a peak.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
But it's never come back down below those numbers we
had before that, So it's always been a consistent it's
not like we were getting the five, six, seven, eight
thousand downloads a month now, but we're not like you know,
going back to like the two hundred.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
But now Midnight episodes still gather downloads, like it's very interesting.
I mean a lot of our episodes do. But like
I consistently see the Moonnight primers in there.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
The one thing I don't like about the way that
our tracking on Spreaker goes is we can only go
back twenty four months, but we can see our total downloads. Yeah,
you can go back two years. Yeah, because right now
it was like the beginning of July of twenty three
is the last time you can see it. You can
see how many downloads we've had since then. But a

(49:23):
lot of this and we I don't think we've said
it in a while, but it's always true. We always
I mean, I got we always got to thank Jeff
and Ashley at dmcu cast for giving us a platform.
I mean they still, you know, uh, not sponsored the show,
but you know they put there we don't have to
pay for some of our stuff because we're just using
it piggybacking and on their accounts, because they're just like, well, hey,

(49:46):
it's part of the network too. I mean, we're we
get out there and we're able to get our publicity
through them. Plus Haley is a rock star where she's
got like seventy shows in the channel now, and it
seems like.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Every time I turned around, I see join Haley and
Ashley for I hate.

Speaker 9 (50:03):
This watch or hey, we're what can I say, very
very bad?

Speaker 4 (50:10):
You're you were like, you know, the Nick Cannon of podcasting.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
We just watching stuff we like.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Anyways, I don't know, I think we can. I think
we're gonna get fifty minutes out of it. This is
the least prepared. I literally had no idea what we're
going to talk about. Started off random and then it
went back to that. I mean, it's more just like
a you know, hey, you're celebrating. I don't even know
how many podcasts actually make it to two hundred episodes,
let alone the fact that we're still doing it and

(50:41):
we make time and we have you know, there's no
like it doesn't seem like it's I gotta do this
now for the podcast because it's it's fun. Haley and
I have decided long ago if it for either one
of us, if it doesn't become fun and we don't
want to do it or take some time off, we
will and if we have to take it, we've done

(51:03):
that recently and other times just before, more for scheduling
and availability, because you know, when we took that time
off in June, was it June or May June? We
definitely didn't need to because we had a lot of
content out there. I mean, we're we're not gonna even well,
we've talked about we still have been done our Daredevil
Born Again review in comparison, that's been done for three months.

(51:27):
We're not going to get to Superman for like three
weeks because there's just so much stuff going out there now.
And but if it ever comes to the point where
it feels like it's I mean, I've even said I won't.
If Haley says she doesn't want to do the show anymore,
the show will be done. Not that there's any you know,
like pressure on her, like you always have to do it,
but it's like, I don't, I mean, it's I mean,

(51:49):
I ask Karen, would it feel weird if I was
doing the show with somebody else besides Haley?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I think it would be it wouldn't be the same show.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
No, No, because Haley and I were friends for I
mean we you know, talk about the fact that we
would get in quote unquote trouble together, like on live
streams and on groups, and I mean there's a we
talked about this before. The whole nesting process on the
MCU chat was because Haley and I were spoiling stuff
talking about it. So talking about talking about Mando, and

(52:19):
I think also Nate Muzzy was We're talking about it
and be like, hey, we just watched this. We're like, okay,
we're gonna start nesting stuff for and things.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
Did you spoil the end of season two?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
No, I spoiled that his ship gets blown up.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Oh yeah, that's right. That whole that whole process was
amazing because it was like two days after the crowd
funding on has lab ended for the Razorcrest, they blow
it up on the show. Then this happens with the
nesting thing. It's just like a whole bunch of just
like what is going on in the world.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
It's very funny.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
So but yeah, So it's the fact is that if
it's it, source pages is a Haley and BBK joint,
and that's it. You know, if she's not doing anymore.
We're not doing the show anymore, So I mean, you know,
I love you for that and other reasons, and it's
just that we a lot of times. I mean that's

(53:16):
the reason why I decided to have want to do
the show with her, because she was helping me the
whole time, and then I think it just is like, hey,
well you just do let's just do this, you just
do it with me.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
I was like, sure, remember you addresses, so you will
for therapy.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
No end in sight. It's just, you know, it's been
so much fun and like getting back into reading is
what it helped me do because you know, I just
fell off of that my twenties, like you just do,
I think, And god, it's been fun and getting to
meet people like Todd and Karen and James and Brandon
and Ryan and Faz with all of the people we've
had on the show, like we just never I think

(53:57):
could have imagined what it would really become. And it's
you know, it's not like it's some big old show,
but it feels like the impact is there because we've
reached people and that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Yeah, compared to like I could see just how many
people listen to it compared to like other shows that
I know numbers for and even like are that's so
weird so fun that we release separately, but it's on
the same speaker, Freed. I could see how many downloads
are doing that and it's nowhere compared to like what
source pages does. But that's just because it was I

(54:29):
think it was at the time we filled the niche
that a niche that needed to be filled with the
whole you know, all this Marvel stuff, and there's no
one doing anything with the comics, so stepped in and
excited to do it. And here we are a little
over four years later, two hundred episodes and.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Good to be Sunshine.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, we ain't slowing down yet. We still got a
lot to get especially with how much stuff is out there.
Are Like I said, if you guys can see our
Google seet with this stuff that's coming up, the stuff
that's there, it's just like we've that's you know. Luckily
for us, they pushed Secret Wars back there because we
still got to but they go.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
With that and a lot of Secret Wars to get
through people.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I've read every single issue.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
It's such an interesting journey, is that.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
It is so weirdar and weird, and I like it,
you know, I'm here for it.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Yeah, and that's why, you know, all the pandas could agree.
It's all. It's a it's a great place to geek
out with like like minded people and just you know,
have fun and bullshit about comics and whatever, like we've
been doing for ever. Anyways, So Karen Todd, you got

(55:44):
any partying wisdom before we uh sign off and let
you I know, Karen probably is ready to go back
to sleep because it's one o'clock in the morning there now,
so well.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
With her accent, it's going to sound a lot smarter
than anything I would have to say, So.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
I don't think my accent would be close to smoke.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
But roach.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
No continue.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Yeah, like I said, as long as there's continuing to
be Doctor Who, which we don't know when it's coming back,
but I know we'll be covering the unit show that's
coming up, and even if we come randomly, do some
if you want to cover even some big finish stuff
or either like the novels, or just to keep it

(56:35):
to where we're not going to wait three years or whatever,
and whenever they decide, we know RTD says it's coming back.
It's just a matter of where and went.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
So, well, we might find something out in San Diego
because I know there's going to be something there for Unit.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
So that's going to I think that's going to be
the biggest news because I think doctor Who's by the
only one that's going to oh hey, George Lucas is
going to say, what are you talking about? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (57:00):
Everyone else what? Everyone else is not going to st
hgel this year. It's weird.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
He was like, it's a perfect time for me to appear.
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Yeah, I can't do, George.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
It's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Jason Swanks, one of the hosts of Rabal Force Radio.
So anyways, Karen, you know we love you. Thank you
so much for all you do, and thank you for
just being our friend. And you know, we keep our
chat in the timey wymy chat active to where we
just you know, you're sending us random things that we
can laugh at and convers I mean, it's it's also

(57:41):
great to just stay in touch with everyone too, so
so you know we love you for that too.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
So thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
You're welcome. What about you, SuDS, You got any final
parting advice or you know, don't forget to drink your
oval teine.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
Son of a bitch me commercial. No, I just uh
to anybody listening, Uh, make sure you uh you enjoy
the show, read the comics, go go see the movies
it because it's these days it seems like your your

(58:18):
entertainment is a is an omni channel type of experience.
To borrow a phrase from the retail world, Uh, it's
you know, all encompassing and you know, whether it's comics
or novels, or TV shows or or movies, they've got

(58:39):
it covered its source pages. So make sure you keep listening.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
I love that, So thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
All right, Hayley, you got anything to wrap up with,
just like, you know, other than what we've already said.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll just keep doing this,
I guess. Yeah, five more years, as long as there
as long as there's more episodes about Yeah, as.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Long as there's movies and TV shows that are coming out,
we'll probably keep doing it. It's time, time permitting, so
and life permitting. So all righty, So well, thank you
for everyone listening to this episode. We love your feedback,
and Haley will tell you how to get in touch
with us in the multiple ways it's available.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yeah, you can email us at Spark Podcast at gmail
dot com. You can follow us on our socials. We're
on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, and that's where we post
our reading lists on what's coming up. So I'll be
doing that shortly since we have more new content coming out.
And then check out all of the shows on the
network at Strandedpanda dot com.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
And speaking of shows, we get our Sparks Podcast Buddies list,
which are shows that we think you should listen to
because they're cool and we like them and we think
you would like them too. The links and names are
in our show notes, but I'll give you a quick rundown.
It is a Crusted by Frost, a mighty four Dan Andy,
and you have questions, commute to the podcast Segabits Mocktails
from the Cantina. Rubber First Radio presents The bob Oufreaks,

(01:00:11):
Jack Kirby, So Weird, So Fun and the Star Wars
Wild Universe, which is hosted by our very own and
very much missed this episode James Hewings where he talks about,
oh just what Star Wars you do and how you
star wars in your everyday life.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
So and you, Todd, you and James have stuff coming up.
You should tell the people.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Yes, I'm not sure when he's going to release it,
but we do have a fairly involved discussion and maybe
once he edits out, those infamous tangents will be at
about ninety minutes talking about books four, five, and six

(01:00:53):
in the Fate of the Jedi series.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Oh nice.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
That was one of those that I hadn't read the
series in a while, but I had read it a
bunch of times, and I was able to once I
centered myself and what happened in which book, I was
able to just have the discussion right off the top
of my head, and we get in some good stuff.

(01:01:19):
So when when he drops that, I'm sure Brian and
Haley will we'll promote it here and you can hear
these lovely dulcet tones.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And that's the one that pretty much focuses a lot
on have a lot, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
So cool?

Speaker 5 (01:01:34):
Yes, alrighty well, I would say.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
Pretty much what everyone's also said. Thank you so much
for listening, Thank you so much for still being here,
all of our listeners and just everyone, and just keep
on listening, and so again for the for Karen and
Sosh decided to join us, and James and Liz, who
have been sorely missed until next week when we record.
Remember two, be excellent to each other and never judge

(01:02:02):
a book by its movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Love you three hundred You guys.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
Got any party things you want to say?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Thank you for listening to Source Pages a reading collective,
a proud member of the Stranded Panda Network. If you
would like to contact us, you can email Spark podcast
at gmail dot com that's Spark with a C, or
follow us on Twitter at source pages Cast. For this
and other great shows, you can visit Strandedpanda dot com
or join the great community that is the Stranded Panda

(01:02:35):
Chat Facebook group at facebook dot com, slash groups slash
sp chat, and remember, let readings spark your imagination.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Hello that they say Smorgasbord, You did, yes? It in?
I can always cut and paste out and put it
back in whatever I want. I'm the editor, so I
can make everyone here sound like uh anyways,
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