August 12, 2025 • 41 mins
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's a Review and Comparison SPaRC episode! Hayley and Brian finally get some room in the Source Pages schedule to review the recently released Superman, the first feature film from the DCU from James Gunn, and sort of compare it to the comic that was read as a primer. But everyone knows Superman... and his Smallville origin... and that he's really Clark Kent. Right?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dish just in right now on source Pages, we are
going to the Daily Planet a metropolis to check on
to see what is happening with these recent Superman events
as source Pages talks about the movie that has just
recently came out and compared to you the comic that
was read as a primer. But first, bepeppppepeep.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
After these messages, we'll be right back. It's time for
the podcast. Welcome back, my fellow Kryptonians. I'm Hailey Hobbs
(00:42):
and I'm Brian B. Klein And actually I don't know
if we want to be Kryptonians because they have sketch agendas.
And this is source Pages where we read comics and
novels and then watch the things that they are based
on and talk about them like we will today with
Superman yep.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And it just seems like, so what we're doing lately
because we had so much everything dropping get released in
a timeframe, and it's sort of like we have time
to do one show. We could have done like three
shows a week for the last three weeks, but you
know it's not it's not necessary. What happened is is
like after that, like we have another review in comparison
(01:20):
next week, and then after that it's sort of just like, oh,
it's wide open again. Maybe we'll just do another after that.
We could do uh, do our review of Isa Wakanda,
or you know, we didn't do it because actually, looking
watch schedule, we got pretty much after that. What's the
next thing after Isaba Conda Marvel Zombies, Right.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I guess I haven't heard anything about it recently, but
I suppose it's coming out.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And wonder Man, and then that's it. And if we
want to because of us, you know, veering into different lanes,
do something for I mean, the next season a Peacemaker
starts in a week or so, well, I would have
to watch the first season, oh man, because it's it's hilarious.
I mean, you saw him, not spoilers, not spoilers. He
(02:04):
had a bit of a five five second cameo. But
it is the premise of it is did you see
the Suicide Squad the one that he was in the
James Gunn one? Okay, did you see Suicide Squad? The
first one? No? Okay, So there's a character if you
(02:27):
saw you's not Superman, right, the one we're talking about today,
I think, So, Okay, so Frank Grillo crossed. Now that's
Superman the movie. This is actually the first movie called Superman.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Good.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So Frank Grillo, the guy that was Crossbones in Captain America.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Movies is in this. He plays Rick Flagg the thing,
the animated thing.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, so he's Rick Flagg Senior. His son, Rick Flagg
Junior was in Suicide Squad and the Suicide Squad as
the person for the military for Argus who was in
charge of controlling the Suicide Squad on their missions, like
he was the representative. He was the army muscle guy. Well,
(03:14):
Peacemaker in the Suicide Squad kills Rick Flagg Junior. Right,
So the premise, the premise of Peacemaker season two has
to do a little bit with vengeance on that and
then also Peacemaker John Cena's character is able to go
through if you saw the trailer, like he can dimension hop.
(03:36):
So he has sort of like the same technology that
Lex had in this thing with the Yeah, it's basically
the same thing that they're doing with order in order
to try to we're not having to do. Can you
imagine if the first thing James Gunn did was do
a crisis situation which is the same as the multiverse
situation in the MCU. Just try to just like, you know,
(04:00):
make sure right well, especially because like I don't know
if it's a fact or not, but like Jason Momoa
is in talks or is going to be Lobo.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He is gonna be Lobo.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, So that was like he was Aquaman, so now
he's Lobo.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The DC, like, I just you know, they're a mess still.
They have to prove to me still that they're not
a meth.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, I can say if you want to just jumper
it into it, let me hear.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm into full spoilers on Superman.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
First of all, what did you think? I know that
you've had a couple of reservations. I've heard where were
you talking?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I just didn't love it. And my main issues
with it are the structure of the story. It just
felt very all over the place. And I know that
he says that's what he wanted it to be, but
I'm like, I don't know if that's the best way
to make a movie. There were zero stakes in this film.
(04:59):
I never for once was worried about anybody, and like
the major event that's happening, that's this black hole thing
whatever ripping up, nobody cares, and then it just goes
away and I'm like, I don't know about this. Like,
I loved Rachel Brosnahan as Lewis Lane. I loved all
of the whole newsroom stuff. That was very fun, and
(05:20):
she and David Korn's Whatt were great together. I liked
most of the individual characters. I thought Nicholas Holt was
great as Lex Luthor, But at the end of it,
I just felt like, Okay, and I I'm not trying
to be a hater. Somebody left us a very nice
review on Apple with Kindness as punk Rock as their
screen name, which is very lovely, and we appreciate that.
So don't don't. I'm not coming for you, person. I
(05:43):
just there were just a lot of like structural issues
with this movie that didn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, I loved it. I had so much fun. I
had so much fun with it. I thought, like you said,
every individual acting it had been in the movie. I
hated Lex Luthor, like it was just like, my god,
he is despicable. There were a few too many like
(06:13):
parts of the movie, like when Clark Superman is taken
to the Alternate or the Pocket Universe, jail and element
Elemental Man, element Man. His kid was being held host.
I'm like, oh my god, that's It's like, well, here's
the thing is that you know that that is going
to be the trigger for something's going to happen, and
(06:35):
he's gonna be like can you get him before anything happens? Boom,
this is the way out. There was a few too
many Dislike when you see it, you go, oh, that's
how they're getting out of this.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
There were just a few too many period. Like that's
my take on the movie in general.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I did love David. I want to say, I don't
want to call him David corn Sweater, but it's Koran
sweat Corn sweat Okay. His take on Superman not Clark
because he was Clark very little in this movie.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Also, like when this whole thing is going on and
Superman's gone and they knew where it is, how come
nobody else is like what the hell is Clark through
all this?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well? Like did you get the thing about the perception glasses?
Like I said last week, but they mentioned.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That they mentioned the glasses, But that does that, doesn't
you know?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Justify Well, that's the whole loophole with Superman that we
just look away from, right right, Well, he was always
with Camalicon as Miss Marvel and Peter Parker's Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, they had the same voice and everything. Like I
even know if, like my friend Rob had a costume
on was talking to him and be like, what's up, Rob,
I've known your voice for forty years. I know exactly
what you sound like. But his take on Superman was
probably the most human that especially during the uote unquote
interview that Lois was giving to him at the beginning
(08:02):
in the apartment and she was drilling him on the
his actions against the whatever country, and he's like, well,
I took him out to the desert and put him
up against the cactus and sort of like, well, it
wasn't that sharp of a case. Like he was basically
showing that, you know, he is willing to He's not
the golden boy, scout, goody two shoes Superman, so he
(08:25):
does keep he has good intentions, but he also knows
how to push the boundaries of that line as far
as it can stretch before he crosses over across the.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I think his perception is any whatever it takes to
save the people, right squirrels.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, he's going to He's going to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And she's to say, like, but did there are rules?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And he's like, but it doesn't matter because people were
gonna die, and she's like right, but you know, so
like that dynamic was very good, right.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I think that it was sort of like if he
would have been like, well we got into to aggressive negotiation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, that type of negotiations with lightsabers.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, so I disliked there. They're basically you start the
movie and it's running, you hit the ground running.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There. It wasn't bothered me from like right off the
bat was like three hundred thirty thirteen three three three
three three. I was like, how many more threes are
there going to be? Like I'm just ready to get
the magic numbers. It's just one too many.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But the only thing I guess I had a little
bit of adjustment to is that this is the most
uh country bumpkin esque that I've ever seen. John and
Martha can't be portrayed as they were just flat out
Kansas farmers can't know, but they would they even more so,
(10:00):
like hey, they're talking, you want to see about this?
On the box Clark.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So it was I didn't she was way too southern.
He sounded pretty Canson. I will say, like, I thought
he did a pretty good job. That. Being said, there
are people who talk like she does here, Like if
you go especially people who ranch or people who have
farms like they are, they do kind of have more
(10:25):
of that twang. For me, I was like, like, I
don't talk like that. Sometimes I do sometimes it seeps out,
but in general, you know, people here don't. So but
he did a better job I thought in general than
she did. But it looked I mean, yeah, the Kansas part,
it was just a little underwhelming for me in general,
you know, Like the nice moment with his dad was nice,
(10:48):
and I liked what he said. You know, parents don't
What did he say? It's been some long since I've
seen it now, parents don't aren't supposed to tell their
kids what to be or something like that, Like that's
a real I really liked that moment.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't remember something like that. I'm trying to figure
out if he handed here who played Eauce. At first
I thought that Kyle Gas was playing his dad, the
one that's the other half of TENACIOUSD with Jack black,
(11:24):
and he looked exactly I want to have to see.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
This who plead which middle aged.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Jonathan Kent in Superman? My God?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It literally brought up every single one of Oh okay,
so that's who it is. This guy's name is Prewitt
Taylor Vince, who I always mistake him for Kyle Gas.
I was thinking, I'm like, hole, Gas was the guy
(12:02):
who liked last summer got pretty much like canceled out
of existence because of any made and I'm like, why
did he? And then I had to go back and look,
I'm like, I don't think it can't be anyways. Yeah,
they were very much a lot of The only one
little other nippick I had was that there wasn't any
(12:26):
A lot of the characters when stuff came about, were
like like there was.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Like well, I think that's reasonable given all the threes
at the beginning, they tell us like this is how
this world is. They're used to a lot of this stuff,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm trying to think who. Uh. Crypto was great. Yes,
my boy Nathan Fillion was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And very funny.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He was just such I mean, guy Gardner. If you've
ever watched any kind of animate or anything that that
that green lantern is in. He is just a pompous ass,
and he portrayed that perfectly. My the guy or the
character that I didn't think I was gonna fall in
love with but was incredible. Was mister Terrific his whole,
(13:21):
his whole just like aura about him, plus then like
that the whole like the ship and it's like his
jacket was totally like early nineties basketball with the big
Terrific on it and the leather and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Play. Yeah, he Haza's tattooed on his bicops. In the comics.
I read some of his comics last week. Yeah, he
was good, but they gave him some of the cheesiest
lines and I was like, ah, come on.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Especially the I did not understand the end credit scene
with him and Clark in the building where it was
just like did you see the end credit where they
were standing there and they put the gilling together and
it was off a little bit and mister Terriffic got
Clark just looked at him like it's not aligned. Yeah,
mister Triffic took a high offense to that, and then
he like stormed off but remember but the surprising character
(14:18):
of this whole movie to me.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Was Eve. Oh Eve Okay. I thought, yeah, with Jimmy, you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Know Jimmy, Well, Jimmy had the you know that scene
when it was like jim he could, He's literally could.
He has the power in his hands to get the
information to pretty much sage Superman, and he's still hesitant
on it because he does not want to have to
date this vapid person.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
She was smart enough to take selfies with the plans
in the background.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I was like air quoting vapid around it because when
they started.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Her off audio podcast, I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Kind of weird because even as a bad guy, Nicholas
Holt in this movie was rather I mean, as a
Lex was not like unattractive. I mean, he's a he's
an attractive man and so.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Everybody has your hair, Brian, But.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
For him to be in his situation to have someone
like her around seemed kind of like, okay, is this.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
A uh arm candy right now?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But to have that also be in you know, the
the eye of the storm at Lex Corps on the
that spaceship thing that you know they can fly away
from the building.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
When they decided to it's kind of the black widow
thing where he takes advantage of her. He thinks she's
really stupid and so he takes advantage of that and
doesn't think about her, and she proved him wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Which is why I think she still is a little
bit flaky.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I mean, it's not the brightest bul but she's not
the dimmest one.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, she has some street marks in herself, but she
I mean, obviously to do what she did. How about
all those other people that worked for Lex Court that
were like hell bent on killing Superman too. It's like
did he not right? Yeah? Like did he feed him
some kool aid or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I guess if you're being paid, you're just doing what
I don't know, yeah, or maybe he has like dirt
on all of them.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
But to me, the thing with that is that it's
sort of just like that's the I'll just say the word.
That's like the whole Nazi thing where it's like we
were just doing what we were told, right.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, I think that's part of it, sure, but.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's just like for them, it's like we were just
doing what we were paid to do. Yeah, that's the
same as an assassin or a hit man. It doesn't
make it right or legal, just.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But people will do what they you know, what they
think they have to do in situations.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Right, But not really a single one, I mean of
those people had any kind of like regret or being
less like.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well one of them did, right, the one who tells
mister trip because mister Trick that gets in there and
he's like, I've got the code you need over here,
or something like the guy with a mustache.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh okay, after the fact that.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
The month since I've seen it, so I.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Mean for when they stopped, uh, because all those people
that were at the actual camp with the the.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Now in the in the tower in Metropolis.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
In the tower, okay, yeah, because he was.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Pretty much just have their boy monologues. And then mister
Triffick's like, can we get the black hole thing taken
care of? Because he's the only one who cared about that.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So yeah, there was a lot of good humor, like
when they were like trying to get the thing going,
like to stop it when they were I did have
it was a sense of uh, trying to think of
the work the suspense in when they finally uh, but
an element man stopped kryptoniting Superman long enough for him
(18:09):
to break to the glass to save his son, to
go through the whole fighting thing in the was it
the Proton River or the Photon River and stuff like that,
but that river with the portal closing because it was
destabilized and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Trying to keep I So that's what I mean where
it was like I never at once felt suspense this
movie like ever. I was just like, I think, we
know this is gonna I'll go no.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
But that's the thing is though, sometimes you have to
almost be like what happens if it does close and
then they have to then they do find You know
that they're going to get to their goal. It's a
matter of how they get there.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
There were just no risks.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well I think if it closed then they're stuck in there.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But I'm saying, okay, but it didn't. But it's anyways, I'll.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Just I just I just really like, I don't I
didn't expect to dislike some parts of it as much
I did. I need to see it again. I was
trying to see it again. I just haven't had time.
And because I was like, well maybe on a second
watch I'll just like be there for the ride, but
I haven't gotten to do that yet. And the longer
(19:22):
I'm away from the more I find myself being like eh.
And then I go see Fantastic Four, which I think
is like extremely well written and super tight storytelling and
actually made me care, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I think them like mister terrific. When they did that
whole thing where they got because Lois went to him
with the information where you know about Clark and Clark's
He's like, I put nano bytes in his blood. I
know exactly where it ended.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So funny.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't think there was any reason for him to
bring Lois because she has no benefit to him to
be there really.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right, well, she was gonna go and he was like,
how are you gonna get there?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Right? It's like you can take the long way. By
the time I get there, everything will be taken care of. Yeah,
But she's always seemingly put into harm's way because she's
not really any kind of benefit for him to be
there at all, except for except he's the cat. That's
pretty much. I did like that fight scene where those
guys came out and put him and he put her
(20:30):
into that shield thing and then him and his balls
just went to town and like, right shot.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I love when she called them his circles.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, and He's like, circles is like two dimensional and
this is like it's very it's very like applausible. This
is a conversation because a lot of the times too,
where stuff was going on in the movie and I'm thinking,
I'm like, why is no one bringing up and then
Lois brings up this obviously, like why didn't you do
like and then it was sort of so it's sort
(21:00):
of like I don't know if that was done like
post or if it was done like okay, this is
the reason why. Sometimes it's it's a loophole that was
put out there but then closed right away type thing.
So I don't know if that's because James Gunn story.
I had a friend of mine that was like this
it was to him was a typical. It reminded him
like they could have just had half these characters be
(21:22):
the Guardians and it was another Guardians movie, and I'm like,
I didn't just feel I didn't feel this was one
hundred percent of James gun movie. Not that James Gunn
was you know, he makes movies that make money and
are you know, well received. So, but it didn't have
I didn't think it had the same beats and stuff
like that where this one was at the I mean,
(21:44):
you knew who the good guys and the bad guys
were from the first five minutes of the movie.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It was definitely not as emotional as the Guardians movies,
well one and two. I'm gonna say three is a
whole I don't I don't want to talk about that movie.
It like all of the emotional beats in this movie
we saw in the first trailers, and so not having anymore,
it was kind of like, oh, okay, you know, because
(22:10):
I still tear up at the clip of Lois when
she grabs his hand and they hug, Like I think
that's a beautiful moment, but it's just a moment, right,
And so there was nothing else that ever made me
feel that way throughout the movie. And yeah, I don't know,
I am very happy that so many people loved it.
(22:31):
I did not expect to dislike it as much as
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I did. Oh, I remember what port I was thinking
was at the end where they like run off to
do the the Anakin Lea or Anakin Leyah, it's his whoa,
it's his daughter Anakin pad me. When they get at
the beginning of Revenge of the Sith, like they went
behind the Billard like kiss when they're still wide out
right out in the open where they run into the
(22:54):
abandoned mall and then they start flying like three stories
up and I'm thinking people outside this building are gonna
see this happened. And then that's when Perry is like,
how long has this been going on? At least a
couple of weeks, So it was like, oh, okay, again
something that was obvious that was like this could have
been explained the way away or been like you didn't
(23:14):
think about it, but people would be like, oh, why
is It's that moment of you know, like uh like
Batman and can basically like Vickey Bale having a moment
like that. We're als're like, oh my god. But this
was like the same thing. Yeah, that's true, But this
was this was but them being out there just like
(23:42):
and then them them making note of it, saying, okay, why.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Are they very comic bookie right, Like that's very straight
out of pages of comic books.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And again, still the whole time was like does anyone
they could have at least says like, has anyone seen
or heard from Clark?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean it's it's the being Superman issue, right,
It just you just we just accept it and we
move on. Yeah, I mean everybody else does.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
There are some, like we talked about before, some actors that,
like you take their glasses off and change your hair
a bit, you don't recognize them. But now with the
perception thing, it's sort of just like, Okay, you put
the glasses on. It makes you look like it's a
completely different person. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, so it was fun. It was fine.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I did. Actually, I've had some of my friends that
I know complain about the random usage of the John
Williams Superman theme. Oh really, I thought it worked well
because it was it was it was it was at
the points when Superman needed to be more Superman, right.
(24:47):
It seemed like in this movie he got the crap
kicked out of it more than I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And that's I mean, not to be like a toxic
fan boy, but I do feel like it took way
too long. It took most of the movie for us
to get him, to get to see him be really
super and I kind of wanted more of you know,
I don't know, like I could have I could have
used a little more of that. Yeah, I think that
was the thing is like the common complaint.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I know we saw something different from him because we're
used to Superman being you know, like Superman and being
like the invincible. Like I saw this old like fifties
excerpt from a comic where a woman was like hanging
onto a log in the in the river and it's
like going away and he saw like Robins reaching out
(25:34):
for her. Who's holding on to Batman, who's holding on
to green arrow, who's holding on to Superman, who's holding
on to the tree. And it's like, why doesn't Superman
just like flying it himself and pick it up? Yeah,
like and even make a comment like that, like like Superman,
you know he character.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah to write, I feel like just because of all
of that, and I love an op character, like it
doesn't bother me. Those kinds of things don't bother me.
But like seeing him, Yeah, it would have been fun
to see him go more super earlier in the film,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right, But the reason for that was that he there
was people that were especially like his clone who you
know was an idiot, yeah, because who had to be
told everything? And once you know, they figured that out,
you know, was Crypto get the balls? Yeah, and I
could get the the he said get the balls or whatever,
and he just starts taking out all the cameras. Yeah,
(26:28):
and Lex just starts freaking out and he's like saying
the wrong combination of stuff and then uh, super Clone
just gets killed and then sucked into the black hole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He you know, he deserved to be.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah. And then also like what wo' was the the
Helix girl, the one that was like the.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
The engineer, Yeah, forgot with her.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
She's basically his dad because she even said she's like,
I can't survive this impact. He goes up, you know,
if it wasn't for the fact that it was like
in his lungs.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, it was gross. Didn't like.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Pulling it out.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
So not not not liking that kind of thing. Yeah,
it was fine. I just I'm not the biggest James
Gun fan in general, but I do want to see
like other creators takes on this stuff in this DCU
before I make more of an opinion. I just I
don't know. He's just not my favorite. I know, I'm
(27:31):
in the minority.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But no, hey, that's fine because if we if we
had to agree on everything and then it would just
be kind of a.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah. I mean, there were a lot of things I
enjoyed about it. It's not like it's I think it's
the worst movie ever, because I don't. But I did
like Fantastic four better.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I did like having a Kara show up at the end,
like to pick up and then her being kind of like, as, yeah,
she's like he likes she likes partying off planet and.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
On a plant on a planet with a red sun
so that she can get drunk.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
When she leaves is like, thanks for taking care of him, bitch.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's pretty good. Yeah. So see Peacemaker drops. The first
episode is August twenty first, Yeah, so that isn't ten days.
And then the next series, which is going to be
I'm trying to think, well, it'supposedly just as twenty twenty
six right now is Lanterns.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm assuming that it's Hell Jordan and John Stewart and
they have the purpose. Hell Jordan is Kyle Chandler and
Aaron Pearce is John Stewart. I'm assuming that they're gonna
have to have some ah more. I'm surprised we haven't
talked a lot more more about Guy Gardner and.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Uh, yeah, I think he'll be in the cameo.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But yeah, and then also, I mean Hawkgirl as a character,
and it was, you know, she was there, she didn't
really have much of them. She was a lot of
the She was actually a lot more of the uh
like brute force type stuff where Green Lantern was. Guy
(29:28):
was pretty much just like I knew that was the
only thing too, was like when they were uh finally
attacking the the.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What did they call them.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's back in the day when like the Iraqi's or
the Kuwaitis were like attacking the Kurds that were coming
in there because they were the native people. And then
that was pretty much what it was. You've got all
of these tanks and modern warfare going against these people
that are still in you know, like sticks and rocks
and stuff. And then all of a sudden, it's just
(30:00):
like we knew that Superman was not going to be
able to get there in time, because you know, even
though that one kid put the flag down and had
the Superman and they were coming around, and then next thing,
you know, I was just I was waiting for the
green glow to happen, and it did. Yeah, and then
Guy just came and.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Was just like, sorry, get us instead.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah. He's like he's uh, he feeds on being like
the guy that people you know, he partners with Superman.
But I'm sure he probably wishes that Superman was not
there because that he would be the focus of everyone,
like we need Guy gard we need Green Lantern here
because even a couple of times, like I'm the reason
(30:39):
the the Course sent me here to protect Earth, you know,
so it's like that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I thought the Justice the Hall of Justice set was
very cool. I thought it was really really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm just glad that they didn't do the uh that
even when they asked element Man to join the Justice
Gang and Guy Gardner's like no thanks, and he's like
Justice Skang, that's a cool name. He's like, Okay, you're in.
I thought he was going to be like, well, what
(31:13):
about like the Justice League, And then all of a sudden,
it's like they dropped the thing that they didn't need
to drop because you already had the Holl of justice, and.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So we showed a little bit of a restraint.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't open up every you know, avenue.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And that is the strength of the movie.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And they kept it very much contained. I did like
to that well. They kept it contained to where it
didn't have a lot of stuff like we've seen it
on the lot. No, and especially those two after the
movie done scenes that mid credit and end credit. If
you don't see him, it doesn't change anything. Yeah, mid
credit scene. At first, I was like, so, it's just
(31:53):
him on the moon the Earth, what's going on here?
And then the second one was just funny. You know,
it's I think he's trying to keep it in that
format because that's what people expect with a lot of
these superhero things, but not have it be important if
you if you miss it, because that's he doesn't want
the d CU to be the new MCU. He doesn't
(32:18):
want to mirror it, says yet, So I mean there's
always yeah, he's I mean, but I think that's the
thing is though, when you have it a little bit
more cohesive, it works better than having it be I mean,
they're still doing the whole Danglin thing because there's certain
things out there, like the Batman, like all of that stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
They're gonna startling that next year.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Well supposedly, I think they are.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I think they're gonna do it because he finished the
script and yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But that's a that's in a different universe, so who knows.
But anyway, it's okay. So it's a fun time.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's a fun flying high time with a dog, which
makes it all the better.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I did like how he was sort of just like
he when he went after Lex, because the first thing
he did was, you know, when he broke into the
Fortress of Solitude, was concerned about the dog, but then
later on being just like, yeah, he's pretty much like
he's not even a dog. He's like a menace or
something like that, because he was, because I mean, he
(33:23):
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Was just an energy.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
He was the canine personification, which it wasn't the thing
because but he's the canine personification of Karra. Like it
seems like he when she when she came back and
he was happy. Yeah, they're just like, yeah, they feat
up with that, So that's funny. Anyways, cute.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I enjoyed it, so yeah, yes, enjoyable for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
So as of frighten. I mean, there's nothing really compare
it to the comic because we just read that one comic.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Origin story, which they didn't do, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
They explained the stuff, and then I mean everyone knows
about the Kens and Smallville, and you know him being
very protective of everything because it wasn't even like Lex
had no idea who his parents were, who like Jonathan
and Martha were right so and I.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Didn't because they took they didn't do their best friend's
relationship thing.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
No, I mean that was strictly he just hates.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Them for the love of hating, and I kind of
respect that I do. I'm like, you know what, you
got a grudge and you're going with it.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The aspect, the aspect of the movie that I think
that they took that was really interesting was the continuation
of that message that he never heard with his parents
saying like a hay get a.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Hair them, I mean, not a good lie.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
No. But then that's when I think that's when the
morals that man Pop Kent put into him was just
like he goes, that's not how you were raised or
re raised you, and that's not how you are thinking
now anyway. So it doesn't change anything, right, you know,
if you would have heard that because I had mentioned
have you ever seen bright Burn? No, it's sort of
(35:23):
like the Superman story that if it was his upbringing
was not very good in turn to make him evil.
That was actually I think James Gunn produced it, and
so it's all that. That's a definite when it comes
to stuff like that. The whole nurture over nature, like
you're you know, the way you're raised definitely has a
(35:46):
huge impact on how you come out. You can independing
good or evil. It doesn't matter. You know, sometimes good
becomes evil. They have that just mentally they can't and
function like that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Sometimes it doesn't matter, you know. Yeah, you are your
own person when you come into the world. A lot
of people think.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So, all right, so let's see what you see next week.
We are planning on doing our full review of The Sandman.
I've seen the first episode, the one where he's pretty
much he's pretty much going around being like asking me like, hey,
(36:27):
can anyone out there save me? Or can anyone out
there help me?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, mom, dad, Fury's whatever. You know, Yes, I did,
you know, shed family blood, but you know it wasn't
the way we thought. It's you know, from a certain
point of view, I didn't do anything wrong, but the
but the thing is though, with them being stoke so
already until next week, if anyone wants to get ahold
(36:52):
of us, how can they do so?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
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And speaking of shows to check out, here is a
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are in the show notes, but I'll give you a
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Force Radio presents The bob Oo Freaks, Jack Kirby, So Weird,
(37:28):
So Fun and the Star Wars Wyo Universe hosted by
Barbary Own James Hewings. And it's all about how Star
Wars is involved in the everyday life. And from what
I gather from our conversation, he's not having an episode
this month or it's being pushed back.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He's been on holiday holiday, that's froyd.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He's from Charlie o'langlin.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, I would like to go on holiday.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'll be heading out to San Francisco in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So, oh, I'm learned to Seattle in a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yes, I'm going to rancho Obi Wan, which is im
passed in California, which houses the Guinness Book of World
Records holding largest private collection of Star Wars memorabilia, which
is owned by Steve sand Sweet, who for like fifteen
years or so was the head of fanulations for Lucasfilm
(38:17):
and he used to work for The Wall Street Journey.
Was like, what, yeah, so he knows he was in.
Steve sand Sweet was in like all three of the
prequel movies. He had like one of those characters where
you see him and you're like, oh, he's like one
of the Naboo pilots and I believe and some other
stuff and yeah, he has a lot of just cool.
(38:41):
It made me think of him earlier too, because we
were talking about the the coke cans out now that
are improving with like the Star Wars stuff, and he's
one of those guys that when it comes to things
like that, he goes and tries to get one of
every like. I think they did.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
An episode in his house or whatever for the Big
Bang theory.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I believe, so yes, right, yeah, because they're out in
LA and Pedaluma is like fifty miles north of San Francisco.
It's funny and uh that he's a nice guy. Met
him a bunch of times. I've been a member of
Rancho obi Wan since I can't see what that says
since twent thirteen.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Seventy since twenty thirteen, So.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, it's gonna be just keep that right there. Well,
I just had these.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Here is your Eagle Scout card there too.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
My Eagle Scout card is in my wallet actually, so
oh totally Eagle Scout thing to do. So anyways, yeah,
I guess that's it. We both really loved the Superman movie.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But yeah, okay, my comments with a grain of salt.
If I had it, that's great.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Raid it out of ten i'd get I'd give it
an eight and a half because I found it enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'd give it like a six and a half or seven.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Okay, so passable. So yeah, you know it's still get
a positive un rotten tomatoes, which they think is the
stupidest way to figure out. It's like, oh yeah, ninety
three percent of the people gave it a passing grade.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, you know, we all just can't get out of school,
that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah true. So anyways, so well, speaking of that, school
starts up again in like three days around our household, thankfully,
because it's just.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
As he came back today, all of our parking spots
are gone.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Not really anyway, Okay, well until next week. We remember two things,
be excellent to each other and never jodge a book
by its movie.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
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Hello, the this just in right now on source Pages.
We are heading to the Daily Planet in Metropolis. No,
it's not the Daily Planet, is it. No, isn't it,
Spider Man.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
That's the Daily Bugle.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Damn it, I had it right there. Hello the Oh
that doesn't good.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Brain, it's been bad. Uh. Hello the
Dish just in right now on source Pages, we are
going to the Daily Planet a metropolis to check on
to see what is happening with these recent Superman events
as source Pages talks about the movie that has just
recently came out and compared to you the comic that
was read as a primer. But first, bepeppppepeep.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
After these messages, we'll be right back. It's time for
the podcast. Welcome back, my fellow Kryptonians. I'm Hailey Hobbs
(00:42):
and I'm Brian B. Klein And actually I don't know
if we want to be Kryptonians because they have sketch agendas.
And this is source Pages where we read comics and
novels and then watch the things that they are based
on and talk about them like we will today with
Superman yep.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And it just seems like, so what we're doing lately
because we had so much everything dropping get released in
a timeframe, and it's sort of like we have time
to do one show. We could have done like three
shows a week for the last three weeks, but you
know it's not it's not necessary. What happened is is
like after that, like we have another review in comparison
(01:20):
next week, and then after that it's sort of just like, oh,
it's wide open again. Maybe we'll just do another after that.
We could do uh, do our review of Isa Wakanda,
or you know, we didn't do it because actually, looking
watch schedule, we got pretty much after that. What's the
next thing after Isaba Conda Marvel Zombies, Right.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I guess I haven't heard anything about it recently, but
I suppose it's coming out.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
And wonder Man, and then that's it. And if we
want to because of us, you know, veering into different lanes,
do something for I mean, the next season a Peacemaker
starts in a week or so, well, I would have
to watch the first season, oh man, because it's it's hilarious.
I mean, you saw him, not spoilers, not spoilers. He
(02:04):
had a bit of a five five second cameo. But
it is the premise of it is did you see
the Suicide Squad the one that he was in the
James Gunn one? Okay, did you see Suicide Squad? The
first one? No? Okay, So there's a character if you
(02:27):
saw you's not Superman, right, the one we're talking about today,
I think, So, Okay, so Frank Grillo crossed. Now that's
Superman the movie. This is actually the first movie called Superman.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Good.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So Frank Grillo, the guy that was Crossbones in Captain America.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Movies is in this. He plays Rick Flagg the thing,
the animated thing.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Okay, so he's Rick Flagg Senior. His son, Rick Flagg
Junior was in Suicide Squad and the Suicide Squad as
the person for the military for Argus who was in
charge of controlling the Suicide Squad on their missions, like
he was the representative. He was the army muscle guy. Well,
(03:14):
Peacemaker in the Suicide Squad kills Rick Flagg Junior. Right,
So the premise, the premise of Peacemaker season two has
to do a little bit with vengeance on that and
then also Peacemaker John Cena's character is able to go
through if you saw the trailer, like he can dimension hop.
(03:36):
So he has sort of like the same technology that
Lex had in this thing with the Yeah, it's basically
the same thing that they're doing with order in order
to try to we're not having to do. Can you
imagine if the first thing James Gunn did was do
a crisis situation which is the same as the multiverse
situation in the MCU. Just try to just like, you know,
(04:00):
make sure right well, especially because like I don't know
if it's a fact or not, but like Jason Momoa
is in talks or is going to be Lobo.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
He is gonna be Lobo.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Okay, So that was like he was Aquaman, so now
he's Lobo.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The DC, like, I just you know, they're a mess still.
They have to prove to me still that they're not
a meth.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Well, I can say if you want to just jumper
it into it, let me hear.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I'm into full spoilers on Superman.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
First of all, what did you think? I know that
you've had a couple of reservations. I've heard where were
you talking?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah, I just didn't love it. And my main issues
with it are the structure of the story. It just
felt very all over the place. And I know that
he says that's what he wanted it to be, but
I'm like, I don't know if that's the best way
to make a movie. There were zero stakes in this film.
(04:59):
I never for once was worried about anybody, and like
the major event that's happening, that's this black hole thing
whatever ripping up, nobody cares, and then it just goes
away and I'm like, I don't know about this. Like,
I loved Rachel Brosnahan as Lewis Lane. I loved all
of the whole newsroom stuff. That was very fun, and
(05:20):
she and David Korn's Whatt were great together. I liked
most of the individual characters. I thought Nicholas Holt was
great as Lex Luthor, But at the end of it,
I just felt like, Okay, and I I'm not trying
to be a hater. Somebody left us a very nice
review on Apple with Kindness as punk Rock as their
screen name, which is very lovely, and we appreciate that.
So don't don't. I'm not coming for you, person. I
(05:43):
just there were just a lot of like structural issues
with this movie that didn't work for me.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Okay, I loved it. I had so much fun. I
had so much fun with it. I thought, like you said,
every individual acting it had been in the movie. I
hated Lex Luthor, like it was just like, my god,
he is despicable. There were a few too many like
(06:13):
parts of the movie, like when Clark Superman is taken
to the Alternate or the Pocket Universe, jail and element
Elemental Man, element Man. His kid was being held host.
I'm like, oh my god, that's It's like, well, here's
the thing is that you know that that is going
to be the trigger for something's going to happen, and
(06:35):
he's gonna be like can you get him before anything happens? Boom,
this is the way out. There was a few too
many Dislike when you see it, you go, oh, that's
how they're getting out of this.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
There were just a few too many period. Like that's
my take on the movie in general.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I did love David. I want to say, I don't
want to call him David corn Sweater, but it's Koran
sweat Corn sweat Okay. His take on Superman not Clark
because he was Clark very little in this movie.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
This is true.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Also, like when this whole thing is going on and
Superman's gone and they knew where it is, how come
nobody else is like what the hell is Clark through
all this?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Well? Like did you get the thing about the perception glasses?
Like I said last week, but they mentioned.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That they mentioned the glasses, But that does that, doesn't
you know?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Justify Well, that's the whole loophole with Superman that we
just look away from, right right, Well, he was always
with Camalicon as Miss Marvel and Peter Parker's Spider Man.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, they had the same voice and everything. Like I
even know if, like my friend Rob had a costume
on was talking to him and be like, what's up, Rob,
I've known your voice for forty years. I know exactly
what you sound like. But his take on Superman was
probably the most human that especially during the uote unquote
interview that Lois was giving to him at the beginning
(08:02):
in the apartment and she was drilling him on the
his actions against the whatever country, and he's like, well,
I took him out to the desert and put him
up against the cactus and sort of like, well, it
wasn't that sharp of a case. Like he was basically
showing that, you know, he is willing to He's not
the golden boy, scout, goody two shoes Superman, so he
(08:25):
does keep he has good intentions, but he also knows
how to push the boundaries of that line as far
as it can stretch before he crosses over across the.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I think his perception is any whatever it takes to
save the people, right squirrels.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, he's going to He's going to.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
And she's to say, like, but did there are rules?
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And he's like, but it doesn't matter because people were
gonna die, and she's like right, but you know, so
like that dynamic was very good, right.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I think that it was sort of like if he
would have been like, well we got into to aggressive negotiation.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, that type of negotiations with lightsabers.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, so I disliked there. They're basically you start the
movie and it's running, you hit the ground running.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
There. It wasn't bothered me from like right off the
bat was like three hundred thirty thirteen three three three
three three. I was like, how many more threes are
there going to be? Like I'm just ready to get
the magic numbers. It's just one too many.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
But the only thing I guess I had a little
bit of adjustment to is that this is the most
uh country bumpkin esque that I've ever seen. John and
Martha can't be portrayed as they were just flat out
Kansas farmers can't know, but they would they even more so,
(10:00):
like hey, they're talking, you want to see about this?
On the box Clark.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
So it was I didn't she was way too southern.
He sounded pretty Canson. I will say, like, I thought
he did a pretty good job. That. Being said, there
are people who talk like she does here, Like if
you go especially people who ranch or people who have
farms like they are, they do kind of have more
(10:25):
of that twang. For me, I was like, like, I
don't talk like that. Sometimes I do sometimes it seeps out,
but in general, you know, people here don't. So but
he did a better job I thought in general than
she did. But it looked I mean, yeah, the Kansas part,
it was just a little underwhelming for me in general,
you know, Like the nice moment with his dad was nice,
(10:48):
and I liked what he said. You know, parents don't
What did he say? It's been some long since I've
seen it now, parents don't aren't supposed to tell their
kids what to be or something like that, Like that's
a real I really liked that moment.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't remember something like that. I'm trying to figure
out if he handed here who played Eauce. At first
I thought that Kyle Gas was playing his dad, the
one that's the other half of TENACIOUSD with Jack black,
(11:24):
and he looked exactly I want to have to see.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
This who plead which middle aged.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Jonathan Kent in Superman? My God?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
It literally brought up every single one of Oh okay,
so that's who it is. This guy's name is Prewitt
Taylor Vince, who I always mistake him for Kyle Gas.
I was thinking, I'm like, hole, Gas was the guy
(12:02):
who liked last summer got pretty much like canceled out
of existence because of any made and I'm like, why
did he? And then I had to go back and look,
I'm like, I don't think it can't be anyways. Yeah,
they were very much a lot of The only one
little other nippick I had was that there wasn't any
(12:26):
A lot of the characters when stuff came about, were
like like there was.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Like well, I think that's reasonable given all the threes
at the beginning, they tell us like this is how
this world is. They're used to a lot of this stuff,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, I'm trying to think who. Uh. Crypto was great. Yes,
my boy Nathan Fillion was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And very funny.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He was just such I mean, guy Gardner. If you've
ever watched any kind of animate or anything that that
that green lantern is in. He is just a pompous ass,
and he portrayed that perfectly. My the guy or the
character that I didn't think I was gonna fall in
love with but was incredible. Was mister Terrific his whole,
(13:21):
his whole just like aura about him, plus then like
that the whole like the ship and it's like his
jacket was totally like early nineties basketball with the big
Terrific on it and the leather and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Play. Yeah, he Haza's tattooed on his bicops. In the comics.
I read some of his comics last week. Yeah, he
was good, but they gave him some of the cheesiest
lines and I was like, ah, come on.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Especially the I did not understand the end credit scene
with him and Clark in the building where it was
just like did you see the end credit where they
were standing there and they put the gilling together and
it was off a little bit and mister Terriffic got
Clark just looked at him like it's not aligned. Yeah,
mister Triffic took a high offense to that, and then
he like stormed off but remember but the surprising character
(14:18):
of this whole movie to me.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Was Eve. Oh Eve Okay. I thought, yeah, with Jimmy, you.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Know Jimmy, Well, Jimmy had the you know that scene
when it was like jim he could, He's literally could.
He has the power in his hands to get the
information to pretty much sage Superman, and he's still hesitant
on it because he does not want to have to
date this vapid person.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
She was smart enough to take selfies with the plans
in the background.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I was like air quoting vapid around it because when
they started.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Her off audio podcast, I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Kind of weird because even as a bad guy, Nicholas
Holt in this movie was rather I mean, as a
Lex was not like unattractive. I mean, he's a he's
an attractive man and so.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Everybody has your hair, Brian, But.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
For him to be in his situation to have someone
like her around seemed kind of like, okay, is this.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
A uh arm candy right now?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
But to have that also be in you know, the
the eye of the storm at Lex Corps on the
that spaceship thing that you know they can fly away
from the building.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
When they decided to it's kind of the black widow
thing where he takes advantage of her. He thinks she's
really stupid and so he takes advantage of that and
doesn't think about her, and she proved him wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Which is why I think she still is a little
bit flaky.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I mean, it's not the brightest bul but she's not
the dimmest one.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
No, she has some street marks in herself, but she
I mean, obviously to do what she did. How about
all those other people that worked for Lex Court that
were like hell bent on killing Superman too. It's like
did he not right? Yeah? Like did he feed him
some kool aid or something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
I guess if you're being paid, you're just doing what
I don't know, yeah, or maybe he has like dirt
on all of them.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
But to me, the thing with that is that it's
sort of just like that's the I'll just say the word.
That's like the whole Nazi thing where it's like we
were just doing what we were told, right.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Well, I think that's part of it, sure, but.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
It's just like for them, it's like we were just
doing what we were paid to do. Yeah, that's the
same as an assassin or a hit man. It doesn't
make it right or legal, just.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
But people will do what they you know, what they
think they have to do in situations.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Right, But not really a single one, I mean of
those people had any kind of like regret or being
less like.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well one of them did, right, the one who tells
mister trip because mister Trick that gets in there and
he's like, I've got the code you need over here,
or something like the guy with a mustache.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh okay, after the fact that.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
The month since I've seen it, so I.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Mean for when they stopped, uh, because all those people
that were at the actual camp with the the.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Now in the in the tower in Metropolis.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
In the tower, okay, yeah, because he was.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Pretty much just have their boy monologues. And then mister
Triffick's like, can we get the black hole thing taken
care of? Because he's the only one who cared about that.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
So yeah, there was a lot of good humor, like
when they were like trying to get the thing going,
like to stop it when they were I did have
it was a sense of uh, trying to think of
the work the suspense in when they finally uh, but
an element man stopped kryptoniting Superman long enough for him
(18:09):
to break to the glass to save his son, to
go through the whole fighting thing in the was it
the Proton River or the Photon River and stuff like that,
but that river with the portal closing because it was
destabilized and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Trying to keep I So that's what I mean where
it was like I never at once felt suspense this
movie like ever. I was just like, I think, we
know this is gonna I'll go no.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
But that's the thing is though, sometimes you have to
almost be like what happens if it does close and
then they have to then they do find You know
that they're going to get to their goal. It's a
matter of how they get there.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
There were just no risks.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well I think if it closed then they're stuck in there.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But I'm saying, okay, but it didn't. But it's anyways, I'll.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Just I just I just really like, I don't I
didn't expect to dislike some parts of it as much
I did. I need to see it again. I was
trying to see it again. I just haven't had time.
And because I was like, well maybe on a second
watch I'll just like be there for the ride, but
I haven't gotten to do that yet. And the longer
(19:22):
I'm away from the more I find myself being like eh.
And then I go see Fantastic Four, which I think
is like extremely well written and super tight storytelling and
actually made me care, and I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I think them like mister terrific. When they did that
whole thing where they got because Lois went to him
with the information where you know about Clark and Clark's
He's like, I put nano bytes in his blood. I
know exactly where it ended.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
So funny.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
I don't think there was any reason for him to
bring Lois because she has no benefit to him to
be there really.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Right, well, she was gonna go and he was like,
how are you gonna get there?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Right? It's like you can take the long way. By
the time I get there, everything will be taken care of. Yeah,
But she's always seemingly put into harm's way because she's
not really any kind of benefit for him to be
there at all, except for except he's the cat. That's
pretty much. I did like that fight scene where those
guys came out and put him and he put her
(20:30):
into that shield thing and then him and his balls
just went to town and like, right shot.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I love when she called them his circles.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah, and He's like, circles is like two dimensional and
this is like it's very it's very like applausible. This
is a conversation because a lot of the times too,
where stuff was going on in the movie and I'm thinking,
I'm like, why is no one bringing up and then
Lois brings up this obviously, like why didn't you do
like and then it was sort of so it's sort
(21:00):
of like I don't know if that was done like
post or if it was done like okay, this is
the reason why. Sometimes it's it's a loophole that was
put out there but then closed right away type thing.
So I don't know if that's because James Gunn story.
I had a friend of mine that was like this
it was to him was a typical. It reminded him
like they could have just had half these characters be
(21:22):
the Guardians and it was another Guardians movie, and I'm like,
I didn't just feel I didn't feel this was one
hundred percent of James gun movie. Not that James Gunn
was you know, he makes movies that make money and
are you know, well received. So, but it didn't have
I didn't think it had the same beats and stuff
like that where this one was at the I mean,
(21:44):
you knew who the good guys and the bad guys
were from the first five minutes of the movie.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It was definitely not as emotional as the Guardians movies,
well one and two. I'm gonna say three is a
whole I don't I don't want to talk about that movie.
It like all of the emotional beats in this movie
we saw in the first trailers, and so not having anymore,
it was kind of like, oh, okay, you know, because
(22:10):
I still tear up at the clip of Lois when
she grabs his hand and they hug, Like I think
that's a beautiful moment, but it's just a moment, right,
And so there was nothing else that ever made me
feel that way throughout the movie. And yeah, I don't know,
I am very happy that so many people loved it.
(22:31):
I did not expect to dislike it as much as
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I did. Oh, I remember what port I was thinking
was at the end where they like run off to
do the the Anakin Lea or Anakin Leyah, it's his whoa,
it's his daughter Anakin pad me. When they get at
the beginning of Revenge of the Sith, like they went
behind the Billard like kiss when they're still wide out
right out in the open where they run into the
(22:54):
abandoned mall and then they start flying like three stories
up and I'm thinking people outside this building are gonna
see this happened. And then that's when Perry is like,
how long has this been going on? At least a
couple of weeks, So it was like, oh, okay, again
something that was obvious that was like this could have
been explained the way away or been like you didn't
(23:14):
think about it, but people would be like, oh, why
is It's that moment of you know, like uh like
Batman and can basically like Vickey Bale having a moment
like that. We're als're like, oh my god. But this
was like the same thing. Yeah, that's true, But this
was this was but them being out there just like
(23:42):
and then them them making note of it, saying, okay, why.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Are they very comic bookie right, Like that's very straight
out of pages of comic books.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
And again, still the whole time was like does anyone
they could have at least says like, has anyone seen
or heard from Clark?
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, I mean it's it's the being Superman issue, right,
It just you just we just accept it and we
move on. Yeah, I mean everybody else does.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
There are some, like we talked about before, some actors that,
like you take their glasses off and change your hair
a bit, you don't recognize them. But now with the
perception thing, it's sort of just like, Okay, you put
the glasses on. It makes you look like it's a
completely different person. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Yeah, so it was fun. It was fine.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I did. Actually, I've had some of my friends that
I know complain about the random usage of the John
Williams Superman theme. Oh really, I thought it worked well
because it was it was it was it was at
the points when Superman needed to be more Superman, right.
(24:47):
It seemed like in this movie he got the crap
kicked out of it more than I've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And that's I mean, not to be like a toxic
fan boy, but I do feel like it took way
too long. It took most of the movie for us
to get him, to get to see him be really
super and I kind of wanted more of you know,
I don't know, like I could have I could have
used a little more of that. Yeah, I think that
was the thing is like the common complaint.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I know we saw something different from him because we're
used to Superman being you know, like Superman and being
like the invincible. Like I saw this old like fifties
excerpt from a comic where a woman was like hanging
onto a log in the in the river and it's
like going away and he saw like Robins reaching out
(25:34):
for her. Who's holding on to Batman, who's holding on
to green arrow, who's holding on to Superman, who's holding
on to the tree. And it's like, why doesn't Superman
just like flying it himself and pick it up? Yeah,
like and even make a comment like that, like like Superman,
you know he character.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Yeah to write, I feel like just because of all
of that, and I love an op character, like it
doesn't bother me. Those kinds of things don't bother me.
But like seeing him, Yeah, it would have been fun
to see him go more super earlier in the film,
but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Right, But the reason for that was that he there
was people that were especially like his clone who you
know was an idiot, yeah, because who had to be
told everything? And once you know, they figured that out,
you know, was Crypto get the balls? Yeah, and I
could get the the he said get the balls or whatever,
and he just starts taking out all the cameras. Yeah,
(26:28):
and Lex just starts freaking out and he's like saying
the wrong combination of stuff and then uh, super Clone
just gets killed and then sucked into the black hole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
He you know, he deserved to be.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah. And then also like what wo' was the the
Helix girl, the one that was like the.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
The engineer, Yeah, forgot with her.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
She's basically his dad because she even said she's like,
I can't survive this impact. He goes up, you know,
if it wasn't for the fact that it was like
in his lungs.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, it was gross. Didn't like.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Pulling it out.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
So not not not liking that kind of thing. Yeah,
it was fine. I just I'm not the biggest James
Gun fan in general, but I do want to see
like other creators takes on this stuff in this DCU
before I make more of an opinion. I just I
don't know. He's just not my favorite. I know, I'm
(27:31):
in the minority.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
But no, hey, that's fine because if we if we
had to agree on everything and then it would just
be kind of a.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah. I mean, there were a lot of things I
enjoyed about it. It's not like it's I think it's
the worst movie ever, because I don't. But I did
like Fantastic four better.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I did like having a Kara show up at the end,
like to pick up and then her being kind of like, as, yeah,
she's like he likes she likes partying off planet and.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
On a plant on a planet with a red sun
so that she can get drunk.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
When she leaves is like, thanks for taking care of him, bitch.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's pretty good. Yeah. So see Peacemaker drops. The first
episode is August twenty first, Yeah, so that isn't ten days.
And then the next series, which is going to be
I'm trying to think, well, it'supposedly just as twenty twenty
six right now is Lanterns.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I'm assuming that it's Hell Jordan and John Stewart and
they have the purpose. Hell Jordan is Kyle Chandler and
Aaron Pearce is John Stewart. I'm assuming that they're gonna
have to have some ah more. I'm surprised we haven't
talked a lot more more about Guy Gardner and.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Uh, yeah, I think he'll be in the cameo.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But yeah, and then also, I mean Hawkgirl as a character,
and it was, you know, she was there, she didn't
really have much of them. She was a lot of
the She was actually a lot more of the uh
like brute force type stuff where Green Lantern was. Guy
(29:28):
was pretty much just like I knew that was the
only thing too, was like when they were uh finally
attacking the the.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
What did they call them.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
It's back in the day when like the Iraqi's or
the Kuwaitis were like attacking the Kurds that were coming
in there because they were the native people. And then
that was pretty much what it was. You've got all
of these tanks and modern warfare going against these people
that are still in you know, like sticks and rocks
and stuff. And then all of a sudden, it's just
(30:00):
like we knew that Superman was not going to be
able to get there in time, because you know, even
though that one kid put the flag down and had
the Superman and they were coming around, and then next thing,
you know, I was just I was waiting for the
green glow to happen, and it did. Yeah, and then
Guy just came and.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Was just like, sorry, get us instead.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah. He's like he's uh, he feeds on being like
the guy that people you know, he partners with Superman.
But I'm sure he probably wishes that Superman was not
there because that he would be the focus of everyone,
like we need Guy gard we need Green Lantern here
because even a couple of times, like I'm the reason
(30:39):
the the Course sent me here to protect Earth, you know,
so it's like that's what I'm here to do.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I thought the Justice the Hall of Justice set was
very cool. I thought it was really really nice.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'm just glad that they didn't do the uh that
even when they asked element Man to join the Justice
Gang and Guy Gardner's like no thanks, and he's like
Justice Skang, that's a cool name. He's like, Okay, you're in.
I thought he was going to be like, well, what
(31:13):
about like the Justice League, And then all of a sudden,
it's like they dropped the thing that they didn't need
to drop because you already had the Holl of justice, and.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So we showed a little bit of a restraint.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, they didn't. They didn't open up every you know, avenue.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And that is the strength of the movie.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And they kept it very much contained. I did like
to that well. They kept it contained to where it
didn't have a lot of stuff like we've seen it
on the lot. No, and especially those two after the
movie done scenes that mid credit and end credit. If
you don't see him, it doesn't change anything. Yeah, mid
credit scene. At first, I was like, so, it's just
(31:53):
him on the moon the Earth, what's going on here?
And then the second one was just funny. You know,
it's I think he's trying to keep it in that
format because that's what people expect with a lot of
these superhero things, but not have it be important if
you if you miss it, because that's he doesn't want
the d CU to be the new MCU. He doesn't
(32:18):
want to mirror it, says yet, So I mean there's
always yeah, he's I mean, but I think that's the
thing is though, when you have it a little bit
more cohesive, it works better than having it be I mean,
they're still doing the whole Danglin thing because there's certain
things out there, like the Batman, like all of that stuff, and.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
They're gonna startling that next year.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Well supposedly, I think they are.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I think they're gonna do it because he finished the
script and yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But that's a that's in a different universe, so who knows.
But anyway, it's okay. So it's a fun time.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
It's a fun flying high time with a dog, which
makes it all the better.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I did like how he was sort of just like
he when he went after Lex, because the first thing
he did was, you know, when he broke into the
Fortress of Solitude, was concerned about the dog, but then
later on being just like, yeah, he's pretty much like
he's not even a dog. He's like a menace or
something like that, because he was, because I mean, he
(33:23):
pretty much.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Was just an energy.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
He was the canine personification, which it wasn't the thing
because but he's the canine personification of Karra. Like it
seems like he when she when she came back and
he was happy. Yeah, they're just like, yeah, they feat
up with that, So that's funny. Anyways, cute.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
I enjoyed it, so yeah, yes, enjoyable for sure.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
So as of frighten. I mean, there's nothing really compare
it to the comic because we just read that one comic.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Origin story, which they didn't do, and that's okay.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
They explained the stuff, and then I mean everyone knows
about the Kens and Smallville, and you know him being
very protective of everything because it wasn't even like Lex
had no idea who his parents were, who like Jonathan
and Martha were right so and I.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Didn't because they took they didn't do their best friend's
relationship thing.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
No, I mean that was strictly he just hates.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Them for the love of hating, and I kind of
respect that I do. I'm like, you know what, you
got a grudge and you're going with it.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
The aspect, the aspect of the movie that I think
that they took that was really interesting was the continuation
of that message that he never heard with his parents
saying like a hay get a.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Hair them, I mean, not a good lie.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
No. But then that's when I think that's when the
morals that man Pop Kent put into him was just
like he goes, that's not how you were raised or
re raised you, and that's not how you are thinking
now anyway. So it doesn't change anything, right, you know,
if you would have heard that because I had mentioned
have you ever seen bright Burn? No, it's sort of
(35:23):
like the Superman story that if it was his upbringing
was not very good in turn to make him evil.
That was actually I think James Gunn produced it, and
so it's all that. That's a definite when it comes
to stuff like that. The whole nurture over nature, like
you're you know, the way you're raised definitely has a
(35:46):
huge impact on how you come out. You can independing
good or evil. It doesn't matter. You know, sometimes good
becomes evil. They have that just mentally they can't and
function like that.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Sometimes it doesn't matter, you know. Yeah, you are your
own person when you come into the world. A lot
of people think.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
So, all right, so let's see what you see next week.
We are planning on doing our full review of The Sandman.
I've seen the first episode, the one where he's pretty
much he's pretty much going around being like asking me like, hey,
(36:27):
can anyone out there save me? Or can anyone out
there help me?
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Yeah, mom, dad, Fury's whatever. You know, Yes, I did,
you know, shed family blood, but you know it wasn't
the way we thought. It's you know, from a certain
point of view, I didn't do anything wrong, but the
but the thing is though, with them being stoke so
already until next week, if anyone wants to get ahold
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Barbary Own James Hewings. And it's all about how Star
Wars is involved in the everyday life. And from what
I gather from our conversation, he's not having an episode
this month or it's being pushed back.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
He's been on holiday holiday, that's froyd.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
He's from Charlie o'langlin.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah, I would like to go on holiday.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'll be heading out to San Francisco in a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
So, oh, I'm learned to Seattle in a few weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yes, I'm going to rancho Obi Wan, which is im
passed in California, which houses the Guinness Book of World
Records holding largest private collection of Star Wars memorabilia, which
is owned by Steve sand Sweet, who for like fifteen
years or so was the head of fanulations for Lucasfilm
(38:17):
and he used to work for The Wall Street Journey.
Was like, what, yeah, so he knows he was in.
Steve sand Sweet was in like all three of the
prequel movies. He had like one of those characters where
you see him and you're like, oh, he's like one
of the Naboo pilots and I believe and some other
stuff and yeah, he has a lot of just cool.
(38:41):
It made me think of him earlier too, because we
were talking about the the coke cans out now that
are improving with like the Star Wars stuff, and he's
one of those guys that when it comes to things
like that, he goes and tries to get one of
every like. I think they did.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
An episode in his house or whatever for the Big
Bang theory.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I believe, so yes, right, yeah, because they're out in
LA and Pedaluma is like fifty miles north of San Francisco.
It's funny and uh that he's a nice guy. Met
him a bunch of times. I've been a member of
Rancho obi Wan since I can't see what that says
since twent thirteen.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Seventy since twenty thirteen, So.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, it's gonna be just keep that right there. Well,
I just had these.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Here is your Eagle Scout card there too.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
My Eagle Scout card is in my wallet actually, so
oh totally Eagle Scout thing to do. So anyways, yeah,
I guess that's it. We both really loved the Superman movie.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
But yeah, okay, my comments with a grain of salt.
If I had it, that's great.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Raid it out of ten i'd get I'd give it
an eight and a half because I found it enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I'd give it like a six and a half or seven.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Okay, so passable. So yeah, you know it's still get
a positive un rotten tomatoes, which they think is the
stupidest way to figure out. It's like, oh yeah, ninety
three percent of the people gave it a passing grade.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah, you know, we all just can't get out of school,
that's all it is.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah true. So anyways, so well, speaking of that, school
starts up again in like three days around our household, thankfully,
because it's just.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
As he came back today, all of our parking spots
are gone.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Not really anyway, Okay, well until next week. We remember two things,
be excellent to each other and never jodge a book
by its movie.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
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If you would like to contact us, you can email
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Speaker 1 (41:08):
Hello, the this just in right now on source Pages.
We are heading to the Daily Planet in Metropolis. No,
it's not the Daily Planet, is it. No, isn't it,
Spider Man.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
That's the Daily Bugle.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Damn it, I had it right there. Hello the Oh
that doesn't good.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Brain, it's been bad. Uh. Hello the
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