The Fantastic Four: First Steps (MCU) Primer - Life Story (2021) - Source Pages: A Reading Collective

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now on Source Pages, Don't Turn Invisible. We're talking
about Marvel's first family for kind of one of the
first times on this podcast, which is shocking in two
hundred episodes because The Fantastic Four First Steps is coming
out next week. But first it's time for the podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Welcome Back, True Believers. This is Brian V.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Klein and this is Haley Hobbs, and.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
This is Source Pages, where we have no idea how
to do a cold open after our two hundred first episode,
which is today. And yeah, well, sometimes when we.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Have a break of an episode, whether it's like you know,
anniversary episode or Doctor Who, when you come back to comments,
it's always like, oh my god, that was one hundred
years ago. Oh it was two weeks. Just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
But anyways, if you're new to the show, what we
do here is we read comics and novels or watch
TV shows, anything that's basically, you know, adjacent to or
related to what geeky TV shows and movies that are
coming out. And like Hayley said, we've got the first
Fantastic Four, which by the way, I've already seen. Now
it's always weighted, I guess at the beginning, but when

(01:29):
the people, the pressed, the people that have seen the movie,
and I've seen the reviews so far has been like
the word I've seen described most often than not is
just masterpiece. Yeah, which I was just like like, okay, cool,
I've had a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
And I'm trying to temper my expectations.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, you always have to, yeah, you know, as I'm
always cautiously optimistic about stuff, you know, and with this,
especially because I never really had the first Fantastic for movie.
Was I enjoyed it? It was Doctor Doom, was you know,
especially because we haven't even talked about it. The guy
that played Doctor dam in the first movie he just

(02:06):
fifteen years old and was died. I mean I remember
him from Nick Tupp, which.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I can answer, yeah, it's a bitch.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
But the second thing, when you decide to make Galactus
into a cosmic cloud art cloud, and then I didn't
even want to talk about the Josh Trank Trank Wreck.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I've still never seen that movie. Honestly, I want to
watch it though before I don't know how we have
time this week, but I want to watch it because
just because you anyone have to.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Do it under your like hate watch thing with the
actually watch it because it's just like that one.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
We might get in trouble. But yeah, it's just twenty
four got mad at us. So we've paused.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
That a twenty four got made you for hate watching
stuff and we weren't.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
The funny thing was we actually liked the movie by
the end. We were like, oh my gosh, I ready
should go watch this movie, and they were like copyright
and we were like, what we were promoting your film?
Oh god, So that's why I watched on the pause. Okay, anyway,
Fantastic four though.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yes, it's I think I gave up on watching the
trailers because they released. I think I've never seen more
trailers and TV spots for a movie than this because
they're on like the seventh trailer. What I saw whatever
last movie I saw in the theaters was was the
new trailer where I knew that they had a different

(03:26):
Harald coming, which is fine. I mean it does all.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah, should have read Shallabaal comics.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
We could have done something. I think it's I mean,
this one it focused.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
On he's never done the Fantastic four.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So and we well, we talked about adjacent way back
one of our first episode. No, not even that the
Franklin Richards of it all.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh my god, when you sent me a nine page pdo.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Hey that literally I think it was like our third
or fourth episode we did that was four years ago.
Because of the whole he who remains Loki you know,
major drugs.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Who remains shall not be named.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, so that whole thing is turned into a one
to eighty though, that character you know is back, and
but it focuses a little bit on him in this
comic run. And then also it's also I mean, it
focuses enough on Galactus that if you don't know who Galactus,
I think Galactus in the way that it's gonna be,
he's gonna be portrayed in this movie, it's pretty much

(04:24):
how he's portrayed in this comic run.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
So, I mean, though, the one thing that was different
was it wasn't norn Rad who was the Harold, although
I think it was because he was. It was because
he said in the name of though, but he just
said go back to his then law, which is the
home planet where norn Rad saved. So yeah, I think though,
I mean, we'll get into it the way that that

(04:47):
whole thing, you know, that's I don't know if that's
going to be the way that they take care of
Galactus in this because, uh, the one scene I did
see a little snippet where they're doing the press conference
and they're like, how did you guys defeat Galactus and
reads just like we haven't. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I what I like about the trailers and stuff is
that they're not they've given some stuff away, right uh
the baby, But I job with that too, So yeah,
I still feel like I don't know what the movie
is going to be about. Whereas some of the more
recent Marvel films, whoever's putting the trailers together, you know,

(05:28):
Brave New World is the most recent example of like
you've given everything away. Thunderbolts was kind of the same way.
They're just you know, they they're trying to get them
into theaters. I don't think they're going to have trouble
packing theaters with Fantastic for as much, but I think
that's what their strategy has been.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
I think the the uh box office that predicting it
for the weekend, it's tracking to do like almost two
hundred million opening US, which is gangbusters for them.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
So yeah, especially in light of just recent box office
Superhero stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah, especially because it was before I mean, it's never
going to go back to the days of pre you know,
pre Infinity War stuff. For every movie they were putting out,
Captain Marble made a billion in the box office, right,
you know, when a movie like ant Man, which no
one really knew what the character was, was coming out
and doing you know, like seven hundred million, that's gigantic,

(06:32):
and now they're you know, Thunderbolts and Brave New World
I think both stalled out, installed out like under six
hundred million.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
And that's like basic economics, right, You have a thing
for so long that eventually, if it's the norm, it's
not going to continue to climb all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Which is one of the things. One of the last
companies I worked with was like, we set goals and
then the next that year we broke them. We had
the best year that ever had as a seven year
old company, and then next year they're like, well, we're
gonna ask for like a five percent increase, right, and
then we went down a little bit and had the
second best year they ever had, but we didn't meet

(07:10):
our goals. It's still just like, I mean, that's not
how stuff like this should work. You know you're not
gonna it's the what's the the di ministry turns or
I don't know, like what the whole macroeconomics thing of
it all is is. But it's like that with Marvel.
Is that? And also I think a lot of it,
and we've talked about this, is that a lot of
people may be holding off on things because they realized

(07:35):
in six weeks time this is going to be available.
I just saw today I could watch How to Train
Your Dragon at home if I want to on you
know what, you have to buy it or you rent
it for whatever. But if you read it for twenty
bucks and you got five people sitting here watching it, hey,
you have twenty four hours you could watch it. Get
twenty bucks for five people and you have you can

(07:56):
watch it ten times if you want. I guess yeah,
but you also positive.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
I like seeing my big movies in the theaters.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Oh definitely.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I know that it's not for everybody, though I have.
You know, I have a different situation. It's just me
and my husband and like we can go do that.
But it is like you lose something. I feel like
when you only watch stuff at home, unless that's all
you can do. I know there's situations and all that,
but it's just so fun to go to the movies.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
That is the thing too, is like I think there's
a matter of the lack of control where you have
to it's something you have to do that because there's
sometimes where it's like it might take me x amount
of hours to watch a movie because there's bathroom breaks
and then there's positive that go get something in someone's
kind of the phone, you're checking it when you're in
the theaters. It's just you're there, and you're you're there,

(08:48):
you know what, we.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Just go see this weekend? Ohman, duh. But this couple
next to me, like she was on her phone and
I was like, then don't be here, like I don't
understand here. If you want to be on your phone,
you can put it down for two and a half hours,
I promise. I'm also just like I'm so spoiled. We
have our twenty one and only over theater here and

(09:10):
it's just the best.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, and speaking of that, I think some of the
theater depending on what shows and times it is now
and it has to do with I think minecraft is
that if you're under eighteen and you're there past a
certain time, you have to be accompanied by an adult.
It's for the movie's sake, it's for the you know,
the behavior of the kids.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
So I used to get dropped off in the movies
all the time as a kid, but we weren'teah, you know,
it was different.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
We were literally there to see the movies.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
So yeah, I mean there wasn't and I didn't. Yeah, yeah,
that's interesting. I love the movies, and I love going
to the movies. I can't wait to see, like I'm
I was most excited for Thunderbolts, but like my excitement
is really mounting for Fantastic Four because of the Matt
Shackman of it all, especially like I was listening to
the WandaVision theme songs driving back yesterday from my parents' house,

(10:03):
and I was like, should I really watch one division?
I was like, no, No, I've got I got stuff
to do, like I've got to prepare for Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think the thing with me is there's just so
many things in my life that are going on right now,
nothing negative, but it's just so with like work and
family and other stuff and that I got to get
done that I can't focus on the fact that, yeah,
like it's opening, I got tickets for Saturday matinee, hopefully

(10:32):
that my work doesn't go too long. But I also
had because I had. I never have used this before
because I really never needed to because of the AMC stubs.
Thing was every time we've had Little Caesars a couple
of times in the last month and a half, and
every time we've got I've got a code for like
four bucks off and our theater for Matinee's only six dollars.
So I paid four dollars for two tickets to go

(10:53):
see I could have actually probably gotten it for free
if I would have waited one more time and gotten
my AMC five dollars back. But it won't break you,
oh no. And the thing is that theaters now here
they upgrade. I'm not living in the Chicago suburbs not
having that Oh Brooke Dolby Theater anymore. And like the
big it's sort of that it's a deterrent, especially because

(11:16):
I've got now a seventy five inch screen four K
TV and I set up it's it's almost the comfort
of it is is is there at home. But it's
also like, yeah, going out with the date with my wife. Yeah,
but in the same note with some of these movies'
is like I haven't watched Thunderbolts or Captain America four

(11:36):
at home and they're available on Disney Plus, right, so
maybe just Thunderbolts.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Not yet, it's just available on digital.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, so I haven't watched any of the things yet.
But I think that has to do with more with
although I have seen.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Well time and the amount of content I've been trying
to like I don't know why, but just for comfort
when I'm at home right now, because when I have time,
I'm just I like spin the Marvel movie Random Wheel
that you can find on the internet, and I've just
been watching whatever it lands on And last night it
was The Winter Soldier and I was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Darn oh no, like literally one of the greatest movies.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's like, oh yeah, let's just go back and enjoy
some of these.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, I see lately, what I've been doing because I've
had time, I've taken a break from doing like my
binge watching is some of the stuff and I've just
been again, I wish there could have been more content
of this is that I'm watching Firefly again. Some of
the stuff in four K because I'm watching it on
my It's what's weird too, is that it's on Hulu,
and I watched it on Hulu and I'm like, it

(12:37):
doesn't look great because it's only been shown in SD.
But then I go to my fandango at home, which
used to be Voodoo, and I have the HD done,
and I'm like, you could definitely tell a difference. But
I'm like, this show is so good. But then we're
watching it going like, oh, yeah, that's Vanessa from Deadpool,
and that's k Twoso, and that's the guy Gardner now

(12:58):
from Superman, and that's this person, and like there's so
many people involved. The only thing that some people I've
talked to, they're like, I don't want to watch anything
that has that guy to Judge Whedon, but no one's
heard of Jass Whedon pretty much in the last like
five years. I think he's just like gone away. So
hopefully Yeah, anyways, well, Fantastic four, the Fantastic four.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Fantastic four has a lot of history, guys, and so yeah,
because we've never done anything dedicated to them, we read
the sixtieth anniversary series, which was called Life Story that
they've modeled after the Spider Man Life Story for its
I think sixtieth anniversary, and so we're going to do
what's cool about it is that goes through the decades
that the Fantastic Four has been around in comics, and

(13:45):
so we're going to go through each one, but like
hit the highlights. There will be things that are important
about the Fantastic Four that we probably miss, but just
to give you the scope of where they've been and
where they are now and then like we have no
idea what they're going to be like in the movie.
So it's kind of exciting.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, And what's kind of cool about this is that
this run was in what twenty one, twenty two, Yeah,
and it was after Fantastic This is one of the
I don't know if I want to call it spiteful
things that Marvel did. But when Marvel was already owned
by Disney and Fox had the rights to Fantastic Four

(14:24):
and all this other stuff before Disney bottom, they weren't
really playing nice and they were doing the thing. That's
why they made that Josh Trank movie is so they
can retaine the rights to Fantastic Four. Marvel stopped making
Fantastic Four comics. They're like, you know what, We're not
going to give you any promotion for this because we're
not gaining anything from it with you know, the movies,

(14:46):
and because we don't have the rights to do anything
more in comics, and it was one of their like
tent pole. You know, I'm still hoping for.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Some of the most famous characters in Marvel history, like.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Pay Spot, Pete.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Man.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, exactly, but some of the guys I mean came
from Fantastic Four and to show that they went and
just stopped it because it was just like, well, you know,
we're taking our ball and leaving the sandbox or what
type of thing. So, but yeah, this is definitely a
good I'm sort of glad that the movie isn't going
through the hole, or if they are, it's not going

(15:23):
to be like the first the Trank movie or the
first one where most of it is showing how they
became the Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
I think that what we've seen of that in the
trailers is probably about the extent of it we're gonna get,
And I think I think it's gonna be like in
flashback mode, maybe.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
What is the do we know what the running time
is of the movie.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
I do not know that off the top of mine,
it is.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Nope, that's not it. I'm gonna say fifty three wow,
one hour and fifty five minutes.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Oh that's short.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
I was thinking it was la if. I just saw
like last week they released the episode length of for
the final season The Stranger Things, and literally the shortest
episode is two hours and five minutes. The longest one
is the finale ist three hours. I'm like, so they
made eight movies. So but anyway, so yeah, hour fifty

(16:17):
five minutes. I mean, maybe that's thing is they're pulling
out a lot of the origin stuff, which we don't need.
We didn't have it in Spider Man as much we
didn't have we've already seen that to death. We don't need.
We know what happened to although this, we.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Just have to make sure we get enough of it.
So everything still makes sense.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yes, because don't forget also that we already know that
this is not a regular Marvel.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Universe right there somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
They're in a different on a different, different universe.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, so anyway, so yeah, Fantastic four Life Story from
twenty twenty one. All six issues were written by Mark Russell.
Pencils and ink were done by Sean azoxy colors by
no One Woodard, and the letters were all done by
Joe Karamania. And he had a lot of letters to
do because these were all over thirty pages long.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, and it was very trunkate. Yeah, it was very
wordy and very I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
It was a good one, very wordy.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yeah. It reminded me a lot of like the seventies
and sixties books where there was like three by three
with nine panels and it was just filled with words.
There wasn't a lot of splash pages where it was just.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Ex show maybe one per issue maybe I think, yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I think they had one splash page per issue, but
it was usually like when this person showed up or
this person did this, it was a big battle scene
and you know. But yeah, it was very comic. Use
it takes me seven to ten minutes to read if
it's a normal twenty these ones were like twenty twenty
five minutes eat speak. They were they were, yeah, but

(17:52):
they weren't like it wasn't like trotting, but it was
just like there was so much. But then when you
go back to think about it, was it wasn't a
lot of story, and it was a lot of that.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
MANUALI lights basically of yeah, what they've done over sixty years.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, because it's like you was saying, each is we
got the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, aughts, and teens ends,
and I can't believe they're called like these are the twenties.
Now It's like, no, the twenties are nineteen twenties.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
It'll have to be the twenty twenties. Because nobody talks
about the tens. We say the nineteen tens, but now
I think it's going to be it's the tens and
the twenty twenty. It doesn't matter, well, which ones.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Are the aughts? Are those? The those are the ten
two thousand?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Okay, that's twenty to two thousand, and gosh, nineteen would
be the tens. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I look at us age today and Sue Storm did
not age at all.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
So we will discuss I have a feelings. I actually
I don't. It's common. So we do start in the sixties,
and of course, a lot of credit right up front
here to Jack Kirby for everything he did with a
fantass for cannot be cannot be said enough times, and
of course there's a lot of drama with that. If

(19:06):
you want to figure that out, go on the internet.
So in the sixties, we have a president JFK who's like,
I need help. It's the space race, it's the Cold War.
We need to be in space and too fast forward.
This leads to their accent that gives them their powers,
and it also gives read this vision of Galactus, and
it's kind of very reminiscent of like Tony and Iron

(19:29):
Man three, where he's like, you know, haunted by what
happened in New York. And so this is like Reid's
sort of super smart hero villain origin story.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
In a sense. And I think two is that, you know,
they give a little explanation of the fact that there
was like he wait, they basically shut the program down
right because they couldn't use the anti matter fuel for
the ship that they need to get up to space,
and reads just like screw it, I'm just going to go.
We need a pilot though, and Johnny's like, oh, I

(20:02):
know a guy, and it was Ben Grimm and he
was we find out later that he was dishonorably discharged
from the army or the Air Force or whatever it was,
and then so they go up there and that's I mean,
the Gael their power. Because then Johnny Storm was just like, hey, hey,
I'll come around, because didn't he like blackmail him too
or something. He's like, well I could say something.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
Or yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
I can't let you guys know. But I thought it
was funny how much it would have to go back
on that security guard that's like, you guys can't come
in here. There's mothballing and everything, and he's like, we
just want to get our stuff. And then next thing,
you know, like three panels later, he's like, shot, crap.
But then they turn around and make it like we
went to space.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Yeah, so it's you know, he's too ahead of his
time and this is the disastrous result. But now they're
the heroes. Except Ben is very very mad at Reed,
understandably so because of course of all of them, he
gets the dirtiest hand undult to him. Read and Sue
get married. He is trying to get the administration on

(21:07):
board with like, we have to prepare for this thing
that I saw and they're like, well, what is it.
He's like, I don't know. It's called galactus and they're
like what is that. He's like, I don't know. So
everybody's like not really into helping him because he can't
articulate what is coming.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's pretty much like a town crier that's crying wolf
because not that he doesn't like he's basically the guy
that he's the nut job you see on the corner
with the scientist as the end is near, but he
actually has the vision that he saw that the end
was coming in a way. And also we got to
mention that the person that was sort of helping from
the government doctor was it doctor Jones. Yeah, he has

(21:45):
a place in it. A little bit later too, because
he comes back to I wouldn't say sacrifice himself, but
he was kind of not happy that they made Read
the head of this. But it's like Read is the
smartest man on the planet, so yes, well.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
He offers he doctor Jones offers Ben. He kind of
tricks Ben into thinking like, I have a solution that
will cure this condition that Read Richards is responsible for.
But it's not that. What does it end up doing?
Like they all go into space and well they ends
up seeing the vision of Galactus too.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Right, Well, Ben is on I don't know was it
in the sixties though, because when it was, the doctor
Jones goes with him to do something else and that's
when he Ben is Ben turns back to because he's.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Sitting later on, Yeah, yeah, that's this one.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Because he goes with Ben or the thing goes with
Red up the space and again.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
And that's what happens now, but he doesn't end up
turning back. I don't remember. It was kind of confusing, yeah,
because he was now like two people have seen this
impending doom that's coming.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
But yeah, but the guy that the guy that saw him,
that was up in space with him was doctor Jones
as the thing and then he gets sucked into the
hole and dies. Oh okay, so the only person that
still saw Galactus the whole time with the visions has
always been read so because then he went to go
see his gal and then right when he was like
gonna knock on the door, his body starts turning back

(23:21):
into the thing. So he's not Ben Grimm anything.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Never mind Sally his first lady's name is Sally Sally
because of course, and then we end with Franklin being
born Franklin Richards baby.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah exactly. So sometimes I had The one cool thing
that that they did was that each issue was narrated
by one of the it was. It took me a
little bit of a couple of times and forgot who
was narrating the story like that the thought bubbles that
were coming through, because I think the first one was read,
then it was I think Johnny or Ben, and then

(23:58):
it went to the one where it was like, who's
this one, Oh, it's Franklin, And then it goes to
the end again where it's Red where it's just like
you have to try to figure out who's doing the
who's the omniscient character telling the story sort of who's
you know, letting everyone know what's happening.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Here for sure? So an issue too, we jumped to
the nineteen seventies. It's groovy, y'all. Reid has finally like
been able to enlist the help of Howard Stark and
Hank him and Victor von Doom to try to help
him with the galactis problem, but only Doom and Reid
end up working on it really and meanwhile while they're

(24:36):
trying to figure something out, the Mad Thinker attacks them,
which he's like one of their big bads here throughout
the run. He's kind of one of their main foes.
It's very interesting. He attacks them, but it's like unsuccessful
and they're able to I think, capture him.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, they capture him and it ends up being an android
and they use his head. His head is there the
whole time because they use the same thing where it's
just like, hey, you got four of us, and you've
got the cloud there so you could see Sue when
she's invisible, but you don't see her, do you? And
then he falls for it and realizes because Sue wasn't there.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Yeah, so Sue. Because Sue is like very sidelined in
the seventies. It's not great. But there comes a point
where she is I think in California or something and
she's protesting and being part of the movements and she
meets nay More and they're like, oh hello, and then
they part ways and you're like, oh, yeah, oh, this

(25:32):
isn't gonna be good. So Reid and Victor begin to
work together a lot more, and Read sees Victor as
his lab assistant, and together they sort of bring this
meeting of heroes and it's like Black Panther and Ironman
and all of these other heroes and Sue is at
home with Franklin and she's like, excuse me, why am

(25:53):
I not part of the meeting of heroes And Red's like, uh, oh,
my bad, Like yeah, you can totally come, and she's like,
oh g thanks, yeah, And so we get a little
narrative about you know, the feminine, the feminine movement and
don't say invisible forever is what Sue is told by somebody.
And so they're all trying to talk to the UN

(26:14):
and Sue's been put at the forefront here. But in
the meantime, Doom is starting to become a little crazy,
and he starts to turn on Reid and we see
him building and don his full armor and green cape
for the first time, and he's like, you know what,
You're not good enough to do this. I'm the only
one smart enough to do this. And he attacks everybody

(26:36):
at the UN and only Sue can seem to save
everybody because obviously she's a badass.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, because they do this, he uses that same ploy
again where it's like you don't see Sue and von
Doom is like her doctor. Doom's like, you can't fool
me on that one. You already told me the story
about the mad Thinker, and then she comes out of
nowhere and just like whackly, she takes him down and
they have him, you know, locked up, and so he's

(27:03):
pretty much sidelined too for a bit.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
For a little while, and Sue is pissed at Read
because she's like, how could you not see what was
going to happen here? You've put everybody at danger And
she actually leaves him and she takes Franklin and.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
She moves in with Yeah, they check up. I saw that.
I'm like, excuse me.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
They were like, hey, we're taking and damn yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And then Reid goes to live with Johnny and Ben
or Ben, and it was just like they show him
at the bar that Ben hangs out at to like
drown his sorrows, and he finally he's still He's Reid
has to have a lot of He reminds me in
a lot of ways, is a little bit more socially functioning.

(27:49):
Sheldon from Big Bang Theory's completely oblivious to so many
things because he's so smart and working on that so
hard that he his social mechanisms are not fully working
the way they should be.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I will say, like in the early Fantastic Four movies,
The two thousands, ones Ian Griffada. He does a good
job of like portraying that aspect of read where he's
just like, so he's so blinded by his work and
finding the solution. It's a common science thing, right, Like
everything else just falls away, and then when things at

(28:24):
the fan, he's like, what, Yeah, like we told you
to pay attention.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I'm totally blindsided by this.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
He's not blindsided by a message he gets from the
Arecibo Observatory that quote, something big is heading towards Earth,
but we won't know what that is till we get
to the nineties, and you can't get to the nineties
until you go through the eighties. Baby.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I thought that was cool though, because the guy, Yeah,
it was SETI, which is the search for extraterrestrial intelligence,
which has been a a I don't know if it's
government funded or government adjacently funded. You know, there's those
big radio satellites that sit there and listen for stuff
that's going on out there.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
So yep, So you know, if you were around in
the eighties, the Cold War was kind of a big
thing that happen, and they kind of go through this
little history bit about that all of the you know,
Soviet versus everybody else kind of stuff. So you get
the tone and tenor of what we're dealing with. What
did I write here? I have no earthly idea with Oh,

(29:30):
Sue love Reid and Read is very sad. Wow, that's
where I could I was like, what is that? He's like,
so he just focuses completely on trying to defend Earth
from Galactus, but he can't because Franklin has become a
problem child. He's like in jail, in and out of it,
getting in trouble, and he's started having visions because Franklin's

(29:52):
power that he was born with was a psionic power. Yes,
so Read gets served dif papers damn and he's like,
well darned.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
By Johnny, which, by the way they were showing him,
they were showing him having a cool time and everything,
where it was just like one of the little things
that was that it's really cool storytelling, is that he
was at some college frat thing going on and they're like,
oh my god, Johnny Storm like absorbed the whole bonfire. Yeah,

(30:25):
like okay, we know he could do this now, ye Johnny.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yes. Very important to note for later on, so you know,
Rita is still working on the Galactus threat thing. The
true Mad Thinker breaks Doom out of prison and he's like,
let me follow you, let me help you. And it's
funny because really the Mad Thinker bought is the template
for Doom's future plans. We kind of give it breadcrumbs

(30:52):
about that. And they're talking about how the Fantastic Four
is broken up and nobody's really talking to each other,
and they're referred to as the Fleetwood mac of pree
hero teams, which I thought was really.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Funny dysfunctional of the especially because I just saw recently
too that like Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham are teasing
that they're gonna get back. It's like they fired. Oh
my god. It's just like, no one cares a crap anymore.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I would. I'm here for the drama of it all.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
So there's a situation where somebody is nuking New York
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Oh so, what happened here is that the bad Thinker
is in charge of a Linux or it's a company
that he basically has control of the software for the
nuclear codes, and they think that Russia thinks that US
is gonna did they're they're firing their nukes, and US

(31:47):
and Russia thinks basically.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
It's like a bay of pigs, especially.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Because they decided to doom, decided that it would be
easier to just blow up the world, have everyone going
their bunkers and then come back by the time Glass
gets here, and he'll be like, well I don't want
this planet anymore. Yeah, So they basically force each other
to shoot their missiles at each other.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, And Sue's like, you know, nay more, I have
to go back. I have to help at my core.
I am a hero. And he refuses. He's like, no,
we should just leave, and she's like, leave and go
where He's like under the water, And I'm like, how
is she going to live under the water with you?
Nay more? But she's like, no, absolutely not. And because
of this, I'm leaving you you're the worst, which you know, accurate, yes,

(32:32):
And so she joins the Fray and New York and
really Johnny has a iron making a love of Ironman
references and Iron Man in the Avengers moment where he
takes the nuke and absorbs it like he did with
the Bonfire and it looks like maybe he's going to
live and he's just blinded, but he actually ends up
dying and he is ded dead.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Well. The thing about that too, is that he goes
to the ones that he saves Russia, like he goes
to Russia like he's over Russian skies. And so because
the other guys like they all stopped the American ones,
that's fine, and then the ones that were just about
to blow up over Moscow. I would assume he literally

(33:12):
absorbs all the fire and stuff and all the radiation
ends up killing him, which then ends up pretty much
kicking man Thinker and Doom right in the kahone's because
they do a ceasefire and get rid of all their
nukes because they're just like, it's not worth it. We're
friends again, Yeah, and because they show that, you know,
this is what happens when there's so much miscommunication, but

(33:33):
then an American ends up saving the.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Russians dramas a real low note with Johnny being buried.
And then we moved to the nineteen nineties. It was
the nineties, been do work like a dock worker. It's
like this is great, I feel.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Like normal here. It's like the whole grunge thing with
the beanies and the planels and.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
The dogs workers wore like, you know, safety pins and
their jean jackets. But whatever, right, they threw throw out
some of the nineties stuff that was big topics, like
going digital and Wakanda was able to create a cure
for AIDS, which of course was you know, a huge,
a huge issue back then, and it was really it

(34:24):
was really traumatic and sad. And so there's they try
to touch on all of the touch points that were
happening in these decades and we've fast forwarded you'd think
a lot, but really it's been three decades. Franklin's getting married.
Two Who did we decide he was?

Speaker 2 (34:38):
It was it was a Condon woman who is friends.
I mean, she's not a royalty, but she calls you know,
T'Challa uncle because it's just a a honorific that they do. Yeah,
but it's not like because at first we're like, well,
that would mean that she Franklin's marrying Shury. Then it's

(34:58):
like no, because Surry actually shows up a couple of
times as Black Panther later on, or is yeah, because
it was when they were having to fight scene with
like Carol and Miles and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
So so at Franklin's Wedding read and so kind of reconcile.
They're not like fully back together, but it's like, oh,
our son is getting married, and the object in the
sky that was a predicted last decade is starting to
approach a little faster. And meantime Ben meets Alicia Masters

(35:29):
on a blind date. Yes, and it's ha ha because
Alicia's blind and I was like, oh, well, okay, then
somehow they have children. It's fine. At Franklin's Wedding Read
feels Galactus approaching like he has.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Some kind of he feels that for he feels.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
The cosmic force is what it really is, because it
actually ends up being the Silver Surfer, and he's like,
I am here to Harold Galactus's arrival. You've got ten
years start the clock.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
But even then, he gives them the he gives them
the option to be like that's in the next is
it in the Okay?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, okay, the nineties went fast, I will say, yeah,
not as much happened.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Then they do a little white que thing at the end,
and then.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, that was it, and then everybody has these uh
Galactus doomsday clocks in the early aughts, the two thousands.
You guys, we have like a real short nine to
eleven reference. And I was like, okay, then that's when
Surfer reappears to quote help them, but we he's not
really helping them, like Brian said, he's offering to exchange

(36:37):
places with them. He tells them about what happened to
his planet and why he is Galactus's Harold and that
he agreed to be psychically bound to him and be
infused with the cosmic force to save his planet.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Right, And he's offering that to read because Reid has
that connection like they feel because of the thing that
happened back in the sixties where he saw Glactus in
the first place. So and because Silver Surfer, Silver Surfer,
Silver Surfer is like, I'm dying. I've been doing this
for millennia. Oh I have to I have to, you know,

(37:15):
do this. I have to retire. Someone needs to be
his herald. And he pretty much said I think I
don't know if at first he just like rejects it,
but he's like, you've got some time still, because they
know a date to the minute when Galactus is going
to show up.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yep, so they kind of part ways. Franklin goes to
Wakanda and o'chalie gives him this headband tool to better
channel his powers, and it's very dorky looking. I'm not
gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
It's like a suitor. It's like almost like a Charles
Xavier type thing, but like a combined at with Scott
Yeah Summers is like cyclops thing, but it's like it
almost always looks like a tiara too.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It does, it's just it's straight up squirrel so Yang
early two thousands comics were different, but that's a tool
he needs, and so Wakanda gives it to him. So
then the Silver Surfer goes to doctor Doom to offer
him essentially the same deal he's offering to Read. He's like, hey,
you're powerful and magic, ye you could also be Galactus's Harold,

(38:18):
and Doom is straight up like absolutely not no, which
is really funny.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
He's like trying to convince him that, like because okay,
because originally what had happened was is the first time
Silver Surfer showed up. They have all these plans in
place for the defense of Earth, and Silver Surfer just
knocks every single one of them out, like almost instantly,
so they're like, yeah, it's not gonna work. You can't
do that. So then they have to sort of go like,

(38:45):
we're not going to be in defense anymore. We're sort
of having to I think at the point everyone just
is like the whole planet goes like, Okay, well we're dead.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Even the Fantastic Four because Read and Sew are like, well,
we should just get back together officially, because you know
we're gonna die. They everybody's kind of I mean, it's
very fatalistic, right, everybody's just like preparing for their death.
And Galactus Stay does arrive.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Right, but even before that, Reid is doing this thing
where he's going into that pseudo state that he was
in back in the sixties, and they're not like if
he went in at the one time and with the
power surgeons were almost like making him a vegetable soue
came in. He's like, you can't do this by yourself,
and he's like, I need to make sure. He's still

(39:32):
working to try to find a way, but he's not
getting it out there being like, you know, it's a
domat thing. Yeah, so but he he has stuff that
is you know, it could work, but it's not going
to be like, we're not putting all our eggs in
this basket, because it has to do with like he
comes close to like redlining in his brain to make him,

(39:54):
you know, just completely like pop.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
So, but Galactus does arrive and seemingly agrees to be
his new herald. He's like, Hey, I've got to save
you guys somehow. This is how I know you can
do it. And he he goes off, and you're like,
oh my gosh, it's gonna happen. But it's all just
a plan to use Franklin and use his powers that
are now channeled appropriately to basically just overwhelm Galactus and

(40:19):
he what ends up really happening to him.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
It's him and he's doing it, and frank Reid is
like powering him, and he's just pulling all this stuff
to overload because Glactus is like, oh, it's not you,
but he feels like he doesn't feel or Franklin approaching
because he's sort of just like he has the same
energy as Reid does. And I don't know if Reid

(40:42):
was on the ground or in the capsule because Glaus
up in space. Yeah, and they basically overpower him and
they don't say exactly what happens. They basically knocks him out.
Oh yeah, Ben dubs In does the clabor and he's
like claborating time in space. But what we were dispensing
with Reed, he is just cat.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Comes a vegetable. Yeah, not comatose, but basically right there.
So Earth is saved.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
We are moving into the twenty tens and the final
issue number six, and it's kind of now this vacuum
of power with the fall of Reed, Richard's and somewhat
the Fantastic Four. We have the Rise of Doom, dominance,
the Baxter Buildings up for sale, like it's a whole thing,
and all these years later, been finally reconciles with Red,

(41:29):
even though Reid can't respond to him. He's like, hey,
I'm not mad at you anymore. And you know, thanks
to you, I've gotten to do all these things and
now I have Alicia and so it's great, which is nice,
but it's also like, well, he can't respond to you.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Oh when Sally comes to visit him too, Oh she does. Yeah,
it's like she has three d He's like, why did
you like? It's like you He's like, you wouldn't have
been able to love me the way that I thought
you could. And she's like, well, why didn't you at
least give us a try type thing, and pens basically
like son of them. Oh wow, okay, well we got whatever.

(42:04):
It worked out.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
You know, he's got his girl and he's happy with
his life. And so, actually everybody is old by now.
Sue is old. Read is old. Everybody's look like they
should be.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
You saw a couple of scenes where Reid was old,
then all of a sudden he like molded his face.
I'm not like it's too old, but he's still got the.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Little But Doom is he's built all of these doom
bots with the Mad Thinker, and so he activates those
and they start to do their big attack thing, and
the Avengers exist now, so they defeat them, and this
greatly offends doctor Doom. He's like, oh, how could you
defeat my doom bots? And they're like it wasn't that hard.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Actually, you know you guys.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, Sue plays on his ego to kind of like
draw him out and make him angry. She's like, you
really aren't even that good of a scientist. You were
Read's lab assistance. And he's like I wasn't his assistant,
Like it's very funny.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I can see him having a temper transfer. He like
starts like stopping his feet and he's like, fine, you
want to see how smart I am.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Boom dumbot everywhere everywhere toombos and they really need Read.
One good thing that Reid built himself an extra head
a few years ago, and it's being kept in a file.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Con Yeah, so back in when when the Mad Thinker
was working with or when Doom was working with Red,
they had the Mad Thinkers android bad Head, which made
the doombots, but they also made one for Reed. And
then all of a sudden they activate Read because Mad
Thinker in the original code for the original head put

(43:41):
a self destruct code in it, which Reid would have
if he has the original head. Because now like, oh,
because Mad Thinker, Doom killed what he thought Mad Thinker,
but it was actually another android and so now the
real old like Mad Thinker is trying to get Read,
who's in a wheelchair catatonic, he's a vegetable to give

(44:05):
him this code, and so then they think to activate this.
So there's a bunch of talking android heads now, yeah,
so he is channeling his no, what do you say?
He right before he went up to get Galactis, he
put every information he thought of having that he could
think of into this head and then just put it
like away.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's his brain, his safety brain and math and gravit.
It's his huge hard drive.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
And it's a head and he freaks out when he
gets activated too. He's like, I'm alive.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Wait, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Oh my god?

Speaker 1 (44:38):
He says, You're like, no, we just need one thing.
So yeah, because mad Thinger at this point has like
left Doom and he's like, we have to stop him.
I can only do it with you. Even Cap comes
from the Stark Retirement home from Heroes to help with
the fight. But everybody works together and they defeat doctor
Doom and his doom Bots, and now everyone's just old

(44:58):
and y.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
This way they went to talk to the way did
Sue go to talk to Steve or because they were
trying to recruit him and he's like, I can't do anything,
and him actually coming, He got one last time, put
the suit on, got the shield, and he was the
one that like knocked Doom off. Is like he knocked
him away and they got him all like frazzled and stuff,
and the next thing you know, they're going ready to fight.

(45:20):
And then it was like the Battle and the Booze
scene with the Battle droids where all of a sudden
they hit the code and they all just went shut
down all across the world. And then I think they
got doom again, like they rested him again, and yeah,
and then it was pretty much just like here we
are they still. There's a bunch of times too where

(45:42):
you see there's panels of them getting together randomly in
front of Johnny's headstone.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
It's interesting that they never brought him back.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
No, I mean once he died and I mean he
did his hero a moment most like No, I mean
in one if this would have been like a long run,
but since it was six issues, it was sort of
just like he did.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
They never bring him back like in the comics. Comics.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Oh yeah, but I think this was sort of just
like this was just this was this was a hiss,
like a a clip notes history of it. But it's
just like here's one iteration. Because they've rebooted themselves. Someone
always heard someone talking about that they can't get into
DC as much because they've rebooted their comics so many times.
I'm like, Marvel does the same thing. Every years they

(46:30):
have an event. And then because they were talking about
the Infinite the Crisis on Infinite Arts thing, I'm like,
Marvel had Secret.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
War War and Secret Wars.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
It's just like it resets because when you kill me.
The one thing we on Touch of Base a little
bit was when they had the Avengers come in and
it was like in more recent time, the equipping between
Carol and Miles Morales and just a lot of stuff
and he was like high five and he's like, I
don't think I can high five you because my hand

(47:01):
is broken. Yeah, and just Carol being like it was
almost like the legless Gimli scene where they were counting
how many of the Doubts they've killed, and Miles like,
I haven't killed any yet because I'm just Spider Man
and Captain Marvel, you're super Opie. She's like, I got five.
And so it was. It was had a lot of Again,

(47:21):
there was a lot of levity in it where it
wasn't all serious, but there was also like at this point,
once Galactus was defeated at the end of the you know,
the fifth issue, it's like how are they going to
finish this off and then boom. Well that's right, Doom.
So I don't think we're gonna have anything with Doom
at all.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
In I think I'm going to be a post credit.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Post credits scene with RDJ or something like that. So
at least set that up.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I keep forgetting sometimes that that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, well, think about we only have the only movie
that is coming out I think between Fantastic Four and
Secret Wars is spider Man. Right, So I mean we've
got we've got Vision Quest, and we've got some of
the TV shows, but they're not for what figs saying
is that? Also? I saw fi today that said like

(48:13):
after the next two Avengers movies, they're sort of gonna
bring Tony Stark back and bring recast them and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
So interesting.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah, it's just like it's a hard that could be
a hard reboot, but it's also like, well are you
going to reboot it? But you bring it? I mean,
I wouldn't be surprised if they brought Chris Chris Evans
back for Secret Wars as some other character, whether it
be you know, Soldier Supreme or someone. But having Hardy
j completely being a different universes. Victor van Doom is
gonna like mess with so many people's heads. Oh my god. Yes, nope,

(48:47):
I'm the opposite of that. You're Tony Stark.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting to
see what they do. Yes, so yeah, we'll get there.
But there's your fantastic form primer sixty years in a nutshell,
don't you love it?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah? It was very volume, voluminous, that's what I was.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Just luminous.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, yeah, a lot of stuff involved, but at the end,
I think we got a pretty good recap of what
happened with it.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So yeah, so I just you know, interested to see
which parts actually are going to be done, because they
could go a lot of different directions with this movie.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
Yeah, because I think it's going to be more of
like a nutshell type thing.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Where is that want to cause them to enter six
one six? That's the real well.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
And the thing too, is that Kevin Fagi is saying,
He's like, you guys, don't be so you know, or
don't be so sure that that ship that you see
at the end of the Thunderbolts coming in is this
Fantastic four Because they're saying different different markings, different things,
this and that. So it's like, oh my god, here
we go. What could it be if they showed the

(49:59):
one from the Underbolt and it's actually like Jessica Alba
and Johnny Storm again. That's how Chris Evans comes back.
You know, we saw him in Dead Bull and Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
It's just like, at all, I don't need it.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I mean, you know they're not going to do the
Trenk version.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
With Yeah, would be kind of funny if they did.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Right, because then you would see Michael B. Jordan come
in and imagine him if you can. How you know,
kill Monger come together. It's just like, oh.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
My god, well kill Monger's dead, so.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
It don't matter. It could be no one's death matters anymore.
It's like, here, just put up this dirtboard and throw
it at the wall and see what sticks to the storyline.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
So that's so funny.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Anyway, So okay, yeah, that we got that coming. Wow,
that's going to be a week now already seen it. Yeah,
so that's what we were talking about. Yeah, next couple
of weeks where I think I don't have to take
a look quick at our It might take me a
bit because now we have to scroll down all the
way two hundred episodes in a Google sheet. Because I
think mostly what we're doing a bunch of review reviewing

(51:10):
comparisons for the next three weeks for Fantastic Four and
then Superman and then Ironheart. Probably we might put a
little bit of Daredevil because we haven't ever did a
review in comparison on that.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Then like there's Peacemaker coming out eyes An, we'll see
there's some different stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I'm just like the one I'm Psyched for Peace. I
loved season one of that. I love John Cena and
that we've talked about that, so we'll see what's what's
going on. And yes, we got that coming up, but
in the meaning we need.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
To do a Sacred Jedi text for Fatal Alliances. Probably
not too long after that, no, and.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Then also before it gets to like a recap of
just everything for Republic, because that's finished up and I'm
almost about halfway done with the last book. It's just
more of a matter of again being able to I
listen to it when I'm on my when I'm working
with my headphones. They're like the earbuds. But it's been

(52:08):
so hot I can't wear the earbuds because I sweat
so much they fall out, So I have to just
listen to my I don't want to listen to it
over a speaker because it's kind of weird. If I'm
listening to my Jimmy Buffett music when I pull up
to a house, they're like cool. But if also they
start hearing them talking about like Jedi and stuff us talk. Yeah,
so here Marcion Roe getting all crazy because he's like,

(52:28):
did you know that hole of dement or not? Dementia?
Hysteria and insanity's going deep down to that. But yeah,
so that's where we got going. And in the meantime,
if people want to get a hold of us, how
could he do that?

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And then check out all the network shows at Strandedpanda
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Speaker 2 (53:04):
Yeah, and also speaking of shows, we got our sparks
podcast Buddies, which are a bunch of podcasts that we
think you would like because we like them and they
sort of fit in the same millieu as we do here.
I don't think I've ever used the word miliu. I
don't even if use that word right, But anyways, the
names that the links will be in our show notes,
but they are across the Pie Frost and Mighty four

(53:24):
Dan and I and You Have Questions Commute the podcast
Segabits Our Tails from the Cantina. Rubber Force Radio presents
The bab U Freaks. Jack Kirby Again, that's another show
that's speaking of Jack Kirby. For this week. They delve
deep into Jack Kirby's stuff from whatever they do and
they're really good. They know a lot about him, So yeah,

(53:46):
so weird, so fun. And the Star Wars Wyo Universe,
which is hosted by our very own James Hewings and
it's just basically how you have Star Wars in your
day to day life. And we really did miss him
on our two hundred at that so last he definitely
had some fomo when we were talking and responding to stuff,
and he was just like when he was talking about

(54:07):
what he just responded, you're never more than seventy three
miles away from a beach or from a shore in England,
And I'm going, how did he always listen to the episode?
Or right we're talking about how you know there's beaches.
It's an island, so there's always you know, water somewhere.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
So well, we'll have them both back on soon.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yes, exactly, so all right, anything else before we wrap
up here? No, okay, so until next week. Remember two things,
be exited to each other and never judge a book
by its movie.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Love you three hundred Thank you for listening to Source
Pages a reading collective, A proud member of the Stranded
Pandam network. If you would like to contact us, you
can email Spark podcast at gmail dot com that's Spark
with a C, or follow us on Twitter at source
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(55:02):
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slash groups slash sp chat, and remember, let readings spark
your imagination.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Hello that I have no idea what to say. I'm
trying to think of something that's like, uh, welcome back,
my fellow, Like fantast.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Welcome back, my fellow.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Well, I was gonna say ogas, welcome back to our
first episode source pages.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's what's how we're gonna do it. From now on.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
We're just gonna keep doing numbers and it's about it. Okay,
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